Star-News Football Top 10 dilemma

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Yo GA,
My final word on game....sloppy is right!
But if the moors don't drop those 4-5 int's
Score could have been 35-10....but coulda woulda shoulda!
Floating wounded duck???
Come on now Golden give a lil credit to Cazzarin he was gettin blasted and still stood in there and made plays when he had to.He threw for almost 200yds and Crockum had 147yds and 7 catches thats like 20yd avg. not to mention double covered with safety's 25 yds deep.
The way I see it the Moors were a more physical team,and the speed factor made the differece.But hey what the hell do I know!

My final word on the TC/Alhambra game. Anyone who saw the game and knows fball will tell you neither team was particularly impressive. It was a mental mistake filled, penalty plagued, over-reffed game where slop exceeded precision and play calling/game strategy went down the tube and out the door early.

In other words, an early season contest that both players and coaches should be able to learn from and build upon. The victor was decided in the final 2 minutes following a 4th down floating, wounded duck completion to a very good athlete, well covered.

If a "W" is the sole deciding factor on who sports a better team, then that team is Alhambra. A "W" is usually the tool of measurement, sometimes accompanied by strength of schedule, etc. In this case, this early, Alhambra did what they needed to do, TC did not.

The kids are over it and working hard on a better showing this Friday night. That is exactly what I am expecting to see.

If we are willing to give new coaches the benefit of the doubt (although the clocks are ticking), how long do we give the new reporter the benefit of the doubt?

I love Miguel's energy and his willingness to spread the love and cover multiple programs. And maybe Miguel sees something that others don't, but I just wish Miguel would give more support for his rankings with TC and Alhambra.

Yo Burbanksports-
They must have some sorta money promo going on,your right! These paper guys got this love affair with SG
and it blow's my mind.Especially when Miguel claims
that it will be a breeze now for the midget matadors
since they played and got whoooooped by these D1 teams!
Too bad there not D1 teams, i think there d5 or d6 but who cares.These paper guys are so disrespectful towards all the surrounding talent we got from SGV area kids.
Don't worry their money will run out soon and the Mats will fade like the dust in the wind.....ha ha!

Is the Star News running some special promotional deal in San Gabriel?
San Gabriel "saw speed, size and athleticism, something that'll likely go unmatched the rest of the season or even come playoffs." Are you kidding? Have you seen the other teams in the Southeast Div? San Gabriel might beat Hoover in the Pacific. I guess that Burbank is a team to fear come playoff time since they played Torrance and got pounded by that #4 ranked team from Serra's Division. With Miguel's rationale...Burroughs will be unstoppable since they beat Schurr and Schurr will lose to San Gabriel.
Stang fans...you'd better replace OC with SG in the future. The Matadors are the new measuring stick.

Stang Fan,

I don't think there is any question right now that Muir's program is better than Monrovia's. The records speak for themselves. I truly beleive that Monrovia can build one of the top lower/mid level programs in the southern section, but that would be about five years from now. That is not to say that we can not be very good much earlier (one week, one month or one or two years from now has yet to be shown). Building a top program takes time to establish successful norms. Putting together a winning season and not committing silly turnovers and mental mistakes, though, should happen immediately even if we did lose a handful of impact players.

Thanks for the support. I look forward to our eventual re-match. Good luck to Muir as well.

Yo New York,
I'm asking myself the same question...
actually what boggles my mind even more
is that Miguel ranks SG #8 two spots ahead of AHS
and they are 1-2??? He's giving them MORAL VICTORY credit
What a joke...what's even crazier is that when SG loses
To TC on friday night, wich will make them 1-3, he will still manage to come up with some excuse for them
to still be ranked.UNBELIEVABLE!

Miquel,

Are you really ranking TC ahead of Alhambra, even though they each have the same record AND Alhambra JUST beat TC a few days ago?

No use crying over spilt milk. I hope those kids find a home wherever they end up.

Monrovia will get there eventually, one way or another.

Every week I expect good things from M-town, and every week those expectations are shot down. A part of me wants to say, "What the hell is Maddox doing?" But I have to remind myself what the Cats lost.

Btw, M-town fans, you guys do an EXCELLENT job of not playing the woulda-coulda-shoulda card. You guys are WAY better than me...I'm telling you, I don't think I would have handled that as graciously as most of you. Hell, it KILLS me that these Pasadena kids go to all the other schools. Props to you guys for not "going there." I enjoyed our back and forth banter about which was the better program and I can't wait to kick that argument off once again.

GOod luck Cats.

@ the real hsfbfan said:
O-cat,

Once again, you have showed that you are a brilliant fellow. We all know you hate arcadia with a passion but to say SM or TC is better is completely off. Arcadia plays pre-league games against two teams in the Western III. The arcadia/monrovia game wasn't a fluke, if it was then arcadia/st.francis was too. Stop making excuses. Arcadia beat you all TWO YEARS in a row.

Here's the result of Lynwoods first 2 games.

Harvard-Westlake Tied, 21-21
Centennial Won, 36-6

Lynwood is comparable to a Muir, but probably better. They have more size.

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I would call that statement Malarkey! Pure Malarkey. Which Centennial? If its Compton, then please go fly a kite in a thunderstorm for that statement. LYNWOOD is not better than Muir in a form or fashion. Come on, they tied with Harvard-Westlake, we would get that W in that situation. That was a nice statement to boost the Arcadia fans morale. I think Arcadia was overrated in preseason, and will continue to prove that to be fact.

O-cat,

Thropay not playing this season is unreal. He got on the high school tour bus - that just happened to end up on the The Bridge to Nowhere. Deciding whether to stay or go is always a risk...greener grass, better prospects...once again it shows there are no guarantees either way. In the end, would staying at M-town been better, staying at Amat been better, who knows?? Hindsight is always a serious ass-kicker. Personally I would have liked seeing his spirals in the SGV night air, even as a cross-town opponent.

Lynwood COULD NOT beat Muir this year. NO WAY....

Mig,

You are doing well this rookie season. I admire and appericate your prep coverage. Keep up the excellent work.

So you play a team you are supposed to beat and you blow them out with 3 quarters of your second string and you drop in the ranking? Guess who i'm talkin about.

The fact of the matter is that Monrovia and Arcadia are both down this year. They were especially down in the first game. I feel that Monrovia has more upside throughout the season than Arcadia, because Arcadia's program is already as established as it will be while Monrovia's is seemingly in its infancy. I had a feeling Arcadia would get blown out by SF based on Arcadia's performance against a confused and out of shape Monrovia squad. I could not figure out why they kept wanting to run Golper to the outside. If I had Golper, I would pound the crap out of the D by having him run downhill.

O-Cat, losing to Arcadia was not a fluke. You can't spot a team that many points and expect to win.

Duarte held Monrovia to fewer points than Arcadia and Rosemead did. I found that pretty interesting.

What's up with Monrovia? Rosemead scored more against us WITHOUT their star player than they did WITH him.

The good news is that we have a lot of potential and will eventually gel.

therealhsfb fan:

I dont hate Arcadia, I am just trying to call it as I see it. In realtime this isn't the moment to say that Arcadia should be number 4. As far as the game being fluke look at the stats?....I think both teams played way below what was expected and it showed, Arcadia picked up on the mistakes in a much bigger way. I think you guys are relying on Golper Way too much and that will eventually make you a weaker team. I feel that same about Monrovia and Williams. With half of Monrovias starting line-up over at Charter Oaks It's a Wonder they could survive any pre-season games. I just want to give credit where credit is due. On paper San Marino Looks way better than Arcadia looks regarless of it's opponent's. But back to Miguel, go with your best thoughts about what you see and write for that matter. We're entering into week three...look into that crystal ball and tell me what you see in this area.

By the Way Goldenarm:

Those Players from Monrovia are making a pretty good impact over at Charter Oaks..That Coach was smart enough to put both Yougblood and Golden in their backfield and both are making a solid impression. Thropay is not going to to take any snaps this year but he's only a sophmore and he will take the helm next year for CO...I hope this does'nt send any more of our players running east. The Monrovia JV squad Looks very solid this year and so do the freshman for that matter.

C'mon Miguel, show some huevos and make a decision on your top ten and stick to it. Don't let the blogs influence you. Be your own man! From what I have heard you're not making too many friends among the area coaches, why worry about what the people who post on your blogs are going to say. Or is it a case of you haven't really done your homework and can't make an educated decision on who should be in the top ten?

FYI, that was me below. I'm working out of West Covina today using someone's computer.

I've heard some stuff whether Golper is playing but when I get it confirmed I'll let you guys know. At this point, I'd probably switch my pick and give it to Lynwood.

O-cat,

Once again, you have showed that you are a brilliant fellow. We all know you hate arcadia with a passion but to say SM or TC is better is completely off. Arcadia plays pre-league games against two teams in the Western III. The arcadia/monrovia game wasn't a fluke, if it was then arcadia/st.francis was too. Stop making excuses. Arcadia beat you all TWO YEARS in a row.

Here's the result of Lynwoods first 2 games.

Harvard-Westlake Tied, 21-21
Centennial Won, 36-6

Lynwood is comparable to a Muir, but probably better. They have more size.

O-cat,

Arcadia not better than San Marino? Until they beat someone good or even play someone good for that matter, I have no reason to believe that they would come close to Arcadia on a football field. They do beat them in test scores though.

Monrovia is just doesn't have that "it" factor yet. Once they get it all together, they are going to be very good. It's going to take a little time.

Miguel,

Is Golper playing this week? If he's not...Lynwood is too good of a squad. Arcadia goes down this week IMO.

My bad Miguel..I meant to compare some of the stats of the teams like Arcadia to that of some of the teams that they will be facing in the near future...Like right now I dont think that Arcadia could beat San Marino Or TC....and like I said earlier about Monrovia (That Game was A Fluke)...I dont think they would score against Rosemead,,do you? So as for #4 that sure makes the other teams in this area look like Pop Warner teams.

You really want to compare strength of schedule? Arcadia visits Lynwood on Friday. Who does San Marino have, Hoover?! Uh...talk about strength of schedule. Titans are good but my vote for stronger schedule between the two goes to Arcadia.

Miguel:

I would start with the number 4 spot, Arcadia does not belong in the top 8, from there I would evalute the level of schedual strength and go from their. Monrovia, TC, and San Marino would be very good candidates for the 4th, 5th, 6th spots. I really believe that the Monrovia/Arcadia game was a complete fluke. More give-aways than pure hard earned scores. The real battle is to see who becomes more capable of winning their league games, pre-season has been somewhat decietful so far. I know you still like SG for some odd reason but teams like that are not in it this year for the post season. In the Pacific league it looks like so far John Muir and John Burroughs have all but wraped it up for first and second. In the RHL I still think that Monrovia has the best chance to take the league and go into the post season fired up and surprise some post season playoff teams. TC will eventualy get tested on both sides of the ball and San Marino has come out the gates pretty strong but to weaker opponents, their last years teams is hands down better than this years squad Mooney or no Mooney. I have always thought that Alhambra was not going to be good as previously thought, having an all american wide reciever is only a fraction of what makes an offense explosive. 1 or 2 1000yrd rushers would compliment his game tremendously. LaSalle is struggling this year from their running game and their offensive line. although they play with great discipline and consistancy they only have a couple of real impact players to do it with. So Miguel time to rethink some of your top 5 and the rest is simply a toss-up.

Miguel:

I would start with the number 4 spot, Arcadia does not belong in the top 8, from there I would evalute the level of schedual strength and go from their. Monrovia, TC, and San Marino would be very good candidates for the 4th, 5th, 6th spots. I really believe that the Monrovia/Arcadia game was a complete fluke. More give-aways than pure hard earned scores. The real battle is to see who becomes more capable of winning their league games, pre-season has been somewhat decietful so far. I know you still like SG for some odd reason but teams like that are not in it this year for the post season. In the Pacific league it looks like so far John Muir and John Burroughs have all but wraped it up for first and second. In the RHL I still think that Monrovia has the best chance to take the league and go into the post season fired up and surprise some post season playoff teams. TC will eventualy get tested on both sides of the ball and San Marino has come out the gates pretty strong but to weaker opponents, their last years teams is hands down better than this years squad Mooney or no Mooney. I have always thought that Alhambra was not going to be good as previously thought, having an all american wide reciever is only a fraction of what makes an offense explosive. 1 or 2 1000yrd rushers would compliment his game tremendously. LaSalle is struggling this year from their running game and their offensive line. although they play with great discipline and consistancy they only have a couple of real impact players to do it with. So Miguel time to rethink some of your top 5 and the rest is simply a toss-up.

It seems to me that the best way to do it is leave as is, with the exception of San Marino and TC swapping spots. No?

Miquel,

Leave your top 5 and blank the rest as TBD.
Don't stress, it will shake out this Friday.