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Mary Wilson: In-depth about Dreamgirls and Diana Ross...

awilson.bmpI've never met Andy Cohen, the senior vice president of production and programming at Bravo, but I sure love his blog which is on Bravo's Outzone TV page. Andy is a huge fan of "Dreamgirls" and of the Supremes, whose story inspired the movie. He posted one of the most in-depth interviews I have yet to see with former Supreme Mary Wilson and I am not only providing the link (above) but some excerpts of what I found to be most compelling:

ANDY: BEYONCE SAYS SHE STUDIED THE SUPREMES AND SPECIFICALLY DIANA ROSS.. DID YOU SEE DIANA IN DEENA?
MARY:She didn't... I don't know if it was directorial decision or an actresses decision or what but in the original play it was that way as well. That character was not a Diana Ross character per se in total - only in the facade. It was not really the inside of the person. It didn't go there. That would've changed the script if she was playing Diana. As an actress she could've made different choices to be more knowledgeable but that would've been TOO Diana Ross. This way they have an out - it's loosely based. Diana is not that character in all respects. And I thought that was fine. Unles they were going to say outright it was about us. They have not said this is our story. The Jennifer Holiday character IS Florence [Ballard]. Most people don't know that but that is Florence. That's what happened basically along with a lot of other things, I don't think the mass public really has a clue about that part.

asupreme1.jpgANDY: THERE IS A LOT OF SPECULATION ABOUT WHETHER DIANA ROSS IS GOING TO EMBRACE THIS FILM IN THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE..... ANY THOUGHTS?
MARY: I've always wanted our story to be told so I embrace the play because sitting there watching the play in the 80s... people ask when I knew the Supremes had made it - and seeing the play was one of those moments. That was one of the moments when I saw that our career, when I saw those three girls from the Brewster projects had dared to dream had made them come true. That was one of those moments that I knew we had truly impressed the world. Whether they say it's our story or inspired by or what, that was the moment I embraced it because it showed me we had touched the world with our being, with our songs, with our look - I mean look they're copying our images, it's not us but it's our image! You can't say that for the Ronettes! Of course I embraced it. We made history.

ANDY: SO THEN WHY WOULDN'T DIANA EMBRACE IT?
MARY: Because she also made history as Diana Ross, so obviously for her that's what she wants to embrace. And that's her right. That's her right. For me I didn't go on to become a major star. I went on to become a major great human being, but the world doesn't want to read about that in rag magazines! (Laughs) But I am a great human being! I am what my mother wanted me to be and she was very proud of me. My intentions are good and I want to do great and do the right thing and that's the most you can want in life. I've said before that If I had to die, I would want to come back as Mary Wilson. I like me that much. I remember a friend of mine said that a big executive told him, 'that Mary Wilson thinks she's a such a star.' Well, right! I've always thought I was a star - when I was in kindergarten I was a star! I think more people should feel like that. People should feel good about yourself, it doesn't mean you're better than anyone else..

abeyonce2.jpgWorking for the TV show "Extra," Wilson conducted s television interview with Beyance Knowles and Jennifer Hudson at the "Dreamgirls" premiere in L.A. last week. Wilson asked Hudson about Jennifer Holliday, who originated Hudson's role on Broadway and who has felt snubbed by the moviemakers and the studio:

ANDY: DID [HUDSON] GIVE [HOLLIDAY] THE CREDIT?
MARY: Yes she did. People have got to be honest and have enough integrity in themselves to speak out, and Jennifer has got to come out and talk about how wonderful it was to be a part of it. No one's gonna come out and beg you to do something if they can make money without you. I learned that. So you have got to stand up on your own and take your own credit. This young girl does not know probably how to embrace Jennifer Holiday, which would be a wonderful thing for her because she (Hudson) has the pipes to do this part and can also give credit to Holiday for creating the part... It's like having Aretha Franklin and Gladys Knight meet, you know, they're both great singers and they can meet together and be friends. This spearation thing, this competion - I don't like it, I hate it. People of our race especially. We've got to embrace each other. We've all done great things and the next generation is gonna carry on and do better but no one should forget what was done before them to pave the way. We walk on their shoulders. I hope that my asking the question helped things along. I want people to know that Jennifer Hudson does respect Jennifer Holiday.

album.jpgANDY: THIS IS GOING TO OPEN UP ANOTHER ROUND OF PEOPLE WANTING YOU, DIANA, AND CINDY [BIRDSONG - FLO BALLARD'S REPLACEMENT] TO GET BACK TOGETHER. IS THERE A SNOWBALL'S CHANCE IN HELL?
MARY: If Diana decides she wants to do it, it'll happen. You need her to want it to happen and she may not want it to happen and that's her right. If she does I will be right there waiting. But only when she wants to and comes to me and says she wants to. People keep asking me and I keep saying "ask diana, stop asking me" Are you afraid to ask her? Did she scare you all that much? she's not that tough! (laughs)

ANDY: ARE YOU TWO IN TOUCH?
MARY: On occasions. Rare occasions.

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