Colorado Boulevard trees may yet be saved

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Several weeks after the City Council approved the removal of dozens of trees there are indications that they may now switch course. The item is again up for discussion at next Monday's council meeting, and email between the public and council members (passed on to the Star News) suggests that some council members may be rethinking their votes.

Sid Tyler, the lone hold out at the last vote, has been the biggest advocate of not removing the trees. We've also been getting a lot of emails from people concerned about the removal of the trees.

I would think that some sort of compromise may be possible. The concerns seem to be 1) palm trees are a terrible idea because they don't offer any shade to Colorado 2) the ficus trees are beautiful and people don't want to see them go and 3) gingko trees, slated to replace the ficus, are not big enough and don't grow fast enough to offer a lot of shade.

I would imagine that the business people who are concerned about #2 because the ficus trees roots are damaging sidewalks and sewer lines, could easily give up the other two options in a compromise if a suitable substitute tree could be found. One that would provide a lot of shade, and not have such aggressive roots. Some people will not be happy at first if any tree removal at all happens, but if a good substitute is found, the street would look good again in a few years.

We'll have a story this week, and I am going to try to get a native tree specialist on the line for possible suggestions about the best tree to plant, or maybe for a way to control the ficus trees more effectively.

9 Comments

Tree lover said:
The street will look good again in a few years? It'll take more than 10 years for the puny trees the city plants to get anywhere near the size of the ficus trees, longer if the current drought continues. Let's not cut down what we already have, or at least keep the best of them.
healthy tree lover said:
I do like ginkho and palm trees, but I agree with Tree lover that we should keep those thriving ficus and carrot trees that are not causing damage to people's plumbing. To avoid changing our street trees all at once, which would mean waiting through some treeless years while the ginkhos and palms to grow up, if those are the species we decide on, can we put in these newer species when the ficus and carrot trees die, get blown over, get sick? It would be a more natural way to replace the trees, and the city workers would have more consistent work during these economically depressed times.
pay attention said:
This tree removal is a further phase of a program that was approved more that 7 years ago and worked out with Alice Frost Thomas and Pasadena Beautiful and the Urban Forestry Advisory Committee and meeting after meeting to thoughtfully address a problem and a need. Where have you folks been?
pasadena walker said:
I would be very sad if they cut down the ficuses because I walk all over Pasadena and aim for the streets with shade. Not having as many of those shady streets would probably tempt me to drive more often.
Tree lover said:
In reply to Pay Attention, I read the Pasadena Star-News every day and always pay attention to any news items about environmental issues, but I really did miss this. Of course, I've only lived in Pasadena for 10 years - it never occurred to me that decisions made in the mid 1990s would be implemented in 2009. In those distant days, climate change and sustainabiity were not words that tripped off everyone's tongue, but we are so much wiser now. Even LA city doesn't want any more palms planted as street trees because they don't give any shade. Since when has Pasadena been less green than LA? The response to this issue from some people who were part of the original decision is "we put in so much work to plan this all those years ago, we're too tired to rethink it all now." I appreciate how sad it must feel to have wasted all that effort, but it's not a good reason for sticking to a decision made so long ago.
Pay attention said:
The dismissive response to and lack of curiosity about the 10 year planning process that replacing these trees represents is sad. Emotional responses are fine at the outset, but unless they are followed up with critical thinking, technical analysis, dialog and a sound planning process, then it is all for nothing. Perhaps you are too tired to have a look at all of it and to try to understand it and to build upon it. It is a lot easier to just throw stones, I guess.
New Pasadenian said:
Without the older-growth trees lining Colorado (I'm specifically thinking of the ones in front of Vroman's), I personally believe that street would look like a strip mall in Hobunk, Middle of Nowhere. Since I've only been here for a couple of months, I can't say the trees hold a special place in my heart, but they certainly influenced my decision to move here. If the street had been replanted with puny ginkos, I don't think I would have felt the same draw to the city. I understand there have been arguments made by businesses regarding excessive shade and sign blockage. This is a very valid point. However, I counter with the argument that with smaller trees, fewer passers-by will go shopping on the barren sidewalks and instead will order their books and merchandise from online retailers from the comfort of their air-conditioned homes. Imagine what business will be like when no one walks by your store! Is there a petition or something that we can sign to save the trees?
Sharkey said:
Alice Frost Kennedy! I've lived here 13 years and I get the names right. Jeez! Mike
jOHN said:
SHAME ON PASADENA CUTTING ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL TREE LANE IN THE CITIES CHARACTER OF THE OLD AND NEW. THESE TREES ARE OUR LIFE WHEN WILL MAN UNDERSTAND IT. IT'S THE CHARM OF A BEAUTIFUL CITY PLEASE DON'T CUT THESE LIVING TREES. wITH ALL THE INTELLIGENCE AND INSTITUTION AROUND THE CITY ISN'T THERE ANYONE WHO CAN COME UP WITH SOME MANNER TO SAVE THE TREE AND KEEP THE SIDEWALK. SIDEWALK DO CONTRIBUTE A GREATE DEAL TO OUR GLOBAL WARMING ALSO.......

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