El Rancho was good, Santa Fe wasn't, but it's early

"To reminder...... My son graduated 3 years ago and we hear the talk maybe you should pay more attention ,,,,,,,,,,,"
Posted by: baseballfan | March 25, 2008 8:20 AM

This illustrates the point that you do not have current information. If there were, once upon a time , some unhappy players or parents then okay fine. That was then and this is now.
Seriously, 3 years ago? Shouldn't you be focusing on your sons' college baseball career...Time to move on.

I think you mean ER (El Rancho) "got beat, 12-2, by Simi Valley. Then got whacked 16-2 versus a pretty average Servite team." La Serna hasn't played either of those teams.

To trhe ER fans who've mocked my points about playing good competion, as LS and Cal have:

LS got beat 12-2 by Simi Valley. Then got whacked 16-2 versus a pretty average Servite team. After starting 8-0?

ER is a solid team. They may win league, and they will most likely make CIF. No disrespect to those kids and their good, nice coach.
BUT...does this terrible tournament effort not make my point?

LS, on the other hand, made the championship game by beating a solid 8-2 Paloma Valley team today 7-1, with their reliever/#4 pitcher Langstaff totally shutting them down (only a homerun in the 6th). LS also beat La Mirada in this tournament, and they are now 9-4. All the pitchers they've seen in the tourney threw 85+, yet they have hit them hard, or at least not been intimidated, at all. Not many K's. LS battles for every at bat and every out.

ER supporters, this success against good competition comes from seeing guys with legit stuff in pre-season! From playing teams that may be physically superior. Coach Llanes, get your kids out and play someone in pre-season! Embarassing losses, which hurts our league's rep.

Great job, to Whittier High though, with the Cards beating D3 #1 Notre Dame and making the semi-final. Way to help earn respect for the DRL! That Cardinals team is not too bad. ER, LS, SF and Cal better not ever let down against them. A scrappy team.

Get out and support DRL/LS as they play St Paul for the championship Wednesday at 12:30 up at Whittier College. Go Lancers!

to insight:
Thats one league game, get over it. Still two more games. It was a good game, 7-6. Wasnt a blow out, it was a typical Cal-LS game. I think the last 3 years, these games have been decided by 3 runs or less every game.

Btw, so everyone knows, i am a LS alumni. I have faced the competition of the Cals, El Rancho's and Santa Fe's so i know what im talking about. Like any real athlete should, i respect my competition.

Whats really sad about these blogs, is that many of the bloggers are grown adults, and are talking down on high school athletes. Grow up. Let the smack talk go on between the players, most of them are friends on rival teams, there is no reason parents should be in the middle of this. And believe me, the parents do get in the middle of their kids high school athletics, just let your kid play the game they love.

Hey everyone -
La Serna is playing very solid ball right now. How about paying more attention to the players accomplishments and less to rumors etc??? THAT'S GETTING REALLY OLD.
So far it looks like this will be a great season for LS, Cal and ER.
Tyler, Ben & Victor are all very very good pitchers - sorry don't know the kids at ER, so I can't say how they are doing.
Gotta Love Baseball, any team can win given talent, focus and courage. If it's by 1 run or 10 a win is a win and the kids deserve kuddo's from all the fans, not the BS that is starting to show up.

Good luck guys in the Championship game tomorrow.

Play Hard
Have Fun
Stay Safe

Go Lancers!!!!

To reminder...... My son graduated 3 years ago and we hear the talk maybe you should pay more attention ,,,,,,,,,,,

(Hey reminder) grow up it sounds that you have a personal issue against leibert he is good and again it was a close game you won by what 1 run get real you did not blow them out. Also why did your coaches go video tape the cal pitchers oh no wait they send a player they did not do it themselves like real coaches should.........

WOW SANTE FE YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT FIELD GOOD JOB...........

Mr or Ms Anonymous,
Here we go again. Pay attention;there will be no rumor mongering. If you have firsthand information then put it out.
I am giving everyone firsthand knowledge that Coach Gonzales lives,eats, breathes, bleeds baseball. He has demonstrated to everyone that he is the EPITOME of a BASEBALL COACH!
Most knowledgeable people understand that you can't please all of the people all of the time. There will always be someone not getting what they want or expect. This holds true in any organized sport and life.
"This is truly just the beginning of what will prove to be a successful season, and new era for the LSHS Baseball Family".....and you get to watch it happen.

YES YOU CAN!

Hey Del Rio League Alumni,
LS beat Cal at Cal vs. the "King of the Hill" (Leibert).He has 32 strike outs? Are you kidding me? Appertently that great competition was not so great.

Thats right ER did win and they did face the same teams so cut them some slack they are better and stronger than last year.

La serna does not have a program not yet if you can keep the same coach than maybe look at cal same coach for what 7 years now well that is a program.With all the talk going around that kids and parents do not care for coach anthony we have to see how long it will take for parents again start trouble for him like they did when he was there with casey morales........

el rancho played the same teams last year and what happend...oh thats right they won leauge

drl alum. I only raised the competition issue because someone said Liebert had faced the best, and this is not accurate. I mentioned PONY only in the context that Liebert knows that LS has some good players that have hit him pretty hard since those days. I credit Cal for going out and playing teams from other, better leagues. And I agree with you that SF and ER are solid, but if they want to be considered top teams area-wide, they have to go out, like LS and Cal have, and take on OC teams and other perrenial strong programs. And it is a joke to see a bunch of SF and ER guys hitting above .500. Are they better than LS's and Cal's best hitters? Hell no. It is the level of pitching seen.

I'm a fan of my kid's team, but also of all of our DRL guys. Because I think we have quite a few guys in our league who can and will play college ball, I want to see all of the programs challenge themselves and play up, so to speak. In this way the entire DRL will improve, and it will earn more respect in the HS baseball community in socal. In case you are not aware, the DRL is held in pretty low esteem by the HS baseball community. If teams get out and beat or at least compete well with some good teams from OC, the south bay, the power private schools, etc, that perception will change.

Which is better for our DRL: A team like LS opening up with Los Al and Arlington, losing 2-1 against D1 #1 Los Al and beating Arlington, or other good DRL teams playing in the Montebello tournament? LS and Cal, by playing well against good and higher division teams, helps earn the whole league respect. Cal losing a close one to Bellflower was good for the DRL, you know what I mean? Why don't SF and ER get out there? It would help them, and help the entire league.

Alumni,
Can I say "ditto". Let the boys play the game.
But, what is so entertaining with most of the bloggers. Is that most of the them have the same thing to say no matter the results of the game.

Play ball.

It's about time la serna has a program lets see how long it will last untill again the parents want a new coach and that should not take long what is it every other year.....

LS SHOULD DO REAL TOURNAMENTS NOT LOCAL ONES LIKE ST PAUL GET REAL ......

To delrioHB:

Are we really bringing up LITTLE LEAGUE? Might as well bring up the t-ball days while your at it.

yes the competition can be a factor but big deal who La Serna played compared to any of the other top del rio league teams.

St.Paul - Lower division then LS, should be a win every time.

Laguna Hills - lost 4-1, loss is a loss.

Patriot - competitive for about 3-4 innings, then Patriot took it to LS.

It dont matter what LS's players have seen this season. That really helped them against Whittier, which they barely squeaked out a win.

If you wanna compare pre season losses, which it really doesnt matter come league, then look at Cal:

Bellflower: 5-2 record ( Cal went up against one of the top pitchers in So Cal in Anthony Gose) Final score 3-2 Bellflower

Torrance 6-2 record, lost to them 3-1, but hey this team beat St. Paul, so does that mean its better competition to Cal then it was to La Serna?

La Habra: Dropped the second of the double header. Lost by one 8-7.

And there shouldnt be any knock on ER or SF. These are two legit teams. Especially El Rancho who isnt getting enough respect IMO.

LS, CAL, SF, and ER are all legit teams. It will be a tough battle throughout the season. Stuff can be said about each others schedule's and how one is tougher then the other, BUT the fact remains that the boys still need to go out and play the game of baseball. That's how it will be settled, out on the diamond.

What do you know SF lost once again. This time to CAL

Hey El Rancho,
ER smashes all the Del Rio league teams year after year? LS one it with a 15-1 record in in 2006. Last year you were outed in the first round. We will see how this plays out. Burke and Soto both throw around 90 mph we will see how you do vs.them this year. I know you did not face anybody in that crappy preseason tournament you played in like those two. Santa Fe, welcome back to reality! Cal high should turn up the pitching machine.

Hey El Rancho fan, ER did not "smash" teams last year. They had a good year and won the league, but most were close wins, and then they got shut out in game 1 of CIF. Cal was not a great team last year, but they had played good teams pre-season during spring, and it helped them in CIF. That's why it DOES matter that they have not played anyone, unless you're happy just making CIF, your guys having bogus, inflated stats.

And did it occur to you that other teams are better than last year as well? La Serna was talented last year, and did beat Villalobos at ER, but this year's team is much more intense and focused. ER to CIF? Yes. But they will not win league this year.

Whether El Rancho has played anyone or not in the preseason doesnt really matter, year after year ER smashes on all the DRL schools and the same thing will happen this year. Remember that team from last year that won the DRL championship, well this years team is better than that...

Mr. Murray-
RE:

"Yo, Anon87,
Hogwash!
Santa Fe and El Rancho did not play each other in the championship game of the Montebello baseball tournament because they were going to open Del Rio League play against each other seven days later.
To suggest that either of the teams refused to play the other "because they knew they'd lose" is an insult to the intergrity of both coaches.
And that's just not right."

I Must A-Man to that!!!!

And to Del Rio BB Fan-
Knock it off - the players & parents are very happy with the new LSHS baseball program and the coaches. Mr. George & Mr Gonzalez bring a new vision and energy to LSHS and it shows. Keep your thoughts to yourself until you watch a few practices and games.

Go Lancers!
Play Hard
Have Fun
Stay Safe

Finally some baseball comments. Check out drlsports.com for a little more coverage. But Murray has it right. I don't know why coaches won't play each other especially in a championship game. Pool play can be adjusted.
The game of the week will be LS @ Cal. Gonzales vs Nieto will be enjoyable to see who shutters at the first sign of defeat. Get out next week and see a tournament game. Also, Whittier College and Biola are in full swing.

Hey DRL BB Fan: Tyler is no doubt a good pitcher, but a simple check of MaxPreps shows he's started against Redondo (3-6 record), Torrance (5-2), La Habra (4-5) and Pioneer (1-6). This is your "best competition"? Compared with LS's Burke pitching against undefeated Patriot and Laguna Hills (both top ten in current CIF poll)? Liebert should dominate those teams. But La Serna is no tin can team, as he knows from his PONY days. And whether Burke or Soto pitches, no way is Cal scoring 10 runs. You're delusional, DRL BB Fan.

Yes, Liebert's stats are good, but the LS kids have seen legitimate D1 guys several times already with more heat and command than Tyler brings. He's good, but the kids have seen better this season.

La Serna may be 4-4, but all 4 losses are to CIF top 10 ranked teams- St Paul, Patriot and Laguna Hills. Can any local team say they've played as tough a schedule?

Hey ER and SF: with all of your wins and high batting averages, how many ranked teams have you played? Do you realize that the teams you've played have terrible losing combined records? Check MaxPreps.

Cal and LS is always a great game. This should be no exception.

What thing???

GAWWWWWWWWWD THIS THING TAKES FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!

Del Rio BB Fan,
You're so misguided, and ill-informed.For starters What isn't included in the MaxPrep stats...vs LosAl 2-1 ,yes it was a loss; however, a very well played game 1thru7. Then there was the Arlington game, W 3-2, another testament to this squads ability play with some of the best. By the way Cal did face one "Dude" in Gose, and lost. Your comment about the coach is nothing more than rumor mongering, best kept to yourself. It's just not positive. The players, parents and coaches have a very positive rapport with one another. This is truly just the beginning of what will prove to be a successful season, and new era for the LSHS Baseball Family. As for your baseless prediction; if you've been around the game long enough you'd know that on any given day any given team could win. So just let the boys play without all the garbage!

Yo, Anon87,
Hogwash!
Santa Fe and El Rancho did not play each other in the championship game of the Montebello baseball tournament because they were going to open Del Rio League play against each other seven days later.
To suggest that either of the teams refused to play the other "because they knew they'd lose" is an insult to the intergrity of both coaches.
And that's just not right.

The game of the week is LS @ Cal on Friday. With the way Liebert is pitching, it will be hard for anyone to beat them right now. He has the best stats in the area, and has faced the best competition. LS has played good teams but hasn't beat any of them. Gonzalez is young and inexperienced and may not know how to win the big games. We will see how he will prepare his team to go into the place that his father built. Odds are he will fail. Rumors say they are tired of him already over there and that the kids aren't playing hard for him anymore.PREDICTION:CAL 10 LS 1

Good Job El Rancho you are the DRL team to beat. SF didn"t want to play you at the Montebello Championship game, cause they knew they'd lose. Keep up the good work...................Let's GO DONS !!!!!!!

wht about a post on the search for the next santa fe boys basketball head coach? who should it be? who has applied? I've heard of a few interesting local candidates. we're talking about the back to back del rio league champs here!

Way to ER.....a day late and a peso short!

Should have tossed a BOOYA! in there Mr. Murray

Your right by saying the season is still early but if you have'nt seen ER play yet let me say that they are very talented team.Villalobos is going to continue to mow down batters.As a team 1-9 all their bats are live and if the last two games are any indication watch out for Aldecoa (2hr)&(11rbi this season).

We had it four days ago: "Parsons bows out."

When are you gonna put up a section about Gene Parson's resigning. That topic will blow up.

Good start for ER, who as defending champion and with their best pitcher back, indeed should be the DRL favorite. But their early records and stas are very misleading. Look at the records and level of competition that they, SF, Whittier and Pioneer have played. Both SF's and ER's opponents have lousey records and are from weak leagues. Cal and LS have at least gone out and played good teams from all over.

Why does a perrenially decent team like ER not get out and play someone? Baseball is played beyond a ten mile radius of their school. The Montebello tournamant year after year? LS has seen many pitchers throwing 85-92 MPH with command this season already and battled; what level of pitching has ER and SF seen? Records and stats, at this point, can be decieving unless you look at the level of teams played.

Should be a good race between LS, Cal and ER this year.