USA camp recaps

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A sampling of thoughts and opinions from around the continent at the end of the Team USA Olympic orientation camp…

Pierre LeBrun of ESPN.com has come up with the nickname of “The Nasty Boys” for the American trio of Dustin Brown, David Backes and Ryan Kesler. He also quotes Team USA general manager Brian Burke as saying of Brown, “I got to watch way too much of Dustin Brown the last few years in Anaheim. He’s a pain in the ass. He’s a good player and he’s a big body that hits and plays with a high level of belligerence, which I like. And so, to me, there’s a guy who can play up and down and play on the fourth line or he can play on the first line.”

NHL.com looks at Rob Scuderi and Brooks Orpik, former teammates in Pittsburgh who were back together at the camp. Incidentally, Orpik was a strong target of Dean Lombardi last summer, before Orpik chose to remain with the Penguins.

Burke gives his further thoughts on the team in this Canadian Press story.

Kevin Allen of USA Today sums up the camp, and notes that the selection committee (which includes Dean Lombardi) will meet in early October and that the team is expected to be named in late December.

Finally, the Canadian Press offered its opinion on which 14 players are most assured of spots on Team USA at the moment. Dustin Brown, Jonathan Quick and Rob Scuderi made the “cut,” but Jack Johnson did not.

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  • ianmonsta

    “Finally, the Canadian Press offered its opinion on which 14 players are most assured of spots on Team USA at the moment. Dustin Brown and Jonathan Quick made the “cut,” but Jack Johnson and Rob Scuderi did not.”

    Actually they did have Scuderi on that list, they just still have him listed as a Penguin.

  • Rich Hammond

    Thanks, Ian…

  • Crownme87

    I have a question.. At the Olympics is it full contact? Can Brown play his game at full potential or does he have to tone down the hits?

  • Model 62

    The Olympics are full contact. Depending on whether or not the ice in Vancouver is International size, he may have to tone it down in order to stay in position.

    So let’s work up a list.

    So far we’re pretty sure the following will be going to the Olympics:

    Dustin Brown
    Rob Scuderi
    Jonathon Quick

    Probables:
    Alexander Frolov (Russia)
    Anze Kopitar (Slovenia — will they make the tournament?)

    Possibles:
    Ryan Smyth (Canada)
    Michal Handzus (Slovakia)

    Moller and Doughty are probably too young/inexperienced to crack their National Rosters.

    Anybody else?

  • Quisp

    Ersberg?

  • adam

    I believe they will be playing on NHL size ice this time around for some reason. So let the Nasty Boys hit parade begin!

  • jet

    Adam — but that hurts JJs chances.

  • variable

    big fan of backes…i think he’s primed for a 75+ pt. season…

    if brown can play up to his potential this year skating on presumably the 2nd line/ pp1, he should be good for 30+/70+…

    kesler, another promising 2-way spark that could also put up 30/70 numbers…

    this is a great line…if they do play together…
    i still think the russians are just too deep and have so much fire power up front…it should be a great olympic tourney…

  • adam

    Jet-
    I do see that hurting JJ’s chances seeing how great he played in the World Championships on that open ice.

    But the defense is pretty deep looking down the list, I don’t think he’ll make it unless he has an amazing start to this season, which would be AWESOME.

    Though I think the smaller ice helps the US chances against the better skating teams like Russia and Sweden. The smaller surface works better for a “Burke style” team, which is what we’re getting.

  • darko25o

    ….is anyone else concerned about all our best players coming back for the rest of the season with Olympic hangovers????!!!! I wonder if this will play a part in Dean’s selections…

  • Paul from Oxnard

    @Model 62: I don’t believe Slovenia made it through Olympic qualifications, so I don’t think they’re in the tourney. Latvia however I think did make it in, so Ivanans might be playing for them.

  • PakiFro

    Ivanans is expected to play for Latvia

  • EJ

    Frankly, I don’t like NHL players involved in Olympic hockey. It’s very disruptive to the NHL season, and the potential for injury is worrisome, especially to a quality player. The regular season plus playoffs is already gruelling enough, especially when you throw in the travel schedules of West Coast teams. Hopefully, 2010 is the end of NHL participation.

  • 28 KINGS

    Speaking of Jack Johnson, I put together a new video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJP30gaf8YU

  • JonG

    darko25o,

    You bring up a good point, but I believe Dean is still looking two to three years down the road rather than focusing on this season. For that reason I think he will want as many Kings as possible playing in the Olympics.

  • Otto Ped

    EJ, I agree with you 100%. I would like to see an end to all professional athletes in the olympics

  • Model 62

    Wow. Ivanans is IN, Kopitar is OUT.

    I’ve narrowed the list to two categories, Probables and Possibles. Handzus is almost certain to play for Slovakia, so I bumped him up. Ryan Smyth probably won’t play for Canada, but you never know.

    Probables:
    Dustin Brown (USA)
    Rob Scuderi (USA)
    Jonathon Quick (USA)
    Alexander Frolov (Russia)
    Raitis Ivanans (Latvia)
    Michal Handzus (Slovakia)

    Possibles:
    Ryan Smyth (Canada)

  • Model 62

    Dave Taylor and Andy Murray probably agree with both of you, EJ and darko25o.

  • Winsomemore

    The ice will be NHL regulation, not international size. By doing that way it saves Vancouver $10 million in renovation costs.

  • jet

    adam — excellent point wrt Burke picking “his team” and it being a good fit for an NHL rink size. Also, probably why he was selected.

    28 Kings — thanks for coming back. The discussions are much more intelligent now. I hope you will continue to add your views.

  • nykingfan

    Having guys playing in the olympics is a double edge sword…
    the risk of injury versus the experience of top level international competition…..
    Tough call. You know every GM will be holding his breath during the Olympics hoping his guy isn’t the guy getting hurt. The odds say someone is going to get hurt…you just pray its not one of the Kings. That can basically put the kaybosh to our playoff hopes.
    I still want to see as many Kings playing in the olympics as possible.

    All in all it’s a great tournament, but I wish it could be done at a different time of year.

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/kings Smokiemcpot

    It would be good if it was at a different time of year but no one is going to move the olympics for the NHL. I think what we are going to see in the future is a complete pull-out of all NHL players from int’l competitions during the season (which has already been stated earlier).

    Also, seems like Burke really likes Brown. Good thing we got him locked for another five, although it does makes you wonder what Burke would give up for him.

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/kings Smokiemcpot

    It would be good if it was at a different time of year but no one is going to move the olympics for the NHL. I think what we are going to see in the future is a complete pull-out of all NHL players from int’l competitions during the season (which has already been stated earlier).

    Also, seems like Burke really likes Brown. Good thing we got him locked for another five, although it does makes you wonder what Burke would give up for him.

  • Paul from Oxnard

    Not related to Team USA, but if you’re like me you love opportunities to give Quacks fans grief:

    http://ducks.freedomblogging.com/2009/08/19/national-tv-ignores-ducks/17499/

    I posted a comment with a link to the Kings website. :D

  • darko25o

    Awesome video 28 Kings, thanks for sharing!

  • BakoCAcameraGuy

    28 KINGS:

    THAT was COOL!

    Just imagine if JFMJ finished bulking up this summer…

  • Pumpernicholl

    I am less concerned that JMFJ be “bulked up” since that aspect doesn’t seem to be a problem for him.

    I am more concerned that he be quicker and more mobile than he was to start last season. Let’s hope he trained for speed and quickness this summer and not just bulk.

  • QuickGold

    Granted this disrupts the NHL season, I think this experience is great for these guys! Hopefully they will be on their A-game throughout the tournament and bring that back home and share that enthusiasm with the rest of the team. Especially if we have 7 guys going like some are predicting, that’s huge! Injuries would be the only downside obviously, but I have a feeling our guys will fold their own.
    Also, great to see Scuderi already getting to know and practicing w/ our C and #1 goalie.

  • 54FIGHTING

    Agree with Pumpernicholl. I would also say that JJ should be on the Possible list since someone for every country is going to get injured/not play as well as expected.

    Can’t wait to see the Quick/Bernier battle in training camp. I’d like to see both stay with the big club and Ersberg in Manchester, but it won’t hurt if Bernier gets sent down since Manchester should be awesome this year.

  • BakoCAcameraGuy

    54Fighting and Pumpernicholl,

    I am equally concerned that SOMEONE has the wherewithal to clear the crease in front of the goalie, while not being a complete disaster with the puck. Puck-handling defensemen are less of a concern for this team than reasonably-sized bangers who are a bit chippie but still can pass and skate the puck out of the zone.

    As 28 KINGS’ video aptly demonstrates, JFMJ can do that job.

  • Chris Bond

    Money wise could the Kings afford Heatley? Without getting rid of one of our big guys?

  • 54FIGHTING

    Chris,

    Try capgeek or NHL numbers. The Kings are about 5 mil under the cap right now.

  • sparky

    Re: Chris Bond said:

    “Money wise could the Kings afford Heatley? Without getting rid of one of our big guys?”

    The answer to your question is maybe. NHL.com is reporting Heatley as a $7.5 mil. cap hit. If we sent someone to Ott. we’d move some salary as well. So the question is, can we move that much salary and more importantly do we want to for Heatley?

  • old man

    Kings28,Thanks for the video,if that doesn`t get you fired up for hockey nothing will.

  • Chris Bond

    I know that most dont agree, But if it ment Fro for him and some prospects even Hickey I think that is a yes!

  • darko25o

    I can’t believe the Press overlooked BOBBY RYAN in this release.

  • Krystoff

    I cannot wait to see DB23 in the USA jersey. No, not David Beckham, although he must be a Dustin fan.

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