LA SALLE STILL NOT RANKED

The Camino Real league is headed for a real show down this week end. The LS Lancers head down to San Pedro to face Mary Star. It has never been and will never be a friendly place to play: Daniel's Field. The Verb Eagles ended up destroying Mary Star 42-14, but it took them 3 quarters before they pushed ahead and then just turned on the burners. The off springs of dock workers and fishermen always tough gave them a fight to the end, but the speed of Verb finally over took them.
The game will be different with La Salle, where the play is Power instead of Speed. The Lancers will have to muster around their strong line play on both sides of the ball and just POUND THE ROCK!

We all do. I spent many an afternoon and Sunday morning delivering it off my bicycle. I grew to love the paper.

Really JM, that is going back. The Herald Examiner, L.A.'s best sports section during its heyday. I still miss it.

Fred...I covered sports with your dad at the Heral Examiner in the late 70's...how far back do you wanna go???

LancerDouble and JM, I love it when you guys start throwing out years and names. I've only been covering teams in the Star-News area since 2002, and our archives at the paper don't help much.
I grew up in the East San Gabriel Valley, Edgewood High School, anyone remember that one. So, all of your little history lessons help.

it's true that anything can happen...last time La Salle lost to Maranatha Surfy Taylor was the running back, September of 94.

La Salle Is A St Francis wanna be and will be a lower tier power in the forseeable future. Get used to it.
And when is the last time Temple City was the "Mighty Rams," 1974?

I personnally would like to see Maranatha play La salle again. The games were always full of rivalry. That is what makes all this more fun. Let's hope it happens. I agree anything can happen. Who would have thought LS over TC, except of course LS.
The La Salle preseason was a very aggressive schedule and has them tuned up for league opposition and the play offs. The Team has found a purpose and is playing thus. Give props to Gallagher, but also to Difiori and Peterson in keeping the ship afloat. and upright.

Finchamp you will have to get a rain check for the bandwagon ride, LS has a well deserved bye this week. Next week they meet Mary Star in the dennisons of Daniel Murphy Field in San Pedro, never a friendly venue to play!

who cares?? Passing leaugue is an anomally that happens every summer, where as you are anomally that appears on this blog, your name says it all! Just so you know La Salle has played LC and Lavelle the last 2 years at home and away and beat them both times! They ran away from playing La Salle HS this year because they were embarrased by the ass whipping they gave them. If that is callin out, then so be it. As far as PHS is concerned be lucky you do not play La Salle for reals, this team can play with any one in this league. It is not a complex team just sort of SMASH MOUTH football. It took a bit to gain it's identity, but it is now playing at the level a lot of people expected. Change your name to WHO KNOWS, it fits better.

I'm almost on the La Salle bandwagon but reserve my commitment until after this weekend.

we all = everyone in the SGV, and theres nothing mighty about the rams, put 8 in the box, shut down broadnax and u win

who is "we all" - how I hope next year's schedule is different...I mean who thought that La Salle would topple the mighty Rams?

comon now we all know maranatha would get destroyed by La Salle if they played them. La Canada has lost twice to La Salle in the two years they have played them, once at home and once away. PHS vs La Salle would be a game, but Maranatha???? Who have they played??? other than a respectable rio hondo prep, who look like they may go far in the playoffs, maranatha has played a weak schedule. trust me passing league is all maranatha would want or could handle against La Salle.

Passing League?!?! Did you really just use a passing league reference to solidify your team? If that was true then Maranatha smashed you this year! La Salle--you win a couple of games and now start calling out Lavelle Peterson and the whole LaCanada team? You think you can whoop on PHS? wow--you sure are ignorant!

we will never know the outcome of a La Salle v Maranatha game until one is scheduled - stranger things than an upset have happened

We played Pasadena in Passing League this year. They have some good athletes: a good core of receivers and QB and on D their Mike Line Backer is solid. However our TE had their way with them and in the end they put on a lot of cheap shots. I am sure that a rematch wih pads would be fun to see. As far as Maranatha is concerned, don't even trip! La Salle would send them home packing just like in the past. There must be a reason why La Canada, even with Lavelle has refused to play La Salle, just ask TC!

Anonymous--
That would be quite a schedule for Maranatha or any small school. Assuming the kids survived that type of preseason it might put the guys bruised and battered going into league. Drop LaSalle and Improve your chances.

How about this for Maranatha's pre-season next year:
Flintridge Prep
Blair
Pasadena Poly
La Salle
Rio Hondo Prep
Would that give them enough credibility and clout in the community? It appeases those who want "up" games, seeing as though every single game is 1 to 2 divisions above theirs. And yet, allows Maranatha a good plumb line to see just how good they are.

I would be pretty much in line with Finchamp - although I would love to see Maranatha play La Salle or PHS then re-evaluate.

there u go finchamp exactly right

My Pasadena school rankings:
1. Muir
2. La Salle
3. PHS
4. Poly
5. Maranatha
6. Blair
7. Marshall

3-5 is still 3-5, even if the the three wins were consecutive.
La Salle is probably a top ten team....in Pasadena.
How about this list of Pasadena School Rankings?
1. Muir
2. Poly
3. Blair
4. PHS
5. La Salle

Happy Now? La Salle is in a top 10?

There is significant family overlap with Duarte, but they are far from our mirror image.

ex-falcon
I really dont believe anyony would question Duarte's talent because they have it just like monrovia does, their basically next door to each other. and they all played for the hawks when they were younger. it has to do with the coaching between the two schools. To me the coaching at duarte is inconsistant. Yeah last year the score was 16-7 i couldn't believe it myself. but monrovia had a very bad offensive coordinator. this year we went back old school with some coaches that used to coach at the varsity level but were taking over the JV team. i think you can tell the difference from this year and lasts with the final score. but the schedule of duarte's is somewhat weak. you lost to monrovia and glendora by alot. and then whatever other team you played you won but were they that good of teams as the ones i just mentioned. Dont count out TC just yet in a way im looking for the upset by LC but then i want TC to be undefeated when they come to the cats house next friday. basically it will be a close game. i picked TC to win out but, i tell you im not confident with the pick the way peterson played last week and destroyed what was left of a descent south pas defense so we'll see what happens

this year the rhl is the class of the division hands down. there is no more del rey or the league that has santa maria or the lompoc schools to stand in the way of the rio. this year the rio will win all three first round games and put two teams in the semis and at least one team (monrovia) in the final.and as far as who duarte plays this is my point you cant play really good teams and get blown out then play bad teams and blow them out. it absolutly made a difference that monrovia drop bassett and charter oak.instead beating a bad team by a lot and losing to a good team by a lot they played a more balanced schedule and were able to improve week to week where now their hitting their stride and rolling people and im sure monrovia can play with charter oak but by picking up arcadia and montclair they played two games that were competitive and i believe that made them better. you cant get whooped by good teams and say we play good teams. duarte lacks this balance to there schedule which is the reason that they will/have struggled in the playoffs versus good teams. anyways this what i think you dont like/agree with it, i dont care, im done with this topic.

true true ganesha is the wrost team ever, but every year we put quailty teams on the schedule, We play teams like glendora and monrovia. back when i played we play compton, dorey, North torrence no cake walk buddy,you can say what you wont about duarte but we have always played good teams. who knew ganesha would fold like that, most of the team your league dont go to far to schedule a game. go to the city and play a game bro, look ex-rhl player i dont have anything against your league my nephew plays on the freshman team at monrovia watch out for #2 but most year you have 1 are 2 good teams, thats it, dont play yourself.

yeah i think ganesha or anyone from the view had already scheduled someone else that week. anyways who cares about tc. this started because you were taking shots at the rhl " there not the pac 5". when was the last time a team from the view won a playoff game? as a matter of fact when was the last time duarte won a playoff game? i tell you what you better hope that after your team walks through that bunch sorry schools that you dont play rhl team in the first round whether its tc,lc, san marino, or southpas. because the last time i heard the sophs were in by the third quarter! dont try to make this some school on school thing because it aint.atheletes can only take you so far then you gotta know how to play football and playin in that league versus those schools aint gonna prepare ya. and maybe your team should schedule arroyo or rosemead since there garbage but i tell you what they aint ganesha!

All i have to say is that TC LOST TO LASALLE,and maybe besides alhambra every other team is trash, dont say these school have "strong tradition" who cares, a weak team is a weak team. i have seen duarte play i understand what they can do. after monrovia walks all over your team then you can ask them who had the better team. tc fan know the deal, stop acting like your as good as lc.

P.S your not going to stop peterson at all.

All i have to say is that TC LOST TO LASALLE,and maybe besides alhambra every other team is trash, dont say these school have "strong tradition" who cares, a weak team is a weak team. i have seen duarte play i understand what they can do. after monrovia walks all over your team then you can ask them who had the better team. tc fan know the deal, stop acting like your as good as lc.

P.S your not going to stop peterson at all.

the only person that needs to relax is you! im not the one making crazy claims about "if they wanted to they could win a championship next year" and like you said we were talking about this year anyways. look unfortunately duarte plays in a weak league and it hurts you that while they may do well in the view when it comes to actually stepping out of league and playing real competition (monrovia)they get smacked. but this year they might win a game maybe two this year in the playoffs simply because they have athletes and the division is not as strong in terms of overall depth of great teams and tc has a good schedule with programs that are usually strong and have tradition, arroyo, rosemead, alhambra, san gabriel were all playoff teams last year that are having a down year and you cant blame tc for that but the rest of the teams yeah i agree they have garbage schedules and they have already been exposed or will be exposed by the big three. by the way the monroviaduarte (since the kids are all the same) score was 16-7 last year. just hope that your team doesnt play a rhl third place team(lc or tc we'll find out friday)cause then your team wont win one in the playoffs.

My Man Ex-Falcon has a point. I sometimes wonder if the ego and the rivalry were'nt there and all of those same players were to be at the same high school at the same time, No one would be them....yes that includes Oak Christian. Santa Fe and Andres Duarte puts out some incredible athletes and that has always been the case. I would be like putting Muir and Pasadena High on the same roster. For whatever the reason I would give the Monrovia-Duarte team the edge athleticly

dont high jack my name (ex rhl player) last year monrvoia beat duarte 6-0 but that was last year, im talking about this year. montview league might be the wrost league ever but, if you say monrovia kids you have to say duarte kids. monrovia and duarte kids were the duarte hawks teams that use to beat your city teams evey year, they all knew each other, half of them live in duarte, but there parents wont them to go to monrovia, besides monrovia and lc every single team in the rhl had a weak Schedule, ask around everybody on those two teams are related,if they wanted to duarte could win a championship next year, relax ex rhl player.

compared to the montview the rhl is the pac 5. two blowout losses to the rhl in the playoffs (lc over sierra vista & tc over duarte)last year and a blowout loss to monrovia this year. oh and by the way monrovia beat duarte pretty good last year too and monrovia went 5-6.

ex-falcon
I'll give it to you. duarte would beat south pas, san marino, even blair for that case. but dont tell me that duarte would get tc. and for the record i am not a tc fan but i've played against them and being on the defensive line and those big ass lineman all the do is run block. they dont even do that much pulling of the guards not really. i honestly dont think DUARTE could take that kindof pounding for a full 4 quarters thats all im saying now duarte's team this year would probably shutr down t.c's tsai sun last year im certain. but this back broadnax is not a speed back he's a brusier whats is avg. like 20 something rushes a game i jus dont think da falcons can handle thats all. i still think duarte has got talent and speed but sometimes its not put in the right direction when it comes to coaching

ex-falcon
I'll give it to you. duarte would beat south pas, san marino, even blair for that case. but dont tell me that duarte would get tc. and for the record i am not a tc fan but i've played against them and being on the defensive line and those big ass lineman all the do is run block. they dont even do that much pulling of the guards not really. i honestly dont think DUARTE could take that kindof pounding for a full 4 quarters thats all im saying now duarte's team this year would probably shutr down t.c's tsai sun last year im certain. but this back broadnax is not a speed back he's a brusier whats is avg. like 20 something rushes a game i jus dont think da falcons can handle thats all. i still think duarte has got talent and speed but sometimes its not put in the right direction when it comes to coaching

I'd like to think Goodwell could make a mark on the NFL like Okoye did.

Okoye was Prep's version of Landon Goodwell.

Fred
Does that Azusa Pacific reference include the team that had the Nigerian Nightmare--Christian Okoye on their team?

New York

No matter what level RHP plays on they will always be the smallest of small with only 85 boys AND girls in high school.

Wasn't that long ago that I viewed LaSalle on the same level as the other small schools. What's so crazy about thinking that Poly and RHP could do the same?

BigM
You seem to know RHP football well. As Fred has said RH Prep would hold their own against many larger schools. Still it is a stretch to match them up with other ranked schools in the area. With only 24 players on your roster no one is expendable and yes a loss to little RHP could set some larger programs on their ears.

Fred

No offense taken on your take on the Kares. 17 CIF Finals appearances (mostly 8-man) including back to back appearances in 11-man after only 5 years playing at that level. The only other Southern California school to post numbers like that is Long Beach Poly.

Here's my appeal to all bloggers. God knows we love football and we love our local boys givin' it their all each week. If your team gets knocked out of the playoffs find another local team to support on their run to the Championship. Monrovia, Amat, Maranatha, South Hills, Western Christian, Covina and I'm sure many others have kids that played in RH Prep's Kare Youth League. We celebrate their successes as we hope they will ours.

Transplant - that explanation about why Rio/Poly/Maranatha, etc. have trouble scheduling better competition is partially understandable, but falls short of answering the question. Under your line of reasoning, no school would ever be able to schedule an opponent at the next level, but we know that happens every year with the Rio Hondo league teams just by way of example. The fact is that virtually all CIF playoff berths are automatically awarded based on league standings only, so qualifying for the playoffs has nothing to do with pre-league games. It is true the seeds are established based on overall results, so the very top teams wuold shy away from someone from a lower level in favor of a more impactful opponent (such as Monrovia stepping up each year to play West Covina). But what about all the others who are never at the top of their division, such as South Pas to name just one? They have been playing Hoover and Keppel for several years, lots of downside risk and essentially no upside potential. Do you know whether any of the small schools have ever attempted to schedule even second tier type teams from higher divisions? It would be interesting to see how these small school teams really stack up, but we won't know until they can play better competition.

My question still remains, who votes in the CIF rankings?

to philly b,
TC LOST TO LASALLE! There not that good . if ypu look at the game we (duarte) played against monrovia and glendora it was close at halftime, but the better team won. tc,south pas, san marino DUARTE would beat lc, and monrovia i dont think so every other team is weak dont give me that rhl crap like it the pac-5.

Fred J,

The reason RHP/Poly etc. have such a tough time playing larger competition is that the larger schools have nothing to gain. Playoff positions are based on wins and league standings so most school would not dare schedule a team that can give them no help in getting in the playoffs.
If you were to scroll down Monrovia/Temple City's schedule and see a loss to Poly or RHP that is not gonna help you get into the playoffs. CIF does not look at that as a quality opponent they look at the school size and go ohhh how did they lose that game. The CIF is clueless.
And for your information RHP has bad been trying to get into 11-man since 1995. Through that span until they did break into 11-man they were scheduling 11-man games once or twice a year and still killing teams. We drew our plays in the sand added a couple of linemen and played so good old fashioned football. So to tell me that they can't hang is silly.
It was a joke to play 8-man football, I'll be the first one to tell you. But CIF won't allow it because of the size of the school. Which makes sense because RHP does not field very strong teams most of the time in the other major sports and they definitely do not have any presence in the secondary sports. RHP is strictly a football school and always has been.
I hope that Coach Drain can get someone in the higher divisions to play him. I would pay good money to see that. But who is going to be the first one to nut up and call him on it. The Prep is going to be even better next year, watch out....

For some reason, many coaches these days need to have a cute nickname or some other BS. A lot of players are aloud to be soft. Administrators almost demand that boys not be boys. It's actually a newly recognized phenomenon. There will be more news stories (20/20, Dateline, etc.) about it.

Coaches like Stueck are a relic. They should be locked in a case that reads, "Break glass only in the event that some kid needs to beat up the school bully."

The Mid-Valley Division actually includes three 5-team leagues (Camino Real, Frontier and Olympic), one 7-team league (Montview) and one 6-team league (Rio Hondo). This set up disadvantages the RHL (only 3 out of 6 RHL teams will make the playoffs vs 3 out 5 and 4 out of 7 from the other leagues). That disadvantage is particularly acute this year since the Montview league teams are not very competitive this year (other than for Duarte).

Fred,
whats the deal with the mid valley, and what new york said? Is it true that there is an at large bid? And does South Pas have a chance with a hopeful 7-3 record?

(laughing)

Arcadia ranked #9? How bad did they lose to Burbank? And Burbank gave away the game to Muir and lost by 1?

Big M, For RHP's sake, they should be glad I'm not their coach too.

Fred - is there any chance Rio Hondo Prep, Pas Poly or Maranatha will ever schedule even a mediocre team from a higher division? Those schools do great almost every year at their own level, but we will never know how they stack up if they don't play higher caliber competition on occasion. Are there reasons why those schools don't play better teams - maybe they face the same kind of difficulties that have hampered Oaks Christian? Or, are they concerned that injuries might wipe them out prior to their league play? Or, what is it? Year after year you see RHL teams playing larger schools, but that almost never happens with the small schools. Trying to use CalPreps rankings as a basis of comparison is dubious at best given there are virtually no games played by any of the D12 or D13 schools vs anyone from a higher division (unless you place some value on this year's Blair vs Rosamond contest).

New York - the Mid-Valley Division has 16 automatic bids from 5 leagues, with no at large slots. So, yes, that means Montview will have 4 teams in the playoffs each year. CIF really needs to have at least one at-large bid for each division, but I am sure the politics on this one are quite significant.

Can't wait for the playoffs to see some of these teams crying about getting no respect. Nothing like a real match up at playoff time to separate the winners from the losers!

Fred...

For RHP's sake, I'm glad you aren't their coach.

Big M, RHP was once an eight-man dynasty, not an 11-man dynasty. They've won one Div. XIII title, which hardly makes them a dynasty as far as our argument is concerned.
And I never said RHP doesn't play good ball. But when it comes to schools the size, depth and skill of Arcadia, for example, it's unrealistic to think the Kares could defeat them. Could it ever happen. Sure, if all of a sudden they start attracting Div. I recruits like Jimmy Clausen and Marc Tyler. But for now, RHP has only five guys on their roster weighing more than 200 pounds. FIVE! Arcadia has 23 guys weighing more than 200 pounds. Now, I'm sure you're going to tell me size and weight don't matter in football. Trying selling that argument to college recruiters.

You want to talk about divisional parity? In the Western Division top 10, there are 5 teams that played in the RHL's CIF division within the past 7 years. Monrovia has been competitive with or beaten each of them.

With two Crutchfields coaching at Duarte, it is safe to refer to them as Muir-East.

New York, you are right on about that. The game you're referring to was '95 against Salesian. Our guard got dirt thrown in his face and just started running towards the sideline. Before he even gets there Stueck asked in his classic, smoke 2 packs a day rasp-"What the hell's 'matter with you?!!"

"I got dirt in my eye coach"

All Stueck did was mock him in a high pitched voice, laugh, and tell him to get back on the field and knock his you know what in the dirt. A lot of La Salle brass go mum at the mention of his name, for good reason, but I loved playing for him.

Fred...

Now you're the one showing your ignorance... have you been on the USC and SDSU practice fields? Apples and oranges...

Besides... we aren't talkin' about some scrub, lower-division school... we're talkin' about a dynasty. Because of their rep, RHP doesn't get a shot at the big boys. If you want to make comparisons to Saturdays... ask why The Big 10 schools won't play Youngstown St... or Monmouth can't get a Big East game. Just because their small, doesn't mean they don't play good ball.

And if anything is true about high school football, its that games aren't played on paper (THAT is the true irony about arguing about a poll)!

LSperson, I know, how could I not pick an 0-5 La Salle team to knock off a 4-0 Temple City team ranked No. 1 in the Mid-Valley Division. Guess that was a pretty dumb pick by me. And then what was I thinking again picking a 6-0 Cantwell Sacred Heart team coming off a big win over Bosco Tech to beat a 1-5 Lancers team that just beat the Rams without Dwight Broadnax. Another horrible judgment on my part. I'm sure everyone got that right but me.
Look, La Salle has surprised me like EVERYONE else. And after watching them win their third straight against a very good Verbum Dei side, they deserved to be ranked, even if they're 3-5.

Hey Fred, how can you say that Cantwell shouldn't be ranked ahead of La Salle? If I remember correctly you picked La Salle to lose to TC and Cantwell and you were wrong. I think La Sall should be ranked but howcome now you give them respect, when even after they beat TC you had them lose to Cantwell who is now 0-2 in the league? Come on you had to have known that at some point Bury would run like he is now, it just took the team some experience and the reality that they could play with the best for 3 quarters for them to turn around the season.

Finchamp, don't be insulted, but there is no way RH prep could stop La Canada and Peterson. He's bigger than anyone on Prep.
And Big M, do you really believe RH prep could beat Arcadia? Seriously. This isn't like comparing San Diego State to USC. This is like comparing Azusa Pacific to UCLA. San Diego State and USC are both Div. I schools, there's a huge difference.

CalPreps rankings for WSGV:

1. St. Francis - 24.8
2. Monrovia - 21.2
3. Muir - 10.2
4. Rio Hondo Prep - 8.5
5. Temple City - 8
6. Pasadena - 7.5
7. Arcadia - 6.6
8. La Canada - 4.6
9. Duarte - 3.3
10. Pasadena Poly - 2.1

As much as the "experts" poo-poo these standings, CalPreps has provided very accurate predictions based on them. Come on over to the Dark Side... and admit that your biased goggles prevent you from accepting the presence of RHP, Duarte or Pasadena Poly.

...and I don't want to hear how small they are... Fresno State was too small to beat USC in '92... Utah too small to win the '05 Fiesta Bowl... TCU too small to beat Oklahoma AND Iowa St last year.

When you are talking about one game... never under estimate the heart of a champion... regardless of how many kids are enrolled at the school... or standing on the sideline.

BTW, Duarte should be ranked too. I think they played Monrovia tougher than La Salle did.

Finchamp, the only championships I've been to since I started at the Star-News was Poly's win in 2002, Flint Prep's win over Poly in 2003, RH Prep's loss in Anza and last year's win. Oh wait, San Gabriel did give us a magical year a few years back, losing to South Hills in the Div. VII championship at Covina District Field.
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Look at all these La Salle bloggers. Where were you the first five weeks? I've always thought La Salle had a pretty good following, glad to see you joining the threads.

Fred
Anza was a cold day in.....Borrego I guess. By-the-way, other than your trip to Anza and Birmingham last year for the D-XIII championship what other Valley teams were you following in December?

OK...honestly, at the beginning of La Salle's winning streak I didn't believe they deserved to be ranked. Even after the second win, I wasn't convinced. And as much as this pains me to say because they're what...3-4? But, maybe, just maybe, throw them a bone and rank them CIF. They've been doing a great job these last couple weeks and deserve a little credit.

I don't understand how La Salle isnt at least under the others.. 3 huge victories out scoring there opponets 93-57 and averaging 30 points a game to their oppenents 19 points a game.. destroying Cantwell who is listed as other(they just lost again to another team with a losing record this time to Mary Star whose record is
3-4) and beating old #1 ranked now #3 Temple City and shuting them out the last 3 quarters.. and coming off a huge Camino Real League win over Verbum Dei.. these lancers have turned there season around.. they deserve some credit

who creates these polls!!!??? How are TC and Cantwell, who both lost to La Salle, both ranked but La Salle is not?? Verb and La Salle should both be ranked in the top 6. I wonder if La Salle will have to beat monrovia to at least get the #10 spot!!! La Salle will undoubtedly get to the playoffs and send some very hopefull teams packin, TC hopefully so they shut up about how broadnax could have drastically changed that game. if you cant change a game with a 6'2 230 pound william Do how are you guna do anything better!?

well well well. i know those la salle fans are gonna be pissed off. in a way im surprised since they knocked off verbum dei. wow i dunno know what to say if they go 5-0 4-1 in their league then they should definitely be ranked. my thing is even though monrovia blow them out how is la canada 7th. in a way i think thats a bit low especially how they bounced back and whooped south pas. ex falcon no disrespect but the duarte falcons play in a league that is even weaker than the RHL which is saying alot cuz the RHL is a weak league believe that but dont think just cuz the only loses u guys had to was monrovia and glendora grants u to be in the top ten in CIF u are very wrong thos loses weren't even close by a long shot i mean good luck to duarte, i'd like them to win league and they should with the team they have but lets see them face temple city again in the first round if yall come out on top then we'll see

Fred, the only real thing that matters is that a team wins. The La Salle Lancers will win the league that is the only thing that matters.They will go on to divison play, where they willo meet some of the competition you have ahead of them. The rest is fodder for blogs.

I'm with you ex-falcon...I like Duarte's chances and as unthinkable as it seems, I think they could easily place second or third in the RHL right now.

Is Stueck the guy who ran the direct snap offense and the offensive huddle would break and run into formation by looping around? That was so old school and fun to watch. He really revitalized La Salle football. Man, he was old school. I remember watching a La Salle game at Monrovia high school. I forgot who there were playing, maybe Mary Star? Anyway, some La Salle player came running off to the sideline. Stueck asked him what happened. Apparently somebody threw dirt in the kid's eye. Stueck just started laughing!!! His own guy got dirt thrown in his eyes and the coach was laughing. It probably brought back memories of some old school football. Stueck would certainly not be blogging, complaining about a team playing dirty like the other prep schools on here. He would just line up and go after whomever did it. Get some snot bubbles.

I checked the ranking for all 13 divisions. There are only 2 teams out of 13 with losing records Hart @ 3 - 4, a traditional power, and Western @ 3 -4.

So by the end of the season if they win out L S will be ranked. But as I've also stated ranking only help during the seeding process. If you can't be seeded in the top 4 then only the playoffs and the champion matter.

How many leagues are there in the Mid-Valley, five? Three automatic bids gets us to 15 teams. Will there be one at large bid to make 16? Don't tell me the Montview gets four bids because they have an extra team in their league...they should get one bid for the champion. South Pas fans, hold heads your heads high and give those players your support. Tell those players to keep fighting. Even if they lose to Monrovia, they can finish with a 7-3 record. That should be good enough for the At-Large if there is one.

Who votes on this anyway? Is it the coaches who barely have enough time to watch there own game film or writers or ?

Plus are there any teams in the ranking that have a losing record? I think not.

This is also an excellent motivational tool for L S, playing for respect. They lost it and now have to earn it. Respect comes grudgingly.

As I've said in prior posts 'Just Win Baby' all the way to the Mid-Valley title. Then you'll have respect.

Finchamp, I'm still telling people about that trip to Anza a couple years back when they played Hamilton for the title. What a great little footall town that was. Guess I'll just have to break out my ski's. People still ski don't they?
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Loyal tiger, don't give up on your team yet. Lets face it, the RHL is that good this year.

Im a south pas fan, and i love the school and program and thought they really had a chance this year to do some damage, but I dont understand how the tigers are still ranked tenth.

at this point i dont think they can even beat San marino.

Fred
Again you jest! Should a championship game featuring RH Prep and Big Bear occur in Big Bear, in the snow.......you'd not only cover it thoroughly, but you'd be talkin' about it for years!!!

However, as the famous Chinese Football Philosopher once said, " the journey of a thousand miles begins with ... the NEXT victory."

As a guy who played for Lew Stueck, I'm glad La Salle is not ranked...we got slapped around for reading our press anyways. Stay hungry Lancers.

where is duarte? they only lost to monrovia and glendora.