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On deadline for the work product people actually pay for, but wanted to take one second to post Wayne's response to the Chamber release re: Measure D:

Citizens for Responsible Government Wayne Lusvardi, Chair

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 18, 2008
STATEMENT ON PASADENA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SUPPORT FOR MEASURE D - PASADENA'S TELEPHONE AND INTERNET TAX
PASADENA, CA - On the eve of an economic recession, the Chamber Board is endorsing a poorly written telephone and Internet tax that never expires and uses one of the highest tax rates in California.

Wayne Lusvardi, Chair of Citizens for Responsible Government said, "It shouldn't surprise voters that under former Pasadena City Councilmember Paul Little, the Chamber is suddenly more concerned with increasing the tax revenues of the City of Pasadena than it is in protecting the revenues of Pasadena's small business community. Voters should also be aware that the Board of the Chamber contains numerous individuals who do not live in the City of Pasadena and other individuals who have siginificant economic ties to City government."

The City of Pasadena lawyers who drafted Measure D have already admitted in writing that although the Council has exempted "initial access" to the Internet, Measure D continues to authorize a tax on Internet usage in the same way that it taxes telephone usage. It is an indisputable fact that Measure D taxes Internet use as neither the City nor the Superior Court contested CRG's ballot Rebuttal statement stating such.

Finally, the City has annual budget surpluses far in excess of the amounts it would receive under Measure D. Therefore, Pasadena does not need Measure D to maintain existing service levels. In addition, Measure D contains no guarantees that any specific amounts would be spent for police, fire, street repair, parks or libraries and the City.

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Here is what the City's own lawyers (who wrote Measure D) have written about Measure D. "It does not include initial access to the Internet, only the subsequent use of that technology for voice or data transmission services - just as it does not tax the purchase of telephones, but does tax the use of telephones."--------- I read that written statement by the City's lawyers to Paul Little and the Chamber Board. The fact that Paul Little would subsequently claim here in this press release that Measure D is not a tax on Internet use when the City's own lawyers have admitted that it is tells you all you need to know about Paul Little and the Chamber's credibility.
anonymous said:
Interesting the opponents of Measure D can't get any support for their position. It's really no surprise, since their so convinced of their own rightness they completely dismiss any other view as somehow influenced by the devil, or in this case, a former city councilman. The Chamber announcement actually presents some real arguments in favor of Measure D, while Lusvardi and Truitt are pretty empty in their rebuttal. The biggest hole in the Lusvardi/Truitt argument is the one about internet taxation. Measure D can't be about that because the federal government won't allow it. Sorry guys, your not making a very good case against Measure D beyond the "vote against the tax" one. Anonymous because I don't want Lusvardi and Truitt calling me evil, either.
Anonymous said:
The City's attorney who authored Measure D has stated that Measure D authorizes an Internet tax without a vote of the people as soon as the federal moratorium is lifted or expires. (Measure D section 4.56.230). The Chamber announcement simply parrots Yes on Measure D campaign material and it includes assertions the City itself does not make.
Anonymous said:
The City's public employee unions support it. The PUSD supports it...and now the Chamber led by a former City Councilmember supports it. People who are tools of City government support it. Big deal.
anonymous said:
Measure D and CRG YAWN! YAWN! Nobody cares people.
Anonymous said:
The problem is most people don't understand the implications of D, if they did they surely would be against it. We need to get the word out, maybe a parade might be a good way to do that.
Anonymous said:
Thank goodness we have people like Martin and Wayne to tell us that we're stupid if we don't oppose D. News flash - maybe they do understand and disagree with you. Arrogant jerk.
Anonymous said:
They haven't called anyone names that I have ever seen in their material. Unlike you. That's the Pasadena way alright. Character assassination for anyone who dares to say no to the self-appointed elites who smash down all opposition, control every election with money and think they own Pasadena.
Anonymous said:
A large portion of my paycheck never reaches me because of taxes. I write large checks to the county for property tax twice a year. This includes amounts for the school district bonds that I feel were probably not handled correctly but that is another story. I pay tax everytime I shop. Tell me, without calling me names, why I should vote to tax myself more?
Anonymous said:
Character assassination? Your website is full of character assassination...you call the framers and supporters of Measure D "dishonest", you question their integrity by implying there is plenty of money and what they really want to do is pad their wallets and listen in on any of your phone calls like some sort of "Big Brother" - you even insult their writing ability saying it is poorly written telephone and internet tax. Name five people - other than Martin and Wayne - that have publicly endorsed the No on D campaign, any local groups siding with you, supporting your statements? Pasadena Republicans? Libertarians? Some sort of Jarvis Tax Group? Where is your support, where is the objective data that shows anything you are saying is true? I mean - your slant on facts is always entertaining, but what do you have? The No on D campaign says it is "an indisputable fact that Measure D taxes Internet use" - where is the proof? Is there any supporting data for these sorts of statements other than their conspiracy theory fears?
Anonymous said:
Your reading comprehension skills need work. The lawyers who authored Measure D state that Measure D is designed to tax Internet use. They also admitted to the Pasadena Star-News that Measure D was also designed to tax Internet access. The City Council, realizing the cat was out of the bag, acted to exempt Internet access only. Measure D still taxes Internet use. You will never hear the City say otherwise because they know its true. If it isn't poorly written then why did they City Council have to clarify their legislative intent not to tax Internet access. The objective facts are at www.crgovernment.net including supporting documents. Documents that include Bogaard's letter to Senator Barbara Boxer in Septembet opposing a permanent moratorium on internet taxes and defending the taxation of Internet access.
Anonymous said:
Measure D is dishonest. It is a dishonest attempt by City of Pasadena staff to insert langauge into the UUT ordinance that would allow taxation of the Internet...something Cynthia Kurtz had beeen advocating since 1998. Staff lied to the Council telling them it wasn't an Internet tax. Council ignored CRG's warnings that it was and placed it on the ballot. Then the lawyers who wrote Measure D suddenly disclosed that it was indeed designed to be an Internet tax. The lawyers who wrote Measure D have written the same type of ordinance for cities all over California. In city after city, like El Monte, Los Angeles, Ventura and Sierra Madire, they ordinances prepared by these same lawyers (Colantuono & Levin) contain the same biolerplate language exempting "digital downloads". That langauage was removed from Measure D before it was placed on the ballot. Since it is standard langauage that always appears the ommission is intentional and the order to remove it could only have come from City staff. Measure D is a dishonest attempt to "modernize" the City of Pasadena's telephone tax ordinance while at the same time sneaking in language allowing the City of Pasadena to tax Internet usage.
Anonymous said:
Video of Sandra Levin, partner in Colantuono & Levin and author of Pasadena's Measure D, explaining to the Sierra Madre City Council that the language in Sierra Madre's proposed telephone tax ordinance that prevents taxation of "digital downloads" isn't in Pasadena's Measure D. Pasadena's Measure D covers all transmissions of "data" and the Pasadena City Council refused to include an exemption for "digital downloads"...Measure D is an Internet tax! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrJXh5GEEUY
Anonymous said:
When you say it like that - you win, you're right. Now will you stop?
David said:
I always thought that the Pasadena Chamber of Commerce was an organization that supported local business, was all about local business and would be guided by local business. What's this about the Chamber having board members who either don't have a business or live in Pasadena? Who are these board members and what importance do they have that requires them to be on the board? BTW, if the Pasadena Chamber of Commerce isn't a PAC as it was 10-12 years ago why are they getting politically involved now? Was the vote to support Measure D taken to the entire board and to the membership? I'd like to know that too. Back to the board issue, I find it absolutely absurd that a local chamber of commerce would have anyone on its board who both didn't live and operate a business in Pasadena. Absolutely ridiculous. What does this individual(s) bring to the table that can't be found in a city as fertile as Pasadena. This doesn't make sense or seem ethically right. Did someone whisper "KICKBACKS"?
Kevin said:
David you mistake Martin Truitt and Wayne Lusvardi for people who actually have facts to back up their character assassination and smears. Big mistake to assume win-at-all-cost campaigners like that would actually rely on the truth. Pasadena Chamber Board members are people who do business in Pasadena. Kevin (a Chamber member)
Anonymous said:
get that facts at www.crgovernment.net
Anonymous said:
IF "elites who smash down all opposition, control every election with money" THEN "they own Pasadena"
Anonymous said:
the fact is the Chamber board is made up of a bunch of cronies a lot of whom do not live in Pasadena. Some of them own businesses outside Pasadena and use their chamber contacts to compete against local Pasadena businesses. These people could care less about Pasadena.
Anonymous said:
This just in: the Pasadena Family Values Coalition has just come out against Measure D.
Mark said:
I recognize the names of most of the Pasadena Chamber of Commerce executive board members except for one. Who is Tom Dreher? Does he live in Pasadena or own a business that is headquartered in Pasadena? Thanks in advance for the update.
Anonymous said:
I think that Tom Dreher is a realtor at Dickson Podley.
Anonymous said:
I love Truitt trying to make people believe www.crgovernment.net is honest and truthful. Their money corrupts as much as anyone else's. Anonymoose
Anonymous said:
I love this person who wants a telephone and Internet tax of 8.28% saying www.crgovernment.net is dishonest and untruthful over and over again...that's a logical fallacy called "proof by assertion" Visit www.crgovernment.net for all the facts the City of Pasadena doesn't want you to see.
Kevin said:
Which politician speaks the truth? The "facts" the city doesn't want anybody to see are available to Wayne Lusvardi and Martin Truitt? Or are those the only "facts" they want you to consider? Come on people! It's all politics. Don't believe anybody and make up your own mind! Kevin
Kevin said:
How about this? Do you like Pasadena? Like your neighborhood? Like shopping here? Like working here? Want things to stay the way they are? What's paying for all that, do you think? 8.28% on top of my internet costs? Hmmm. That's like $3.50 a month. If I have to pay 8.28% tax on what I buy from Ebay or download from iTunes, is that going to make me not buy something? Even if it's 8.28%? Hardly. Kevin
Mark said:
I'm still confused. Who the hell is Tom Dreher and what relevance does he have to Measure D?
Anonymous said:
Tom Dreher is the man behind the curtain who controls everything in Pasadena. Who the f*ck knows and who the f*ck cares?

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