Week 8 pick'ems: Rivalries make it difficult

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A couple of intraleague rivalries spice this week's area high school
football. The difficulty in picking a winner is that either team in both
cases is a legitimate potential victor.

Up to date:
Roger Murray: Last week - 8-1; Season - 63-16
Andrew Campa: Last week - 7-2; Season - 54-25

Tonight's game:
El Rancho vs. Whittier, at California: Murray (Whittier), Campa (Whittier)

Friday's games:
Artesia at La Mirada: Murray (La Mirada), Campa (La Mirada)
Mark Keppel at Montebello: Murray (Montebello), Campa (Montebello)
La Habra at Fullerton: Murray (La Habra), Campa (La Habra)
La Serna at California: Murray (California), Campa (La Serna)
Santa Fe at Pioneer: Murray (Santa Fe), Campa (Pioneer)
Schurr at San Gabriel: Murray (San Gabriel), Campa (Schurr)
Chaminade at St. Paul: Murray (St. Paul), Campa (Chaminade)

Saturday's game:
Whittier Christian at Brentwood: Murray (Whittier Christian), Campa (Brentwood)

Potential for upsets: Murray (Pioneer), Campa (St. Paul)
2-Mi tune Drills
Chaminade vs St. Paul
La Serna vs Calhi

106 Comments

TheTruth said:

hate to burst La Mirada's bubble, but Norwalk has all the momentum going into friday's game vs. bellflower, and the most to lose, which is why the motivation to play in the post season will be enough to defeat bellflower...not to mention, norwalk only lost to mayfair by 2 monday night, they are MUCH improved since the la mirada game, including a 42-21 dismantling of artesia

gridiron4life said:

La Mirada will beat Glenn, go to the game and support the players. LM needs to win out and Bellflower needs to beat Norwalk Friday night for LM to make the playoffs and keep their share of the state record intact. 27 years in a row........

James Rollins said:

Mr. Anonymous: St. Paul's owes you nothing. You are not a fan and your loyality is to a Concord team.St.Paul's got to the semi finals with 7-6 record and PG "COACH" of the year and 97% of the Senior players went to college. Dwight Tardy score a TD over SC.Sport provide a well rounded student but the mission is college.Over 275 players have gone to College and professional sports if there abilities carry them that far.St. Paul's has done plenty for it students and nothing for you.

Del Rio League Fan said:

Well Cal and La Serna game is over. Lets talk lower divisions. Why didn't the admin let the JV and Frosh teams play. It was probably not enough officials (nice excuse). But, lets give credit to PA Announcer Dennis Maldonado and his crew. It was one of the best called games he has done in a while. Too bad the teams didn't give him offense to call, but with all the penalties that were called, he kept us informed and entertained.
May La Serna's announcer (football) took note (he was at the game).
BTW, Drew Harris might of had a cheap shot, but please La Serna Coaches; teach your guys to stay away from face masking, Tony Mele was almost removed from the season after he took a kick return down the sideline and was almost beheaded by a Lancer defender.
Two more weeks and maybe the DRL will have another 10-0 team headed into the playoffs.

Proud LS Parent said:

Commen Sense;

I was not "trash talking" about Drew, I was observing that it was disappointing behavior and talk. Also was pointing out that he was not the only one, it was going on both sides of the field. Unfortunetly he has been singled out in this lovely blog.
And if you read my comments again you will see that it was not putting him down.
If that is what you think I was doing then I am sorry. I would never never do that to one of our kids, as all of them are, and since we have been watching just about all of them play since they were about 8 years old that is how I feel about them, regardless of which school they ended up at.
Also I was making the suggestion that parents & coaches teach our athletes with better examples on & off the field.
Play Hard, Have Fun, Be Safe
Go Lancers!!!!

question said:

Will La Mirada defeat John Glenn this friday, or should me and my sons just stay home this weekend and watch the lakers instead?

john said:

lets get something straight here. aldecoa did not leave st.paul because he was afraid to compete for his job and thought the transfers where going to take his spot. he left for a completely different reason not even concerning football. aldecoa stepped up when the starting fullback(de dios) could not get the job done,mainly blocking. but he also ran hard he had 300+ yrds last year as a sophmore with a little less than 40 carries. he also stepped up during league and playoffs. i have follwed aldecoa and for those of you to say he cant hack it against the teams sp plays? your wrong because he did.marcus aldecoa, louis garcia and zach salerno all have ran aganist great teams like norte dame,lyola,chaminade,st.francis,alemany,mira coasta and west torrance. how can you say they cant hang when they did! and as sophmores too. i was looking foward to see these boys progress as players,but they all went there seperate ways.and one more thing you say de dios is a big part of sps running game? then why was he not the go to back last year? i know why becasue aldecoa got the job done.

delriohb said:

Common sense:

You are right in principle. Innocent kids should never be maligned. However, Harris has been a trash talker for years. He makes those stupid, NFL/gangsta-inspired in-your-face gestures, both in football and on the basketball court after a hoop. I've seen it. So, yes, people criticize him. He's 17, a young man, not 10. And he should know better, unless, of course, he thinks the super trash-talking, in-your-face persona is somehow cool or tough. In which case, the criticism is totally justified.

I never saw Marcus Allen, Joe Montana or Walter Payton pull that stupid in your face crap. What ever happened to the old-school, "act like you've been there before" modesty? Just play the game!

gridiron4life said:

OOOPPSEEES, LM won 1 game in 1979. So not quite 35 years.....Artesia's Q.B. played a great game, as did the rest of the Pioneers. Strange year for the Mats, alot needs to happen if they are to keep the streak alive. Definetly a down year in the Suburban, no team has the defense it is going to take to get passed the 1st round. Congrats to the Pioneers.

DRLF@N said:

Anonymous,

Let me call you out.....What team are you loyal to or does your team suck that bad...at least SPHS knows what team he likes...

DRLF@N

Anonymous said:

sphs, like i said..what have you done for me lately? absolutely nothing. You guys are the best fans but don't put anyone else down. That just makes you look like a typical DRL team fans.

Common Sense said:

To Proud LaSerna PARENT:

If Drew has raised better than that, then you know his parents would never be on here insulting kids, like you just did.
As a parent, you should realize that these players are somebody's kid or grandkid and the important point is that they are KIDS!
Drew Harris and Rudy Jordan have been playing football there whole lives and now that there name is the paper, people think its ok to talk trash about them.
Why is it that you people feel its ok to write such horrible things about 17 year olds? Yeah, they put themselves in the public by playing football at high school level--but not like that.
I'm pretty surprised at you, Proud LS PArent. Your comments are usually talking up your team--and if you really know Drew, then you know that his parents wouldn't ever come on here to argue back the nasty things people are saying.
EVERYBODY: try to remember we should be talking about the teams and not insulting kids!!!!

On the field said:

N-ON-E-MUS:

You need to watch the film because it wasn't a late hit--the whistle had not blown and the play wasn't dead.

It was a good hit--if you weren't #75. Go back and talk with any football coach, especially Coach Jordan and ask. They will tell you that you should always be prepared if you're on the field and the whistle hasn't blown.

The cheap shot was your #40 on Harris AFTER the play was dead. And Sanchez #84 leading with his head after Matt Davis caught the ball and was on the ground.

Lay off the hate-orade!

Good luck Santa Fe!!!

Cal Fan said:

All I here is how LS played bad, cheap shots by Cal, worse game LS has played.

The reason it was the worst game you played is you played against a defense that kicked your freaking butt! The reason you were one dimensional is because you COULDN"T run N-ON-E-MUS. Your offensive guru reached into his bag of tricks on the first 2 series. He knew he was in trouble from the get go La Serna Fans. We will save our tricks for the games that we need them for.

I like the fact that all you LS fans think we played a great game. Offensively, we were without our leading rusher the WHOLE game. We still ran it when you knew we were going to run it.

Don't cry about sportsmanship. The last time I checked, La Serna had more penalties
STOP CRYING & MAKING EXCUSES LALA

football observer said:

on the field,

yes I was there. I don't recall anyone scratching and spitting but hey i can't see everything... there were a lot of trash talking between both teams though, but that was in between the game. Once the game is over you should shake your opponents hands with class which means telling them good game, not telling every one of them that they don't deserve to shake their hands after the game.

N-ON-E-MUS said:

I was at the La Serna/Cal game and it was an ugly offensive game. I can recall only three offensive plays that stood out: Cal's Urquiza's long run to set up the touchdown, La Serna's double pass to Soto, and Jordan's touchdown run up the middle. Urquiza looked like he was stopped but broke a couple of tackles and was caught from behind by Jordan. It looked like the safety and other D-back stopped playing thinking that Urquiza had been stopped. It was a nice run by the hard-working running back. Kudos to him because he had lost his 'partner' in the backfield. However, the sub fullback did a nice job blocking. For La Serna, Rudy Jordan wasn't touched on his blast up the middle and the safety couldn't catch him.

Two issues for me:
1. It seemed that the turning point of the game was when #3 for Cal (Harris)came sprinting in and threw a vicious late hit on #75. The play was dead and #75 was totally blindsided. That cheap shot took one of the best La Serna lineman out of the game for an extended period. I'm not sure he ever recovered. (Doesn't CIF review this stuff for possible game sanctions? Can anyone just take a flying sprint and injure another player without any repercussions? I would like to see this play on You Tube)
It was actually a pretty good strategy from Cal, because La Serna then tried to retaliate and received an offsetting penalty. I believe it also affected their team focus. Instead of focusing on the game as a whole, La Serna seemed to try to make it personal (against Harris).
The La Serna coaches need to do a better job in managing that aspect of the game. Harris became a lightning rod and drew (sorry 'bout that) the attention to him. I think he's generally hated around the league with his whining, crying, trash talking, etc., but give him credit for his theatrics. On defense, he's always in the ear of the back judge and will shake his hand at the beginning of the game to try to win him over.

2. La Serna's offense was one-dimensional. Was that a spread offense with 5 receivers (including Jordan)? They are not Oregon and Burke is not Dennis Dixon. I believe Jordan's touchdown run was with a full house backfield. Lozano #32 needs to have some touches. He is a horse (no offense); tough, strong, fast! But, more importantly, giving him touches makes the defense think. Put Burke under center with Jordan and Lozano in the backfield-it provides more options. Cal adjusted in the second half-putting Harris under center where the handoffs and running plays were not as visible to the defense. Cal couldn't do anything when they were in shotgun formation.

Congrats to Cal.

La Serna: keep working hard, you'll do fine.

anonymous said:

Sportmanship???? How do you expect the kids to have good sportsmanship when the coaches dont even have good sportsmanship. J Jordan didnt even go shake hands with the Cal Coaches. How embarasing!!!

The Fan said:

La Serna played poorly. To many personal fouls,bad play calling, and mistakes. Burke didn't play well but there were several dropped passes and the coaches didn't run him at all. Several times, he out ran the defenders to the outside and they didn't utiliize his speed. The game was decided on the 3rd and 2 call from the 4 yard line when they ran a sweep pass with Jordan instead of power package up the middle for the 1st down or TD. That makes it 10-0 instead of 3-0. We will find out if LS is going to bounce back this week. By the way, I read the paper today and Coach Arnold said that 2 of Harris's interception were his fault,did he go in and throw them? No excuses, LS lost and don't think Cal was some dominent team, you barly won and LS played terrible.

SPHS said:

Anonymous,
Why do you think we are all so loyal fans, St. Paul football will always be the great (David vs. Goliath) story. The past is the past, but where would any of us be without the past. Our kids still play with pride no matter the outcome of the game. We pay great respect to any player that has put on a Swordsmen helmet. Yes, I do agree “The Pit” is not the same as it was years ago. You can try to talk and discourage us, but that’s what makes us the football program that we are…

“St. Paul Swordsmen”

Proud LS Parent said:

I agree with Cal Fan 2, Drew's behavior on and the off the field was disappointing. He has been raised better then that.
However he was not the only one. There were cheap shots on the field by several Cal players and some retaliation from LS players. The comments at the end of the game said by young Mr Harris was in extreme poor taste and poor sportsmanship. Parent's & coaches need to teach more by example.
Cal won a close game, that's it. No should-of's or could-of's, they just won this contest.
LS will continue to grow strong, the offense will continue to grow and come playoff time maybe there will be another game and it will be just as interesting as this past weekend's game.
What is past is past, move on to this Friday's contest, play hard, have fun and stay safe.
Go Lancers!!!!

On the field said:

Hey footballobserver!

You sound like you herd Harris say things but then you must have been there when LaSerna was spitting at him and scratching his face under his helmet.

Only one with class on that team wsa rudy jordan-he was the only one not talking trash to harris or anyone else.

Interested Party said:

Cal Fan 2:

The coaches have Harris playing QB because the best players play in high school football. If the the other guy was better, he would be playing.

And if you are really a "fan", you wouldn't be trying to tear down the defensive team--cuz they are a team, from the line to the DBs. Harris couldn't make big plays if everyone wasn't working their spots--and they all do! Can you really say Harris isn't a good free safety?


gridiron4life said:

It was not that long ago that La Mirada won games like this, and in convincing fashion. Tonight I witnessed what I will say is probably the biggest "HOW DO YOU LOSE A GAME YOU ARE DOMINATING WITH 1:20 LEFT ON THE CLOCK AND YOUR OPPONENT HAS TO GO 85 YARDS TO BEAT YOU" that I have seen in a high school game in the last 24 years. How many times does Artesia have to run the Hitch and Go for positive yardage before you figure out, that is what they are going to run to beat you. Same exact play ran 3 times in a row. to the same reciever, on the same side of the field. The last one coming on a 3 down and 6 on the 25 with 24 seconds left, Guess where it is going???? We have a winner.... it goes to the same guy it has gone to the last 2 plays, except this time it goes for 25 yards and leaves 12 seconds on the score board. "If I woke up tomorrow with my head sewn to the carpet I would not be anymore surprised than I am right now." (Thanks Chevy Chase) La Mirada's kids played there hearts out tonight. And the same can be said for Artesia. I am stunned... Artesia 21- LM 20.
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In other Suburban League action...

Mayfair held on to squeek by Norwalk 14-12. Norwalk attempted a 49 yard field goal that was just short and left 2 seconds on the board. How many League wins in a row is that for Mayfair now?

Bellflower took care of Glenn 25-7.

So here is how the Suburban is shaping up.

Mayfair is (5-3) and (4-0) in league with Cerritos and Glenn waiting to hand them there 6th consecutive Suburban League Crown.

Bellflower is (5-3) and (3-1) in league with Norwalk and Artesia to play. They could split, loose both or win both. Friday night vs. Norwalk should tell the tale. I do not think that Bellflower can hang with Artesia.

Norwalk is at (5-4) and (3-2) in league and needs to beat Bellflower to go to the playoffs for the first time since 1998.

Artesia whose Q.B. Ragland,looked like the Q.B. for the Oregon Ducks tonight is (4-5) and (3-2) in league get the week off to prepare for Bellflower.

La Mirada???? (2-6) and (1-3) in league better be praying for Bellflower to beat Norwalk and Artesia to beat Bellflower, this would then enable the Matadors, assuming they can beat Glenn and Cerritos to then be tied with Norwalk for 4th place in the Suburban League and the last slot for the playoffs. Once again assuming the league rules are structured in a way that in the case of a tie the nod would go to the team in the head to head. 27 years straight in the Playoffs is on the line. A state Record.

Did I mention I was shell shocked???????????????

oopssiees said:

La Mirada Artesia Mon Night Football

Started off with Artesia up 7-0, then la mirada tied it into halftime 7-7 on a qb keeper. 2nd half LM's newkirk fumbled to stall the La Mirada drive, and Artesia recovered. Later La Mirada took the lead of a 2 yr run for Tracy, and 14-7 La Mirada. Artesia then retaliates early in the fourth with Ragland leading the offense 80 yards capped by a 40 yard gain by Muhammed, 14-14. La Mirada drives with MANY penalties against the pioneers, and scores a TD, but makes a HUGE mistake going for 2, and leads 20-14 with a little over 2 to play. And to make due of the whole season, with 12 seconds left (And a generous 12 it was, the clockeeper was definetly a homer) Artesia drove 80 yards again to score the winning TD and XP, to take away a victory and spoiled LM's Homecoming, 21-20. This loss puts Artesia alone in 4th for the long haul, and La Mirada most likely will miss the post season for the first time in three decades. Coach Norm Flowers after the game made it clear that "We came to play, we executed well on offense, and the defense held the opponent to 15 under our average, which all led to the eventual victory."
On the losing sidelines, dejected faces and questionable coaching calls again handed the matadores a severe blow to their hopes of winning 5 games this season (4 now the most, first time in almost 35 years)...

Anonymous said:

james rollins,
what has st. paul done for us lately? Thank you. Stop living in the past. If that is the case just look at Concord De La Salle's football program. Now that is tradition right there. So unless you are winning champinships this decade get over it, put your letterman jacket away. You are past your prime. Root for a winner.

chieftain parent/alum said:

Cal parents
before you go and start calling other schools classless look in the mirror, first your kids go and vandalized SF with writing "SF sucks" all over the walls in the school, second, at the JV game Cal parents & kids sat on SF side cheering and putting our kids down, and had the nerve to yell obsenties at our team when we won as they (cal) left. As always SF parents kept quite and let the kids play and let our kids to the talking!!!

In The Stands said:

What coaches were fighting on the sidelines?

prophet said:

i dont know about u guys but #11 from el rancho tore it up on saturday against whittier. He is why they won that game, he was all over the field on defense, laying two great hits on #5,and an interception in the 4th quarter thatstopped a drive. he also had a couple of good sized runs that helped put the team in good field position

delriohb said:

I was at the game. Cal and La Serna are even. Burke had an off night, in that he had several passes to open guys fall short. No doubt, Cal has a good defense, but the QB just had a bit of an off night. He's human. I've seen him in many games now, and his command is usually better. He throws for even 100 yards or so and LS wins. Good job Cal, but they in no way proved the they were the better team. A sloppy, defensive struggle.

nameless said:

disgrace to the whittier union high school district? La Serna? Cal was throwing cheap shots left and right. i understand la serna had more penalty yards and all that. and they were playing undisciplined as well. but some of those shots cal players laid on ours were uncalled for and unneccessary.

Anonymous said:

All i read about is cal and LS. ok SF lost The DRL, but you have to look at all the injuries they had when playin el rancho and cal. If you look they stomped on a very good Pioneer team that gave cal a hard time, and now they are preety much all healthy. So LS better be ready. it will be a game on friday.

elrancho said:

ER finally seems to be jelling as a team, the defense finally played some of that typical hard nose defense many ranch teams have been known for. Albert Toscano had the game of his life both on offense and defense. If we can keep playing defense the way we did against Whittier then lookout. Win or lose the next few games, this season already is a success. No one expected ER to be 4-4 right now, people expected the ranch to end up 0-5 in league and end up like 1-9 or 2-8. Well here we are in weeek 9, as long as we take care of business this friday night we will be playing for a league championship next friday night, no one gave us a chance except ourselves. Two more Dons, just 2 more and we will do the unthinkable, we believe!!!

football observer said:

Cal Mom,

Not trying to start anything but drew Harris himself needs to learn sportsmanship. Him telling the kids after the game that they don't even deserve to shake his hands. That's just uncalled for imo

Cal Fan 2 said:

Cal mom,
Before we ask other teams to teach manners and sportsmanship to their players we should have started a long time ago asking our own coaches to teach manners and sportsmanship to our very own Harris. And let me add, I agree with what almost everyone else is stating, Drew will cost us a game. I don't understand why the coaching staff just have him play defense, he sucks on offense, let our other QB do the job. One last thing Drew does not anchor our defense, our d-line and linebackers do.

Titan Observer said:

Pioneer #10,

Idiots like you are what keep programs down. Every single coach in DRL knows what the situation is at Pioneer, and the veteran coaches have great respect for Ramon Juarez.

What was it, did Juarez make you ride the bench when you were at Pioneer? Did you not make grades and was asked to turn in your gear while you were at the school? Or are you an old alumni who has nothing better to do than berate a coach who has done more for the Titan community than you or any other alumni (including myself) ever did or ever will?

Congratulations to all the DRL winners.

highschool observer said:

hey la serna fan, you got beat by a better team,
just accept the fact that you just got beat, regardless, la serna has a very good team, but it will not get any easier for them, I agree with your statement that la serna will get better, but the Cal ol line just wore down the la serna defense, also, all the talk about harris's interception, laserna qb threw 2 crucial interceptions, one led to a touchdown, and the other clinched the game. so all the talk about cal reaching their peak, and la serna not nearing their potential is just talk. I am a former high school coach, who still follows high school football. I read all the comments from all the armchair quarterbacks, some are very good, and some comments did not make any sense at all. (I have a degree in
computer science, which shows that nerds can coach sports). anyway, this has been a great year for DRL football.

Sikah Urchit said:

LA SERNA FAN, TAKE YOUR LOSS LIKE A MAN.WE HAD OUR WORST OFFENSIVE GAME THIS YEAR AND WE STILL BEAT YOU.SHOULDA COULDA WOULDA QUIT DREAMING.WHATS UP WITH YOUR COACHES FIGHTING ON THE SIDELINES ? TALK ABOUT LOSERS NICE EXAMPLE FOR THE KIDS.GREAT PROGRAM YOU GUYS HAVE OVER THERE .WHAT A DISGRACE TO THE WHITTIER UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT.

hsfootballfan said:

La Serna Fan,

Wow someone is a little bitter...so you have high hopes still for your team, thats good. So once again LS goes another season without a league championship (unless Cal loses, then you can share it)

but I wouldn't get to high on thinking you have a chance on winning CIF...first there is Cal, LS is good but LS didn't even beat Cal when Harris threw 4int, Harris probably won't play that bad the rest of the year.

and have you forgotten that the 2 teams to beat when playoffs come are La Habra and Troy...so in my opinion you LS has a slim to none chance at a CIF title, and a league title is probably out of grasp. good luck the rest of year

Ryan said:

To La Serna Fan:

Maybe the genious Coach Jordan shouldn't run a trick play every other down and you guys would have won. The coaches didn't even let the kids play. The tried to trick their way to victory and not win it by playing football. That was the most ridiculous circus offense I've ever seen. How come La Serna didn't do that all year and then when it comes to the big game they choke and think they have to double passes and hook and laterals every play. Did the staff think they couldn't compete otherwise. Your coaching staff killed it for the kids. They should take the blame.

Football Fan said:

Come on La Serna fan get over it. Cal had 4 picks and they still beat you. You say if the defense gets it together, if the offense gets it together. If, if, if. Come on. It could have gone either way but Cal won, they beat you.

James Rollins said:

Well SPH has taken care of Chaminade 35-24. What most of you don't have is a sense of History were all the teams you tear down were all GREAT in their time. SPH for 31 years in the Angelus League when they were 5A designation took down one giant after another.37 straight home victories in the "PIT",played every MAJOR stadium in California.BEAT Mater Dey 18 times and played the cream of the crop no matter who they were in the States elete teams.SPH has less than 600 students and is a college preparatory school for college. Beside athletic skill you need brains.As the school get smaller so does the teams they compete with.Servite could not kiss SPH but in the glory years no could Amat.SPH are as low as they can go with the Mission League.The greatest high school game played was in 1968 when El Rancho and SPH played to a 20-20 tie and were CIF co-champions.We did not get kids jumping schools because there was a 1 years wait to play sports. They had loyality and respect for themselves and the school they played for.So just remember that MA left SPH and took Tustin to 4 league Championships when they had never won league. So after he left SPH another 4 leagues and playoff births.I player for SPH 57-58-and 59. Enjoy the sports.OLD WARRIOR.

Cal Fan said:

Stop whining La Serna Fan. How do you know whether or not we played our best game. I assure that was not one of our best. We GAVE you great field position & that awesome offense of yours couldn't get it done. We lost one of our running backs on the first series & still beat you.

We haven't won anything yet. I do know this, SCOREBOARD. Hopefully, we will see you again soon.

big Unk said:

Whoever said Aldecoa isnt fast enough to play rb is not totally right.He may not have the speed to break a 70+ run but he is an effective runner between the tackles.He hits the holes fast and is hard to tackle.Unfortunately for him he is the victim of a few problems the first being his lack of attempts (6pg) the second is all his carries are without a lead blocker and his final problem is HE is a good blocker something alot of the other backs in this league are not and he is usually used to open up the lane for the other backs, just like he did at SP.

Condor Fan said:

La Serna Fan,

Did you watch the same game I did?? La Serna looked horrible! Cal lost its top rusher Jasper Maza on his first carry and he never played the rest of the game! Everyone knows to shut down the run and make Harris pass! But let me tell you there isn’t anyone better in this league at Safety then Harris! He is the real deal at Safety!! Your offence couldn’t do anything against Cal’s defense! Just so you know Cal’s first string defense as only allowed a total of 26 points in 8 games! La Serna couldn’t get anything going! Harris got picked off 4 times and you could only score 10 points!! Also Burke was 10 for 27 with 2 interceptions and Harris had both the interceptions! (one for a touchdown) total passing for Burke 51 yards! Come on La Serna Fan Burke needs to approve allot if you think La Serna is going anywhere!!! Just so you know offence wins games but defense win championships!! Cal’s defense is one of the best around and they proved it against La Serna!!

Condor Fan

Anonymous said:

Funny, if that kind of comment came from SF we would be considered crying. Remember, if I'm correct but wasnt Cal trailing SF at the half before. An unusual place for them this year in trailing at the half. La serna, once again is still the same. All fluff and no substance!!!! Even the Jordan's could not save you vs Cal. I really hope you dont think you are going to rollover SF this year because even in our down year you have another thing coming!!!!

Cal Mom said:

LS Fan, you are incredible! Even after your loss, you still have the tenacity to try and justify it?!

If you are an adult, I can see why your kids acted the way they did at the game. Will you please teach them manners and sportsmanship!

La Serna Fan said:

Cal Fan,

If I were you I wouldn't get to happy, yeah the game went your way Saturday night, but it easily could of went our way too. And we played awful, but I bet your coaches were happy because you played your type of game. Trying to run the ball because your QB could easily blow it for you, and relying solely on your defense. Here's the thing - La Serna's offense hasn't came close to reaching their potential yet, if the line can get it to get together by playoff time they are going to be tough to beat. Cal Hi on the other has reached that peak, and if their coaches and players don't want to believe that they lying to themselves. They played their best game against a quality opponent and were victorious, but in the playoffs their going to need more than that, their gonna need an offense and they don't have one. Once La Serna cleans up the defense a little bit and the offense starts to understand what Jordan is trying to do they are going to be a completely different team come playoff time. Just like Schurr last year. And remember they got hammered by Alhambra last year 55-22 and guess what they won the CIF Title. So go ahead and celebrate your league championship if you can still pull it off, but all that matters is winning the CIF Title, I guarantee Santa Fe would trade in all those league titles for just one CIF Title (but too bad!) Bottom line - La Serna is going to learn from this loss and get better, Cal Hi has reached their peak. Good luck against
Whittier.

SpartanAlum86 said:

Here's an honest question. I'm not trying to talk trash here, but has Santa Fe ever beat Schurr. I remember in the '80s we used to run it up on them. Granted, Schurr was D3 back then, and SF's program wasn't as strong as it is now.

I didn't follow high school football in the '90s. So I don't know if they had played on a regular basis.

Could someone help me out here? Thanks!

SE Scout said:

First of all,DRL has a POSSIBILITY to have a three-way co-champions with La Serna,Cal High,and suprisingly,El Rancho.El Rancho actually looked like a contender versus Whittier.Drew Harris is a good player but Cal High is lead by their running game(RB & OL).El Rancho is small,but packs a BIG punch.A lot of young adn productive talent at El Rancho.La Serna is lead by Rudy Jordan,whom he does not compare to Grigsby,and their OL.Burke is an OK QB.The reason why QB's in DRL do not have 12 TD's is because DRL is based on running game,not passing.

hsfootballfan said:

LAPreps

so Aldecoa did start a couple of games, but SP did not have Aubrey Haynes last year and he alot better than Aldecoa hands down, honestly ask anybody that has ever played against or seen Haynes play...and Garcia was the starting RB last year and Aldecoa played FB...I never said DRL RB's sucked, I just have seen the SP RB's and yes they are much more all around talented than DRL RB'S...and Eddie De Dios is also a force so on this years team, Aldecoa may have been 3rd or 4th string, again im not saying he not talented bc he is but he among all other RB's in DRL are just not as good as SP's RBs.

Cal Fan...what has Cal done in 20 years???

Hank said:

I also wouldn't say that Aldecoa wasn't good but he didn't have the speed to play RB. He was SP's FB and was mostly used in short yardage situations. Luis Garcia and Zach Salerno (now at La Mirada) were the top RB's last season during their playoff run.

LAPreps said:

HSFootballfan,

Wasnt ER running back Marcus Aldecoa a starter for some games last year? He has not had a very good offensive year, given that ER has soo many running backs, but to say that any DRL RB would be 3rd or 4th string is not keeping with reality. St. Paul is good, but not that good!

~LAP

Cal Fan said:

Where are you LS Fan. What happened to your offense that we had never seen before? You were talking a lot of smack. How did that taste?

Now for you SP fan. You come in here and talk about how the DRL is weak & our running backs would be 3rd or 4th at best. You pretty much get the pick of this area's talent, your at every level recruiting. Instead of talking trash about the DRL, why don't you start by representing this area better than you have in the last 20 years?

chipper 1 said:

You know, all this talk about who's gonna dethrone Santa Fe is quite amusing.

Yeah, Santa Fe is having an unusual year, but I challenge ANY DRL team to do what Santa Fe has done in the last 6 years. Once any of you has accomplished that (I'll even be nice--just do three years in a row), then continue to blog away about this kid and that kid and blah, blah, blah....

THE TRUTH said:

ALHAMBRA MOORS

HAVE THE BEST RUNNING BACK COMBO IN THIS DIVISION...SANTA FE HERE WE COME!!!

SEE YOU IN THE PLAYOFF'S

Danny said:

Lets see, Cantwell beats HS power houses Daniel Murphy, Salesian,
Marystar,Villanova Prep,
Basset...
YEAH RIGHT!!!

hsfootballfan said:

delriohb,

Although the RB's are good in the DRL this year, Turner, Quesada, Jordan, Botello, Meza, maybe would be 3rd or 4th string at St. Paul...The DRL backs are not nearly as good as Aubrey Haynes and Luis Garcia, go to a game and you will see, i'm not exaggerating.
The DRL backs dont suck but they would be 3rd or 4th string at St. Paul, it just a better team in a higher division.
ans St. Paul is alot better than the best DRL team this year in CAL

Anonymous said:

If any of you saw the SF game this weekend. U know that they are back. The return of Kaduma Walker, and Chris Castro this week is going to be key for the rest of the season. They will wim out the rest of the season and make the playoffs. The Lacerna backs need to be ready for the Chief's defense, because they are 100% and it is their homecoming game.

jenny said:

I heard a Cal mom got harrassed (viciously) by La Serna students at the game? Is this true? Who was it? And where were the parents in all of this?

Seriously, it's obvious that money cannot buy class!

Whomever it was, I hope he/she reports it to the police!

Anonymous said:

st paul or almany what do u think and is it possible for st paul to to win there cif championship and will they win league

Big Unk said:

Is there a team more up and down than ER.That was some effort they showed against Whittier.It will be interesting to see how they handle the last two games.Cal is still a couple of weeks away but a win against Pioneer could potentially set them up for shot as DRL co champs.Cal is solid but their no lock.ER has shown they are capable of competing with any team in DRL.The loss to LS was humbling maybe it was the wake up call they needed.

Anonymous said:

but not any better than the good DR teams.

haha!!
sp would destroy any DRL team, none of them would stand a chance in div 3

Anonymous said:

So much for La Serna being a contender. Whittier saw that coming. Pioneer never had a chance. Cal stand alone. Finally you guys can stop talking about how balanced this league is. How any team can take it...NO! Cal is the team. period. Accept it and wait until next year. Way to show up El Rancho. Way to shut up your critics. And that reminds me...All the St. Paul fans that brought down Cantwell for attempting to play with the big dogs. Yeah, you remember. Way to show you CAN play with the bigger dogs. At least Cantwell has a winning record.

mando said:

Cal's Defense came through again, any doubters out there still?

Condor Fan said:

Way to go Condors!!!!!!
Everyone just keeps talking about Rudy Jordan and how great he is and the Cal Hi guys come out and prove they are for real. They are the team to beat. Cals defense is the best. Way to Go... Great Win tonight. KEEP MAKING US PROUD

Fan said:

Final score...Sf 35,Pioneer 14. Gains 1 TD off interception. Turner 3 TD's rushing. 2pts early in the game off safety. Walker 1 TD many yards also on the ground.

Pioneer scoring...Potello 1 TD rushing. Palacios 1 TD pass during last seconds of 1st half. No scoring in 2nd half.

Pioneer#10 said:

People are very dumb, if only Matt Botello had a line at pioneer you guys would be talking about how Matt Botello is amazing, Whittier and Cal both have great lines, and have coaches that arent stupid in their play calling. If you plug Botello into a team with a line and smart play calling, you guys would be seeing 2,000 total yards........and quite possibly Offensive player of the year.....

BLUE BLOOD said:

It seems like The Ranch kick some but Saturday, the Ranch's Defense Dominated Whittier's Offense look out Del Rio League you are in for a rude awaking.

elrancho said:

Once again the ranch proves the doubters wrong!!!!!! ER's defense stepped it up and played the game of the year. Daniel Enriquez and Jonathan Quezada who???? With Cal Hi beating LS, ER is in position to take a piece of that title, anything can happen now!!!!! The Ranch is Back!!!!!

"You havent been hit till youve been hit by the ranch"

mystcphantom said:

Santa Fe will beat the Titans! they have always handled them with ease... and I dont see that changing anytime soon!

fan said:

SantFe vs Pioneer 16-14 SF.

LS Fan said:

Hey Anonymous,
Jordan MOVED! He didn't cheat. In regards to Burke making plays, let me know the other local QB's who have thrown 12 td's and run for 6( there are not any). He is an athlete and that is what athletes do, they make plays.

john said:

for tonights game la serna vs. cal i pick la serna over cal because even though cal may give up about 7 pts a game they have never played against a team that are both efficient at passing and running the ball. they got rudy jordan in the backfield who can run and go out for a pass really well. They also got receivers with good hands. Tonight will be an exciting game....cant wait to see the final result

Anonymous said:

joseph gonzalez,
just like you have an opinion on him so does everyone else. If you don't like it don't read the blogs.

SpartanAlum86 said:

Rudy Jordan may not be Superman, but we will glady take the hard playing talented young man back at Schurr where he belongs. Look at that ring on his finger, he was was a big part of that. LS is lucky to have him. I wish that kid all the luck. Kids like him are what's best about high school football.

delriohb said:

Give me a break, SP Fan. SP is okay, but not any better than the good DR teams. Who have you beaten to talk trash? What is it with some HS football fans posting here where all the other teams "suck" or are "losers." And, no way would Enriques, Botello, Quesada or Jordan be 3rd or 4th string at SP. You're delusional, dude. Get help.

Anonymous said:

without rudy jordan transfer laserna would have no offense and dont think that ben burke is that good defenses key on jordan giving the qb options hes just making the plays he should!!!! jordan grigsby? why isnt anyone complaining bout jordan? is it cuz he isnt as good so no one cares?

just a mom said:

Here we go again. Is Rudy Jordan this years Grigsby? Why is it that everyone wants to pick on the best kids? Maybe jealousy? I hope that Rudy does as well as Grigsby who is playing a lot at Arizona as a true freshman. Good luck to all players and everyone on this blog needs to remember these are kids who are out there playing their hearts out to do the best job they can.

A Fan said:

Rudy Jordan is a great player. He's going to be first team all league, he could well be the offensive player of the year for the league, and if La Serna wins league he'll be the league MVP.

He's veristle and the scary thing about him is that he can score from any place on the field. To say no one is losing sleep over him is totally wrong. He has the potential to score everytime he has the ball. He's running style may not be what some "football fans" may like, but every coach that knows football knows that this kid is special.

I'd like to also say that I think it's great how his former teammates at Schurr support him. Schurr could have been really bitter over the fact he left, but in fact I've read how they defend him in these blogs. I've even seen his former teammates in the stands at La Serna games cheering for him. It says alot about what kind of kid he is.

Good luck to Rudy and the Lancers.

navarro said:

What's with the comparisons of Jordan vs the Cal and Whittier backs? When all is said and done stats will tell the tale and put an end to that arguement.

Well ... almost. Are we forgetting that while good backs have talent and work hard, much of their success boils down to the work of the guys in the trenches? Bad blocking turns a 50 yard gain into a 2 yard loss. Me thinks too much credit is being given to the wrong guys.

Just a thought.

Friar Guy said:

Who is Rudy Jordan? Seriously.

Friar Guy said:

SP fan, how many "big boys" have you beaten? Your running backs would be 3 or 4th string at Servite! Do not pick on DLR teams until you can beat a real team.

HS Football Observer said:

Ryan and Navarro,

I read somewhere, may be OC Varsity.com, that CIF will not extend the season. This is due to the dates set for the State Div. 1,2 &3 Bowl Championship games.

anonymous said:

Just like Nick Grigsby last year when you transfer schools you become the topic of conversation. If Grigsby didn't want people to talk about him he shouldn't have left St. Paul in the middle of the season and followed his old coachs sons to Cal Hi. If Rudy Jordan didn't want to be the object of conversation he would have never let his teamates at Schurr down by following his daddy to La Serna. Trust me it wasn't about him moving its about his daddy couldn't be o-coordinater at Schurr. And nobody is talking trash all though they should because he has no loyalty, just like Grigsby last year. Well thats a little trash. They just said he wasn't the best back in the league and the only reason someone said that is because a La Serna fan wrote in when someone was talking about the Whittier running backs. No one said one thing bad about him except that he wasn't as good as them or the Cal Hi running backs. If you don't want people to say he's not the best running back then stop writing lies that he is. Nobody except La Serna fans think so.

Joseph Gonzalez said:

To all Rudy Jordan critics,


Leave the kid alone! How can anyone say he's not a great player? He once again is the heart and soul of a very good football team. Let him play and enjoy his high school football experience. Good luck Rudy Jordan! Keep running hard and keep making people talk about you....

hsfootballfan said:

LS Fan,

Once again I will say Cal should beat La Serna this week...Cal just plain out a has a defense that only gives up 7 points a game...Both teams have great running games and adequate paasing attacks although La Serna's is better than Cals, but I think the game will be won because of Cal's Defense and backs that wear opposing defenses down.

I never knocked Jordan, I think he is a great speed talent and he is very quick, In my opinion though I would take both the Whittier backs over him because they have speed and power...Also the Cal backs are just as good as Jordan, Jordan is Quicker but the Cal backs will hurt an opposing defender at the end of a run and that is just something that Rudy lacks thats all...but hey that is just my opinion

Good luck Saturday

Anonymous said:

rudy jordan superman? thanks for the laugh. It's his o line that deserves the credit. Imagine if the whittier backs had the serna line. They won't be supermen out there..they'll be the kryptonite that can whoop superman.

Ryan. said:

To Navarro

That would be a good suggestion. CIF should just have cancelled all the games for the week and extended the season keeping everybody on an even playing field.
And to anonymous I believe i did watch the news and looked it up on the internet the Santa Ana winds are supposed to get worse. The quality of air in the San Gabriel valley is predicted to be worse on Saturday then it was yesterday.

Del rio fan. said:

Rudy Jordan Superman? C'mon absurd. He is a good player thats all. He's not even the second best running back in third best running back in the league all though he is a good defensive back. He's not even the best player on his own offense. And when comparing him to the Whittier running backs I believe Quezada out rushed, received and scored him in the head to head match up. Quezada also had a big touchdown run called back. La Serna did win but I think that had more to do with Ben Burke and the La Serna defense not Jordan except that Jordan is part of that defense. Feel free to argue my opinion. Trust me nobody in the league is loosing sleep over Jordan.

CIF said:

Go to the CIF site and look at all the transfers. It looks like some local teams didn't see there paper work.

adapt and overcome! said:

i just have something to say it sucks for dushan ancich that this would have been his first freshman class to all go through his program and be seniors? sooooooo no matter wat offense or defense theyre running at cal thats dushans team and look what theyre doing? hmmmmmm shows what he can do!!!! it just takes time!if anyone wants to disagree make sure u played for him at cal if not then sushhhhhh!!

Anonymous said:

Ryan,
air quality going to worsen? there are two types of wind that are affecting the scene. One is the Santa Ana winds (which is what we've been getting) and then there is the on shore flow (which is what we will get) so you my friend, make no sense. pay attention to the news next time.

H.S.FAN.... said:

I THINK DREW HARRIS SUCKS AT QUATERBACK.....HE IS OKAY AT FREE SAFETY BECUASE OF HIS HEIGHT....BUT I DONT THINK HE HAS THE HEART OF A CHAMPION.....NOW EVERYONE SAYS THEY WOULD TAKE THE WHITTIER RUNING BACKS OVER RUDY JORDAN THATS A JOKE....ANYBODY WHO HAS EVER PLAYED WITH THIS KID KNOWS HE HAS WHAT IT TAKES AND HE LEAVES IT OUT ON THE FIELD EVERY GAME....HE IS SUPERMAN OUT THERE ON THE FIELD.....PROPS TO THE LA SERNA TEAM KEEP YOUR HEADS UP AND FOCUS DONT GET TO AHEAD OF YOURSELF ONE WIN AT A TIME.....

sp fan said:

you can argue who has the best running backs in the area ,but the facts are cal,whittier,la serna ,la habra... you all don't play anybody but loser teams and each other.
the only teams you can compare yourselfs to is loser teams like yourself!!
your teams will not do anything but beat your own sorry div. and that's it !!!
come play with the big boys ,then talk!!!!
all your running backs suck!!
they would be 3rd & 4th string backs at a real school....!!!!!!!
ST PAUL!!!!!#1

Prognos said:

Santa Fe 17 Pioneer 10

La Habra 35 Fullerton 7

Artesia 28 La Mirada 14

set in stone.

game.

LS Fan said:

hsfootballfan,

just keep talking about how cal is supposedly going to beat La serna with their runningbacks who are nothing and do not have as much talent as Rudy Jordan. Drew Harris good at free safety????I've seen vids and all I see is him hesitating before he tries and make tackles...it seems like when its just one on one he's too scared to try and make a hit.

navarro said:

So what would you suggest Ryan? Just cancel them without rescheduling like San Diego Section did? That would be okay too. After all, health is more important than football.

LANCER FAN#17 said:

please navarro this game against la serna and cal doesn't even deserve a pre-game prediction!! the out come will only b known at the end of the whistle!!!!!

Ryan said:

I don't agree with Navarro. How is it a good decision. How in the world is the air quality going to be any better on Saturday? That makes no sense the fires are not going to be over by then the air isn't going to get any better. As a matter of facts I'm watching on the news right now that the winds are going to pick up this weekend making the air quality worse. What a good idea change the game to a worse day. Great Idea. Add to that don't let them practice all week and have them come in out of shape and play in a game when they haven't excercised for the week and the air quality is worse. Great decision. Makes no sense.

? said:

LA SERNA over Cal.

Cal sucks that's why.

elrancho said:

Ahh I hate these dam fires, I was excited for tonight...

navarro said:

Congrats to WUHSD for a sensible decision.

murray said:

The Whittier school district postponed/canceled all outdoor activities for today (Thursday) AND Friday. Today's El Rancho-Whittier football game and Friday's Del Rio League scheduled games - Santa Fe at Pioneer and La Serna at California, have been rescheduled to Saturday. The ER-Whittier game has been moved to El Rancho HS.
Lower division football games will not be made up.
The DRL cross country championships have been postponed, and not reschedule date has been determined.
La Habra's football game at Fullerton has been postponed, as all Orange County high school outdoor activities have been canceled through Saturday (imagine the rescheduling nightmare that's going to be for football).


navarro said:

Heheh..
There appears to be little agreement between Murray and Campos as to this week's winners.

But Murray is right. This is a week when most games are a tossup either team is a legit winner.

In the DRL I'll give the nod to Cal, Whittier and Pioneer this week.

However it turns out, the implications are huge insofar as league titles and a potential at-large playoff birth play out.

Best of luck to all teams and be safe.


hsfootballfan said:

Santa Fe over Pioneer
This is the best rivalry in DRL, although this rivalry has been traditionally dominated by the Chiefs, I expect this game to be close. This game always gets the two schools going since SF plays its home games at Titan Stadium...there is always alot of pride in stake as well as bragging rights despite the records....I expect a closer game this year than in past years but i'm the Chiefs to win because of the return of running Keduma Walker he should take some load off of Turner.

Cal over LS
I have seen Cal and although Harris is not that good at QB is a good free safety that anchors a solid defense only gives up less than 7 points a game. Cals O-line and running backs will wear down the LS defense and gets this win for the Condors.

Whittier over ER
Whittier will literally run away with this one. Both of their RB's are nearing 1000 yards rushing, they should get to that mark this game.

St. Paul over Chaminade
Hopefully Paul Lopez returns to QB for the Swordsmen, or just hopefully Canales does not play. St. Pauls defense is great and always comes up big when necessary, just gotta hope the offense returns the favor

La Habra over Fullerton
I dont see LH losing anytime soon

The Fan said:

Hey Murray,
Is tonight's game with Whittier and El Rancho still on or has it been postponed because of air quality?

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