March 2009 Archives
An era is over at Ayala High School, and this time it appears to be for good.
Tom Gregory, who has coached the boys basketball team every year since the school opened in 1990 except for one (when he resigned for the year) has been dismissed as coach by principal Mike Vaughn and replaced by Kenny Donovan, who was the JV coach and previously had been a head coach at Diamond Ranch and Azusa.
That whole story can be read in Saturday's paper.
But I wanted to address a couple of thoughts, not addressed in that story. One, should it have happened?
If it was about wins and losses, then definitely not. But Vaughn said it wasn't about that and was about "different philosophies." If that's true, then I can't say whether it should have happened. But it does help to have an administration and coach on the same page. Gregory mentioned that the "support system was different than what it was before." I took that to mean that he didn't feel like he had the administration's support. It's hard to coach without that support, especially in an environment like Ayala's. It's a shame it came to this, but maybe it was best for both parties. Although not necessarily best for the program and the kids.
Second, why did it happen?
Vaughn mentioned different philosophies, and maybe part of that is Vaughn's vision for the school. "We need to ask ourselves what do we expect from our students," Vaughn said. "If we set goals and they meet them, what do we do next? And if they're not succeeding, then we need to think what we're going to do to help them succeed." Vaughn didn't get real specific, but I could see how this vision could pertain to athletics. Maybe Vaughn felt Gregory wasn't motivating in the right way, or helping those lesser players like he should. When I asked Vaughn if Gregory was on board with this philosophy, he said. "maybe he was slow to respond to it."
Third, did parents have a role?
Possibly. It seems to be Vaughn's decision, but if every parent had supported Gregory, I'd be surprised if Gregory had been dismissed. Gregory said, "I will say this, the support from the majority of the parents and all the players has been incredible." Parents drove Gregory to step down seven years ago, then were the driving force to bring him back. I'd be surprised if they can get him back this time, especially with the current administration in charge.
Fourth, will Gregory coach again?
I get the impression he will. He wants to have a coaching avenue for his son Kyle, who has served as an assistant of his the last two years. And who knows, maybe it could be sooner rather than later. Gregory lives in Riverside so if he were to look at another coaching job, it would likely be between Chino Hills and Riverside. With about 20 years in the district, Gregory would take a big pay cut to teach elsewhere, but he might not have to worry about that because there won't be any teaching jobs elsewhere for next year. There might be more off-campus coaches in all sports at all schools, including boys basketball next year, so that might work out OK for him. But, it has to be a school on board with his "old school" style.
Fifth, how will Kenny Donovan do?
It helps that many of the parents know him and he knows the school and the atmosphere there. Because it is a high-pressure job. The honeymoon will be short, to be sure. As Donovan said on Friday, "I said to the kids, 'you have the easy job. Don't worry. If we lose a game, it's going to fall on me. You're not going to get blamed.'" When Gregory stepped down before, Ayala went 12-17 that season, ending a string of 10 consecutive CIF quarterfinal appearances. When Gregory returned, Ayala went back to the quarterfinals. 'I think he'll be fine," Gregory said of Donovan. "His approach and demeanor is much more of a fit for the school."
The Chino Pre-season Baseball Tournament championship, originally scheduled for March 17 but postponed due to air quality, is being made up Friday, March 27.
The schedule, for the games at Chino High School:
third place game, Corona vs. Damien, 3 p.m.
championship, Yucaipa vs. Chino, 6:30 p.m.
Admission is charged: Adults $3, Students $2, childen 12 and under free
Because of space restrictions in March 26 paper, the entire prep pride did not run in the Daily Bulletin.
Here it is:
PREP PRIDE
1) A parade and recognition in Congress are just two of the perks the Eisenhower boys basketball team is currently enjoying after winning the CIF State Division II championship last Friday.
"In my view, the kids deserve all this," coach Steve Johnson said. "A lot of this stuff is too much and I might just say, 'let's just go have our banquet and call it a season.' But it needs to all be about the kids in the end."
Johnson said there was an overwhelming amount of hospitality shown by their finals opponent, Rocklin, but there was also an overwhelming home-court advantage for Rocklin.
"We practiced at an elementary school in Rocklin (after) I had asked their AD for a place to shoot around, and they were very hospitable," Johnson said.
"A lot more (Ike) fans came up for the game than I expected. Our district was very supportive, with I think seven busses besides ours. But we probably had four or five hundred (fans) and they probably had seven or eight thousand."
Johnson said that a parade for the team is scheduled in the city of Rialto on April 11 at 11 a.m. The team was also recognized by Rep. Joe Baca (D-San Bernardino) in Congress recently.
"I know his kids went through Eisenhower," Johnson said. "That's really nice."
2) Laing Stevens is back. Again.
Stevens will begin his third tour of duty as Ontario Christian's football coach, following the resignation of his son, Chris, who had been the head coach since 2005.
Chris Stevens stepped down following news that his wife is pregnant with triplets and is due in August. Laing Stevens served as defensive coordinator at OCHS last year.
So Laing Stevens comes back to the school where he first served as a head coach from 1977-81, then returned to OCHS from 2002-04 after retiring from teaching from the Chino Valley Unified District (where he coached and served as athletic director at Ayala). He won a CIF title as a coach in 1978 and again in 2002.
"I guess I could say no, (but) I'm like that little rubber ball on the paddle that keeps coming back," Laing said.
Stevens, 66, is also returning to teaching at the school, although his duties are not completely decided.
With his 401K dwindling, Stevens decided he needed to find a job that was more than just coaching.
"I told Chris, 'I don't know if I can go back to OC (as a coach) unless they have a (teaching) job for me,'" Laing said. "But they found something.
"If I had my druthers, I'd be at OC, if not then coaching with Lou (Randall, a friend and coach)."
4) Chris Stevens went to a spread offense last year at OC to take advantage of the talents of QB Andrew Lachelt, but Laing Stevens is more of a wing-T offense coach, referring to it as, "wings and things."
Now, he'll be bringing the spread and wing-T into what he calls "spread your wings."
"I don't know if I came up with the term," Stevens said. "But I'll be taking the best of both offenses."
4) Etiwanda softball is off to a impressive start, with an 11-0 record and two tournament championships already.
"I've only got two seniors," Etiwanda coach Dave Masucci said. "This was supposed to be a rebuilding year. But I have three freshmen who aren't playing like freshmen, Melissa Taukieaho (3B-P), Jenna Isbel (OF) and Katelynn Rentschler (C)."
The latest victory was a 3-1, eight-inning victory over Riverside King on Saturday in the championship of the Jurupa Valley Tournament. Stephanie Tarango hit a walk-off, two-run homer for Etiwanda.
"I lost seven seniors from last year, but I had some freshmen last year, that probably were varsity players, but we kept them down to give them playing time," Masucci said. "Now, with all these freshmen, I've got like 10 or 11 girls fighting for spots. It's a nice problem."
5) The annual Cowbell Meet, pitting the swimming programs from the four Chino Valley Unified School District schools, was held last Friday at Ayala.
"It was a great night, and all of the other schools had larger team rosters," Ayala coach Bob Mount said. "It had a party atmosphere."
Ayala won the trophy for the 10th straight year. The boys scores were Ayala 201, Don Lugo 102, Chino Hills 89, and Chino 86. For the girls, Ayala won with 216, while Chino Hills had 106, Chino 88 and Don Lugo 80.
"Winning isn't the emphasis," he said. "It's to see the kids swim. It's not really a spectator-friendly sport."
There was an interesting article recently in Baseball America about the proposed shift from the California League to the Carolina League, most likely the Bakersfield Blaze and High Desert Mavericks. A lot was written about the situation last year, then when push came to shove, it didn't happen. And now it seems like it's a long way from happening for next year.
Here's the link to the story:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/business-beat/2009/267772.html
According to the story, economy seems to be a factor. It's being blamed for everything else, why not this?
Anyway, here's my take. The economy will need to improve enough so that one of the following three things happens first: 1) Bakersfield or Adelanto can make needed stadium upgrades or new stadiums, 2) A market opens up somewhere in California or 3) There are buyers able to purchase the franchises and move them to the Carolina League.
It's possible that one of these 3 things needs only to happen to one of the teams. If the ballpark situation improves for one to remain in the Cal League (at its current place or somewhere else), then the other will stay, because it will take 2 for a shift. But if one buyer can be found to go to the Carolina League, the other will surely follow, because as new Quakes (and current Mavericks owner) Bobby Brett said, "If we had Richmond (Virginia), we could have piecemealed one market. But piecemealing two (markets) was more of a challenge."
Both franchises have already been in limbo since last summer. How much longer will everyone be tortured?
Finally, maybe some due credit for this area in basketball.
For the entire history of the state championships -- the modern version since 1982 -- only one basketball program from the Inland Valley or San Bernardino County made the state championship game, the Chino girls in 1986. Chino lost in the Division II title game and no school since has made it that far, until the Eisenhower boys this year.
Friday night, Ike finished off the first basketball state championship in the area's history, with a 73-61 victory over Rocklin in the Division II championship at Arco Arena in Sacramento. Creighton-bound senior guard Andrew Bock scored 17 points, while Bryan Bock, Alex Varner and Nick Carter scored 11 points apiece. Ike just pulled away in the second half to defeat Rocklin for the second time this season. They overcame a 26-point, 19-rebound, 10-block effort by Rocklin's 6-10 UCLA-bound Brendan Lane.
Congratulations go out coach Steve Johnson and the Eagles. Your hard work and dedication has paid off.
It might've been the best high school basketball game (girls or boys) I've seen all season when fourth-seeded Colony upset top-seeded Cajon 59-56 in the CIF State Division I Southern Regional girls basketball semifinal on Thursday. Colony plays Long Beach Poly for a spot in the state finals on Saturday.
It's on par with the Ayala girls in the regional final last year, although that one had the added bit of it being a triple-overtime game.
So much happened, not everything made it into my story in Friday's paper.
For instance, both teams dealt with foul trouble. Cajon's Kori Walker had three fouls with more than three minutes to go in the first half. She picked up her fourth before the end of the third and fouled out in the game's final minute. She was not much of a factor.
"Because of the foul trouble, I substituted more than I usually do," Cajon coach Mark Lehman said. "We had some players in who didn't do what they were told to do."
Colony had foul trouble, too, as guard Rachel Taghaboni fouled out with 2:09 to play. But Taghaboni picked up four of her fouls in the second half and she wasn't really on the bench because of foul trouble. It only hurt Colony after she fouled out.
Cajon led 28-17 in the second quarter, but improved defensive pressure from Colony ended in a 10-2 run to end the half, cutting Colony's deficit to 30-27. Colony took its first lead of the game 35-34 on two free throws by Camille Buckley (16 points, 14 rebounds) with 5:07 to play in the third. Buckley didn't have her best game on the offensive end, making only five of 12 shots from the field, but worked hard on grabbing boards. Jazmyne White also scored 16 points.
Cajon led a couple of times after that, the last time when a basket by Layshia Clarendon (29 points, 8 rebounds) gave the Cowgirls a 49-46 lead with 4:08 to play. Colony scored the next five points, taking the lead for good at 51-49 on a Te'onna Campbell basket with 2:38 remaining.
Clarendon was 6-of-11 from the line in the fourth quarter, which interestingly enough was the first time she had gotten to the line in the game. In fact she was 4-of-9 from the line in the final 2:32, missing two free throws that would've given the Cowgirls the lead with 11.8 seconds to play.
As usual, there was a lot on the shoulders of seniors Clarendon and Darshae Burnside. Usually, that's not a problem. This time, against an excellent Colony team, it was too much.
Clarendon and Burnside scored 50 of Cajon's 56 points, while five players scored at least seven points for Colony, making up 56 of their 59 points.
"I have to give (assistant coach) Vince (Spirlin) a lot of credit," Colony coach Ed Taylor said. "He had seen them (Cajon) more, and he had a good game plan."
I just received the Baseball America Prospect Handbook, which makes me anxious for the start of the California League baseball season.
A few thoughts on the book, which includes the top 30 prospects for each organization (plus No. 31 in a special supplement)
--As for last year's 66ers, catcher Carlos Santana, who was traded to the Indians in the Casey Blake deal, is ranked as the Indians' No. 1 prospect. Blake helped get the Dodgers to the playoffs, but you can't help wonder if they'll regeret the move long-term.
Also, where is OF Tommy Giles on the Dodgers' list? He didn't make the top 30 even after batting .280 with 22 home runs and 100 RBI.
I was surprised that 3B Josh Bell moved up from No. 11 to No. 8 after missing the last three months with a kniee injury. RHP Chris Withrow at No. 9? He had control issues last year with a sore elbow and pitched only four innings.
--Looking at the 2008 Quakes, it's not surprising that OF Peter Bourjos (No. 9 to No. 3) and 1B Mark Trumbo (No. 29 to No. 8) moved up as high as they did on the Angels' list. I was surprised that RHP reliever David Herndon is only at No. 28, especially after he proved dominating following his switch from starting to relieving.
--As for the 2009 Sixers, don't expect to see No. 1 Dodgers prospect OF Andrew Lambo with the team, especially after he went from low-A to Double-A at the end of last season. Many of the prospects they'll see initially, will probably be players fans saw last year, No. 9 Withrow, No. 11 INF Austin Gallagher, No. 15 RHP Steven Johnson, and No. 29 RHP Josh Wall. Low Single-A Great Lakes was terrible last year, and No. 20 RHP Justin Miller (4-11, 3.99) and No. 27 OF Alfredo Siverio (.263, 10 HR, 45 RBI ) appear to be the top prospects from that team headed to San Bernardino this year.
--As they've had the last couple of seasons, it looks like the Quakes should have some of the Angels' top speed prospects in 2009, that includes No. 16 OF Clay Fuller (36 SB at low Single-A Cedar Rapids last year) and No. 22 SS Andrew Romine (62 SB). They'll also have their fair share of pitching prospects with No. 4 LHP Trevor Reckling (10-7, 3.37 ERA at CR) No. 10 RHP Mason Tobin (2-3, 3.13 at CR), and No. 20 LHP Robert Fish, a Miller HS product (10-4, 4.85 at CR).
Who's ready for baseball?
112: Richie Cascante, junior, San Gorgonio (8th at CIF-SS Masters)
Won 15-1, lost 7-3,. Lost 3-1 (did not place)
112: Sean Silva, junior,
Won pin 2:15, won 7-3, lost 10-2, won pin 2:43, won 1-0, lost 3-2, won pin (finished fifth)
125: Ryan Fillingame, senior, Sultana (1)
Won 9-4, won 9-2, won 12-10 OT, lost default, lost default (did not place)
130: Ray Rubio, senior, Silverado (6)
Won default, lost 4-0, lost 7-2 (did not place)
135: Chris Swayze, junior,
Lost 11-6, lost 5-2 (did not place)
135: Sean Regan, senior, Sultana (4)
Lost 4-2, won pin 4:52, won 7-2, lost 5-3 (did not place)
135: Alfredo Velazquez, senior, Miller (5)
Lost 16-8, lost 14-5 (did not place)
140: Jaime Jimenez, junior,
Lost 10-2, lost pin 5:38 (did not place)
145: Cody Bollinger, senior, Sultana (1)
Won 21-9, won tech. fall 25-8, won 11-7, lost 8-7, won 18-11, won 4-3 (finished third)
145: Joey Lemond, senior,
Won 6-5, lost 5-1, won 8-4, lost 4-2 (did not place)
152: Christopher Sloat, junior, Hesperia (8)
Lost tech. fall 17-0, lost 9-2 (did not place)
160: Darrin Duncan, senior,
Lost pin 3:38, won default, lost 6-1 (did not place)
171: Jeremy Fillingame, Sr., Sultana (7)
Lost 5-4, lost 8-3 (did not place)
189: Danny Reyes, Sr., Hesperia (4)
Won 6-3, lost 10-2, lost 7-5 (did not place)
189: Kenny Breaux, Sr., Carter (6)
Lost 3-2, lost 14-4 (did not place)
215: Andrew Hudson, Jr.,
Won 7-3, won 7-5 3 OT, lost pin 1:49, won 2-1 2 OT, lost 10-4, lost pin 2:06 (finished eighth).
215: Mike Joromat, Sr., Silverado (5)
Lost 9-5, lost 7-3 (did not place)
Hwt: Manuel Mazariegos, Jr., Sultana
Won pin 2:51, won 3-0, lost 6-3, lost 4-1 (did not place)
Sultana's Cody Bollinger battled back after losing in the semis Saturday to take third at the CIF State Championships in Bakersfield.
Redlands East Valley junior Andrew Hudson took eighth at 215 pounds and Barstow junior Sean Silva was fifth at 112 pounds.
Sultana senior 145-pounder Cody Bollinger was ranked No. 3 in the state in his weight class and was facing No. 2-ranked Alex Rodriguez of Fresno Washington Union in the semifinals of the CIF State Wrestling Championships Saturday morning in Bakersfield.
Predictably it was close.
But an 8-4 deficit in the third period was too much for Bollinger to overcome, and Rodriguez held on for an 8-7 victory.
Bollinger still has a chance to finish as high as third.
A total of four San Bernardino County wrestlers made it to Day 2 of the competition.
After getting pinned in the quarterfinals Friday night, Redlands East Valley's Andrew Hudson (215) came back with a double-overtime, 2-1 win over Hunter Baird of Palma in the first round of consolation Saturday to secure a spot in the top 8.
Like Hudson, Barstow's Sean Silva (112) lost in the quarterfinals but came back to win his first match Saturday, via pin over Aaron LaFarge of La Habra to make the top 8.
It was not as good a day for Bollinger's teammate, Ryan Fillingame (125). Fillingame had to default from his quarterfinal match because of a migraine headache. He then defaulted his first match Saturday and was eliminated. At this point, I'm not sure if Fillingame defaulted because he still had the migraine or if it was for the other reason coach Rocky Humphrey said was a possibility on Friday. That he would have to hydrate too much to get rid of the migraine that he might not be able to make weight Saturday morning.
The High Desert brought a strong contingent, but was largely left licking its wounds after the first day of the CIF State Championships in Bakersfield.
Sultana brought five wrestlers, and had two make it to Saturday, both ranked third in their weight classes. And there was some tough luck involved, as Ryan Fillingame (125) was forced to default his quarterfinal match because of a migraine. Coach Rocky Humphrey said the first priority is to get him hydrated and feeling better. Then, with more water in his system, the issue might be whether Fillingame can make weight Saturday morning.
The news is better for Cody Bollinger (145), who will wrestle second-ranked Alex Rodriguez of Fresno Washington Union in the semifinals Saturday morning.
Sultana, the CIF-SS Masters team champion last week, is only 20th in the team standings, but could be 12th if Fillingame had won his quarterfinal match by just a minor decision.
Hesperia's two qualifiers both were eliminated, including 189-pounder Danny Reyes, who was eighth last year.
Silverado's two wrestlers didn't make it to day 2, same as Victor Valley.
Barstow 112-pounder Sean Silva (who also qualified last year) lost in the quarterfinals, but remains alive Saturday. He'll need to win his first match Saturday to secure a spot in the top eight.
Redlands East Valley's Andrew Hudson wrestled well, but was pinned by the top-ranked wrestler at 215 pounds in the quarterfinals and like Silva, will have to win his first match today to secure a medal. He did much better than the Citrus Belt League's other two qualifiers: Miller's Alfredo Velazquez and Carter's Kenny Breaux, who each lost their first two matches.
San Gorgonio's Richie Cascante won his first match, but lost his next two.
As for those in the West End of San Bernardino County, in the Inland Valley, it was a rough day. Rancho Cucamonga's Joey Lemond lost in the final round of consolation on Friday and was eliminated. Ontario's Jaime Jimenez did not make it that far.
It marks the first year since 2001 the Inland Valley will not have a state placer.
Barstow's Sean Silva (112), and Sultana's Ryan Fillingame (125) and Cody Bollinger (145) and REV's Andrew Hudson won their third round matches to advance to the quarterfinals on Day 1.
Winners in the championship quarterfinals Friday, will ensure themselves a top-six finish.
Fillingame had to recover after blowing an 8-4 lead in the third round to win 12-10 in overtime.
It took Hudson eight minutes and six seconds to defeat Noel Gomez of Cesar Chavez HS in the last overtime, 7-5 in his third round match.
Silverado's Ray Rubio, who had a first-round bye, then won by default in the second round, lost 4-0 in the third round. Rancho Cucamonga's Joey Lemond, who defeated the No. 5-ranked wrestler in his first 145-pound match in the second round, then lost 5-1 to La Costa Canyon's Tim Randall in the third round. He'll need to win twice more tonight to make to Saturday's competition. Hesperia's Danny Reyes, and Sultana's Manuel Mazariegos lost their third round matches and remained alive in consolation.
Unranked wrestler Joey Lemond of Rancho Cucamonga had to face the fifth-ranked wrestler in the state at 145 pounds in his first match on Friday (in the second round), but pulled off the upset, by a 6-5 score over Sac-Joaquin Section runner-up Taylor Hodel of Vacaville
San Gorgonio's Richie Cascante and Barstow's Sean Silva (112), Sultana's Ryan Fillingame (125), Silverado's Ray Rubio (130), Sultana's Cody Bollinger (145), Hesperia's Danny Reyes (189), REV's Andrew Hudson (215) and Sultana's Manuel Mazariegos (Hwt) have yet to lose and are in the third round so far on Friday.
However, Miller's Alfredo Velasquez and Ontario's Jaime Jimenez were among those eliminated after losing their first two matches. Jimenez was pinned despite leading 8-6 in the third period of his consolation match.
On the eve of the 2009 state wrestling championships in Bakersfield, here's a look at some of the prospects. This is just the first blog entry. Stay tuned for more live blogging from Bakersfield.
In the San Bernardino County and Inland Valley, here are the wrestlers who are ranked in the state entering the meet.
112: Barstow's Sean Silva (6th); 125: Sultana's Ryan Fillingame (3rd); 145: Sultana's Cody Bollinger (third); 189: Hesperia's Danny Reyes (8th); and 215: Redlands East Valley's Andrew Hudson (fifth).
Wrestlers facing ranked opponents in their first match:
135: Victor Valley's Chris Swayze vs. No. 7 Kevin Maelfeyt of Trinity; 145: Rancho Cucamonga's Joey Lemond, vs. No. 5 Taylor Hodel of Vacaville; 152: Hesperia's Christopher Sloat, vs. No. 5 Travis Gallegos of Palo Cedro Foothill (if Gallegos wins his first match); 160: Victor Valley's Darrin Duncan vs. No. 1 Stephen West of Clovis Buchanan.
Best draws: Ryan Fillingame, who won't face another ranked wrestler, No. 2 or No. 6 in the semifinals at the earliest if he keeps winning; Bollinger, who has a similar draw to Fillingame except with a first-round bye and won't face another ranked wrestlers, No. 2, 5 or 6 until the semifinals at the earliest; and Carter's Kenny Breaux (189), who, if he keeps winning, wouldn't face a ranked wrestler until the quarters, when he could face No. 3 or No. 7.
Tough draws, other than those with ranked first opponents: Reyes, whio is ranked eighth, but would face No. 1 seed Ian Daube of Poway in the third round, and Hudson, who is ranked fifth, but would have to get past No. 1 seed Nick Pica of Concord in the quarterfinals.
wrestlers who might do better than their rankings: Richie Cascante of San Gorgonio (112), won four straight times in consolation last week, then defaulted twice and finished a misleading eighth. Lemond, who might be able to surprise someone with an unorthodox move, and Breaux and Reyes at 189, who both have the potential to move up.
It's no secret that Montclair has not had a lot of athletic success in recent years.
Yet the Cavaliers' boys soccer team played in front of a boisterous crowd at home in a CIF-SS semifinal game on Tuesday, one step away from playing in a CIF title game.
But it was not to be.
Montclair was denied a trip to the finals with a 2-1 overtime loss to Thermal Coachella Valley. According to our records, it would've been Montclair's first appearance in a team title contest since 1985 when the girls soccer team tied Ganesha 2-2 to share a CIF title.
Although it's a different format, the wrestling team did finish third in the individual tournament in 2008, one spot away from being runner-up.
Maybe things are turning around athletically for Montclair, which clearly had a student body ready to cheer on their classmates on Tuesday. It's the kind of thing that makes it exciting around campus.
I know I'm weird, but I love the intrigue of releaguing for the area high schools.
There will be plenty of changes this time around for the Mt. SAC Area (I-605 to I-15), one of which seems to be a done deal is Claremont out of the Baseline League and going to a league perhaps the same level as the Miramonte League.
The question is, what school will take Claremont's place. The other teams in the league aren't going to be thrilled with a five-team league. They want a sixth. One proposal I've seen has Chino Hills taking that sixth spot. Geography wise, that's not a good fit.
I thiink Damien/St. Lucy's would be a better fit, although Baseline schools might not be thrillled. Glendora might make sense, but the Tartans want relief from the Sierra League, not a move up or at least a parallel move to the Baseline. So they won't be thrilled. It will be interesting to see. The next meeting is this week. Stay tuned ...
