Kings lose 6-3

No, Aubin will get the start, can't pin this loss on him. Sure would like to see LaBarbara and Frolov get back though.

Quick made all his saves tonight. Can't blame him for giving up a 5 on 3 when Martin Havlet is allowed to walk right up to the doorstep and then the fluke goal toews scored.

At this point, I couldn't care less who starts. We just simply suck! I don't know if I would blame MC for the lack of team's performance or DL for putting together such a soft team. In either case, I've pretty much had it with not just the losses but the physical beating we take so often. I say bring up Westgarth, Bagnall and Simmonds (if able). Let these guys inject some toughness to this lackluster team. Heck, if we're going to lose the games, let's at least go down fighting and win a fight now and then.

start QUICK.

scratch IVANANS - why is he playing if he can't fight? He's useless out there.

is NAGY ready to go?

O'SULLIVAN should be top 6.

AND STOP TINKERING WITH THE ****ing LINES!

The Kings will never EVER make the playoffs unless they solve their goaltending problem.
For that I first have to blame management. In particular Lombardi.
I can't say I blame MC for this loss , although I did raise an eyebrow when I saw Brown play with Handzus & Thornton.
Although Sully is one of my favorite player on the team, he was one step behind on defense all night, and a result he was Minus-3. He did manage to score though. Go figure.
NMKingsfan is right, we desparately need Frolov and Babs back real soon. Hell, even Nagy is needed.

I thought Quick looked good and a far better choice than Aubin which wouldn't be saying much.....

I can't believe I am going to say this, but Curtis Joseph is still available and he could make a nice stop-gap solution to the Kings goalie troubles. I know he has been working out up there in Ontario waiting for someone to call. Kings Pres. Lucky played a season with him in Detroit so there is that connection. I can't keep watching Aubin give up goals on shots I could have stopped. Any chance the Kings will sign CuJo to be the goalie savior? I'm happy with Labarbera starting, but I think CuJo would make for a nice back-up, or they could simply split the duties.

Aubin starting and Guiliano on the second line with handzus and Osullivan on the 4th line wing to start the game is all I should have to say but,

wtf is MC doing ? Guiliano shouldn't have had half that ice time sure he hustles more than nagy but Osullivan can score but not on the same line as Ivaninis and Thornton. I thought guiliano was brought here to center the 4th line, wtf ?

And aubin should have made at least 1 maybe 2 of those saves, and yeah this team played like shit the breakouts were some of the worst ive seen all year long, the passing was shit and the d was tired because of stuart being the only to stand up for vis, this team needs to get bigger and tougher.

Start Quick. If for nothing else, he was scheduled to start anyway. Plus he is young. He can rebound quickly.

To be brutally honest, if the Kings don't trade for Luongo or Brodeur, they aren't going to the playoffs. Starting Jan 1 they need to purge the vets, stock pile for '08 - '09. Kinda what Phily and Chicago did last year.

Rich and Matt... you guys have a little problem here... The Kings.

Unless they do something drastic (like win TWO games in a row) or fire MC or trade someone big ...i'm snoozing not only at the games, but here also.

Just a log on to see the loss and the now routine "not blaming the goaltending" for allowing in various types of shots is getting old.

It's a great site ya got here but unless the Kings get out of the cellar... there's really not much I care about.

quick. he's earned one more start, and it's not like it can hurt us too much. can't wait for labs to come back; i miss his (relative) consistency.

to be fair, neither goalie got a lot of help on D, although aubin should have stopped at least 1 of those 3.

He had to tinker with all the lines. They were 2 men short and have 2 injured scratched players.
Quick is supposed to start so I hope they keep it that way.

Quick is SO NOT READY for prime time, though he's still better than Brust or Fukufuji, but it's still "deja vu all over again..."

Nagy didn't make the trip, so get over that one.

Ivanans is pathetic, though as Quick is to Brust and Fukufuji, Ivanans is to Flinn.

Bring up Bagnall??? What the hell has he done in either the AHL or the ECHL to prove he could skate in the NHL. Answer: Nothing.

O'Sullivan... I'm his biggest supporter, and when people were so sure he wouldn't even make the team, I went so far as to say he had the most raw offensive talent on the team. And, while I am still pretty sure that he may have just that, he has been a consistent minus player for the past 5-6 games, culminating in a -3 tonight even WITH a goal. I love the guy, but he's been a red light magnet recently. All kids slump. He's actually in one now.

I have to agree with Garrett, CuJo could be a good thing for the team right now. Either way, the goalie situation needs fixing somehow. That's not to say that's the only weak point, but obviously the guys can score so it's the defense I'm worried about, be that defensemen or defensive forwards or goalies - improving overall defense is needed.

As far as starting next game, I'd have to go with Quick.

Although they lost I was happy to see them fighting!!! Come on, they needed to get tougher and it's looking like they finally are. And for those of you copmplaining about line tinkering, it helped lead to Anze's goal last night. He was fed the puck my Calder who, by the way, should be on the ice as much as his legs can carry him. He's been one of the best players on the team lately. He may not be getting as many points as Brown or Kopitar but he's so strong with the puck and seems to make great decisions all the time. As far as the goaltending goes you can't blame Aubin for last night. The Hawks were getting too many chances. They're a fast team that was taking advantage of the King's turnovers.

Does it matter who starts in goal this team has no guts and no passion. Lombardi is a joke and so is Crawford. I am sick of this team. Why should I drive from south OC to watch this joke gutless franchise. I am sick of it. I have no problem firing lombardi and Crawford. This team shows no sign of improvement.

Does it matter who starts in goal this team has no guts and no passion. Lombardi is a joke and so is Crawford. I am sick of this team. Why should I drive from south OC to watch this joke gutless franchise. I am sick of it. I have no problem firing lombardi and Crawford. This team shows no sign of improvement.

Panicking and throwing money at Cujo won't get the team into the playoffs. There's a reason he's unsigned....he's well past his prime. Everyone wants the youth to play and get experience EXCEPT at the goalie position where they want an emergency fix.

When Labarberra was in he was adequate, and even good most nights. He hasn't been letting in the glaringly bad goals we saw all of last year.

He'll be back next week most likely so we just have to suffer watching erratic play of Aubin and Quick. To be fair, the most play that Aubin got was I think 3 games before Labarberra got hurt so he wasn't used to getting starts and it may take a few games to get his timing down again. Practice isn't the same as a game.

Marc Nathan you're nothing but hater! Quick is INFINITELY better then Brust & Fukufuji! He may not be ready to be an NHL #1, but he has SO MUCH more talent & grit.

People need to remember we're still in a rebuild phase - Sully, JJ & Browny stepping up this season is all that matters. Yeah making the playoffs would be nice, but with the talent we have in the system, patience is SO in order.

You know if we bring in cujo, he will fall to the Kings curse. We don't need someone in their dawn or twighlight, we need someone who is highnoon.

Tito Jackson said:
You know if we bring in cujo, he will fall to the Kings curse. We don't need someone in their dawn or twighlight, we need someone who is highnoon.

Would that be the curse of Furh? It didn't seem to effect Sean Burke...

Getting Curtis Joseph would be like getting Sean Burke last year. Cujo isn't the player he once was, look at Phoenix last year.
Looks like the team has no confidence in their goalies.
Seems MC's system of over powering in the offensive zone with an attacking Defense man gets the Kings in trouble all the time. Both Blake and Johnson were caught deep and never could catch up.

I think one of the biggest problems with the King's is size. all the other teams look bigger. King's are just man handled.

I have to agree with a lot of others here in saying MC has to stop mixing up the lines, this guys have no idea how all the other guys play, don't know where they will be on a giving play. You see this in all the strange passes, either ahead of a player or behind, or even passing when no one is there..
This is claimed as a rebuilding year. This will be true if everyone comes back next year. Any bets on that?

Cujo will be no better than what we have. LaBarbara has made a case for himself as the #1 this year and probably only this year. Whether its Aubin or Quick, they don't fit into the future plans for the Kings. Aubin has proven himself to be nothing more than a journeyman who can get hot at times but mostly sucks.

We don't need to go out and get a Luongo or Brodeur. They cost young NHL talent. Anyone willing to give up Kopitar or JJ for Luongo? We're not getting him for Giuliano and Sully.

You have to have patience and wait for Bernier next year. He is the goaltending savior of this franchise,like it or not.

Shakes,
We're a select few out here ha? I'm going to try to get to at least 1 of the games. probably MSG and/or Coliseum.

Cujo is 40 yrs old and wasn't exactly stellar with Phoenix last year.. (18-31 w-l)

That would be a huge step backwards much like signing Grant Fuhr when he was washed up.

It's a foregone conclusion that his team will not make it to the playoffs under it's current state. It's better for DL to:

a) Fire Crawfish.
b) Dump some salary.
c) get another young kid in the draft.
d) get a top tier goalie.

The Giuliano thing left me scratching my head too. If they called up Giuliano because he fit the 4th line better than Gauthier. Why not keep up Gauthier who is 10x better on offense and put him on the 2nd line?????

I am ready for Ted Purcell to get called up.

You forgot E: repeat A-D next year(change to current coaches name where applicable.

Being a Kings fan is like being a prisoner waiting to get your parole approved.

Aubin is the backup goalie and should get the start even though Quick is probably better. Quick is here on a temporary assignment only. If he does get the start then MC is starting to run scared. Personally I hope Quick does get the start.

Good news for the Kings prospect:

"The two cuts in goal mean that Lewiston's Jonathan Bernier and London Knights goalie Steve Mason will be the goaltending tandem for this year's squad. Bernier, a 2006 draft pick of the Los Angeles Kings, earned a win in the NHL team's first regular season game in London, England and is expected to be the starter.

With the cuts, the lines for the tournament should see Brad Marchand, Kyle Turris and Claude Giroux on the first line, Zach Boychuk, Brandon Sutter and Stefan Legein on the second unit, Shawn Matthias, Steve Stamkos and Matthew Halischuk on the third line and Colton Gillies, Riley Holzapfel and Wayne Simmonds on the fourth line. Oshawa Generals forward John Tavares will likely be rotated among the forward lines and on the power play unit.

The defensive pairings will have Kyle Alzner and Drew Doughty on the top shutdown unit, followed by Thomas Hickey and Luke Schenn and Josh Godfrey and Logan Pyett. Blueliner PK Subban will be the seventh defenceman."

http://tsn.ca/world_jrs/news_story/?ID=225082&hubname=

I like how everyone says fire Dl or get a top tier goalie. This isn't NHL08, you can't seng three free agents and then trade them for Brodeur. Get real. Top Tier goalies arent really available. Cujo is more past his prome then Cloutier. What is everyone saying we should do? Sign Cujo because LaBarbera is out for a couple weeks?? I've got a better solution... Tell our Head Coach that it is unacceptable to start a Goalie with 2 bad groin muscles in an NHL game. It's where players compete at the highest level and if you're goalie can't do that, then he shouldn't be playing. I don't care how inexperienced quick is. He's healthy and that's what we've got.

The reason MC keeps f***in with the lines is because he currently has a roster with only 3 centers on it. Go Figure. He refuses to use O'Sullivan at his Natural position, as a center. i think he's shown that he plays better at center, and he is young and talented, he should get a chance at that 2nd line center job. Give him some permanent wingers, and leave handzu on the 3rd, and Army on the 4th. Enough is Enough.

Richards just signed a 12 year deal with Philly for $69mm (5.75/yr). I hope the Kings sign Kopitar for just as long.

John -

I'm a "hater" for saying: Quick is SO NOT READY for prime time, though he's still better than Brust or Fukufuji, but it's still "deja vu all over again..."

"SO NOT READY" doesn't mean will never be... it just means that the kid has less than a dozen games of pro experience, and he's being asked to bar the door of a building that is already losing its hinges and failing at the foundation.

For those crying out for Cujo or any other goaltenders in the league are just out of touch with reality. It doesn't matter if we put the best goalie between the pipes. If the players around the goalie aren't playing well, they too will fall to mediocrity.

Didn't Aubin say he was playing with a sore groin? If thats true, there's no sense in starting him again tonight and let his injury get worse....

First of all, the Kings did not "sign" Grant Fuhr. They traded Alex Zhitnik to Buffalo for him in what may have been the worst trade in the team's history (though the Robitaille for Rick Tocchet, Coffey for Jimmy Carson and Gary Shuchuk, Gretzky for Roman Vopat and Craig Johnson, and Sandstrom for McSorely deals were all pretty awful too; thanks a lot Sam McMaster and Nick Beverly).

Secondly, I did not suggest making CuJo the long-term goaltending fix. We all know Bernier is supposed to be the starter in the future. I did not even suggest CuJo be the Kings starter. I said they should bring him in to start until Labarbera gets back and he can back up until then. He is definitely no longer in his prime, but if he is willing to come back for the love of the game and a chance to help build something in L.A. he would be a great back-up for the right price. I would never suggest "throwing money at him."

The real reason CuJo does not have a job is that the other 29 teams in the league don't have goaltending problems like the Kings do. You can point to pretty much every team and find if not an excellent goalie (and sometimes two excellent goalies) at least a team that is satisfied with who they have in there. Such has not been the case for the Kings in a very long time.

Anyway, I agree with the assertion that it doesn't matter who the Kings have in goal if the defense is going to be so subpar, but that was not the problem in Chicago last night. Aubin let in 2 weak goals to start the game and then a third that I'm not going to blame him for, but I still think a top caliber goalie would have had it.

The defense has been pretty abysmal. Especially Brad Stuart. What a waste of money he has turned out to be. I wish the Kings would stop picking up former Sharks because they have not been helping. The only other defenseman who I think has really been bad is Rob Blake, which is unfortunate because while his overall performance has not been good there have been some bright spots over the course of the season. But I always thought Blake was pretty over-rated.

First thing I'd like to know is, just how many of you guys who are saying you could stop the shots and you could do this and that ..... have YOU REALLY BEEN THERE???? I have and unless you have, you don't have a clue. Of course being fans??? You're going to praise one day and hang'um the next .... but so quickly you want to keep this team in flux, you can't just snap your fingers and it's all better. I'm sorry, but the KIngs REALLY do need time together and it will take all season and part of next and some of the players we know now will be gone.

Marc Nathan,

But you also said Quick is to Brust & Fukufuji what Ivanans is to Flinn. So you're basically saying Quick's the same as Brust & Fukufuji. SO NOT the case! Quick will probably turn out to be our #2 beside Bernier

Garret,
That IS in fact the worst trade in Kings history!

FYI... just read tsn.ca and there is article that pittsburgh is looking into Cujo.