Football: The top 5 returning quarterbacks in the WSGV

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THIS JUST IN: Got word that Alhambra's Mitchell Crockom was officially offered a scholarship this morning by New Mexico State coach DeWayne Walker. Other schools have expressed interest in Crockom, including Oregon, Arizona State and Colorado.

I was watching Seinfield last night when for whatever reason I started thinking of the best quarterbacks to watch this upcoming season. Don't ask why but sometimes we reporters get the best ideas at the strangest times, believe me. One time while at The Register I was working on a feature. My roommate, also a sportswriter at the L.A. Daily News, was working on a feature, too. We couldn't come up with anything so we went jogging at the park. By our second lap an idea hit him and he took off back to our apartment to start his feature. I kept jogging but eventually the ideas started rolling and cut the workout short, went back to write my Milton Bradley feature. Anyway, I wanted to put together a top 10 list of the top returning quarterbacks in the West San Gabriel Valley, but frankly there just isn't that kind of talent this season. Gone is Matt Schilz (Bowling Green) and Chase Rettig (transferred to San Clemente), two guys that annually battled for the list's top spots. So we'll limit the list to the top 5 and make it a good one. Without further adieu, here is the first list for you hungry-football freaks, the top 5 returning QB's in the West San Gabriel Valley.

1. ISAAC VALDEZ, SAN GABRIEL, SENIOR-TO-BE

QUICK LOOK: Valdez completed almost 64 percent of his passes. He was the Star-News' first team All-Area quarterback after throwing for 2,754 yards and 16 touchdowns. The 5-foot-7 Valdez displayed his speed as well, rushing for nearly 700 yards and six touchdowns.

MY TAKE: Imagine the college scouts all over San Gabriel High if Valdez was 6-foot-3?!?! Heck, he'd like to be at least 5-foot-10, Valdez said to me once during the All-Area photo shoot. Nonetheless, Valdez has shown he has a rocket of an arm, each year improving on yards passing. He's not elusive but he is quick, making him a true threat for the Matadors which already boast a talented backfield. San Gabriel finished 5-6 overall and were ousted in the first round of the CIF-Southern Section playoffs, but you have to remember injuries plagued San Gabriel with the loss of Marcos Villalobos, who wasn't the same after separating his shoulder in the Alhambra game. Things are looking up for the Matadors. Keep an eye out on their offensive line. They won't exactly match Temple City's studs, but they'll be up there, meaning Valdez could have an even better season come Fall.

2. NICK BUENO, MONROVIA, JUNIOR-TO-BE

QUICK LOOK: Bueno completed 55 percent of his passes and threw for 1,037 yards and had 10 touchdowns with just three interceptions. He rushed for 221 yards and three touchdowns as well. Bueno was instrumental in leading the Wildcats to the semifinals of the CIF-Southern Section Mid-Valley Division playoffs. Bueno also led Monrovia to a Rio Hondo League championship after an impressive 5-0 record in league.

MY TAKE: Bueno was thrown to the fire and the kid didn't disappoint. Monrovia took some bumps and bruises in mastering the Wing-T offense and though Marquis Williams was a big part of the offense's success, it was Bueno's dependability that grew as the season progressed, allowing the Wing-T offense to be effectively executed. Monrovia's one dimensional offense evolved when Bueno was given more responsibility. He's not quick but he is patient and mastered his way into finding options even when the pocket sometimes collapsed. Look for Bueno to have more responsibility in the offense with the absence of Marquis.

3. JARRON WILLIAMS, MUIR, SENIOR-TO-BE

QUICK LOOK: Williams emerged as the team's quarterback after Muir lost key players in the backfield, moving Reuben Thomas from quarterback to Mr. Everything, particularly at running back. Williams threw for 1,599 yards and 15 touchdowns with only three interceptions. He also rushed for three touchdowns. Williams led Muir to a 9-2 record and another Pacific League title.

MY TAKE: Though the Mustangs lost to Diamond Ranch in the first round of the Southeast Division playoffs, it was Williams who fueled a frantic rally in the final minutes of the game. Williams doesn't have the speed or elusiveness that Thomas had but in Williams the Mustangs have a patient, subtle leader that can inspire teammates with his actions on the field. It took a while for Williams to get used to the pressure in the backfield but as the season progressed he became more comfortable throwing on the run. Williams could have a breakout season if in fact Muir has a stout offensive line like coach Kenny Howard claims.

4. DARRIAN CAZARIN, ALHAMBRA, SENIOR-TO-BE

QUICK LOOK: Cazarin threw for 2,209 yards and 24 touchdowns. The lone downside was he threw for 12 interceptions. Despite having a talented quarterback and true threats at wide receiver with Mitchell Crockom and Vailele Peko, the Moors had a sub.500 record and missed the playoffs.

MY TAKE: Cazarin no doubt is talented but he needs to implement the run in order to give Alhambra another much-needed dimension. And if the Moors have a talented Crockom playing they need to find him more than they did last season. For someone ranging 6-feet-3 one would think Crockom would get a lot more touches. Still, that wasn't the Moors problem last season. They had no rushing game whatsoever, not until the final two games of the season when they discovered Daniel Imaa. If Cazarin can limit the turnovers and find a way to connect more often with the talented Crockom, expect the Moors to make a return to the playoffs, albeit as the league's No. 2 representative behind San Gabriel.

5. GARRETT TUCK, ARCADIA, SENIOR-TO-BE

QUICK LOOK: Tuck completed 1,598 yards and threw for 15 touchdowns and had 18 interceptions. The Apaches didn't have the best season once Todd Golper went down with an injury, meaning the Apaches were suddenly had to rely on Tuck to carry the offense.

MY TAKE: Coach Jon Dimalante said they expect big things from Tuck, and so do I. When a team like Arcadia has a player like Golper, you hand him the rock. Unfortunately for the Apaches, Golper went down along with much of the Apaches' offense. But Tuck showed his resilience and didn't falter despite the turnovers. Arcadia is scheduled to participate in several passing tournaments which will prove beneficial for a guy like Tuck who knows he'll have a bigger role in the offense as the season approaches.

OTHERS: Conor Bednarski (South Pasadena); Rocky Moore (La Canada);

Coming soon: The top 5 running backs and wide receivers. But don't wait for me, start your own list in the latest Star-Jibber thread.

94 Comments

desert rat said:

To Golden Arm:

I can't wait to see all of you again. We'll be out in full force.

desert rat said:

To Golden Arm:

I can't wait to see all of you again. We'll be out in full force.

rio hondo fan said:

i would like to see top 10 defensive players returning this year. especially the db's. steven yortsos & dujawn jones (even though he dropped an interception at a crtical time) can be some of the best defensive backs in the valley. yortsos had seven interceptions last year. expect big things from these two guys. but that jus rio hondo league. i wanna know about the other guys in the valley as well.

curiousgoerge said:

Golden,
Your wrong about Veilele Peco's wt. last year he was only
130lbs not 1351bs my son play's baseball with him
and Vei's a lil under 160lbs this year.
He told me he's working out extra tough this summer
His goal is 170lbs plus he stretched about 2 inches
since last year.He's a really great kid and will be
do great things this year.I've been following him since his gremlin year at the junior all-american level,
and the kid is just something special.

Goldenarm said:

I agree about Peko, you need only put the ball in his hands....quick slant from the slot, pitch, reverse, punt return, kickoff whatever....

he looked like 135 lbs last year, but the kids is elusive and good at avoiding the crunching hit
....a couple big hits would condense Peko to a size that fits into any carry on

He is an exciting ballcarrier and I agree Blu and Gold..he could grab headlines and really break out for thr Moors

Blu n' Gold said:

I went to the Alhambra H.S. Blu n' Gold game
to end spring ball this past weekend my nephew is on the J.V. team.
Of coarse Crockom is Crockum looks like he put on
about 15lbs of muscle he's just a stud, period!
The Qb looked a lot stronger looks like he grew also
from what I remember from last year.
To be quite honest the most impressive player to me
was their tailback Vailele Peko.Look's like he grew
a couple inches and boy is he gonna be something special
this coming season.That kid will be one of the top running backs in the area with no doubt.The Moor's should be an exciting team
to watch this season.

Goldenarm said:

I wonder how Tip is hanging at D-rock.

Maybe some late arrivals will find their way on the field...and give the man an opportunity to show what we already know he can do.

I was at a couple TC practices last week....damn they have got skinny white boys on the lower level, somebody please mix up some protein shakes with xtra carb load, maybe a ribeye and baked potatoe, pancake stack...something. If nothing else, they can stick you and do damage with a protruding rib bone or skeletal elbow!

!stang! said:

Miguel,
Can we get a thread about top 5 overall returning players? We all know who number 1 is .... D.riley for SF...

The Stang Fan said:

NY,

Exactly. Not only could they save money by consolidating, but they could MAKE money by renting out the facilities. Location, location, location...with the school situated right at the mouth of the 110 and two blocks from the Metro Rail, I'm sure some company would be quite interested.

New York said:

Stang Fan,
I'm not sure what to conclude from these historical enrollment numbers, but closing a high school in Pasadena might make economic sense from an operational standpoint. PHS currently has almost as many students as Blair and Muir COMBINED. It is unlikely that PHS has as much overhead as those two schools combined. Obviously there are issues to consider other than simply glancing at declining enrollment numbers, but enrollment typically drives revenue.

1993-1994
Total School
Blair 1,203
Muir 1,758
PHS 1,999


1998-1999
Total School
Blair 1,218
Muir 1,575
PHS 2,068


2003-2004
Total School
Blair 1,154
Muir 1,439
PHS 2,530


2008-2009
Total School
Blair 1,116
Muir 1,204
PHS 2,214

The Stang Fan said:

GA,

That's hilarious! Ironically, the school is scheduled to get their new synthetic turf next year!

Goldenarm said:

they should have let Tip have control of the sprinklers.....and both the grass and the picture would be greener.

The Stang Fan said:

Apache Joe,

You're right about the diamond-in-the-rough types in the SGV. Hopefully D-Walk will have some success with them so that more schools will have to make an SGV trip mandatory on their recruiting excursions.

GA & NY,

You two WELL know the difficulties that have ALWAYS surrounded the Viking program......"As Blair Turns"......

Although, I'm just not too sure how true the rumor is.

Btw, for reasons far greater than athletics, I just wish the district would close Blair once and for all.

New York said:

Golenarm,

If this rumor is true, can you imagine what a new coaching candidate would say once he learns that Blair opens with St. Margaret's? Of course, at this point in the year Blair may be limited to coaches who have never heard of St. Maggies, an even more discouraging thought.... Let's hope that this rumor regarding Scandinavia West is not true.

Goldenarm said:

PARKS RESIGNED??

Say it ain't so. The dude was sounding pretty optimistic about this season...and it is likely the Vikings don't need another distraction...especially when word out of Blair was beginning to have a positive ring to it.

Strange things happen at the start/end of the ancient Pasadena Freeway.

anybody with news....let's hear it

Anne Onimus said:

leadbone,

Dude, if you don't want people attacking you, maybe you shouldn't be starting your blogs off by calling someone's kid a midget. It's not cool man. And say what you want about the kid, he is one heck of an athlete. He did the job his coaches asked of him, and he did it well.

JFMatador said:

thats me down there.

leadbone said:

leadbone

what is your point?????????????????????????????????

concerned blair supporter said:

Miguel,can you confirm the resignation of coach Parks as Head Coach at Blair. I ve called the school with no response. Rumor has it that he's not been on campus, nor attending practice. I like coach and the change he has brought to Blair. I hope this is not true.

Apache Joe said:

BigFatFan,

D-walk should be recruiting the SGV. It would be perfect for the studs of the SGV who aren't getting exposure to get a chance to play at a Division 1 level. He understands that their are stars here, they just need the exposure. Muir has tons of talent at the skill positions. Arcadia has put out at least 1 college player for the last 10 years. Monrovia is similar to Muir, just not as much, but the quality is there (ie. Marquis Williams). St. Francis is the premier program.

There is talent here, not in quantity, but there are players in quality.

BigFatFan said:

Someone on this blog mentioned that DeWayne Walker from New Mexico State is heavily recruiting in the SGV. I too have heard that this recruitment goes beyond offering Cockrum a scholarship, and that his folks are talking with numerous SGV football coaches about their incoming Juniors and Seniors.

CuriousGoerge said:

Does anyone out there know if #1 Valdez
has any Wr's to throw to this year?
I'm guessing he will have plenty rushing yds
if not!

BigFatFan said:

San Gabriel does seem to throw a lot of bubble screen passes, and yes they do seem to accumulate a lot of yardage. I am still scratching my head as to why that play continues to work. its death by a thousand razor blade cuts.

leadbone said:

First of all, I use my name every time I post. Secondly, facts are facts, PERIOD. HE IS SMALL, HE CANT throw more that 30 yards down the field. I have seen them play at least 4 times last year and each game was the same, 25 screen plays. There is no Hate here only facts. Third, My childern were to intellengent to attend SG so again You don't know me, but I have seen all of you.

The problem with this blog is that when dealing with High Schools, people wear there emotions on there sleeves cheering for their kids. If some one has something different to say the personal attacks come out. DO NOT attack me for telling the truth. Make an intelligent rebuttal and move on.

Goldenarm said:

Donk, NY

Great posts. I love the "walk around the track" incognito idea...beats the parked car with binocs any day.
Unless you are CIA trained, coaches can smell "outsiders" watching them practice, so you need to hide in plain sight or have an unmanned Predator doing flyovers at 10,000 feet carrying a huge lens.

I guess we could go on forever on this one. A good quality game film or film library - viewed by experienced eyeballs who know what leads to what is crucial in prepping the kids. Do everything to keep it simple and don't roll in something that strays far away from the offensive or defensive strategy you already have in place.
Donk- to me, line play was always the most difficult to decipher, without benefit of replay or slomo - combined with bodies(and numbers) blocked from view..tough to sometimes chalkboard it out later.
My specialty was secondary - specifically how to pass on a team. Are the corners aggressive and close fast,,, vulnerable to an out and up? Do they respond to the QB's eyes or a arm pump? How does the safety respond? Is he more run minded - play action? Spacing of defenders, linebacker drop depth and mobility and speed rate the whole group.
It is pretty much endless. But it is also a HUGE advantage to do it with absolute excellence every week and to bone up well before season start. You have to trust who scouts for you, otherwise the input provided is just conversation.

New York said:

Oops. That was mine.

Anonymous said:

Goldenarm,

1.ALWAYS obtain film. No matter what. Wine and dine previous opponents if a traditional film swap is not likely. If it is the first game of the season then you need film from last year plus intel from camp, somehow some way (I recommend having a mom, less suspicious than a dad, walk some laps around the opponents practice field for a couple weeks leading up to the game to get some useful info.)

2. Find the exploitable chink in the armor. There is always at least one. Try to match your strengths against their weaknesses as often as possible. Too often an outmatched team unsuccessfully tries to put their best guy on the opponents superior guy. I like to experiment and create mismatches in my favor to disrupt as much as possible.

3. Be realistic about what you can take away. Take the run away from a passing team. Make a run team prove they can pass consistently.

4. Be well versed in Sun Tzu.

The Donk said:

Goldenarm,

my two cents...

I have scouted games as a Defensive Coach and what I look for in an offense is many different things. Make sure you get all the starters numbers, that is key, so the kids know who to be looking for. In terms of offensive line you have to watch there footwork. See if they are communicating on pass protection, ie. will stunts throw them off, will blitzes throw them off, etc. Can you beat a lineman inside or out, what type of player is each lineman, ie. fast, slow, big, small. This tells you who to put up against them.
When it comes to scouting a quarterback, you first should see if he can read a defense. If he can you may have to throw some disguises in you defensive formations. Is he quick, mobile, can you get to him with three or four rushers or do you need to blitz to get to him. There is always the small stuff too like how far can he throw, accuracy, strength, etc. Okay Im beginning to babble but some other quick notes to take are:
-Do their lineman pull or do they run more zone.
-Strength in terms of pass or run.
-Are their recievers explosive or more possession.
If you wanted more I probably could, but this is just from a defensive scouts point of view.

JFMatador said:

!stang!

2 teams, with team speed.

Goldenarm said:

QUESTION

for thought only

You are asked to scout an upcoming opponent...and given no particular area (offense, defense, line play, secondary, etc)to specifically "scout".

Your instructions from the head coach- "find us a way to beat this team".

1. What do you look for (be specific)

2. If you can't actually get a game film...what do you bring back to the head coach as far as documentation and information??

I have my answers, but I want to hear yours...NY, lay it on me! Winner gets access to Miquel's Mens Wearhouse gold card account.

Goldenarm said:

nice Mtown photo of what looks like a trap/counter?

Thank God for "timing" and endless practice till you get it right, otherwise you are looking at a 3 way, ankle tripping party between center, pulling guard and Bueno.
I like the fat of the ball, two hand grip, with spread fingers, Bueno has on the ball. Even if a backer shoots and nails him in the back unseen, no way does Bueno fumble, even during the exchange to the RB.

Look like the big Apache D lineman is in a read mode, not a bad thing...but I would bet he remained a spectator on this particular play.

!stang! said:

ok you just said 2 names ! I SAID TEAM SPEED!

JFMatador said:

!stang!

Faster speed than cathedral *randal carol* and serra? I doubt it.

!stang! said:

jf,
1. its a rivalry game. and im pretty sure you know how teams step up .
2. Phs has team speed. Faster then any team SG seen.
3.Phs came with a new Offense.
any more questions?

JFMatador said:

!stang!

5 games wasn't enough? well how about you guys, if your teams is so good why did you guys struggle agains pasadena? It should of been a blownout!

!stang! said:

Sg fans,
Jwilliams is the best QB! Point blank period. What teams have sg beat? Do the teams have good DB? Has the SG QB seen a fast defense? What was SG record?
* A good QB wins games! I don't think SG did that last year!

!stang! said:

Sg fans,
Jwilliams is the best QB! Point blank period. What teams have sg beat? Do the teams have good DB? Has the SG QB seen a fast defense? What was SG record?
* A good QB wins games! I don't think SG did that last year!

!stang! said:

Sg fans,
Jwilliams is the best QB! Point blank period. What teams have sg beat? Do the teams have good DB? Has the SG QB seen a fast defense? What was SG record?
* A good QB wins games! I don't think SG did that last year!

Goldenarm said:

Paraclete has multiple consecutive CIF championships...totally by memory I believe they ran 4 or 5 years straight in the early 2000 time frame. Something like that.
That mindset and playoff caliber experience simply does not exist at Rosemead....and if you have read my posts over time...you know my support of the Mead goes way back and covers statements on how they looked in SPRING last year!!
No time to ramble right now...but TC'er's O'Malley, Lumary, Stewart and Ouellete on ocassion buried Spirit standouts Todd Davis and Swanson in 1st half runs at TC. I 've got the film to prove it. This was not a team of superheroes.
Paraclete has a crew of 6 or more like dressed scouts shooting out 2 games ahead in anticipation of potential playoff bracket opponents. They know exactly what level of strenuous / non strenuous practice they need week to week in post-season....something many teams and programs with less playoff experience simply cannot rival or pull out of a hat.
I did not see the final game...wish I did. I would love to film review the game. You saying "the kids did not show up for the 1st half" is a bit contrary to your statements the Mead was 100% primed and ready. The Panthers of 08, coaching staff and all - were an outstanding bunch....no disrespect. My money was on the Mead in the final. literally.

incorrect said:

Goldenarm,

You as well as a few others on this board are the reason why i decided to post, after a long while of just reading an observing, your opinions are always backed by facts that you hold to be true and i like that, however, that being said i'm not to sure if i necessarily agree with your assessment of Paraclete being the best prepared team in the division; and i think many coaches within the division would take umbrage to those comments!
Before i begin to talk about Rosemead, because by now we all know that i am a Rosemead homer, i think that Coach Arrellanes at Northview and Coach Maddox at Monrovia prepare there teams with the same amount of energy and aspiring for the same goal....the Championship! Unfortunately, when it is all said and done only one team can win, and this past seasons team was Paraclete!
Being a knowledgeable area football fan i know you know this, but i'm not to sure if anyone else does...Is it possible that Paraclete may have had better talent, at least on the defensive side than the other teams? It hurts me to say this, because i thought Rosemead's defense was one of the best in the Valley, especially at causing turnovers!
Just a few things, if you remember the SGV Newspaper before the Northview v. Paraclete game, Coach Arrellanes stated that he felt that Paraclete was the best team in the division! If you saw the Midvalleysports interview with coach Paramo, you heard him state that their were a few blown coverages that led to touchdowns.
I follow Rosemead and was at the Championship, Rosemead wasn't out coached, the kids didn't show up the first half, and the offense sputtered! Where as Paraclete in their typical fashion, did nothing fancy and made no mistakes! Paraclete had the defensive line talent that no other team in the division had to exploit Rosemead's weak right side of the line!
Anyways, i know for a fact that coach Koffler's staff and team worked and the team was prepared, as i'm sure Temple City was and Northview was when they played Paraclete!
The better team won that night, and though it stings, i give them all the credit in the world!

Goldenarm said:

Memory Lane,

I hope you don't find my quote from the 7th grade Spelling Bee, where I finished as runner up. I still regret that one.

The returnee count is unchanged, the loss of all hands players (except Ruckle) remains the same, the talent pool observation is a decade old and no longer a major source of discussion. My issue then and unchanged today is - I still don't think the winding, accusatory, misinformation dirt road they led Backus out on was the right thing to do. There were too many swipes at Backus' character and I did not like it. You want me to apologize? I got nothing to say I am sorry about
to anyone. RB's record and performance and peer eval is a far more meaningful and accurate chart what he bought to the TC campus. People get fired and hired all the time...sometimes it is unpleasant and even heated. BUT, and a Biggest Loser size kinda Butt...you maintain levelness, strive to keep things on a respectful and professional level, not unleash inaccurate laundry best kept in-house or not mentioned at all. No further rehash.

Consider my side of the conversation and topic done on this.

The hires happened nearly dead on the timetable I predicted way back in December. We have a young coach with tons of energy and vision and a future that has a primer coat of paint on it - with the grand premier season just ahead. I fully support Coach White and staff and applaud the TC admin, deans, AD and all for bringing "new direction" and a "build" philosophy to the Ram program. Their is optimism in the ranks.

As a TC supporter, I still hold the decision makers responsible. I have a stake in seeing strong leadership and coaching on board with TC football. It matters to me.

Not sure what you were looking for, if it is a test, or part 1 of a plot against the Mayor. Either or all..next comment from me on this will be after the banquet. Peace.

HI HATERS! said:

LEADBONE-STOP HATING ON THE KID. U KNOW HE'S GOOD. ALL THE STUFF U WROTE IS BULLSH** I DNT THINK U GET HIS STATS THROWING BUBBLES HAHA GO CHECK OUT HIS HIGHLIGHT FILM ON YOUTUBE. FILM DNT LIE HE CAN SLING IT ALL OVER THE FIELD. JEALOUS? CUZ SOMEONE DIDNT BEAT HIM OUT FOR THE QB SPOT? HAHA U BURNED URSELF THE WAY U WRITE WE ALL KNOW WHO U ARE! THE TRUTH HURTS! I DONT THINK SG MADE A BAD DECISION! VALDEZ IS THE #1 QB BY FAR! HE CAN BEAT U WITH HIS ARM AND LEGS! IM IN THE STANDS AT GAMES AS WELL ARE U SURE WE ARE WATCHING THE SAME GAME?

haha said:

To"LeadBONE- U SOUND EXACTLY LIKE A PERSON I MIGHT KNOW U PRETTY MUCH BURNED URSELF HAHA...DNT BE MAD CUZ UR SON GOT BEAT OUT FOR THE QB SPOT HIS JUNIOR YEAR BY A SOPHMORE(VALDEZ)!. STOP HATING WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH. WHEN HE GOT HIS CHANCE THE FIRST PLAY HE FUMBLED. AND ALMOST EVERYTIME HE GOT A CHANCE IN BLOWOUT GAMES HE CHOKED! THE TRUTH HURTS...I DONT THINK IT WAS A BAD CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!

JFMatador said:

LEADBONE

you know miguel can see if your the same dude that keeps posting in different names, like eagleball,knight 03, truth.

P.S

You suck.

LEADBONE said:

I just read this today and can't believe what Miguel wrote. Valdez the top QB? What are you smoking? Have you ever seen them play? I doubt it very, very much!!! Valdez is a midget who can't see over his small line. Can't throw the ball more than 30 yards down the field PERIOD. What "rocket arm"? SG threw the bubble screen 25 times a game. Their recievers would eventually break a long one, no result of Valdez. Got the job in the first place because he is one of the coaches "meja". Miguel, Put down the bong and go see a game.

MemoryLane said:

came across this post. GA Remember Writing this? What are your thoughts now?

Goldenarm said:

The Cupboard Ain't Full, FB Einstein,

We have something like 5 returning starters and 13 returning lettermen.
Just for comparison sakes, Paraclete had 9 of 11 offensive STARTERS returning last year. Just offense.

In others words TC graduated pretty much all the skill positions except one RB. I went over this in detail in another post.

You are correct on the HC job being no glory post. Area candidates know this, as TC has long been ID'd as a dwindling talent pool. Barring another novel from me, the bottom line is - WE NEED A NEW COACH, THE RIGHT COACH, ASAP. For team building, for whatever needs doing - we cannot get a new hire on board in May or June and expect success. In truth, we may not even be able to expect success at all. The powers that be - had a strict tunnel vision duty and question - Backus or no Backus?

The aftermath and road kill of their actions is now WHAT WE AS TC SUPPORTERS should hold them accountable for. After all, Backus' removal and the hiring of a replacement should all be for the benefit of the kids, yes? Will it be?

http://www.insidesocal.com/paspreps/2009/01/did-temple-city-high-do-the-ri.html

Goldenarm said:

Always a good sign to see a sky full of verbal grenades...being flung from the bunkers and foxholes of two different campus'....all in the name of football!

I am sticking to the GET BETTER theme. You can't honestly expect other programs to weaken so you can waltz in a grab a trophy. You can't hope to get this team or that team, you gotta get to the dance first...learn your way around, and keep coming back smarter, tougher and more determined so that the doorman WILL NOT turn you away again! Not without some toe to toe and face time, because you know what....I deserve to be here, it ain't no fluke, and before I leave...I AM GOING TO KICK SOMEBODY'S ASS AND IT JUST MIGHT BE YOURS!

Focus has got to change.

This for me, was clearest with Paraclete, who won the crown with better prep than anyone else, a "stick to your guns don't deviate" game plan, and a defensive strategy that is based on denying the #1 offensive weapon of the other team...forcing them into unfamiliar territory. Once ahead on the scoreboard...the Spirits ramp up defensive aggression...rather than some teams which go soft and begin to think prevent...to hold onto their precious lead.
Against NV 0-0 halftime, against TC, it was either 7-6 or 13-6 at half, can't remember which. Regardless, the Spirits come out of the break white hot, almost like Dahlia serves them demon juice at half. The Paraclete staff knows it is like Magic Johnson said..."it's winnin time". Time to take from the other guy.

A one TD lead is nothing. Take that into the 4th quarter and all you have is fingernails chewed down to skin all season long. One turnover, one long ball, one floater into the flat that gets picked and boom....new game, and with this game mr. MOmentum ain't on your team any longer! Tell the bus driver turn the heater on - it is gonna be a quiet cold ride home.

Talk about a rant. I need a cold one and some soothing elevator music now.

THE ADVOCATE said:

Knight you sound like a lunatic. Gabrielino beat SG.. i was there at that game also. And let me tell you that Sg's best player and probably the most dominant WR in the area tore his ACL that game. Sg was playing with a QB that never played football before and had probably 9 sophmores on the field at the same time. White Gabby had Seniors all over the field. Zuniga, Omar, and that whole class where once in a lifetime for Gabby. IT WILL NEVER BE WHAT IT ONCE WAS WITH THAT HORRIBLE STAFF. You want to take shots at Sg for being one of the biggest schools in Cali with a(5-6) record, well think about this.. its in the Alhambra school district with 2 other schools. San Gabril School District takes some kids and so does Rosemead high school. So lets take that into consideration please. SG would throw the ball all over both Rosemead and Arroyo. IDK what Arroyo or Rosemead has to offer this year but i doubt rosemead will be the team it was last year and i know that arroyo can't stop Jude Oliva's offense because hardly anyone can. And playing cupcakes for preseason? Can you say Serra?? Cathedral?? Temple City (Semi-Finalist in your WEAK division)?? Common buddy give it a rest. you sound like a fool trying to argue this point. PS: I CANT WAIT FOR GABBY TO GROW SOME SACK AND PLAY SG AGAIN SO WE COULD START WHOOPIN THAT A$$ AGAIN. ISNT IT FUNNY THAT GABBY ONLY WANTED TO GET THAT GAME GOING WHEN THEY THOUGHT JONES WAS OUT? OLIVA scored 21 pts on that "HARDNOSE D" with a team of sophmores PUTS SWANSON TO SHAME...

THE ADVOCATE said:

Knight you sound like a lunatic. Gabrielino beat SG.. i was there at that game also. And let me tell you that Sg's best player and probably the most dominant WR in the area tore his ACL that game. Sg was playing with a QB that never played football before and had probably 9 sophmores on the field at the same time. White Gabby had Seniors all over the field. Zuniga, Omar, and that whole class where once in a lifetime for Gabby. IT WILL NEVER BE WHAT IT ONCE WAS WITH THAT HORRIBLE STAFF. You want to take shots at Sg for being one of the biggest schools in Cali with a(5-6) record, well think about this.. its in the Alhambra school district with 2 other schools. San Gabril School District takes some kids and so does Rosemead high school. So lets take that into consideration please. SG would throw the ball all over both Rosemead and Arroyo. IDK what Arroyo or Rosemead has to offer this year but i doubt rosemead will be the team it was last year and i know that arroyo can't stop Jude Oliva's offense because hardly anyone can. And playing cupcakes for preseason? Can you say Serra?? Cathedral?? Temple City (Semi-Finalist in your WEAK division)?? Common buddy give it a rest. you sound like a fool trying to argue this point. PS: I CANT WAIT FOR GABBY TO GROW SOME SACK AND PLAY SG AGAIN SO WE COULD START WHOOPIN THAT A$$ AGAIN. ISNT IT FUNNY THAT GABBY ONLY WANTED TO GET THAT GAME GOING WHEN THEY THOUGHT JONES WAS OUT? OLIVA scored 21 pts on that "HARDNOSE D" with a team of sophmores PUTS SWANSON TO SHAME...

THE ADVOCATE said:

Knight you sound like a lunatic. Gabrielino beat SG.. i was there at that game also. And let me tell you that Sg's best player and probably the most dominant WR in the area tore his ACL that game. Sg was playing with a QB that never played football before and had probably 9 sophmores on the field at the same time. White Gabby had Seniors all over the field. Zuniga, Omar, and that whole class where once in a lifetime for Gabby. IT WILL NEVER BE WHAT IT ONCE WAS WITH THAT HORRIBLE STAFF. You want to take shots at Sg for being one of the biggest schools in Cali with a(5-6) record, well think about this.. its in the Alhambra school district with 2 other schools. San Gabril School District takes some kids and so does Rosemead high school. So lets take that into consideration please. SG would throw the ball all over both Rosemead and Arroyo. IDK what Arroyo or Rosemead has to offer this year but i doubt rosemead will be the team it was last year and i know that arroyo can't stop Jude Oliva's offense because hardly anyone can. And playing cupcakes for preseason? Can you say Serra?? Cathedral?? Temple City (Semi-Finalist in your WEAK division)?? Common buddy give it a rest. you sound like a fool trying to argue this point. PS: I CANT WAIT FOR GABBY TO GROW SOME SACK AND PLAY SG AGAIN SO WE COULD START WHOOPIN THAT A$$ AGAIN. ISNT IT FUNNY THAT GABBY ONLY WANTED TO GET THAT GAME GOING WHEN THEY THOUGHT JONES WAS OUT? OLIVA scored 21 pts on that "HARDNOSE D" with a team of sophmores PUTS SWANSON TO SHAME...

JFMatador said:

Knight03

you obviously don't know what your talking about.

stop living in the past, that was in 04....like you said. Aren't you truth, and knight 03? How Ironic ....SG whooped you in 03...but then again I'm not living in the past like you, just putting it out there.

Knight03 said:

Advocate, (Get your facts straight!)

Are you for real!!! The only reason Schurr even won a CIF title was because the weak almont league changed divisions and got out of the then D7 which included Los Altos, Charter Oak, Diamond Ranch. Get your facts str8! Obviously you are a SG staff so you would know that SG got whooped 55-12 by Gabrielino a game in which i scouted, remember that? I would have loved to have seen your team go up against the Los Altos, Charter Oaks of the world. Face it, SG is over hyped and living in the past. For the second biggest public populated school in California a 5-6 season is a success? Arroyo, as well as Rosemead would dominate your program any given day. SG has not & will not have any success in the new D7 because they are a pretender. You can walk throught preseason playing cupcakes, but when it comes to the real season they're a JOKE!!! Remember That!!!

The Stang Fan said:

!stang!,

I'm sure there are, but I have NO IDEA who they are. It'll be fun to see who steps up though...

!stang! said:

The stang fan,
Thanks for the support! Your pretty close to the stang family!
Is there any 10th graders expecting a lot of playing time this year?

The Stang Fan said:

The Donk,

You are right....that's exactly why those schools WON'T be there in 2010. OC will be joining the Marmonte League in the Northern Division and Serra and Cathedral will both be joining the new Mission League with SF in the Western Division.

Btw, although it doesn't mean much, Calpreps labels the Western as "Division III" and calls the Northern "Division IV." However, once OC joins the Northern there is no way that the Northern shouldn't be the "D-III" team, what with teams like St. Bonnie's, Oaks Christian, Saugus, Hart, Canyon, Newbury Park, Westlake, etc. I think these teams are a little higher in the pecking order compared to the top teams in the Western like Alemany, Palmdale, Quartz Hill, Dominguez, St. Paul, etc.

Who me? said:

Donk -

Very easy - it is called private schools

The Donk said:

Can someone please tell me how La Salle is in a mucher harder division, than the RHL? La Salle has Oaks Christian, Serra, Cathedral, etc. in there division. UNBELIEVABLE!!!

The Stang Fan said:

Couple of things part II.....

NY,

AGREED!!!

CatsFan,

I agree with you that both of those players will excell this year, and I hear Ramirez is the truth. However, 4.4 forty times are hard to come by, especially for someone heading into their sophomore year, as you mentioned. I can see it happening with a hand-time, but on an electronic clock?....not at all.

CAT class of 2000,

Muir vs. Monrovia....been there, done that. You'll have to come a little better to draw me back in to that argument.

Truth,

Glamour shots? Lmao! Did-this-guy-ever-play-ball reference? Lame. Btw, both leagues AS A WHOLE (like the Pacific and RHL) aren't that good in the grand scheme of things.

JF Mat,

Exactly. You used individual teams to talk about entire leagues. That formula does not make for good LEAGUES. Good leagues may have 1 pretty bad or decent team mixed in with some strong to really good teams. I mean, I'm not saying you have to be in the Serra League to be in a good league (where a school like Crespi......CRESPI...misses the playoffs), but all of the leagues in our area have some fairly lowly teams....which hurts us ALL come playoff time.

!stang!,

That's a tough one. I'd have to say the hogs and Williams. I have NO idea about the young skill guys, but I'm POSITIVE there are some in the stable somewhere...there always are! I don't remember that LB that well, but a buddy of mine says he's pretty good and strong as hell. I saw Tripp at the League Prelims and he has a powerful stride...if he runs that way with those beasts up front it could pose a lot of problems for opposing defenses. As far as Muir's postseason problems....I agree, we've recieved some TOUGH draws. But hey, you've got beat who's in front of you. Btw, here's a more accurate breakdown of the last five postseasons:

2008- 1st round loss to Diamond Ranch (CIF Division VII Finalist)

2007- 1st round loss to Cajon (lost in CIF Divison V quarters)

2006- 2nd round loss to Colony (CIF Division V Champs)

2005- 2nd round loss to Notre Dame (CIF Division III Champs)

2004- 2nd round loss to Notre Dame (CIF DIvision III Champs)

Goldenarm,

You ain't lying bro....we (the WSGV) MUST get better!!!

Goldenarm said:

We all can get better.

In fact, we need to get better.
As much as the "new direction" crap makes me want to puke - in some ways there is need for new direction. In my mind it is a matter of keeping those things that work (fundamentals and alot more)and combining

One team or maybe two from the SGV, need to break out and win it all, this year or next. Rosemead SHOULD have brought it home this year. TC and Monrovia at least got close to the enchilada...and sometimes that with a couple breaks is enough to make it happen. The Stangs were VERY, VERY good last year, and their exit in RD 1 goes beyond disheartening...but that bummer of an extremely tough round 1 opponent is what sometimes lies in the CIF winding path of seeds and brackets.....you get who you get...although it is often round 2 when the bigger monster comes your way.

My gut says in the next 5 years (barring releaguing)M-town will catch a red hot SGV wind, and ride it to the CIF crown. It will happen.

And yes, I guess I am the minority when it comes to seeing Arroyo as possibly huge this year. Their D will be ferocious in 09 and with ball, good mix of run/pass and fundamental straight forward offense.

R.D said:

To: Truth/Hard Hat,

Do not know what fantasy world you two live in. Lets put it all out on the table. The Almont is in Division 7. Compared to The Rio Hondo and MVL which are in Division 10. The Almont has Schurr, which will put the T.C's and Rosemead in their place. Schurr won CIF in 2006 in a solid division. They beat a awesome La Habra team which handled South Hills that year. Then the following year went to the semi's. So please wake up and realize that the Almont is in the higher S.G.V division for a reason. The M.V.L and R.H.L are playing leagues teams like La Puente in the playoffs for a reason.

Anonymous said:

Who are the top returning defensive players?

!stang! said:

Lil Cat 2000001000,
Is this the same Cat team, that was blew out the water by aracadia? Is this the same cat team that struggled with the RHL league? And is that the same aracadia who give up 500 yards to muir! Lol . The Cats haven't been good since 2000. Dude yall can't beat the Stangs on our worst year!
Ps. And if you look at the past 5 1st round exits. It was to a team that eventually went to the championship! So the road to the championship goes thru 1905.n lincoln!
Miguel,
5 out 7 years muir gets put out by the best! The SGV fans don't seem to see the big picture.
2 loses to Notre dame
2 Loses to Colony
1 lose to Daimond ranch
* all went to the championship game!
** the Stangs runs the Valley..... we tried to shedule the second best but they coach doesn't want to lose!

!stang! said:

Lil Cat 2000001000,
Is this the same Cat team, that was blew out the water by aracadia? Is this the same cat team that struggled with the RHL league? And is that the same aracadia who give up 500 yards to muir! Lol . The Cats haven't been good since 2000. Dude yall can't beat the Stangs on our worst year!
Ps. And if you look at the past 5 1st round exits. It was to a team that eventually went to the championship! So the road to the championship goes thru 1905.n lincoln!
Miguel,
5 out 7 years muir gets put out by the best! The SGV fans don't seem to see the big picture.
2 loses to Notre dame
2 Loses to Colony
1 lose to Daimond ranch
* all went to the championship game!
** the Stangs runs the Valley..... we tried to shedule the second best but they coach doesn't want to lose!

New York said:

The conversation is certainly becoming provocative. I can't say I agree with alot of it, but it has become interesting.

JFMatador said:

Truth

after I read that the almont league hasn't been in the playoffs in years I kinda stopped reading......you need more rest!....what weaker league?!!??! Schurr beat La habra in 06! besides SG defeating schurr in 07, and last year it was a close game! That's a testimony of how competative SG has gotten. Take a look at the MVL, only team I see improving is Rosemead, the rest are getting worse. Still Schurr over Rosemead, SG over the others! so does alhambra, BG and even Montebello.

JFMatador said:

The Stang Fan

It's true but I believe times are changing and football all around is getting better, for example, Rosemead going to the finals, schurr taking CIF in 06, and also the RHL has improved ALOT!

Goldenarm
But I still doubt Arroyo will be among the top ten, I haven't hear them make any noise for a while.

Truth said:

JFMatador,

How can you compare the Almont league with the MVL? No Almont team has passed the first round of the playoffs in years. However, MVL teams have advanced to greater rounds in the playoffs more consistent than ur weak almont teams. South El Monte to the Semi's numerous years, Rosemead to the semi's and finals, and not to mention Arroyo. ALmont league is over hyped, the only real team is Schurr. JFMatador stop living in the past man!!! Even that team that made it to the finals did so bc they changed to a weaker division. We'll see how they fair now that they are with the big boys!!! The Almont league is a joke, Mark Keppel, Bell Gardens, Montebello, San Gabriel all laughable! Arroyo is going to be dominant this year with all the returners. Rosemead is always tuff and Gabby is going to surprise alot of people. San Gabriel is getting too much love from Miguel for a 5-6 team. Maybe Miguel should stop w/ his man crash of coach jones and stop taking glamour shots like the one on his profile? Did this guy even play ball in his life? What University did he go to?

Truth said:

JFMatador,

How can you compare the Almont league with the MVL? No Almont team has passed the first round of the playoffs in years. However, MVL teams have advanced to greater rounds in the playoffs more consistent than ur weak almont teams. South El Monte to the Semi's numerous years, Rosemead to the semi's and finals, and not to mention Arroyo. ALmont league is over hyped, the only real team is Schurr. JFMatador stop living in the past man!!! Even that team that made it to the finals did so bc they changed to a weaker division. We'll see how they fair now that they are with the big boys!!! The Almont league is a joke, Mark Keppel, Bell Gardens, Montebello, San Gabriel all laughable! Arroyo is going to be dominant this year with all the returners. Rosemead is always tuff and Gabby is going to surprise alot of people. San Gabriel is getting too much love from Miguel for a 5-6 team. Maybe Miguel should stop w/ his man crash of coach jones and stop taking glamour shots like the one on his profile? Did this guy even play ball in his life? What University did he go to?

CAT class 0f 2000 said:

Monrovia has the best QB.
We also have best football in SGV.
If we play Muir or PHS we would beat both school by 20 point this year!!!.Unlike Muir we don't lose in first round years after years!!!

CAT class 0f 2000 said:

Monrovia has the best QB.
We also have best football in SGV.
If we play Muir or PHS we would beat both school by 20 point this year!!!.Unlike Muir we don't lose in first round years after years!!!

!stang! said:

THE Stang Fan,
Who do u believe will step up from the stangs this year?
Looking at last year roster, I see 1 returning linebacker, 4 returning linemen, and 1 RB. The RB E.Tripp posted some fast track times this year, but doesn't have to much experience in the backfield. With this new beefy oline we have and E.Tripp speed I am thinking 1500yards .Honestly I think JWilliams will have more rushing yards then most RB , he is a hard runner and will deliver a hit. And that's based on the fact that Muir runs a lot of zone read witht the QB.
Miguel,
Im so ready for baseball to be over with. No disrespect to any baseball fans!
!Stang Nation!

CatsFan said:

I was at Monrovia's football testing before the start of last season and Bueno was clocked at 4.45, which I believe was the best time on the team. He is definitely quick, and with he and Ramirez in the backfield, they should be an explosive combination.

The Stang Fan said:

Couple of things.....

PB83,

I too believe that Bueno will do very well this year, and in fact may be able to start at tailback at some schools in the area....but he does NOT run a 4.4.

Football fan,

While it is true that those players would do well if they concentrated on one sport, I'm glad to see that they haven't succombed to the new-world order of "specialization." Long live the multi-sport athlete!

NY,

Unlike last year, I'm sure Bonds has a gun-slinger or two in the fold, and I've actually heard that the Posthuma kid is pretty damn good.

eagle fan,

Okay...lol...lol...lmao...lol! And btw, I'm not laughing at the kid, no, I'm laughing at that joke of a coach they have at Marshall. Hopefully that kid will be able to do well, but in that system....I doubt it.

pasadena dogs,

Not sure about any transfers, but I am interested to see what type of offense McFarland will run and who will be running it. Btw, Muir by 20 in the bowl this year....

!stang!,

Looking forward to see how Williams plays this year, and I'm sure that kid who threw that pick in the Tussle last year will do better with a year under his belt and a new coach...although I think they'll still struggle this year.

JF Matador,

Let's keep it real...virtually all of the leagues in this area aren't that good. While there are some good teams at the top of the leagues, unfortunately, the actual leagues as a whole are pretty weak.

goteamgo/BFF,

Yeah, I wonder if the fans have been told to keep hush on the subject, or if they are just caught up in another good run with their baseball team.


BigFatFan said:

The silence from the Maranatha faithful on the QB situation is deafening. but they may be preoccupied with the baseball team's playoff run?

goteamgo said:

Any news/reports/updates on Maranatha's new QB? The one and done, third high school in three years guy? His parents moved across the USA to give him a shot at football glory. Just curious for an update.

Goldenarm said:

Rams 09

The return of JS is something I have pretty much prayed for. Your observations are on the money.

Come September, I will bet here and now - he will be under center. What QB would not come out of exile - with the O line we have? He can throw the long ball!

When the season is over in December - this single item you mention, may well be one of the most important of all things happening in TC football land. Coach Mc Kay's QB knowledge should benefit Smith as well. He and AT should give us some security at QB.

Go Rams!

Goldenarm said:

where to start - too many replies....thank God for football rap!

JF Mat,
don't discount Arroyo, particularly this year. It might just be the best Knight team in a decade. Might.

Incorrect,
Dude, change your name..... or update to "Incorrect, but rarely". Rosemead's "O" turned on the legs of Sumler, and Alejandre's completion ratio was a blend of the pro sets you mention, a tough O line and the fact DB's were battered from making tackles their front men missed or were too well blocked to make. 3 solo tackles on Sumler and you don't feel too inspired in coverage, especially if it means sticking TE Diaz as he comes over the middle. Big kid, big load.

JFMatador said:

Codename: Hard Hat said:

How can u say SG play in a weak league? especially after saying Arroyo has a winning season year in year out????? The only reason Arroyo had a playoff spot was because THEY play in a weak league. Gabby, mountain view, El Monte...I mean you put all these schools into a league and you have one of the most laughable football leagues in the valley. And arroyo isn't looking bright to say the least.

Some1 who knows said:

I happened to be jogging the track at San Marino and noticed Joe Forgatch has quite a cannon and did have that shakey last season, but is looking good. He should be an other because his arm looks very strong and he has grown about a foot in a year, just putting it out there

!stang! said:

Pasadena Bull frog,
Is this the same A.simpson that threw an INt first play he came into the tussel last year?

Rams09 said:

I'd like to toss in my nomination of a sixth...Justin Smith over here at TC is looking really good and has a lot of respect from most of the players on the team. The boy has quite an arm- he was on a RHL JV team his sophmore year but took junior year off to focus on baseball. He came back this year to play one more time with his soon to be senior buddies.

pasadena dogs said:

What about pasadena high school..Last years quarterback jeff davis is going to be transfering to John muir for this up and coming football season people laugh at that because the question is what position will he play ha....Pasadena also has a quarterback who is not all that much big in size but his heart makes up for his size Aarron Simpson my not be a fast guy but he can read a defense like no other last years season with Coach Kevin Mills he played quarterback some of the time mainly to run the option..but this year Coach Mcfarland has seen the talent he has on throwing the ball as well as tucking it and running...Simpson also plays a variety of positions such as Wr,Cb, and Fs so he knows the game now let's see wat he can do in his upcoming junior season at Pasadena..

pasadena dogs said:

What about pasadena high school..Last years quarterback jeff davis is going to be transfering to John muir for this up and coming football season people laugh at that because the question is what position will he play ha....Pasadena also has a quarterback who is not all that much big in size but his heart makes up for his size Aarron Simpson my not be a fast guy but he can read a defense like no other last years season with Coach Kevin Mills he played quarterback some of the time mainly to run the option..but this year Coach Mcfarland has seen the talent he has on throwing the ball as well as tucking it and running...Simpson also plays a variety of positions such as Wr,Cb, and Fs so he knows the game now let's see wat he can do in his upcoming junior season at Pasadena

!stang! said:

do any of these guys play other positions?

i know for a fact Jwilliams is an all around athele.If you seen the hit he put on the Oaks Chrisitian Tight end last year was scary.Jwilliams was the starting corner last year.

On another note- I seen the SG kid in passing league last year and he was not that impressive.And for a team that pass 80% of the game (40+ attempts a game).
stang Nation!!!!

eagle fan said:

laugh all yuhh guys want.. but marshall has a pretty good qb comin back. this year he will be able to air it out, last yrs. o.c. was scared to unleash the kid. so watch out for the kidd........

Codename: Hard Hat said:

As a local high school football fan I enjoy reading the blogs. But it is tough to read about the "best" players in the area when teamwork is what is supposed to be preached. As far as the top 5 QBs in the area are concerned I was fairly surprised that such average QBs were paid such high compliments. Valdez is a good athelte who happens to play QB by default. If he was 6'3'' he would be a sub-par QB at best. He is fun to watch because he plays above himself and puts SG in good positions. He is a system player. No offense but the kid cannot throw for more than 20 yards, which is why he runs so much. SG plays in a weak league and barely hangs on (one shared league title in what? 30 years) come on. You can't hold on to a CIF run from more than 5 years ago. Perennial winners should be given a little more credit. Teams like Rosemead, Temple City, Arroyo. These are teams that win year in and year out without the likes of any Div.I talent. Lets look at longevity not just a couple of decent seasons.

New York said:

Great work, Miguel.

Doesn't/shouldn't St Francis have a guy on this list?

football fan said:

Pretty impressive of Bueno and Tuck. Its probably pretty tough with baseball and miss all of spring ball and be a pretty good QB. Imagine how much better the 2 would be if they only played football or made football their number one sport. Good list Miguel, keep them coming

PB83 said:

Bueno runs a 4.4. He would be a starting tailback at most schools. He will be unleashed this season when they run a spread option.

incorrect said:

Is it just me or am i the only one who is tired of the spread offense! High school, college, the NFL, it is such a copy cat game; and the part that gets me, is that there are many teams out there that actually do themselves a disservice, rather than helping themselves with the spread!
Now getting back to this list, i know san gabriel runs the spread (or version of it) and Monrovia runs the wing, however, would i be completely wrong to say that the other teams do run the spread? In saying that i think that what Bueno did was amazing considering that Monrovia did run a wing! In the two games that i saw Monrovia play Rosemead, Bueno hurt them with his feet! The first game Rosemead was not prepared for four wide receivers, the second game they were! However, despite being prepared or not Bueno hurt them with his scrambling ability!
i think Monrovia would be better suited if either they implemented more shotgun four wide sets, or run some pro style offense to utilize play action, bootlegs, or waggles! I say this because he was put in gun in the first game late in the game when rosemead had already stopped the run, and in the second game right before the half in their two minute offense! That being said those stats are pretty amazing.
Food for thought, Angel Alejandre of Rosemead threw the ball 258 times and completed 162(that is over 60%), in a pro style offense. Now let's think college ball! USC runs a pro style offense and look what it has got them 3 quarterbacks projected high in the NFL: Carson Palmer, Matt Leinhart, and Mark Sanchez, all first round picks! What has happened to the Chris Leaks, Alex Smith, Timmy Changs, or the young man from texas tech this year!
I would love to see teams run some more pro style sets. You can run single back without being a spread, just as USC does! Run the crap out of the zone and then use that to set up the play action pass! I don't know, maybe im full of crap!

BigFatFan said:

Bednarski at SP has huge upside for this season, perhaps more than Bueno and Tuck, if... he can get some blocking from the O-line.

The Stang Fan said:

Miguel,

GREAT analysis on the QB's. Most of the time writers will just throw a list out there with a sentence or two about the players. Excellent job bro, keep it up!!!

Btw, looking at Bueno's highlight, I would say that he actually is pretty quick, but not necessarily fast. Yet, quickness in football is just as good, if not better, than being fast....especially in tight spaces, where QB's reside.

None of these guys will ever be confused for prototypes, but all of them appear to be natural leaders who should have successful seasons. Can't wait to see it all unfold!!!

Miguel Melendez said:

Wow: Not knocking the kid. I know he's fast because I saw him play baseball this year, but to me his speed wasn't nearly as good compared to, say, Reuben Thomas or Isaac Valdez, and it's not like Bueno was a true threat on the run. Though I'm sure that will change the more comfortable he gets.

wow said:

Really? You don't think Nick Bueno at Monrovia is quick?

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Miguel Melendez is the Preps Editor at the Pasadena Star-News.

Melendez worked as a correspondent for the San Gabriel Valley Tribune for three years and later landed a job as a freelance writer at the Los Angeles Times before accepting an offer at The Orange County Register covering high schools.

Melendez covered Major League Soccer at The Register for three years before being promoted to report on the Lakers, Angels and Dodgers for the Web. Melendez also worked for the Daytona Beach News-Journal, Fresno Bee, Oakland Tribune and The Boston Globe.

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!stang! on Football: The top 5 returning quarterbacks in the WSGV: Miguel, Can we get a thread about top 5 overall returning players? We ...

The Stang Fan on Football: The top 5 returning quarterbacks in the WSGV: NY, Exactly. Not only could they save money by consolidating, but the ...

New York on Football: The top 5 returning quarterbacks in the WSGV: Stang Fan, I'm not sure what to conclude from these historical enrollm ...

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