Softball: Mayfield moves up a few spots in latest poll

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fsha 1
harvard westlake 0

Arcadia looked pretty good against CV. Sophmore Angie Possemato looked fantastic in the circle and Morgan Barchan, who I heard set the Arcadia season record for triples is having another solid season. Lookfor them to crack the Top 10.

first- i dont know who area fan is

two- it was a great game to watch either way

ahs fan (you must be related to "area fan"),

At first my statement to you was going to be: this is softball, not horseshoes ... close doesn't really count.

However, then for giggles I thought I'd check the line score of the game ... how is a 4 to "nothing" 2-hitter a "very good showing.

Sorry, but all fact and logic eludes both "fans". You must be the same parents that fights for trophies for the last place teams in Rec. Ball too.

Hopefully you will give Arcadia another look at the top 10 with their very strong showing against Crescenta Valley.

Apparently, the win by FSHA over Alemany has been nullified, and the game will be replayed, due to a protest by Alemany. (Reported by glendalenewspress.com (oops, can I say that?)) The protest concerned the pitching rubber being at college distance instead of high school distance. Not clear why they couldn't just move the rubber on the spot, instead of playing the whole game under protest, since the protest was filed before the first pitch.

Tsk tsk tsk... Sticks and stones may break my bones but you have NO IDEA where my allegiance lies.

Does the truth sting that bad ?... To the point where you have to attack poor little' ol me under multiple aliases? And why do you attack Maranantha whenever I post? You are so off base and you come off as some silly over zealous parent! What is it with you!Did your kid not get accepted?Or more likely they beat your kids team (again)! I just may have to take in another Maranantha game to see why you are so worried about them!

Focus on your own team and quit worrying that your kid isn't getting all the alcolades. Life is too short.

Please don't blame Maranatha for "area fan". You are right, he is a total idiot who has some wierd issue with Sacred Heart or some petty jealousy for their very good pitcher. He is either a rouge parent who shouldn't be associate with the classy folks at Maranatha, or he's some former Arcadia person who tries to live in yestur-year and he feels the need to carry the torch for a former player. Wouldn't be so bad but instead of recognizing the true greatness of a very special and accomplished player, instead he tries to discredit and he's always factually shown to be totally ignorant. He either disappears for a while or he comes back with some ridiculous, "your mother wears army boots" statement. Whatever the case, it is very sad and I agree with the earlier poster, he should be called "Loser", he is no "area fan".

my mistake:

Bishop Amat did not go on to play Chaminade in the CIF championship game. But the year before that Alemany lost in the third round to Warren who was later defeated my Chaminade in the championship round. Nonetheless, that doesn't change the fact that these two teams are consistently solid and FSHA deserves all the credit in the world. Sorry they are taking attention away from Maranatha ;)

Area Fan,

I agree with the first anonymous; you never cease to show your ignorance. Chaminade was back to back CIF champions in 2006 and 2007. Last year Alemany made it to the third round of CIF playoffs where they lost 1-0 to Bishop Amat, who was the CIF runner up the year before to Chaminade.

Bottom line, these two team would rip you precious Maranatha apart. The fact that Maranatha may have a better record than them is meaningless. Look at the teams that Alemany and Chaminade have lost to, Hart (with UCLA bound pitcher, Destiny Rodino and Oklahoma bound Jessica Shultz), Kennedy, Granada Hills, Cajon, Royal, Pacifica, Chatsworth, and El Camino. You probably have never heard of some of these teams because they are frankly on a completely different level than what you are used to seeing.

You need to get over it and accept the fact that Flintridge Sacred Heart is beating some extremely difficult competition, END OF DISCUSSION.

area fan,

My wins?

Alemeny and Chaminade are consistently in the top10 in CIF D3. I will get back to you on their playoff history. But I do know that they are usually perenial winners of that league, and they have really cool names.

It is a different FSH team this year for sure, and it looks like that whole team is playing, which was going to be necessary for FSH and a tribute to Ferri as well as a leader.

Gosh, this "area fan" never ceases to show their absolute ignorance! Loser!

Chek:

What is so big about your wins over Alemany and/or Chaminade? They have a combined record of something like 18 and 15?? Has either school ever done anything in the playoffs?

lets get it done

Point taken on class issue, maybe Pasadena Star News can host a preseason or spring break tournament the way LA Daily News use to do for City and Valley SS teams. PS News can match up the teams that they cover on a regular basis.

rocky, just to be clear i never said anything about anybody being of a different class. what i said is that teams who challenge themselves with a tough schedule should be judged on a different scale than those who do not. big difference.it would be nice to see some of the almont teams play a few more teams from our area.

Anonymous,
"creative writing" you hit the nail on the head.

Almont League:
Mark Keppel- 10
Montebello- 6

Alhambra - 6
Schurr - 2

SJC sorry, it was a typo.

Instead of saying "I didn't see you the LC - VC games", I meant to type, "I didn't see the LC - VC games". I wasn't accusing you of not being there (I was trying to say I wasn't there).

On the error or not, it wasn't clear in your original statement that the ball was "misfielded" when you originally said that it was "left in the dirt". Misfielded typically would be an error, and "left in dirt would typically be a hit.

Not my intent to say that LC is one of these teams, but there are a few particular ones that view Maxpreps.com as a creative writing exercise.

FSHA 12
Louisville 2

We can go on and on about which teams are better, but it needs to be said that there is some good, fun, and competitive softball being played out there. I am an Alhambra "homer", although we lost to Keppel, kudos needs to be given to the girls for a great game (1-0 going into the last inning). Keppel had no hitter broken up in last at bat.

Lastly, I know for a fact that both teams have girls that play on competitive travel ball teams. So I am sure they would be up for playing anybody in the top ten, even if they are in a different class.

Anonymous, Given that I have no idea who you are, I have no idea how you didn't see me. I sit in the same place every game. Heck, I'm at the field every day.

As for the ball "left in the dirt", it was an error, it was mishandled.

chky, I hear you, scrimmages don't count (however, although scrimmage scores don't count, some coaches do care about outcomes which makes them somewhat worthy of some discussion). But, in the Lasalle - Sacred Heart scrimmage, Sacred Heart I think pitched a freshman, not their ace pitcher and it was still a 0 - 0 tie.

incognito, your statement that the 2nd Lasalle - Sacred Heart game was a "nail biter" seems to imply it was something less than a clear cut Sacred Heart win. If that's not what you are inplying, my apologies, but I disagree. Also, why wouldn't you describe their first game as a "nail biter". I would describe a game with:

few hits and runs for either team,

that went a couple of extra tie breaker innings, and

ended on an umpires judgement (on an appeal that came from the stands) in the last tie breaker inning that a the Sacred Heart baserunner from 3rd left early ...

That to me is far more the nail biter and less decisive a win.

Regaredless, both Lasalle and Sacred Heart are great teams ... in my opinion the 2 best in the area.

SJC, I didn't see you the LC - VC games but were you saying that the ball "left in the dirt" was not fielded. If it wasn't fielded, or a play attempted, that is a hit.

There are quite a few games to play for both of these teams.

I only included the scrimmage in the spirit of full disclosure, lest some observor pillory me for trying to skew the facts to support one or other team. The point is that in two meetings La Salle and FSHA have one game each.

Scrimmages do not count, at all... not even for discussion, because they are designed to be without a kept score, so that coaches do not care about the score when they try things. Otherwise they would be played differently.

point of order. FSHA has played La Salle twice and scrimmaged once. La Salle won the first matchup on 3/10 but lost the rematch on 3/25. They tied in the scrimmage.

Point of order. FSHA played La Salle twice. They lost the first game in the Duarte tournament on 3/10 but beat them in a nail biter on 3/25. The teams tied when they scrimmaged at Temple city High School.

Today should be one of the few tests that Keppel has this year in Montebello. Montebello is a team with limited talent but they are well coached. This should be one of the few teams that should say whether or not Keppel belongs. In my opinion if you have a very weak schedule, you have to be judged by the few tough ones that you have, not by the double digit wins over weak teams. That is because there are several teams that they are judged against that do nothing but play good teams. Those teams need to be judged on a different scale. And so far,Keppel has lost to all of the decent teams that they have played. (And at this point I do not put Alhambra in that category; with the teams that they have lost to.)

Good Luck Keppel!

Area Fan,

Sorry, to answer your question regarding game # 2, It was # 17 - Emily Seidel. Good movement, nice variety of velocity and location.

Area Fan,

Village claimed 4 hits - there were 3. I'm guessing they called the ball put into play back at the pitcher where it was left in the dirt as a hit. It wasn't - I can assure you as we talked about it on the way home. :-)

Regardless, LC was the home team and kept the official book. Nonetheless, a good game and matchup.

Area Fan,

Where FSH lost ground early in the season with head to head, they have gained ground by having very tough opponents on the schedule and beating Chaminade and Alemany and they have not since lost focus and lost to teams that they shouldn't be losing to.

So do you think that head to head and tough schedules shouldn't be worth anything?

Since the Torrance area teams went to D4, D5 is much weaker. Several of the "Christian" teams are very overrated, including Woodcrest Christian, their pitcher has gotten beaten up on several occasions, but they seem to have Riverside Christian's number and that is big with CIF. That doesn't mean it wasn't a big win for Maranantha, it just shows you how inconsistent Maranantha has been. Village Christian's pitcher has been shutting everyone down. She has a .23 ERA. She is a senior who has been around for a while. So its not a surprise that LC didn't hit her. Some of the RHL teams should be able to compete with these teams in CIF. It will be a race to see which three will get a shot. Over the last few years it has been the Norths, the El Segundos, and the Torrances that have knocked the RHL teams off (though not exclusively) and these teams had dominated CIF in D5.

The teams that I was mostly focusing on in the polls were the Keppells and the Alhambras that really play very few high level opponents that challenge their record. CIF falls under this spell as well, so what can you do about it. Schedule easier teams to build up your record? If its rewarded, people will do it.

Tough Call,

I knew it was only a matter of time until San Marino threw a wrench into the system.

TC 4 - So Pas 1

Mario was there and I think he saw an exciting game, We'll see what he thought.

And MaxPrep says San Marino 4 - Monrovia 1

Good call chyk. Rio Hondo gets more interesting every game.

SJC:

Nice honest post. (How refreshing!) Two tough losses to a very good team...Maxpreps states Village had FOUR hits in game one and 12 hits in game 2 while LC had only ONE hit in game 1 and 2 hits in game 2? Who pitched for Village in the second game?

You should come out of that double header a better team?

I bet a RHL team will see Village again in the playoffs. Any suggestions?

So Fuluvyerself...

If we are to follow your reasoning... FSH lost to BOTH La Salle (13 wins) AND Maranantha (the same Maranantha that mercied the CIF D5 #1 ranked Woodcrest Christian) so therefore...?

Come on.Don't hate!

tologs are actually 13 and 2.

La Canada lost two to a very talented and CIF #3 ranked Village Christian. Game 1 was a 2-1 loss with LC tossing a three hitter. No team has given up fewer hits to Village this year, though Highland did match that mark.

Game 2 was a 4-1 loss.

Both VC's pitchers did a great job and the bottom line is we lost.

Why's that?

Miguel,

You may want to oversee the tough competition and head to head part of it.

not complaining...just sayin'

Our very own Mario Aguirre will be covering the TC-SP game for us. I'll be covering Monrovia at SM baseball.

Also... today is TC vs SP. By the way Miguel, these games can get pretty wild and they are usually are pretty well attended games. You might want to check it out. Its in SP.
And in other Rio Hondo action... Monrovia @ San Marino. Also, by the way, San Marino is no push over this year. Both games are worth attending, but I think the TC vs SP game will have the bigger crowd.

Yea, the rankings should come out Monday but that would mean we the writers would have to work Sunday and that's just not going to happen. Scores through the weekend do count and yes, losses/wins against tough opponents should be taken in consideration.

That makes a little more sense. This list should have been put out on Monday, right?
Do the weekend scores count? Was it the teams' faults for not reporting?

The level of competition that teams are beating or losing to should also be accounted for on some level as well as head to head competition. Wouldn't you agree?

Chky, I don't do the softball rankings, Keith Lair does. It should be noted that rankings are through last week and this week's games don't count on the rankings. Same goes with baseball, which I rank.

Miguel,(I thought you were doing softball now)

The top three are right, but from there you have really made it a guessing game. Please look at some of the teams that some of these teams are beating. Double digit wins usually mean terrible opponents.

Otherwise, I would say a pretty good job for never seeing these teams play or checking maxpreps before you posted them..

Alhambra has won six games in a row except for the game they lost yesterday. Ramona Convent was 8-0 until they lost yesterday. Did you happen to notice that Maranantha lost to both Mayfield and South Pas? LaCanada was 9-3 until they lost two and they became 9-5. Did you happen to notice that Monrovia lost three in a row including one to Poly?

Also, I should point out that some of these teams are in a completely different classes than who you have them ranked above.

Bad, bad, bad...but we are used to it.

Maranatha has a big game at Marymount Tuesday.