Trial underway in Yucaipa baby death from 2006

I actually know this girl and im not saying anything good nor bad, i just hope with this trial the truth will come out and justice will be served.

Lisa is actually my niece- The whole family knows she did not do this and that it was her mother Kathrine, who left the court today saying "I hope she hangs" This same mother (K) lied to police as well as the family at one point in the beginning saying she tried to give the baby CPR. The judge did not allow so many things in, but it still looks good for Lisa. Please pray for the jury to come to the right conclusion.

Your wrong how could you kill your granddaughter that is just an innocent baby she was 6 months old she would of been three last December she was just a baby not even crawling yet not a tooth in her lil month she couldn't even say a word and now your daughter is going to spend the rest of her life in jail shes never going to see the day light again how could you be alive and not even care of what you have done to so many people you killed a baby you sent your daughter to jail your other granddaughter lays in someone else's arms and your just fine with it how could you u be a person how can you live day to day with everything you caused how can you look at us and smile I hate you I hope you get what you get it would come back to you one day and you will not have a soul by your side I hope I could be there the day you die watch you suffer just like your daughter and granddaughter have I cant believe have to know who you are how can you let her sit there for something you did how can you I have 3 babies of my own and I could never hurt my babies like you have ever I dont think any mother father grandparent aunt uncle great-grand parent ext could ever do what you have done to that hopeless baby or let there child go to jail for something they didnt do I went to court I saw you there you never let a tear come off your face what kinda mother are you how could you sit there look at your daughter hear whats going on and not let a single tear fall from your face how could you how could you I hate you cant look at you cant speak to you and its because your a baby killer your letting your daughter do life Im not allowed to go to court and see the end off this b/c my family is scared of what I would do I cant be there for my cousin b/c of you the family has nothing to do with you b/c you killed a baby not b/c your poor we all r poor confess to what you did

today, she was found guilty on 1 count and true on on a another... read the transcript- and deadlocked on 1.... This was hard, but the jury wanted to go home for spring break... they were laughing and giggling when they came in for the verdict, misleading the family to believe they figured it out.... it was hard to hear what was said, but we are strong and know that in the appeal it WILL be different... I know with all I have that Lisa did not do this.... and in the halls Kathy told Joey she did not (meaning Lisa) and a sheriff's heard her and did nothing... in the end karma will catch you... she will have to answer and we all know WHO SHE is.... not like any of her 8 younger sisters' or brothers' have had any broken bones or traumatic events in their lives because of her... (K) i know not to cry cause she cannot stand to hear a baby cry- my skin in my mouth between the lips and under the tongue are not the same, cause she would put her hand, stuff my little froggy or anything in my mouth to stop the crying... or grab David by the hair and jerk him up and say "look at the rabbit dance" Not like any of us hid from her (K) C under the couch, me in the closet others anywhere they could... II hate my memory- it's a curse, but I am stronger for it... this is why the ADA refused to let me testify, as I spent 7 days in the hallway and nothing to show... (K) lived with me for four months and I made her leave cause she was beating her kids... I wanted the best for them as all my family did... I know (K) has a lot coming, karma and the lord will prevail- have faith- believe- and trust... who could ask for anything more?

Ok people if you think that kathy did this then why the hell do you people keep showing up with her to places like court and jesse's funeral and how in the hell could you let her go to Iyana's funeral. How could any of you be in the same air space as someone you think is a baby killer. I am sick of seeing that family talking to kathy while supporting Lisa at the same time. YOU CAN'T DO BOTH. I have come to believe they should both be in jail because one of them killed her and the other heard what was going on and did nothing. You can't tell me that in a tiny trailer like that you wouldn't hear the slamming around of a child even if you claim that you were outside on the step having a cigarette. You hear everything in a trailer. Especially with the damage done to her there is no way it was quiet. Also according to the coroner this was not a quick thing it took awhile to do all that damage, longer then it takes to smoke a cigarette. So please someone explain. I hope Lisa's family learns to pick a side and I pray that the side they pick is Iyana's.

None of us talk to K at all... Her other daughter is the only one... We have banned her from the family, but we can't stop her from public areas. I have kept myself and my children over 100 miles away from that household for many years, as well as reporting them to cps many times over the past 20 years only to have K threaten to kill me blah blah blah... Yet the DA would not allow anything I had to say including the fact the 2 idiot detective were contacted by many to say what they knew and within a week they came to Barstow to interview me with no results. Its hard you you keep screaming and no one hears you.

This is all a load of garbage....Lisa would never of hurt any of her children and if you think she could then your probably stupider than you look.....I knew Lisa growing up and she never once had a violent problem. I remember Kathy always hitting her and her sister Pammy. How could they find her guilty when jury kept falling a sleep and the judge already made his mind up about the case and her lawyer could of do a much better job but he must of thought she was guilty as well. If Lisa did this than why did Kathy tell Lisa she was sorry and why did Kathy tell Lisa to call her sister instead of the police?...The DNA from the hair was a possible match...It was not a full match and they could only test 9. If they were able to match the rest of the hair sample then it could have been shown as Lisa's or maybe not a possible match for the baby. SO many things in this case does not add up but people are to blind to see and they just want to throw who ever they can in jail whether the person is innocent or not.

As I read the comments I am completely shocked. Seriously, Lisa has never had a violent problem..what about the holes in the walls in the trailer. By her own admission Lisa punched at least one of them when she was angry!! You believe that we wanted to finish for spring break...all of us have real jobs that we came back to...we didn't have the choice of sitting in that court room for two weeks unlike the rest of you. Iyana Graham had broken ribs that were healing...do you understand that..healing meaning they were broken previously....she had an arm that was broken two to three months prior that healed improperly and was considered deformed. Several of you testified that you saw Lisa and the girls at least once a week even if it was only for a few minutes...are you all that dumb?? You didn't notice it?? I noticed it in the picture that I was shown one time! Again you the "loving family" if you believed that Katherine Van Dyne was capable of hurting Lisa, Ana or Iyana why didn't any of you offer up your homes to Lisa and the girls. Wasn't their safety more important than anything else?

It's very easy for you to place blame on someone else but you are all guilty of child abuse and neglect. We the jury based our verdict on the facts...Lisa never said she ever saw her mother hit Iyana...she only said she was alone with her for 10 minutes. Iyana's injuries did not happen in 10 minutes...3 broken ribs, a broken collarbone, a fractured skull, not to mention all the previous abuse that was already healing!!! You really think that she wouldn't have cried?? How any of you could show up to court everyday is beyond me...the fact of the matter is NO ONE, not aunts, uncles, sister Pam, cousin Joe, Katherine or anyone did anything to prevent the abuse that was happening to poor Iyana. Iyana choked on her own blood from the punctured liver...that poor baby endured more pain in her 6 months of life than most of us will ever experience.

If friends and family thought Lisa should have had a better defense then they should have hired one for her...but I guess that wasn't important right!!! Continue to blame everyone else but remember that the only true victim here is Iyana Graham!!

what happen to that baby is deeply sad but having the wrong person behind bars is not gonna being her back....Lisa should of had a better defense and the family should of hired a better one....and no one knew what was going on with the baby....babies are all naturally fussy so if you cant tell from the outside then how is anyone suppose to know. Lisa was only 18 when it happen how could she hide the marks so well?...how could she hurt that baby with out showing any marks....and do you honestly think that Jessie and Chad thought something was going on that they would of just sat there and let it happen and Jessie was there a lot. I love Lisa to death but she is not smart enough to figure out ways to hurt the baby with out leaving marks....Nether is Kathy but if someones been doing it long enough they can learn how to hide it better, and from my knowledge Kathy use to hit her younger brothers and sister with her being the oldest and her daughters. When you do that for soo long you become from good of hiding it. Just because there is holes in the wall does not mean that she hit that baby....She could of done it to release stress or to try and calm down. I punch walls when I am mad but that does not mean i go around hitting people. I do it so i do not hit any one. SO just because she made holes in the wall does not include that she hit or was Violent to anyone but herself.

Anonymous is right, we are all to blame. I babysat "baby girl" often and noticed alot , same with my brother Jesse (her dad) who lived with me, but each bruise, scratch, or other injury came with what I thought was a reasonable excuse from lisa. My brother would come home and ask me things like what do you think this or how do you think iyana got this and I would say well what does lisa say it is. He would tell me and we would just go along with it. I watched Iyana on a day her arm was broken. I noticed she wasn't using it so I asked lisa about it. She said she had just taken her to the doctor and he said that lisa had just been wrapping Iyana up in the blanket to tight and that her arm should be getting better in a couple of days. Well both me, my brother, and my other family believed that lie. We all talked about it and knew something sounded wrong with that but we couldn't figue out what since even a doctor couldn't see anything wrong. It didn't even cross our minds that she could be lying and never even taken her to a doctor. And that's why we are to blame. I can't describe the guilt I feal. If only we had not been so stupid and just looked into it, things would be different. To much didn't get realized about how she was developing until I had my own son and could compare. And for everything I noticed or even didn't notice I will never forgive myself for. It dosen't make up for what I didn't do but I did do one thing and that was tell my brother that iyanna could live with us. He was telling me one day how he didn't like lisa or the kids living with kathy because of how kathy use to treat lisa and how they would still fight with the kids there. So I said a don't have room for all of them but I could at least take iyana if he didn't think she was safe there. But he said that as long as lisa was there that she wouldn't let anything happen to the kids. Well looks like we were very wrong with that one. Just another thing I should have pushed. I can't say enough how very very sorry I am for not doing my part.

Are you serious...fussy...that is just plain ignorance. A baby with multiple broken ribs and a broken arm would be more than fussy. The fact of the matter is that no one cared enough to do something...So what if Lisa was only 18...she was old enough to have babies she should have been mature enough to care for them...and not only one but two babies!!! We all have stress but I don't go around punching walls or hitting people. If she was beat as a child then why did she live with her mother. Why didn't you help Lisa and those babies to get out of there. And regargless of what you say the right person is in jail...Iyana was not hit once, she had several fractures and bruises...YOU CAN'T HIDE BRUISES ON THE FACE!!!!! Lisa openly admitted to not taking the baby to the doctor...she would call and talk to his office on the phone...we all know that it does not work that way...she's a liar who got punished for not taking care of her child and allowing this to happen. Her one job in life was to protect those babies and Iyana paid the ultimate price.

But to ANONYMOUS, i'm not trying to say that what you where told was wrong but, people and doctors do lie, to cover there own butt. Maybe some of it is true, but maybe some of it isnt. Lisa hit a wall?! Wow, so i guess thats what it takes in this f***ed up county to convict one?! Its a hole in the wall, what is that to prove?! That if you have a hole in your wall your a child abuser? I don't get that, I know lots of people with holes in there wall, & I can tell you there far from being a child abuser or having severe anger problems. its true you cant lie about a bruise to the face if there was really one. During the period of this trial all I have done was prayed for the truth to come to light and maybe it has, and maybe it hasnt. It's just hard to know what really happened, because whos word can you trust?! And every loved one of lisas should have helped her if you knew what was going on in her house hold, but you didnt and you cant take it back, but lisa is still here, Iyana isnt and she was much to young to be taken. So if you knew anything weather it was her mother or her you should have helped, but thats the past and you cant change it, but if she is innocent, the truth will come to light just have faith. It's just so sad to read about what happen to this poor baby && I with out a flinch in my body think that who ever did do it, wheather it be lisa or her mother, should spend the rest of there lifes in prison because taking that little girls life was so wrong, no one should play god but god.

Dear Kandice, this has nothing to do with hitting a wall...that just proves she does get angry so to say she never gets mad or has a violent tendency is another lie.

Regarding the evidence that we were given, please tell me why any professional such as the Coroner or Paramedic would lie to cover their own butts? They have nothing invested in this other than one was trying to save her life and the other was trying to figure out what happened. There was much more evidence than just a hole in a wall. The fact that Lisa herself gave testimony that SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE WITH HER CHILD the night before, that Jesse never picked up the baby and that she left Iyana alone for 5 - 10 minutes while she smoked a cigarrette gave me no choice other than to believe that Lisa was the person who injured Iyana.

Iyana had several bruises on her face the day after she died...they were all different colors indicating that some were older than others. There were 12 people on that jury and all of us agreed that she was guilty of child abuse which resulted in death.

Hopefully next time they try Lisa the Prosecutor will be able to prove to the jury that she herself inflicted those injuries....I can tell you that we were very, very close to convicting her on count 1 which I believe carries a sentence of 25 to life. Hopefully next time Lisa won't be as lucky to have someone on the jury that needed "the smoking gun" Lisa Van Dyne is guilty as well as all of her family and friends who stood by and did nothing to help Iyana Graham. God Bless poor Ana because she doesn't have a chance in the world if she is being raised by anyone related to the Van Dyne family.

You say that lisa was a carring mother but what kind of mother dosen't take their kid to a doctor especially when their kid gets a broken arm. She might not of known it was broken but you can at least tell that something is very wrong when she is not moving it. A carring mother also knows their child and knows when something is wrong with their baby and can tell when it is just fussyness and when its something more. You can't tell me that lisa didn't notice that her baby was being abused. So either this carring mother knew her mom was doing this and did and said nothing, or she didn't do anything about it because she was the one doing it and finally killed her. I just don't see how a jury could not give this women the max sentence for the ongoing abuse and for the horrible way that she died.

Anonymous, thank you for being formal with the dear. I know that it took more then a hole in the wall to prove her guilty in the jury's eyes, its just sad because a hole in the wall is a hole in the wall, and if it means anything big, i don't know. To me its a hole in a wall, but if it where to have blood them maybe yes, by all means use that to all its full potentials. But as for professional' they lie even if they don't have too, they can make it look worse then it really is, but i don't know, I guess I've always just been a little out there when it came to things. As for the details of the case it's so hard to hear about it, because I know lisa and I'm not standing up for her or defending her, I'm just saying who ever did do this to Iyana needs to pay with there life, even if it is Lisa who did do it. And as for the mother & daughter going back at it, well thats just plan wrong, some family i guess. I've actually heard story's from people that say Lisa has confessed that she has done it & it was an accident. So i dont know, I know nothing & thats how I like to keep it cause I dont want to be the one to Judge for it. But like i keep saying the truth will come to light whether it be good or bad for lisa. I just wish i knew the truth & I wish the whole world knew the truth, i guess thats just life. OHH yeah and as for Ana, no she is not being raised by anyone from the Van Dyne family.

And the whole reason for this is so Iyana Graham can have justice & Rest in Peace with her father.

Sorry but from what i know none of you guys were in the courtroom and even so maybe you were there a day or two..but it is not right that you all think lisa did it when i know my aunt kathy did it. A lot of the evidence was cracked and should of been dismissed from the start. and I've known Lisa all her life since she was a baby and and you guys have the nerve to say shes guilty then you guys do not know her at all.

Ya fussy.....babies get a little fussy when they are hungry, tired, even to get attention. Young mothers do not know....young mothers are not aware of things like that. she was a very caring mother....she loved her girls more than anything and how was she suppose to know that her mother was abusing them grandmas are not suppose to do that kind of stuff to their grandchild, and yes very deep as anything goes I am 100% that Kathy did it. It would not be the first time she has killed someone and it sure it not gonna be the last time. She is a murdering lazy greedy druggie. I know her personally she use to live with us for awhile her kids and her....she use to beat the crap out of them....and hide the marks well....Her husband beat the crap out of her for beating them because he was trying to stop her from attacking them. No one would do anything we tried....Lisa as long as i known her she has never ever hit anyone she pushed her mom once but she was trying to protect her self....Lisa was scared to leave......other people gave her places to stay but when your mother pushes you on the couch and gets in your face when your 7months pregnant just because you wanna move you'd be scared to.....

Ok, so no one has read my posts... Look, K was violent and I am sure it rubbed off, but Lisa was adamant about not being like her mom. Lisa had plans to move out with Jesse and the babies into her own trailer away from her mother and sister. Her aunt was taking care of this, but K got mad and did not want this to happen. It would have happened about a week after the baby died, the plan was in motion to get her out of there. The only one time K was around us after and she said she tried to give the baby CPR and may have hurt her more. we were told K had P called first instead of the police so K had time to go hide her dope at a friends trailer, she even sat there trying to figure out how she could collect welfare for a daughter in jail, a dead grand-daughter and a grand-daughter who was in the care of CPS. She even said "oh well the baby died in this month at this time so I'll still get a partial month." Then she played the poor me what am I gonna do card to bilk many of her neighbors out of money and a church only to spend it on herself for drugs and not one cent went to the funeral costs. We now believe that she may have killed or sister CeeCee as she is the one who found her dead- Think!!! Who can hang themselves in a closet on a hanger rack that is less than 4 ft off the ground? (it was a double rack)CeeCee was a full grown adult 5'6" 125 lb. But hey, if I end up dead someone better look at K as she has threatened to kill me several times, even while court was in progress. i just thank God she can't find me where I have hidden! I did things to stop her from being around children, I dropped out of high school to help care foe a niece and nephew so she would not be in the house with them. I knew I could go back and finish another time, but the needed K away from them then. (Now I have 4 degrees 1 a MA in Early Childhood Development) I know to much of what has happened in this family caused by K, I just wish I could have done more, as do many of us. Trust me, this will haunt many for the rest of their lives.

in regards to amy, amy you are right,if as you say, you babysat iyana a lot, and you didn't
notice anything too unusual, too unexplanable, how
do you think a barely 18-year-old girl is going to?

as for the jury -- there were so many things that
weren't allowed to be said. so many things you weren't informed of, if you had been fully informed, you would have no doubt that lisa is innocent.

jesse believed in lisa, and visited her every week.
jesse also visited lisa's aunt's house regularly, up until his tragic death, and even lived in there condo for a while, when had no place else to go. I know that jesse knew who killed his baby girl, and that person was and is not lisa.

lisa's family were trying to get her and the girls
out of that house for months, her mother wouldn't allow it, and lisa was still a minor. her mother received welfare money for lisa and her girls and she did nat want to lose the welfare.

lisa's mother used to go out everyday, for several hours a day, with a companion, this companion died at the end of february, lisa's mother was then home
24-7, she babysat at times, this explains why nothing ever happened before, but for the last four months of iyana's life lisa's mother abused this poop baby. by the way, 10 minutes is a very long time to be abused, i know. look at a clock, think about all
the things that can happen, you will be sick after two minutes.

the coroner said that she had broken bones that were
approximately one to three weeks old. lisa's mother babysat for iyana 15 day's prior to her death for several hours, while lisa, jesse, her sister pam, and other friends went to a concert for lisa's birthday.
"GEE, I WONDER"

IF THE JURY HAD KNOWN, WHAT I KNOW, JESSE KNEW, WHAT THE WHOLE WORLD, OUTSIDE OF THE COURTROOM, KNOWS. LISA WOULD BE FREE TODAY, AS IT SHOULD BE.

So Linda...what you are saying is that Lisa was so afraid to leave her mother, that she left her children with her to go to a concert?!? Come on...listen to what you are saying...everyone believed in her and knew what Katherine was capable of but hey...let's go out and leave our children with the crazy drug addict...good, smart choice!!! I was on the jury and I was given information and based my opinion on the facts GIVEN....I guess the other 11 people were also wrong in what they decided too...

Although alot of damage could have been done in a 10 minute time frame...do you honestly believe that she didn't hear the baby crying, screaming...anything???? Why didn't she put her damn cigarette down and check on her baby if she knew that her mother was abusing her or even if she thought she was capable of...which by all the family statements you all knew or thought she was...you cannot tell me that Lisa was so stupid and ignorant that she didn't notice bruises and marks on Iyana. Regardless of who believes Lisa is innocent, we the jury did not...regardless of age, gender, religion or anything else, the moment anyone decides to have a child and brings one into this world, it is our job as parents to do whatever it takes to protect our children, whether it be from their mother, father, grandmother....anyone...Lisa did none of those things and therefore is guilty of neglect and child abuse which ultimately led to the untimely death of Iyana Graham.

ANONYMOUS, YOU ARE NOT ANONYMOUS ANYMORE. YOU ARE ALSO
THE SMUG DETECTIVE ON THE WITNESS STAND, YOU ARE THE
PROSECUTOR, YOU ARE THE JUDGE AND THE EXECUTIONER. I KNOW WHO YOU ARE. YOU ARE A WELL TO DO VERY WELL OFF
UPPER MIDDLE CLASS LADY WHO CAN AFFORD BOTH THE OVER
$100,000.00 ATTORNY'S FEES AND THE $500,000.00 BAIL SO THAT LISA WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO SPEND 3 YEARS IN CUSTODY. JUST AT THE WHIM OF THE DEFECTIVE, THAT IS, DETECTIVE AND THE PROSECUTION lady, BOTH WITH POLITCAL AMBITION. THE PHONY, CONSTANT CHANGES OF PUBLIC DEFENDERS WAS A JOKE AND NOT MISSED BY THE LOCAL NEWSPAPERS.
IM SURE EVERYONE CONCERNED REALIZES HOW FORTUNATE WE WERE TO SEE A REAL LIVE PERFECT PERSON LIKE YOU IN ACTION. IT'S AMAZING THAT IN THIS DAY OF HIGH TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU DON'T OWN A MIRROR. I WOULD LIKE TO WRITE YOUR LIFE'S STORY BUT I'M ALMOST OUT OF PAPER AND I DON'T WANT TO OPEN ANOTHER ROLL.
YOU PROBABLY ASKED FOR THE EXTRA SECURITY BECAUSE YOU OBVIUOSLY DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERNCE BETWEEN A DEDICATED FAMILY AND A MOB.
I HOPE THIS TRIAL DIDN'T INCONVINIENCE YOU OR MAKE YOU LATE FOR YOUR SPRING BREAK.....

Rick...I am not the upper middle class lady you are thinking of. I am a normal citizen of this county who was summoned for jury duty and had the duty of listening to this case objectively. I do not have $100,000 or $500,000 for that matter at my disposal. I do however know the difference between a dedicated family and an angry mob...my dedicated family would have done whatever necessary to get me a DECENT defense...I am not talking Johnny Cochran or anything but anyone would have been better than the "Public Pretender" that you allowed Lisa to have.

I was not scared of you or your family...the extra guards were there at the discretion of the judge. Please don't flatter yourself for one minute by thinking that any of you were intimidating!

You cannot possibly begin to write the rest of my life's story...you can't even write your own..I understand that the family needs someone to blame and let it be the detective, the prosecutor, judge and jury but at the end of the day it is you...her family and friends who have to deal with the fact that a little inncocent baby girl is dead, her mother is in prison, her father is dead and her grandmother is free...you did NOTHING to help her situation and even if you did it wasn't enough...dedication means "self-sacrificing devotion"...you her dedicated family should have done more...helped her more...gotten her and those girls out of there...but okay blame us - whatever makes you sleep better at night!!

anonymous, when you say we did nothing, you just don't know everything we tried to do. that information was not allowed. lee salgren, one of the last to testify, testied that he went and took her to pick up her prescriptions. that was all that was allowed. not the fact that she had been off of them for some time. not that they were dangerous drugs to be off of. here is a list of them.
ON JULY 18TH, 2006 LEE SALGREN WENT TO RITE AIDE PHARMACY TO PICK UP HER REFILLS. WHEN HE PICKED THEM UP, HE WROTE DOWN THE NAMES AND DOSES OF THE PRECRIPTIONS. WHEN HE DELIVERED THE PRECRIPTIONS TO KATHERINE VAN DYNE, SHE TOLD HIM, "THANK YOU FOR PICKING THEM UP FOR ME. I REALLY NEEDED THEM, BECUASE
I HAD BEEN OUT SINCE BEFORE THE 21ST, OF JUNE."
KATHERINE VAN DYNE HAS BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH SCHIZOPHRENIA, AND BIPOLAR. AMONG OTHER THINGS.
LIST OF PRECRIPTIONS LEE SALGREN PICKED UP:
LORAZEPAM 0.5 MG ONE DOSE TWICE DAILY (ANTIDEPRESSANT)
DEPAKOTE 500 MG ONE IN MORNING 2 AT NIGHT (ANTIDEPRESSANT)
EFFEXOR 150 MG ONE DOSE TWICE DAILY (ANTIDEPRESSANT)
TRAZODONE 100 MG ONCE AT NIGHT (ANTIDEPRESSANT)
SEROQUEL UNKNOWN AMOUNT, (ANTIDEPRESSANT)
COULD BE TAKEN AS NEEDED
PROPOXY 100/650 FOUR TIMES A DAY (PAIN KILLER)

LOOK THEM UP, I DID, UNFORTUNATELY WE DID NOT KNOW UNTIL AFTER THE FACT, THE SIDE AFFECTS, WE DID NOT KNOW THAT SOMETHING THIS HORRENDOUS COULD HAVE HAPPENED, NO ONE COULD HAVE.
THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW THE FACT THAT LISA'S MOTHER ASKED ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION,
"DO YOU THINK I COULD HAVE DONE THIS AND NOT REMEMBER, SINCE I WAS OFF MY MEDS." OF COURSE WE SAID YES. BUT THIS INFORMATION WAS NOT ALLOWED.

I DON'T BLAME THE JURY FOR THEIR VIRDICT. THEY COULD ONLY REACH A VERDICT ON WHAT THEY WERE ALLOWED TO KNOW. NO MORE NO LESS. AND THEY WERE ALLOWED VERY LITTLE. I BLAME THE D.A.'S OFFICE FOR NOT FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THE INVESTIGATION. IGNORING ALL THE INFORMATION. NOT REALLY CARING IF JUSTICE WAS DONE, ONLY IF SHE JUST GOT A CONVICTION.

BY THE WAY, WE HAVE ALL BEEN ASKING A QUESTION THAT I HOPE YOU JURORS, D.A., JUDGE, ANYBODY OUT THERE, CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS, EVERY SINGLE ADULT IN THE HOME IS ARRESTED, JUST BY VIRTUE OF THE FACT THAT IF THEY ARE IN THE HOME AND DON'T DO ANYTHING TO STOP IT, THEY ARE QUILTY OF ABUSE ALSO, AND ARE ARRESTED. THIS DID NOT HAPPEN IN THIS CASE -- WHY???
THEY HAD A GIRL JUST BARELY 18 THAT THEY COULD CONVICT WITH NO PROBLEM, THAT'S WHY. BUT IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT ANSWER, PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS, LET ME KNOW.

as my grandmother said, the whole court room didn't even know all the evidence to even consider on making a real verdict, as she says, "garbage in, garbage out,' the jury can only deside on what they know, a bunch of garbage

Amy,

You say that you babysat baby Iyana numerous times. And you saw all these bruises and asked your brother Jesse about there injuries. If you babysat her this often, as you say, why didn't you tell this in court or to the detectives instead of letting the jury think that Lisa was the only person that ever had charge of the baby.

Lisa's Grandmother.

Anonymous,

I am so amazed by your astute judgment of, not only the defendant, but the whole family. (After two weeks, how incredibly intuitive!) Where were you anonymous? When the family was in the court house for hearing after hearing sitting, or more likely standing in the cold hallway waiting to be called for their turn only to be called into the courtroom for 20-30 mins. and to be sent home with another POSTPONMENT!

Sorry you couldn't be there to see your detective hero on the stand during the prelims. smirking, while describing his attendance at the autopsy and all the injuries her personally observers. SIX MONTH YEAR OLD BABY REMEMBER?! It obviously did not bother him. He got on and off the stand grinning constantly. This same detective refused to carry through on a multitude of calls to his station regarding the case, EXPLAIN THIS!

As for the bail and attorney fees we could not come up with a million dollar bail or a million dollars in property to secure the bail nor, could we afford to pay 100,000 dollars retainer to a defense attorney, I'm sure that you would be able to find a way to do this with your intelligence and resourcefulness.

CONGRADULATIONS ON THE OUTCOME THAT YOU WANTED.

I thank God that I don't have to stand on judgment day and answer with you.

Anonymous,
You just can't hide your contempt for the hard working,
God loving, middle class relatives and friends of Lisa.
Why is it, that you think that we don't have feelings over the tragic loss of my grand-daughter. Your JOB was to convict Lisa not to pass judgement on the rest of us.
Go on with your pathetic life and stop thinking that
since you "did the right thing", you can now pass
judgment on anyone. You were better off before when no
one knew anything about you. Now that you have chosen
to flap your wings, everyone knows exactly who and what you are.
God Bless You.....

Dear All,

It is my hope that you never have to be put in this unique situation. Fragments of my existence remain scattered in that building, in that room, and in those chairs; as well as embedded in Lisa’s memory. You NEVER walk away quite the same person (I was one of jurors). Our verdict was compiled from the evidence and testimony brought to the courtroom. We all agreed to be committed and didn’t base our decisions on any outside factors, nor to vindicate Iyana’s death. We were fully aware whatever the outcome; it would immediately impact two individuals (Lisa and Anna).

It is incogitable how some use religion as a self-righteous card, as though to imply the lack of belief (religion) based on our verdict, or to imply that we’ll have to answer to someone for our decision. When it’s time to meet my divine maker, I will hold my head up high, knowing that I made the best decision possible based on the information presented and made available to me; it was by no means made with a malicious heart, a vested ego, or a hidden agenda. The law is not perfect, nor am I. I need not to further clarify my (“our”) position.

ANONYMOUS is passionate & driven, and will do great things. As I sat here in idle, this girl held her own ;)

Lisa is fortunate to have a strong and dedicated family (you were there day after day (it didn’t go unnoticed)). Focus your energy on Lisa and Anna. They will need you to continue to stand strong for them.

DEAR M A B,
YOUR PRESENCES DID NOT GO UNTICED EITHER, GOD BLESS YOU. WE WILL ALWAYS BE THERE FOR LISA, AND GOD WILLING -- AND IF NEEDED -- ANNA.
WE KNOW ANNA IS SAFE, LOVED, AND CARED FOR, NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT TO US.

The sleeping jurors should have been dismissed or the trial should have been declared a mistrial.

no one can judge anyone whoever did it weather it was lisa or her mother they know what they did and they will have to answer for it one day but until then u guys shouldnt point ur fingers and tell one another who to talk to and who not to talk to and if her mother did do it she is gonna have to live with killing a baby and putting her daughter away what kind of life is that living with all kinds of guilt might as well be dead but then again there are good points that lisa should have known her baby was hurt and didnt say anything i just hope that the truth finally comes out and lets this family come to rest even the van dyne family everyone just needs to stop talking sh*t no one knows exactly what happend or exactly who did it except for god so let him do the judging not you

even tho i didnt know u rest in peace baby Iyana