Taking cheap shots is, well ... cheap
Pete Gonzalez has been through it before, so hammering his coaching
ability and decision making on the blog is old hat to him. When he got
the job at St. Paul, he endured the criticism, then went out and took
his program to the CIF division semifinals.
The next season, his second, he won a CIF championship.
That segment of the Montebello faithful experiencing so much
discomfort with his hiring at Montebello might do well to chill,
better yet, hold off with the snide remarks and innuendo until he's
provided hard evidence to deserve it.
For instance, Oiler Dad posts that " ... the new coach is letting a
lot of females" join the program. It is safe to assume that in his mind,
that indicates the football program is headed in the wrong direction.
For the record, there are four girls participating, three of whom were
in the program last season at the lower levels.
Oiler Dad also takes a shot at Gonzalez's "12 varsity coaches but no
lower level staff." Bad info. A dozen varsity coaches does seem
excessive, but there's nothing illegal, immoral or unethical about it.
As for the "lower level staff," the varsity staff will coach the varsity
and junior varsity the first year. And Nishil Shah will head up the
freshman staff of five coaches, all of whom were part of the program
last season. That's a pretty good start for incoming student/athletes.
Oiler Dad then invites (encourages?) everyone to investigate the
program. Not a bad idea. But do so with an open mind, and don't be
surprised if you find it better than the naysayers would like you to
believe.
Oiler Alumni Assoc. (has this person been authorized to speak for the
group?) claims to have inside information that Gonzalez was not hired
for his ability but because he and his family have important friends.
Surprised? He grew up in Montebello, attended school in the city. He's
bound to know some people. Most people would consider that a plus when
it comes to fundraising and getting done many of the "little things"
that set good programs apart.
Most important, have some faith in your school's administration. Do
you really believe that it would hire someone they felt maybe wasn't
qualified as a coach?
C'mon, be real, not foolishly blinded by what seems to be personal
agendas. This is not to say the Oilers are guaranteed success under the
new regime, but they deserve a chance to prove their program, one way or the other.
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Roger Murray is the prep sports editor for the Whittier Daily News.
SP alum 89,
In my post I stated that La Habra has been recognized as a California Distinguished and National Blue Ribbon school. I did not claim that they were currently a member of this honor. La Habra was recognized for this award in 1994-96.
A school does not become a member unless the school meets certain criteria in order to even be considered by the California Department of Education as a Distinguished School. To become a National Blue Ribbon school is an award given by the United States Department of Education which also requires that a school meet certain criteria. The application process is very lengthy and typically is a two year process to even qualify. Below are two links that explain the whole process.
http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/sr/cs/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Ribbon_Schools_Program
Yes this is a Sports blog, but IMO Athletic and Academic success go hand in hand, at least they should.
As for La Habra not doing quite so well since 1994-96, La Habra is actually doing better. In 1994 when La Habra was given the distinction of Distinguished Blue Ribbon school their AP scores were in the high 690s. This year, the two area schools that have distinguished themselves as far as AP scores go have been La Habra at 779 and La Serna at 790. The Magic number that most schools strive for is 800 which is considered to be a very good AP score. I congratulate La Serna and some of the other schools mentioned for achieving such an honorable distinction. I would actually love to here what other schools in our area are achieving academic success.
As for talking c**p I have never posted anything negative about St. Paul high school. Two of my closest friends are St. Paul grads that often speak very highly of their experience as students and athletes of St. Paul. In the 80s and 90s I had the great pleasure of attending many a St. Paul game and always came away impressed with how well coached and how hard St. Paul always competed on the field of play.
I do not know anything about St. Paul’s academic achievements, but past alums have told me that when they were students a few years back, the academics were very challenging and the school did a very good job of preparing their students for college life. I would love to here from more recent grads their opinions of how St. Paul is doing academically over the past few years. I think it’s great when students and alums show pride in their schools traditions and the loyalty that bloggers display on this site is a tribute to their school.
On a side note, I got a chance to see La Habra’s Josh Quezada in action this last week. All I can say is WOW! What a supreme athlete. I hear through the grape vine that he is beginning to get a few PAC 10 schools take notice of his talents. I wish the young man good Luck for the coming season.
Cool information, but not every student is the AP, Honors classes, college bound category. I would like my kid to go to a well balanced school. A local paper conducted an interesting comprehensive study of all public schools in Orange County in May 2008 and La Habra was 25th, just behind Sunny Hills 19th. While academics were a big part of the study, the focus was on overall campus environment.
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/education/article_2052658.php
I know this is a sports blog, but oh well.
I figured we could give a shout out to other area high schools who made the list on 2009 Distinguished Middle and High Schools, California School Recognition Program (CSRP) distinguished school honorees:
Sunny Hills, Glendora, Gabrieleno, San Marino, and Walnut high schools.
Great job to those schools' faculty, admin, and programs. Keep doing what you're doing, because it's working quite well.
Hey La Serna -
Congrats on the '09 Distinguished School Honoree Award! That is awesome!
And 91 Sp Alum -
Thanks for the kudos. We Swordsmen have to stick together and represent what our school is all about regardless of the few bad apples that stink it up every now and then!
To quote another blogger,,,,,
"Not to change the subject, but lets all try something new. Why don't we all try to blog something positive about high school football for a change and discuss which programs in the area are going to fare well in the upcoming season. Many of us understand that there are many issues regarding the changes that have occurred at St. Paul and Montebello. I am an old timer who loves what high school football stands for, hard work, loyalty, dedication, honor, brotherhood and class. I for once would like hear from some of the high school faithful blog about their football programs. It seems to me that there are some bloggers on this site that know a thing or two about high school football. Instead of all of the whinning and complaining, lets talk about the best returning players to watch out for, best coaching staffs, best fans, best place to watch a game, best mascot, best food, lets hear from past players describe their teams traditions and pre-game rituals. lets clear the air and accentuate the positives of high school football."
Re: Discussion on California Distinguished Schools
Only one high school in the area received
this recognition for 2009.
2009 Distinguished Middle and High Schools
California School Recognition Program (CSRP) distinguished school honorees.
La Serna High School
89 SP Alum , u da man!
I love My School (St.Paul)I would never talk down about another school( except Servite, Freaks) but what happened to our beloved Hell Week !(if u played at sp you know what i mean) St.Paul needs to toughin up a little and start doing bleachers like the rest of us did. And St.Paul parents(New Parents)Stop for second and let the coaches coach so they don't have worry of u going to the Principal office because he cuss ur son out. My family been with SP since the 70's and we do things differen't than other schools, this is who we our, Senior responsiblity is to teach the underclassmen what it means to put on the helmet and wear the sword, this is what makes us so Great... (Tradition and Pride) and SP what happens on the field stays on the field...Again Tradition...shave heads, our blazer, walking on the field etc, I know we have some new tradition as well thats great,but don't forget our old one HELL WEEK.My buddy Sp alum became a marine and then became a seal. and he said to me he owes it all to hell week and the coaches (Olmedo)
Go Swordsmen.
Yo Easye:
Check your facts before you blog. La Habra High School is not a CURRENT member of US Dept. of Education Blue Ribbon School Program. Nor is it a current member of the CA Dept. of Education Distinguished Schools. Go ahead and check the links below. They prove my point. Obviously at one point in time LHHS was a member, but not currently. This simply means they are not doing as well as they used to be. No worries though!
US Dept. of Education website referencing Blue Ribbon Schools for 2008, released 10/2/08:
http://www.ed.gov/programs/nclbbrs/2008/2008-schools.doc
CA Dept. of Education website referencing 2009 Distinguished Middle and High Schools, released 4/1/09:
http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/sr/cs/disting2009.asp
While there are many great public and private schools, one can not make a general statement about all of them! You can only speak by what you have experienced firsthand or what others themselves have experienced. The bottom line is that any kid at any high school can be successful in academics, athletics, morality, relationships, etc, etc, etc, given the proper tools and resources. Also he/she must find the motivation and desire for that success from within to have a fighting chance.
More specifically regarding football, the programs that typically have long term success are the ones where the players believe in the system 100%. That includes the football program itself, coaching staff, fellow players, and the institution as well. Schools like La Habra and St Paul produce atheletes with this mentality.
So, I ask you people to give props where due, and talking cr*p about another school beacuse you think yours is better is infantile at best and you have some serious insecurity issues.
Peace.
Fabrication,
I was speaking of La Habra, and the award is given by the The United States Department of Education to schools who excel in academics. My Point, was in response to Mr. Anonymous insinuation that Public schools like La Habra do not prepare their students to move on to college.
Easye what is your point? Distinguished school, who are you talking about? Is it La Habra or someone else? I ask who gives this blue ribbon award?
EasyE,
You have made some very valid points. One thing that most parents don't realize is that in high school, ASB funds a lot of activites and sporting teams and events. The big money maker for ASB is membership and the gate money from sporting events. However, there are sports like Baseball that don't charge at the gate, but on the other hand, Football is a huge money earner for a high school. We all know that Football is 'king' in high school. La Habra games bring in a ton of fans and an enormous amount of gate money. (Not to mentionthe money the Boosters make from Snack Bar sales and donations from the La Habra Lions Club for funnel cake sales.
Addtionally, La Habra and Tustin High each received a check for $8000 from CIF after the bills were paid to Anaheim Stadium for hosting the final. In the end, a school will benefit greatly from a great Football program.
Lets see, why would a parent want to send their child to a school that has been recognized as a Distinguished Blue Ribbon School, and year in and year out send many of their students prepared to attend institutions of higher learning. Why would a parent whose child might want to play football send their child to a school that has won four C.I.F championships. C'mon Anonymous, a student does not need to go to St. Paul to go to college and La Habra does a great job of preparing their athletes to be recruited and signed by universities that play college football, as demonstrated by Area Fan in his post about Ryan Winterswyk. If I were a parent looking for a good school and a great football program, I would not hesitate to send them there.
OK; none of these kids went to St Paul? And plus how many kids are going to attend a higher education’s, from area public schools, just look at football why should a parent send their kid there?
Ryan Winterwyk played Safety on the 2002-03 Back to Back CIF Championship team.
Here's an update on recruiting at La Habra.
http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2009/04/13/football-recruiting-la-habras-quezada-up-to-three-offers/43367/
EasyE check this out....
La Habra High player makes the Lombardi and Lott Trophy watch list.
http://www.broncosports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=48553&SPID=4061&DB_OEM_ID=9900&ATCLID=3717216
to stevie
No lie, I am definitely not a St Paul guy. You could clearly tell that from all (many) comments on the various blogs over the past couple of months. Especially the baseball blogs about St Paul going to the finals in Division 5 last year. They should not be in Div 5 etc.....they have not beat any real good teams.....ec...
I am not putting Montebello H.S. down, nor the people who live there. I am much the same, as I have children, etc... I played ball with several great people from Montebello. If I made it sound as you say, I was wrong.
My point is that this coaching change has brought so much attention to it, and some Montebello fans are suggesting that they are going to go a long way now.
If my son was playing for a particular school and they were very,very average and they got a new head coach who won CIF at St. Paul, I believe I would not have such high expectations. I would hope they were to have a real good season (and improve slowly), but some of the comments made over the past month or so by some Montebello people (Take us to the "promised land" and all of that) are in my mind too much. To expect a Coach to take an average ballclub and get to the "promised land" quickly is asking too much of him.
He had a lot of help over at St Paul. A lot of that help is not going to Montebello with him. At least that is what I heard.
I do not think the new head coach really enjoys hearing all of those "great expectations"! It definitely adds a little pressure to the position. Let him coach, and if the process of his coaching happens to be great, then there you go.
I do not want Montebello to turn out to be another El Rancho, where there is very high head coach turnover. One reason is (I believe) is the "great expectations" of the parents.
As my experience goes, do not plan on it. Montebello has done average (I may have said at best), and to go from average to CIF Power is very difficult
Griffin cant make grades, i think its gonna be more of the same old things at school. i ask when is it gonna be about education? we are ask for money at fundraisers to help our school but were does it go, sports. Does sports make us acceptable to society. And nothing matters but that, give me a break.
Hey sport fan are you stupid? Or you’re a racist, or do you think the families of MHS football team should not love their kids and the school they attend? Wow God is not going to come down and coach you!!! I think He might be busy sport fan “to coaching us” but maybe you know. Plus as you would like no one should blog without a CIF game for that matter… what?…..you are a st paul guy no doubt, we MHS like our new coach but please don’t put us down to make a point. Montebello football program is a good one because it has kids and it’s our kids. So step back fxxl and watch.
to Dr Del Rio
First. La Serna is not good enough to take any team for granted. We should have noticed that when they beat Pioneer (What, 10 or 11 league wins in this decade? Maybe 10 or 11. It could be 7 or 8) 9 to 8 a couple of days earlier.
"Anything" can happen? Come on! La Serna beat Cal three times (I think) last year by a total of 3 runs. Did you think they were going to blow Cal out? Both teams reached the CIF Quarterfinals.
Can we name one real good team La Serna has beaten this season?
Cal? Yes!! West Torrance!! They might be down this year but check the playoffs over the past few years.
I guess Burke pitched well. The defense let him down. But he, like his older brother, MAY NOT be quite as good as all these "La Serna is it" fans are making him out to be. Cal is a young team. I know he is one heck of an overall athlete! How old is Burke? Is he older than most? If so, one year could make a huge difference. Is he 19? In general, are all the Burke's a little older? I do not know. I have only heard!!
The "co-coaching" thing at La Serna! What I have to say is part "semi-educated guess", talk from people who know La Serna, and maybe some guessing.
Some PARENTS did not like Manzo. He was a real guy and did not hold back sometimes. They knew they had this experienced Cal Poly ex player, currently an assistant at Rio Hondo College (and son of Anthony G. sr), wanting and waiting for a high school coaching job.
These parents had contact with Anthony Jr (they were together in the stands), and they realized that Anthony, like many coaches in the area, felt La Serna High School Baseball was a gold mine. And in the local scheme, it may be.
These very "influential" parents took the next step. I do not know why. Maybe Manzo did not give them enough attention that they needed emotionally.
Anyone who attended La Serna games could see this "group of very important "administration influential" parents putting their minds together. At times questioning "just about everything" that was going on on the field. Hey, how much was their to question? (I do not care about "coach of the Year" becauase that is selected by Roger, and Roger almost always picks the guy with the best record, just like he rates teams by the record with little consideration of who they have played).
Manzo's team went 14 and 1 in league. Do we realize how hard that is to do? I do not care about all the talent. Like you said "anything can happen in baseball". Pioneer almost knocked off La Serna the other day. When you have all the talent, sometimes it is a good job just not to screw it up!! Keeping all the ego's together as a "team" is not that easy. The same page!! And "sweep" the teams you "should sweep".
Well, they went to the administration, or had their "representative' representing them do it. And these were important people: including father of very important past, present, and future players and the son of an ex mayor of Whittier, who I believe is on Gonzales's staff.
Now it is in the books. Coach asked to resign. "Co-Coaches hired for La Serna Baseball". NOT!! Anthony is by far the most qualified and is essentially the head coach. He has no "teaching credential" and La Serna hired a teacher, George, and the off campus Gonzales to co-coach to make it look good. They believe in the "On Campus Coach" and did what they had to do.
Those "influential parents" wanted Manzo out and Gonzales in. They got it!!!! There was no mention of George. But George was helping in the "overall scheme"
Similar happening over at La Mirada Football only I heard it was not the parents but the Athletic Director.
Come on!! Muschetti is the real HEAD COACH. He is with them all the time. He is the most experienced (quarterback of Colorado under Neuheisal, coached under Neuheisal, and a Mt. Sac Champion team). And, I hear the players are liking it. And the defensive coordinator is, not the co-head coach Lynch as read in the Daily News(the on campus teacher), but Coach Brookes.
As I said: some pretty educated guesses, some talk from La Serna people, and maybe a little guessing (but I, personally, do not consider any of this a guess)
All of this Montebello football stuff. When is the last time Montebello won league? Not a very strong league (except that one monster (Schurr) season a couple of years ago)! Or a CIF game for that matter? Come on!!!
The way people are blogging, an outsider might think this "Montebello Football Program" has been a real good one. Come on. They have been an average football program at best!! God is not going to come down and coach for you!! Sorry! Why would all the best available coaches come to Montebello when there are so many areas to look?
I do realize that if you were successful and hired a great coach, your program will improve considerably and quickly!!
Give this guy a chance.
great article Roger, except for the part of the administration. I do realize that football is a money making sport for the ASB, so the administration would probably try to do their best.
But, many administrations do not care enough about the sports at their own schools. I have written on this very important subject before, and based on my experience, I will stick with it. Over, and over, and over again, principals and AD's hire head varsity coaches without putting in the time and effort. Why? THEY SIMPLY DO NOT CARE!! Some do. Many do not!!
On your side though, football is the one sport that my perspective is least supported. Because football may put $$$$$$$$$$ into the Associated Student Body Fund!!!
A few years ago I spoke with a pair of young men who had played for La Habra on their 2003 championship team. The two admitted to never have started a game, but both had played a fair amount as back-ups and on special teams. (Fast Forward)The two went on to join the Marine corp, serve in Iraq and completed their tours of duty honorably. The two young men told me stories of how many of the lessons they had learned while playing for coach Mazzotta and his staff had helped them to sometimes laugh at tough situations that others thought to be unfair or unattainable. I agree Reality Check that some individuals may not belong in certain high school programs, but there is something to be said about playing for a winning program. The lessons learned could last a lifetime.
The answer is easy Anonymous, any good parent first and foremost wants their son or daughter to receive the best education possible. A school with a tradition of good academics should be at the top of the list when choosing a school. If you happen to have a son or daughter that excels in academics as well as athletics then you obviously may want to choose a school that offers both. There are a few schools in the area that have a tradition of great academics, but just a few that offer both great academic and great athletic programs. By doing some research a parent could easily find which school they might consider enrolling their talented child at.
We could end this whole debate by simply saying that you can't be a pro athlete before you're 20, or after you're 35. This could be justified by realizing it is a requirement imposed by a private employer.
As for getting out of a commitment after a coach leaves, it is wholly justified, because the terms of the deal have been breached.
curious,how is a kid able to transfer out to another school, and come back to that school,and be able to legally play sports.(football) his parents sure like to move alot.
Anonymous: Although your questions weren't directed at me I would like to address them.
#1 A kid should go to a school that will benefit them the most regardless of traditions. If a school has a great tradition but a kid is not fitting in or getting into trouble then that school is not the place to be for them. Some students performance better in smaller schools where they can get more attention in the classroom and in sports.
#2 Most kids want to be part of a Championship program and then they want to get playing time. I believe it should be reversed go where you can play first then the best program available to you. What is the sense in winning title if you didn't participate in getting that title? It would be better to go somewhere you can play ask the #5, 6,7 and 8th running backs at USC. Kids usually think they are better then they really are and underestimate their competition.
#3 Once again every kid is different so the best school for each kid is different.
So *help* should a kid go to a school that has a program with a lot of tradition? Easye what is at the top of the list for a kid? Do you believe a particular school could help a young student?
Drake Griffin couldn't’t make the team at Long Beach Poly but (“concerned said”) are we as a school going to fill the bill again? How is this change? And no one wants to ruin our school but is this more of the same? If this does happen why ridicule Coach Gonzales? I hope we get it straight!!
Ok so the KID they are refering to for St Paul taht just came back is Drake Griffin he will be a Junior and he was enrolled at Long Beach Poly for a little while. When i asked him why he left he said that he was starting to get involved with the wrong crowd. Even if someone else is footing the bill for this kid it would be no different than it is at a bunch of other schools. I know than when i was in school Cantwell offered two of my friends who played basketball a chance to go their and they would pay their tution. Good Luck Montebello, i remember playing against teams from there that took, pride, honor, and tradition to the field. Hopefully you recapture it. St Paul continue to defend the PIT as you have for as long as Coach A has been there. Everyone grow up these are kids we are talking about and Adults are ruining it for all of them let them just play. Good Luck and leave all of the drama to someone on a soap opera. THIS IS FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!! LET YOUR PLAY DO ALL THE TALKING!!!!!
Grid Iron Fan, as a fan of high school football I too have followed La Habra's football program. IMO La Habra is one of the areas most consistant football programs. I have been to many of their games and always come away impressed with their tough style of play. Their players are well coached, their schemes on Offense and Defense are fun to watch and always well developed. Their games have that Texas Friday night lights atmosphere to them (I have been to a few) and their fans are absolutely loyal to the program.
Coach Mazzotta seems to have built a program that is based on a tradition of developing young men who believe in hard work and dedication to the program as well as to their school and community.
SPH, You are correct I did not play football for St. Paul, but I did Play for a program that had a great tradition much like that of St Paul. It is a shame that those great traditions have changed so much and I agree that some good kids are being used in this whole mess of trying to revive a once great program. However, there are still some programs out there that truly believe in the values I stated in my previous post. It is a shame that many kids do get used as pawns in an attempt to increase enrollment at schools that are struggling to keep their doors open. Let us all try to find and comment on those programs that carry on the traditions that I mentioned in my previous post, including what positives there might be in St. Pauls upcoming season.
To Dr. Del Rio-
Re your comment on the co-coach thing at
La Serna, please note my inquiry to Roger
Murray in the middle of March. Apparently,
the situation is being used to get around
the coaching requirements of the District.
It must be legitimate. They got rid of
a Coach of the Year in Coach Manzo a couple of
years ago and worked the system to implement
a Co-Coaching arrangement so one doesn't
need a degree.
March 18, 2009
Batter! Batter! said:
Roger-
Pioneer's Palacios is #1 or #2 in three batting categories (OB, Slugging and Batting Average)in the state. Check out MaxPreps.
Roger-you might want to get out there and give this guy a lot of publicity. It looks like he deserves it!
Especially from a program that typically struggles.
http://www.maxpreps.com/california/baseball/state_sport.aspx?gendersport=boys,baseball&state=ca&urpath=,national
P.S. Did you ever answer the question as to whether public high school Varsity coaches require a college
degree or teaching credential? It's a relevant question during these times of teacher layoffs
How does Montebello look this season? How many returners do they have from last season?
EasyE, I agree with you 100%! Amen, brother. I can't wait until the season rolls around again.
The team I follow is La Habra. They have some neat things going on over there. They have a good amount of starters coming back, on both sides of the ball. It will be interesting to see if they can 3-Peat in their Division.
Lastly, I love watching a team play that has been taught to help an opposing player up after hitting him.
Markus tried to transfer to Montebello but he’s to behind in he’s credits, the only option is sf. A kid can’t go outside the community without a good reason. SP has their hands full and really doesn’t need more problems. We really didn’t need him, but sf does have a speedster we could use. It’s about winning or is it not? Let’s keep it real.
congrats to Cal baseball , but nieto you still suck!!!!.it appears la serna may have took this one for granted. its great when such big rivalries meet anything can happen. still dont get the co coach thing at la serna any info on that situation would be greatly appreciated.
I agree Easye; but should a kid who believes a coach went out of his way to destroy his chance playing high school football. Like you say you’re an old timer but when a school only wants to increase enrollment and disregards’ a paying student that might not be tall enough or whatever, gets no loyalty, dedication, honor, or brother hood. With all due respect Easye I’ll bet you didn’t play HS ball for St Paul? I hope (coach G) his destructive behavior and strong will he can control.
Dear Mr. Murray,
The reason that no girls from La Serna, weren't on any of the Girls team for All Cif consideration was that they simply weren't nominated by their coaches. I am on the Coaches Association board as well as on the CIF Advisory Committee, and the fact is that if players aren't nominated by the coaches, then they don't get looked at. Also wanted to point out that you didn't mention the fact that in Div VII 3 girls from St Paul made the All CIF Team, Justine Telles made 1st team and Alicia Aguilar and Natalie Hernandez made 2nd team. Also the Swordsmen boys had Adrian Montecinos and Adrian Reyes on 1st team and Rory Mulcahey and Jun Cho on 2nd Team in Div VII. Just wanted to point that out to you. Also why is that both the boys and girls All Area Soccer teams aren't actually on the online page, while both basketball teams are? A bit of af a discrepancy I believe on your papaer's part. I think they deserve the same credit.
Thank you.
Not to change the subject, but lets all try something new. Why don't we all try to blog something positive about high school football for a change and discuss which programs in the area are going to fare well in the upcoming season. Many of us understand that there are many issues regarding the changes that have occurred at St. Paul and Montebello. I am an old timer who loves what high school football stands for, hard work, loyalty, dedication, honor, brotherhood and class. I for once would like hear from some of the high school faithful blog about their football programs. It seems to me that there are some bloggers on this site that know a thing or two about high school football. Instead of all of the whinning and complaining, lets talk about the best returning players to watch out for, best coaching staffs, best fans, best place to watch a game, best mascot, best food, lets hear from past players describe their teams traditions and pre-game rituals. lets clear the air and accentuate the positives of high school football.
I truly loved Coach G and his staff I think its best for SP and MHS that this happened but in all fairness I did hear first hand the same thing about our starting linebacker coming back lastweek don't get me wrong we NEED him but fair is fair I have heard Coach A is flipping the bill on this one. We pay our tuition and I know Ms. Barr has specific rules on recruiting I think Ms. Barr has her eyes closed on certain concerns.
joe jones ,
Not all of us feel the same as you do. Before you start throwing stones, better get the facts straight. As for tuition, a certain LB that just transfered out is now back at SP! As he left for obivious financial reasons.How is this possible? All his tuition being promised by Marijon Ancich, that's how. Maybe CIF should go down and look into that. Those are hard facts not just rumors as I know firsthand. As for the players cleaning the field house, Good! It's due for a good cleaning. People of SP , let it go already. Coach Ancich has a million skeletons in his closets. If you want it to be posted all year and not worry about football then so be it. Otherwise let all that bull about he said she said stuff go away.
SP haters. You really need to stay out of the Montebello blogs and concentrate on your own problems. #1 the only problems with tuition promises are from Jesse Mumoz and recently as a couple of weeks ago, Jesse was still promising paid tuition for the boys if they would not leave the program and for some to return. #2 Not all SP alumni feel the way the famous 6 or 7 haters do. Where do we get a lot of info? "From the inner circle of alumni". #3 The process to select the new coach was a very complete and through process. Many candidates were interviewed and put thru the process. I do not think Pete Gonzalez parents had anything to do with it. From what I understand they were very loyal supporters to the SP Program. They are nice people but not related to Mayor of Montebello. That idea is stupid and demeaning to the selection board.#4 I really do think that Marion A is related to Principal Barr.
Go Montebello. Go SP and SP please stay in your own hateful blogs.
Now a Oiler supporter.
Do the CIF awards follow the same rules for soccer as they do for football? It isn't really up to the individual coaches as much as it's the responsibility of the League Rep.
More amazing is your defense of Gonzalez after letting a slew of other coaches get reamed on this site. Love that non-biased viewpoint! Are you getting free drinks at the Firehouse?
Roger,
Thanks for the reply.
I find that odd since they finished #2 and have the returning ALL CIF Defensive Player from the CIF Champ Team. She is only a Junir this year and not even a nod on third team.
Anyways Thanks for the update.
Joe Jones, who are you? a Parent, Uncle, or Cousin, that would know anything that went on at Saint Paul, with Pete. Don`t just come here and make accusations without supporting them. I want to know. Please share.
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Yo, Del Rio Fan:
The Daily News All-Area Girls Soccer teams (first and second) ran in Wednesday (04-01) edition. You heard correctly, there are no La Serna players on any of the three All-CIF-SS, Division IV teams.
Coaches nominate players from their teams for all-CIF consideration. Not sure why no La Serna girls were acknowledged by Soccer Coaches Association.
California placed Junior midfielder Jasmine Martinez on the first team, senior forward Anaceli Ugarte on the second team and freshman forward Brianna Ramirez and sophomore goalkeeper Morgan Terranova on the third team.
La Mirada had three players recognized with All-CIF honors: Junior defender and WDN Player of the Year Natalia Ledezma was named to the Division III first team, senior midfielder Lauren Cope was second team and junior midfielder Lauren Nanez was third team.
The area did not fare this season in terms of all-CIF selections.
Those were the only local players acknowledged among the six Divisons.
Any idea when the All Area Teams for Woman's Soccer will be released. I also heard that no La Serna women were on the ALL CIF teams any idea why? THANKS.
Look at you Roger, going to bat for Pete. Class act Murray, even if you don't agree with his past. I don't know if you do but, most don't.
That took some stones because you will get crucified if he continues his ways. Hopefully he will run legit, it's hard if you want to win.
Rodger your so blind that you refuse to see the truth about this man! all I can say is good luck montebello, because you'll need it. Oh, Pete can we turn your smart n finals keg's in so we can use the deposit money to pay for some past due tution for the players you promised that they would be covered oh, sorry Roger you didn't know about that either, ask the players that were cleaning the field house.
I think we all know who is starting all this crap one of our very own who did not get the job. We have all heard the comments out of your mouth. The best thing would be if you could get a job at Schurr. Stop kicking up down.
One more thing if a student didn't make grades last year but has turned it around this year to play football do we let him or is he not allowed? Of course he is allowed and Coach Gonzalez was right to say everybody can play.
Come on man grow up.
Yo Roger,
Thanks for setting the record straight for now. As I agree give this staff a chance and than bring on the praise or criticism.
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Roger, most of all the true Oilers and fans know that most of the crap talking is from the idiot St. Paul fans. We have said it many times they have nothing else to do but bad mouth Coach and his staff. The funny thing about it is that from what I understand some of his staff are St. Paul Alumni's but tthey seem to be pretty miserable people over in SFS.
I myself met Coach Gonzalez lastweek and I know MHS needs someone to turn the program around and I beleive he is the person.
I actually feel bad for the guy but it doesn't seem to bother him a bit.
Once again go MHS and St. Paul people worry about your school and your football program.
Yo, Area Fan,
Nothing yet.
Yo Roger,
Any news on the 2009, 605 All Star Game and roster nominations?