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Cal St Full Coach a little hypebole on my part about the pitch speed. He was really around 88-90mph but I wanted to make a point regarding pitch speed. It worked because it brought out a good response from you. I totally agree about kids making it to the majors, most don't and many suprise you later. You are too close with the Babe Ruth comment. Actually SR Babe Ruth and sent two pitchers and four players to the minors in three years.

Kohorst may throw the same speed as Robbie and Eddie but those guys have really nasty breaking stuff. That is why those guys are so far above the rest. Lets also watch out for Luke Collis he would seriously give them all a run for their money with his intensity and determination HE is going to be a monster on the hill this year.

There is a reason that many of the best pitchers who make it to the show were outfielders as HS players - so many pitchers blow out their arms in HS or shortly thereafter. When 19 of the 21 on UT's pitching staff has had Tommy John surgery you know there is a problem. The truth is with all the back and forth on this blog one needs to remember that the chance of any kid mentioned on this blog making it to the big leagues - I mean the majors not minors is extremely remote and I would bet that a kid not mentioned on this blog in HS in the SGV will. with due respect to superior IQ baseball guy there is no way a kid throwing 82 MPH lasted 15 years in the majors - unless he was throwing a spitter or knuckle ball. It would be like batting practice I don't care where it is placed and you can't throw straight breaking balls for 15 years. What Babe Ruth league did you coach?

La salle solid win 6-3 over paraclete w now 2-1 while they were missing have there senior due to a retreat.. they had one bench player but i must say this line up capitalized a lot more then the past 2 games

st. francis 17
western christian 0

HS Baseball Fan,
Relax dude, this is why we have the BLOG to discuss certain interesting issues and to create contradiction between valid arguments from fans, parents, players, students, coaches, and bloggers who enjoy to express their rights of opinion. So, take a minute and let the bloggers be bloggers.

DAWG

Enough from all the low IQ baseball bloggers. If you knew anything about pitching speed is only one component. I played and coached against some of the best young pitchers in the area in High School and college. The best pitcher I ever saw in high school rarely thew over 82 MPH but had terrific placement of the ball and played pro for 15 years. Lefty David Clyde ( You young kids read about him)threw consistently at 100mph in high school, went straignt to the pros and lasted about 1 1/2 years. Remember these are high school pitchers and some may or may not be successful in the future. Only time will tell because history is full of great high school players who disappeared in Boise, Helena, Selma. Enjoy the game. Quite frankly I think today's young pitchers are too monodimensional. Pitchers of yesterday were all around athletes. They played basketball, football and baseball and the cross training helped to strengthen "all" their muscles. So look at upside potential. It is a better indicator in young athletes. Please do not try to refute because History does not lie.

kyle is a great kid ,i worked out with him all summer ... he busts his ass.. he'll have a good season tc vs monrovia is gonna be some good games this year ... kyle vs eddie great match up

if kohorst throws 92 then rob and eddie throw 100 and should be 1st rounders

Anonymous,
I think I meant Kyle's brother Justin who was on the varsity team with Tucker. I got them confused.

kyle macdonald played freshman baseball his freshman year and did not hit against ryan tucker at practice as previously said.

Just to clear this mess up, no Kohorst did not throw Batting Practice today, only an idiot would throw the day before a game he's pitching in. It's a joke people, you're not supposed to take this seriously I don't think.

It does not matter whether you are a freshmen or a JV player when facing a fast-ball pitcher in the 80's & 90's. When Kyle MacDonald was a freshmen on the TC varsity squad, he was hitting against Ryan Tucker who pitched 90-95.

DAWG

who cares
its la salle

anyone know exactly who the kids are?

no way that kid hits 92 at PRACTICE. as Allen Iverson would say " its just practice." if that coach knows whats good for his players kohorst wont be throwin to JV kids at 92 the day before a start. But i did hear theyre bringing up some mashers for tuesdays game

what are u guys talkin about.i saw there practice today and koherst hit 92 that guy is awesome

anon. i heard that too... whats the deal?

Does anyone have an update on the Elks Baseball Tournament?

New York,
Are you going to any of the M-town baseball games?

DAWG

SMG
Why do I get top billing. I have nothing but love for you man. How was the “vacation” in rehab? Did it help?

SMG -
To quote Oscar Wilde, "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person."

Tom S., OC, goteamgo,
any luck finding that software to keep me from posting-- I was out on vacation and wanted to know if you three guys found it.

Wow,

HS Fan & Cats are going head 2 head!!! Is better than soaps.

Ding!!

Round Two.

HS Fan,
You just can help yourself - got to be a bully and get a cheap shot in after Fred tells everyone to be cool. Well, you picked on the wrong Cat. Most importantly, I would appreciated if you controlled yourself and didn't use profanity on this blog - there are kids that read this and quite frankly you are offensive when you use such language. Second I don't have a TV - but I do know what ESPN is and I played with Harold - so I familiar with him. You're are the reason the kid takes so much heat on the blog - why in the world would I or anyone else listen to someone like you who makes up nonsense like you do and obviously never played the game - you sir have zero credibility - you obviously have a vested interest in the kid. You taking shots at Eddie to pump up a guy with less skill is one of primary reasons for the negativity towards him.
I am very happy to have lived in Monrovia. Some of the best people i know live in Monrovia. Do you have a problem with that? Do you live somewhere better? Here is just a portion of your nonsense and made up statistics and claims: "Kohorst would dominate Eddie", Kororst only gave up one run against SF last year check that make that 4 in 4 innings. USD is a better school than UCLA because it cost more. He is a better pitcher because he is taller. Eddie throws 89 MPH per Fred - of course you got to jump in and make up that your guy throws 91 - come on. "Harold Reynolds and I have the same baseball knowledge", - how out of touch are you - Is there no one around you to stop you or help you? I do agree with Fred that we should not the knock the kid or any kid for that matter(and I believe if it weren't for aforementioned nutty posts no one would - I don't see Collis getting any negative comments here) but to put our guy down and put him in the same league as our guy is just too much for any sane M fan to take. Do yourself a favor and don't reply and just stop for the rest of the season - the kid will be fine actually better without you. Seriously.

Cats,
How can you say he does not throw 91mph? Were you at the game, because I bet you were at the monrovia v. poly game. Is there any real credability to your post because you have no facts to support them. I suggest you go back to your house in Monrovia and sit down and watch some espn and maybe pick up some baseball facts from T.V. because your theories are idiotic and you are talking out of your ass. Just rip off some quotes about baseball from Harold Reynolds. But maybe you don't know who he was so I won't be suprised if you don't listen to me or Harold Reynolds.

Fred;
High school players all deserve respect on the BLOG. Great posts regarding Kohorst. He deserves great remarks and respect for being a great athlete and great showing sportsmanship from football to baseball. Rivalry is one thing, but when bloggers attack the players without supporting evidence is not fair to them.

DAWG

Congrats to The PASADENA BULLDOGS BASKETBALL TEAM & the school with their CIF belt. Great job Coach Tucker!!

I hear the BELL ringing for this upcoming Tussle.

DAWG
(M-Town with some respect)

WOW!

The M-Town/Poly game was GREAT! It was an exciting pitching dual between Eddie and Robbie. As well as both teams battled it out through 8 strong innings. For a minute, I thought I was at a football game with all of the vehicles and the crowd in attendance. I will make the games early when Eddie is pitching in order to get a good seat.

Congrats M-Town on the win.

Go Cats!!

DAWG

I think st. francis needed that loss, they had a rude awakening but now theyre ready to go
theyre gonna be the hot team in the area
watch out

Fred, great post and I echo your comments. Matt's a good kid and his parents are super people. I just hope no adults are making these comments on the blog.

fred how come la salle baseball isnt getting any respect

More Chicks Sports Goods Elks tournament results from Saturday
Pasadena 3, Keppel 1, Bulldogs now 2-0 in tournament.
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South Pasadena 7, Hoover 2. Double by Matt Rueda and Casey Feldmeth gets the win as Tigers go to 2-0.
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Temple City 14, San Gabriel 0, three RBI's from Justin Coy as Rams go to 2-0.
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Alhambra 5, Azusa 1, junior pitcher Noe Ramirez goes the distances, striking out eight and allowing just three hits as Moors improve to 2-0.
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St. Francis 13, Sierra Vista 1, Joe DiPinto three RBIs for Knights, who improve to 1-1 after opening loss to PHS.
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In other tournaments...
St. John Bosco 3, Arcadia 2 in El Segundo tournament. Apaches drop to 1-1.
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San Marino sweeps Bosco Tech 5-2 and 1-0 to improve to 2-0.

I would like to caution everyone to not be so mean-spirited with La Salle's Matt Kohorst, who is a wonderful kid from a great family. I don't understand it. I realize that we have two special players in McKiernan and Rasmussen, but is it necessary to bash Kohorst while praising the other two? Let's show a little class, Kohorst is a fine player who also is a division one signee. Let's be more respectful with our postings and understand these are all hard-working kids.

st. francis beat sierra vista 12-1
solid outing by ramiro carreon
the knights answered their wakeup call from yesterday

Wow...nice win for the Bulldogs to open against St. Francis! Is Bob Beran still coaching them? He was my JV Coach at Blair back in '79. Speaking of my 'ol alma-mater...any improvement in the Viking program this year? Is there a glimmer of hope left in the Green and Gold?

Baseballfan--

Thank you for the Tucker and Bell updates!

Pasadena Poly beat Muir 7-1 on Saturday.

La Salle beat Mountain View on Saturday, 3-2. Jeff Knowles got the win and Troy Whitehead got the save. Ryan Doeppel and Corey Dolan were each 2 for 4. LS left too many runners in scoring position. They will need to hit and run the bases better to beat some of the good teams.

LS's next game is home on Tuesday against Paraclete, which beat Mountain View by a wide margin on Friday. La Salle will be missing most of the seniors, who will be on a retreat.

RHL Fan-

For your information, Maranatha went against a new kid that was throwing 91 from a side angle. We played great until the last 2 innings and let it get away. Also, just thought you would like to know that Maranatha played Azusa a couple of times in the pre-season and had great success against them.
Just be careful what you say as you continue to reference LAST YEAR. Remember that last year was last year and this year is this year. Hope that helps.

The two best ptichers in the area are Eddie and Robbie and by a wide margin. I knew Eddie was fantastic - I didn't realize how good the Poly kid is. To mention that kid from La Salle in the same sentence is a joke. He could not throw 90 MPH from 45 feet.

OC
Let’s cut SMG some slack. He was working the late shift at Dairy Queen

SMGoof
Posting at 12:48am? Yes, you obviously have quite the life.

Fred,
The score was 1-0 St. Francis going into the bottom of the 6th (I was very surprised); PHS threatened to score but couldn't tie it up. Then in the top of the 7th St. Francis bats came alive and scored 2 more insurance runs, with varsity returners Simonitsch and Wong getting Rbis. In the bottom of the 7th St. Francis just couldn't get any outs and had fielding and throwing errors all over the place. PHS capitalized and tied the game up. The winning run was scored on a passed ball. PHS wanted it more then St. Francis and it showed.

Tom S., OC, goteamgo,
wow it is not shocking to me that you guys have nothing better to do than put up new posts about my past comments (very interesting and entertaining)--- I would say find something better to do but obviously you guys have nothing better to do.
And obviously you guys know nothing about rivalries. Ever been to the Turkey tussle (Muir v. PHS) and the Classic (Garfield v. Roosevelt) you guys would be shocked what kind of words are exchanged on the fields and in the stands. So please stay in your bubble because you guys would be baffled if you knew what went on between these schools.

i have no idea what happened?

Anyone know more about that PHS win over St. Francis, that's a huge surprise to me.

LS Booster, nice of you to post an honest opinion even though your team lost. I'd like to see more posts like yours.

RHL Fan, let's see your top ten...

Two of the "reach" picks in the pre-season top 10 list were exposed today - #6 Rosemead was killed 16-1 by Azusa (with their lofty 9-11-2 record from last year) and #10 Maranatha goes down 3-2 to that powerhouse Ontario (with their mighty 2-21 record from last year). Hopefully the top 10 will be a little more reality-based in future weeks.

La Salle lost to a very good Temple City team, 5-0. The score was 1-0 until the 6th inning, when a TC triple scored 3 runs. McDonald for TC got the win, was throwing 85-86 and allowed just 2 hits in 5 innings. Kohorst for LS allowed 1 run and struck out 6 in four innings of work, and was consistently 87-88, with a top speed of 91. Both teams played good defense; no errors in the game.

Should be an exciting season.

Ontario 3 Maranatha 2

Rob and Eddie were both 89 all game touching 92. it was a great game! Both teams showed lots of heart! Great job Temple City over La Salle Kyle pitched how did kohorst do? but do u think kohorst could keep up with eddie or rob? i dont, no way!

Here's an update on Temple City Hurler - Ryan Tucker. He is currently in Jupiter FL attending Big League Camp for the FL Marlins Org. After playing a full season in Low A last yr, he's hoping to make the High A team in Jupiter, FL. Baseball America ranked him as the #8 top prospect in the organization. As far as Trevor Bell is concerned, I believe he'll be in minor league spring training camp for the Angels.

Pasadena 4 St Francis 3
Temple City 5 LaSalle 0

Monrovia 3, Pasadena Poly 2 in 8 innings to open the Elks tournament in front of a large and CIF-playoff type of crowd and atmosphere. Monrovia's Eddie McKiernan and Poly's Rob Rasmussen were terrific on the mound as expected. Both pitched five scoreless innings and both allowed just one hit. McKiernan struckout 10 and Rasmussen finished with nine K's. These are obviously two of the best pitchers and teams in the area.
Poly led 2-1 going into the seventh and was two-outs away from winning when Vince Vega of Monrovia tied it on a solo shot to right-center. The Wildcats won it in the eighth, but I think Poly showed they can play with any of the big boys this season.

Agreed - it is becoming a borefest -

Any word on the results of today's games? Let's remember - this is a baseball thread.

what a borefest!

MHS 2 the Test -

I beg to differ with you - its does go both ways - I can recall many posts by MHS "supporters" that accussed La Salle of "chickening out" because they did not schedule Maranatha, and other like comments involving football, basketball, soccer, and now baseball. This thing got nastier when SMG got in the mix with his posts.

You have your opinion, I have mine, let's agree to disagree. I do agree with you that it is getting old. They are both good schools with good kids.

Goteamgo,

I beg to differ. This has gone on for months in previous blogs and it is getting old. It doesn't go both ways but you're entitled to your opinion.

Never thought I would say this (as I went to MHS) but GOOOOOOO LaSalle Girls Soccer!!!!!!!!! Showin some love for the community and just praying that we can bring back at least one championship this week!

I think that both the La Salle and Maranatha faithful "flame the post." Look below, and you can see it works both ways - both sides are hurling insults at each other. I think if we got some software to keep SMG from posting, most of the negativity would dry up. The initial string started by asking a legitimate question as to why some teams were (or were not)ranked in the places they were - Maranatha and La Salle were just the two easiest examples (a 4-19 team ranked; a 20-6 team unranked)- what changed from last year?

Let's wish both teams luck in the spring season, and we can see where things fall out in a few months. Good luck to La Salle in the Elks tournament, and good luck to Maranatha in the Chino tournament.

It seems to me that whenever Maranatha is mentioned the "La Salle Faithful" flame the post. I don't see the rivalry mentioned; it doesn't go both ways. I see Maranatha posters repeatedly giving La Salle props.

La Salle, on the other hand, really needs to explore their need to constantly degrade the Minutemen. If this board is clogged with a "La Salle/Maranatha" rivalry, it's not caused by nor perpetuated by MHS.

Overall, La Salle's sports program is currently stronger than Maranatha's. No arguement there...but, the constant negativity thrown at the Minutemen won't make them quit coming on this board and positively supporting their teams.

Oh, and as always, good luck to La Salle in the finals and in the spring sports season.

Does anyone have information regarding former Temple City hurler Ryan Tucker? I think he played A-ball with the Marlins organization last year? Or......Trevor Bell formerly of C.V.?
Thanks!

gknights...you're wrong about one thing. Maranatha will attract tons of kids (athletes) from the Pasadena area. Not only does it offer great facilities and wonderful location, it's very inexpensive...and I'm sure there are plenty of scholarships available for families with modest income and good athletes.

TRDC
LaSalle has played Maranatha and have beat them the last 3 years. It was the last game of the season!

hey lshs
hey just thought u should know that south pas only lost 2 starters and one was a pitcher everybody else is a returning starter or incoming player from the JV level

LA SALLE FANS...keep your cool, they are just pre-season rankings...don't get your undies wrapped in a knot...the season will start soon and we'll see who can really deliver...

Tom S we are talking about this year not 2- 4 years from now when there will be completely different kids playing for these teams. You are banking on kids building your program that do not even go to your school yet and may never go to your school.Just because your school can hold more people does not mean more people want to go there. Any ways I am getting getting away from the point of this. This thread is for talking about local BASEBALL teams, coaches, players and games THIS up coming weekend and season.

Maranatha would dominate La Salley this year if La Salley had the guts to play them.

Poly vs Monrovia today could be a rare opportunity to see two of the finest pitchers in high school baseball match up....Poly lefthander Robbie Rasmussen is commited to UCLA and fun to watch. Eddie McKiernan of Monrovia throws major gas and is headed to UNLV...hopefully, that will be the pitching matchup.

the reason la salle dosent play Maranatha anymore, is because it is a joke

Good point Tom S-
La Salle needs to bear down and recruit more than potential St Francis kids.

Amazing after losing to LS by over 10 runs last year, and finishing fourth or fifth in the RHL, South Pas gets ranked ahead, and Maranantha who was 4-19 last year is ahead, and Rosemead who finished fourth in the MVL is ranked ahead, yet all do not return half of their starters. Yet everyone here is backing this clear overlook of La Salle in the rankings.

For a rivalry to occurr don't both teams have to win a fair amount of the time, and not just when there is a full moon?

Pasadena Guy, Anonymous, The Voice, SMG, OC and all other La Salle and Maranatha supporters. For a number of years now Maranatha has looked up to their big brother La Salle and relished the opportunity to play and occasionally beat them. Now with the new campus and the growing student body, little brother is as big and will be bigger than big brother and the smack talk that’s going on is in it infancy. Look ahead 2 to 4 years and with the realignment that will take place we’ll see La Salle and Maranatha playing against each other in league and you think what’s going on now is over the top just wait.

andrew campa was at our school today and he said he would rank la salle #5

Amen JohnM.
Can we please just zip it for a week at least regarding a LaSalle v Maranatha rivalry. Let's focus on LaSalle's girl going to the Championship. Pasadena, Renaissance Academy, or even Flintridge Prep's girl. For goodness sakes people--let's talk about something new!! There are other athletes who are worth our time--no offense LaSalle or MHS.

La Salle has won the last three years they want to up their competition before going to the playoffs

Guys..Guys..Guys..

Just settle down. Maybe Maranatha is ranked higher..uh...because they are better THIS YEAR!!!

The past is the past and the future is with Maranatha.

Also, one important note. Maranatha was scheduled to play La Salle on the last game of the year like they have been doing recently. Just last week, La Salle decided that they didn't want to play the game and bailed out. Hmmmmmm maybe they know something.
Good luck in the Elks to all!! We're off to the Chino to get better by playing the best of the best!

Does the La Salle-Maranatha thing ever stop?

LOL...and I thought the Girls Soccer posts were entertaining this year. Looks like it's going to be an exciting baseball season. Let's Play Ball!!

Tom S-
I don't think Dairy Queen pays for SMG's anger management classes.

SMG- no G for genius.

Tom S.
actually I have not been attending my anger management classes lately -- and do not ever send me your regards-- you can send those to your coaching staff because they wiil need them when they decide to schedule a real game

SMG
Did you get back into those anger management classes you stop going too. Man, I’m starting to worry about your mental health.
Regards

One of our newest staffers, Scott Galetti worked on the baseball rankings this season. I have to agree with him with the exception of putting Maranatha in front of La Salle..I would also have La Canada higher on this list, but his top five is solid. Of course, we'll know a lot more after the Elks tournament, and Friday's Monrovia-Poly game with top pitchers McKiernan and Rasmussen going head to head.

Tom S.
Marianta stinks in baseball too.

I was wondering the same thing ...How does a team with a 1 win get ranked for anything and a team the won league gets nothing... I 'm glad that I'm not the only one that sees something wrong with that.

Maranatha was 4-19 overall, and 1-7 in league in 2006, and are moving to a tougher league in 2007, and they are ranked #10 -

La Salle was 20-6 overall, 10-0 in league, made the second round of the playoffs in 2006, and they are unranked?

Why (in the Star News' opinion) did Maranatha have a meteoric rise, and La Salle such a drastic fall between seasons? Maranatha has a new coach and a tougher league; La Salle has coaching continuity and returning talent.

Just curious - maybe La Salle did not lobby hard enough to be ranked? We will know at the end of the season (just like we found out with the La Salle girl's soccer team!!)

Just curious what happened to La Salle? Honestly half the teams in the top 10 had sub .500 records last year.