The AP reports on SULEMAN OCTUPLETS; $250K split by the 14 kids over 3 years

Octorazzi, I am disappointed in you for being so unfair!
The only way to judge the fairness of the amount is to know how much time the children will spend on camera versus how much time Nadya will.You reported that the deal is a documentary about Nadya and what led up to her having the octoplets not about the octoplets themselves.

Everyone is always wailing about how she is exploiting her children but except for your shots and other shots by the paparazzi I have hardly ever seen them. Maybe you don't realize it because you see them all the time but go back and watch all the video on Nadya and the Octoplets. Sometimes we do see them but not a lot. She couldn't keep them off camera much more than she has already unless she was trying to.

It is my understanding that Nadya will have to pay for the nannies and whatever house they move to and vehicles for her and the nannies to transport them and all the other expenses connected with raising the children. Even you must admit that is going to take a LOT of money. The children's money doesn't get touched until they are 18. At the rate the children's savings will go up they will have no trouble paying for college or university. In the meantime, Nadya's money will have to support them.

Octorazzi, is that the payment for a series of 1 hour specials or just a payment for the first 1 hour special? Unless we know the terms of the contract, we can't judge if it is fair or not. That's what the FG is for, no. I would hope that he is not just an accountant. Maybe the children should hve their own lawyer so that he can negogiate a fair wage for them as well. I would think that there would be a conflict of interest if Czech represents both the mother and the children. Sort of like one lawyer representing a husband and wife in a divorce settlement. Just asking.

I never did like lawyers to begin with. By the time he is through with you, he's the one driving the Caddy and his kids are the ones going to college.

Anyone know how the Duggars split their money?

To be honest, I don't think that Octomom is fairing as well as she pretends. As I have stated before, the Disney and Universal trips were probably given to her. She continues to wear only Guess clothing and Guess purses. I believe that this Californian manufacturer donated these clothes to her. If she was using her own money, the Brea Mall sells more brand names other than Guess. Their flagship store is Nordstom's. And this poultry amount of money may be all that Eyeworks s willing to pay. You don't see any other takers uping the bid. Remember this guy produced the 'Pregnant Man' and the 'Half Ton Woman' (freak shows). These are not stellar reality series.

And I agree with Infosaturated. She has a very long way to go. And as the children grow older, they will become more expensive to raise. The public will forget or nolonger care and Grandma and Grandpa will not be able to help. She has no aunts, uncles or siblings close enough to help and support her. Even with her college education, she will never make enough money to support them all.

I almost feel sorry for her.

Gloria Allred spoke about the night the first two babies came home, specifically that Nadya had told a nurse who was trying to help one of the octuplets, to "get out of the shot" and Nadya was concerned that some of the photogs may have gotten some pictures of the babies without paying.

These could be introduced as evidence to show where Nadya's concern was that evening. Judge would not like it, me thinks.

Of the 250 K over three years they only have to put 15% into a Coolgan account. That leaves about 165K for Nadya to use for them. 165 divided by three years is about 55K a year. Nadya will then of course have her cut, for her work, which I assume would be A LOT more than them. She gets SSI for three of the children, plus I imagine she is getting something for all of the little ones if what I read on the SS site is true. This is possibly only for the first year, but I see at least 1-2 of those babies being diagnosed as disabled. Look at the twins- Calyssa is truly disabled? I know if she isn't speaking ( wasn't her disability speech delayed?), that is an issue, but I also don't know if those types of disabilities need a payment at such a young age. Same with JJ- I always wondered why an ADHD needed an SSI payment. ( I know it is technically legal- just giving my opinion on the system). You put all those monies together- SSI payments, kid's earnings that Nadya uses, freebies given, her income, then it is well over 100K.

I guess a lot of large families live on a lot less proportionately. I really don't feel sorry for her financially. With BUDGETING AND A CHANGE IN LIFE STYLE, I think she will be fine, FOR AT LEAST A FEW YEARS. It will be interesting to see what happens down the road. Plenty of children put themselves through college and with a family that size financial aid will be easy to get. I don't see her working for a long time. How would you pay for day care for all those children- impossible. But Nadya just was speaking off the top of her head about raising them as a counselor; as usual not even thinking through her statement. LOL I don't see her very marketable either.

I think the Peterson and Allred suit is a good thing. These children need to be protected. Okay, MAYBE Nadya is following the rules this time due to the publicity, but she easily "forgets" what she is suppose to do. She gets caught up in Nadya. No one knows what will happen down the road for these children, so set up what is needed know. Just that Nadya is screaming she will move out of state. . .she is missing the point of the suit and what this is all about. Czech is all about his few minutes of fame. There is nothing wrong for someone to overlook the octuplets finances and to make sure things are taken care of. Hopefully any monies made/given to the octuplets up-to-date will be sheltered appropriately.

Info-I don't understand you comment in your last paragraph about Nadya having to move and pay the nannies? If you are talking about the documentary, I thought most of it would be shot at home for everyday activities? Why would they need to go/move anywhere? If you are talking about a move to a house in later years, why shouldn't Nadya have to pay for her moving expenses? Maybe I don't understand your point???? I still stand by that Nadya is most likely NOT paying all those nannies out of her own pocket. Maybe she is writing out the check, or submitting the hours, but most likely a large chunk of their pay is being paid for my the state. I live on the east coast and had a friend who had a multiple birth ( LOL Not of course 8!) She was shocked when she found out how much assistance the state gave to her preemies the first year. She just didn't call the help a nanny- it was called respite care.

It just amazes me that sports stars and many in the entertainment get paid so much. Especially these reality stars. My mouth dropped when I heard what the Goesellins get for each show! They've paid the price, but who knows without the show they may have split up too. The difference being that we wouldn't have known about it and they've be like many divorces these days.

You are right Lulu, as I have posted before, it's amazing how many city, state, federal and philanthropic programs the state of California has for both low income families with children and for the low income seniors. And I am not proud. I qualify as a low income senior and you bet I apply for every benefit that I am entitled to. What person in their right mind would say no? And yes, I figured out the amounts months ago for Octomom and she can earn up to $136,000.00 and still be considered low income. I know it sounds outlandish, but it's true. So, what should she do, say no to the money? I think what infuriated everyone is that she did not call it welfare. Well, I have to say, I don't consider my benefits welfare either. What would you call Medicare or the prescription drug benefits?

And when I tried to explain this, I was called lazy just like Octomom. Since when is a person who worked 46 years and chose to retire at the age of 65 considered lazy? They are so blinded by their hate that they can not see the reality of it all. And yes, as a middle aged, middle class person working a 40 hour week, I resented those on 'welfare' also. Little did I know that this class of people would include me in a few short years.

And am I glad to have the support. Social Security pays very little and every $20.00 counts. Yes, a budget must be kept and adhered to, but still the monthly stipend does not come soon enough.

And I agree that a FG should be assigned to the chidren. In fact, I think they should have their own lawyer and/or agent who can negotiate their contracts for them. To have one lawyer can be a conflict of interest, especially when the mother does not believe the children deserve a salary. JMHO

Well, Nadya does not think like the rest of us and that is what I think angers a lot of people. She has this sense of entitlement which really gets to me. I also think she does not think rationally, nor does she think anything out.

We have friends who would have liked several children, but had a mentally handicapped child. They chose not to more children because they knew the care their child would need. They also wanted to start putting away money for her, because they knew she would need care for the rest of her life and didn't just assume the state should pay for it. Their daughter-their responsibility.

We had no insurance for our first, so we signed and paid $25 a month until it was paid off.. We probably could have applied for assistance, but it didn't even dawn on us because it was our responsibility. We could afford the 25 a month.

My children have been on the reduced lunch program. Both my husband and I were working, and did not feel this was money that we were entitled too, but took advantage of it because applying also allowed our school to up their poverty level to qualify for state funding for computers etc. We work, we contribute to the whole.

I don't think anyone Duggie is against many of these government programs that assist those in need. I am glad you get the assistance to help you. It is the abuse of the system that angers people. Nadya has abused the system over and over again. just by having the number of children she has had, without any means to support them is just one way.

I get upset when I see Nadya buying fancy play yard equipment and going to Starbucks while asking for handouts. She could be putting that money away for that rainy day that might come before those children are all out of the house. I am not asking her children to be denied things in life, but MANY if not most do not have these material items. I know I saw an interview where her father said he paid for some of the tuition. Yes, probably she gets a big discount, or the kids go there next to nothing, but the public school system is good,and the money for tuition could be spent elsewhere instead of asking for assistance. My children rarely got to go to McD's. It was a big treat. All these things add up.

I could rant and go on and on, but you get what I am annoyed about. These kids should also be learning life lessons, like budgeting, sorry not enough money for this etc. Those are good lessons, just like kids learning discipline and what "no" means is a good thing.

Yes, you are right. But you have to remember what makes her tick. She has been a spoiled brat all her life. Her Mom and Dad treat her like their little princess and they have not taught her life's lessons. Her Dad even admitted on Oprah that she had the mentallity of a 13 year old, and she does. And this is when the story gets interesting. If you watch her and listen to what she says, does she sound all there to you? Not to me. Couple that with her immature behavior and I question if she herself is not disabled. That may explain the 'pollyanna' attitude. Everyone kept telling me that it was a Narcissistic personality, but I keep seeing something more.

She can not teach her kids lessons that she herself has never learned. Take my Mom. Her montra was 'charge' and I followed in her footsteps until I got so deep in debt. When I finally recovered, I swore that I would never do that again. But I had to learn that life lesson my way. She will learn hers. The money will not be there later on and she will be wishing that she had the money for the expensive play gym in her hand. Her time will come.

Just like Jon and Kate. How long do you think their money will last after the show ends and they have to pay for the house and their seperate million dollar apartments. They are squandering their money too.

Fast money in, fast money out. How many lottery winners are broke?

It was asked if I would share what else I knew about the Owner of the Nadya Suleman Board other than his name being Ryan. I wish to oblige.

Nocturnaled (Ryan **** ADMIN REMOVED FULL NAME PER REQUEST)

Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Honolulu, HI
Posts: 125
How did Nadya Suleman (mother of octuplets) site get ranked so high and so quick?
Have you heard about Nadya Suleman? The lady who recently had octuplets? Anyway, she created a new site and it is ranked as the very first site and the site just came out either today or yesterday. Did Google just automatically rank her the best because they feel pity for her? Why would they do such a thing? I bought her domain name and put up a site, www.nadyasuleman.com, and I'm on the 2nd or 3rd page as far as SERPs go. Is this normal for Google to do such a thing?

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Question: Public Service Ads being shown on main page but not on single posts

Nocturnal
Level 1
2/28/09
My site is hhttp://www.nadyasuleman.com.

I've deleted any questionable keywords.

Can anyone else help me narrow it down so that I can get the ads to start showing up again?
All answers

Ray
Level 4
2/28/09
If the site was suspended for questionable words it takes a while for the spider to check it again.

Nocturnal
Level 1
2/28/09
Thank you. I was getting concerned. I appreciate the feedback.

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Also, Val I think you protest tooooo much. LOL

I get why people are angry with her. But being angry at someone doesn't mean that absolutely everything they do is wrong and they are the spawn of the devil. Nadya is condemned for the very same thing other people do. Some of her detracters will not be satisfied until she is working at a MacDonalds and is otherwise at home and never ever buys anything for herself ever again. I don't think that's reasonable. No matter what she does she will be condemned for it.

You can't have it both ways. If Nadya is responsible for the octoplets existence you can't then say she isn't responsible for her fame.

(with a day limited to a few hours)
year 1, 36 days of shootings, 125,000 (split)
(that works out to 3 days a month)
They get 250.00 each per day, so about 50$ an hour to play with their toes.

year 2, is only 21 days, 1.75 days a month
year 3, 14 days

Contrast that with the Duggers and Jon and Kate who film days per week and who knows how many hours per day.

Yes Nadya has allowed some access and the night the first babies came home was bad but overall there is very material on the kids themselves and even less if you only count the paid access. Whatever you may think of her she could have been making a lot more money selling pictures worldwide. The Radaronline videos could have included a lot more shots of the babies. If she keeps the cameras on herself she is self-centred but if she lets the cameras go on her kids she's exploitative.

As to housing, the babies are two to a crib. It's a four bedroom house. 14 children plus staff take up a huge amount of space. She is going to need a significantly larger house. Babies only need formula or breast milk. As they get older their food is going to take up a lot more space in the kitchen. In large families older children frequently care for younger children. That can't happen here. The logistics of appointments at doctors and dentists and school etc. are huge. It seems that she does try to give the children individual attention. That is going to be very tough.

PS, I am confused by your post. It may be due to the fact that I never got into web design and there may be a different language spoen there. On my side of the pond we dealt with Mainframe Computers and Servers, their networks, software and batch processing.

Can you please explain, or do you mean to be vague? If so, go for it, those that you have targeted with your post will understand.

Octorazzi

Would you please remove ryan's full name, I am sure that PS did not really mean to post it here, since she removed it when she posted it on LA weekly.

PS, Never mind, now I understand, I just had to take off my lazy hat and put on my research hat. I found my answers.

And whocareswhoiam, do you really think that this will be the last time? When you allow your posters to be so hateful towards each other, it eggs people on to do more than just post. This is the aftermath. We are watching it unfold and it is no one's fault other than the moderator's of these sites in question.

Removing Ryan's name is a mute point. We all know now how to find his name again. Just the same way we found all of Octomom's surnames and Simonae's aka's. It's not very hard.

That's why everyone is warned, there is no secrecy on the internet, so be careful what you post. Even in the early 80's (before Personal Computers), mainframe computer's had logs, and I myself know of several terminations due to misuing the computer and it's TSO function.

I really am so glad that this has happened. Maybe now we can go back to the beginning when we had intelligent debates. These sites have been nothing more that outlets to hurt as many people as we can. We should all be ashamed.

I doubt she had enough money for a larger house when she bought that one. Yes, I saw the Radar Online videos and for the vast majority of time the camera was directly on Nadya. Occasionally there were kids running around in the background but they weren't the focus. I recall seeing the babies all on the bed with her, and once lined up on the floor. A few times she had one baby in her arms and once a nanny had a baby in her arms too. Nevertheless the focus was on Nadya not the kids and not the babies. Even those shots of her in the car with her daughter the primary focus was on Nadya. I think she got her daughter to say hi or something but that was it.

There are millions of children in North America and across the world in much worse circumstances than Nadya's children but I don't see a big hoopla about them. I don't see demands that children living in cars, in the U.S. with their parents be taken away from them. I don't see a big uproar about all the children going to school hungry or coming home to an empty house because their parent has to work and doesn't make enough money to pay for care. No, the really big outrage is saved for Nadya's kids who seem to be doing fine.

I don't think Nadya is innocent and I don't think she's a great mother either. So? One way or another she still has to support them. She still has to find a way to keep them housed etc.

Concerning state aid, I am sure the appropriate authorities are aware of her story and if there is a problem they can go after her. Some people say because she has or is receiving state funds that gives them some kind of rights but it doesn't. Government aid doesn't mean everyone gets to vote on your life.

I really don't think that she had a choice of houses. First, the money did not roll in as she expected and second, none of the Sulemans has the credit score to obtain a mortgage. Through Ed's real estate connections, they found an adequate house that the seller was willing to sell to them on their terms. They made promises that they could not keep and Mr. Haddadin is left holding the bag.

Think, back to her first interview, she looked like a rag-a-muffin. When she went on the Dr. Phil Show, she cleaned herself up. I'll bet Dr. Phil gave her an allowance to buy the clothes and they have make-up artists on staff.

Then she was seen wearing Hollister, over and over again. Now she has moved on and we see her wearing Guess, over and over again. If she had her own money to buy her clothes, don't you think that the Brea Mall sells more brand names than just Hollister and Guess?

And where is the new van to chauffer the kids around in?

Look at the salaries that Eyeworks is willing to pay her for 3 years of filming. This is not on the Jon and Kate level and besides that, there were no other takers vying for her story. This amount of money is going to go quicker than s**t. She will be lucky if it lasts the 3 years.

And the Fast Food runs, buying 6 Happy Meals is a lot cheaper that buying the ground beef, pickles, ketchup, mustard, lettuce, tomatoes, hamburger rolls and frozen french fries. What does a cheeseburger cost? A buck. Besides that, I don't think she has ever been taught to cook. You need to know the basics of cooking to know how to shop for cheap nutritious meals and then cook them. Horrors, CCPS should take her kids from her because she does not know how to cook! Let's be reasonable.

And all the toys, I have said it before, Target and Toys R Us compensated her for her subliminal advertising. Who knows, even McDonald's, the philanthropists, may have given her enough coupons to feed the children for life. That's what their donaton boxes are for. And 'they' get to choose who receives that money.

Let's think before we accuse. You have not been privy to her finances, so how can you judge. And like I have repeated, unless she makes over $136,000.00 per year, she qualifies as 'low income'.

And we keep hollering, she should go to work, 8 to 5 job only....but if she does that, she is considered the 'working poor' and is entiltled to even more Welfare Programs.

You, just like myself, have to bite the bullet and realize that our taxes pay for the young and the old in this country. We are a 'Welfare State'. Now President Obama wants the top wage earners in this country to pay for Health Care Reform. All of you middle class wage earners will then be eligible for a 'Welfare Program'. Are you going to turn it down? I don't think so. And I still don't understand why you are not outraged by us 'the baby boomers' who are using up all 'your' Social Security money. In the next 15 years, there will be nothing left for you. Now, that is scary and depressing.

Anyone see what the Admin of the NS site (Ryan) had to say about this site? PLEASE NOTE - Ryan made this disclosure BEFORE my 2:33p.m. post above:

I just came from reading a bunch of comments on the other site. Let me tell you that those people are extremely delusional, to the point that it makes me afraid that they are psycho enough to try and hurt someone over something posted on the Internet.

Delusional? WHO? NAME ONE! OF COURSE, you will name me but who else? What people? Psycho enough to hurt someone? Really? DO YOU READ YOUR OWN BOARD?????

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE DIRECT ME PLEASE TO
Where the Admin of the NS site backed Valkyre up about the evil comment made about RR? I can't seem to find anything from the Admin regarding it. AFTER ALL, this Ryan who says we over here are delusional is the owner of the board that spawned that person who made that evil post.

You shouldn't call another site's posters delusional and accuse them of the type to commit crimes while at the same time you encourage such behavior on YOUR site.

Ryan man if you are lucky, maybe Eyeworks will contact you and you will get some of that money you counted on when plucking up the NS site. [And it's not $5 a day people. One of his other "no active" sites MAY make $5 a day but not the NS site. LOL]

I'm done. However, will be happy to respond whenever asked in whatever way. Now, I'm off to Savannah. LOL

The Channel 4 website has a place for comments about Nadya's documentary. Here are the links if interested. It appears there are two places you can make comments.

1. hhttp://www.channel4.com/programmes/octomum/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1

2. hhttp://www.channel4.com/programmes/octomum/articles/channel-4-commissions-octomum-documentary

Hi Octorazzi, I hope you are enjoying your weekend.

[Whoever was the first to put the h in front of http to make the link non-active. Nice! Saves me time and makes the link clean.]

ADMIN NOTE: Read what the LINK says and then read my POSTING previous to this my posting JULY 23rd on the 1 HR SPECIAL! You see, everything I said there is now here with first comment on July 24th... Octorazzi DID have a credible source whispering in that dark La Habra alley the other day! (Recap it here:
http://insidesocal.com/octorazzi/2009/07/nadya-suleman-ohe-hour-special-details-right-here-right-now.html)

PS, please, now you are sounding paraniod. Remember, I was involved in the postings yesterday, too. And if you read their posts, my name comes up over and over again. But as I have said, I did nothing wrong, so I am not intimidated by them. If you did nothing wrong, then you can forget it too. I'm just thankful that I have been able to post thoughtful and intelligent debates along side the Octomom Supporters and the h8ters today. The posters that are left should commend themselves. Give yourseves an applause. This is the first time in a long time that this forum has been civil and we did not have to stoop to a level beneath us. What a joy. From now on, let's make a pact that we will be our own moderators and not allow this forum fall back in disarray. It's a great place to get the lastest and greatest thanks to that news man extraordinaire, Octorazzi.

Octorazzi, you run a good ship here. TYVM

PS, Fifteen years ago, I would take the MetroLink into Orange County. I would purchase my monthly pass and each morning before I left for work, I would check to make sure I had everything, keys, MetroLink pass, cigarettes, lunch, etc.

And each morning the Conductor would start at the beginning of the train to check passes. He never had the time to get to the end of the train by the Orange stop and the people who did not buy tickets knew where to sit, not to get caught. But there would be days that he would reverse his order and bingo!

The amount of anger that these people would display was unbelievable. I would feel embarrassed for them. I never did get it. Why would you get so angry for getting caught? It was their fault. They did not buy a ticket.

That’s what you are seeing. They can not see that they were the cause of their own demise and they are lashing out at everyone except themselves.

Like you said, do they not read their own posts? Amazing!!!! TYVM

*Standing ovation for Duggie, PS and everyone*

To clarify, I am actually standing up and clapping my hands in a rapid motion, whilst yelling "Yaaahhh!" and whistling. I'm not doing an imaginary, virtual, online applause. My family has joined me...Finally! A breakthrough!

Btw, Duggie, you have alot of courage. Hubby told me the info of the Admin of the NS board sometime ago, but we wouldn't have divulged it.

I always felt the NS board was a bit unethical, but like I said before, I respected their shrewd competitiveness.

We decided long ago to boycott any of the companies that advertise on their site and others we know have done the same. This was easy to do, cuz most of those products we don't even use. Except LL Bean. I love LL Bean! When I saw the LL Bean banner on the NS site, I was very disappointed. But for the sake of principle, I stopped shopping LL Bean.

I just figured, why would posters on the NS site want to boycott any companies that might contribute to the Suleman family, based on the premise that the babies are being used to make money? Aren't the companies advertising on the NS site also using the babies to make money? Everytime someone clicks on those ads, and maybe even purchases something, it is because they advertised on a site that wouldn't even exist if it weren't for the existence of those precious little children. And the kids won't see a dime of that revenue, oh no!

At least Ryan the Admin has admitted to making money off of this. I'll commend him for that. He thinks that by saying it isn't much cash, it doesn't matter. The dollar amount isn't the problem! He thinks that by saying he had good intentions, everything is okay. Mere excuses. Perhaps he should make a fifteen percent donation into those Coogan accounts!

Thank you SharonD, I have to admit, I read your post where you admitted to using these sites for your thesis on cyber bullying. It was there for a short while and then before the night was through, it was deleted.

But I have to admit. I love to write (as you can see and talk too), but something was just eating at me. I couldn't post over here because I would be attacked and if I posted my thougts on the NS site, I would be attacked there too. The last couple of days have proved that. And I just could not stand Simonae. I am ashamed at how much I hated him/her. I usually don't let people make me 'that' angry.

But your words lit a light bulb in my head and I started my quest. And boy am I glad. This site is a pleasure again and I really don't care if a person agrees with me or not. I really have no right to tell you that you are doing it wrong. I can advise you, but you have make your own mistakes. It's called 'free will'. TYVM

"""Octorazzi DID have a credible source whispering in that dark La Habra alley the other day!"""

You have great sources Octorazzi. No doubt about that.

Please do not think that that websites such as NS are developed out of the goodness of their hearts. Web Masters make a pretty penny whether they work for a company, work free lance (contract) or own their sites themselves. Don't let him fool you, this is big business. He is making money off his profession. And if he is not the Web Master, than he paid someone else to set it up. As far as Octorazzi's site, it is sponsored by the newspaper.

Anyway, websites are the latest and greatest in computing and as long as I have been in this business, this means big bucks. TYVM

Of course he can't admit how much he makes. He pays Gigi and Val nothing to monitor his site.

I read all the above comments with interest and find myself in agreement with most of them. It truly is refreshing to read and post without fear of attack, although so far a certain person from the "other" side still loves to attack me and I admit I returned the favor. Sometimes emotions overcome common sense and even ethics.

I also was thinking that Nadya probably couldn't find a better housing solution at the time. I hope she is able to fairly soon because that house will be literally "crawling" with children in a very short period of time. As for the chaos that will ensue, that would happen in any house with that many young children. I used to watch Jon & Kate because I have always been fascinated with multiples and I found the constant bickering and screaming almost unbearable even for the short period of the show. I can't imagine having to live with it. Nadya will have to live with about double the noise level with her 14; Just another thought on that, I don't think Nadya's children are any worse behaved than the Gosselin kids. Even the Dugger kids get carried away and I notice Michelle has a hard time controlling all those little boys when the older girls are busy elsewhere. They too needed a larger house and spent several years building it. Nadya doesn't have the ability, the manpower, or the time to do that. We built ourselves a 5000 sq ft house and spent approximately 5 years in the process!

If Nadya is paying the Nannie's herself, it could her nearly $640/day at about minimum wage or $20,000 per month just for the help. This would be for 4 Nannies X 16 waking hours and 2 Nannies X 8 sleeping hours. This really isn't an unreasonable amount of help for 14 young children, eight of them infants, but what an incredible expense. That number could possibly be reduced some time in the future, but not until probably at least the twins are in school and the tups are three or so. Anybody who thinks Nadya so go to work at a low paying job to help support her children is just being vindictive! She could use the time and the help to finish her education and I suspect she would be marketable just because she is so famous and people of all kinds want to know her. She still would not be able to support the kids without accepting assistance unless she continues to "sell" videos, interviews, pictures, and documentaries so I for one, hope she continues to have the opportunity at least while the children are young.