Fan,
I bet that game lasted less than two hours. The clock almost never stops! You guys ran into Colton last year, right? Did they line up in a lot of double wing and get about 5 people to the point of attack every time? It's a numbers game. They have 5 where you have three...

no prob...my bad, not a wing T. Thanks for the correction.

Fan,
I that's awesome. I own videos one and two from coachmarkham.com. Contrary to popular belief, Markham does not run the Wing-T. He essentially runs student body right and left, traps, counters and reverses out of a double-tightend double-wing formation with a sniffer fullback.

It looks like Colton runs a similar package, except Colton has other formations as well.

A true Wing-T has a lot more disception with fullback fakes and false pulls. Temple City ran a bastardized version of it when Soumakian was coaching in the 90's.

NY,

Want to see to wing T teams grind it out? Bloomington vs. colton.

http://www.myspace.com/coltonyellowjackets

NY,
You are right about that I am very excited about the Loyola game. I even have made plans to be at the game( I currently live in washington state). I was at the '93 game it was a great high school football game it went back and forth. That year was the begining of the revival of football at SF Redell was the head coach and Bonds the OC. When I played we had three head coaches in 4 years. That is no way to build a program.

sfhs92,
That last one was from me. Funny that it came up anonymous...haha!

You must be excited for the Loyola game. Last time they played was fall 1993. You guys pulled out all the stops, including giving your big o-lineman a short yardage handoff.

sfhs92,

Lowe was a great football and baseball player class of 1992. I did not play with him, though. He was a tall guy, too. That's too bad about his ankle. Unfortunately for Jason, he played during just about the worst time for Monrovia football. At least he won a baseball league championship, though.

New York,
If you are in your middle 30's did you play with Jason Lowe at monrovia? I played with him at PCC. He was stellar if it hadn't been for that ankle injury his sophomore year at pcc he would have definately gone D1. He had a complete game for a running back speed, power and he could catch the rock.

I beleive Dick Bruich is also a CIF champion softball coach.

NY,

Dick Brich will always be a IE icon for his days at Fontana High. His son is following in his footsteps at Redlands East Valley.

By the way, thanks for the feedback. That's the type of wisdom I'd expect to come from The Stang Fan.

You're right that I will take the high road. On a different note, I'd say that just about every Monrovia football blogger knows who I am.

Regardless, I'm here to talk about football and I never meant to suggest that I would be the person who is offended by the remarks to the point of pulling a Soprano. As I mentioned, those types of tragedies that he is continually joking about are not part of my realm.

how is being anon and having an id of a whole freakin state any different?

if you do indeed live in new york, are you seriously willing to travel across country to settle a high school football internet blog dispute?

trust me, im not the same anon, but i did get a chuckle. the anon is probably a high school kid. the general consensus points to you being in your mid 30s. take the higher road bro.

Burbank,
I showed that just for conversation. I think many towns can be good in football if the town makes it a priority and gets involved in the right ways.

Anonymous/Coward,

Hanging yourself? Is that how your parents raised you to deal with your personal failures? That does not happen on our side of Second Ave. I suggest you stop making jokes about a serious problem in your own backyard. Otherwise somebody may decide to make a contribution to the Star News IT staff and track your login address and pay you a visit.

Ok, that makes sense New York.
Interesting about the demographics you found. I don't think ethnicity is a tell all demographic. I think something related to parental demographics might provide insight. If you think about it, a history of high school football in so cal would be very interesting. Does it all go back to El Rancho or Garfield or Roosevelt? From the stories I've heard, El Rancho was where alot of WSGV fathers once played. I'm going back to the 60's mind you.

thank you!!

finally has some balls and some sense!!

like i said before, arcadia, muir, sf, monrovia, phs and tc are the ONLY schools that should get any love! all the other schools are terible!!

p.s. i am not posting responses to myself! i promise!

now ocat and new york... thats a whole different story. im still waiting on an answer. o-cat and new yourk, will you stop posting here for the rest of your life and hang yourself if arcadia beats monrovia?

you actaully answered a question with a question. thats not allowed. is that what they teach over at monrovia, the home of the "M"ildcats?!!?!?!

hahahahahahah!!! "M"ildcats!

Fan,
You did not even mention Kaiser. Dick Bruich has been there only coach since leaving Fontana.

Fan,
I love the IE's football mentality. Fans show up. Boosters/parents organize. Grandmother's have season tickets. It's great.

Burbank,
By D-3 I meant that St. Francis and some of the most recent D-3 teams (less SO Notre Dame) are in it. D5 less Norco! Of course Colton and the rest of the Subelt League were washed up members of the old D-1. Truthfully, the Sunbelt league has not been able to compete with the Baseline League for years. That is because the football population in Rancho and Upland is deep.

By the way, I looked up some of the enrollment stats for Diamond Ranch...they look similar to Monrovia except DR has more Asian Americans. Same total enrollment though. They seem to have a tough football team. Frustrating.

NY,

Corona Cen. with Ryan Bass and others are ranked #8 in the nation according to maxpreps. The IE and Riverside county is a breeding ground for D1 kids. In my opinion, San Bernardino county, Cajon, Colton, San Bernardino High, Redlands, Serrano, Colony, upland, Rancho etc....could be the best county in the nation for football.

The Western Division is like the old D3? The Central is like D5? I don't see that at all. Years ago when the population of the Inland Empire was a lot less, the current Central might be D5, but not now. The current Western Division is not on a D3 level at all, unless you put all the OC schools in D1 and D2.

St. Francis is the only team playing in the equivalent of the old division 3. The Pacific League now plays in a D5 hybrid.

Holy smokes that was no upset!!!! Arcadia is that good and St Francis is that bad period!!!St Francis 3-7 at best, sorry knights its another long year with Bonds and still no league title, next year?

If you are playing in any division lowerr than division 3 there is no way you can be ranked #1 in the area. Arcadia, Muir, PHS, and St. Francis will smoke any of those lower division teams. Lower division teams are playing in lower divisions for one reason. They Suck!

Anon,
Your are probably from that arcadia '06 team that monrovia beat. You should have let your playing do the talking. It's too late now and you are making an idiot of yourself.

Perfect. What team did you play for? Where did you go to school? I hope you declare just so your alumni can be further shamed by your association. Are you a supporter or just a hater? Pick a name.

hahahaha... pumpkin spit on you!!!

i actually like rooting for the "M"ildcats!!! M for Monrovia!!! right?!

hahahaha!!

p.s. i got like a million more minutes, so i'll be here all season long! at least as long as you are on this!!

"M"ildcats!

From the way you present yourself, I can see why you enjoy staying Anonymous. You have not offered one tidbit about anything to do with football. You have not even declared what team you are supporting. Lucky them. No local team can afford to have you associate with them. They would be too ashamed to even suit up Friday night if the suspected that you were there "supporting" them. Hasn't your phone card expired yet? Will the warden take away your internet privileges any time soon?

Go Cats!

its funny. . but has anybody even heard of SFfan since arcadia won on friday?? he's nowhere to be seen lol but before the game he was boasting on about how his knights were going to "dismantle" the apaches, but now he hasnt put up one post..hmm!

My congrats to the Stangs for putting up a FIGHT with the All-mighty OC...

All I know that STangs can play with anybody now.

ND's QB, Jimmy Clausen, needed some of the Muir players to help him on his first loss against PENN State.

Congrats Gentlemen,

& Congrats Stang Fan.

DAWWG

how is no one mentioning chase rettig? the kid is without a doubt the areas top quarterback. He almost threw for 400 yards and 3 touchdowns vs huntington park. He has an a gun for an arm i've seen him throw over 60 yards on the fly. you should watch this kid play, hes something special

can someone please help CALABASAS ?
they have lost 44 games straight which is a state record ! should they still have a program ?

MUIR should be #1 this week !
did you see the stats ? all you guys on this blog fail to relize that all the kids that played for oaks christian have played the 3rd & 4th qtrs for 3 years straight behind
jimmy and company ! so , that is alot of experiance. oaks christian back ups will beat every one in the top ten. and oaks fans said , they could not remember the last time they did not score at all in the second half. besides st . frances lost alot of kids , it was just aracdia's year to beat them , while st. francis is rebuilding. as for P.H.S. please dont put them on the top ten. no line ! and shall i say 0-1 , 0-2 , 0-3 ! the team the dawgs play next (WEST RANCH) beat lancaster friday 35-18 and they have there whole team back from last year.

Here's my take on the game.

It's a loss. Anyway you cut it, we still lost. Are them some positvies to take out of the game? Definitely. Are there some negatives? No doubt. At the end of the day most Muir fans were pleased that their Stangs fought hard in the second half and didn't "roll over" like OC DIEHARD/NEW MUIR FAN pointed out.

The negatives:

Special teams, special teams, special teams. Two bad punt snaps and one blocked punt gave OC the ball on or close to Muir's 30 yard line THREE TIMES. You can't expect your D to hold up when you give a powerhouse the ball deep in your own territory three times, all of which resulted in 21 points for OC.

The first half. The fact that we were playing our first game and OC was playing their second game was quite apparent in the first half. There were a lot of missed tackles in the first half which led directly to OC's first TD's. As the old adage goes, teams improve most between game 1 and game 2.

Missing players. Someone mentioned earlier that we were missing five players due to eligiblity. Really it was only four and the fifth kid was injured. Let me clarify, it was not academic it was just paperwork (I'll get to my take on the school's other issues another time.) Three were starting lineman and the other two were major players. Injuries are part of the game, but missing those four others really hurt.

The positives:

B-I-N-G-O!!! Man, oh man, is this kid dynamic. I sat on OC's side just so I could hear the commentary from the OC fans, and they were all over this kid. His 70 yard TD was awesome, and the crowd was just STUNNED when he scored. He also wreaked havoc for OC when he would scramble around the backfield only to find a reciever upfield. The kid is just good.

The second half. I don't know what the coaches said at halftime but whatever it was it worked. As stated earlier OC did start the second half off with their back-ups and some of their starters. But let me tell you, when Muir shut down their O and then scored, those starters went right back into the game. I know the coaches didn't want to re-insert their top guys, but the fans were calling for them to do just that by the middle of the third quarter. And when they did come in Muir still outplayed them. Like OC DIEHARD said their guys were exhausted (Malcolm Jones was gasping for air after Bingo's second TD), and our guys were just FLYING to the ball.

Speed, speed, speed!!! We looked plain FAST on Friday night. On offense and defense guys were just flying around everywhere. It was so refreshing to see a Muir team with that much team speed.

Final analysis:

If we don't finish the regular season with a 9-1 record (obviously barring any injuries to major players) it will definitely be considered a dissapointment. The only team I can really see giving us a game is Arcadia. And to all those who thought we shouldn't be playing a team like OC, just talk to the OC fans. They were thoroughly impressed with the Stangs, and quite upset that we outscored them 20-0 in the second half.

LET'S GO STANGS!!!

Alhambra would stomp all over all these teams you guys are talking about.

Dueprocess

I can resect that. I will drop you a line...this is becoming a continual headache.

Burbanksports is around these days. Nothing to brag about in the city of burbank. The pacific league championship is not going through burbank. Sorry big guy.

Big A:

I don't think the Pacific League will be good, I think Muir and Arcadia will be good. Can somebody please tell me what happened to Burroughs in their loss to Schurr. Burbanksports? All of the Pacific League teams lost except for Arcadia and CV, and CV beat a lowly, rebuilding LC by 6.

Wow. Just got back on the computer after centering my thoughts on the Arcadia/SF game. WOW!

First of all, the credit goes out to Coach Dimalante and his staff for putting Kevan Walker in the position he is in. GREAT move! St. Francis gets a lot of credit, but I feel like Arcadia was more fired up than SF was? Did anyone else feel that way? Arcadia's linebackers were flying all over the field with #18 Golper making 2 or 3 sacks along with #32 Casey Picard making 1.

Great play-calling by the Apaches and just the will to win was such fun to watch. I don't know if Arcadia deserves the top spot because it is but one game but SF does not deserve it. Muir should probably be above it and I believe the Pacific league will be very good this year.

Well. Next week: Monrovia!

i wouldnt mind having to sign in to post.

itll weed out these fly by posts as well as current students/players

the bashing post of kevan walker is so immature. what do they teach over at st francis?

People, we've been doing pretty well keeping things clean, albeit the season didn't fully kick in this week. I don't want to have to resort to forcing people to sign in or baby sit posts. Please keep it clean.
Out of bounds posts will be deleted as soon as I see them. If they persist, then steps that none of us want will have to be taken to clean it up.
Thanks.

That line of reasoning does not make sense. What has PHS shown so far to be so aweful? I thought we are not counting losses to top teams?

monrovia = dissapointment
st.francis = dissapointment
arcadia = huge improvement
muir = very good team
phs = absolutely god awful!!!

Look,
I'm not gonna hate on Muir. If it makes you feel better then the NY Times Poll can include a / at the two spot. But there is no way a team climbs in the poll after a loss (you sound like Notre Dame fans after that close loss to USC a couple years ago..."Well, if USC is #1 then we must be #2"...) I suppose you want the LA Times to rank you at #22 and certainly not lower than #24 since they have OC at #21. By the way, LA Times also had South Hills ranked #25...

Muir shouldn't drop anything!! They should move up to number one its not like they lost to arcadia here!!! they lost to an LA times top 25 team.

It's also a shame to celebrate a loss that you called against your own team.

Monrovia Fans:

OUCH! I also predicted this win, but not by nearly as much as 42-21. Double OUCH!! Way to go Crutch, you did say earlier this year that you guys would blow Monrovia out and I absolutely did not believe you, especially after that Ayala loss. What happened? Is Duarte that good, or is Monrovia that bad or just too young? Man, I didn't see that coming, and neither did ANY Monrovia fans.

Its one thing to lose to a southern section power by 16 (still ranked 20th in the LA Times), but it's a damn shame to lose to a pretty good SGV team by 21. Triple OUCH!!!

Anyway....can I call'em or can I call'em. I know it's quite childidsh to say "I told you so" but I told you so. This game was NOT an upset, and no one should have ever called it one. Arcadia is a GOOD team, and SF will lose seven games this year (one down six to go.)

Walker is going to do his thing this year and the Pacific league title will go to the winner of the Muir/Arcadia game (Schurr? Burroughs lost to Schurr by 20? Is that true?)

As usual SF was overrated just like I predicted earlier, man I know that game hurts SF fans. Now you've still got to face Los Altos, ND, Loyola, St. Paul, Alemany, and CHaminade. Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm.

Good job Arcadia, way to represent the Pacific League. BTW, NY......are you completely out of your mind? There is NOOOOOOOOO way SF is ranked ahead of Muir. I'll get to our game a little later, but trust me when I tell you we didn't fight back versus OC's scrubs or disinterested starters, were you there? Oh, and OC's scrubs would POP St. Francis if they ever lined it up.

Hey bloggers, it's these types of posts that can potentially put an end to something as cool as this blog. If these posts are written by students, just chill out fellas, there are other ways to exert your pent up frustrations. If it's adults then that's just a damn shame, and you guys need to calm the hell down.

Let's just clean this up so the PSN won't shut this down.

what about the arcadia posts they arent much better

can some one remove these dirty post? SF fans are out of control.

Hey SFKNIGHT.....

Is that how they teach you private school elitists to spell? You superior Catholic POS, go hop in the confessional with your favorite priest and maybe you'll get part of the settlement money. Give Cardinal Mahoney a big kiss for me.

Observantcat,
I usually read quietly from afar, but comments like the one about the coach are negative and counter-productive. Players could read it and lose confidence in their program (especially in a situation with 8th graders deciding whether to go to MHS vs DHS). If you are really motivated, you should organize a committe off-line and go through the appropriate channels. Maybe you can volunteer to help rather than take shots that will likely do more harm than good.

If you need to vent, drop me a line at due_process2007@yahoo.com.

Anon,

SF has a weapon, D. Riley, and I thought he played well, but arcadia had him in check on 3rd downs. He had that nice kick off return and a few nice runs and tackles.

SF will re-group. they are a good team. It feels good to stick it to them. I just our home grown kids stay in Arcadia now after this big win instead of going to SF, Loyola, Amat and La Salle.

My top three are based on the results. Arcadia just beat the former number 1. SF and Muir both lost (in different fashion) to good teams and they both drop one spot. I'm sure things will change as the season progresses.

st.francis is an average team at best ..thats not to take away from arcadia they are a new and improved team ...but still can arcadia beat muir? NO MUIR HELD THEIR OWN AGAINST OAKS CHRISTIAN -5 KEY PLAYERS DO TO ELEGIBILITY

Ricardo Cabasa - I can only hope you know how utterly disgusting your post was. I hope you go away and never return to the blogs - I am sure the St. Francis and Arcadia fans would agree

last nite was Amazing
i lost my voice screaming all 48 minutes
the 07 APACHES r legit

NY Times Ranking:

1. Arcadia - Beat former #1
2. St Francis - Only loss a close game to new #1
3. Muir - Behind SF because I feal SF would be better than OC's mix of backups and non-key starters who were mentally checked out at half.

Monrovia- somehwere behind Arroyo and Duarte until we prove we can beat a legite team. We will have our chance against Arcadia. Hopefully the loss to Duarte is a reality check to drill the little things. Four turnovers leading to 28 points kills.

the real hsfbfan

You are going to need all the help you can when it comes to stopping the run so let's not skipp over your neighbor to Lynwood Play MHS and you'll understand what I am talking about. The Speed Starts Here!

O-cat,

Arcadia plays Lynwood week 3. They are similar to Muir. We'll see.

Ricardo Cabasa,

Your post regarding Saint Francis HS was absolutely classless.

I have many friends that graduated from Arcadia. I'd hate to think that you represent them.

Oaks is very human this year without the likes of Marc Tyler. They are a good team but not half as good as they were last year. But Muir will still be the team to beat in the Pacific league. I think that Until Arcadia plays a team with some speed to prepare for Muir they will not really know their future. Although Monrovia to spanked at Duarte, It found the top Running Back in the SGV (Dwight Smith) Arcadia cannot come into this game with a overly optimistic mindset or they will get man hanldled by this kid. He was the talk of the night after coming in for the injured Maraquise Willams. He is definatly a D1 Prospect and will only get better in time. He's a mix of Youngblood from Muir and LaVelle Peterson from LC 2006. This is turning out to be an interesting year especially for the rebuilding teams. This Monrovia team has the potential to become on of the greatest teams ever placed at MHS, once it starts to clean up the mistakes it has..the talent is definatly their. I dont know about the rest of the MHS Fans but I think Garrison isn't the best fit for Coaching this team. Some of his Play calling you would think has Gambling implications and should be federally investigated. How can you call a punt on 4th and 3 on the opposing teams side of the field, not once but twice...At the point where you have just driven 70 yrds down field with a running back that can break at anytime?...I dont get it. I hope that he sees the bigger picture and allows these guys to play real football, not (It's the right thing to do) Or we will be just like the rest of the squads who dont know how to win. I like Cruthfields coaching philosophy (We have the talent lets use it).. I think the Arcadia game will be a great game. If Kevan Walker is as good as they say then it may be close. But I think that Arcadia will be in for a surprise with the Monrovia running attack. This Kid is Better than Sparks and Davis 2006. And he's just a JR. as is Marquise Williams.

With all due respect Mr. Orozco, that was not a good or truthful article. Did you leave in the second half and call to get the second half info? Our reserves did start the second half, mixed in with our starters. But as Muir fought back our starters were right back in the game, w/ the exception of our qb.
To all Muir players and coaches!!! What a second half of football, you guys played you hearts out. As I sat in the stands ready to watch yet another team roll over in the second half, you guys came out to make a statement. As a true Lions fan I just want to say thank you. We needed that. This will help us vs. St. Bonnies for sure. Our fans were talking about this all night, and I can't tell you the last time we did not score in a half. Thank God the game wasn't ten minutes longer, our guys looked tired and you guys were still fired up! Good luck Muir, I will following your team all year long. Go Lions! Go Muir Mustangs!

If there was "disbelief" on the players' faces, it was simply that they couldn't believe they had lost so many straight games to St. Francis.The players believed all week they could win. There is a quiet confidence among the players. So long as they don't give up the big play , they will do very well this season.

Copied from the other thread:

Congratulations to Arcadia and Duarte. It looks like your programs have made some nice strides during the past year. I owe FrankP a double-double and I'm still trying to take my foot out of my mouth from my comment last night...

are there any good coaches in pasadena besides tip sanders ?

PHS 0-1 , 0-2 , next week 0-3
every body in the pacific league just run up the middle on the dawgs. they cant stop it.

arcadia wont beat MUIR ! ask oak christian

After Alhambra's poor showing and Muir losing, arcadia has to be up there no. 1 or 2, nothing less. This apache team is much better than last year. They look like a bunch of kids who want to play and have fun doing it. Last ywar wasn't apaches ball, and for those who based the apaches on last year was dumb. Anyone that knows arcadia, knows they play with heart and desire.

SF Fans,

Yes, we are for real. You guys played your hearts out but we were the better team. Out coached, Out Played. Walker played excellent, but our defense came up on every key down. Ahmaz showed he could be one of the best powerbacks in the SGV dragging the knights like paper dolls.

Many SF fans left shocked like they got punched in the face. SF had about 90 kids on the sideline, and they couldn't pull it off. Arcadia played ironman ball.

GO APACHES. See you next week Monrovia.

pacific league better watch out for MUIR !
arcadia ? please ! muir's QB reuben thomas is so fast and has a strong arm.
he ran an 70 yard T.D up the middle.
as for stats :

oaks christian
191 yards rushing
171 passing
total : 362

MUIR
199 yards rushing
122 passing
total : 321

look out 0-2 dawgs

this kid walker is the real deal!! i mean i knew he was pretty good but wow! he stunned me tonight....i dont think one team can stop this kid's speed he is a lightning rod out there and his throwing ability is very impressive also. wow the apaches surprised me tonight they should go 10-0 if they play like this every night. im on the bandwagon now lol go apaches