I'm so happy to see this finally happen.
It's just amazing when the whole world has to sit and watch this mentally ill, money grubbing woman pimp out these babies for months on end, knowing exactly what she is doing, and she is able to get away with it. What's really scary is what is going on when the cameras aren't there. Sad to say, but she's on her best behavior when the cameras are on. Her best behavior includes mishandling, poking, waterboarding, cheek poking and head dangling. I can't imagine what she does afterwards. Maybe it's better that she's away disfiguring her face. Better her than them.
18. why would newborns need a studio teacher while filming
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Because a studio teacher is more than just a teacher. They are charged with the welfare of the child on the set to make sure what is being done is developmentally appropriate. You can go to Paul Petersen's site micon.org and read about the role of the studio teacher.
I am curious to know if Angelina and Brad, Jennifer Lopez and Mark A., etc. had work permits or a studio teacher present to photograph their infants. Somehow I doubt it.
I am curious to know if Angelina and Brad, Jennifer Lopez and Mark A., etc. had work permits or a studio teacher present to photograph their infants. Somehow I doubt it.
You mentioned REAL celebrities in your comparison. Those people have REAL PROFESSIONALS to handle their business.
Nadya is a BOOTLEG "celebrity" who ain't got a clue as to how to play with the big boys. She is too caught up in getting paid to be patient and take the TIME to arrange things on the up and up.
Raul is going to be just fine.... HE didn't have a contract to film the babies and pay Nada. No money crossed hands. As the State says about the RadarOnline contract, (paraphrased) "This is a mini-movie".
ADMIN NOTE: OCTORAZZI is a LEGITIMATE NEWS AGENT with a real PRESS PASS from the L.A. County Sheriff. Octorazzi pays NO ONE for information and has NO CONTRACT WITH ANYONE FOR EXCLUSIVITY. Octorazzi Gets Published in the San Gabriel Valley Newspaper Group which is a legit news source. Octorazzi reports NEWS and does not MAKE news.
"You mentioned REAL celebrities in your comparison. Those people have REAL PROFESSIONALS to handle their business."
Yeah, I guess you're right. They have agents and special attorneys so they probably had it all in line.
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Did you guys see the amount crossed out? Do you think that first amount was $1m. I think, and not counting the second line (because I can't figure out why an amount would be broken up) that it was $100,000.00.
there were those lovely pictures of the twins when they were first born and it had all the older kids holding them. they received money for those pictures. i bet it took more than 1 hour to take the pictures and then brangelina gave the money away. what about their kids rights to access money that they have earned?
i have read my last comment. i am well and truely disappointed at what some people admit here.
it isn't about the kids. it is something else at work that has people writing such horrible things.
i don't condone everything that nadya has done but i wonder what is to be gained from such hostility to anything and everything she does. some of the writings are truely horrific. can someone really carry that much emotion for so many months?
much as some would like for the kids to be taken away from her, that is not going to happen. by making such a song and dance about any video performances then she will be destined to live on welfare.
I really cannot fathom why Nadya is being punished for something other people do but do with impunity.
gook luck sandy
also millie and lise, I understand why you want to be the devils advocate. without it the hate will just spiral.
what is going on in america that people can carry hate for so long?
sorry to see you go. i left once but returned .i missed octorazzi's pix and post. but noticed as you did all the negative things said so decided to stay and say my part.i feel there is hope in everyone.
there are other people working in the house looking after the babies when ro is not there. even though they have signed confidentiality agreements not to speak to the media i do not think that stops them from reporting if they think something is not right. really, think about it. do you honestly believe that the nannies would let anything horrible happen to the kids?
"i don't condone everything that nadya has done but i wonder what is to be gained from such hostility to anything and everything she does. some of the writings are truely horrific. can someone really carry that much emotion for so many months?"
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Susan, for weeks now (that I've been here) you have repeatedly said the same thing, "... how can you hate for so many months?"
For the same "months" people have been trying to tell you what it was that bothered them. For whatever reason, you have either ignored their comments or dismissed them as not being as important as your feelings. Why is it you can't comprehend what is going on here?
You have a person who has literally scammed the system for years now. But since she has gone public we can see what she has done, and are appalled at it. If there were others who were doing the same thing and came out publicly there would still be the same backlash.
What can be gained is people speaking out and changing what's wrong with our society. This is how laws are changed. This is how attitudes are changed. It is NOT okay to abuse the system that taxpayers work hard to support. It is NOT okay to think you are above the law.
susan replied to comment from BizzyBee | June 16, 2009 6:33 PM | Reply
oh that's right at the beginning people thought she wasn't american. remember that? telling her to go home!
Actually, no I don't. And anybody like that is to be ignored, anyway.
But thanks for trying to boil down what I have to say to THAT.
Okay, Susan, I just might have to skip over your postings from here on out. If you REALLY interpret the things I say that way.
I won't get in to a ridiculous and bogus debate just because we don't see eye to eye.
the children will not be taken from her as there is no grounds for that. having a rotten personality is no reason for anyone to have their kids taken away from them.
the kids are likely to be on tv like plenty of other kids. no body wants any child to turn out dysfunctional because of exposure to this medium. the well highlighted cases are certainly reason to be cautious. however not every child that acts or appears on tv is destined to become dysfunctional. for the list of sorry cases there are much more that live happy productive lives. a few to mind: natalie portman, jodie foster, brooke shields, paul petersen. not everyone stays in the spotlight. lucille ball's kids both appeared in her tv shows and they are never in the spotlight for any reason. they conduct their business interests without fanfare. each day kids are in ads and movies and sitcoms and and and. and really how many kids have gone off the rails? there were 5 partridge family kids but only bonaduce has made a name for himself as being ruined. was that really because of the experience of tv?
Susan- what is so hard about the concept of J-O-B?
If she were doing something to even PARTIALLY support them, I do believe there would be less antipathy towards her. Not completely gone, mind you, but less. But this is someone who seems to have an inordinate disdain for the working mentality.
As for comparisons to people like Jodie Foster ( need I remind you about the problems she's had with stalkers???) let's just for a minute remember that there is a huge difference between playing a part on screen and having your potty training and other private moments broadcast for all the world to see.
"Hello Jim Bob. Glad to see you've gotten over that nose-picking problem of yours."
Susan, in all sincerity, I think Nadya's children would benefit 1000% more by going in to a witness protection program where no STRANGERS would be even tempted to watch them ever again, They aren't actors, it's their LIVES people want to know about and quite frankly the only thing these children NEED is to not be exposed to that ANY MORE because they are already at risk with all the ridicule Nadya has brought upon herself with her actions.
Don't you in your heart of hearts know it would be MUCH healthier for them to live their lives without any strangers looking at them anymore for ANY reason?
Robin: I certainly can't speak for Susan but I agree that anonymity would be the best answer for this family. However, I can see no way for that to work unless the babies were all split up and I really don't think that would be wise. I believe there is a bond there that would always be there and if they grew up and found that they had been split off from their siblings they would always resent it.
That being said, I think Nadya has two choices: She could continue to do what she is doing despite the public outcry or she could go get a low paying job and supplement what she makes with a lot of welfare assistance. I don't think the second option is even viable because what welfare program is going to pay for a houseful of Nannies. The only thing they would cover in my state would be daycare which would get just as expensive for that many children and would mean someone had to get them there every day. That would require a large vehicle and lots of hands to get them out the door. What about the other 16 hours of the day? Do you think Nadya or anyone would really be able to take care of all those children with no assistance? No other family of HOM has been able to do it. If she had a big family with a lot of built in babysitters like the Duggars it might work but only under those circumstances. Obviuously God knew what he was doing when he created us to only produce one or two babies at a time. I truly think Nadya has chosen the only route open to her and if public opinion hadn't forced her into signing with RO would have gone for a healthier venue. Thats where I'm coming from.
She can work and keep these kids off of TV. Yes, it would mean supplementing with WIC. Oh, well. That's a price I am willing to pay to see her get a job and support these kids in a legitimate manner.
She has SSI/SSDI for the remainder of the Tups first year due to their low birth weight. That will cover the nannies for now. After that, she will need to get her act in gear and gather up all those "friends" she is always talking to on the phone, talking skating, confessing to at the melting pot and receiving jacuzzi's from. She'll have to mend fences with her mother as well. Then she'll have to put all those people to work helping take care of the tups while she's at work. In other words, they'll have to be real friends and not just "buddies" on the receiving end of her infamy. Eventually, she is going to have to manage on her own. She'll need to save up money for a 15 passenger van to get the family to and fro.
Life won't be a cake walk, but it won't be impossible. There are plenty of other HOM's who do it without the benefit of television shows. The difference with them is that the haven't been outed as liars, cheats and scammers! Public opinion didn't force her into signing with RO. Her greed did.
what is the solution?
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The solution is for her to get a job. And don't tell me she can't get a job because she has so many babies to take care of. This is something any rational person would have thought of BEFORE getting pregnant.
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you are unhappy about welfare
you are unhappy about ro videos
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How do YOU know what I'm happy or unhappy about? I have NO problem with welfare. The problem I have is people ABUSING welfare and deliberately setting up a scam to get welfare, donations, and any other freebie. I had a brother who was developmentally disabled and he got SSI. He received $600 per month. He had to pay for his rent, food, utilities, etc. out of that money. Believe me, that is very hard. Let me add this... he ALSO went to work! True, it was a vocational place and he only made 25 cents an hour but he was a contributing member of society. No, I don't have a problem with welfare - just the abusers of that system.
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the children will not be taken from her as there is no grounds for that. having a rotten personality is no reason for anyone to have their kids taken away from them.
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When did I say the kids should be taken away from her?
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the kids are likely to be on tv like plenty of other kids.
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Yes, I believe the kids will be OCCASIONALLY on TV. I don't believe they will be movie or TV stars. Hopefully, by the time they are old enough to reason, they will refuse to have their lives interrupted by cameras.
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Now... Susan, please put on your "listening ears" and stop going down that tunnel vision. You have a tendency to go "off the track" with your posts. Think about what we are saying - objectively.
i rem that .people thought she was from another country and said she needs to go home.whats the difference of people says that than what most of you are saying about her now.......
much as some would like for the kids to be taken away from her, that is not going to happen. by making such a song and dance about any video performances then she will be destined to live on welfare.
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Oh I so love the reasoning on these boards..ha! Wait till a certain person goes off on another of HER tangents. shouldn't take to long..
Susan, you have a good heart. But sometimes hon I would like to take you by the shoulders and shake you a bit. Susan susan susan..
how can anybody hate for months. WE all do it in one form or another..
lets try this....
octobraindead, BROUGHT THESE KIDS INTO THIS WORLD..no one else. SHE went running to radaronline. Suleman literally JUMPED into the media..
She KNEW that having octuplets was a money maker. She knew for a long long time she was having seven babies FOR SURE. She absolutely knew this would be news worthy. But she didn't settle for news worthy..She went for the big BREAK. She was USING those babies..SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE MONEY OFF THE BABIES.RIGHT? OKAY then why did she go to TMZ and ask THEM to make her an offer for the pictures taken IN the hospital? The only thing this did for suleman other than make her YET a mother another time. IS the fact she had a little gold mine. TO HER WAY OF THINKING. This made her repulsive to decent folks..She became a the AMERICAN nightmare, and SHAME. But she keeps on keeping on..And lots of people are trying to put a STOP to her. AND I dare say, now her WHOLE FAMILY. They are ALL scaming the system..Why do you think it's okay for them to borrow money and NOT pay it back. OR by homes and live in them RENT FREE and let those home fall into disclosures? Why would you think it's okay for a MOTHER to drive with kids in her vehicle while talking on a CELL phone? And why do you think it's okay for her to park in handi-capped parking zones illegally? With the suleman's it's a question of the CONTINUAL breaking of laws. And using people. Right down to benefiting from the children. Susan you don't use children JUST for the sake of making money. I know we have child stars and to our delight they are wonderful actors/actresses. why do you think Paul Petersen fights for children relentlessly? To protect them in some way, from the harm done by exposing them to public life. And at the very least at the end of the day, they will have a few dollars to help them survive at a later time. How many emotionally together YOUNG entertainers do you know of? There are some. But I suspect they were the ones that had some structure and constant help in their lives.
I have told you before Susan, I loathe what octo has done. yes loathe. But I do NOT hate her. I hate what she has done. HER ACTIONS. YOU have to learn to keep those to separate and apart..
And as for me guilt trips no longer work..water off a ducks back here..She deserves to pay to the fullest extent that the law permits..AND pay she will..READ the contract..also..it's not JUST her that radaronline had the contract with..IT was ALL fourteen kids. She as their 'GUARDIAN' signed over their rights to that piece of trash media. And I'll bet she didnt flinch once. or bat an eye.
Yeah cross your saintly arms across your ill gotten chest (while sanctamoniously lamenting you are their guardian)you bottom feeder.
"I truly think Nadya has chosen the only route open to her and if public opinion hadn't forced her into signing with RO would have gone for a healthier venue. Thats where I'm coming from."
I agree. Nadya has said as much. This is the only viable option for her to manage to look after her family.
Rather than hate her come up with another solution. I quite liked the idea of military that someone broached. any other suggestions?
i am sorry if i attributed some other people's comments to you. what i wrote, i have seen written here. it is sometimes hard to keep it straight in my mind who said what
She KNEW that having octuplets was a money maker. She knew for a long long time she was having seven babies FOR SURE. She absolutely knew this would be news worthy. But she didn't settle for news worthy..She went for the big BREAK. She was USING those babies..SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE MONEY OFF THE BABIES.RIGHT?
this is where we disagree. I do not think she went into this thinking of making money from it. I believe to some extent that she had an obsession to have a lot of kids, but not all at once.
I think that now she is in this situation she is trying to make the best of it.
Thank God SOMEONE is looking out for those kids. 'Cause it DAMN sure ain't their mom.
thank you rod and raul.........
I'm so happy to see this finally happen.
It's just amazing when the whole world has to sit and watch this mentally ill, money grubbing woman pimp out these babies for months on end, knowing exactly what she is doing, and she is able to get away with it. What's really scary is what is going on when the cameras aren't there. Sad to say, but she's on her best behavior when the cameras are on. Her best behavior includes mishandling, poking, waterboarding, cheek poking and head dangling. I can't imagine what she does afterwards. Maybe it's better that she's away disfiguring her face. Better her than them.
18. why would newborns need a studio teacher while filming
Author Profile Page https://me.yahoo.com/a/OT1zc4lumPY3J6H6VtIB06hb1PJo2TgI#fca65 | June 16, 2009 3:02 PM | Reply
18. why would newborns need a studio teacher while filming
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Because a studio teacher is more than just a teacher. They are charged with the welfare of the child on the set to make sure what is being done is developmentally appropriate. You can go to Paul Petersen's site micon.org and read about the role of the studio teacher.
I am curious to know if Angelina and Brad, Jennifer Lopez and Mark A., etc. had work permits or a studio teacher present to photograph their infants. Somehow I doubt it.
raul took pix of babies going to park wonder how that will turn out.
Lise | June 16, 2009 3:25 PM | Reply
I am curious to know if Angelina and Brad, Jennifer Lopez and Mark A., etc. had work permits or a studio teacher present to photograph their infants. Somehow I doubt it.
You mentioned REAL celebrities in your comparison. Those people have REAL PROFESSIONALS to handle their business.
Nadya is a BOOTLEG "celebrity" who ain't got a clue as to how to play with the big boys. She is too caught up in getting paid to be patient and take the TIME to arrange things on the up and up.
Raul is going to be just fine.... HE didn't have a contract to film the babies and pay Nada. No money crossed hands. As the State says about the RadarOnline contract, (paraphrased) "This is a mini-movie".
ADMIN NOTE: OCTORAZZI is a LEGITIMATE NEWS AGENT with a real PRESS PASS from the L.A. County Sheriff. Octorazzi pays NO ONE for information and has NO CONTRACT WITH ANYONE FOR EXCLUSIVITY. Octorazzi Gets Published in the San Gabriel Valley Newspaper Group which is a legit news source. Octorazzi reports NEWS and does not MAKE news.
"You mentioned REAL celebrities in your comparison. Those people have REAL PROFESSIONALS to handle their business."
Yeah, I guess you're right. They have agents and special attorneys so they probably had it all in line.
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Did you guys see the amount crossed out? Do you think that first amount was $1m. I think, and not counting the second line (because I can't figure out why an amount would be broken up) that it was $100,000.00.
there were those lovely pictures of the twins when they were first born and it had all the older kids holding them. they received money for those pictures. i bet it took more than 1 hour to take the pictures and then brangelina gave the money away. what about their kids rights to access money that they have earned?
thank you grandmab you are right i forgot no contract involved with raul.
thank you grandmab you are right i forgot no contract involved with raul.
i have read my last comment. i am well and truely disappointed at what some people admit here.
it isn't about the kids. it is something else at work that has people writing such horrible things.
i don't condone everything that nadya has done but i wonder what is to be gained from such hostility to anything and everything she does. some of the writings are truely horrific. can someone really carry that much emotion for so many months?
much as some would like for the kids to be taken away from her, that is not going to happen. by making such a song and dance about any video performances then she will be destined to live on welfare.
I really cannot fathom why Nadya is being punished for something other people do but do with impunity.
gook luck sandy
also millie and lise, I understand why you want to be the devils advocate. without it the hate will just spiral.
what is going on in america that people can carry hate for so long?
what is going on in america that people can carry hate for so long?
In America?
Are you serious?
Why don't you go ask Al Qaeda.
Or Israel and Afganistan.
Or Korea.
Or ***ANY*** other country, for that matter.
sorry to see you go. i left once but returned .i missed octorazzi's pix and post. but noticed as you did all the negative things said so decided to stay and say my part.i feel there is hope in everyone.
do they hate their own?
oh that's right at the beginning people thought she wasn't american. remember that? telling her to go home!
there are other people working in the house looking after the babies when ro is not there. even though they have signed confidentiality agreements not to speak to the media i do not think that stops them from reporting if they think something is not right. really, think about it. do you honestly believe that the nannies would let anything horrible happen to the kids?
Author Profile Page susan replied to comment from BizzyBee | June 16, 2009 6:31 PM | Reply
do they hate their own?
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Do you watch the news?
Who does Al Queda spend most of it's time attacking? Who does North Korea throw in to prison for speaking out against the government? Yeesh!
"i don't condone everything that nadya has done but i wonder what is to be gained from such hostility to anything and everything she does. some of the writings are truely horrific. can someone really carry that much emotion for so many months?"
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Susan, for weeks now (that I've been here) you have repeatedly said the same thing, "... how can you hate for so many months?"
For the same "months" people have been trying to tell you what it was that bothered them. For whatever reason, you have either ignored their comments or dismissed them as not being as important as your feelings. Why is it you can't comprehend what is going on here?
You have a person who has literally scammed the system for years now. But since she has gone public we can see what she has done, and are appalled at it. If there were others who were doing the same thing and came out publicly there would still be the same backlash.
What can be gained is people speaking out and changing what's wrong with our society. This is how laws are changed. This is how attitudes are changed. It is NOT okay to abuse the system that taxpayers work hard to support. It is NOT okay to think you are above the law.
IT IS NOT OKAY TO "USE" CHILDREN AS CHATTEL.
susan replied to comment from BizzyBee | June 16, 2009 6:33 PM | Reply
oh that's right at the beginning people thought she wasn't american. remember that? telling her to go home!
Actually, no I don't. And anybody like that is to be ignored, anyway.
But thanks for trying to boil down what I have to say to THAT.
Okay, Susan, I just might have to skip over your postings from here on out. If you REALLY interpret the things I say that way.
I won't get in to a ridiculous and bogus debate just because we don't see eye to eye.
what is the solution?
you are unhappy about welfare
you are unhappy about ro videos
the children will not be taken from her as there is no grounds for that. having a rotten personality is no reason for anyone to have their kids taken away from them.
the kids are likely to be on tv like plenty of other kids. no body wants any child to turn out dysfunctional because of exposure to this medium. the well highlighted cases are certainly reason to be cautious. however not every child that acts or appears on tv is destined to become dysfunctional. for the list of sorry cases there are much more that live happy productive lives. a few to mind: natalie portman, jodie foster, brooke shields, paul petersen. not everyone stays in the spotlight. lucille ball's kids both appeared in her tv shows and they are never in the spotlight for any reason. they conduct their business interests without fanfare. each day kids are in ads and movies and sitcoms and and and. and really how many kids have gone off the rails? there were 5 partridge family kids but only bonaduce has made a name for himself as being ruined. was that really because of the experience of tv?
Susan- what is so hard about the concept of J-O-B?
If she were doing something to even PARTIALLY support them, I do believe there would be less antipathy towards her. Not completely gone, mind you, but less. But this is someone who seems to have an inordinate disdain for the working mentality.
As for comparisons to people like Jodie Foster ( need I remind you about the problems she's had with stalkers???) let's just for a minute remember that there is a huge difference between playing a part on screen and having your potty training and other private moments broadcast for all the world to see.
"Hello Jim Bob. Glad to see you've gotten over that nose-picking problem of yours."
Susan, in all sincerity, I think Nadya's children would benefit 1000% more by going in to a witness protection program where no STRANGERS would be even tempted to watch them ever again, They aren't actors, it's their LIVES people want to know about and quite frankly the only thing these children NEED is to not be exposed to that ANY MORE because they are already at risk with all the ridicule Nadya has brought upon herself with her actions.
Don't you in your heart of hearts know it would be MUCH healthier for them to live their lives without any strangers looking at them anymore for ANY reason?
Robin: I certainly can't speak for Susan but I agree that anonymity would be the best answer for this family. However, I can see no way for that to work unless the babies were all split up and I really don't think that would be wise. I believe there is a bond there that would always be there and if they grew up and found that they had been split off from their siblings they would always resent it.
That being said, I think Nadya has two choices: She could continue to do what she is doing despite the public outcry or she could go get a low paying job and supplement what she makes with a lot of welfare assistance. I don't think the second option is even viable because what welfare program is going to pay for a houseful of Nannies. The only thing they would cover in my state would be daycare which would get just as expensive for that many children and would mean someone had to get them there every day. That would require a large vehicle and lots of hands to get them out the door. What about the other 16 hours of the day? Do you think Nadya or anyone would really be able to take care of all those children with no assistance? No other family of HOM has been able to do it. If she had a big family with a lot of built in babysitters like the Duggars it might work but only under those circumstances. Obviuously God knew what he was doing when he created us to only produce one or two babies at a time. I truly think Nadya has chosen the only route open to her and if public opinion hadn't forced her into signing with RO would have gone for a healthier venue. Thats where I'm coming from.
She can work and keep these kids off of TV. Yes, it would mean supplementing with WIC. Oh, well. That's a price I am willing to pay to see her get a job and support these kids in a legitimate manner.
She has SSI/SSDI for the remainder of the Tups first year due to their low birth weight. That will cover the nannies for now. After that, she will need to get her act in gear and gather up all those "friends" she is always talking to on the phone, talking skating, confessing to at the melting pot and receiving jacuzzi's from. She'll have to mend fences with her mother as well. Then she'll have to put all those people to work helping take care of the tups while she's at work. In other words, they'll have to be real friends and not just "buddies" on the receiving end of her infamy. Eventually, she is going to have to manage on her own. She'll need to save up money for a 15 passenger van to get the family to and fro.
Life won't be a cake walk, but it won't be impossible. There are plenty of other HOM's who do it without the benefit of television shows. The difference with them is that the haven't been outed as liars, cheats and scammers! Public opinion didn't force her into signing with RO. Her greed did.
what is the solution?
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The solution is for her to get a job. And don't tell me she can't get a job because she has so many babies to take care of. This is something any rational person would have thought of BEFORE getting pregnant.
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you are unhappy about welfare
you are unhappy about ro videos
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How do YOU know what I'm happy or unhappy about? I have NO problem with welfare. The problem I have is people ABUSING welfare and deliberately setting up a scam to get welfare, donations, and any other freebie. I had a brother who was developmentally disabled and he got SSI. He received $600 per month. He had to pay for his rent, food, utilities, etc. out of that money. Believe me, that is very hard. Let me add this... he ALSO went to work! True, it was a vocational place and he only made 25 cents an hour but he was a contributing member of society. No, I don't have a problem with welfare - just the abusers of that system.
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the children will not be taken from her as there is no grounds for that. having a rotten personality is no reason for anyone to have their kids taken away from them.
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When did I say the kids should be taken away from her?
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the kids are likely to be on tv like plenty of other kids.
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Yes, I believe the kids will be OCCASIONALLY on TV. I don't believe they will be movie or TV stars. Hopefully, by the time they are old enough to reason, they will refuse to have their lives interrupted by cameras.
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Now... Susan, please put on your "listening ears" and stop going down that tunnel vision. You have a tendency to go "off the track" with your posts. Think about what we are saying - objectively.
i rem that .people thought she was from another country and said she needs to go home.whats the difference of people says that than what most of you are saying about her now.......
much as some would like for the kids to be taken away from her, that is not going to happen. by making such a song and dance about any video performances then she will be destined to live on welfare.
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Oh I so love the reasoning on these boards..ha! Wait till a certain person goes off on another of HER tangents. shouldn't take to long..
Susan, you have a good heart. But sometimes hon I would like to take you by the shoulders and shake you a bit. Susan susan susan..
how can anybody hate for months. WE all do it in one form or another..
lets try this....
octobraindead, BROUGHT THESE KIDS INTO THIS WORLD..no one else. SHE went running to radaronline. Suleman literally JUMPED into the media..
She KNEW that having octuplets was a money maker. She knew for a long long time she was having seven babies FOR SURE. She absolutely knew this would be news worthy. But she didn't settle for news worthy..She went for the big BREAK. She was USING those babies..SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE MONEY OFF THE BABIES.RIGHT? OKAY then why did she go to TMZ and ask THEM to make her an offer for the pictures taken IN the hospital? The only thing this did for suleman other than make her YET a mother another time. IS the fact she had a little gold mine. TO HER WAY OF THINKING. This made her repulsive to decent folks..She became a the AMERICAN nightmare, and SHAME. But she keeps on keeping on..And lots of people are trying to put a STOP to her. AND I dare say, now her WHOLE FAMILY. They are ALL scaming the system..Why do you think it's okay for them to borrow money and NOT pay it back. OR by homes and live in them RENT FREE and let those home fall into disclosures? Why would you think it's okay for a MOTHER to drive with kids in her vehicle while talking on a CELL phone? And why do you think it's okay for her to park in handi-capped parking zones illegally? With the suleman's it's a question of the CONTINUAL breaking of laws. And using people. Right down to benefiting from the children. Susan you don't use children JUST for the sake of making money. I know we have child stars and to our delight they are wonderful actors/actresses. why do you think Paul Petersen fights for children relentlessly? To protect them in some way, from the harm done by exposing them to public life. And at the very least at the end of the day, they will have a few dollars to help them survive at a later time. How many emotionally together YOUNG entertainers do you know of? There are some. But I suspect they were the ones that had some structure and constant help in their lives.
I have told you before Susan, I loathe what octo has done. yes loathe. But I do NOT hate her. I hate what she has done. HER ACTIONS. YOU have to learn to keep those to separate and apart..
And as for me guilt trips no longer work..water off a ducks back here..She deserves to pay to the fullest extent that the law permits..AND pay she will..READ the contract..also..it's not JUST her that radaronline had the contract with..IT was ALL fourteen kids. She as their 'GUARDIAN' signed over their rights to that piece of trash media. And I'll bet she didnt flinch once. or bat an eye.
Yeah cross your saintly arms across your ill gotten chest (while sanctamoniously lamenting you are their guardian)you bottom feeder.
"I truly think Nadya has chosen the only route open to her and if public opinion hadn't forced her into signing with RO would have gone for a healthier venue. Thats where I'm coming from."
I agree. Nadya has said as much. This is the only viable option for her to manage to look after her family.
Rather than hate her come up with another solution. I quite liked the idea of military that someone broached. any other suggestions?
i am sorry if i attributed some other people's comments to you. what i wrote, i have seen written here. it is sometimes hard to keep it straight in my mind who said what
She KNEW that having octuplets was a money maker. She knew for a long long time she was having seven babies FOR SURE. She absolutely knew this would be news worthy. But she didn't settle for news worthy..She went for the big BREAK. She was USING those babies..SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE MONEY OFF THE BABIES.RIGHT?
this is where we disagree. I do not think she went into this thinking of making money from it. I believe to some extent that she had an obsession to have a lot of kids, but not all at once.
I think that now she is in this situation she is trying to make the best of it.