Lombardi's pre-draft comments

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Because of the interview-request demand, the Kings chose to have Lombardi do a conference-call interview rather than individual talks, so some of my more specific questions will have to wait, but I will pin him down sometime next week before the free-agency period begins.

I'll provide the transcript of the interview below, but a couple things... First, Lombardi joked that his staff was inside the hotel suite arguing when he stepped away to take the call. He sounded like he was half-joking, and I wouldn't be surprised it there's still some heavy debate about what to do with the pick. The Kings certainly aren't tipping their hand and it will be real interesting to see what they do.

Second, Nick Nickson was on the call, and it was good to hear him up and well. For those who are attending the draft party on Friday, I'm told Nick is scheduled to be there, so it will be good to see him.

OK, here's the transcript. I'm scooping myself here, since my story won't be in the paper until Friday, but hopefully you'll still read it then!

(Looking to keep the pick or shopping it around?)
In these situations, you have to do everything. If you're not shopping it, you're not doing your job. Right now you're looking at everything: moving it, moving down, and then you make a decision. I think the best answer I can give you is that I'm not close to anything right now. But in terms of doing it, yeah, you'll do it right up until you make your pick.

(Is there a lot of trade talk out there?)
Actually, it's still a little early, as crazy as that sounds. Guys are just getting in. Remember, we're not the NFL, where we've all got to get into the city. We traveled all day yesterday. Some GMs went to the league meetings so they're just getting in today. I guess tomorrow there will be a little more (talk) but logistically it's been a little slow. A lot of guys are traveling and just getting in. A couple guys I talked to tonight were in the hotel lobby and had just flown in.

(Can you talk about Alzner and Ellerby, and whether either one would be ready to jump into the league next year?)
I wouldn't disagree with the sentiment out there that Alzner is probably more of a finished product. With Ellbery you're looking at a little more in terms of upside. Alzner is pretty well defined. He's a good player. He has played ahead of the curve because he's gone through four years of juniors already. He played in the World Juniors so he's a more mature player and that's the way his game is. His game is also more mature. Ellerby is still growing and still defining himself. In the end, people might see Ellerby as having more upside but Alzner is a guy who, you know what you're getting. And that doesn't often happen with 18-year-olds.

(Can you compare this draft class to recent years?)
It's funny. You always hear, `Well, it's not a great draft,' but I think it's, for the most part, a normal draft. I've said it before. The (2003) draft that Getzlaf and Perry and Michalek and (Dustin Brown)... you look at that draft and that was a really good draft. Most people knew going into it that there were a lot of players in that draft. So when you look at Brownie's draft year, that was a pretty strong class, and I think most hockey people figured that was a really strong draft. The thing about it is though, that was an aberration. It's not that that year is a good draft and the next year is a down draft. Most drafts are like this one, and then you have a special draft like that one. It's like any other year. When you're dealing with 18-year-olds, in most cases you don't know. I guess the difference with this one is that you don't have, at this point, a high-end Ovechkin or Kovalchuk or Crosby, these type of guys where maybe there's two or three guys that are wow, you know they're going to be stars. But after that, it's pretty much the same. The draft shotguns and it's the same as every other draft. When you're in a normal draft, the shotgun maybe develops sooner, meaning that the guy who is 20th on our list might be fifth on another guy's list. That's not unusual when you're dealing with 18-year-olds. It will probably shotgun sooner this year, or the line is not as clear this year because you don't have a Crosby or one of those top guys. But as far as the term `good draft,' those drafts like Brownie's draft... if you go back, everybody was excited at the depth of that draft. That's a special draft, that's not a normal draft. I wouldn't say we're in that type of draft year. It's high end. Maybe it shotguns a little sooner but I don't look at it as a huge difference.

(After the change in the scouting staff, have you had extensive meetings in L.A.?)
Oh yeah. It's been a real grind. The one thing they've shown is that they've gone around the clock and hung in there. I grind pretty good. We knew we were going to have to do this and I think in the last month, they've really stepped up. The biggest thing is that you're starting to see, actually quite quickly, guys... if they work together and like to work, they're going to come together sooner and develop trust. And that's the one thing I've said. If you go to any organization, it takes time to build that staff, and those staffs have to get a feel for each other. That feel comes from trusting each other, in terms of their work ethic and their evaluation. We're in the process of that right now. That's not going to come together in one year. But the one thing I know is that I think they've accelerated it much quicker than I expected, but it still has a ways to go. We will be so much better next year at this time than we are this year. That doesn't mean we're not going to do a good job, but where I want it, and the way I expect things to be done, I know they're going to get there quicker than I had anticipated. Their work ethic has been second to none. But again, when you have people that like hockey, it's not work. I've always said that, and that's the kind of people you want to be around.

(Do either Ellerby or Alzner, or both, play a similar style to Jack Johnson?)
No, I would say they're different players from Jack. Again, you're dealing with 18-year-olds so it wouldn't be fair to pigeonhole Ellerby or Alzner just yet. But if you're looking at both of them in their draft year, I think it would be fair to say that Jack is more of a risk-taker. I don't mean risk-taker in a bad way. I guess he just creates more offense and is dynamic at times in terms of jumping into the play and creating offense. I'd say they're probably different types of players at this point. Can the other kids add that to their game? Well, time will tell, but those dimensions really haven't been part of their game up to this point.

(There seems to be a defined top three and then some debate about who might go after the third pick. Do you guys see it the same as the conventional wisdom out there?)
The thing with conventional wisdom is that I'd like to see those lists two years after the draft. I guess overall you're probably accurate, but I think there might be more of a shotgun this year than in other years, even within your layers. Like you're drawing a line at three (top players), then you're drawing a line at 11, I think those layers would be different. So I guess this is trying to answer the question without answering it. I'd say overall, the conventional-wisdom thing is probably the way most people see it, but again, I've never really been one for that.

(Last year is when you made the big Demitra deal. You were focused on getting some depth then. Are you at a different place in the building process now, to where you don't need to do that again?)
Right now, I don't see that type of deal. You never say never, but you look at our list and I don't know if we have that type of player to deal, even if we wanted to. You asked me at the beginning about the idea of trading for a young player, and you could do that, or the idea of trading up or trading down. That is definitely being discussed here and will be discussed right up until the bell. As far as that type of (Demitra) deal, I haven't seen anything like that yet. Things can change, but a Demitra-type deal hasn't crossed my desk yet.

(Is that something you feel is not as necessary for you this year?)
No, I don't. You never say never, but I don't really want to do that at this point. We've put some young players in the organization and we're going to add, hopefully, another good couple players in this draft here. We're loaded with picks next year. I don't know if I want to strip any more out, in terms of the veterans. But you never know. Somebody could knock your socks off. As far as the overall scheme, you've got a plan but you've got to be willing to adjust it at times. It would take a major proposal from somebody to make us adjust it to that breadth. So to answer your question, I guess I don't see a Demitra-type deal there. But call me tomorrow and you never know.

(Do you pick based on position or take the best player available?)
It's the best player available. The rub comes when there are two players who are really close. If they're close, then you look to position. In theory, it should work easy, but at times it can be really close. You have to make sure they're close (in ability). That's where a lot of the arguments can happen.

(What do you think about Cherepanov and the possibility of getting him to come to the NHL?)
I don't think anyone questions his ability. When he wants to bring it, he's a pretty good player. As far as the other things, you just don't know. Obviously the Russian landscape has changed, not only in terms of their ability to get them over here but with the money the Russians can pay. You have to make sure he wants to be a NHL player and doesn't turn into the Morozov category, where he's a young guy in the prime of his career who turns down $3 million and goes home.

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Fletch said:

Rich, once again.....you are a lifesaver. Great work!

GMatsuda said:

Rich...as I was listening in on the conference call, i couldn't help thinking that Lombardi, as you would expect, is really keeping things close to the vest. I laughed to myself when he told you that he was trying not to answer your question while answering it. :-) It does sound like the Kings are leaning towards selecting Karl Alzner, but as Lombardi said this evening, anything is possible...

Fletch said:

I agree (about them leaning toward Alzner). I wouldn't mind seeing them swap the #4 pick and a 2nd for Edmonton's #6 and #15. Edmonton could select Voracek with their pick and we could give Washington a draft pick to ensure they don't select Alzner with the #5 pick. Then with #6 we could select Alzner and with #15 we could take a guy like Brandon Sutter.

Joey said:

Great report. Did Lombardi discuss whether this would be the year the Kings would spend near the cap or are we in for another year of Thorntons', Willsie's McCauleys' and etc.

CBGB said:

Rich,

Thanks again for... you know what? You're awesome. You have REALLY made Kings hockey fun again! Thanks for all of your hard work.

Rich Hammond said:

As always, thanks to everyone for the support. Hope to see some of you at the draft party tomorrow.

Gann...I would have to agree about leaning toward Alzner. I think, as Dean alluded to, there are a number of players who could go in that spot, so I think the Kings will lean toward a defenseman.

Joey...Lombardi has said he wants to add two ``builders,'' meaning two top-level players, to the team this summer. He will not spend money just for the sake of having a $48-million payroll. He's particular about what he wants, and if it's there, he will go for it.

Aaron said:

Judging by the comments on Cherepanov he doesn't sounds particularly convinced with him. The Kings are definitely looking at ying and yang here with Cherepanov and Alzner if it comes down to these two.

You have one guy that Lombardi says can be a dynamic player when he wants to bring it and another who sounds like he won't be anything spectacular but as safe a pick as could be expected from an 18 year old.

Robby said:

Hey Rich, great job again. As a die-hard Kings fan for the past 20 years in Vancouver, this is the best coverage I have seen for the Kings. Keep up the good work and I look forward to reading your columns.

Randy said:

Hey, I have to say this is the first time i read one of your interviews and as a canadian kings fan, i have to say it was great, good job

Hal said:

Great Report. Being here in Manchester home of the Manchester Monarchs , the Kings top development team in the AHL, its very interesting to hear Lombardi's thoughts as to the present and future direction of the Kings. He has a plan and is sticking to it, and has brought some top prospects into the organization with more to follow. The Kings will only get better going forward under his direction.Now if he can only find the right goalie tandem......

Daniel Decker said:

Rich,

Thanks for your hard work and commitment to keeping us informed.

I think the Kings will keep the pick, and I hope they take the gamble with Cherepanov.

Chris R. said:

What a fantastic thread. I really feel good with Lombardi running the Kings. He seems to be a very astute hockey mind.

Rich, this is by far the best coverage of the Kings I've ever seen. You really allow the fans to be apart of the conversation. Thank you so much.

fulton said:

Excellent as always Rich...

I'm hoping the Kings can trade and get a later pick in the 1st - still allowing them to take Alzner - along with an additional pick in the 08 draft.

I'm with everyone in hoping that Dean and Co. have an off-season goaltender strategy and are not ruling-out bringing in a legit #1, as this team has the potential to claw its way into the playoffs next season, but not with a Cloutier-Labarbera tandem (in my opinion).

John said:

Rich... THANKYOU and THANKYOU!! I'ts always a pleasure to read your articles and fantastic that you can keep us fans up to date!! Million Thanks.

If you had to take a gamble on one free agent you reckon we will get.. Where would you put your $, and how come no talk of Ryan Smyth as a possiblity?

Mike said:

As always, great and much appreciated coverage. I hope the Kings stay away from importing a goaltender. Spend the money on scoring and leadership from forward corps. LaBarbera is ready and Bernier is a real future star. God willing we will see a Drury or a Briere in King's uniform. Also, I hope they stay away from Cherepanov. He is definitely the real deal, but why gamble with this high a pick? There's ample talent at D and forward positions even though not Crosby level players.

Goon Squad said:

I'll go with the longshot - Akim Aliu. How can you beat a Nigerian born, Ukrainian/Canadian raised kid with Sean Avery's attitude.

Ludwig said:

The only numbers that are most likely to be worn by Aliu would usually come before wearing an orange jumpsuit...

mikee said:

Excellent job Rich. That fact that the Quacks won the cup has been haunting me nonstop.I think this hurts more than marty's curved stick. I'm putting my faith
on this front office to bring us more cups than the quacks. Kings fans are tired of
all the down years we have endured. I'd
sell my soul to the Devil just too hear Bob
Miller scream from he top of his lungs the Kings are stanley cups champs!!! Rich, I LOVE this team. GO KINGS GO!!!!!

Mike T said:

Rich, Mr Hickey was a shock atleast to me. But i can deal with it because of Dean's past track record and success. Here's to hoping Mr hickey's talent that our D will be good enough. Now for the July 1 date , will we be REALLY looking at say a Gomez or breier or are we going to settle for middle of the road AGAIN ?

guillermo said:

Gosh.......what's going on with Lombardi?all these other teams are signing all the big fish? what is he waiting for?LA needs some big name signings, great players to come help Kopitar,Frolov Camalleri.
!!GO KINGS GO!! from edmonton

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Rich Hammond has covered the Kings, on a full-time or part-time basis, since the 2000-01 season. He was the beat writer for the entire John Torchetti era and has witnessed Bob Miller singing country music in a Nashville honky-tonk bar. A native of Los Angeles, Rich has worked at the Daily News since 1999 and also serves as the paper's deputy sports editor. E-mail Rich at rich.hammond@dailynews.com.

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