BASEBALL: Who should be No. 1?

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by "pink slip" I meant you own the place...not that crossdressing was involved. Glad I cleared the air on that, my karma could be affected.

SG
I know your objectivity would not be swayed by nachos and a hot dog...it was humor.
The Ramrodders are friendly, welcoming people..but money talks at the concession stand.

Goldenarm, no thanks on the pink slip.

Goldenarm, one thing I forgot to ask about your post, since I haven't been to a Temple City game yet this season, why are you saying I eat for free at their snack bar? I don't eat for free at any snack bar, but I wish I would have known, I would've brought a doggy bag.

SG

An unconventional compliment...apologies on the combover.

Anon 10;10
I chew, scratch and play ball year round. Scott has the pink slip here, he can roll as he pleases.

goldenarm

why do you care so much what scott thinks? Cant you just go out and play ball?

Goldenarm: Am I supposed to take that post as a compliment? Since you're one of the best posters out there, I will. But sheesh. Oh, thanks for the compliment on the hairline, I needed that.

Galetti

I hope you have visited the local cryogenic warehouse - and stored some DNA there. Clearly, replicating you may prove impossible, due to the stew pot of traits pinpointed by recent bloggers.

You are unmotivated, persistent, totally biased,GENTEEL,objective,
misinformed,opinionated,
lackluster,a shadow of Fred and the anti-Christ blogmaster of doom for SF sports.
You are near-sighted, have tunnel vision and when you can see straight you are looking the other way. You downplay, overplay, over-emphasize and underestimate. Your top ten should be inverted and why don't you give small schools equal coverage. You eat for free at the TC snack bar and San Marino has torn up your parking tickets. You post crap too late and interview too robotically,hate track and field and caption photos for crap. Your kevlar skin is thickest near your receding hairline.....and with many innings left to play baseball is not done with you yet.

The CIF baseball rankings are now posted. I can only imagine what kind of comments they'd get.

How about nobody comment on anything and then the blog will go away? I think it is here so people can voice their opinion whether it be negative or positive. When someone has something to say that is against what the writers say it is viewed as crying rather than possibly as the truth. If you comment agree you are beating your chest. It is a no win situation to post on the blog.

It always seems to happen when SF doesn't get the respect that they think they deserve.. You all start crying..You had a problem with TC and and you would have a problem with Alhambra.. The crying needs to stop by all these private school people that are bloging in just so you can stand up for your little boy that does not know how to take criticism SF is what it is and what you have made them out to be a bunch of crying babies when it doesn't go their way.. Start teaching them to deal with it and become men they won't be number one all the time... They will probably not even make the playoffs and than than complaining about the coaching staff will come out again...

Scott,

Last week you made a comment that went something like "If St. Francis is so good why did they only beat TC by a run". That is when people started chiming in.

How do you know how good Rio Mesa is? Did you go to either game? Believe me if Rio Mesa was playing in the RHL they would more than hold their own.

So on the same criteria that St. Francis is being judged against lousy teams like Rio Mesa make sure that when Alhambra sweeps through their league you give them no credit because we all know how poor those teams are.

I am not writing to get everyone to believe that St. Francis is #1 or anything of that nature. I just feel as a writer you have to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. I know at times it is tough but seems like their is a bias towards St. Francis. They play a tight series with undefeated ND and the article reads about how they lost AGAIN. Then they go out to Oxnard and win 2 games that took about 8 hours in huge winds without either of their top two pitchers and all you say is they beat a Rio Mesa team that has lost 6 of 7. If you had been their you would have felt differently about Rio Mesa and certainly about the W's.

Maranatha is a private school. They don't belong in a public school league.

Maybe they could find a more competitive private school league to compete in.

The last thing public schools need is a private school poaching players to play against them in their own league.

Sorry. Your decision to go private. Live with it.

Isn't it time for Maranatha to join the Rio Hondo league in the near future? If that occurred, MHS would be able to demonstrate a stronger case for themselves versus the constant unsupportable calls for respect. The other real benefit is making a 7 team league would add another automatic CIF slot for the RHL for most sports.

KnightFan, St. Francis hasn't dropped in the rankings. In terms of schedule, they had an easy road in the Elks tournament before getting to Temple City. If I don't go by wins and losses in baseball, then I should probably have a private (about five schools?) and the close to 30 or so others in separate rankings. It's not like football, where it's a no-brainer in terms of talent. The St. Francis football team also had a tougher road than its baseball team does out of league. I don't have dislike for St. Francis, but teams should be able to throw in a league win or two. I put in the remarks about Rio Mesa because someone mentioned the double-header wins as getting back on track. Rio Mesa is not a strong team this year, pure and simple. At least not as strong as in past years. I posted a question, who should be No. 1, and if it's St. Francis, why? And in terms of 2 runs losses, 1, 2, 10 runs, a loss is a loss. Temple City lost to you by 1 run in 8 innings, but posters from St. Francis treated that as a fluke. You can't have it both ways.

Exactly...you reconstruct the inning without the past balls/errors and that determines earned runs. All 3 runs were unearned as runners both advanced, and scored on past balls. 3 outs would have been made without the past balls/error thus leading to a 0.00 era.

Regarding St. Francis the reality is they would beat the majority of teams in this top ten on a consistant basis so again it comes down to how rankings are factored.

Poly beat Maranatha and both teams are rebuilding, but the fact is Poly won. Enough with the could've should've would've's.

I'm obviously a Maranatha supporter, but good baseball is good baseball and Maranatha did not play very good on Saturday. I like good baseball. They have a good team and will be solid in the playoffs..if Poly and Maranatha match up in the playoffs I like the Minutemen and thier chances. Maranatha can, and should be a top ten team, but they need consistancy like many of these teams are searching for. It is early in the season and after Spring Break the true top ten will emerge when teams are starting to peak.

I still like what one person said about having a top 10 (or 12) tournament. Do it on Saturdays for 5 weeks. That would be interesting.

Good luck to all the area teams, top ten or not.

The easiest way to remember is that the pitcher is responsible for any runs that score because of what he does in his role as a pitcher. Thus, not only hits and walks but also hit batters, wild pitches and balks are the pitcher's responsiblity and the runs that result are earned.

If a run scores because of a passed ball or a fielding error, it's beyond the pitcher's control, so the run is unearned. When thinking this way, remeber that a pitcher's own fielding errors aren't held against him, as they're not committed in his role as a pitcher.

As far as the 0.00 ERA for Covey, There were 6 past balls in those innings. Every run scored was a on a passed ball. Should those be scored as earned rus?

SP could get it done in the RHL.

Covey does not have a 0.00 ERA. He started the first game against Rowland and went 3 IP gave up a run in the 1st and 2 in the 3rd. Maranatha committed 1 error in the game. He has to have an ERA.

Scott I will first say that I have no problem with your rankings at the moment. I understand that St. Francis lost a couple close games to an undefeated ND team and you had to drop them. That makes sense. What I don't understand is why you give them no credit for their W's. They beat a tough Rio Mesa team. I saw the games and believe me if they were out here they would give every Rio Hondo League team fits. You have to give them credit for their W's.

How are you going to judge Alhambra the rest of the season because they are about to go into league against teams that are 8-20-1 combined and have been outscored 76 to 240. 76 to 240? Come on. Based on the way you dish credit for W's then Alhambra should get zero the rest of the way yet you will tout them all the way through their undefeated Miramonte schedule. St. Francis is playing against teams that are 30-16 so far. The bottom line is St. Francis would run the table in the Miramonte League and Alhambra would struggle mightly in the Mission Leauge yet you will continue to downplay what St. Francis does and go wild over Alhambra. Alhambra is a quality team without question but it is very similar to college football and the mid-majors. You can't rank Bowling Green #1 because they beat everyone in their league. They have to have some quality wins. It is like the RPI in college basketball. You aren't going to give a team in the 100's the #1 seat when their strength of schedule is near the bottom.

Scott quit looking ONLY at the teams records and start paying attention to who they play. Also start paying attention to who they lose to. A couple of 2 run losses to an undefeated team is nothing to be ashamed of especially when their was a total of 8 runs scored in the 2 games combined.

Here are two other #1's to think about....

Guy D'Auria from Pasadena who is #1 in W-L%, one of only two pitchers in the state with a 4-0 record so far (pitching for PHS even... figure that?) and posting a .737 ERA.

...and...

Dylan Covey from Maranatha who is also a #1 in the state, pitching 19 innings with a 0.00 ERA, and 35 K's (4th in state)

It's a bit early, but here are a couple of guys to keep an eye on for sure.

SF should be out of the top 10 they wont make the playoffs just like last year.

why do you preface rio mesa's record, while not prefacing notre dame's record who St. Francis lost to?

here we go again, scott
BIASED.

Since Poly beat another top 10 team, Maranatha, they should atleast retain their #9 ranking if not move up.

haha the guy below me is for sure a south pas fan

I THINK THE RIO HONDO LEAGUE IS BATTLING IT OUT FOR THE NUMBER ONE SPOT WITH MONROVIA,SOUTH PASADENA,AND TEMPLE CITY ON TOP

Perhaps we should put this in some context. Scott is correct in that Rio Mesa has lost 6 of their last 7 games to teams with a 26-12 (68%) record.

Monrovia has played teams with a 19-28 (40%) losing record and Alhambra opponents are 16-24 (40%) and have been outscored by 96 runs.

St. Francis has played teams who are 30-21 (59%).

Against common opponents with Monrovia, St. Francis beat La Salle 7-3, which beat Monrovia 5-2. St. Francis beat Cantwell-Sacred Heart 8-2 and Monrovia beat Cantwell 2-1.

One could go on to state similar facts for the other teams on the top 10 from last week or the suggested top 10 from the earlier post. Continue to challenge yourself against better competition and your team will improve. Berating other teams is unwarranted when viewing these teams with any degree of objectivity.

1. Monrovia
2. Alhambra
3. St. Francis
4. Temple City
5. San Marino
6. Gabrielino
7. La Canada
8. Duarte
9. South Pasadena
10. Arroyo