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Here's my problem. I need a calendar app that rudely beeps to tell me when to go to meetings and such.

In Ubuntu, that means the Evolution mail client, which has an extensive calendar function, or so I'm told.

But I don't run Evolution. I use Thunderbird to manage my mail, and Thunderbird doesn't have a calendar function ... or does it?

Allow me to digress briefly: I first tried the Orage calendar app from Xfce, which I already have on this Ubuntu box because I have Xfce (but not the full Xubuntu) on it. But Orage, while working generally well for what I need it to do, for some reason is incapable of playing sounds to alert me to ... my alerts.

I did a bunch of Googling, checked bug reports. Nothing about Orage and a lack of sound in Ubuntu.

So I moved on.

I learned about Mozilla's Sunbird project, which is a full-fledged calendering app, and I also learned that there is a Thunderbird add-on called Lightning (Thunderbird and Lightning ... get it?) that brings Sunbird's calendar features to the Mozilla mail client.

Well, I downloaded the add-on, added it to Thunderbird ... and I was unable to create an event. Full stop.

So I backtracked. I removed the add-on and did what I should have done in the first place: I went through the Synaptic Package Manager and added the lightning-extension package, which brings along with it the calendar-timezones and calender-google-provider packages. (Presumably this means Google's calendar can somehow feed off of this ... I'll explore that later.)

I'll repeat for the West Coast audience: If you're running Thunderbird in Ubuntu, downloading and installing the Lightning calendar add-on from Mozilla won't work. Instead use the version in Ubuntu's repository.

Since I generally run Thunderbird all the time for my mail, having my calendar/alerts in there is the perfect solution.

Once I installed the three packages, I started Thunderbird. Right away the app asked whether or not I wanted to import my calendar settings from Evolution. Since I have nothing there, I declined.

Once in Thunderbird, I had Lightning. It works. I did a test event, sound worked, and I'm ready to start creating recurring events and alerting myself to their imminence (and/or eminence).

All this makes me think about the huge value we as users get from Mozilla. I'm waiting for music-manager/iTunes-killer Songbird to get better, and I'm already benefiting from Sunbird in the form of Lightning. ... and that's all on top of Thunderbird and Firefox. Very nice, indeed.

The quick version: To add calendar functionality to Thunderbird in Ubuntu, don't add Mozilla's Lightning add-on directly. Instead, add it through Ubuntu's own repositories, in my case using Synaptic to add the lightning-extension package and its dependencies. Then you'll be calendar-ready in Thunderbird.

The take-away: Don't want to use Evolution (I prefer a true cross-platform application for e-mail, and Thunderbird fits that bill very well) but want calendar functionality in your mail client? Thunderbird and Lightning seem to play well together.

Follow along: Developers of Sunbird and Lightning update things at the Calendar Weblog.

The fact that Mozilla's Thunderbird e-mail client has no built-in way to export the whole of a user's mail from one installation to another is as close to a fatal flaw as can be for a class of application — the stand-alone mail client — as can be.

Now that I've had a week or so since I started trying to move mail from one box to another, I've learned that there are a couple of plugins out there for Thunderbird that supposedly help you do this.

Even so, the consensus appears to be that you need to just pull the whole nested-directory mess over from one installation to the next. The problem for me is that I don't have access to the proper directory on my Windows box, so I'll have to do it with a Linux live CD).

Would it kill the developers to embed export functionality into Thunderbird? Would that be so terrible, allowing users to have a little control and freedom when it comes to how they access their own e-mail?

You can easily import messages into Thunderbird (Tools -- Import in the menu). For the sake of freedom and sanity, it should be just as easy to export out of the app.

Is there a reason Thunderbird doesn't include export? I'd sure like to know.

Time's short, so I'll hit the high points:

• The fix for all the problems I was having in Opera 9.51 (the Linux version) in OpenBSD was easy. All I had to do was change from asynchronous DNS lookup to synchronous. I even reinstalled Flash for Opera. Regarding the fix, l'll elaborate later.

• Now that I can run Opera, I've been using this circa-2002-03 Toshiba Satellite 1100-S101 laptop (1.3 GHz Celeron) for just about all of my daily work. The laptop's running great, with excellent performance from OpenBSD 4.4 itself and its default Fvwm window manager.

• I wanted to change from IMAP to POP for one of my main e-mail accounts. I had been using Thunderbird in Windows with IMAP. That worked pretty well, but in OpenBSD, I wanted to use POP and have all the mail on the hard drive.

  Either Thunderbird itself, or the entire POP protocol, won't go into nested folders on an IMAP server and grab everything. At least it didn't in my case. So I tried to bring all those IMAP folders onto the local drive en masse. That didn't work so well. I suspect the server won't stay connected long enough to move many hundreds of messages at a time.

  I'm sure I lost quite a few messages, but I also have many hundred that I'll try to move from one Thunderbird installation to the other.

  Knowing what I know now, it would have been better to get EVERYTHING in order on the first Thunderbird installation and then move the entire "profile" over to the second PC. As it stands now, I'll have to figure out how to tap those exact folders/directories and move them over individually. The Thunderbird menus aren't much help with this. Thunderbird needs a robust backup utility built into it.

• In 768 MB of RAM, I'm running tons of apps at once. I can run Opera, OpenOffice, Thunderbird, the GIMP, Pidgin and Firefox and still not swap to disk. I don't think that's so unusual, but usual or not, it's pretty nice. In my world, 768 MB is a lot of RAM, and I'm glad to find out that it's more than enough to do my work.

• Before I figured out how to fix Opera, I rolled out an identical Toshiba laptop with Ubuntu 8.04. That installation went perfectly fine. No problems at all. That laptop has 256 MB of RAM at the moment, and during the 300+ package update after the initial install, there was a whole lot of swapping. Have you noticed in Debian and Ubuntu that the package management uses as many resources as you can throw at them? The machine was unusable during the long update (for which I ran the Update Manager in GNOME).

  You don't have to roll in 300 packages every day, month ... or just about ever, so that's an unusual circumstance.

  I'll keep the Ubuntu laptop at the ready in case I need it for video editing (a task I'm not sure can be done in OpenBSD; if anybody can point me to a package or port, I'd be grateful).

  But for now, the OpenBSD Toshiba is cranking along very nicely. Who knew you could squeeze so much computing goodness out of 1.3 GHz of processing power.

I hate to be down on Thunderbird, which I use as my default mail client in Windows XP. But today I turn on the box, start Thunderbird, and things don't go well.

Since I have two IMAP accounts plus local folders set up in Thunderbird, I use the "Master Password" feature so I don't have to enter passwords for each of my accounts, and I figure I'm adding some measure of security that way.

I type in my Master Password when prompted.

It doesn't work.

I type it in about 10 more times.

Still nothing.

So I try to CHANGE or get rid of the Master Password. It seems that you can't do that without knowing the Master Password in the first place.

Are my local folders locked forever? Will I have to completely reinstall Thunderbird?

Answers: No and no.

It is possible to remove the Master Password without knowing it:

If you have lost or forgotten your Master Password or you want to disable the feature, you can reset your master password. Upon resetting, you will lose all the stored information in the Password Manager as this is a built-in security feature to prevent people from simply resetting your Master Password to gaining access to your passwords.

Thunderbird 2: Choose Tools - Error Console, paste the expression: openDialog("chrome://pippki/content/resetpassword.xul") and press the Evaluate button. That will open a dialog asking you if you want to reset your password.

Sure enough, that worked. I reset my Master Password, but I'm still in the dark as to why Thunderbird broke in the first place.