NADYA SULEMAN CREATES TOO MANY QUESTIONS ANSWERS NONE; AND JEFF CZECH SEEMS TO BE AWOL; GOT AN APB OUT ON JEFF TO SEE IF HE CAN RESPOND TO MY QUESTIONS and CLEAR THE AIR HERE

Thanks OCTORAZZI !1!ONE!!11!!ELEVEN!

I've been wondering why no reporters (until now, props to you) bothered to check her high school year books to prove if her claims as a cheerleader and being a popular student were true even after a former mate debunked it. Thanks for verifying!

I, too, find it a bit odd that she has but a single photo during her 4 years in high school. But what do I know? I graduated from a small private school in Hawaii where yearbook photos were mandatory.

ADMIN NOTE: With someone looking over Octorazzi's shoulder and limited time (due to another assignment) Octorazzi DID glance over the entire FOUR books. There seems to be NO OTHER PHOTOS of NATALIE DOUD or anyone else with SULEMAN last name beside Angles SULEMAN in any other photos of CLUBs, GROUPs or ANYTHING else in the entire FOUR BOOKS... Octorazzi might be wrong but it looked that way to Octorazzi when he looked at the books. Only one single ENTRY in the entire FOUR books...the Junior year (1992) official photo... Hmmmmmmm

I've also wondered why there is nothing that has surfaced about the four years in college it takes to earn a degree. Nothing, not a photograph, not a classmate, not a transcript of her grades.

NADA

Could she have done this by 'distant learning' (online, correspondence courses)? I'm not familiar with CalState Fullerton and what they do and don't offer.

p.s. thanks for confirming she was never a cheerleader. This is not of any relevance other than a further illustration of her lies.

The difference between pathological and compulsive lying is clear. She doesn't even realize she is doing it. How long before this has a negative impact on the children?

"I gave him his meds" (when she didn't)
"I took him for a checkup" (when she didn't)
"He didn't get that black eye from his brother" (oops...haven't we already heard that one?)

Hey Oh, Octorazzi.

I never took my high school year book photos. When my mom found out she made me take it my senior year and got all mad because I wasn't in the book for the other years. So I'm not sure lack of a picture means much.

I've been curious as well re: the supposive psychology degree---which, I have already figured is another lie. Interesting about the high school photos. For someone who likes their picture taken all the time, where was she? Hmmmm...either not in school on picture day and make-up picture day for the years up to her junior year, in another school, or, for senior year, she was not in school at all. Did she even graduate from high school? I remember reading something about a former classmate who stated that Pigslut was not a cheerleader, and she did not any friends. For anyone saying, "Give her a break, quit picking on her." Hey, she wanted to be in the public eye, so be it....but she should have known that once you are caught in one lie, everything you say IS going to be picked apart. Here's some food for thought.....let's say you go and buy a watermelon from someone selling fresh fruit on the street. He says he's charging more for the fruit because it is the best and sweetest on earth. You believe him, buy it and take it home. You cut it open and it's completely rotten and infested with bugs. Would you ever buy anything more from him again without cutting it open first in front of him?

Octorazzi I did post the information about suleman NOT being a 'CHEERLEADER' a few weeks ago..Well maybe within the past month. Why the interest now? you go something up your sleevie? other than your armie?

Remember is was an interview done with a 'REAL CHEERLEADER' from suleman's school?
Wonder why no pictures of her in the yearbook for 3 or 4 years? Was she absent?
The young lady that was interviewed got in trouble when Suleman was asking her for the answers to questions on an exam. She also got a fail mark on that exam. She apparently yelled at suleman to 'LEAVE HER ALONE.'

Hey Octorazzi.....do u know whatever happened to the two guys claiming some of the children might be theirs? (They were going to supposively have DNA tests done...one was the guy on Good Morning America, and the other was the limo driver) Inquiring minds want to know...say, and what happened with suing the strip club owner that stated Pigslut was a stripper? Just curious. Thank u!!

Good moring all.

I found NADYA's PHOTO that has circulated throughout, the black and while one, and it is FROM HER JUNIOR YEAR.

No OTHER photos of NADYA show up in the other YEARBOOKS... NONE.. ZILCH.. SIP.. ZERO... NADA (no pun intended but funny, hey)...

It seems either this kid missed FRESHMAN, SOPHOMORE and SENIOR year pictures or.... I WILL NOT SPECULATE RIGHT NOW...

But I did find ANGELA SULEMAN'S PICS on three of those books. YES!!!

She was the FRENCH TEACHER at the SAME SCHOOL at the SAME TIME Nadya was there, for at least HERE JUNIOR YEAR.

And, LOOKED AT ALL THE CHEERLEADER PICS from those 4 YEARS, and NOTHING, ZILCH, ZIP, ZERO, NADA!!!!

Hey, 'Razzi that IS very interesting.

Would you also please look in to seeing if her alledged lawsuits over the alleged lies about her have been settled, are pending, or were totally bogus from the moment she talked about them?
The ones Nadya claimed she was going to bring against others.

As for the lack of pictures in the other years she would have logically been at that school- was her name listed where it should have been just with no picture?
That's how it was done all the years I went to Jr. & Sr. highschool. It would have your name listed right where it ought to be, but there would be no picture. They still acknowledged your presence, but simply had no yearbook photo.

OctoRazzi- was that the case in this instance when you looked at the yearbooks?

Was she even listed, just no picture? Or no picture, AND no mention of her at all?

PLEASE CLARIFY!!!

Hi Cheyenne, NO WORRIES about the water under the bridge around here. Thanks so much for your kindness all the same.

Yesterday I was getting so disgusted by the insistence of one certain poster that vowed to continue to dredge up something that I had already clarified and apologized for A WEEK AGO. The day it happened.
It was starting to feel like I was in a room with a rancid fart when said poster kept going on about how OctoRazzi REALLY meant his admonishment to ME.
That admonishment he had left has been there since the DAY of the incident, and he had obviously been reading the posts chronologically and knew darned well who he was addressing.

I don't suffer uncalled for belligerence and absolute idiocy aimed directly at me lightly.

From here on out, I'm ignoring posts from that poster.

Anyway, I hope we get more in depth info soon.

Well, well, well. All that woman has to do it open those "Donald Duck" lips of hers, and we already know it is a "LIE"-Again. Ya, she better continue to live in that "Baby Bubble" of hers! God! I feel for them kids! Can you imagine having a mother that tells lies all the time? When they say the apple doesn't fall from the tree, guess America has 14 more coming up turning out just like her! And my guess, 14 more without a job, claiming back injury! Hope they learn what a "Loser" their mother is and try to do better. I wish all those kids the best! Especially the first 6!
Not only nanny's she should hire, maybe someone to teach her just the basic in life. How to be responsible, hold down a job, how to hold and feed a baby, how to tell the "truth" from a "lie!" What a waste of oxygen this woman is! And to think people who actually mean something in life die at such an early age!
Have A Good Day-All!

In all of the High School yearbooks I have seen, if someone misses picture day or chooses not to take the photo, they still list the name at the end of the class or they put in a generic silhouette/MIA with his or her name where the photo should be.
Obviously, she was not in that school at the time.
Octorazzi, did you notice how they listed absent students? If her name was not there, neither was she. Perhaps, she was institutionalized for criminal or abnormal mental behaviour.
OR, in true Nada fashion, she thought with angela's connections to the school, she could get a diploma without working for it. Just like now, she obtains everything through fraud.
But, I have a feeling she probably was so creepy and a pathological liar in school that she was one of those weirdo kids that no one liked, so she fantasized about being popular.

Just a thought- but maybe she didn't go to Nogales high school those years. I know kids of HS teachers who went to different schools specifically because they didn't want to be in the same school as their parents...

Good Morning (It's afternoon here) BizzyBee!! I finally got back on and responded (wrote another book on WHAT I do with my life on the previous post...in re: to what someone posted about the "sympathy" thing) Have to run and go with my teenaged son to get some pants for his FIRST job that he starts on Monday!!! He's been filling out applications since last year....finally got one!!! Then it's off to buy something for my one flower bed that is riddled with slugs. (Funny thing is my other beds don't have that problem) Oh....hope you are sitting for this one. So...my neighbors tell me my son got a tattoo, but he told them NOT to tell me....yeah right, like that is not going to happen. I told him yesterday..."OK, let's see it...I know you have a tattoo". (I prepared myself for the worst prior to confronting him about it--mind you, I was appalled when my neighbors told me about this--they did not tell me what the tattoo was) He has a tattoo on his upper arm that says.....LOVE MOM ----while I am not thrilled that he did this to his body...It's kind of hard to be upset that he would put me on his arm. Anyway....hope everyone has a nice weekend!!!

Hello JZ......, I enjoy your posts.....It is not possible , for myself........to believe 'carte blanche'....anything, that Natalie ,' multiple last names' states. Based upon her behavior, & mistruths, as far as I am concerned..all that she verbalizes, & all her actions.are suspect. The proof is in the pudding.....her pudding smells rancid..her past, noteably thready & scarce. I believe that she was a loner. She still is........she acts alone.......she is not a sharing or giving person. Unless one cannot contribute to her wants & needs.....she has no use for any person. Money & attention........that is the essence of Octo-pimp.

Good Morning BizzyBee

Yes it's been a trip! It really is the BEST way BizzyBee. Getting "INTO" it with any of them is just a waste of time and energy..

Upward and onward..So Jeffie is M.I.A. is he? Maybe he's gone into the witness protection program..:) He has joined octoweed in ALL her fabrications. Boy one of these days he WILL pay..His next job will be at a convenience store..Oh well, he'll look tall compared to his co-workers. That's something..
I am totally baffled if he didn't advise duck mug to NOT sign the contract with radaronline. Why would they go ahead with filming those babies..JEFFIE is NOW saying he is an entertainment lawyer..okay, then he must know the laws are in place, and those laws have to be adhered to. He is a lawyer, so why would the LAWS for filming children NOT have been looked into more carefully? NONE of this makes any sense..AND why did suleman NOT get fined the contract is WITH HER. AND in her HOME. She agreed to the terms and conditions of that contract. She is ultimately responsible for the safety of those babies as their 'LEGAL GUARDIAN.' So how can they put the whole blame on radaronline?

Tickets from Orange County Online Courts system

5/6/03
Driving without a license Case # FL693036
Dismissed with correction

7/26/07
Unsafe Speed for Prevailing Conditions
Case # FL798279
Bail Forfeiture

6/02/09
Driving while using a wireless telephone
Case # LH423183
Pending

>>>>As previously reported as WORLD WIDE BREAKING NEWS only here, the Radaronline contract is supposed to be up TODAY. Last Friday, while shopping @ Toys R Us with NADYA and her three older children, SHE TOLD ME that her contract would be up in a week, then I could divulge everything she had confided in me but that she did not want me to reveal YET! (Same thing with things she said TWO WEEKS ago at the La Habra Children's Museum)

Radaronline' Chris Myers in the mean time denied her contract was up and said "she gets confused a lot."

Well, Octorazzi has found out by digging DEEP FOR YOU, that US WEEKLY has done an INDEPTH INTERVIEW this WEEK, during the span of TWO DAYS, inside NADYA'S HOME.<<<<

Wait a minute! I thought the contract with radaronline specifically states she can't do interviews with anyone else while under contract with them????

Another fact of life is 'when one is exploring' and looking for validation in life. You don't have yourself implanted for the sake of having kids to 'FULLFILL' your pathetic 'needs.' Everyone one of those children came into this world with a JOB. To make their mother feel 'WHOLE.' Did it work? Does octo feel whole and complete now? Has she done any changing for the sake of those children? Has she taken responsibility for their welfare? Is she going too work and make an honest living without flaunting her children? Will they pay the price for being the children of a female who MUST have fame?

NO one can find themselves looking outward. YOU can NOT fill your VOID outside of yourself. How stupid and materialistic..I have never heard of anything so EGO driven. "I was in my years of exploration/exploring." If during those years it consisted of 'STRIPPING' OR ENTERING A SILLY LINGERIE CONTEST, THEN that tells ME what your needs are. Nothing more and nothing LESS than being in the limelight and the pathetic NEED for attention..doesn't matter what kind of attention either.
For me this is when it all started..She went to great lengths to defraud the government. And to use excuses to warrant FREE money. HER history and her walk in life has been one of 'grabbing.' She 'takes' because she believes herself 'ENTITLED.' She couldn't/wouldn't work. Money had to come from somewhere..So look around and shop for 'free money.' And boy did she get that one right.
Where did she get that sick twisted thinking? Look at how her parents respond to responsibility? And her father is the biggest abuser of them all. HE allows his wife to take all of the brunt of bad credit, and financial irresponsibility. HE has it down PAT. Another one made of teflon..What an expample for those children. A life of illusions.. A life of indescretions, and deceiving, and escaping any and all accountability. For them it's the challenge of screwing the tax payers via government programs and loop holes. Nothing in their LIVES SHOW ANY HONOR OR INTEGRITY. NOTHING! THERE MUST BE A LEGAL NAME FOR THAT. They find any window of opportunity to GRAB money anyway they can. whether that's living rent free for a period of time. Owing money and not paying back a cent..Angela had over a million dollars in credit. She had started claiming bankruptcy. They showed a list of her creditors, which include the IRS and Kaiser hospital.. She has NO integrity, neither had El Doud. NONE. And their daughter learned well from her parents..She had done'em proud.

Regarding the citations for RO, the $3000 fine is only for ONE DAY and TWO CHILDREN.

Now, follow me here, how many days did RO film the kids? And how many kids were in each film?
These fines are multiplied by each kid that is in the film for each day of filming. This could amount up to a LOT of money!

Remember the Mother's Day film? All fourteen kids. That could be over $12,000 just for that one day! (Not to mention the fines for permits, etc. which are separate).

Now, if Nada had to pay the fines, (if for only 30 days, let's say): 30 days x min. of 3 kids @ approx. $4000/day = $120,000. That's a good chunk of dough.

I can't wait to see if RO lays the permits, etc. on Nada's doorstep. Even if they share the fines, they have been filming for over 3 months and her share of fines *could* be well over $250,000.

Hi GrandmaB

Well lets wait and see if 'ANYTHING' sticks to the 'TEFLON FAMILY.' She is always smarter than ANY law maker, She has outsmarted everyone.

But waaaaaaaait a minute here..IF 'WE' can see it????? Then what the hell is holding these LEGAL BEAGLES back? Why are they not making a move on this scammer? Why don't they see that she is screwing them royally? Isn't she spitting in their eye telling them she is smarter? And...Catch me 'IF' you can? It looks like she defies the system. She must know better than they do that she is ONE up all the time. So where does all of this end? And HOW?
I smell a big fat rat.

ROL has been fined for Child Labour violations.........Jeffie Czech-book has been MIA for too long.No response. Not normal behaviour for a lawyer, who conducts his business appropriately , within the Legal system......But little Jeffrie is representing a client, directly responsible for illicit activity............He advises her, as a {?} legal representative......for financial recompense . He is on a self-protective fishing trip..........Seeking a way to worm himself & Octo-tentacles , out of this...........very fishy situation.

Hi GrandmaB, BizzyBee, Sally, Erin, Balboud, Lise, SusaninWhittier, grlz33

GrandmaB wtg that was good figurin..I hope it's a consevative estimate also..

BizzyBee you keep forgettting to post with a warning...>>> A**holes huh? Great title for them..Works like a hot damn for me.

I may be mistaken, but in a past interview, didn't Nada say that she was going to sue US Weekly for some story they put out about her?

GrandmaB replied to comment from _Cheyenne_ | June 19, 2009 12:04 PM | Reply

Howdy everyone - lunch break here! :-)

Man, I could use one of those right about now. Just got my girlies hooked up with their lunch, but PB & J just doens't appeal to me at the moment.
But don't feel like cooking, already cleaned up from breakfast. I tell you I spend half my day cleaning up from our meals :)

I wonder where this story will be one year from now. ???

https://me.yahoo.com/ca_grlz#33ead replied to comment from jz | June 19, 2009 12:17 PM | Reply

There was another magazine she screamed about suing, too. The one that put the story about "Mother from Hell" on the front cover. I can't be sure, but I thought it was US weekly. She claimed it was taken "out of context."

I don't think I ever heard about that one. I'll have to check it out.

The headline, though...That's pretty frickin' funny, though, I must say.

Buy the current issue of InTouch Weekly at Universal News HERE!

InTouch Weekly brings the OctoMom back to the cover of the celebrity weekly category.

The mag asks if she’s a loving mother or…mom from hell?

The reader is promised details of inside her house, the truth about her meltdowns and why even she reveals “People think I’m crazy.”

Did I save the best cover for last or the worst for last?

This by far is the category killer this week. Yes, it’s the best cover of the week.

This is what I found, the headline simply POSED A QUESTION. Didn't make a STATEMENT.

Ought to be interesting, but as a layman doesn't seem like she has a case.

As I'm working on my leftovers for lunch here, I came across this article.

Something I noticed (or DIDN'T notice, as it were) is that in any of the stories I've seen and shared here today, have any of the media outlets edited to add that there is a lawsuit pending, NOR have the stories been removed from the websites, which to me would imply (again, just a layman here) that there IS no lawsuit, because the stories have SOLID SOURCES....
No retraction = no lawsuit = stories TRUE ergo Nadya has NO case and is LYING???

Nadya Suleman Is Exploiting Her Kids, Paparazzi Agree
Paps say OctoMom uses kids as props for the cameras

By Elena Gorgan, Life & Style Editor

7th of May 2009, 14:51 GMT

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Nadya Suleman almost drops one of her infants as she tries to put on a show for the cameras, paparazzi say
Enlarge picture
Whether Nadya Suleman is a good mother or not is a topic that has often been brought up for discussion, with one camp more determined than the other to prove its point. The paparazzi, for all they care, seem to have made up their mind about OctoMom’s motherly skills: she’s only using the children to get attention onto herself, and her recent outing to the park stands as clear proof of that, BARM/Fame Pictures says (story here).

According to the paps, Suleman acts completely differently when the cameras are rolling as compared to when they’re not. The 33-year-old mother of 14 is, as fans must know, currently shooting for a reality show, which means that there’s a camera crew with her almost non-stop. However, when Suleman knows that she’s not being filmed, she quickly passes the babies along to the nannies and sees to her own business, just like she wouldn’t have a care in the world, the reports says, coming to confirm what Gloria Allred was also saying a while back.

OCTORAZZI - Check this out. She graduated from La Puente???

... studied to be a psychiatric technician after graduating from a high school in La Puente in 1993.

She received a bachelor's degree in child and adolescent development from California State University, Fullerton, in 2006 and was studying there for a master's degree in counseling when she became pregnant with the octuplets.

(Huffington Report – Feb. 5, 2009)

There's a LOT of info on her at:

Answers dot com

Enter her name in the search box.

Of note to Grandma B's post- I THINK Nogales high is IN La Puente. Could just be a generality in the reporting, not quite specific.

there are several schools in hacienda la puente district. nogales,la puente,los altos,wilson,workman,and l.p. alterative. there is also roland district not sure what schools are there. maybe she moved around

Nogales High School
401 Nogales St
La Puente, CA 91744-6199

The sulemonster family might have lived in La Puente at some time.

{snip}from today's post:

As previously reported as WORLD WIDE BREAKING NEWS only here, the Radaronline contract is supposed to be up TODAY. Last Friday, while shopping @ Toys R Us with NADYA and her three older children, SHE TOLD ME that her contract would be up in a week, then I could divulge everything she had confided in me but that she did not want me to reveal YET! (Same thing with things she said TWO WEEKS ago at the La Habra Children's Museum)

So, CLEARLY, NADYA has NOT been honoring her contract if she has been divulging info to OctoRazzi, and DEPENDING on him to keep her confidence until her contract expired.

Since he has honor and respect for himself and his profession, he has held the information in confidence. BUT this does not change the fact that she has been sharing info she LEGALLY AGREED to ONLY share with Radar Online.

What a shock. She's a cheat and a liar. Say it ain't so!

And ALSO, if her contract with Radar is only just up TODAY, she was CLEARLY in VIOLATION OF HER CONTRACT when those OTHER two dudes showed up.

Unless, THEY work for Radar or an affiliate.

Can't WAIT to see if she gets countersued by Radar for breach of contract.

In fact, I'm gonna email Radar online this entry, not to rat on Raul, he can't get in trouble, but NADYA is the one with the LEGAL obligation to only deal with Radar.

Be back soon. Got some email to send. Just IN CASE they don't read OctoRazzi.

ADMIN NOTE: You think Radaronline does not read Octorazzi? Earth to buzzybee... hello?>.?> That's is EXACTLY HOW THEY GET THEIR NEWS AND IDEAS OF WHAT TO DO NEXT> Thanks for watching out for the ROL interest... (LOL)

Here's what I put in the "Tips Box"

This is taken from the OctoRazzi blog. They had copies of her contract with Radar Online posted, and if this reporter is truthful, then didn't she violate the terms of her contract with you folks?
This reporter says he has things to share that she made him promise not to tell about until AFTER her contract with Radar was up. Wouldn't that be a breach?

**Today's post by OctoRazzi followed my blurb up top**

I wonder if they are already on to this, or maybe it isn't a breach. Don't know. But I think it warranted an email.

ADMIN NOTE: Octorazzi MENTIONED what he did because as long as OCTORAZZI did not divulge ANYTHING Suleman spoke of, there is NO BREACH OF CONTRACT. People can have conversations in private that stay private. Period. There is nothing that can keep anyone from speaking with anyone else and as long as nothing of what was said in the conversations is made public, it's like it never happened. So, don't get too excited at putting another nail of Suleman's coffin prematurely.

NOTE TO OCTORAZZIL:

I was not trying to imply that your integrity is questionable, it's just that I wasn't there when you were talking to Nadya and passing along third hand information should be done so with a grain of dubiousness.

at this link a lawyer questions allred's case

http://familylaw dot typepad dot com/family_law_news/2009/05/octomom-nadya-suleman-sued-by-celeb-lawyer-gloria-allred-for-exploiting-her-babies.html

>>>>>>>And ALSO, if her contract with Radar is only just up TODAY, she was CLEARLY in VIOLATION OF HER CONTRACT when those OTHER two dudes showed up.

Unless, THEY work for Radar or an affiliate.

Can't WAIT to see if she gets countersued by Radar for breach of contract.<<<<<<<

I brought that up about 4 hours ago hoping for an answer from the razzi-- so far NADA.

this ticket information below tells me there is a mug shot out there of Nadya from her arrest. If she forfeited bail, then she was bailed out, if she was bailed out, there is a mug shot photo.

Hey Octorazzi, they get all the stars mugshots, can we get Nadyas.

forgot to post the ticket info for my prior comment

7/26/07
Unsafe Speed for Prevailing Conditions
Case # FL798279
Bail Forfeiture

Waiting for it, BizzyBee! Funny that the razzi didn't mention a breach by her talking with him.

Also waiting for the 'confidences' she shared with the 'razzi ;)

People stop spewing ignorant hate for the sake of humanity.

Stop being spiteful because you never graduated from highschool, or college, and will never be allowed anywhere near a MA program.

ding dong the witch is back....

Hello, folks!

This is my first time here. I've been following your comments for quite awhile now. Like many websites concerning this controversial issue, I've observed a great deal of negativity.

So, I'll just introduce myself. I'm Sharond. I live in Arizona. I have a life. I won't dedicate hours of my daily existence to this forum. I won't engage in time-consuming arguments either. I'll always be polite. I'm also mature enough to avoid name-calling and degrading comments. I'll offer no sympathies and I won't feel particularly awestruck over my fellow posters' accomplishments or tragedies. I'm a skeptic. I'll stay on topic. I'll express my opinions in the most impartial, impersonal way possible. I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. If you are pleased to meet me in this online universe, feel free to say hello to me. If not, just ignore me. I promise I'll do the same for all of you.

Having typed all of this, I shall now state my goal in this forum: From this point on, in all things concerning Nadya Suleman and her family, I shall endeavor to find something positive to express my opinions upon. I shall leave all the negative opinions to be expressed by the professionals who have permeated the online communities that are dedicated to this intriguing subject, including this one. These professional nay-sayers' opinions have become redundant, repeating themselves to the point of boredom and depression. It's time for fresh views, fresh insight, new ideas, intelligent opinions, and maybe, just maybe, we'll all discover new solutions. That's a pretty big expectation. For now, I'll just settle for better entertainment and maybe just a sprinkling of good etiquette, coupled with a better outlook on life in general. This must be accomplished slowly, of course. I'll begin with simply stating something nice, something positive, each time I log into this forum.

For those of you who would like to join me in this endeavor, please, accept my invitation and let us embrace a new era of civilized conversation regarding a fascinating subject.

In my next post, I'll begin. Looking forward to reading your posts,

Sharond

Hello, folks!

This is my first time here. I've been following your comments for quite awhile now. Like many websites concerning this controversial issue, I've observed a great deal of negativity.

So, I'll just introduce myself. I'm Sharond. I live in Arizona. I have a life. I won't dedicate hours of my daily existence to this forum. I won't engage in time-consuming arguments either. I'll always be polite. I'm also mature enough to avoid name-calling and degrading comments. I'll offer no sympathies and I won't feel particularly awestruck over my fellow posters' accomplishments or tragedies. I'm a skeptic. I'll stay on topic. I'll express my opinions in the most impartial, impersonal way possible. I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. If you are pleased to meet me in this online universe, feel free to say hello to me. If not, just ignore me. I promise I'll do the same for all of you.

Having typed all of this, I shall now state my goal in this forum: From this point on, in all things concerning Nadya Suleman and her family, I shall endeavor to find something positive to express my opinions upon. I shall leave all the negative opinions to be expressed by the professionals who have permeated the online communities that are dedicated to this intriguing subject, including this one. These professional nay-sayers' opinions have become redundant, repeating themselves to the point of boredom and depression. It's time for fresh views, fresh insight, new ideas, intelligent opinions, and maybe, just maybe, we'll all discover new solutions. That's a pretty big expectation. For now, I'll just settle for better entertainment and maybe just a sprinkling of good etiquette, coupled with a better outlook on life in general. This must be accomplished slowly, of course. I'll begin with simply stating something nice, something positive, each time I log into this forum.

For those of you who would like to join me in this endeavor, please, accept my invitation and let us embrace a new era of civilized conversation regarding a fascinating subject.

In my next post, I'll begin. Looking forward to reading your posts,

Sharond

the witch is back, the witch is back, indeed.

jz | June 19, 2009 11:57 AM | Reply
I may be mistaken, but in a past interview, didn't Nada say that she was going to sue US Weekly for some story they put out about her?

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WOWEE! YOU GUYS are going like a hot damn today..Bit more of this you'll smash this case. and put the bitc* in jail...

(hubby spilt a whole cup of coffee on the rug so I got carried away shampooing that puppy. Poor guy felt horrible.oh well shi* happens.)

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Octowomboom was going to sue In touch Magazine 'TWICE' first for the 'INACURATE' STORY THEY ran on her. Then for the stripper stuff. I believe in one of her interviews she was about to do that to A/W. Sue sue sue sue sue..HER middle name is sue..Nothing ever seems to materialize though..I would love to see a law suit for HER STRIPPER DAYS. wowzers..

Gala cares about humanity? since when? OH heck my mistake. it's called let us do what we want, when we want, AND to whom we want. Then I'll be happy..So everybody shut up about octoTHIEF and we (the pro-natalies_ will be content..Bite the bullet gala I'm here to tell it the way it is..NO B.S. I'll leave that to you..

Oh Sharon.... be sure to grab a beer, (teeth are optional), and hope you like pig's feet!

I'm right behind you BizzyBee. watchin your back...

Hello Sharond!

Wow, I got mixed impressions from that long introduction.

Welcome all the same.

All right, the inquisitionists found a witch already, it was fast and totally predictable. You have permission to call me 'witch' from now on.
Welcome Sharond, I take it that you could be in or related with the teaching profession. But those people are beyond any upward learning curve they could be helped on. Some people are fantastically beyond help and the bloggers here have been proving that to the world for so many months now. You can try to help civilize them. I will watch your attempts. But a more realistic possibility of success on this site is that maybe more healthy people like you will arrive here soon? Hopefully that will make Octorazzi happy. He has had to put up with aggressive mental cases for so very long now; maybe he started to think those people are normal even??? I am sure his blog was initially designed for people like you though.

No mixed impressions from that introduction- it was a flat out insult to everyone who doesn't kiss nada's azz.

Hi Cheyenne! And to everybody else.
I have a question, if anybody knows the answer. Back in March (towards the end) In Touch did an article that stated the state of CA was going after NADA for fraud on the children's birth certificates, because she used her dads name as the father to the babies! (YEK!) NADA didn't say anything about going after them for that! I just feel for them kids! Can you imagine looking at your birth certificate and see your grandfather listed as your father? I would have left that space blank, or put "Unknown Sperm" No Just Kidding! I would have just left it blank! Off to the store now so I can cook real meals for my family! Thank God for Fridays! Can't wait to have a beer later and sit back in the hottub! Talk to ya's later!

"Stop being spiteful because you never graduated from highschool, or college, and will never be allowed anywhere near a MA program".

Hahahahahahahahahhahaha....piss off.

Not only did I graduate highschool, I hold a degree from one of the most prestigious Universitys in the world. As oppose to some mediocre Community College( or standard College)..... Gawd, I'm still laughing at that comment.I doubt you could even name the top 3 Universitys in the world.
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Sharond...Now, isn't that Special...( in my best "Church Lady" voice)
Wow....you are saying/doing exactly what you are condemning the "other side" for. Only you used a dictionary and filled it full of pyschobabble by assuming our intentions here.
That was possibly the most self righteous response I've ever read. Apparently you seem to believe we'd even lower our standards ( and quite possibly our IQ's) to respond to you after the inital "What the Hell" moment....
Don't Flatter yourself..you're really not that important.

I am ignoring all antagonistic and irrelevant posts. ~ BizzyBee

Are there antagonistic and irrelevant posts/posters here?

I ignore that kind, they are absolutely invisible to me heh heh

Life is short, no sense letting those invisible ones get your goat!

seems like everyone drinks beer on here. does that make it easier to care for your kids?

I should have mentioned in my previous post that I intend to back up every opinion with verifiable sources. I didn't mean to leave out that important detail. I apologize.

To begin:

On March 9, 2009, Nadya Suleman had posted a handwritten blog entry on Radar Online. In it, she describes the love she feels for her baby as she gazes into his beautiful brown eyes. I believe this to be a touching description of her feelings. She compared the moment to chocolate, because it was so sweet. She describes being drawn into motherhood and finding it all-encompassing. Although she has experienced this before with her previous babies, she still discovers this anew. The powerful emotions do bring tears to the eyes, as she regards the miracle of life, which is an even greater miracle by the sheer circumstances of this historical birth. The handwriting of the blog makes it all the more poignant.

This brought fond memories to my mind. I remember gazing upon my newborn. What Mom hasn't fallen in love with her babies? I know I did. I also recall shedding tears as I felt the raw emotions bubbling to the surface. What a miracle! Thank you, Nadya, for sharing such a heartwarming moment with me and the rest of world. Ever since reading Nadya's blog, I haven't experienced a morsel of chocolate in quite the same way. It's not just a confection anymore.

Ankaret | June 19, 2009 4:37 PM | Reply

susaninwhittier | June 19, 2009 4:39 PM | Reply

I'm with you both. TOTALLY on board 100%.

And, I just came across this comment from another blog by a poster who just ABSOLUTELY sums up EVERYTHING we have all been saying. This person is clear, concise, and SPOT ON....

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Nadya Suleman Website Solicits Donations for the Octuplets
Saturday February 14, 2009

I've received numerous inquiries from readers about how to donate money to the Suleman family, and--thanks to a reader's comment on an earlier blog post--I now know the answer: Killeen Furtney Group, the public relations firm owned by Suleman's publicist, Michael Furtney, has created a web site where the public can donate money to the Suleman family using PayPal. They even take MasterCard, Visa, American Express, and Discover.

While the site is a very "Web 2.0" way of soliciting assistance, I'm sure it will be met with speculation--and worse--from many.

Clearly, part of the outrage in response to the single mother of 14 is over whether she "should" have sought IVF treatments at all during a time when she had no source of income and relied on her parents for housing and assistance with the six children she already had. She herself has explained that she used insurance money, received in a workman's compensation suit, to fund the IVF treatments.

However, she also claimed not to be on welfare; and yet, according to her publicist, Suleman receives $490 in food stamps each month, and three siblings of the octuplets' receive federal supplemental security income (SSI) pertaining to undisclosed disabilities.

While food stamps aren't technically "welfare" in the traditional sense, they certainly are a form of government assistance available through TANF (Temporary Assistance for Families in Need). And that bit of confusion contributes to the impression that Suleman is being, or has been, less than forthcoming about her situation--perhaps in hopes that she can garner financial support from sympathetic individuals and corporations.

In fact, I'm surprised that we haven't heard of an outpouring of support from companies who have given money, supplies, and services to high-order multiple birth families in the past. I certainly "get" people's outrage and agree with concerns over Suleman's motivations, but I also happen to agree with another reader who recently left a comment here on the blog, saying that we need to bear in mind that the babies are here. We aren't talking about hypothetical possibilities. They exist and are in need of care and, yes, assistance.

What do you think? What bothers you the most about the publicity surrounding the Suleman family, and are you concerned that there hasn't been a large outpouring of support from corporations for the single mom and her babies, or do you think her decisions make her an unlikely choice for companies' philanthropic dollars? Share your thoughts by leaving a comment here on the blog.

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February 14, 2009 at 7:42 am
(1) FaithG says:

Nadya Suleman is obviously emotionally disturbed as well as being supremely stupid, greedy, and opportunistic. She and her backers have badly misjudged the climate of the times; the American taxpayer is infuriated with the leeches and parasites that have attached themselves to the body politic and are the unfortunate spawn of both Wall Street and Main Street.

Suleman appears to have the scruples of an ally cat and the brains of a gnat. No responsible and caring parent would be so cavalier about the lives of her children as this wretched, narcissistic female appears to be; Suleman’s actions make it clear that she cares nothing for the poor children she already has, or she would have tried to do something for them besides supplying them with a seemingly endless supply of brothers and sisters. And she cares even less for the well-being of the octuplets—if she did, she would not have exposed them to the dangers inherent in multiple births. Some of these children will undoubtedly suffer from physical and developmental disabilities, to say nothing of the psychological and emotional damage that will be inflicted by neglect and by the selfishness, immaturity, and stupidity of their mother.

Just as we shouldn’t have to bail out mismanaged banks and car makers, we should not have to pay for the selfish and shortsighted behavior of this unbalanced woman. Her children are to be pitied because they have a whiny, self-serving dolt for a mother. They will also be followed by the disgrace of how they were brought into this world throughout their lives. And if they remain with Suleman, what kind of upbringing will they have? Can they avoid being buried by an avalanche of filthy clothes and diapers? Will they receive even a modicum of attention from their self-absorbed, spoiled, and foolish mother? The octuplets should be removed from Suleman’s custody, and any of her ill-gotten gains should be placed in trust (administered by a non-family member) to help offset the enormous cost that will accrue as these children face the numerous physical challenges (and probably emotional and developmental problems as well) that will haunt at least some of them all their lives. Suleman should be institutionalized for her own (and the world’s) protection before she spawns again. Additionally, the incompetent and egomaniacal doctor who was behind this abomination and Suleman’s sperm donor should be held accountable to the taxpayers of California as well.

And as for Suleman’s defenders who say that it’s nobody’s business how many children Suleman has and how they got here, Suleman’s mouthpieces should remember that with freedom must come responsibility. Freedom become sociopathy when it impinges on the rights of others; taxpayers did not ask for this responsibility and feel that being forced to pay for Suleman’s stupidity and blatant greed interferes with their own rights. They deeply resent the bill for the Suleman fiasco that is starting to come due just as their own bills keep piling higher and higher. Perhaps taxpayers should have the freedom to say no to supporting this despicable woman.

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if nadya was caught in a picture with a beer can in her hand.................

longtallsally replied to comment from sharond | June 19, 2009 4:48 PM | Reply

" I have a life. I won't dedicate hours of my daily existence to this forum."

Yours is one of the longest posts I've seen that says absolutely nothing. Good thing you're not going to "dedicate hours of my daily existence to this forum".

Maybe you can help, however.

Name one thing NADA has done that has been unselfish, decent and not for money. Nobody else is able to do this.

Go for it!

Aw, LongTall!!! Snap!!!

I would LOVE to see a response to your query.

longtallsally replied to comment from https://me.yahoo.com/a/OT1zc4lumPY3J6H6VtIB06hb1PJo2TgI#fca65 | June 19, 2009 5:03 PM | Reply

"if nadya was caught in a picture with a beer can in her hand................."

There are fourteen children supposedly in NADA's care. That leaves no time for beer.

Just tattoos and manicures.

Ummm, I don't mean to nitpick here but you forgot SHOPPING. For sh*t she don't need. 'Cause, you know, the nannies buy the food.

lets hope she doesnt drink the stuff and if she did you guys would find that wrong except you do it yourself.(applied toward those that say they are going for a beer.)is one wrong better than another?

Sharond....What a pompous, ostentatious............longwinded arrogant & condescending monologue. What do you mean.? You won't dedicate hours of your daily existence on this forum.........You have already dedicated at least six months worth... dictating to us regarding Your needs & goals ..No thank you...I will direct my own traffic. Now.sit on it & rotate.

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WoW JuSt WOW! BizzyBee, that says it all.

BEER CAN? AND DO WE INCLUDE THE "SELF-MEDICATING?? WHO'S MEDS IS SHE TAKING? FROM WHICH ONE OF HER KIDS?

What octotwit takes may not come in a beer can. But trust it's a much larger BUZZ, she is on something. IT will come to pass.

new post interesting ..........

https://me.yahoo.com/ca_grlz#33ead replied to comment from sharond | June 19, 2009 5:20 PM | Reply

In the RO diaries she also states:

"Having kids for me, is like having my heart walk around outside of my body..."

Pure plagiarism there! The quote is actually:

“Making the decision to have a child is momentous. It is to decide forever to have your heart go walking around outside your body.”
-Elizabeth Stone

LOL. What a phony poser.

ooops BizzyBee,

I was typing as you were commenting.
Sorry, didn't mean to repeat your answer!! ;-)

Just a little more about her "original" writing style:

"The song ended with Xander and Willow locked together in a deep loving kiss. Eventually breaking the kiss, Willow looked deep into THE CHOCOLATE POOLS of Xander's eyes and lost herself in them. It was almost like warm rays of love were beaming from those brown orbs and Willow felt the warmth spreading throughout her body."

Hot Nights in the House Of Scooby: Hacker/White Knight
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oddthings | June 19, 2009 5:30 PM | Reply

ooops BizzyBee,

I was typing as you were commenting.
Sorry, didn't mean to repeat your answer!! ;-)

It's all good! No worries :)

ummmm..my hand is up but no fourteen rug bugs.

https://me.yahoo.com/ca_grlz#33ead | June 19, 2009 5:31 PM | Reply

Just a little more about her "original" writing style:

"The song ended with Xander and Willow locked together in a deep loving kiss. Eventually breaking the kiss, Willow looked deep into THE CHOCOLATE POOLS of Xander's eyes and lost herself in them. It was almost like warm rays of love were beaming from those brown orbs and Willow felt the warmth spreading throughout her body."

Her ridiculousness rears its ugly head, yet again.

It's pretty funny.

Seems like everyone drinks beer on here. does that make it easier to care for your kids?

No...it makes it easier for us to tolerate octominions like you.

ps..I don't drink beer...and my sons are 26 & 19 respectfully. They are both highly educated, kind, generous, compassionate and respectful. Guess what? We have served wine with dinner since I was a child, and since they were born.Its a European thing, you know.
Shame on me....I even had a few cocktails during the course of their lives. Let me go cry at the altar for such bad mothering....can someone loan me a lighter...I have to light a few candles.

Really, are you serious with such an asinine comment?

Neigbour if you are referring to me and my husband making homemade BEER, you bet your ugly ass we do..So back off. WE have both worked since we were sixteen. RAISED OUR KIDS WITH NO HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT. We also do volunteer work. AS HAS my husbands mother for over 25 years and she has been honored for her dedication..YOU BET we drink beer. when ever the HELL we like and guess what how ever MANY WE LIKE..We don't have anyone to answer to. WE enjoy our lives and we have never ONCE cost anyone ANYTHING. We give we don't take. Both of our father's were in the service and heads up turkey lips we have lost people in Iraq AND afghanistan. so back up. What you do is nothing, YOU give dick squat other than to feed your own pathetic ego..
so here is to my fellow posters, I bow down to your dedication and admire you honesty and integrity CHEERS,CLINK, CHEERS,CLINK, CHEER, CLINK. HUCK GLASS INTO THE FIRE PLACE JUST THIS TIME...THANK YOU GOD FOR BEER.

NOW TO GO GET ANOTHER GLASS OFF THIS STUFF, MY PRECIOUS AND MUCH LOVED HUSBAND MAKES..THANK YOU MY LOVE....HAPPY FATHER'S DAY SUGAR, THANK YOU FOR MAKING A LOVELY LIFE FOR ME AND OUR KIDS...YOU ARE THE BEST THE TOAST OF THE PLANET. WHEN I COME BACK I WILL TOAST TO "MEN." MEN ARE AWESOME. MOST OF THEM.

Now that I've written an introduction, followed by my first post, I can see that I've achieved one of my personal goals for today. Many thanks to all who responded to me in a positive way and welcoming me to the group. This includes, but isn't limited to, Grandma B and Gala. When I log in again, I'll have more good things to type. I'll look forward to reading the same.

Until next time,

Sharond

Neigbour if you are referring to me and my husband making homemade BEER, you bet your ass we do..So back off. WE have both worked since we were sixteen. RAISED OUR KIDS WITH NO HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT. We also do volunteer work. AS HAS my husbands mother for over 25 years and she has been honored for her dedication..YOU BET we drink beer. when ever the HELL we like and guess what how ever MANY WE LIKE..We don't have anyone to answer to. WE enjoy our lives and we have never ONCE cost anyone ANYTHING. We give we don't take. Both of our father's were in the service and heads up turkey lips we have lost people in Iraq AND afghanistan. so back up. What you do is nothing, YOU give dick squat other than to feed your own pathetic ego..
so here is to my fellow posters, I bow down to your dedication and admire you honesty and integrity CHEERS,CLINK, CHEERS,CLINK, CHEER, CLINK. HUCK GLASS INTO THE FIRE PLACE JUST THIS TIME...THANK YOU GOD FOR BEER.

NOW TO GO GET ANOTHER GLASS OFF THIS STUFF, MY PRECIOUS AND MUCH LOVED HUSBAND MAKES..THANK YOU MY LOVE....HAPPY FATHER'S DAY SUGAR, THANK YOU FOR MAKING A LOVELY LIFE FOR ME AND OUR KIDS...YOU ARE THE BEST THE TOAST OF THE PLANET. WHEN I COME BACK I WILL TOAST TO "MEN." MEN ARE AWESOME. MOST OF THEM.

Hahahahaha..Chey

Amen!

BK

CHEERS TO ALL THE GREAT DAD'S OUT THERE. I SALUTE YOU AND HONOR YOUR DEDICATION AS A DADDY, A HUSBAND, A SON, A BROTHER, AN UNCLE, A GRANDSON, AND A FRIEND. NOTHING LIKE A MAN! MEN ARE RULE!

Too bad suleman, you did it on your own, all those kids...But actually EVEN then it was a
MAN that implanted you, and a MAN's sperm was used. And even that you didn't do with integrity. 'YOU RAPED HIM.' HELL YOU NEEDED TO USE 'TWO MEN' TO HAVE YOUR CHILDREN..

Cheers to good men!

Cheyenne_ | June 19, 2009 6:01 PM | Reply

Right on, you ENJOY that beer with your man.

Have a couple swigs for me, will ya?
On my own tonight with the little ones, no beer for me.

YOU ROCK ANKARET..don't stop posting your posts are worth the reading HELL I do believe I would pay the price of admission for your posts..

Then we have Sally knowledge comin out her wazoo, BizzyBee, damn good posts and informative, and my much beloved friend and co poster the infamous "GrandmaB." Who's integrity is untouchable. (although the boobs try..) and we have baboud well, meaning balboud. Good person I sense. and grlz, lovely lady. Erin, sweet person, susaninwhittier..admirable..and she is a force to be reckoned with..The quality of honor and character here is the absolute best bar none..Way to go ladies..I am deeply honored to be part of the clan.
oh we musn't forget Lise who gives me a facial tick. and our beloved Susan. and our precious giver neigbor..hardy har..Bless her heart anyway..the old boot. :)

_Cheyenne_ | June 19, 2009 6:23 PM | Reply

You are very diplomatic and

We enjoy you too :)

All of the VISIBLE posters here are great!

https://me.yahoo.com/ca_grlz#33ead replied to comment from https://me.yahoo.com/a/OT1zc4lumPY3J6H6VtIB06hb1PJo2TgI#fca65 | June 19, 2009 5:33 PM | Reply

Author Profile Page https://me.yahoo.com/a/OT1zc4lumPY3J6H6VtIB06hb1PJo2TgI#fca65 | June 19, 2009 4:42 PM | Reply

seems like everyone drinks beer on here. does that make it easier to care for your kids?

Sorry to spoil your theory dear- I don't drink beer or any alcohol for that matter. Not even coffee.

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You really should have a drink, it might help you take the time out and laugh at yourself. Maybe help you live a WEE bit.
You seem to think you're better than anyone else..Trouble is, even you don't believe that..
You don't have a life, you live OFF THE LIVES OF OTHERS you ride on their coat tails. you would travel a hundred miles to just get a glimpse at someone who really lives life to the fullest. JUST TO SEE IT..It happened that suleman moved into your neighborhood. And for you neighbor EVEN SHE WILL DO FOR YOU. HOW SAD. IT takes courage to grab life by the collar and enjoy it. WE have ONE run at life, this is NOT dress rehearsal. But one day you'll find that out for yourself. And for YOUR sake I hope it's not laying in a hospital bed with terminal cancer. For people like you though, that's usually what it takes...UNFORTUNATELY.
Maybe one day soon take a drive to one of the children's hospitals, And observe the courage of these little guys, who do their damndest EVERY SINGLE day to enjoy life as best they can. While you sit on you duff.

I assure you that limiting your comments to positive ones about Nada will automatically limit your time on this forum. No need for a big proclamation about that, as if it requires any sort of restraint.

Cheyenne you sadist, check yourself into a mental hospital and stop bullying Neighbor. How do you have the guts to tell her she will end up in hospital with cancer or that she doesn't have a life? What do you have, a sour psychotic mockery of a life? Take your meds and lay off neighbor now.

Neighbor; do not let those sadists get to you. I don't have the time to say it all the time when one of them attacks you (or is it the same under different logins?), but I admire what you do. A life of caring and giving and defending the victims is a well lived life. Not like the sadists cliquing here spewing hate. Imagine what a bad joke of a bully life they have.

above story was made short but it was(is) a very trying time for her and family and friends. i have several more but thats the only one you will hear about.i dont dwell on and on about the bad in my life . it does no good for anyone. try to help people, it does a body good.

Stick to topic

i did stick to topic read whole story

The topic was nada ditching an interview.

the topic is nadya period.

The topic of this thread is nada ditching an interview.

besides i was replying on what cheyenne wrote above not you.

Per Octorazzi 6/20/09:
In other words, COMMENT AWAY, FOLLOW THE RULES, STICK TO SUBJECT AT HAND, and PROVE YOUR POINTS.

Octorazzi- is Czech still AWOL?