That seems really good for the Kings. Hopefully Jack plays well during that time and earns an extension.

Wow. That’s a surprisingly low number. As someone on another blog, writing about another team, said recently, we always overvalue our own players. You guys were much closer to the real number than I was.

My guess is that Jack wanted the short term and Dean wanted the low number, so they met in the middle. And it gives DL more flexibility re the cap so everybody wins.

sounds like he’s trade bait… I hope not. I hope he turns out to live up to all the hype and I hope he gets paid at the end of the day. Anyway it’s great to have that out of the way for now, and he can really focus on just playing.

anthonyy, Johnson was actually making 850K last year, his cap hit was 2.15 because of possible bonuses.

Yikes!! Makes you wonder what the hold up was? I’m assuming this still makes him a RFA in 2 years? Unlike Cammalleri we won’t have to trade him after 1 year?

Anthonyy you might be forgeting the $2 million included all the signing bonus. Jack’s actual contract was only around $800K.

To me this is a definate win/win. Jack gets time to prove he’s worth the big bucks and can go to arbitration if need be once the contract is up. The Kings get a player who will hopefully be driven to earn that next contract. Fits with what DL has always said about them needing to earn it us fans win buy getting to see a great young player in a Kings uniform next year and hopefully beyond.

Great contract for both sides. Johnson is a millionaire, and the Kings won’t tie up their cap space on an unproven young player, yet I would love to see a nice extension at the end of the season if Johnson puts up good numbers.

Scuderi and Handzus are proven players – Johnson is not.

Simple as that Antonnnnnnny

Ok, JJ has not been terrible. In his first full season, he was not an offensive option while he learned how to play the NHL game. Last season, it was thought that he would be the PP quarterback on the point. Injury curbed that, in steps Quincy. 40 games later JJ returns and puts up more goals, and comparable assists in 1/2 of a season. Then in full health, tears up the WC’s and looks like a star.

If he plays anywhere near that caliber, in two years it will be worth it.

It is no big secret that the Kings will not be able to keep all of these young D, but who knows. Maybe in 2 years Teubert will be able to step in and contribute, Hickey will maybe have an NHL season under his belt.

I like this contract, it gives JJ a chance to really get out and earn his keep.

Thanks DL

$1.4 million isn’t a lot, but considering what we’re paying for Smyth and Scuderi, as well as Kopitar, Stoll and Handzus, that’s not bad. He’s only played one full season, but he has the potential to be a good defenseman. He’s nowhere near where Bouwmeester is along his development, but can get close in three years.

Considering that we’ve only got this contract for two years, and by that time Williams’ and Handzus’ contracts will be up also, we’ll have a lot of salary cleared after the 2010-11 season and can sign Johnson to a richer contract if need be. Doughty has two years left on his contract also, but with the bonuses he’s got his cap hit is already $3.5 million, so we needn’t really worry about him.

All in all, this is a great deal by DL, and he’ll be prepared for the 2011 offseason.

where is this post by anthonny you guys are responding to? I can’t see it anywhere…hmmm, maybe my jack@ass filter is turned up too high…..;)

Now sign Frolov!!!!

Great signing Dean!

So much for the 5mil per year rumors!

Jack really hasn’t proven crap, he just has his reputation from Michigan and Shattuck. I think its great, he has 2 years to earn the big contract, which I think he will.

“I’m thinking poor Purcell will be paid peanuts” – well hell, he hasn’t earned more then peanuts…… How did this guy graduate law school???

JJ4Pres,

The reason why TSN won’t report it right away is because they want to make sure they don’t embarrass Darren Dreger, who happens to be the first guy to report the whole JJ to KHL deal and how Jack was asking for 5.5.. Imagine how he feels now

src3 -

Upon the expiration of this contract, on 7/1/2011, JJ will be 24, with 4 accrued seasons under his belt. In order to be a UFA, a player needs to be 27 with 4 accrued seasons, or younger with 7 accrued seasons (Doughty, for example, will be eligible for UFA at 25, because he will have seven accrued seasons by that time).

Therefore, in 2011, JJ will be an RFA with arbitration rights and the rest of it. Ought to be a fun summer for the RFAs, since the other eligible Kings are Doughty, Moller, Simmonds and Bernier.

Anthonyy –

As others have pointed out, JJ was on an entry level contract of $850K. The rest was bonuses. If there was a signing bonus, he got that. The other bonuses there’s no way he got since he was injured most of the season.

I disagree with the folks who say JJ has been terrible. He’s been alternatingly great and problematic.

Re Teddy –

Give him a break. He’s a goal scorer with 50 games under his belt. I’m looking forward to him building on last season.

great signing. of course Anthonyy doesn’t like it…he needs to not like it after all the things he’s said about DL…He can’t turn back now! Its too late to give any credit. hahah Anthonyy…ridiculous.

bottom line, the flexibility is there for both sides. A great win/win for everyone. Looking forward to a great season!

Good, that’s settled. Signed and sealed for two years. Hopefully, there’s no lingering ill-will, and they’ll be able to work out a longer deal in a year or two…

Woo Hoo!!!! Sign and Trade!!!!

Excellent! At worst, he struggles for two seasons, but it’s not a major overpayment and we have the flexibility for a trade. At best, he begins reaching his potential and it’s a steal. Good signing.

this is good news all-around for the kings and jj…and further goes to show you how crazy all the hyperbolic rumors were about both parties a few weeks back…

the terms are great…and i, too, thought the contract would be more in the $2mil+ range per and be about three years…

and now there’s fro…

i can’t even comment at this point since we have no idea if talks are even underway…but if they are, i wonder if both camps would like to get a deal done fast…

if fro’s previous comments were any indication, you would think he wants to get a deal done asap…i would think d.l. has the same mindset, as well…

ordinarily, a player in the final year of their deal would probably rather play out the season in hopes to put up better numbers in order to create leverage/pay increase/test free agency…i’m not so sure that’s the case w/fro…and i’m not so sure he would get a bigger deal with the kings…

would fro take $3.5 to 4 mil/per…???

this is really going to be very interesting to see how badly fro wants to stay a king vs. how high a pay increase he demands…

antropov got $4 mil per for four years…(granted it was from the rangers, who notoriously over -value/spend on ufa’s)

isn’t frolov a much better two-way player than antropov…?
doesn’t he have better career numbers…?

the answer to both those questions is yes…hell yes…

so i hope for the best w/fro and wait anxiously to hear anything news-related on the issue…my fingers are crossed tightly until then…

Johnson proves with his actions that for him the main thing was never the $. Good for him: nice to see in this day and age. One more problem out of the way!

Check this video out posted by RioFan on LGK–Adolf Hitler on Dany Heatly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnE_cBLPYJI

Ziggy,
You seem to already know this, but rookies generally get bonuses because of the rookie salary cap. Doesn’t mean there aren’t bonuses in other (“veteran”) contracts…there are plenty. I’m sure you know that, too, sorry : )

Great signing by the Kings. Perfect for both sides, obviously. I’m glad he’ll still be restricted at the end of the term. With contracts coming off the books (as people here have stated), JMFJ will be due a huge raise (after he’s put up huge numbers, of course), a couple of young guys will step in (Teubert will almost certainly be one of them, if he hadn’t already done so) to help out our bottom line. It just seems to be coming together. Dean and his people have a good grasp of the cap situation. My only question, on occasion, is their take on talent, on certain areas of the team, which is something every GM and every fan in every NHL city have disagreements on.

Great job, Dean & Co.
It’s a terrific time to be a Kings fan. Finally.

This is the only thing one can say about Anthony’s latest little diatribe (courtesy of Billy Madison):
“What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

Great news. I’m surprised it didn’t cost us more, based on his potential and our lack of mobile defensemen.

I’d love to get Frolov sewn up too but management’s public pronouncements have been pretty lukewarm. Hopefully that is just a motivating tactic on their part.

Another big plus is that this signing makes a good mark within the organization of where salary for drafted (not that JJ exactly was) D players should be set at. With so many youthful and promising defenders coming through over the next few years we now have a # 3 pick with 2 years experience signed at this rate, it will help DL manage the cap in the future.

If DL can lock up Frolov for another 4-5 years @ 3.5-4m py as well this off season, the franchise truly turns the corner. The Kings will be in great shape in so many ways for years to come!

You know, the outrageously healthy thing about this horrible economy is that the skilled high money makers and the corporate capitalists that pay them are both scared at the same time. Some times, both crazy-makers see the light at the same time. This contract appears incredibly SANE! Can you beat that?

Sanity in sports contracts is a good thing, no matter when it happens. Can DL-Fro follow suit? If so, the Kings just may be able to grow into an outstanding team.

Before the JJ contract, I gave the chances of a Frolov extention to be about 20%.

Now… Could it be? Could it be?

Just like Cal Ripken’s All-Star home run, I want to be Charlie Steiner and say: “It is!” Frolov a King FOREVER.

Until then, I happy.

…I was hoping for 11mil for 5 years, with the first two years being front loaded. This is a trade bait contract. A team would be salivating for a player with this much potential, and at only 1.4…wow. DL may have just doubled JJs value on the open market as a result of this contract.
Don’t anyone give up on Purcell just yet…the kids got huge skills, he just needs some time!

Tweener-

Yes obviously I am aware that rookies are not the only ones who get bonuses. My question is: Is Jack’s real salary number 1.425 or is the contract bonus-laden where it might end up costing the Kings closer to 2 or 3 mil per?

The reason I asked is bc Kevin Y said Doughty’s cap hit was 3.5 mil. Why is it so high and is there a chance Jack’s cap number goes up?

I guess to be more specific: How do bonuses affect a cap number and do only rookie salaries effect a cap number?

Thnx

ziggy- players signed to entry level contracts, veteran players (400+games) coming off long-term injury and signed to a one year contract, and players signed after 35 years of age to a one year contract are the only ones eligible to recieve performance bonuses (all others are not), the kind that would inflate like doughtys.

All players can get roster, signing, and reporting bonuses, and i believe these are already counted in the contract (e.g. can’t increase). Reading CBA, there are all types of scenarios and factors that determine whether a bonus affects the cap or not- it’s quite confusing.

The list of performance bonuses is too long to go into, but it’s things like scoring a certain amount of goals, ice time, etc. You can check it out here: http://www.nhlfa.com/CBA/cba_agreement36.asp

Well it sure wouldn’t be a Kings signing or any deal without some complaining from anthonyy. First players are signed for too much now he sides with a player as if he has been screwed with a bad deal. Scuderi has done far more in this league and proven what kind of NHL player he is. He earned his contract. Jack’s contract is pretty fair for a player that has yet to show he will even be an above average player yet. Not trying to knock him, it is just the truth, partly from injuries and partly from how he played when he was out there.

Hopefully he realizes some of that potential everyone talked about when he was traded for. I think he had too much hype, but I guess he can still live up to some of that. I just hope he plays even partly up top that hype because it will be good for the Kings and good for Jack.

Great deal considering where the kings are at and where Jack is at in his career.

Sweet! That’s SOOOOOOOO not 5M.

But…he’ll be FA when Doughty, Simmonds, and Moeller come up for their contracts. And arbitration eligible. good contract either way though.

Rich gets a much deserved plug from Matthew Berry:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=22189

Huzzah for Jack! (Don’t laugh, I’m trying to bring huzzah back!)

I think 54FIGHTER hit it right on the button when he said that DL is in no hurry to sign Frolov because he’s ( hoping ) that Kovalchuk will not re-sign with Atlanta and trade Frolov for Kovalchuk.. But that if ( only ) Atlanta doesn’t do well and the Kings do.. As for JJ, this signing of 1.425 mil per year is a real good call for trade-bait.. It’s alot more easier to move such a contract like JJ’s and as all of you pointed out it does give him time to prove himself,if not?… I have a feeling that Souray might be in a Kings uniform this year or next year… I wish that Hartnell trade was real….

I watched part of the Kings-Dallas game from season before last on Tuesday night. Defensemen were: Blake, Modry, Dahlman, Visnovski, Stuart, and Johnson. Only JJ remains.

Ziggy, Tweener re bonuses -

-J beat me to it. To underline: there are no bonuses allowed under the CBA except in entry level contracts, over-35 contracts, and contracts for players who have been injured more than 100 days the previous season (however, injury-clause contracts must be one year deals). All potential bonuses in entry level contracts count against the cap; however the team is allowed to exceed the cap ceiling by the amount of the potential bonuses (but not exceeding 7.5% of the cap). However, at the end of the season, once the bonuses have been paid or not, the amount the team turned out to have exceeded the cap (once the real bonus-earned numbers have been factored in) is subtracted from the team’s cap ceiling the following year. (in other words, if you have a bonus cushion and you know your players aren’t going to earn their bonuses, you can spend the cushion; or if you just want to, in effect, borrow from next year’s cap, you can do that up to the level of your bonus cushion; but like any borrowing, the tab comes due sooner or later; and nobody wants to make next year’s cap smaller than it’s already going to be — however, I can’t wait to see how stupid Chicago is on this score…)

I don’t know what the deal is with bonuses for injury clauses or +35 contracts; since we don’t have any of those, I haven’t paid attention.

So, in my opinion, Lombardi made a few mistakes by losing Cammalleri, Visnovski, Demitra, Conroy and Stuart over the last few seasons. I can’t imagine what the kings would be like now with those players. However, I’m happy to see him pulling through this year with good contracts and pickups in drafts and trades. I don’t want anyone to start attacking any of these comments, just some opinions would be nice to see.

Guys relax.
I haven’t even left a comment here for about a week.
Most of you guys want me gone, and I’m trying to oblige.
Once in while I’ll put in my two cents, and it becomes assault city, character assasination, name calling, etc…
I’m a kings fan too you know.

Great signing by DL…did anyone else notice that Scuderi is apparently wearing #7? It’s on the lakings.com…who will be wearing #4?

“Once in while I’ll put in my two cents, and it becomes assault city, character assasination, name calling, etc…” Anthonyy, while i know you keep your name calling to king’s management and don’t go after posters, you still reap what you sow.

burtonx, re Cammalleri, Visnovski, Demitra, Conroy and Stuart:

I liked all of those guys within certain limits. Only one (Cammalleri) seemed to me to have a bad attitude. They were all expensive though and if we had them now we would be talking about $25MM in salary, which is obviously nuts. The return on most of those guys was good, especially considering that Demitra and Cammy both walked from their next teams so those teams got nothing for them.

Markisonfire, re good questions:

Is our third line center worth $4 million?

You can’t judge a free agent contract by the same rules as an entry-level contract or an RFA contract. Handzus got that number because that’s what the market dictated. I agree with you that’s a big contract for a third line center. He earned it last year, being essentially the hub of a new defensive system. The first year, though, was bad.

Also, you have to consider that the market was a little crazier two years ago. Now it’s calmed down a bit.

Are Matt Greene and Rob Scuderi worth a combined $6.35 million cap hit until at least the 2012-13 season?

That depends on how many shots they block. But I would say, yes probably. Handzus and Greene were huge factors in the Kings’ defensive success last year. Scuderi should be even better with the Kings than he was with the Pens, given that Murray’s system plays to his strengths. It’s tempting to think you’re over-paying for defensive players. But look at Lidstrom. Yes, he’s the gold standard. But I think it’s worth it to have such players on your team.

Is Kopitar, who had 66 points last season, worth $6.8 million until 2015-16?

Maybe he was saving it till his contract kicked in. (I make joke.) If he puts up those numbers again this year it’s a problem. I am probably one of the few here who puts last season’s troubles squarely at the feet of Kopitar and Brown. Not that I don’t love them. But they need to rebound this Fall. I think they will, anything’s possible. (it helps to remember that Kopitar is only 21. Or is he 22 yet? I forget…)

Just a thought and I don’t know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but with all the talk about the Kings needing another defenseman why not Sergei Zubov? Could they get him on the cheap and if needed ship him out at the deadline to a contender if by chance we are not doing well this year? Or keep him if we are contending for the playoffs. He would fill the void left by Quincey as a puck moving defenseman and power play guy. Most valuably he adds a great veteran presence to a core of great young defenseman that could benefit from his years even if it’s for a half a season or so. What do you guys think?

King J

Quisp…you took the words out of my mouth re Anthonyy….I tend to lean towards the theory of he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing. If not, Anthonyy; I’m sure Charles Wang will give up his copy of the book Hockey for Dummies…once he gets it back from Milbury…:)

Both sides win with a signing like this. I’ve said it before, nobody knows what the economic climate will look like in 2 years with the CBA coming up for re-negotiation. DL is positioning the Kings to be prepared for anything. He also save $$ for possible deadline deals this season if we’re in contention, which I expect we will be.
I know, I may be a DL shill, but its because his plan makes sense and is working.
We don’t have one long term deal currently on the books that is onerous.
How many other teams can say that?

“I watched part of the Kings-Dallas game from season before last on Tuesday night. Defensemen were: Blake, Modry, Dahlman, Visnovski, Stuart, and Johnson. Only JJ remains.”
It is a good thing our goalies were on top of their game back then.

Anthonyy, I thought you were on vacation this week?

“I watched part of the Kings-Dallas game from season before last on Tuesday night. Defensemen were: Blake, Modry, Dahlman, Visnovski, Stuart, and Johnson. Only JJ remains.”
It is a good thing our goalies were on top of their game back then.

The goalie was LaBarbara.

Labarbara is in Phoenix now.

Quisp, in regards to placing blame on Kopitar and Brown:
I couldn’t agree more. Kopitar was non-existant in the first two months of the season. It doesn’t matter how much defensive responsibility was put on him, that doesn’t explain missing an open net on multiple occasions. Brown should do a lot better this year with personal issues long gone coupled with the fact that the Kings’ top 6 improved by quite a bit (Williams, Smyth).

markisonfire –

Yes, there was a lot of “absence of finish” last season. The Kings were in the middle of the pack in shots taken and 27th over-all in shooting%. Compare the last four seasons goals-per-game, season shot totals and shooting% (best in bold):

08-09 2.42 2383 8.5% (Terry Murray)
07-08 2.72 2349 9.6% (Crawford)
06-07 2.68 2542 8.8% (Crawford)
05-06 2.93 2394 10.2% (Andy Murray)

What that says to me: last season the team took more shots than the previous (Crawford) season, and roughly as many as the last Andy Murray season. That first Crawford season is far and away the shot leader (and was also the worst of the four defensively). If the Kings had been in the middle of the pack in shooting% instead of at the bottom, they would have scored 26 more goals. And what a difference that could have made.

Incidentally, the defensive numbers for those same years, goals against, shots against (best in bold):

08-09 226 2075
07-08 263 2362
06-07 277 2163
05-06 269 2190

People blame TM for the Kings not getting it done offensively, but come on, did you guys take a look at the line-up??

POS: crap player
DB: Personal issues
Kopi: Lazy off year due to big contract
JW: injured
Frolov: inconsistent, but consistent at the same time
Defense: young

I give tons of credit to TM for straitening out the team D, now that JW is healthy and with the addition of Smyth, this team will score goals. Maybe not as much as the Wings or Penns, but they will score and get it done. Mark my words…

My fault, guys…

Sorry.

Grrr, my excessively wordy comment self-deleted before I finished it. Okay, I’ll retype.

Bako,

Yes re one goal games. Over time, the outliers will return to the mean. The bigger the sample, the more likely this is. This is why I referenced shooting%. The Kings’ shooting% last year is likely to uptick by 1%, even without the team getting better. And the team did get better.

The Puck Stops Here blog ran some pretty interesting team Corsi numbers, which I talked about here:

http://kwisp.wordpress.com/2009/07/17/from-the-puck-stops-here-team-corsi-numbers/

The bottom line is that the Kings, surprisingly to the guy who wrote the article, have the best team Corsi numbers of all the non-playoff teams (11th over-all). I commented that, in a certain sense, Corsi measures potential, and Kings’ Corsi number reflects several things they did right last year.

(p.s. Corsi is a measure of all shot events for — shots on goal, blocked shots and missed shots all counting the same — minus all shot events against. What’s nice about it is it takes the goaltender out of the equation, and, also, on the offensive side, it measures a kind of generic “posession” in the offensive zone.)

The Kings Corsi is high because

1) They had a very low shots against total. Tops in the league for most of the season and 4th overall finally.
2) related to (1), the defensive system effectively controlled and limited shot events.
3) on the offensive side, the Kings generated more shots than the season before.
4) lack of finish. This is what makes the Kings’ Corsi so much higher relative to, say, team +/-.

I think this is important because it suggests that the team just has to keep doing what it’s been doing, only more so. Not only will the puck start finding the back of the net, but with Williams and Smyth added, there will be (had better be) more crashing of the blue paint, more grimy goals, more Phil Esposito goals. More goals.

It would be reasonable to expect next seasons Corsi to stay the same (middle of the pack) while the team +/- trends toward the same middle…instead of, you know, the bottom.

QUISPY…

thank you…good anecdote…appropriate…

just wanted to give some fair and balanced blogging…

however, we are here for hockey…and that’s good enough for me…

Thanks Quispie, you had my back.

Luuc –

Sadly, the point #3 you refer to has been sentenced to the void. Some of my best work.

Great signing at a fair rate.

Krystoff,

“Johnson contract = An insult that may backfire as Johnson cannot be billed as a greed merchant”

Johnson hasn’t proven anything yet, and how can you not like the amount Dean signed him for, especially in today’s salary cap NHL?? Dean did a wonderful job with Johnson and Smyth. Dean signed Scuderi for about a million more than he’s worth, but hey, thats the only way to bring free agents to LA at the moment

Krystoff said:

“Scuderi = A name to appease the fans irate about the horrible FA work by DL. Has the potential to actually lead the team backwards a step as he has little offensive capabilities, which is the team’s biggest problem at the moment. Also, could look even worse as Quincey may again perform well at both ends of the ice.”

Would you have preferred DL to sign one of the overrated FAs to enormous long contracts instead?? We don’t need offensive D-men, since we have JJ, Doughty, and Hickey if he makes it.

“Johnson contract = An insult that may backfire as Johnson cannot be billed as a greed merchant, and he is ten times tougher than Doughty (one of DL’s supposed “prized assets.”

Have to agree with KhanonIsBack on this. 2 year deal that barely has an impact on the cap. Phenomenal work by big DL.

Latest rumor is Frolov is going to KHL when his contract expires…

Khanon,

Whose basement did that rumor come from?

Krystoff,

Comparing players is usually difficult enough, let alone comparing a player to a manager. Interesting. Lame, but interesting.

Re Frolov/KHL rumor:

http://kwisp.wordpress.com/2009/07/19/from-fantasy-hockey-forumsdobberhockey-preempting-a-possible-frolov-to-khl-in-2010-rumor/

You decide…

Krystoff said:

Johnson contract = An insult that may backfire as Johnson cannot be billed as a greed merchant, and he is ten times tougher than Doughty (one of DL’s supposed “prized assets.”

Why do you question Doughty as a “supposed ‘prized asset?’”

He is a prized asset. He is the man.

Johnson 10 times tougher? Maybe he’s tougher, since he is older and like 225 lbs., but Doughty is the man. Have you ever seen him play?

Why are you upset about such a low cap hit for a player who hasn’t proven much yet, but has great potential, and now the ball’s in his court to play that potential and earn a contract worthy of a big-name D-man?

And why would it backfire? DL has defended Jack by refuting the rumors that he asked for 5.5 mil, even saying in the state of the franchise talk that such rumors “aren’t fair to Jack,” and called him a good kid. Greed merchant? DL never called him a greed merchant, that’s for sure.

What’s wrong?

uknojata –

on the other hand, since frolov is smart, maybe he signs an extension now for good but not insane money and has a great season and all of this is moot.

I really don’t think DL unloads Frolov when he only just solved his left wing problem by bringing Smyth in. anything can happen of course. maybe i’m just in denial…

Krystoff

Look at this from a Kings fan point of view…From your comments, not too sure what kind of fan you are…

DL signs JJ to a lower contract then we all anticipated. That $$ now theoretically becomes available if we’re in contention and need to make a deadline move. Would you rather have JJ signed for what you consider to be fair market and then have us right up against the cap unable to make a move?
I remember certain people complaining that Brown signed a below market deal and will be unhappy.
hmmmm haven’t heard much from Brownie about being underpaid and miserable.
Most of these guys are not mlb/nba/nfl type guys…by that I mean they sign their contract and immediately want out of it..I said most of these guys (Heatley excluded)
That’s what DL talks about “character guys” It’s all about hockey and what they can do to help their team win. They understood what they were signing for and for how long and under no duress, put their signature on the contract.

As for your comments about Scuderi and Smythe…
Not much to say since your reasoning makes as much sense as what Anthonyy writes on this blog.

If Jack wasn’t happy with what they offered, it would be a lot later than July before he signed.

rjc76 — since you are fairly new, ( and welcome) I will let you know that you are very close. But this one poster, Krystoff, Cristobal, EatThe Rich, Open letter to tim Leiweke, stang, mr Nuff, and numerous others has opened dozen of screen names with the primary purpose of driving intelligent posters away from this site. He is like the guy who buys a 3 cent stock in a company that has lost 10 million a year for 10 years. He posts with multiple screen names that he has inside information and the company is going to turn a profit this quarter.

Anyway, if you go into the archives, you can easily pick out Krystoff’s other screen names. It will also be easy to see some of the great posters, kings 28, who no longer come to this site because of the constant DL bashing Krystoff puts down. It amazes me that anyone could have so much contempt for Rich’s efforts. So, instead of a player agent, look at the owner of a rival Kings website.

Mr Nuff –

I completely understand your anger at being lumped in with someone else’s pseudonyms. Obviously, Jet is presuming. However, it’s hard to blame him when the effect he’s describing (posters registering under multiple names) is real and it is irritating and dishonest. Think about it (I’m really not talking to you here though): if the multiple-name poster weren’t annoying and/or agitating people, no one would even notice their multiple names. The different identities only come to light when they’ve been annoying just like that other guy was annoying. So one concludes it’s the same guy.

More than a few times I have found myself in an exchange with a poster who after many comments back and forth I realize I’m “talking” to someone with whom I’ve already had the very same conversation a million times, someone with whom there is a history/archive of debates to wade through. It’s not — as in your case — simply being shut out of your usual name by a registration snafu (I frequently don’t get to use the name “Quisp” on other sites because someone else has beaten me to it, so I go with “Kwisp” or “Qwisp” — because I’m not trying to fool anyone. In fact, it’s the opposite: I want to openly associate my current comment with my past comments, so people will know where I’m coming from. Whereas the poster who changes his name a million times has either been banned and so is forced to change his/her name, or is just interested in perpetrating a fraud. It’s a trick. It wastes everybody’s time.

And, as your situation here illustrates, it causes everyone to distrust everyone else, to treat anyone new with a closed mind. Why bother taking people’s comments at face value when it’s possible you’re just being duped? I know for myself I no longer bother trying to engage people who might actually be legitimately angry but thoughtful fellow fans because in the back of my mind I wonder if they’re not actually the same irrational a**h*** who’s been bugging me for a couple of years now.

What’s funny is, they (he?) always try to hide their identities by changing their writing voices a bit and steering away from the same old complaints, but sooner or later their compulsions get the better of them and they just can’t help themselves.

Quisp,

I understand your frustration at the whole multiple screen name issue entirely. I have been frustrated by the same thing.
However, it doesn’t excuse Jet from “PRESUMING” I am one of these identities he has had issue with. What puzzles/frustrates me is, if he did ANY homework (read ANY of my posts) he would KNOW I have supported 99% of DL’s moves with the exception of the Cloutier contract extension. When you make ACCUSATIONS of “driving other posters away” and being a troll in general, you REALLY should know what you’re talking about and not just “PRESUME”. I have never even had a dispute with Jet of any kind. So maybe JET should go back and read these archives as he recommended to the new poster, and know exactly who the “troublemakers” are before he starts throwing names around just because they are new to him.
Jet, you owe me a public apology.

Back in the hockey world, the Kings signed Juraj Mikus.

From Twitter:

LAKingsHockey Check LAKings.com at 12pm (PT) for a player-related announcement including a video interview with Ron Hextall talking about the signings!

And what was meant by this, Jet?:

“So, instead of a player agent, look at the owner of a rival Kings website.”

Mr. Nuff………… Get over it

I have no idea bout this Mikus guy, but I am wondering what’s up with Teddy. Anyone have any word on him yet?

Not sure, in regards to Teddy. All I know is that signing Mikus brings the Kings up to 23 players signed.

marksonfire –

I’m going to guess that his contract allows him to go to Europe if he doesn’t make the Kings out of camp, so that, like Brady Murray, while his contract will count against the 50 contract limit, it doesn’t necessarily mean he will make the big club and count against the 23.

Quisp,

I visit a lot of message boards and I’d have to say that you are the most intelligent and articulate poster I’ve read. I appreciate your well though out insights and your ability to stay out of the divisive dialogue.

Keep up the good work.

Realdrew -

Thanks!

JDM -

I think so too. Still no word yet though. Not to mention YOU(R) EYE ME KOOSH!!

Thanks for the heads up on Purcell. I was getting worried there for a sec. One of the greatest things about last season for me was having a fellow Newfoundlander play on my beloved team. I’m glad he’s around for another year at least. I’m sure he’s working hard over the summer and prepping for a chance to get on this years roster.

my buddy texted me and said he signed for 2.5 million for 1 year. yikes if its true. It cant be true that makes no sense.

ryan -

yes, that really can’t be true.

Ciccarelli — rjc76 said:

“Maybe all the whiners are actually his agent using different handles to complain because he didn’t get a bigger commission.”

My reply was:

“So, instead of a player agent, look at the owner of a rival Kings website.”

Since Krystoff is using multiple user IDs to drive people away from this site.

Mr. Nuff — I am on calls the rest of the day, and it is difficult for me to post coherently and listen to calls simultaneously. I will review tonight and if I am wrong, then I will apologize. Do you want it on this thread or the most recent thread?

To everyone else, I apologize for this but I have lost my patience with this crap since the incident Cristobal was kicked off this site.

Ahh, peace in our time…

Now, if we can only get a good-looking third jersey and another good trade rumor, maybe we’ll make it to next week!

I know one thing: It’s just too damned hot here in Bakersfield, 107 or higher for the last five days.

Jet,

If you are going to falsely accuse me of being another poster, can you at least provide some evidence or a link to some articles supporting such claims?
You are just making unfounded and libelous claims, very irresponsibly, and I have already sent a note to Rich about this matter.

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