Hey-oh!
Well, well, well! LUKE CAMPBELL IN DA HOUS! R U ReaDy 2 ParTeee?!
FILMINGis in FULL SWING! LATEST BREAKING NEWS HERE FOR YOU!
Highly-acclaimed documentary director Luke Campbell hit the ground running with his film crew and seemed to have his sleeves rolled up and ready as the plane taxied on the tarmac!
Starting at Suleman's home this morning, the Eyeworks crew got going with some HiDef 16:9 clips of Octomum outside her home.
Then Suleman escorted the crew over to a friend's home a few blocks away! According the MY SOURCE, it was about three hours of filming inside the downstairs condo occupied, as a neighbor told OCTORAZZI, by a young family. Octorazzi will get YOU more details on this one later!
Later is the afternoon, THE CREW once again showed up at OctoBase and after a brief meeting inside and a bit of filming, Octomom TOOK OFF WITH J.J. in tow for his SPECIAL DAY, over at DISNEYLAND!!!!
Recall Octorazzi told YOU Nadya gives each child their own SPECIAL day? Yes YOU DO... So Today's was J.J.'s.
But wait, JUST BY CHANCE, THREE paparazzi had been staking out the house because they heard FILMING was going to begin any time soon. SO, as the CHASE BEGAN, the film crew was able to CAPTURE something that really has not happened in a while. PAPARAZZI CHASING NADYA. Man oh Man! Luke sure is lucky when it comes to this EXTRA BONUS for his documentary!!! Wow-Wee!!!!
So, here's a little run down, ONLY A FEW HOURS BEFORE the BELL RINGS over at the O.C. Superior Court.
The film crew could ONLY film NADYA and her friend today because the paperwork for the children is not ready yet. The L.A. Court judge has to approve the paperwork filed by EYEWORKS!
The first day of filming went "well." And, EYEWORKS told ME we just have to "wait and see" when the children can be filmed "because of the permit approval." Eyeworks wants to "look after the kids."
When asked about doing everything by the book and NOT LIKE RADARONLINE, Eyeworks rep. only said "No Comment."
That tells you something, DON'T IT!
Photos below are:
NADYA trying to HIDE as she gets into her car to take J.J. to DISNEYLAND!
The FILM CREW on MADONNA LANE!
The PAPZ CHASING NADYA, even though they have not chased her in weeks, they showed up like clockwork just for LUKE!
Luke Campbell - Director extraordinaire!
Oh, almost forgot, Luke and his pal got a nice chuckle s we chatted and his pal recalled how people initially confused LUKE with the TWO LIVE CREW DUDE! Hey-oh!
Until Next Time,
LATES!
8razzi! hehe You have been busy on a Sunday. Way to go!
Yes I's ready to party!!!
Things are moving really fast now it seems. Rest well Octorazzi. Big day tomorrow!!
Sharond and Millie, just an FYI, your full names and mine were posted on this site and the NS site by GrandmaB. PS, they are still trying to find out who you are.
The Octorazzi moderator deleted the post immediately, but it took the Admin on the NS forum almost an hour to delete our names.
Actually, I'm glad. It was always intimidating to talk to logon ID's that had no substance. I was always afaraid that I was talking to multiple ID's, etc. Now I know that you are real and I feel very comfortable conversing with you. GrandmaB did me a big favor.
Even though we may not agree, I know that my version of the story will be heard and I will listen to yours as well. Good night, all, See you in the am PDT.
That is awful! I know there is some sort of issue that went on between the boards but posting real names is going over the top.
I already knew about this and I'm not worried about it. Many thanks to Mr. Roa for excellent and timely moderating! Hats off to you, Sir! If GrandmaB hadn't bragged about doing this at the NS site, I wouldn't have even known. That just shows how quickly you deleted that post...AWESOME!!!
*chuckle* Yea, I'm a real person. So's Millie. So are you. Millie really is a nurse, and a softie too. I really am a college student. I returned to college after caring for my parents until they passed away of illness and natural causes. I'm very familiar with medical issues, (Dad had COPD), but now that I'm "retired" from caregiving, I'm moving forward with my education. Hubby is real too, he really is a sys admin for an entertainment company. We're active in various causes, including animal welfare and the rights of the elderly.
For awhile, the NS board speculated that Mr. Roa and I might be the same person. That didn't last long! : ) I've never met the guy, but I still think it would be so kewl if he was related to Jennifer Roa and Zane Lamprey. Yea, I know that's silly! But I also like playing the Kevin Bacon game...lol
Anyone can feel comfortable discussing Nadya and her family and disagree and agree. Besides, I've agreed with you more than you realize. This is because you are taking the time to teach me, much like Robin did. Thank you.
Does anyone know what time the court proceedings start?
I have alot of yard work to do this morning, so I hope I won't miss anything. I'm sure there won't be any filming inside the court room, but it'll be interesting to catch the online reports as the court proceedings happen.
Thanks for the heads up about the names. They still have a couple of them up but misspelled either on purpose or by accident. They complain that we want to war with them but GrandmaB particularly can't resist baiting, etc!
I have enjoyed the past two days of give and take and like you it is nice to know there is a real person behind the post. I guess it is not really a big deal to have my name out there; it was already out there in other contexts. Of course in other contexts I am respected, not insulted. Interesting how someone we don't even know cares enough to throw insults about us in relation to another person they don't even know. Another subject for your psychology courses Sharon. As for me I am currently retired from both nursing and teaching and now confine myself to volunteer activities. In some ways it is much more rewarding. Right now I am somewhat slowed down with a fracture which isn't wanting to heal so have more time than usual to play around on the computer.
The court proceeding start at either 1:30 or 2:30 but I read that they moved the Suleman/Soleman case to the bottom of the docket so it will probably be heard towards the end of the day.
Yesterday was the octuplets 6 month birthday. Does anyone really believe that there was no filming of the babies going on, and that the crew was just there to film Nadya? It doesn't add up.
I wouldn't be surprised if the hearing isn't the big to do that some people want. I hope things get resolved and helps Nadya start to learn that there are rules we all need to follow. These are laws, but I hope Nadya takes a little something from the hearings besides the legal aspect and understands that society has rules and she needs to think out her actions before hand.
I have a funeral to go to, so I will be back later. My sil's dad passed away.
Good Morning everyone. Yes I am real, too. I just love my logon ID. I am a Duggie and I do reside in SoCal. I am also retired, 65 in October. For many years I was a volunteer and a foster home for rescued cats and dogs. If you've gone to a Pets Mart Store, I was that blonde lady with the Shih Tzu’s and Siamese mixes. I too have COPD and as a result had to curtail my animal rescue. I fact, I lost my Pekingese on Memorial Day. He was the last of my dog rescues. Tabby is the last cat, he is 19 years old. Because of my frequent 3 day vacations in the hospital, I don't feel that it would be right to adopt again.
And yes, I am a retired Computer Professional, 46 years. Got into the business right from the beginning or as my son would say, “in the good ol’ fashion days“. When I was employed, I did not have a computer in my house. Why would I work all day on them and then come home to one? Just like the shoemaker's children have no shoes.
But then I retired and found myself trying to find things to do. I knitted and crocheted as many blankets and sweaters that I could use in a lifetime so I bought myself a computer and here I am. I have never been involved in an online blog before because I followed company rules, business computers were not to be used for personal use. I have never been the target of cyber-bullying before. It's a very juvenile use of a computer and a very interesting subject for a thesis.
What I don't understand is why they target those that leave their 'cyber-gang'. It's like the days of prohibition and the Mafia. The only way out of the gang was death. And how they would drown out posters who do not think like them. It was a phenomenon that I watched as a NS poster. Inforsaturated, you seemed so confused when you tried to post on their site. First you received your invitation to join them and like a pack of wild animals, they surrounded you and chased you out.
And then there's Robin. Who is Robin and what did Robin do? I've read her blog. She seems harmless to me. You may not agree with her interpretation of the Octomom saga, but she is interesting to read.
Back to the court. The hearing has been set for later on in the day. When I spent my days in family court, they tend to put the most contentious suits at the end of the day. I guess they feel that sitting and waiting will cool your tempers. My experience has been that you must be in courthouse at the beginning of the session, morning or afternoon and then must wait until they call your name. So, if I'm right, Octomom will have to be ready for her hearing at 01:00 pm. But, then she will have to sit for hours, waiting. I also think that they do it to wear you down. Eventually, you will either become tired or broke and will have to give in to a compromise. Remember, you are paying your lawyer for every hour that you are waiting. I found that who ever has the most stamina and money, wins.
Remember my mantra, at the end of the day, the only one driving the Mercedes is the lawyer and you have just paid for his kids tuition at Harvard.
Duggie; That is my biggest fear with the financial guradian thing, that the attorneys will come out on top and the babies will be the ones to pay. The "pickins" are slim enough for them without all the vultures attaching themselves to the story. If they were the only siblings in the family they would have been better off because there wouldn't have been such a big split of profits, but this way by the time they start school they will be lucky to have clothes from Good Will or hand me downs from thrift sales. However, clothes aren't that big a deal in the grand scheme of things and they will always be qualified for food and medical care from the state. Having assets such as the house in Grandpa's name may actually protect them by keeping them eligible for programs to actually sustain life. Of course, thats supposing that Ca doesn't go so broke they have to cancel even those programs.
Just watched the Octomom blip on CBS and boy was it a blip. All that build up for a 5 second interview. Paul is just passionate about his quest to protect the children. He is not as concerned about the money, but about the welfare of the children. He mentioned the first day of filming and the jeopardy that Octomom placed the preemies in. We all agreed with that. I don’t know of any mother that would allow her newborn to be introduced to strangers on their first day home, at least not me. Aren’t we all warned about that, wait a few weeks until the baby has developed some immunity?
Anyhow, we will not hear anything significant from Gloria unless she wins a coupe. Yes, I said that I admire what Gloria stands for, but she can be quite bullish and obnoxious. Just a posture that a woman must take in a male dominated field.
Sharon, good subject to research. As an only female Manager with 12 males as my peers and 13 male subordinates, I had to learn ‘assertive‘, as opposed to aggressive, posturing. Very interesting subject. I have used it many times and it works.
As an aside, The Early Show is now devoting 10 minutes to the python crisis in Florida. Shows you where Octomom ranks.
Millie, California is a very liberal state. Too liberal. Owning a house, like myself, does not exclude you from qualifying for our Social Programs. Income is the criteria and according to the charts, for herself and the 14 kids, she can earn up to $136,000.00 per year to qualify. That gives her a lot of leeway.
That's why Californians are so angry. They are not as angry with her, as they are at the system. She just personifies everything that is wrong and we want this to change before we volunteer another red cent to these programs.
Here in Wisconsin Tommy Thompson left a legacy of rigid requirements and minimal help; it has actually caused a lot of people to relocate to states which are more liberal
Here in California, we thought that Arnold would do the same. He campaigned for lower taxes and workers comp reform. But he caved into the special interest groups (unions) and nothing has been done. Just for a laugh, our In Home Health Care Workers are unionized.
Our biggist lobbyist (complainer)is the teacher's union. We have the highest paid teachers in the union and the worst graduation rate in the union. We keep rewarding bad behavior. Sound familiar?
Like I said, this is one of the reasons that we would not vote for a tax increase. We want to force our state congressmen to peruse these programs and eliminate all the waste. Then we may be willing to co-operate, but not until then.
Well, time to go. Errands to do. Will check back later after the court hearing.
Yawn...Once again, absolutely no discussion about anything to do with the article posted. Still just old catty women nagging about another site. Don't you ever get tired of hearing yourselves nag? Apparently not. Adjust your tinfoil hats, ladies, obviously they aren't working properly.
Today's hearing should be a hoot. Do I expect a ruling, no. But to see Suleman having to sit still in her seat and not say a word when others are talking would be worth any price of admission. Can't wait to see the eye rolling and histrionics caught on tape afterwards!
Poor, poor neighbors. Just when they thought it would be safe to come out of their houses again, they get hit with this mess. I bet you most of them are just praying that Suleman follows through on her threat to move those kids out of state. They'll throw her a packing party I'm sure!
Hello,Millie.Lets hope everything turns out ok for Nadya. The documentary seems to be the best way for her to make enough money to raise 14 kids. As long as she follows the entertainment laws it will all work out. And Mr. Doud will be there to help them along. He does seem to care alot about his family.
Hi Sandee: As you may have noticed my email has been out all morning, couldn't even use Twitter. It's nice to see you here. I have had Nadya on my mind all morning and I think this will be a hard day for her no matter what happens. If she does have all her ducks in a row which I would expect with not only Mr Czech but also a "real" entertainment attorney, she should be OK and should not lose even financial guardianship. That is if the judge plays by the rules. I would guess that she can show earnings and explain where most of it has gone
I agree Sandee. I do hope she can make enough money to keep nannies day and night as well as having plenty of help with housework and cooking. Her time is better spent bonding with each of the babies and continuing to spend time with her older six children so they don't feel neglected. That's a lot for anyone. Nor can she spend all of her time with her children. Most mothers need "time out" for themselves to recharge and with 14 children she needs it more than most.
Today's court proceedings will probably be a huge letdown. I doubt the judge will rule today. He'll just take all the papers etc. and reserve judgement. I hope I'm wrong because like everyone else I am avidly awaiting the ruling. But, if he were to rule immediately whichever side lost would accuse the judge of making a snap judgement.
I have so many real names from that board it's ridiculous. I had no intentions on releasing them. Being a member close to day one allows one to learn many, many things.
PS, "They" obviously don't have the same sense of fair play that you do!
Octorazzi says above:
But wait, JUST BY CHANCE, THREE paparazzi had been staking out the house because they heard FILMING was going to begin any time soon. SO, as the CHASE BEGAN, the film crew was able to CAPTURE something that really has not happened in a while. PAPARAZZI CHASING NADYA. Man oh Man! Luke sure is lucky when it comes to this EXTRA BONUS for his documentary!!! Wow-Wee!!!!
Now I have checked all the normal sites that post these types of pictures, tmz, extra, x17online and have seen none other that the ones Octorazzi got.
Octorazzi, can you say if these were normal papz seen or could they have been paid extras for the reality show. Or did you get a few minutes of fame.
Anyone see pics of this other than octorazzi's.
It was all over the news with the court dates and contract stuff, but I did not see what they refer to above.
PS, "They" obviously don't have the same sense of fair play that you do!
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Maybe PS forgets that she's the one who posted ryan's full name first and octorazzi left it up for several hours before getting around to taking down. Sense of fair play?
They could easily be independents and failed to get any marketable shots or just haven't sold them yet.
tire of toxomom said it best...
Yawn...Once again, absolutely no discussion about anything to do with the article posted. Still just old catty women nagging about another site. Don't you ever get tired of hearing yourselves nag? Apparently not. Adjust your tinfoil hats, ladies, obviously they aren't working properly.
That had nothing to do with Millie, Duggie and others. You lashed out against the wrong people. No surprise.
Why is TMZ reporting that with the new $250,000 deal that the children will only get approx $17 a day when it's $250 a day. Very misleading.
Ps- Must be that they are not looking at the amount of days they are working. $250 a day is not too bad considering the amount they actually will be "working." Curious to see what Nadya is making.
Yes I am too! We will probably find out today.
I couldn't find the TMZ report but I think I read somewhere that that is the amount that goes into each trust account per day. Actually though, that would be $37.50 so that doesn't make sense either
Octorazzi reports on Twitter that he is at the courthouse waiting.....
The Twitter comment makes it sound like shes a prisoner!
No, not a prisoner, a celebrity
Is he going to be inside the courthouse?
Integrity isn't based on what other people do it's based on what you do.
So you condone what PS did? Is THAT integrity?
It just came to my attention that the reason GrandmaB shared the real names was because her work ethic was constantly being questioned. Why she didn't she just say that instead of bringing Ryan's name up as the reason makes one wonder.
You can always judge a person's character by their work ethic.
Info, you are a perfect example of someone who has integrity. I have seen your posts on the NS site and I have seen the responses. Ugly, sarcastic remarks (over and over) to what you have to say and never did I see you bite back or treat anyone the way they treated you.
You're one crazy-a lady... and your ASSumptions are just that.
What was the reason you posted Ryan's name? Because you care about that site? Or because you have a chip on your shoulder about that site? How much time did you have to invest to get that info? I bet it just gnawed at you the whole time.
I posted the names in response to YOUR posting of the Admin. info. Nothing more, nothing less. You're not the only that can do research.
Talk about h8trs!!
"You can always judge a person's character by their work ethic."
You can also judge a person's character by how low they will go.
Wonder if any one will be let in to view the court case? I hope so, Millie.
Well, guys... Razzi
Judge = 1
Nutsy = 0
ORANGE, Calif. — A California judge has appointed a financial guardian for the octuplets of Nadya Suleman.
GrandmaB, you went very low but we already know your character. They had nothing to do it with it and yet you list their names. Bad work ethic, bad character = GrandmaB
Now, enough about you.
Wonder how much longer til we get an interesting Tweet!!
Who is Norbert? That name doesn't sound familiar. Did they assign someone Nadya chose?
PS... game on.
BTW, you're a day late and a dollar short... GAL has been appointed and Gloria *will* be going to court again prior to the August 20 dismissal case. Wonder what else she has up her sleeve? I don't know, but I betcha it's GOOD!
No, more like a deformity at the freak show.
Or, is it a freak at the sideshow.
Your big daddy.
I'm so glad you asked.
It only took probably under a minute to find the owner of the NS site.
Now the other research, that took a wee bit longer over time.
With all this drama and tragedy we can all use a little xmas in July.
"The Twelve Days of Wishmas"
"Ode (Owed) to Nadya"
(Of course sung to the tune of millions and the traditional song:)
"The Twelve Days of Christmas"
On the first day of Wishmas the government gave to me
A $165,000 worker's compensation money tree
From the mental hospital where there was a riot
If you haven't tried collecting you really should try it.
Even though I couldn't "work" for the next ten years,
I still managed to have six babies to alleviate my fears.
The money all went to pay for fertilization invitro
By a sl**zy doctor who must have needed some extra dough.
That's when I started thinking I could have my own TV show!
So I pumped out those babies by getting student loans
It was really all quite simple you could seldom hear me groan.
On the second day of Wishmas the stork then brought to me
Two bewildered parents who have questioned my sanity.
When I complained I needed siblings since we were only three
Father called my doctor with a desperate angry plea
But the doctor didn't listen because his name would go down in history.
On the third day of Wishmas then publicists I got three
Who got some death threats or quit, saying they couldn't work with me.
So I decided it was time and I deserved to go on a spending spree
All stuff for moi and not a thing for even one baby.
On the fourth day of Wishmas I got my shows on Dr. Phil's
In hopes that money would then roll in to pay some bills
But the public's reaction only brought to them the chills.
He tried to be my savior and I got my own website
To ooh and awe the people who I had given such a fright
And to work over their consciences so they could sleep at night.
On the fifth day of Wishmas I got more cameras and press
And consultants to help my answers and guide me on my dress
All to help my babies and for me not to stress
But who is their daddy is any bodies guess.
He's my friend the "donor", not a deadbeat dad we say
So he is not to be responsible for one penny to ever pay
We'll just wink at that and continue the game to play.
On the sixth day of Wishmas are 6 little ones for attention waiting at home
I hope my mother is still watching so in the street they don't roam.
When I move to my modest $560,000 house she'll be out on her own.
But because I'm daddy's girl, his name on the deed is shown.
I earned this all you know without my parent's aid
Never receiving welfare I've got it made in the shade
(not counting all the food stamps and disability for three kids already paid)
So we can have our wants met and never be afraid.
On the seventh day of Wishmas I still need more answers to my dreams
So in comes more cash and gifts with designer nursery themes
And don't forget new stairs and some great new hardwood flooring
Just for good measure to keep my song from being boring.
(But I haven't pimped my kids or haven't gone a whoring.)
On the eight day of Wishmas
With all my brilliant decisions that's the way it goes
So what if they all have special needs these once frozen embryos?
Even now they hang onto life with troubles all their days
It will all work out as long as others are kind enough to pay.
On the ninth day of Wishmas
Like a cat on a hot tin roof
Some folks thought I had punked them and this was all a spoof
But I have a serious condition and find it Hard to tell the truth
So for all of us this will be like living in a telephone booth.
Ten little toes and fingers have each of them to play
When I haul them off to day care at my school one day.
I'll escape into books and study and announce "I did it my way".
Still letting others care for them while I go get my degree
Anyone out there think this isn't the land of the free?
But heck, why settle for less when you can be a celebrity?
On the eleventh Hour of Wishmas Heaven sent to me
Angels in Waiting plus one very savvy medical malpractice Attorney!
Now I can settle my kids somewhere outside the Hills of Beverly
And have more time to do my nails and then more plastic surgery
Some trips to Disneyland and on to Knott's Berry Farm
Just keep those Angels in Waiting so I'll do the kids no harm.
On the twelfth day of Wishmas
a dozen deals and opportunities to choose
How could anyone deny them or these little ones refuse?
Keep sending your donations to keep us floating in dough
Bring in more Paparazzi with photo ops and some selected shows.
I'm just a loving mother with some children for to care
If you have some hard earned money please don't hesitate to share.
HO HO HO Merry Xmas Nadya. HO HO HO
I wasn't around for "what PS did". Since I have returned I gathered that there was some dispute over who made a "scoop". I suspect that both websites came about their information independently. I gather that a public attack was made on Octorazzi's integrity which I consider uncalled for without absolute proof that he did not have his own sources. Octorazzi responded angrily which would seem to be a natural response.
It appears that it was within this framework that PS apparently posted personal information on the identity of the other site owner. I don't think that was right, however within the context of what was going on I am guessing she felt it was unfair that Octorazzi, who is not hiding his identity, was being attacked from a site that conceals the identity of the owner and the individual who claims they were plagerized. Doesn't seem quite fair to me either.
Nevertheless within hours Octorazzi removed the identifying information. As it is unlikely he reads everything posted real-time that seems to be a reasonable response time.
Octorazzi's identity is open and free to anyone who wants to know. The owner of the other site had his identity revealed for about 3 hours. Apparently you felt this was so dreadful that not only PS should have her identity known but other posters as well who had nothing to do with the incident. Why, because they said mean things to you? It's not justifiable and it reflects on your character not anyone else's.
millie, hope others were able to get in to view court hearing.
I heard you were tenacious.
Am I the only one who thinks it's hilarious that PS is getting all worked up about sharing of names when she did it herself?
What's that smell? Oh...That's the litter box she's in. Needs changing.
Millie, Duggie, SharonD and probably Info, things will probably get worse so please keep in mind that others can post as if we were actually making the comment. If someone says something out of context, keep that in mind. It happened to me the other night but Octorazzi deleted it.
Ho Ho HO Merry Wishmas Nadya Ho Ho HO
you wished it and now you own it.
Congratulations on all of your achievements and successes.
Just comment back: Personal Attack Personal Attack.
Thank-you PS, that's a lovely compliment.
LOL
That's Tenacious D to you!!
Hope this will help Nadya and not just further Allreds career with all this publicity
Yes, I hope it will help her right over to the other side of the pond. Put her on the dole in the UK. Lets see if the council estates meet her standards.
Allred has a solid law career. She does not need ghettoscum to further her career.
She creates her own publicity with all of her causes, i.e., womens rights, gay rights, etc.
Thanks for the warning PS. And no toxomom, I don't find it hilarious. I think most people think the person who commits the "crime" should be the one to pay. Apparently you and GrandmaB think any old target will do as long as you exact revenge.
Hello, folks! Just clocking in...is it true that the guardian has been appointed? Is it Terry Hammond or someone else? I'm sure Octorazzi will let us know when he has all the facts, but goodness, the suspense is hanging in my house like Christmas eve! Imagine choosing a guardian so quickly!
One thing that has me confused about this whole process: If the judge makes the decision today, what good will the dismissal hearing be next month? How can something be dismissed when it has already been decided by the court? Is the dismissal hearing like an appeal?
PS...the research GrandmaB did wouldn't have taken any time at all. The problem is this: First of all, the Admin of NS has taken care of this problem by contacting the Admin of the Octorazzi site. They both discussed the matter professionally and took care of it. They don't need and don't want someone, like GrandmaB, going around trying to exact revenge and fighting their battles for them. GrandmaB's posts were edited by the NS site Admin, which shows he doesn't approve or encourage GrandmaB's actions.
When Admins/Web Masters start these blogs, they know of the possible consequences and are usually prepared for them. Dangerous people that can actually use the info for stalking purposes in real life is a risk, among many other risks, that they thought through before they set up the sites. They know what to do about it. Posters, however, are not usually prepared for such risks. GrandmaB, you actually tried to put ordinary people in real life danger. In your action, you put the NS site at risk of shut down and possible law suit. Your Admin's response to the entire situation has been appropriate. Octorazzi's response to your post was also appropriate because you put the Whittier News at risk as well. Your response to the entire situation is definitely not appropriate.
The fact is, now, if anything happens to me and my family, or to any of the people you recklessly endangered, YOU, GrandmaB, would be considered an accessory to the suspect that committed the crime. And yes, the FBI would find you. If you did this from your employer's, you would be even easier to find. These two web sites would hand over your info and their logs, upon subpoena, because they would have too much to lose if they don't.
I don't believe you are a bad person, GrandmaB. You're trying to help your Admin of your site, which you love. I believe you don't understand the gravity of what you did to yourself and your family. I feel so very sorry for you.
The appropriate action to take would have been to file a complaint with the Whittier Daily News Editor. Keep this in mind for the future. If you don't like a site, complain in an email to Admin. They'll take care of it. If they don't, then just don't go to that site anymore. It's that simple. Meanwhile, you can complain about the site that you find offensive at another site.
Simonae was offensive and threatening, to be sure. Millie and I were scolded on an FB site, it's true. PS mentioned an Admin's name, which was on public record, yes. But you, GrandmaB, are the one who actually tried to hurt people in the real world. Just be glad you haven't been banned from either site and chat about Nadya. Don't give anyone anymore evidence to hold against you.
Lindy, Your 12 Days of Wishmas...ROFL...have you read the limericks at the NS site? I luv those! Very talented people over there! I can't get into the cowgirl chronicles though...too weird. Creativity is the spice of social satire!
LOL...*reading it again*
Excuse me Sharond? GrandmaB tried to hurt someone in the real world? Your names are available to anyone who can log in to facebook. Please don't forget that it was YOU who posted the link to the site to begin with. Once you did that, you made yourself known to any and all. That was not a smart move to do. Was it wrong of GrandmaB to repost them here? Obviously Octorazzi thinks so because he deleted them.
And if something happens to the owner of the NS.com site? Will you chide PS for being an accessory since she posted his name publicly or is your hypocrisy showing again?
I saw that. GrandmaB must feel powerless and revengeful. She's a tenacious one and no one wil tell her to shut up.
Pot calling the kettle black.
In fact sharond, I would go so far as calling your post:
PERSONAL ATTACK PERSONAL ATTACK
Why would something happen to the Admin? That's nonsense. What was done by a poster of the NS site toward RR: Now that was harmful and could have put him in danger so go back to your sleeze forum and hate on Nadya's nails.
I can't take credit for the "12 days of Wishmas." As, it was not written by me. I don't know the author, but this was originally posted here by Octorazzi, himself.
Psychic abilities? No, I think you are her friend and that is why you have insight on how GB feels. I don't know if I would want my friend disclosing my feelings all over the internet.
What happened to the peace-loving and all-accepting attitude you had a couple of hours ago?
Are the true colors showing?
Take it easy. Go bake some cupcakes- that will put that smile back on that sour puss.
Lindy I loved it!
Me too Sandee. This outcome didn't occur to me, that he would appoint a temporary guardian and not the one Petersen and Allred wanted. I wonder if it's someone Jeff suggested or if it's someone the courts have on file as pre-approved. I'm also interested in the temporary nature of the appointment.
I had thought that the courts would have all the pertinent financial information and would judge on that basis therefore would need time to go over everything.
Now I think maybe that is the focus of the temporary guardian. This is a very high profile case so the court has to be sure they are seen to do due diligence. Depending on the temporary guardian's findings a permanent one will or will not be assigned. What do you think?
Is Nadya in the HOUSE???
Nadya if you are there, please give us your reaction and feelings about the proceeding today. We need to hear it from the horse's mouth...neigh.
Sharon, the info I posted was publicly posted by the people on here. So I don't think you can say I put anyone in danger. If anything, you put your information "out there" for anyone to get!
To many crabby cakes here. I think I will go and bake some cupcakes, or mmm... Sprinkles Cupcakes. All those wonderful flavors. Do you all have Sprinkles in your town? Or are they exclusive to California?
I'll come back later.
" PS | July 27, 2009 5:23 PM | Reply
Why would something happen to the Admin? That's nonsense. What was done by a poster of the NS site toward RR: Now that was harmful and could have put him in danger so go back to your sleeze forum and hate on Nadya's nails."
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What you're accusing me of is something that you also did. If you think there was something harmful about my post, then I think you should look at yourself and ask the question, "Did I do anything that could be harmful to the Admin"?
Now we really know where the h8trs live. Here.
******Sorry one more thing.
I saw that Glamor Head Shot, too. That would be enough to attract a stalker and I am talking of the male species.
Is Gloria coming back to court because she is displeased with the person assigned as the financial guardian? Was she there today?
Wait, are you confessing to doing that to RR?
"Wait, are you confessing to doing that to RR?"
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PS, get your head out of your... I'm talking about my posting of your names.
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"Is Gloria coming back to court because she is displeased with the person assigned as the financial guardian? Was she there today?"
Are you drinking??? Geeez! Allred HAD to be in court today. Read the posts, PS, and put the glass down!
Well I never said you posted that comment EVER! so that's why it was weird that you cut and paste that and responded.
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Why did she have to be? What about her main attorney who is on the record? I don't think she did, except for publicity maybe?
Now unless you have absolute solid proof of that, you need to stop making that accusation. Sour grapes isn't proof. Just because you believe something to be, doesn't make it so and doesn't give you the right to go on your rampage.
In fact, I would go so far as to say that what you keep doing is a good case of libel.
You have a mean, vengeful streak in you that is caused by something lacking deep inside of you. I think you are one very, very sick puppy.
I luv cupcakes, Lindy...and even though you can't take credit for it, the Wishmas song was great!
For Lindy and everyone else,
I just gleaned some news about today's court ruling. This is a bittersweet day. I see both good and bad in this. And I see history repeating itself so much and this was predictable. The Big Boys have descended. At least, so far, Nadya will be allowed to keep her children and care for them.
And for those who want to make cash donations, well, they'll be able to send straight into the Coogan accounts, I spoze. At least there will be accountability.
""""What you're accusing me of is something that you also did. If you think there was something harmful about my post, then I think you should look at yourself and ask the question, "Did I do anything that could be harmful to the Admin"?""""
SO TO MAKE EVERYTHING PERFECTLY CLEAR:
You disclosed the real names of Millie, Sharon and Duggie here on this board (and the other) because I disclosed the Admin's name. You were teaching ME a lesson?
Well, time for me to go, folks! Chat with you again, sometime!
"Why did she have to be? What about her main attorney who is on the record? I don't think she did, except for publicity maybe?"
Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.... Gloria IS the main attorney on record! The probate attorney's listed on the original filings were co-counsel.
Again, half-baked facts twisted to suit your sick little games.
Is she always this dense?
Millie and Sharon exposed their own names. All by trying to be show-offs on another site. OOPS.
Information was repeated here and suddenly everyone is crying "foul"...Time to break out the world's smallest violin...
screech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS, you're not even coherent enough for me to reply to you tonight. Get some rest.
Me too sharon. Work calls. I don't use my work computer for personal internet use I guess I'll be missing out on a lot. Have fun.
Thank you for explaining that Toxomom!!
There once was a gal named Nadya,
who lived in California,
she produced babes so rare,
people gave cuz they cared,
Now the Big Cons get the cash--oh, Nadya!
Sorry, couldn't resist! Once again, buh-bye!
Unbelievable, isn't it?
Sharon- I don't believe there was anything in this court hearing that discussed whether Nadya was going to keep her children or not. I don't believe that was an issue at all.
Of course anyone can do whatever they want with there own money, but given the circumstances, I am sure there are a lot needier children than Nadya's. Even though she has a large family, if you add up what the children will be making, their disability payments, any type of assistance/donations given, and Nadya's opportunities, they have a lot more than many many families out there.
I like to give to local organizations that provide basic needs to low income families. I also have a better idea where my money is going.
I can’t believe it. I go to have my blood drawn and the Octorazzi site has gone to hell in a hand basket. And I am going to chide my new found friends. I thought that we were going to remain sane and ignore the trolls. And that’s what they are trolls. In fact they are not even they, they are ‘he’. It is the same troll with multiple logon ID’s, that has been bullying you all along. I even believe that Jake was one of his ID‘s.
The reason that I believe this is because when I worked in Information Services we had to logon to multiple software products at one time. We would have a session with the Mainframe, a session with the internet, a session with VTAM, a session with Word and Excel, so on and so on. Several links can be configured to one station and from there, you split the screen and establish your sessions. So he can logon with different ID’s and just tab from one screen to the next. Is it only me that can see that the writing style is the same for all of his ID’s?
And how do I know that it is a man. His foul mouth makes references to body functions only a man would be interested in. And the slander against Raul. A woman does not get even like that. If it was a woman, she would have thought of a different way to get her revenge.
And the different locations. I explained how that can be. He is a Network Engineer who works for a company that has satellites in the US. Haven’t you noticed that he knows the names of cities in SoCal, but does not know the first thing about them. I.e., Disneyland does not allow you to bring anything into the park. They even pat down your jacket pockets. They are afraid of terrorism. And he did not know that Octomom lives less than 30 miles from Disneyland. And that is a direct drive down Harbor Blvd. right into the Parking Lot. To a SoCalifornian, a 30 to 60 mile commute to work is the norm. Some of us travel even further. And after 05:00 pm., the under 12 crowd at the park thins and you can climb aboard any ride designed for that that age group. There are no lines.
And for us who are just casual PC users, we have the normal setup. PC, Monitor, Printer, Router and a DSL line. To a fanatic, they have a Server with a LAN setup in their house. He doesn’t even have to have the PC setup with a split screen, he could be logged on to the several PC in his house and then like a loony tune, run from room to room.
I’m just saying that do not think we are being bombarded by a whole new group of bullies. It is the same one with different logon ID’s. The only way to combat this person is to ban all the IP addresses associated with his ID’s. Is Octorazzi’s Web Master willing to do this? I don’t know.
But please, DO NOT FEED THE TROLL. Didn’t we all agree?
Now about the guardian. A judge once told me that if one party felt that they lost, he did not do his job and if one party thought that they had won, then in this case, he also did not do his job. A good judgment makes ‘both’ parties win a little and lose a little. Paul had his nominee and Czech had his. So, to the judge neither were acceptable and he appointed is own. This way neither side could accuse the other of impropriety. It's done all the time. And yes, this is not over. How are the lawyers going to many any money off this mess? JMHO TYVM
Lulu, I totally agree with you. There ARE more needy families out there. It may be tight for the kids but what family hasn't had to live on a budget? I think this will be something new for Nutsy.
I just got home and read this and I think the
Allred camp might be rejoicing a little prematurely. All that really happened is the judge independently appointed a temporary guardian to look into the case and see if there is any justification in the accusations. Nadya has her appeal for dismissal on Aug 20 and then and only then can/will we know which side won this round. If they have done everything they said to be sure all laws were being followed the judge might very well dismiss the case.
Next, I really could care less about having my identity revealed. Maybe now certain people will realize I am not Helen or Susan nor am I related to Jeff Czech and I do not live in Somerset Wi. I would hope that I am relatively safe in my little corner of the world and if someone is nasty enough to come looking for me here I will just have to trust in my God to protect me. I have done nothing to be ashamed of and I have nothing to hide. My life is basically an open book. I also don't have young children to be threatened by those who are so minded and as has happened to some. I do think it is strange that GrandmaB sought to get revenge on PS by attacking other posters but I guess if that's what makes her feel happy and like a winner she probably could not have found 3 less vulnerable people to pick on.
Duggie... this was really a fun read! Thanks!
Duggie....have you been drinking too? Has it ever dawned on you that a majority (like 90%....or more) hold a very negative opinion of Nadya??? You,supporting Nadya, are a very small minority!!!!
Enough with your insecure notions the world is against your sympathetic beliefs for this bottom feeder!!!
Duggie... this was really a fun read! Thanks!
Duggie, you're right...I apologize. I knew better. I like the way you put that...Don't feed the troll...kewl! : ) I hope all is well with your cbp results.
Millie, you made a good point. It's too soon to tell. I jumped to conclusions because I feel that she can't win. It's all too overwhelming. Kind of like David and Goliath...But David did win, didn't he? Time will tell how this all goes. It's just that history has been repeating itself so much. To see what I mean, read "The Dionne Years" by Pierre Berton, or go to hhhttp://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3683/is_199401/ai_n8716816/pg_10/. There are many other links about the Quints as well.
My word. A little long winded tonight.
On and on she goes where her logic ends, no one knows.
Thank goodness you don't have to run room to room and from computer to computer.
I feel like I need a tank of Oxygen just to get through that post.
You have the "scoop" on everyone, so whatever happened to Jake? I liked Jake's mania-filled comments. They were funny and I can imagine how worked up he would get himself.
As I read through Dugie's and Mill's posts, I thought they were one person and that he/she was Jake, the Nadya cheerleader, since their personal thoughts have little basis in reality.
Then I noticed the viciousness and obsessiveness he/she displays and realized that this is not Jake but maybe his wife in need of HRT.
But now I read their real names are posted somewhere, so I guess I was wrong all along.
I don't know the whole story...who really cares. No one is going to go looking for you two. Why would they want to?