FOOTBALL: Who will be the 2007 Star-News Player of the Year?

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Tknox,
You have no clue what you are talking about!!! You think RHP only accepts the best athletes from Kare Youth League. That is not true at all. That doesnt work because the good athletes want to be heavily recruited and therefore go to bigger schools. Tobi Umodu, Brian Hunter, Jon Cornell, Brandon Bennet, Mike Harris, all guys whom I played with when I was in KYL have all moved on to D-1 schools. They were the best athletes and they did not join RHP. The freshman QB at Monrovia, Thropay, was the best athlete in his age level and he didnt go to RHP. So to say that RHP does not enroll kids because they arent the best atletes is absurd. If you look at the 2005 championship game, Campbell Hall had about 3 or 4 guys headed to Div-1 schools. RHP-none. Campbell Hall was a much more athletic team than RHP. We've done fine without the "respect" your talking about and i'm pretty sure we'll be ok if we still dont get it.

tknox

well spoken... i have a few friends on rhp and your right on the nose.. after playing tackle ball since 2nd grade you should be great. I play at a local high school where most guys have only played tackle since 9th grade.RHP is like a pro tea compared to us.

finchamp,

That's my point,..."no one gets cut." No one gets cut because they are brought there to play football. They aren't enrolled if they aren't one of the more talented kids from the league. It would be pathetic to not be good with the recruiting set-up that RHP has. It just gets old that you continue to yell for respect for a school that is clearly training children from elem. school and then using a "CIF defined "unfair advantage" to enroll only the top football players for your team/school. Geesh, you guys are good, you should be...but, stop comparing yourselves to other schools that are following the rules.

No one says that your team isn't good, but the respect you're craving has to be earned.

P.S. most private schools have a large core of kids from the area. The school reflects the neighborhood. Then there are the other kids who come to those schools for various reasons.

It will be hard for Muir and Monrovia because ...last time a they played a big fight broke out and gun shot were fired.The 2 cities will not allow the game because theres not enough police to control the to crowds

Stang Fan,
This topic is a little old and depressing. It's depressing because we both know where Muir used to be but it's pretty clear where Muir is now. OC also schedules Diamond Ranch...They will schedule pretty much anybody. You guys were electric in the 1980's and EARLY 1990's but not since then. Your numbers are too low.

Stang Fan

You did play Monrovia and we won the first game and you guys won the next year....so that makes us even for now....Now schedule us in your future and see the results....You may be the only one on this blog surprised at the outcome.

A lot has been recently mentioned regarding Muirs strength of schedule in the preseason. Playing the premier programs in So Cal is nothing new to the stang program. Muir recently been a punching bag for OC but in the past Muir has laid wipe to several perenial powerhouse opponents.
Dating back to the 87 season Muir hosted the preseason number one ranked team IN THE NATION and pulled off perhaps the greatest regular season shooker in school history. Since they have played Crespi during Russell White senior year. Also played Fontana and Rialto Eisenhower in their glory years before people in the inland empire had a choice of where to go to school. I was attended a game at Fontana HS and arrived well over an hour before game time to see their side nearly full. (Muir knocked Fontana off when they were a nationally ranked lead by Sulti Mc Cullough the year Brownfield returned for a one year stint). Muir also played Bishop Amat for several years and defeated them once on a miraculous final play which I saw. Follow this tp play Servite and not to mention Esperanza and Loyola. Oh and did I mention Los Alamitos also during their years of going to D1 finals. Oh wait it gets better how about LB Poly. The last game against them was a real embarassment but we tried.
So when you bloggers wish that your Monrovia could play Muir (we already have and it is not worth mentioning amongst these other schools) just take note of who the little school in NW Dena that suites up anywhere from 33 to 45 each year and many never really play is scheduling and who in "all" of the San Gabriel Valley should be admiring.
And have I mentioned how many Muir kids since the mid 80's have played on Sundays.
Enjoy your season bloggers and can't wait to hear that bell!

TKnox

Pretty close. No one gets cut. Every kid at RH Prep suits up on either varsity or JV however. I think most private schools draw from all over don't you?

lovefootball--

The woman comment is to see if I draw anymore out which I finally did. Somewhere along the way someone got the impression I don't like Maranatha, not true. I will defend Prep however when I believe teams of lower calibre boost themselves above RH Prep when they don't merit that status. I have watched last year's game, including recently, and know full well that RHP best play flawless ball again to match up and beat Maranatha for the fourth time in a row. I do wish you a successful season sans the one game.

kevin is the best Hhahahah

dont forget David Baier, Micahel Palffy, and Ryan Doeppel from la salle in the running too b/c they make Chase Rettig the quarterback he is and without them chase would be nothing

Futbol,
Heyworth from St Francis has two quality targets to throw the ball to, Riley and Kevin Garcia.

Huckster---of course you know Dawg 87 Style, just look in the mirror!

I'm feeling that "Dawg 87 Style"! I must know you! My son has been killing Austin and them since Pop! Have respect for them but, I too think HS has more skilled players! But I'm a homer Big time! Dogs 42 Harvard Westlake 7.......

Mr. Mustang and Stang Fan,

Ruben (Bingo) will not lead Muir to no Pacific league title! He will be the reason you lose to one of the Burbank schools, Arcadia and lose to the DOGS in the Tussle! I believe Muir will take 4th in league because of the QB position. This is what passing league means, load the line of scrimmage against the Stangs and stop the run, because they can't pass! PERIOD! Muir's corners are very suspect (good at camps only) and the line backer crew is average at best. PHS and Muir's lines are both suspect and Burroughs is athletically challenge. Arcadia will rely solely on Kev Walker, which I think will not be enough by him self. I know the DOGS have question marks on the O-line and if that can be answered with positive play, nobody in this area can handle them! Period! I think the Central division is going to have a difficult time with our team speed as well. This is the first time in a long time PHS has more game breakers at skill positions than the Stangs. That was proved in passing league! Oh, the DOGS have first team QB (Tyrone Crockom), first team Running Back (Rashard McCord) and first team receiver (Michae "Trump" Harrison). The killer will be (JR) Devante "TuTu" LaFlore at full back! He is a big time player with big time ability. The "D" will be special! Enough said! Outside of the Don's which will be a killer upfront for the DOGS everyone else will deal with the fury of the PASADENA BULLDOGS! THIS WILL BE A GLORIOUS YEAR!

finchamp-
Sorry to be the one to suggest you may not know everything, but I'm not a female. I do love football and as far as your observation that loving does not mean understanding, well I guess I would have to leave that to those smarter than me to figure that one out.

I will say it was pretty impressive how you figured out that MHS envy joke. I bet you're a pretty sharp guy.

I like Mark Love and I'd keep an eye on Alex Clash too. I bet though that the POY isn't even on the list - might even end up being someone that plays both ways?

Good luck on your season and the playoffs.

Why don't we stop with the arrogance? Stop the boasting about RHP doing such miraculous things with a student body of 80.

It's not rocket science. If we all ignored the spirit of the blue book and built a school around a sports league, built teams from elementary school and kept them together through jr and high school, give them a private school education in an area that they don't live in to stay with the same team through HS...we'd all have powerhouse teams.

It is what it is. The football team is trained for years to win. The best athletes make the cut. It's a great opportunity for those kids who might not otherwise get a chance. RHP has a solid program...but really, shouldn't they?

Before we start annointing QB's to POY status you need to make sure they have adequate receivers and vice verse. I have never seen a great reveiver w/o a QB and a grat QB w/o a receiver or two. My vote is for Willie Youngblood a proven runner on a good team and possibly Cockrom. People vote from knowledge not blind school pride.

SEPT 7th!! showdown between Apaches and Knights, Walker vs. Riley!! ill be front row fron and center for that game its gunna be a great one. i feel arcadia takes down st francis in a offensive shootout 35-32. the key to the apaches victory will be their new offense and walkers running ability. the knights in the past showed that they struggle against QBs who can run so this will be a great game

Football loven mom,
Re-read your closing argument....the slightest detail makes the point opposite of what I think you wanted to say.

hey finchamp

I hope it's ok for women to blog here.. I think women have had the vote for sometime.. and equal right... so i think we're allowed to blog also..

football mom

P.S. just because i didn't play in high school does mean i don't understand the game.. and love it just a much as you do.. so give us girls a break..

Hey dguerrero:
Paul and I have had an ongoing bantering about the facilities at RHP. I am just kidding. Things are getting way to serious here. Sorry if I offended you

tom s -
how does a field have anything to do with the performance of your players? i'm glad your tuition was able to buy you guys a brand new facility with artificial turf and all, but with 80 kids paying far less than any private school in the area i'm really sure artificial turf is not in the budget. besides, football was born on grass and it should be played that way.

Be on the look out for Kevin Garcia from St Francis High School. WR with great hands and speed!!!

i have nothing against monrovia. I have family on the team as we speak. I hope they do well. I know the type of players monrovia produces. I hope the coaching is better this year. Hopefully we can see the town in the cif finals.

ftblfan,
Duarte returns most of there offense and have more talent then you think. Im surprised were not ranked higher. Plus some else said it right. Around week 4-5 Thats when the real standing come out and mean something, this is just a guessing game.

P Finchamp:
I have to agree with you that Mark Love is the only Maranatha player who should be on Player of the Year list. As I’ve stated before, I have the utmost respect for the football program you’ve got going at RHP. To do the things you’ve accomplished with the size of your student body shows nothing but commitment from your coaching staff and players. I will avoid making any comments about the upcoming match against you. I don’t need to fuel the fire and besides we’ve got to play on that cow pasture you call a football field.
Right now we need to concentrate on the rematch we’ve got against St. Margaret’s. This will be a good indicator on where this year’s minuteman team is at.

Finchamp - you seem to be a bit hung-up on women posting to the blogs - I hope it doesn't continue - and we need to move past the RHP-Maranatha back and forth - it's getting old and the season has not even started - I am sure RHP has other opponents to focus on - as do the Minutemen.

Ex-Falcon

Your true rankings will come around the fourth game of the season. For the Falcons it will come week 2 against the Wildcats at Duarte. I think this Wildcat team is much better than most people think and will give it there all against Duarte. I hope that Duarte gives the rest of the league and CIF Hell so that they could meet Monrovia in the Final....It could well happen.

lovefootball--

Eeeww got me. Again as I said earlier, lovefootball does not mean understand football. The only Maranatha player that deserves to be on the list is Love because he actually produced big numbers. Yupe I mentioned my son but only that he should not be on the list then Galetti puts him on.

Nice play on the MHS envy an interesting play on words from a woman. I'm a little disappointed by some of the banter coming from Maranatha bloggers which has boredered (sic) on disgraceful in the past--present company excluded of course.

New York,

Well...I tried to keep myself away from looking at the blogsite and as hard as it was, I did not look untill now. I was gone for about little over a week so I was surprised not to see anything on SF or Arcadia. My wife would've murdered me if she had seen me going on the blogs. =]

Is the preview on AHS or SF going to be up anytime soon? I would like to see how my Apaches are doing and how the big time SF is doing as well.

I have read on Scout.com about Austin Daniels from Muir. I believe he participated in the well-known B2G camp and did very well. I believe Scout.Com also did an article on Arcadia player Todd Golper as well as the decommitment and commitment of Kevan Walker from Minnesota to UCLA. It's good to see some SGV kids getting some love from the national press.

Any words on Monrovia?

It's not uncommon that the first football poll out of the box revolves around how teams finished the year before and less to do about picking how they are in the present.

the question you should be asking is why is duarte ranked over monrovia

why isnt the M-town ranked in the Mid-valley div and tc is?

BigM,
Are we ready to go 14 weeks or what? I'm sick of the 11-12 week seasons (excluding the bye-week).

Lineman fan,
anywhere on the field is enemy territory when your linemen cannot at least stalemate the other side. There was a great 3 day camp in LB this year "Linemen Inc". Coaches from UNLV, UCLA, New Mexico, etc...teaching fundamentals and preaching old school one on one war. 14 to 18 age group. A great opportunity to compete and learn. I definitely agree...we need more guards switching to FB on short yardage, tackle eligibles on the goal line and centers, guards and 1/2 the universe pulling at one time. The funny thing is the muddiest, beat up, grass stained dude out there is often 100% happy as is. His respect (and your son's) will be earned by being good at what they do. No doubt greater recognition is warranted, but an 80 yard sustained ground-grinding war is only beautiful to those who know what it takes to make it happen. The line of scrimmage will teach your son lessons he can pocket and utilize far down the road.

Austin Daniels will be a three year starter for muir and a two year starter on both sides of the ball. Look for him to be muir's gamebreaker. He has been getting pub all over the internet for his performances at various off-season camps. Check Scout.com

linemen fan...

If your boy is the lineman you hope he is, he wouldn't want the POY Award. That award is reserved for the flashy/sexy...always has been, always will be. He would want it to go to his QB/RB/WR...again, if he's a lineman.

bloodnguts and scott

as a mother of a two way playing linemen who has played sick,hurt and "walking dead" your right on the money.. the rb abd wr don't get any yardage with out our guys opening up a hole.. so how about a award for the guys on the line... most play every down and get zero or very little press. ( they don't play for it but it would be nice once in awhile) any way just a thought..

Trevor Finchamp is a running back not a quarterback. he will run well over a 1000 yards and probably sit out the 4th quarter in most games. he gets my vote. Someone needs to correct his position.

I am a local high school football fan> Played for Montclair back in "68. I find it interesting that some of you compare Maranantha to Rio Hondo. Rio Hondo's total enrollment is about 80 kids. Maranantha has 650. Why can't Maranantha beat Rio?? For CIF playoffs Rio plays a division above. I think Maranantha needs to clobber Rio before they should even want to compare.

Big A,
I know Tejas is not as progressive on some things, but couldn't you find internet access anywhere?

Welcome back.

I could see Do winning player of the year. He's a real throwback player, going both ways at the tough positions.

I am back...yes, I am back! After visiting the fam in Texas I am here to continue my love for so cal football. I have looked throughout the coverage and where are the big time schools that the star news covers? St. Francis, Arcadia, and Muir have not had articles up?

Everyone, lets realize something shall we? I believe we shouldn't have a 2nd string div ? (something high up there) from Maranatha when you have such great programs like St. Francis, Arcadia, Muir, PHS, Monrovia...etc

Sorry, but thats my opinion.

I believe the running will come down to Walker, who is now committed to UCLA as well as Youngblood, Do, those two kids from Alhambra, and the QB from Pasadena.

I am not sure if Backus intends to keep Will Do at outside backer full time and hand him the ball 20 times on Offense as well. Watching Do at LB iso through the binocs... shed the double-team and lead block, stuff the play, contain the outside threat and still step in to make the tackle - making it look ho-hum all the while, the fluidity and ease of it shows there is even greater potential in his play. Last season he picked up a opening game short kickoff, returning it for a TD. He looked like he was just casually jaywalking along at first...then see ya. Barring injury, and contributing on both sides of the ball...then again, the candidates have yet to make any opening statements...

FredJ and ScottG,

I can't wait for the arcadia/SF showdown. Riley covering one of walker's receivers and Walker covering his BROTHER riley. WOW, this could be a great game. I think arcadia senior group this year learned a lot from last year. Experience is the key this year with arcadia.
SF has a ton of talent coming back and Bonds always has his kids ready to play.

Hey 76 -

Last I checked RHP has won 1 CIF title in the real football world and MHS missed their first title by a point. You are correct, RHP 1 MHS 0. RHP has an obviously insurmountable lead in the CIF titles race...

What is YOUR theory about finchamp always starting or ending his pearls of wisdom by referencing MHS?

It comes across a bit weird to me too - like a complex or something.

lovefootball -
i'm sure finchamp is envious of a team that still can't win a BIG game to save their lives. october 5th is right around the corner... we'll talk then.

Anonymous,
Yeah, you probably need to remind EVERYONE since his showing last year placed him at second string until the Clash injury. Great if you're correct for this year. Good luck to Matt. He's a good athlete and I'm sure he and/or Alex will make MHS proud.

"Regarding the Maranatha QB postion, need I remind you that Matt earned the starting spot at the begining of last year only to lose it due to injury. He WILL be the starting QB for MHS this year and a very good one. Nothing against Alex but Matt is the guy."

To answer why Maranatha has two QB's and one RB listed;

The Maranatha lobby is very vocal on this blog, and the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

For running backs, how about adding David Baier of La Salle?

scottg,
I think that 'just wondering' is on the money. The skill positions don't make it on SC if the knuckle draggers don't get it done. Joe Montana didn't give a Rolex every year to his offensive lineman for nothing.

Take a mid-season look at the successfull teams and then find out who the players are with the broken fingers, strained knees, wrecked helmuts, and blood stained uniforms.

I think the award should rightly be given to a Defensive or Offensive lineman. These guys are the hardest working players enduring the most pain play in and play out.

mr. mustang:

Keep on posting your comments, I can see that the Stang Nation is finally venturing into cyberspace. That fires me up!

As far as Ruben (aka Bingo) is concerned, dude has undoubtedly got skills. Quick, fast, and elusive, a perfect match for Youngblood in the backfield. But 2,700 total yards? I'm not quite so sure about that. Don't get me wrong, the potential is clearly there, but 2,700 total yards is, as Pac would say, "Straight Ballin'." But I did hear from a buddy who was at the intra-squad scrimmage that Bingo was most certainly doing his thing. Good luck this year Bingo!

LET'S GO STANGS!!!

Finechamp -
We all knew you wouldn't be able to post without questioning MHS players and talking about your son.

Me thinks you got a terminal case of MHS envy.

Regarding the Maranatha QB postion, need I remind you that Matt earned the starting spot at the begining of last year only to lose it due to injury. He WILL be the starting QB for MHS this year and a very good one. Nothing against Alex but Matt is the guy.

what 'bout sf kyle morgan, evan king, luther walker, pat degnan, muir marcus ??? miles campbell

Is player of the year always a qb,wr,or rb ? Can it be a linemen? just wondering.. 'cause i think sometimes the work horse get over looked..

what about Todd golper and eric willum from arcadia?

Frankly, the other sports probably do not have many "has-beens", like me, to support the blog.

Anonymous, If you click on the archive for August 2007, you can still get to the volleyball blog. It was bumped after soooooo many football blogs were started.

By the way everyone, next week we plan on showding video highlights and interviews of the Duarte-Monrovia game with yours truly writing the game story.
Scott will be at the Arcadia-St. Francis thriller, which I believe is his game of the week.

Boys, boys, the player of the year will come down to Youngblood, Riley, Walker, Brown, and yes, Williams Do, who will pick up where Sushi and Broadnax left off. If PHS finds its way to a breakthrough year, then Crockom will be in the running also...
Finchamp, I almost picked Goodwell for the player of the year, but felt they needed to beat Hamilton in the Div. XIII championship to validate it. He was the best Div. XIII player I covered in five years at the Star.

Wow. 2,700 yards offense for Muir's QB. Add that to Willie's 2,000+ on the ground and it looks like Muir is in for a fireworks filled 5,000 yard season.

You're killing me with this post at this point in the season. And two QBs from Maranatha neither of whom has posted big numbers? And three guys from Maranatha, a D-XIII school? Chances are it may boil down to a few players that play both sides of the ball.

To earn this award I feel you have to look at huge impact players and clearly those with some prospect of making it to D-I in college. Therefore with few exceptions (Landon Goodwell) I think you have to consider kids from programs like TC, St. Francis, Monrovia and Muir. Look I've got a great kid doing a lot of different stuff at RH Prep and I don't think he belongs on the list but let me suggest that this be brought up midway into the season, not now with little research put into the list of names appearing at the top. Geez if you're going to put Schilz on the list why don't you put Castro on it from RH Prep? At least Castro was 4-0 in his starts last year including a 37-0 victory over Maranatha with the other QB, Clash that is listed.

Ruben from Muir is going to be key to muir success.I think rubenn will pass for 2,000yards and run for 700 yards.He is quick and is hard to get a hand on.Willie is the man for muir but Ruben will make drive the score up.

Old School,
I would never suggest that Coach Mooney ran a mediocre program, especially since he consistently beat us with far fewer tools.

TC's absolute results don't stack up to those of the Hitchcock era, but few in the country do.

Mooney teams have pulled some big upsets going back to his days as OC with Maloney at San Marino.

I do think Backus is well positioned for success at TC. He was there during the DiFiori tenure (0-4 against Monrovia) but still had a semi-final appearance in 1998.

Scott....how about a poll on when a thread about a sport other than football will be started?

How in the world do you have back-up QB Matt Schilz of Maranatha and not have the starting Maranatha quarterback, Alex Clash. Is this a list of who you "want" to be in the running? Matt's a good kid but geesh, let him earn it.

New York,
You did a nice job breaking down TC's losses in the playoffs during the Mooney era sometime ago. Building on the recent post regarding complacency within the program, I agree. Mooney always wanted league titles not CIF titles. Backus will rescue the program from mediocrity and restore the Hitchcock philosophy.

Posted by: Old School Ram | August 29, 2007 08:35 AM