Week 7 football: More 'toss-up' games to deal with

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Get used to it.
The rest of the season isn't going to be easy pick'ens for prognostigators. The Del Rio League balance is scary but exciting, and isn't that the way it should be?
And La Mirada's and Montebello's up-again, down-again performances are tough to figure.
And is La Habra the only sure thing the rest of the way?

Up to date:
Roger Murray: Last week - 6-4; Season 55-15
Andrew Campa: Last week - 5-5; Season 47-23

This week's picks:
Tonight's game:

El Rancho vs. La Serna, at California HS: Murray (La Serna), Campa (El Rancho)
Friday's games:
California vs. Santa Fe, at Pioneer HS: Murray (Santa Fe), Campa (Santa Fe)
Crespi at St. Paul: Murray (Crespi), Campa (Crespi)
Pioneer vs. Whittier, at California HS: Murray (Whittier), Campa (Whittier)
La Habra vs. Sunny Hills, at Buena Park HS: Murray (La Habra), Campa (La Habra)
Montebello at Schurr: Murray (Schurr), Campa (Schurr)
Bellflower at La Mirada: Murray (La Mirada) Campa (La Mirada)
Downey Calvay Chapel vs. Whittier Christian, at Whittier College: Murray (Whittier Christian), Campa (Whittier Christian)
Saturday's game:
Cantwell Sacred Heart vs. St. Monica, at St. Bernard HS: Murray (Cantwell), Campa (Cantwell)


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chs,

I bet you if Cal had him throw more he would get pretty close.

Proud LS Parent said:

Was curious about QB for Cal & LS, went to MaxPreps and here's what they show:
Harris for 7 games:
Carries 29, Yrds 123, TD 1
Pass Rating 61, TD 10 INT 32 Completion % .392
Att. 79 Comp 31 Fumbles 1

Burke for 6 games (ER not posted yet)
Carries 28, Yrds 184, TD 3
QB Rating 115
TD 11
INT 2
Compeletion % .523
Att 88, Comp 46, Fumbles 0

As for the Stat Comparison
Rushing yrds: Cal 210 LS 207
Passing Cal 77, LS 163
Total yrds Cal 288, LS 370
Tackles: Cal 56, LS 69
Sacks: Cal 2, LS 1
Points: Cal 33, LS 34

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its says drew threw 28 int in one game thats bs

Cal Fan said:

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We will take our QB. I'm not here on this site saying he is the best in the DRL. I'm not sure where that is coming from? I did say he is a tough SOB and we will go with him. The kid likes to hit.

32 interceptions, 4 per game. I don't think so.

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I dont know if the La Serna Fan stats are correct, but you see I am not the only one that thinks Drew Harris is probably the most overrated player in the DRL...I know one of those stats is correct and that is that he only completes 39% of his passes...and ya high school players drop balls but he mainly misses wide open receivers.

O and good luck against La Serna, I am picking Cal to win that game because Harris is better free safety than last year and your D-Line and Linebackers play solid defense...The game will be won in the trenches and I think that your running backs and O-line will wear down the LS defense...one more thing dont let Harris throw so much

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We will see you Friday night.

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You cant compare the talent pool at el rancho to la serna. Let's face it, we have the better athletes and the better coaches. El rancho's freshman were lucky the score was kept so tight. Our freshman last year lost at el rancho but it was mainly due to that tailback that seemed to slip through every tackle and that hard nosed fullback. Those two are probably the best young football athletes i've seen at el rancho in a while. I didnt see them at the J.V game, are they on varsity?

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Yes I was at the freshmen game. I have watched ER's freshmen play all season, that was not our best, it was our worse game, we played alot better against St Paul which up to that point had been our only loss this season. I dont understand the logic, how can you consider a 5 or 6 turnover game a good game for any team, ER should have won that game going away. Heck if we had only turned the ball over 3 times we win that game easily. Last season our freshmen team won league, alot of the starters on that team are on varsity as backups and are not playing JV this year, if they would have played on JV our JV would have won, but ohh well honestly it doesnt really matter to me. If you still dont realize that ER had the worse Varsity coaching staff in the league the past 5 years then you are completely clueless when it comes to DRL or area football. The ranch is back and the foundation is being layed for a huge program, just wait and see. This league is still not over, there are 3 games left and alot of things can still happen.

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For everyone saying that Drew Harris is good quarterback for Cal Hi and he finds his receivers (what a joke) according to maxpreps (because for some reason the Whittier Daily doesn't post stats anymore)Drew Harris is 31 for 79 throwing 39% completions has 10 TD passes and 32 INTERCEPTIONS. This has to be a CIF or even state record - after 7 games a QB having more picks then completions. This is unheard of, put in your freshman QB and he doens't throw 32 picks. But Cal fans say he finds receivers, he's practically playing QB for the other team. All I can say is awful and if he gets anything like 1st or 2nd team or all area, it should only be for defense, but he's scared at free safety too (This kid's name shouldn't even be mentioned in the paper, he is totally overated). Let's see him tackle Rudy Jordan in the open field this week. He'll probably break an ankle.

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El Rancho,

Were you at the freshman game that was 24-20? Because if you were you would keep your mouth shut, La Serna absolutely played their worst game and El Rancho played their best game and they still won. Their running attack got shut down the entire game they only way they scored were on deep passes when they were like 4th and 20 and their lucky our safety missed judged the ball twice or they would have been easy interceptions (like I said we played our worst game ever). But hey you can try and make it sound like the talent pool isn't changing, but you'll just see how we'll continue winning and you'll continue losing. At all levels. By the way our freshman class is solid. And just a side note, El Rancho always has pretty descent freshman teams, I recall them winning a few league titles recently, but whats happens when they get to varsity?? I don't know if your going to try and blame the coaching because it has been like that for a long time at least 10 years, and thats a handful of different coaches.

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Another thing, where is that vaunted fan support. If not for the marching band last week, the stands would of looked empty... Oh yeah they did.

Cal Fan said:

Anonymous

It's hard to argue with that. Got a little fired up. That was out of line.

Remember the good ol' days said:

Cal Fan:

With fans like you talking trash, don't really need to worry about the others!

Guess no one saw the passes that hit the receivers in the hands and were dropped?

Difference in the offense is Robert Arriola, Craig Taylor, and Richie Juarez--all could catch the ball!

LAPreps said:

Fan:

No touchdown is meaningless. Why did ER go for two late in the fourth? Uhm, I dont know, maybe because they needed points! And they could...and it was successful...

That has nothing to do with a team up over 20 points well into the fourth quarter and still trying to rack up points by passing the ball, instead of running to ensure that the clock continues to run....I was curious as to why they would do that?

In my experience it does no goood to evaluate lower level teams to determine the future of a program. Most of the time it just doesnt pan out, for whatever reason, kids moving, transfers, new coaches, quitters, etc., etc...

Anyhow, good luck to La Serna, Cal should be a piece of cake!

~LAP

N-ON-E-MUS said:

Mr. Hank-

Oaks Christian: smaller enrollment than St. Paul; brand new school----WIN STATE!
How did they do it? They recruited and attracted great players from all over. That's what St. Paul and Whittier Christian are trying to do. They have the ability to recruit so just do it. I agree with LAPREPS, one day, I hope these two schools can compete with D1 schools, like in the days of Haden-McKay, Paul McDonald, etc. I believe St. Paul is getting there with the recent recruits. They should be Football 'U' pretty soon. No disagreement. LAPREPS indicated that Cantwell's focus on academics vs. athletics may hinder their progress.

Sorry for the confusion, but I believe we agree. St. Paul will be playing at a higher level soon.

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To Calfan-

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Thanks.

big Unk said:

tough loss SP.again it looks as if the defense did their part.I guess we are going to hear how their QB was out and that was the difference but what about this outstanding ground game that was hyped all preseason.Keep up the good work Coach Jimenez maybe the minds on the otherside of the ball will reach your level of football knowledge.See SP fan I give credit where credit is due.

Cal Fan said:

hsfootballfan

The point is, if we had a weak offensive scheme, how did the recievers get wide open for the QB to miss?

Either the scheme was weak OR the QB can't make the throw. It can't be both.

Defense wins in the playoffs. We will have to be balanced in order to go deep. One game at a time & our QB will get better on his throws. He is a very good & hard hitting safety. He just needs to keep his mouth shout & let his playing do the talking.

elrancho said:

No team can spot another team 21-0 points to start the game and finally wake up and expect to win, that will be way too much to overcome. Late in the third ER was down 24-10 and was moving the ball, then the drive stalled and we punted the ball away and thats when Jordan broke and pretty much buried us. Horrible field position plus turnovers deep in our own territory in the first quarter was just way to much to overcome. Yes La Serna did beat us on all 3 levels, but I seriously dont think the talent pool is changing, ER must have turned the ball over 5 or 6 times in that freshmen game, the score ended 24-20.

Ryan said:

To L.A. preps I'm not a La Serna fan by the way. I was just amazed you saw things from them that make you think they can win out.

The Fan said:

Hey LA Preps,
El Rancho was down by 28 points late in the game and El Rancho scores a meaningless TD and they go for 2 with two minutes to go? Are you kidding me? The game was more than just field position, but good luck the rest of the way you are going to need it against Whittier. By the way, LS beat you at all three levels. I think the talent pool is changing.

Hank said:

To: N-ON-E-MUS

Your argument is still weak. I'm saying amongst private schools (based on enrollment) SP should be playing in Div 10/11, which last time I checked was lower than DRL's Div 7. If you want to talk about Oaks Christian, the only reason they are in Div 10/11 is because they are a brand new school. You'll see in the coming years, when CIF realigns, that they'll be moved up to the proper division. You also proved my point regarding enrollment when you said if it was based on enrollment the public schools would play Div 1, and they do (LB Poly and Lakewood). And lastly, nobody is asking you to feel sorry for SP, they're doing just fine.

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Cal Fan,

you must have not been at the game watching the same qb, luckily you have those running backs and a good o-line bc you know it your qb missed some open receivers, you cant win a much longer qb that has completed less than 40% of his passes for the year...be serious guy and stop kidding yourself, he is just not that good of qb and not very mobile...be serious and not so biased...and your offensive scheme just revovles around handing the football off from shotgun, you wont beat better teams like that in the playoffs...good luck

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hsfootballfan

A weak offensive scheme & a QB missing wide open recievers? Did you really put those two in the same paragraph?

C'mon Einstien, stop making yourself look stupid.

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Regarding enrollments at Private schools. There is something to be said about the "tradition" of the school, and the reasons why students attend. Cantwell and ST. Paul both have roughly the same amount in terms of enrollment. The difference is, that students go to Cantwell mostly for academics, and those that go to St. Paul usually do so because of athletics. In fact, somewhere near 40% of the boys enrollment at St. Paul is on one of the three football teams. Majority of whom attend there in order to play football.

I do hope one day St. Paul can compete with the Division I schools. I think that is why they are trying to attract players outside this area...Good luck to the Swordsmen!

LAPreps said:

Ryan,

I dont take anything away from La Serna. They are a solid team. Mistakes will hurt you, mistakes deep in your end of the field, will KILL U! El Rancho gave the game away in the first quarter, playing their worst game to date. It is true that they struggled to run the ball, I did mention that in a previous post, La Serna benefitted from playing a wing-t team the week before.

I was impressed with El Rancho's passing in the 2nd half. Javier Hernandez passed for more yards than Ben Burke. Of course La Serna didnt need to pass the ball as they had a commanding lead...

Which begs the question...
Why was it that La Serna continued to pass the ball on 1st down well into the fourth quarter when they were leading by more than 20?

It was 1st and 10 on the 50 yard line with around 9 minutes left in the game, and Burke passed it to #1 for a 30-yard gain. Was this necessary?

Just curious! Good luck against Cal...U should beat them!

~LAP

N-ON-E-MUS said:

To Mr. Hank-

Re: Enrollment

I'm in agreement with you. St. Paul and Whittier Christian have small enrollments and can play in the 'big' leagues. These schools can recruit and provide scholarships (I believe it's categorized as financial hardship). There is nothing wrong with that.
That's why St. Paul can play in D3. Enrollment is overrated because of the geographic area that the private schools can draw from. Many of the public schools that you cited have enrollments that are twice the size of the D1 schools like Amat, Notre Dame, Bosco, Mater Dei, etc. If it's just based on enrollment size, the public schools should be playing D1. My main point is that it's not a good argument to continually state that St. Paul or Whittier Christian has such a small pool of players to choose from and therefore everyone should feel sorry for them. It's sounds too much like an excuse. They have good programs. As I stated before, you only field 11 at a time. Go out and find the best 11 for both sides of the ball. Oaks Christian has a smaller enrollment than St. Paul and they did that. Didn't they win State last year?
Thanks for helping me make my point!

Ryan said:

Sorry L.A. Preps but you must be an El Rancho fan. What have u seen this season from El Rancho that makes you think they are going to win out? El Rancho has beat nobody good this season as a matter of fact Montebello and Cerritos are outright horrible and Santa Fe is not playing well. I was at the La Serna vs. El Rancho game and I saw a team completely out matched. They couldn't run the ball what so ever. Last time I checked the wing-t is a running offense. They will be lucky if they beat Pioneer.

SP fan said:

SP90-

#13 is an outstanding defensive player that contributes largely to the success of SP's defensive scheme. He made many key stops this week against Crespi; to say he's an embarrassment to SP football is absurd. He plays with a high energy level, which every team needs. To jump in excitement after a great play is not bad sportsmanship, its football. Stop whining. Enjoy the game and stop criticizing the kids.

Hank said:

To: N-ON-E-MUS
(here's a post from Jan 07')

Let's talk about enrollments because it does matter.

St. Paul has an enrollment of 690 students (coed) with girls making up the majority. Let's take a look at the other private schools in the area....

Bishop Amat 1,520 (coed) D1
Alemany 1,424 (coed) D3 - Mission League
Loyola 1,214 (all boys) D1
Notre Dame 1,163 (coed) D1
Damien 1,135 (all boys) D2
Chaminade 1,101 (coed) D3 - Mission League
St. John Bosco 1,071 (all boys) D1
Don Bosco Tech 982 (all boys) D10
Harvard-Westlake 836 (coed) D10
Paraclete 785 (coed) D11
La Salle 740 (coed) D11
Valley Christian 706 (coed) D11

St. Paul 690 (coed) D3 - Mission League

St. Francis 674 (all boys) D3 - Mission League
Los Angeles Baptist 658 (coed) D11
Cantwell 650 (coed) D11
Cathedral 640 (all boys) D10
Oaks Christian 626 (coed) D10
Village Christian 625 (coed) D11

What do the numbers say? It says that St. Paul has been able to compete against schools with 2-3 times their enrollment of boys. St. Paul has less than 350 boys attending school. If it wasn't for their rich tradition in athletics they probably could make a good arguement for playing the likes of those in D10 and D11. IMO, it won't be long till enrollment increases again and they'll be back in D1.

If you want to bring up the Orange County schools; Mater Dei 2,400 (coed), Orange Lutheran 1,100 (coed), Servite 808 (all boys), Rancho Santa Margarita 1,646 (coed)... oh and don't forget LB Poly 4,835, Lakewood 4,337, and Downey 3,792.


information per website: http://www.laalmanac.com/education/ed15.htm

sidenote: DRL Enrollments

El Rancho: 3,053
Cal: 2,791
Santa Fe: 2,724
Whittier: 2,324
La Serna: 2,074
Pioneer: 1,862

per www.schoolsk-12.com

Also, Whittier Union does have an open enrollment policy. So, for example, we'll see kids who are supposed to go to Pioneer end up at Santa Fe, Cal, etc. I'd suggest next time doing a little research!

hsfootballfan said:

cal mom,

ummm, nobody cried, this year or last year...get over it, your coaches and adminstration messed up and unfortunatly your team suffered the consequences. o well...By the way, way to go way to beat SF when they suck, from what alot of people saw was a weak offensive scheme from Cal, a weak pass protection, a horrible qb(although he is a good free safety), but i dont wanna take anything away from your Running attack is very good and tough and your defense is also very good, but honestly you wont go far in the playoffs, if your QB keeps missing wide open receivers and throws to a bunch of grass. good luck on winning the DRL this year im sure you are so proud this year on beating SF on a fair field with NO TRANSFERS this year

great job. you deserve a pat on the back...lol

La Serna Fan said:

LA Preps,
I really think your crazy! If the situaiton was switched and Madrid broke away and Jordan was playing safety or corner, he would of caught him guaranteed. If you knew football it's always easier to catch someone when they break away, I've seen some really fast players get caught because of angles and trying to juke and a slower player get a better jump on them. But if they ran a 40 or 100, the guy that got caught would easily win. If Jordan and Madrid raced it wouldn't even be close (Jordan would kill him), I bet you life on it! Nice try though! And how many break away touchdown runs or receptions did Madrid have??? Oh none. But he's so fast huh. Yeah right. And if he's so fast why doesn't he return kicks or punts?

LAPreps said:

The Del Rio league is getting really interesting. Here is my prediction for the remainder of the season...

La Serna=Beats Cal, Beats Pioneer, loses to Santa Fe

Cal Hi=Loses to La Serna, Beats Whittier, loses to El Rancho

Whittier=Loses to El Rancho, loses to Cal, Beats Santa Fe

El Rancho=Beats Whittier, Beats Pioneer, Beats Cal Hi

Pioneer=losses to Santa Fe, La Serna, and El Rancho

Santa Fe=Beats Pioneer, Beats La Serna, loses to Whittier

Standings:

1. La Serna 4-1
2. Cal Hi 3-2
3. El Rancho 3-2
4. Whittier 2-3
5. Santa Fe 2-3
6. Pioneer 0-5

Who gets the at large bid?

BTW, LA Serna Fan, Rudy Jordan was on a break away run against El Rancho, and Ray Madrid was around 25 yards behind him, and somewhere around the 20-yard line he was about 5-7 yards behind him with both running at full speed. Both Jordan and Madrid trotted once he was within the 10 yard line....Nice try though!

~LAP

Garcia 42 said:

Montebello's Past
Sorry you are wrong !Whittier Beat Bell Gardens @ Whittier College that year for league title
24 to 21!

Montebello's Past said:

Montebello won Whitmont in 1989.

Jeff Boutte said:

I happened to be at L.S, E.R. game last night and i think coach beltran is doing an exceptional job.This being his first year as a head coach at any school level. I it would be great if they won the Del rio league championship. posted by high school football fan. HSFF

N-ON-E-MUS said:

To 'Daddy' (St. Paul Supporter)-

I posted this on another blog and I agree with you. There is no other school in the area that should be able to compete with St. Paul or Whittier Christian.

Here is my previous blog:
"It's not really an accurate statement to say that St. Paul has only 350 boys to draw from for their football program. Correct me if I'm wrong, but St. Paul has the ability to recruit and draw from the entire LA and Orange County area (in reality they can recruit nationally-but this is not realistic). So to say it's only a 350 pool of boys is false. Didn't a number of players come from other schools? So, they weren't even part of this 350 pool that attended St. Paul last year. You actually have the ability to draw from hundred of thousands of good players (unlike the public schools that are restricted to their specific area). And if some of these public schools have older families with few high school kids; or limited housing density, it makes it more difficult to field a respectable program year in and year out.

St. Paul and Whittier Christian (private schools that recruit and provide scholarships) should be competing with the likes of Mater Dei, Servite, Orange Lutheran, Loyola, Rancho Santa Margarita, etc. There should not be any comparison with the local high school that draws from such a small area. Whittier Christian and St. Paul should theoretically DOMINATE local schools. They only put 11 on the field at a time and they have access to get the best 11. Local public schools do not have such an advantage."

So, to "Daddy" and the rest of the private and parochial school athletic supporters and fans, you are absolutely correct. No public school in the local area can or should be able to compete with these private schools. Not La Habra; not Cal High; not El Rancho;
and certainly, not La Serna. Look at the area they draw from; big homes, older population, limited housing density (not many apartments), etc. St. Paul has quality players that would normally be attending these schools but chose to play in the 'big' leagues. Same with Whittier Christian. Spread those players back to their normal schools and see what the rosters would look like. (BTW, that's a good senior project for some student; thorough research, interview skills, detailed analysis, interesting topic-publication in the Daily News, etc.-It could also be done for the local public school level)

r u kidding said:

Murray and Campa....

both of you actually picked la mirada to beat a good bellflower team that almost beat mayfair, are you guys ok???


possibly the flat out WORST team in the past 25 years ive been alive lost for the 2nd straight year(the first time it has ever happened) to bellflower 27-5, yes i said 5. Me and the other parents have decided, the boys need to play for pride, because the season is essentially over as of tonight..=(

cal mom said:

santa fe...who's crying now!

cal fan, said:

Try to take this win from us this year santa fe. we are taking league this year, la serna better be on their toes next week!

GO CONDORS!!

sp fan said:

how many st paul players were hurt?...they were good until the fourth quarter. was#34 hurt?

LSFootball said:

anonymous are you kidding me right now. Cal over La Serna..I highly doubt that Cal will beat the Lancers this year. Who does Cal have as their safety again....Drew Harris...Last I remember he's very slow and La serna will just pass all over him. We have good enough receivers to get wide open and we can also have a perfect running game. Cal's backs are decent but they're not going anywhere when going up against La Serna's stunning defense.

SP90 said:

I am disgusted by the sportsmanship displayed by #13. He is an embarrassment to SP football. He should take off his sword and go back to where he came from. These coaches need to control these kids. We are much better than that. Disgusted!

La Serna Fan said:

LA Preps,

Are you crazy saying Ray Madrid is faster than Rudy Jordan? What happend when Jordan ran right by Madrid on his 70 (something) yard TD Run their was no one even close to Jordan on that play. And if you think someone was catching up to him at the end of the play it's because he started jogging at the 10 yard line. If Jordan breaks away in the DRL like he did last game in the open field their is no one that is going to catch him. Mark my words. He easily the fastest player in the DRL.

Sikah Urchit said:

Yo Roger: CAL 19 santa fe 7 nice try better luck next week.

Anonymous said:

Cal is the real deal. third best team in the area now. La Habra still tops, followed by St. Paul ( don't even try to compare the DRL to St. Paul ) St. Paul will eat them all alive. you know it, they know it, we all know it. Don't even mention LSHS in the same breath. Cal will silence you, and don't get me started on Pioneer.

navarro said:

A Fan,

I don't know about their W/L record in that span, but you are close to right... Santa Fe has won 10/14 DRL football championships, including the first in 1993. Whittier's 1992 Championship was in the last year of the Whitmont League.

Ryan said:

To Some Guy.

Cal hi beet El Rancho in 1999 with a last second 52 yard field goal. But El Rancho was 0-5 in league that year and Cal hi was 4-1. In 2000 Cal Hi beat El Rancho by I believe 12 points which turned out to be the league title game Cal Hi finished 5-0 and El Rancho finished 4-1.

LAPreps said:

This is an interesting topic. I love history...maybe someone can fill the holes

1982-El Rancho
1983-
1984-
1985-El Rancho
1986-Bell Gardens
1987-Montebello
1988-Bell Gardens
1989-
1990-El Rancho
1991-El Rancho
1992-Whittier
1993-Santa Fe/Whittier
1994-Santa Fe
1995-El Rancho
1996-Santa Fe
1997-El Rancho
1998-Pioneer
1999-Santa Fe
2000-Cal Hi
2001-Santa Fe
2002-Santa Fe
2003-Santa Fe
2004-Santa Fe
2005-Santa Fe
2006-Santa Fe

You know what is interesting about this history of league champs? La Serna is the only team not listed! Could this finally be the year for them?

~LAP

Anonymous said:

muggie, muggs, muggy, it doesn't matter we don't know you. That isn't what happens when a team day dreams. LS is just a better team. No need to put ER down. Haven't you ever heard not to kick someone when they are down.

navarro said:

A Fan,

I don't know about their W/L record in that span, but you are close to right... Santa Fe has won 10/14 DRL football championships, including the first in 1993. Whittier's 1992 Championship was in the last year of the Whitmont League.

Some Guy said:

Calhi won it in 2000 against the ranch. they did so on the leg of brett levier via a last second (i believe) 52 yrd field goal. this was the school record for a few years until stern broke it last year by a yard or two. the 2000 team went on to the semis and lost to los altos in the last few seconds of the game.

a couple interesting points:
This was the first year cal had under Jim Patricio. some chaulk it up to the talent on that team (many of the players on that team were also on the CIF champ baseball team, many of whom are now in the MLB minors) taht was built by the previous coach (the name escapes me, they even used the same play book). arnold worked under patricio before ancich came in, and arnold went to sunny hills. the seniors this year were the first freshman class to play under ancich.

when it comes to tonight:

obviously a huge night in the DRL. a win for the condors would seal the fate of the chiefs (its all but mathematically impossible to win league with 2 losses), and bring an interesting look for the HUGE rivalry game between LS and CHS as this will almost definately be the league championship game.

If the chiefs win, it will make things VERY interesting in the DRL, opening the doors for a possible 2 or even THREE-way tie for champion. There is definately a lot of bad blood in this rivalry, that i personally feel is getting to the level of LS/CAL. You have the events of the last couple years making for a lot of emotion in this game. last year cal won in a dramatic last play only to be stripped--some say stolen--of their title due to what ultimately boils down to school politics. in addition to this, a lot of the naysayers last year felt cal would not have won had they not had last-minute transfer Nic Grigsby (now starting for Arizona). Last week was a huge loss for the Chiefs--whether it be their first or second league loss. This, in combination with a lot of people counting the chiefs out for this year, leaves both teams with a lot to prove, and even more to lose. this should make for a great game, with two traditionally physical teams with ground-and-pound (woah wrong sport) offenses and hard-hitting defenses.

i feel cal will come out on top in a close one.

Garcia 42 said:

A Fan
93 Co Champs Whittier Santa Fe Whittier beat Santa Fe 14 to 7 Whittier went on to the finals Sante Fe went home after the second round.

A Fan said:

I'll fill in the holes.

Whittier 1992 Greg Ford

Santa Fe 1993 Jimmy Hope and Willie Kahulakula (I'm sure I spelled that wrong)

Santa Fe 1994 Geoff Berg

That's 10 league championships in 15 years for Santa Fe. With a league record of (I believe) of 63-12 in the same time span.

Let me know if I'm wrong about that.

The Fan said:

I agree with Del Rio League, the La Serna announcer is terrible. There is nothing worse than a announcer that talks throughout the game as it is being played! He talks way to much. Say the down,the yardage and what occured on the play and that is it. Enough talking! Tim Keeler does the LS basketball games let him do it, he is way better and much more professional.

navarro said:

Good luck to DRL teams tonite.

On the Whitmont League Conversation -
I have tracked the league back to 1969. The teams were:
La Serna
Montebello
Monte Vista
Pioneer
Sierra
Whittier

Whitmont underwent a number of restructurings over the years and did include Bell Gardens for a time from the late eighties, after Sierra and Monte Vista closed. Also eventually included El Rancho, Dominguez at one point.

While Whitmont did at some point include most of the current DRL teams and many area teams, I don't want to burden Murray's blog with too much off topic discussion so I'll move it to the DRL website where I will continue to research it and add some interesting history.

By the way, A number of different teams had their good years in Whitmont, including Pioneer who were league champs in 1970 and 1971.

http://pioneer-hs.com/drl

Anonymous said:

El Rancho is average at best. The win over Santa Fe really was insignificant and shows that El rancho is back to just being a mediocre team. You guys thought you were coming up but you guys got a reality check.

The Fan said:

La Serna played bad!!!! and on there worst game, there is NO WAY that El Rancho could ever beat that team. There were 3 passing TD's called back and LS had to have 150 yards in penalties. La Serna is going to loose if they do not stop the penalties. The team in league that is going to beat La Serna is La Serna!

CURT MUGG said:

thats what happen when ER day dream during a game!! let a team win, wow!! i mean WOW!!! the team was flat on every level! good job LSHS!!!
and ya bloggers that messed up my name its MUGG not MUGGS OR MUGGIE...

LAPreps said:

I was at the La Serna vs El Rancho game last nite. Following are my observations:

*El Rancho made THREE HUGE mistakes early in the game...1) the Javier Hernandez interception, (2) Marcus Galan's fumble on the 15, and (3) The partially blocked punt that landed on the 2-yard line...These mistakes resulted in an early 14-0 La Serna lead. It took the wind out of El Rancho's sails, and resulted in their playing their WORST game to-date!

*La Serna's offense is very good. They mix it up very well, with passing and running. They use Jordan as a decoy at times, given they have other talented players. Burke is a solid QB and made only a few mistakes. The offensive play calling was excellent in my opinion.

*Jordan is a solid player. Good speed, (although after last nite I realize that El Rancho's Ray Madrid is faster than him)and used well in that offense. But I was more impressed with the passing game.

*El Rancho started throwing the ball late in the 2nd half. It resulted in 195 passing yards for Javier Hernandez. La Serna had some difficulty stopping the pass. Any team with a solid passing offense will tear apart the La Serna defense. La Serna's run defense was excellent. They stopped the ER run attack all night.

*La Serna's announcer does not follow the CIF guidelines for announcing football games. A change is in order.

After last night, it is obvious to all impartial viewers that the top two teams are La Serna and Cal High. I still believe Santa Fe will beat Cal High tonight. But as I have said on this blog since the summer, I expect the DRL champ to have two losses this year. On any given day, any of these teams can win. The team with the most heart, least mistakes, will win...talent-wise all teams are fairly equal...

My thoughts,
LAP

Ryan said:

To Proud La Serna i believe i wrote that cal Hi won the championship in 2000.

LAPreps said:

I believe the old Whitmont League started in 1982. I dont have all the league champions since then, but I do remember a few...

1982-El Rancho
1985-El Rancho
1986-Bell Gardens
1987-Montebello
1988-Bell Gardens
1990-El Rancho
1991-El Rancho

These three schools dominated the whitmont league. La Serna had a couple of good teams, I believe they made the playoffs in 1986. Whittier had strong teams in the early 90's, but Santa Fe, Pioneer, and especially Cal High struggled during this time.

~LAP

loveshsfootball said:

navarro-bell gardens and montebello were in the whitmont league for a number of years and BG was a powerhouse under coach dave newell-if you check you will find that they dominated the league much as santa fe has been dominating the del rio league-you will find it interesting to look up the league champs in those years-and the league goes back to the seventies-let us know what u find out.

Pico Parent said:

What the heck happened last night El Rancho????

Proud LS Parent said:

Ryan-
Cal High was undefeated league champs in 2000, my son played and it was some of the best games ever! Cal lost to Los Altos in the CIF semi if I remember correctly and it was in the last 2 minuets of the game. That's high school football!


Now for our great kids at La Serna

2 DOWN 3 STEPS TO GO!

Go Lancers!!!!

Melissa Bentley said:

Ok, guys! There is no way Santa Fe is going to beat Cal-High. Let's just hope Santa Fe isn't poor sports like last year! GO CAL

stephen cisneros said:

All DRL teams beware of the La Serna Lancers they put a Whooping on anothing drl team. the Lancers are no joke this year. They have more then one player (potts) this year and the whole unit look great from defence to offence good luck La Serna. steve song dad

Del Rio League Fan said:

Leighton Anderson the La Serna P.A.announcer has to go. La Serna had big gains called back because of flags on Thursday night. Mr Anderson made this big call as to "he could go all the way" and two of thoses were called back because of the flag thrown he didn't see. Thats called being a 'Homer" and a not every good one. He even said something like "bad announcer, I'm sorry". Maybe he should listen to the other P.A. announcers in the area and get some pointers.
We have put up with him for a few year now. Maybe, Mr. Anderson "should go all the way and quit". By the way, being on the school board should not be the reason that La Serna uses for not fire this guy!

hsfootballfan said:

Ryan,

I know your right on those DRL champions...8 out of 12 for SF thats why they are the program in this area...thats why even in a down year they get the respect that they get.

As for this weeks picks...

LS over ER...ER is already down 24-3 in the 3rd...welcome back to earth.

CAL over SF in a close one

Crespi over St. Paul...i heard SP was playin without 5 starters well this would have been tough even at full strength

Whittier over Pioneer...I dont think the Titan D can contain 2 very good RB'S

La Habra over sunny hills

Schurr over Montebello


LANCER FAN#17 said:

ok high school football fans
santa fe over cal

whittier over pioneer

and of course la serna over the ranch the lancers r the top choice this year get it done lancers!!!!!

navarro said:

loveshsfootball:
I have all the PHS yearbooks showing the old Whitmont league and I don't see where Bell Gardens was ever in the Whitmont.

According to ER's football site they were not DRL Champs in 2000 - still searching. I got the addresses to DRL heads so I'm going to write them and see what kind of records the league has kept and how to access them.

Ryan said:

I can tell you this far back how the titles went.

El Rancho 1995

Santa Fe 1996 Rudy Caamano & Craig Campbell

El Rancho 1997 Jason Encinas and Jo Jo Espitia
Pioneer 1998 Mike Culpepper

Santa Fe 1999 Chris Rodriguez and Sergio Silva

Cal Hi 2000 Andy Gonzalez Brett LeVeir El Rancho did not win league that year loveshsfootball.

Santa Fe 2001 Jimmy Fuentes and Danny Alanis. Sorry Navarro info. wrong Pioneer did not even make the playoffs that year.

Santa Fe 2002 Adam Sandoval

Santa Fe 2003 Dontrell Mitchell and Nate Kimbrough

Santa Fe 2004 Nate Robinson and Angel Molina

Santa Fe 2005 Aaron Jackson, Eric Gardley and Angel Molina

Santa Fe 2006 Angel Molina and Romeo Pellum.

calfan123 said:

santa fe over cal???

loveshsfootball said:

to navarro-i think u would be talking about el rancho as league champ in 200-but do something fun-try to look up the champs in the old whitmont league which was the name of the old leageu when it had 8 teams-there u will find that bell gardens dominated the league-see what u can come up with and let us know

Anonymous said:

st. paul vs crespi
already a tough game, healthy.
now even worse with 5 starters out.
good luck st. paul!!

navarro said:

Hmmmmmmm, Murray and Campa pick SF over Cal. Wanna let us in on your secret?

I'm going to be ultra realistic this week.

La Serna over ER
Cal over SF
Whittier over PHS

Of course, realism is not the norm this year, which means I might be 0-3.

========
Looking through what records I could find I see where SF actually shared the 1st game of their DRL win streak with Pioneer (2001). I'm still looking for DRL Champions for 2000 and earlier.

Condor-O-Line-Dad said:

Wow, I couldn't believe it when I heard Montebello beat Alhambra. And I thought for sure, Norwalk would put an A-Whooping on La Mirada. But then, stranger things have happened, and quite possibly could continue to happen this season. I do believe CIF goes through La Habra....But! Many teams will improve as the weeks go by. As we have all seen, there is no for sure pick, and yes, I am biased, but I like Cal's chances for the DRL championship. The OL is not the biggest, but what they lack in size they make up for in maturity, strength and technique.The defense is very good, and getting better. Thanks, boys. You make my Friday nights great! Go Condors! Good luck to all DRL Teams.

elrancho said:

I always new campa was a great writer.

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