Friday Night Aftermath: Dimalante records win No. 100 in Arcadia’s 34-13 win over Muir; Rosemead rallies from 19-point deficit; Monrovia rolls; Maranatha wins big, too.

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Friday’s results
Arcadia 34, Muir 13 — Myles Carr completed 14 of 17 passes for 195 yards and three touchdowns, two to John Wong and one to Taylor Lagace. Nader Doumani returned a fumble 72 yards in the first quarter to put the Apaches up 14-0. Lagace recorded two interceptions and laid one of the biggest hits I’ve ever seen in my 10 years of covering high school football. Lagace and Muir’s Daityevon McFadden collided, with McFadden getting the brunt end of it. McFadden was slow to get up, but to his credit remained in the game and soldiered on. Arcadia recovered several fumbles, including one by Lagace and Wong. Straight up, Arcadia outplayed Muir in just about every facet of the game. After the game, Muir coach Ken Howard said, “I didn’t expect that kind of performance” and when I asked from which team, he said both. No doubt he was impressed, as I’m sure the rest of the West San Gabriel Valley is, too. Muir was healthy, had its weapons at its disposal, but the Apaches made it difficult moving the ball. Muir also didn’t help itself with penalties halting drives and negating several first-down conversions. Good win for Arcadia, that it gave Dimalante his 100th career win at Arcadia must have felt even more special.

Rosemead 29, Temple City 28 — Rosemead scored 20 unanswered points in the second half by way of three touchdown passes by quarterback Matt Macias, who bounced back from a rough outing last week in a loss to San Gabriel. Temple City’s Joshua Simangunsong rushed for 186 yards and two touchdowns in the losing effort. Temple City led 21-9 at the half and 28-9 in the third quarter before the Panthers stormed back.

Monrovia 27, Paramount 7 — Nick Bueno completed 9 of 12 passes for 197 yards and two touchdowns. Jay Henderson and Luke Williams had a spectacular performance.

Cathedral 37, South Pasadena 7 — Cathedral’s Zachary Green had eight carries for 116 yards and two touchdowns. Kristan Ivory had seven carries for 128 yards, including a 57-yard touchdown run to lead the Phantoms on the ground. Justin Kornford caught a 9-yard touchdown pass from Conor Bednarski for the Tigers’ only score in the first quarter. Cathedral controlled the field position and the defense recorded eight sacks. South Pasadena had eight false start penalties, including four straight in one drive in the middle of the first quarter.

Burroughs 35, Pasadena 8 — The Bulldogs got held to 144 yards of total offense, gave up over 400 yards on the ground. Not the recipe for success. Pasadena led 8-0 in the first quarter, but it was downhill from there.

Golden Valley 35, San Marino 21 — Earl Johnson had 18 carries for 188 yards and four touchdowns to lead the visiting Grizzlies. Ryan Wood had 25 carries for 117 yards and a touchdown to lead the Titans.

Maranatha 59, Western Christian 7 — Chris Cornell recorded three interceptions and scored two touchdowns, including one from 80 yards; Jeremy Major scored on a 60-yard touchdown run and fellow sophomore Omar Younger added another one from 74 yards. The Maranatha defense recorded two interception returns for scores from Xavier Dansby and Mark Jebbia. The Minutemen improved to 5-1.

OTHER SCORES

Paso Robles 42, St. Francis 28
Arroyo 26, La Canada 7
Bassett 6, Duarte 0
St. Bernard 29, La Salle 23
Brawley 51, Blair 0
Pasadena Poly 35, Sage Hill 14
Marshall 49, Calvary Chapel 20

  • Apache Joe

    Hip, Hip, Hooray for Coach Dimalante. I really hope he gets this win. He deserves it.

  • theRealdeal

    This is a big time game for both teams but more for arcadia with coach dimalante’s 100th win on the line! good luck to him and the arcadia squad!

  • theRealdeal

    This is a big time game for both teams but more for arcadia with coach dimalante’s 100th win on the line! good luck to him and the arcadia squad!

  • SorryForInteruption

    Hey Miguel,

    You never posted the Super 35 poll for this week.

    Inquiring minds would like to know!!

  • the critic

    hey im all for coach dimalante and his 100th victory but sad to say i think that might happen next week muir is healthy and out for blood im hoping at the least it be a good game but muir should and will win this game….

  • stays at 99

    I’m sorry, and maybe I’m missing something here, but do u guys really think Arcadia has a chance in this game? Muir wins by a few touchdowns tonite.

  • stangfan!

    This is going to be a good game for our area.Mustangs are coming out of the stables. Good Luck Mustangs.

  • Moneytalks

    It will be a packed house tonight. Not just arcadia’s band taking up all the seating.

    This game will be one for the ages. Can’t Wait!!!

    Apaches!

  • Anonymous

    Anyone know anything about paramount? Whats the outlook for monrovia tonight?

  • Bulldog Fan

    AHS is on the rise, but I don’t think they will keep up with Muir, Should still be a fun game to watch. Muir by 10.

  • Goldenarm

    The stangs hung pretty well with Amat for awhile and that says alot. Arcadia is clearly getting better week to week, but the lack of an Apache run game is a concern. No way they can out-athlete Muir.

    It could boil down to mistakes and Muir is going to have to make a couple to open the door for Arcadia. I don’t think it is a lock for the Stangs – this game will weigh heavy on the season outcome of either team.
    If Carr is pressured right from the start – it could spell trouble for Arcadia.

  • Huckster!!!!!!

    Ummmmmm??? Is there anyway they both can lose? I’m for that only! Dimalante is a good coach.

  • How!

    I heard that the Native American protesters will be chaining themselves to the goal posts in order to get Arcadia to drop the Apache nickname.

    It may take several weeks to get to win 100.

    But then again I may be wrong on that, Good luck to the coach and program.

  • MoneyTalks

    How,

    Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn’t the arcadia school district donate money each year to the apache tribe?

  • From The Press Box

    End of 1st quarter: Arcadia 21, Muir 0

    Not a typo.

    Arcadia 21, Muir 0

  • From The Press Box

    Halftime Score: Arcadia 27, Muir 7

  • Goldenarm

    If you thought the tie game at Arcadia last year put a bad light on football officiating – IT WAS NOTHING COMPARED to tonights Rosemead / Temple City contest.

    Temple City outplayed Rosemead in every facet of the game, but could not win – not when the refs called back not one, not two but THREE Ram touchdowns. The last call possibly being the most ridiculous – an offensive pass interference call against Anda of TC, who was being ridden, gouged and hacked by a defender, but still caught the ball and got into the endzone….only to have it called back. There were fumbles, punts muffed and live punts bouncing off Mead players into TC hands, somehow with Rosemead getting the benefit of the call.
    It was 28-9 TC at half. 42-9 would have been a true representation – but not with this ref crew. TC Touchdown on a long pass – nope holding call on TC. Meanwhile the Rams can’t touch Macias, because of blantant jersey grabbing on too many pass plays to count. That along with obvious, 7 or 8 false start/ illegal procedure calls that this ref crew chose not to call. They called many – but maybe got tired of flagging Rosemead for the same thing over and over again, their line just can’t seem to get off the ball simultaineously.
    TC did a great job defensing Fregoso, but were killed by the Meads sure handed excellent favorite target receiver, who was left open again and again, and also TC’s lack of contain which showed the Mead wisely took advantage of.
    In the 4th the Mead got two 15yd penalties stacked on them for a rash of unsportsmanlike conduct, putting the Rams at midfield. All in all it was horrible to watch and the reason was officiating – the refs took over the game, set the tone, and altered the outcome by inaccurate or missed calls. It was a control-fest and they were the controllers. I take nothing from the Rosemead kids – they fought tooth and nail to the wire. But on this night, the Rams were CLEARLY the better team and had the game ripped from their grasp by a crew of refs who seemed abnormally pleased each time they over-emphasized a call facing the TC crowd.

    I feel horrible for Sanderson who dropped a sure INT that would have ended the game. It should have never gotten to there – as this was the Rams night from beginning. The refs poured pitchers of Adrenalin on Rosemead with their blown calls,,,bringing life. Meanwhile TC needed 3 touchdowns to get 7 points, and 4 holds to get one flag.
    Horrible exhibition of how refs can alter and influence the outcome of a football game.

    Those that know me know that blaming the refs for a loss has never been my way. Congratulations to the Panthers – you guys gave 100%. Rams have got to be hurtin.

  • the critic

    ok no longer will i go for muir tonight was terrible muir looked like they never played football a day in their lives they let and i quote an average receiver in lagace out perform the whole team oh and by the way u cant win a game win u have 26 penalties to aecadia’s 5 the biggest one right after muir scores to make it 21-7 early in the 2nd dai dai mcfadden intercepts a pass thrown to legace only to be called back by a terrible def pass interference legace clearly was ahead of the defender but dai dai out ran him to intercept the ball everyone in the stands was wondering who the call was on….and i didnt know holding was a 15 yard penalty i guess that wa a new rule….well congrats diamalante with ypur 100th victory but make sure u shake the refs hands to they were a big part in that win…..

  • Goldenarm

    posts are not coming up

    guess apaches pulled it off…nice win for coach D and coach B as well

    congrats to m-town too
    sorry to see LC did not take arroyo, I thought they would

    there was horror at hitchcock field tonight
    I am heading for a shot of Patron and 1/2 of a Tops Pastrami, maybe that will kill the pain

  • the critic

    u think it was horror there man if u was at the muir arcadia game u would had been saying and drinking the same thing….the refs destroyed muir tonight everytime muir moved forward the refs took them backwards….terrible terrible terrible…..

  • Moneytalks

    The crtic,

    Far from. Completely off. Muir got outplayed. Muir could not match arcadia’s tempo. Arcadia went deep on Muir on one of the first plays of the game to Lagace. Myles Carr is growing up so fast and pass set the tone. Average? Well, Lagace killed it, plain and simple. What did he have? Over 100 yards receiving, 2tds and 2 ints? 12+ tackles? Average? Sounds like someone is got hit in the head a few too many times. Hands down, one of the best all around players to play in the SGV. Miguel will agree. By the way, #10 McFadden got hit so hard by Lagace, I thought he wouldn’t live to see another play. Glad to see he got up after a few minutes. That was the hardest HS hits I have seen since Chris McAlister hit a CV receiver and broke his ribs in 1994.

    Arcadia is rolling. they learned from the monrovia loss. In hindsight, it was rough but one of the best things that could have happened in my mind because they learned and looked 10x better tonight.

    It was nice to see San Gabriel’s Former coach, Keith Jones at the game. Nice man.

    Congrats to Coach D… No. 100!

  • Realist 2.0

    Someone get the “the Critic” a hand towel so he can soak up the tears. Arcadia stuck it defensively at muir. Muir can’t hold the rock like it is a loaf of beard. The rock was stripped several times.

    The refs called bad calls on arcadia too. It was even, goes both ways. Arcadia had some calls that game muir a chance to score before half but arcadia’s defense call up.

  • the critic

    money talks….are u serious the for it to be the hardest hit it couldnt had been that hard he held on to the ball and continued to play and lets be real them ref’s screwed muir over by far but to arcadia credit yeah they out played muir in the first quarter in a half and to the littlest gut on the field credit in mcfadden he ended with 19 solo tackles 4 catches for 54 yards….good game to legace and arcadia i mean hey after 7 years of getting whooped on u gotta find some momentum and strategy to win….

  • the critic

    the realist 2.0: what game was you watching arcadia got called for a total of 7 penalties 4 of which was false starts and 1 of which was a unsportsmanlike conduct penalty muir had over 150 yards in penalties. hey im not a muir fan my team is alemany which arcadia couldnt compete with if they let them play 14 on 11….but my hats off everyone has a good game here and there it was just arcadia night tonight.

  • Realist (immm bbaaaaacckkk)

    The critic-

    I hate to rain your your little parade here, but you sound like a whiny angry parent. Lagace is head and shoulders better than anyone in the SGV. You called him “decent.” If he was just decent why was the final score 34 to 13. Thats not being a decent player. He lead Arcadia on defense and offense. This game just goes to show that Muir is an undiciplined football team. Don’t whine about the refs, they did a good job tonight. They called penalties on both teams. And yes, Lagaces hit was easily one of the hardest HS football hits ive ever seen. McFadden didnt know where he was after that. Arcadia played far better and they were disipline. Stop whining and take it like a man. Just like Arcadia has the last 7 years. You don’t see Arcadia fans on here complaining about the refs after they lost the past 7 meetings. By the way, Arcadia won by 21 points. Thats not the refs.. That an a** kicking. And that my friend is the truth. I cant even believe you have the nerve to sit here and make excuses about the game. Your a child.

  • Realist

    The critic-

    What is your deal?????? Just give credit where credit is do… Maybe you should try it. Its good for your self esteem. ARCADIA BABY!!!! What a win.

  • the critic

    t realist: dude every team that win a game claim the ref did a great job and yes i am a proud uncle of the qb vernon adams of alemany hmmmmm….and lagace being the best player in the sgv i beg to differ when u he doesnt even have 10 yards receiving against monrovia and lets not forget bishop amat is also in the sgv so chill out on that…and like i said once before im an alemany fan….so good luck to the little pacific league games which i went to tonight to support my fellow pasadenians but hey arcadia gotta win sometime why not tonight and the little guy mcfadden got back up and still played good 19 solo tackles wow…….

  • the critic

    realist: like i said before good win for arcadia get that through your skull wow u beat muir its not like u won your weak league burbank will pummel arcadia look im glad to see arcadia doing they thing i mean look the last time they were good is when they had adarius bailey who like my alemany team roster is from the great pasadena….great game to lagace and carr nice dual i mean hey in the pacific league thats probably all you need….ochoa will win pacific league m.v.p….by the way

  • stangfan2

    Muir got outplayed we can all agree with that, muirs oc is terrible idont understand why he continue to run the ball when he has Karl Holmes one of the fastest and most explosive guys in the sgv…… Dai Dai McFadden his talent goes back too cresenta valley….. Kevon Seymoure who has showed he can play since last year….. and not to mention Desean Hayes from Muirs basketball team.

    If you wanna win Muir stop with the penalties and GET HOLMES,MCFADDEN and SEYMOURE THE BALL!

    Not to Mention Davis threw 3 picks

  • Realist

    critic-

    Tell me someone on Bishop Amat that is better than Lagace. You wont be able to. Taylor went to the top 150 camp and earned MVP honors. Im going to go out on a limb and say that not a single player from Amat or Alemany was even invited to these camps. he didnt have many yards against Monrovia because they were double and triple teaming him the WHOLE game. Just because McFadden got back up doesnt mean it wasnt a big hit… And your wrong, he didnt have 19 solo tackles. There is no way. I wonder if the refs took away some of his tackles.. Maybe he had 45 tackles but the refs took them away because the refs OBVIOUSLY won that game for Arcadia. Idiot

  • Realist

    critic-

    Your a joke. your one of those guys that has never played football in his life but thinks he knows everything. There is no way Ochoa is going to win the Pacific League MVp. That is the dumbest thing ive ever heard.. Almost as dumb as the ref comments you made.

  • the critic

    realist; dude Dennis rufus also plays in the sgv by far he is better than your choice of best player…and which he is also from pasadena mannnnn just imagine and i mean imagine if adams rufus and the rest of the pasadena players stayed home and played like the mcculloghs did man pasadena would be untouchable….now back to reality “realist” dude shut up you sound more excited about the win then arcadia did after the game your glory days are done stop living them through other kids that aren’t yours…..

  • the critic

    realist: im over here lmao at u and your dumb comments lagace or arcadia who by the way got blown out by st. francis who we own couldnt compete against us…and camp stats lol those mean nothing there done in shorts and t-shirts and the running back from bishop might just be better so dont brag about camps they have over 100 of of so called top 150 camps get real ochoa check his stats out dummy and what his team is doing i guess you dont check into that im thinking you only know about what arcadia does so sad your an ammature at this stop stressing you probably was making faces while typing that to huh yeah i bet lol….go to sleep with your arcadia’s comforters and by the way just look in the rankings and see where my alemany team is ranked

  • the critic

    go back and check your numbers i think ochoa is killing in the pacific league u should go check before your words start to sound like somebody was lactose and had toomuch milk and cheese but couldnt make it to the restroom in time. and by the way when i played we won league every year….

  • valley guy

    critic
    wow what a night chaminade defeats notre dame for the first time since 1992 and also i read arcadia defeated muir for the first time since 2003 the table’s are turning and if your precious alemany team was still in the mission league we would had beaten you guys to for the first time in a few years. and man your like on every blog ok alemany is good vernon adams is a beast but just like the others alemany will fall to bishop amat and they will destroy you guys like they did last year. but (realist) that guy ochoa is nice we played against him and he’s tough.

  • Anonymous

    Ochoa is a great player, so is Lagace. Who wins “best player” in the pacific league will rely on the results from the rest of the season, too early to say now. No need in arguing who is better. But critic, you truly sound like a sore loser. To blame it on the refs is a very immature and naive excuse. Accept the loss. Even the Muir coach admits they were outplayed. I was not there for the game but a pass interference call is ALWAYS a border line call and depends on the POV and angle. GET OVER IT!

  • new guy

    GUY,

    I will bett anything that arcadia will take down Burbank in a pacific league showndown this Year. Arcadia will win league and either Carr or Lagace will win MVP. Just ask MUIR about them two…..

  • Realist

    critic-

    Not a single person on this blog cares about Alemany. AND Arcadia didnt get blown out by SF, they were down 35-27 half way through the fourth. And the final was 42-27. That is not a blowout. Arcadia was in that game untile that last minute of the game when SF scored their last td to make it a 2 score game. Burbank has only 1 good player, Ochoa. Arcadia has Carr, Lagace, Rail, Wei and more. I dont even think the Burbank game is going to be close. Arcadia will win in blowout fashion. Too many weapons for the Apaches. AND your right, the camps are all over and they are done in shorts an t shirts. But why arent there any players from your team getting invited to they camps? I guess they only invite the “decent” players. Tool

  • Reno Hightower

    Reno stayed in town this weekend and took in the Muir @ Arcadia game. Wow! what a game. The Apaaches came out fired up and jumped the Mustangs 21-0 in the 1st quarter. Muir responded and blocked a Apache field goal attempt, then marched 82 yards for a TD. Both teams played see-saw football after that. Lagace had a great game as did QB Carr, LB Victor Wei, DE Rousette,and several other Apaches. Muir QB Davis had several Houndini moves and escaped the Apache pass rush again and again. McFadden took a vicious shot and got up and continued to play. RB #22 was slippery and had moves to make any DC stay up all night worrying.

    Critic: Reno says to blame this on the refs is crazy and nonsense. Muir’s OL was holding all night in the face of the Apache DL rush. Some holds were called and some holds weren’t.

    In the end, Arcadia outplayed Muir and won. Congratulations to Coach D on his 100th win to cristen the new Apache Stadium and Salter Field.

  • Too many Flag’ets

    Hey Miguel/StangFan: Is there anything we can DO?

    I have read about and witnessed so many bad calls from our San Gabriel ref crew! Not just my home teams games, but other games as well…. It seems obvious that many of the refs are totally BIASED towards certain teams. Not until CIF playoffs start do we end up with “decent” refs.
    If any refs out there are reading this, I’m sure you are snickering as you read this. DO YOU REALIZE what you do to these young men as they battle and witness you changing a game blatantly and stick lopsided calls against them. Did an athlete (mainly FOOTBALL player) steal your girlfriend in high school and this is your payback?
    I know as a fan or coach we tend to really think refs are screwing us, but just do what I do and go to games that don’t impact you one way or another and you will see the BIAS calls being made! It is a let down for players!
    C’mon Miguel or StangFan….. Let’s get something done about the San Gabriel Ref’ing crews! They stink!!!

  • Sports Mom

    Sports Mom said:

    to critic- You know what’s worst than your stupid comments……? your spelling and your verbal expression, obviously Alemany wasn’t an academic school. I don’t know what game you were watching, but Arcadia ran over Muir fair and square and it does not take a man’s perspective to know this even a women knows when there has been an as****** kicking! So stop while your ahead and keep your dignity.

  • John Wayne

    Too Many Flag’ets…. that’s funny!

    I have to agree with biased calls being made. I too have witnessed several games not only Maranatha but others that, I would swear the refs had a kid playing on one of the teams!
    The refs are truly getting out of hand. Especially when you hear about a ludicrous warning towards one of the coaches being “out of uniform” while on the field. His attire didn’t match some of the other coaches! REALLY!!! What is that about? I have seen position specific coaches in their own attire… REFS ARE GETTING STUPID and power hungry. I suggest everyone start carrying a copy of the rules around.
    Refs realize where you are and the IMPACT you can make on these young men… oh and keep your eyes peeled for that angry parent that hunts you down for such a stupid call!
    Don’t change a game due to your biased feelings! BE FAIR!

  • the critic

    sports mom:
    try a different insult if you actually read what i wrote i never once misspelled anything look blogging is opinionated there is nothing you or anyone else can say to change my opinion i dont know maybe its that time of the month for you. how about this do like other moms do and find a local pop warner game and work the concession stand im a critic thats what i do is criticize so if you cant take it get off the blog. realist: dude get real those camps your talking about anyone can pay to go to them and my team/school alemany we dont have to go to those colleges comes to us. and like i said t-shirt and shorts means nothing if it did Oak Christian would had blown us out in the beginning of the season according to the way they did us in passing league which is played in t-shirt and shorts like your camps. i once again applauded arcadia for there victory i just wish the ref’s would let the kids play a little more and wow for sports writers bragging about an illegal hit is outrageous just ask jordan shipley how did it feel last week oh and by the way lagace was flagged for the hit why not mention the fact that the kid still held on to the ball thats the big wow after a hit like that. man truthfully you guys beat muir you didnt win the championship which i strongly doubt arcadia would be there with teams like west covina and bonita in that lower level of talent in the south east division. and melendez be fair on the blogs stop picking and choosing which insults get through……and realist he only had 95 yards receiving which you stated over 100 yards i guess that was a typo the guy lagace in my opinion is a good player but not the best in the sgv good game arcadia congrats coach d now ima go back and watch highlights from my alemany team 53-0 blowout last night.

  • the critic

    sports mom:
    try a different insult if you actually read what i wrote i never once misspelled anything look blogging is opinionated there is nothing you or anyone else can say to change my opinion i dont know maybe its that time of the month for you. how about this do like other moms do and find a local pop warner game and work the concession stand im a critic thats what i do is criticize so if you cant take it get off the blog. realist: dude get real those camps your talking about anyone can pay to go to them and my team/school alemany we dont have to go to those colleges comes to us. and like i said t-shirt and shorts means nothing if it did Oak Christian would had blown us out in the beginning of the season according to the way they did us in passing league which is played in t-shirt and shorts like your camps. i once again applauded arcadia for there victory i just wish the ref’s would let the kids play a little more and wow for sports writers bragging about an illegal hit is outrageous just ask jordan shipley how did it feel last week oh and by the way lagace was flagged for the hit why not mention the fact that the kid still held on to the ball thats the big wow after a hit like that. man truthfully you guys beat muir you didnt win the championship which i strongly doubt arcadia would be there with teams like west covina and bonita in that lower level of talent in the south east division. and melendez be fair on the blogs stop picking and choosing which insults get through……and realist he only had 95 yards receiving which you stated over 100 yards i guess that was a typo the guy lagace in my opinion is a good player but not the best in the sgv good game arcadia congrats coach d now ima go back and watch highlights from my alemany team 53-0 blowout last night.

  • a true fan of football:

    wow i cant believe the writing about that hit i was watching the game which arcadia completely out played muir and was much more physical. but the hit sent chill through my body. it was flagged but the penalty was called off because of a false start penalty on muir my only question is if muir had false started why did the play go on. that was the only questionable call i seen that night oh and the pass interference call when muir intercepted the ball but other than that muir o-line was not ready or prepared for arcadia and arcadia put on a beautiful show for there home coming. but i am worried about the headline and bloggers talking about an illegal hit come on parents and fans we should not be applauding a hit like that. but we should applaud coach d on his 100th victory and arcadia for finally getting over that hump go APACHES!!!!!!!!

  • RHS Maroon

    Temple City vs. Rosemead: Bad calls all night on both sides! our RHS fans were just as upset with the calls the refs were making, but of course we had the win. Where do they get these ref’s from?

  • Realist

    critic-

    It is apparent that you are not an intelligent being. First saying that Lagace is “decent” then saying the refs won that game for Arcadia, and now saying anyone can go to the top 150 camps. It was an INVITE ONLY, which means you have to get INVITED! Therefore, not anyone can go. Your an idiot. I think your just mad that your son is a non athlete and you are taking it out on Taylor Lagace. Wake up old man. I hope you feel good “criticizing” they high school boys. You must have been bullied in High School to be this insecure. Or matter of fact, the way your talking, you probably didn’t graduate from high school. Just stop commenting on high school football. You don’t know what your talking about. Please don’t comment back, thanks.

  • New York

    Where or where is BigA or Dad of Three? Those guys talked more football and less gibberish.

    Why is Muir not utilizing there large, veteran offensive line to establish an inside run game? Are they not getting off the ball low enough and quick enough? Reno, what did you see?

  • the critic

    the realist: maybe you cant read or comprehend well ima help you out a little for one decent is a good thing to be considered as a player for two not only did i graduate from high school but i graduated from college also and for three i work for football camps so slow your role. being invited is not that big of a deal all it does is get your name and your attributes on the computer. and as i can see your very simple minded and a weak individual. out of all the years i’ve been blogging i never seen a or read such heart felt writing i must of hit a soft spot blogging isnt for you sorry to say because its not difficult to just post an opinion and not get so sensitive because one disagree with you. i never bad mouth taylor lagace i personally know the kid and for you to mention my son well today he actually ran for 3 touchdowns and threw one for his pop warner team go mid valley titans. and did you hear about what my nephew did last night wow what a performance. well my job here is done your weak you know what you should do is change your name and blog under something different.

  • the critic

    the realist:
    maybe you cant read or comprehend well ima help you out a little for one decent is a good thing to be considered as a player for two not only did i graduate from high school but i graduated from college also and for three i work for football camps so slow your role. being invited is not that big of a deal all it does is get your name and your attributes on the computer. and as i can see your very simple minded and a weak individual. out of all the years i’ve been blogging i never seen a or read such heart felt writing i must of hit a soft spot blogging isnt for you sorry to say because its not difficult to just post an opinion and not get so sensitive because one disagree with you. i never bad mouth taylor lagace i personally know the kid and for you to mention my son well today he actually ran for 3 touchdowns and threw one for his pop warner team go mid valley titans. and did you hear about what my nephew did last night wow what a performance. well my job here is done your weak you know what you should do is change your name and blog under something different. oh yeah and if you ever want to meet in person i will be at the mid valley titans ponies game in pasadena at jackie robinson park all day until about 8:00 tonight and then ima attend dave and buster in the santa anita mall after so you can catch up with me tough guy…….

  • Fun times

    Muir being 0-2 in league means that they have an uphill battle to make the playoffs.

    Where is the Huckster to lay into muir???

  • tcchamps

    Critic Youre killing me here. I havent had this much fun reading since I read Horton hires a Ho, oops, I mean Horton hears a Who.

  • the critic

    the realist:
    dont feel threatened it was an invite threats are childish we can have a few drinks i can show you my cars and what full contact camps i work for where there actually in pads if you didnt understand what i meant by full contact. and you will see why im so against the hype of camps in t-shirt and shorts. stop getting all sensitive and worked up thats not going to help you get rid of your anger all its going to do is have you hit your computer or lap top keys to hard and then your going to be angry at yourself because now a few keys dont work. maybe you should throw in the towel blogging aint for you its for men and strong women who dont really write with feelings its an opinion and im entitled to my opinion get over it as you would call me idiot who son or dad probably isnt athletic lol…what an idiot…..

  • valley guy

    tcchamps-critic-realist:
    maybe all three of you guys should date and hold hands well tcchamps your last message didnt mean anything but your not like these two idiots. realist and critic shut up get over it and both of you guys sound ridiculous it seems as if yeah maybe you two have some education but obviously the home training and respect for others went right over your heads.

  • Anonymous

    sports Mom

    to critic: so it seems to me that your the one that can’t that take criticisms so why don’t you take your own advice and stay OFF the blog your getting repetitive and boring… blah blah blah. As for your comment about the time of the month! Just as i thought NO CLASS!!!! The blogs comments are about football. Oh Yeah you should be concerned next time your purchase something from a concession stand.

  • Anonymous

    critic,
    Lagace was also Offensive MVP fo the Fresno State Camp which is full pads full contact.

  • Anonymous

    Realist and the rest of you Arcadia fans should think twice as to whether you want to push Taylor Legace in front of other players in the area as the best WR. Take a look at his stats Pre-Muir showdown and then think again about how great he is compared to others in the area. Mind you he get’s 80% of the pass attempts from your QB and these are his best results.

    Opponent Scores
    09/10/10 St. Francis (La Canada, CA) L 27-42 13 154 11.85 35 2
    09/17/10 Monrovia (CA) L 7-34 3 12 4.00
    09/24/10 Temple City (CA) W 42-14 3 21 7.00 1
    10/01/10 Pasadena (CA) W 44-7 3 52 17.33 22 1

    Dont think so. Unless you are in dreamland. Look around at other players and their stats before you start waving this kids credentials around this blog. Realist, go brush your teeth and take a nice warm shower and wake up tommorow to go and protect the confederated flag. You yourself are OVERRATED!

  • tcchamps

    Valley Guy – I don’t believe they would respect me in the morning.

  • the critic

    sports mom:
    you made a valid point i did get a little hot over the blog but as for you claiming someone doesn’t have class you should check yourself before you point the finger, you came off at me with no class saying i dont know how to spell and etc…but thanks for the advice i wont be going to any concession stands this week. but i stand on my opinion by saying he is not the best player in the sgv. by the way i work the U.c.l.a youth full contact camps and this year i got to work the 14-18 full contact camp down in Florida.

  • The Stang Fan

    I would LOVE to get on here and tell you that Muir is NOT “who we/THEY thought they were,” to paraphrase Dennis Green. That would be giving them too much credit…because at this point, it is crystal clear that this team has NO understanding of who they are.

    A few things are clear though. We are a 1-4 team. We are a losing team. We are a disappointing team (THE most disappointing in the entire SGV….BY FAR!!!!) I could throw a few more in there, but the season’s still young. Let me get to the game….

    Turnovers, penalties, emotion. There was plenty of the first two, and none of the latter (at least until the 3rd quarter.)

    6 turnovers. 6? Seis?!?!?!?!?!?!?! SIX!!!!!!!!!!!!! Game over. You can’t win like that. Ever. You will lose to a team who you’re better than (West Covina vs. Covina), and get blown out by a team that is comparable. Now…combine those turnovers with DOUBLE-DIGIT penalties! More than 10!!!!!!! Btw, did I mention that THREE of those turnovers were in our RED ZONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smh. Smh. Smh. Smh. Smh till it hurts.

    Congrats to Arcadia. They played with passion and emotion. The played smart. They flew around. The made big hits. They did NOT turn the ball over. They did NOT commit numerous penalties. And they made ALL their fans proud. As an opposing fan I congratulate those young men for playing FOOTBALL. Good, sound FOOTBALL.

    This Muir team has talent. They have good skill guys. They have linemen. They have potential. But we all know that potential ONLY means you haven’t done CRAP yet. And this team hasn’t done CRAP!

    Why did the defense wait till the second half to play hard, passionate football? They shut the Apaches down the entire second half…until that late score at the end. Didn’t the same thing happen against Burbank last week? What…they didn’t learn? Offensively….hold on to the the damn ball! Stop committing penalty after penalty. Make the offense simpler. NY is right! Pound it! We had 3 picks and a QB fumble on a scramble. It wasn’t necessary last night. We had to have over 200 yards on the ground last night. In fact, I bet we had as many, if not more, total yards than Arcadia. If you’re an Arcadia fan, you had to LOVE the fact that we didn’t commit to the run. I’m sure every time our QB dropped back to pass, you rubbed your hands in anticipation.

    Man, that was one of the most frustrating games I’ve been to in awhile. We lost to Bishop Amat by the same score!!! There is NO WAY IN HELL that Arcadia and Amat are even remotely close!!!! The offense needs to step up. The defense needs to step up. The coaches need to step up. This is shameful. Muir is too talented. Arcadia does not have the talent the Stangs have (uh, except for Lagace of course). Period. But last night they had everything else. EVERYTHING else. And those are the best kind of teams to support and root for as a fan. Again, congrats to AHS….NO APACHE DOWN!!!!

    Disappointed, disappointed, disappointed……

  • Bronco5

    Miguel, now that we are at the mid way point if the season why don’t you review your preseason picks for the schools and positions on the field. Might be interesting to see how close you are on your picks so far.

  • SFHSAULM

    Reno, just got back in town after a long trip to Paso Robles. Tri tip was alittle dry so I didn’t bring you one back, the white hat did give a couple a generous spots on 4th and 2 when we thought we stopped them and amazingly the nose of the ball was just past the chains for a first down. Those boys love to hit hard up there. SF defense for the second week in a row got burned all night by either the deep fade or a QB draw (it was not fun to watch)I hope they get it together for their game next Saturday against Serra.

  • Goldenarm

    RHS Maroon,

    I must agree, some funky calls went against the Mead as well, 1/3 of my night was spent trying to figure what the call was first – and then figure out who it was on. It started with a TC TD run….that looked like it might come back when a yellow hanky was on the ground….but no, sideline violation on the Mead, TD stands.
    They would spot the ball…give possesion and then say…ooops, actually you maintain possesion, but lose a down and ooops! return to the original line of scrimmage..meanwhile clock stoppages, teams standing around and Alex Trbek landing at midfield in the Jeopardy helicopter. My throat hurts today from yelling at zebras – who did far more damage than good.

    Control freaks, overuse of authority, itchy flag hand or lack of breast milk as a infant – I have no explanation. Like I said earlier, the Rams opened the door…but the officials threw in the cannister of poison gas that took them out. In fact, multiple cannisters.
    Our one killing field – lack of QB pressure on the opponent.
    1-4 start for the RHL – San Marino homecoming next Friday. TC – you guys played hard, coaches great job.
    Great call on the TD throw to Palmer. Even the wedge looked better.

  • Realist

    Stang Fan-

    I respect it. I totally agree with what you said. Muir should just put that #22 kid in the wildcat.. he seems to be the entire offense. Hes a good quick back, very hard to take down.

    Critic-

    Yes this blog is based on opinions. Well im here to tell you that your opinion is out there. Pretty far. Decent is not a good thing. Thats a notch before being good. So you pretty much said that Lagace is not very good. All you have to do is ask the Muir coaches how “decent” Lagace is. They will think you are special. And no one on this blog cares about Alemany OR pop warner football, hence why this is a High School football blog.

    This is just for you…. decent – adequate; fair; passable. Straight from the dictionary. That IS NOT a good thing to call a football player. Taylor is an above average player. I believe he is the best WR in the SGV. Teams change their whole defense up to contain him. Like I said earlier, Monrovia was double teaming him with a linebacker playing the slant, so basically 3 players on 1 man. Against St. Francis they had man up with a man over the top, double team. In the TC game, they double teams him. And he plays a GREAT safety. But afterall critic, thats just MY opinion. I don’t think anyone else thinks he better than a “decent” player. I think you hit the nail right on the head with that one.

  • Eye in the sky

    Talk about Taylor Lagace being the best in the SGV is nothing. He is head and shoulders above anyone in the SGV. The way he plays you have to compare him to the cream of the crop in So Cal and in the state of California. He is that good. Taylor Lagace, in my opinion, is the #2 junior receiver in state next to Jordan Payton of Oaks Christian. He has all of the tools necessary to do well at the next level. Him being a team player is what is most impressive which has translated into wins for Arcadia. You can tell he is a smart football kid.

  • anonymous

    Realist, are you sure you were watching the same Monrovia game that others watched? He was single covered all night. Derrin Jenkins stuck to him like glue. The difference was he could never get open because our defense was in your back field faster than your own running backs. Dont believe me? Tape dont lie. Check it out

    http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/dl0GZik_lUWFW42ihb5Yxg/monrovia-wildcats/football/hudl.htm

  • Reno Hightower

    Reno has to know! How many tickets were issued to Saint Francis Fans? Did you get HOMERED by the local referees? (Apparently TC got homered at home. BTW: officiating sucks and has sucked for several years)Did you bring home a tri tip sandwich for Reno?

    Stang Fan: Reno saw the same game that you did. Muir has tons of talent and lack of execution. Arcadia played better Friday night, all the way around. Give props to Coach D and his crew. Go Apaches! Arcadia embarks on a two week jorney to face Burroughs and Burbank. The Pacific League is the SEC as compared to the RHL. Only the Mission league is as brutal.

    GA: Mooney and the TC Mafia return to North Field this week for the RHL opener. Should be interesting. Very Interesting….La Canada hosts South Pasadena. Last time LC played SP it was a double header w/ TC. Will all bus drivers in the RHL this week get secret routes to the games?

    Maranatha faces Whittier Christian at Whittier College. Reno might go see that game in a minuteman minute and maybe not. Another statement game for Murphy. Wish they had to face Para-Cheat, er, Clete.

    Nothing in the MVL as the top dogs square off vs. the bottom feeders.

    Who is the PSN player of the week?

  • anonymous

    click on Derrin Jenkins and the Arcadia game will come up.

  • the critic

    the realist:
    im glad you changed your tone on the blog and ok if you think my opinion is far fetched fine no problem but i think the same about your opinions. earlier someone posted a true fact if your 80% of the teams offense you have to have better numbers and from your reason why he wasn’t productive in the monrovia game goes to show that the blogger who mentioned that is 100% correct. now in my own opinion i do think he’s and ima rephrase this a good player ok thanks for taking the meaning right out of the dictionary, is that a step up from decent yeah a step but comparing him to jordan payton is beyond outrageous. but also i dont care if anyone cares about alemany on this blog you obviously thought i was a muir fan and i said no i wasn’t i just love pasadena talent. and the pop warner statement, man im starting to think you dont read you made a comment about my son and i commented back with how he was doing today to show you that he is very talented like his daddy which is me was and still is. funny thing i was talking to dennis rufus today and told him that someone believes that the receiver from arcadia was the best in sgv he laughed and asked whats his name so i mentioned his name and his response was i never heard of him. now dennis rufus is a top 150 player who just gave a verbal commit to boise state. now my question is if he is hands down the best player why dont some actual top players know of him….

  • fanofgoodfootball

    To the realist and the critic,

    Get a life. You spend way to much on this blog! Take this excessive time you spend on this blog and invest in your family and or get educated about football.

  • Honestly

    Stangfan,

    If u guys don’t find a new head coach quick for next year
    it will just be the same ol’ broken record.I’m getting tired of people saying Muir has all the talent in the world but its true they do at least in all sgv.
    NEW HEAD COACH is your only option just keeping it real!

  • the critic

    hey derrin jenkins that name sound familiar where did he play pop warner at or is he from the monrovia area.

  • the critic

    fanofgoodfootball:
    obviously your on here as much as we are if your reading all of our comments and to help you understand why i blog its a fun hobby and a way to find out whats going on in the area so shut up and go read over what you type before you post anything dummy….

  • Anonymous

    If I’m not mistaken he is an offspring of Michael Jenkins a Muir great from the 70′s. He is the real deal.
    Fanofgoodfootball: You and realist need to get together and watch highlight films of old Arcadia games. As much credit as you want to feed this blog on Legace, he hasn’t yet proven a thing. You my friend need to get a life. And your friend Realist has taken up just as much or more time trying to convince everyone who will listen about how great Arcadia is and how much better they are than anyone else. I’ts a blog get over it!

  • anonymous

    Critic, dont by into this dudes comments because he is really REALIST, 1,2 & 3. He could be hanging around some bar off of Tujunga recruiting some save America Millitia group.

  • the critic

    man derrin jenkins sound too familiar ima do some research and find out if his father is from the Pasadena area good luck on the season i hope monrovia takes it all. man i remember them from when they had darryl moore and akil harris man that was a beast squad and i especially remember michael ainsworth now he was awesome…

  • the critic

    hahahahahaha….at a bar in tujunga lol….hahahaha.

  • The Stang Fan

    Oh, and btw…that hit above was NOT a penalty. Terrible call by the refs. That’s just good, tough, hard-nose football. This is a physical sport, remember. Lagace is a baller. Straight up. He will DEFINITELY play D-1…not as a WR but as a defender. I don’t care about camps, who does/doesn’t know him, or if he’s the best player in the SGV and/or state. Bottom line, the kid will be playing somewhere on Saturdays and I’ll be proudly rooting for him as a fellow SGV’er. Keep it up kid!

    What Dai Dai did in catching the ball, and getting up and continuing to play HARD despite that DEATH blow, was even more impressive than the hit itself. That little dude is tough as NAILS!

  • the critic

    stang fan:
    are you serious did you not see the bright yellow flag that was thrown when that hit happen… hey i love football and the toughness that comes along with it but it was flagged go review the tape. or just ask a muir fan who was at the game.

  • the critic

    let me rephrase that i just read completely through your comment but come on in the picture it clearly shows helmet to helmet. scratch the comment before this you did acknowledge that it was a penalty….and yes it was a beautiful hit…

  • the critic

    stang fan:
    continue to be a die hard fan i respect that unlike most of us fellow pasadenians including me you stayed true….NO DISRESPECT FROM MY END DUDE GOOD LUCK ON THE SEASON

  • Realist

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/recruiting/top150prospects/_/class/2011

    Dennis Rufus is not on the ESPNU top 150. Thats the guy from Charter Oak right?? Im not saying that hes not a good player. But hes a senior. Lagace is only a junior. Thats probably why Rufus hasn’t heard of him. Lagace is youner. The fact that Lagace is doing what hes doing as a junior just makes it that much better.

    And im not saying that Arcadia is better than anyone. I understand that the Apaches are far from the best in the valley. Im just saying that Lagace has to be in the conversation for the best player in the valley.

  • FootballHead

    derrin jenkins didnt play pop warner, his 1st yr playing football was last yr in his jr yr. he’s also a jr. his dad was bulldog from phs derrin jenkins sr. and this kid is a shutdown corner, he shut down taylor legace!!!

  • Anonymous

    I have seen a lot of games. If Monrovia had a passing quarter back one or two of those boys would be top WR in the SGV. Those WR, 9 and 16, catch everything. Hell every game I go to 9 has a touchdowns and 16 is making catchs also.

  • anonymous

    M-town does have a qb who can throw. It just so happens that they run the ball effectively. As more and more teams adjust to stop their run game, the Cats will start throwing more. Paramount loaded the box, which forced Monrovia to pass.

  • Goldenarm

    Rosemead loaded the box too – and Josh S had 152 1st half rushing yards. Note: you can still run against a stacked house – it is harder, but you gotta block!

    Reno,
    thanks for a glorious reminder of the folly that awaits those who don’t take care of business and end up trying to back into a playoff slot via California tie-breaker
    One bus ride per Friday night should be the rule.

    Mooney’s TC Mafia – I like the ring of it. Titans toughened up their preleague – so beginning RHL undefeated may be harder to accomplish than before.

    TEMPLE CITY CAN FIND A WAY TO WIN. Coach McFarland (in my opinion) has done an outstanding job in improving week to week. Our record is horrible, but it was expected to be that way. The team is a work in progress and you can see weak spots and areas of concern being addressed each week. Our QB is a sophomore and is getting better, making better choices, he is scrappy kid. We are tackling on defense. You just can’t allow endless time in the pocket on any level of football – a QB with no concern of being hit becomes a much better QB.
    I hope the Rosemead fiasco can be forgotten, the ref crew should recuse themselves or CIF should review what the hell went on Friday – it was a miscarriage. Not sure where this crew heads next, but beware if it is any stadium in which your team plays.

    Can’t wait to see the “former” coaches back on TC grass – if they ever stop watching the Rosemead film that is.
    Go Rams

    Stang Fan,
    can you summarize what Muir must do get 100% on track?

  • Realist 2.0

    Football Head,

    Jenkins was man to man on Lagace and 10 yards behind him was a saftey on top and next to the corner about 8 yards in, was a LB who played curls and slants. Three guys covering him. Muir got arrogant and tried to cover Lagace 1 on 1 which was possible with 4.5 40 DBs but Lagace is stud and we all know the results

  • Muir alum

    Kenny is a really good guy. He has done a lot of good things for alotta kids in Pasadena and I saw that for myself when I used to coach with the Pasadena Panthers in the 1990′s. He has a big heart and is a kind man but one thing he is not good at is coaching. I never knew how he got the job at Muir because he was the kind of coach who was always yelling and doing discipline stuff because he didn’t know much more. He may have learned more later but at the Panthers he barly knew the basic stuff. Like I said he’s a good guy but I don’t know how he ever became a high school coach. I went to Muir in the 1980′s and I would love to see us get back to our great days. I haven’t lived in Pasadena since 2003 to see my Mustangs but I know we can do way better because of our talent in the city. Crutch, Chad, Ricky, Hardy, where yall at?

  • Realist

    Realist 2.0-

    Ive been trying to tell people that Lagace is getting double and triple teamed EVERY down of every game. Everyone just thinks hes not producing. But look what he did against Muir in single coverage. Muir was supposed to have on of the best corners in the SGV. But Seymour was exposed. Lagace got open at will.

  • the critic

    realist:
    are you serious and by the way we know its possible to cover a 4.5 40….yeah i know you left out the “im” in impossible but real talk lagace cant out run anyone of muir corners besides #4 other than that you can kill it trying to pump his speed up oh and dennis rufus was on the top 150 and yeah he’s a senior but really dude your selling taylor as if he’s the best receiver ever stop it not with those numbers he’s not let taylor show something on the season first before you end up with a poker face at the end of the season when questioned about the great taylor…..now if you want to compare dennis rufus stats to his which they both play the same position taylor isnt even close to him… rufus without the last game stats added 30 catches 480 yards 9 td’s…lagace without last game stats added 22 catches 239 yards a 4 td’s and dennis rufus plays against way better competition..but according to you lagace is the best in the sgv well rufus is also in the sgv…and i dont wanna hear oh he’s a junior and rufus is a senior.

  • the critic

    wow realist:
    you said seymour was exposed he only caught a slant on seymour taylor lined up all over the field look dude taylor is a good player but your placing him up on a pedal stool no one is triple teaming him come on thats ridiculous in that case arcadia should be undefeated if every game there playing 8 against 10….dude get real and he only had 5 catches for a good 95 yards and 1 touchdown he had a great game we applaud that but man your starting to sound as if your taylor number 1 fan…

  • the critic

    ok realist 2.0 and realist which is the same dude or maybe brothers:
    i have one question what exactly has taylor done this year or last year to be considered the best receiver in the sgv, the numbers aren’t impressive at all being 80% of your teams offense. i just wanna know what makes him the best.

  • the critic

    one more fact realist:
    taylor isn’t even the leading receiver in the pacific league either karl holmes from muir stats before the arcadia game 11 catches for 316 yards but only 1 touchdown so far thats two receivers in the sgv who has more yards than taylor does receiving and the bad part about that taylor has more catches than karl and only 2 less than dennis so where is he the best at come on dude he’s a good player leave it at that stop trying to convince the sgv that he’s getting triple teamed and double teamed but has almost more catches than the other guys stop it..

  • the critic

    typo: 8 less than dennis rufus…..

  • Apache Joe

    My two cents,

    The beginning of the game was pretty obvious as to how important this game was to Arcadia from the beginning. For one, it was Muir, and two, it was Coach D’s opportunity at his 100th win. Muir should have known that this team was going to come out heated and ready to fire.

    Muir apparently came out a bit flat and obviously did not expect Arcadia to not come with a Power as the first play of the game. They threw a 48-yard bomb to Lagace which was completed and that set the tone for the rest of the game.

    The 1st half was all Arcadia after that first catch. Turnovers and penalties killed Muir, but give credit to Arcadia, they handled Muir in the first half.

    Lagace did have one of the biggest hits I have seen, but to the opposing players credit, it was a no-look shot with the receiver being helpless and I can’t give TOO much credit. What Lagace did do that makes him a great player, as a safety he came from the opposite hash to the playside hash in a second and made a huge hit. That is a high caliber play, not just the hit itself.

    Myles Carr did a great job. He did get close on a few throws but to his credit, they got through.

    The second half was a very even battle. Muir was able to run the ball with a spread trap that was pretty effective when spreading Arcadia’s backers out. It seemed like Muir woke up just a little bit, but at that point, the deficit and momentum was all Arcadia the whole game. It is tough to come back after playing a 1st half like they did.

    Credit to Muir for making a good attempt and credit to Arcadia for thwarting the Muir counter-attack in the second half.

    All in all, great win for Arcadia and an even better win for Coach Dimalante. Credit to his game planning and his experience in controlling the clock in the second half to grind the game out.

    I was actually very impressed by Arcadia’s defense. They ran to the ball well and tackled good enough to win. Muir will always have the athletes to break tackles, but rallying to the ball was key and Arcadia did it very well.

  • the critic

    apache joe:
    you summed that game up perfectly and your 100% right….we need more bloggers like you instead of me and the realist and the realist 2.0……

  • apache pride

    Eye in the sky. Did you just seriously call TL a team player? Wow.

  • Pardon the Interuption

    Does anyone happen to know where Blair will play its home game this Friday against Monrovia?…..PCC? Maybe

  • anon

    Monrovia vs Blair might be thursday night at Monrovia.

  • HOT ROD

    BLAIR VS MONROVIA is most likely playing at PHS since Muir is hosting CV that same night.
    PHS is Away @ Glendale (IN-N-OUT anyone??)
    I’m hungry already lol

  • Anonymous

    Monrovia vs Blair THURSDAY night @ Muir HS.

  • StangFan2

    karl holmes and dennis rufus are better than legace!

    Muir has to get Holmes the ball more simple as that!

  • youll never know

    Travis Talianko is better than legace check his stats from last year and this year and there in the same grade…..

    I HEARD THROUGH THE GRAPE VINE LEGACE IS ON STERIODS!

  • Inquiring Minds

    Who would Muir fans like to replace Coach Howard with next year? Which kind of coach could be successful there? Let’s start talking replacements now! Any thoughts? This is open to all bloggers too not just Muir fans!

  • Realist

    youll never know-

    Talianko will tell you himself that Taylor is the better player. And I know Taylor very well. Very religous, very respectful kid. And I know for a FACT, that Taylor would never touch steroids. He has great work ethic. His brother is a great javeline thrower and Taylor works out with him. Just because a player is strong doen’t mean hes on roids. Typical St. Francis blogger.

  • Realist

    critic-

    Ive told all you people before, I AM NOT realist 2.0. I have no idea who that is. So chill. And im not saying Taylor is the best ever. Im simply stating the facts. He does everything well. He blocks, runs solid routes, has great hands, and he is an extremly pgysical player. He is the most physical WR ive seen in a while. Ainsworth was all around a better reciever. But this rufus kid is not. You cant say that just because he has more yards recieving that he is a better player. Taylor produces on both sides of the ball. Not only that but he is a great kick returner. Thats more than you can say about Rufus. Again, im not saying that Rufus is not a good wide out. And im not saying that Taylor is better than him. But like i said before. He is only a junior, and he is till getting better.

  • the critic

    realist:
    ok i hear you but dennis rufus also defense and is a lock down corner lets not forget that he does everything that taylor does but at a higher and more physical level. ok taylor is only a junior so what dennis as a junior made 1st team c.i.f in the southeast division and won a championship excuse me two championship one as a sophmore to. now by rufus doing this and being highly scouted by other teams wouldnt you think he would draw a double team to…hmmmmmm i think so and yet he is still out doing your lagace….hey taylor lagace is one of my favorite receivers to but i’ve seen and trained much better receivers……

  • Realist

    critic-

    I agree, im not saying that there arent better recievers out there. But i mean the kid is only a junior. He has improved drastically from last year. All im saying is the kid ha another year to show offf his skills. The sky is the limit. And Taylor was winning awards as a sophmore also. Most good players do.

  • the critic

    Inquiring Minds said:
    man i say replace him with either coach harrington from alemany, coach tip sanders from duarte, or the monrovia coach…..

  • the critic

    realist:
    i just realized you went as far back as michael ainsworth to say you havent seen a better receiver than taylor since then WOW….arcadia alone has had great receivers after that and possibly better than taylor how about kevin walker or anthony freeman two guys from arcadia…not to mention muir receivers and pasadena receivers i can go back to 2002 with ryan graves when he was a junior who caught more than 100 balls in that season and currently holds the mustangs record….how about trumpet harrison a 5 foot nothing receiver but caught for a thousand yards in back to back seasons man the list goes on come on realist show a little respect for the ones before taylor…..if im wrong my bad maybe i jumped to conclusion on what you were trying to say…..but these are facts oh yeah and the guy from st. francis is a beast i forgot about him…..matbe because i hate st. francis

  • Realist

    No no no. I am not saying he is the best since Ainsworth. All I meant to say was that he is one of the most complete player since Ainsworth. I played with Kevin Walker, Armon Binns, and Harrison. All good players. But none of them were as good defensivly as Taylor. Taylor is a very impressive defender. Not just hard hitting, but he covers alot of ground in the secondary. Im not saying he is the best… but he needs to be talked about in the conversation of the best in the valley.

  • Realist

    critic-

    We can both agree on one thing. St Francis is flaming and i hate them as well.

  • Realist 2.0

    The Critic,

    I can confirm that I do not know “Realist” although he is right on with his analysis but he can be blunt and harsh sometimes, but try to put up with it because you can learn from him or just give up. Quite easy, ey? Sorry, that is my Canadian coming out.

  • the critic

    realist:
    ok realist i respect your opinion but what about arness ikner he played both sides and caught for a thousand also….or what about deitric riley as a freshmen and a sohpmore before getting turned into a running back now he was actually the best receiver and defender in the sgv and possibly better than mike ainsworth was. and i agree taylor could be involved in conversation about good all around players but just mentioned nothing really to debate about…….
    realist 2.0
    dude i can teach you history on great high school players going back as far as sam brunston and or michael graham or players such as blair lewis, deandre scott, kenny pritchett, hudson gossard, michael wagner darryl moore, akil harris, sulton mcculough, kelvan price, anthony train thomas and etc…..so asking me to quit is not an option you probably dont even recognize the only arcadia player i named on that list…..dude get real

  • Realist

    I am gaining more and more respect for you each post you have. The only thing about Dietric Riley is he was a far better running back than he was a WR. And Adarius Bailey was a better running back than Riley. I can agree that Riley was a GREAT defensive player. But he was not a standout reciever. He was a special defender though and a special running back. But WR not so much. But Ikner was a great player. Prolly better than Lagace is at this point in time. But with some fine tuning, I think Lagace has the lead. We will just have to wait for him to mature going into his senior season. Should be special.

  • the critic

    realist:
    i can agree with that…but not the part where adarius was better than riley. adarius was a small back and elusive but riley was much faster and more powerful now adarius older brother ajulius bailey i can say was better than both of them….ima be looking out for taylor for the next two weeks to see if he lives up to the hype im pretty sure the burbank game is going to be difficult for him though they run a fifty defense and is well disciplined but he should have a field day against burroughs. my alemany warriors are off this upcoming week so i got some time to check out this pacific league.

  • Lagace would have to be better than Zion Babb before you could compare to Ainsworth.

    We often throw out names and make comparisions, that should not compared.Taylor Lagace as a complete player vs Micheal Ainsworth as a complete player. Those are two different types of complete. Taylor is good in all areas, but he is not great at anything on either side of the ball. He has good size,good speed, but he is not elusive. Is he a better player than Zion Babb? We do not have to go back as far as Ainsworth, Ive seen Lagace play. With Improvement, he may be able to play in the mountain west, maybe even at washington state. However, Monrovia Shut him out he had like 1 catch for like 9 yrds, got beat on some pass plays too…He is not in the same league as a Micheal Ainsworth. Best in the west… All State, all LA times, CIF division player of year as a junior, All CIF as a senior. 2 time leauge MVP, and recruited by every college in america. A player who could start on either side of the ball at a BCS School. We are talking about someone who had 18 Career interceptions(11 as a junior) with 5-6 int td returns over 70 career tackles. Around 800 yards receiving two years straight over 5 pumt return TDs. 4 kick off return TD’s. Lagace is not playing on that level. Now Deidrich was Dam good in HS, one the best all purpose players in Valley History. He deserves to be in the conversation with all time greats. Even though Riley was physically stronger, He was not more skilled and He was not a better WR or DB than Ainsworth, nor a better Running back than Sultan or Harris. However, Ainsworth was two time West SGV MVP, and earned it against comprable players… Deidrich did not have anyone close to his ability to challenge him for All Star news MVP. But 97 had all types to great players and stats masters that year, Including all the all area players on his team. Ainsworth beat out these guys for Valley MVP twice does Dedrich Riley win MVP against these guys?…Here is some big names you may remember. in 97. All of these players were just amazing.

    Sultan Mccullogh Muir -USC all american
    Anthony Kelly Muir -Washington
    Lashaun Ward Muir-Cal
    Sean Phillips PHS-Oregon State
    Akil Harris Monrovia-UCLA all american
    Blair Lewis -(East-West Game Mvp) Pac ten Caliber athlete.

  • Reno Hightower

    Reno is a little mad. Reno thought the blog was to talk about hs sports; football in particular. Reno believes that ripping any kid, spreading false information, and such nonsense is a no-no.

  • Goldenarm

    Desmond Reed should be on your list.

    ARCADIA – Apache Joe
    Nice recap.
    When you talk defense, props need to extend to Randy Backus, now entrenched on the Apache staff, with only a bit of pale green/gold fading rapidly from his skin.
    He is an excellent defensive coach and motivator, and can really teach the linebacker position. With Backus, Arcadia scored a highly dedicated and football focused dude, and you can see he is a great fit with Coach D.
    I bet if you asked the Arcadia kids, they would have plenty to say about RB.

    are “critic” and “realist” split personalities – as in the same person?

  • Anonymous

    Realist and Critic-

    “Hate” is a pretty strong word. And, “flaming”???? What has St. Francis done to make you so bitter?

  • the critic

    goldenarm:
    LOL….man me and the realist isnt the same person…

    Lagace would have to be better than Zion Babb before you could compare to Ainsworth. said:

    aye you made a good point i completely forgot about zion babb out of alhambra right…yeah not that much talent down there in that league but he was awesome….but mentioning sean phillips out of p.h.s come on dude he was as soft as mothers love i know the guy personally and he wasnt even the marquee player at p.h.s try karl hailey or anthony train thomas who was a standout player at the university of arizona, sean was a good high school player but shouldn’t be talked about when you mention players like the list you have up there…and in my opinion going a little off subject but lashaun ward is probably the best athlete on that list…..but were talking about complete all around players that plays both sides of the ball….now aisworth yeah he was a man child out of monrovia but he had it his way over there and was about 70% of monrovia’s offense so he should of out played them players. but sulton mcculough should had won m.v.p rushing for more than 2000 yards on a team loaded with talent around the board not saying that monrovia wasnt talented but they didnt have as much talent as that muir team in 96-97 season. muir that year was going against the top caliber teams like Lb poly, Locke, bishop amat, (mike wagner) notre dame (justin fargas) mike wasnt playing teams like that and you know it. but mike was also a standout player in baseball too so its not really anything i can take away from mike. mike was awesome…but zion babb come on he was a great player but once again he played at alhambra. im the type thats not giving too much respect out to players that really isnt playing against talent..michael smith out of central florida rushing for 2000 yards in college wasnt even considered a heisman candidate because of who he played against. now zion showed that he was wayyyyyyy better than any one player in that league mike played against some stellar talent and lagace is playing against probably better talent than zion has ever played against at alhambra so to throw zion out there nah ill take taylor…….and im not even a taylor fan.

  • BigA

    Muir can we put #76 back at LT please #65 was getting beat all night long never saw #65 get beat like that at LG

  • Realist

    critic-

    I had the distinct pleasure of playing with Adarius. And I know for a fact that he was a better running back than Riley. Adarius ran a low 4.4 40. And he was a small shifty back, but when he needed to he would run someone over. Very physical back that could do anything you asked of him. And he played against some very very good teams. And in every one of those games he put up amazing numbers. He only fumbled once in his senior season. He was the kind of guy that would make more than one defender tackle him. He is the best runningback i saw in person. Riley wans’t close to him. Riley got recruited for his defensive ability. Not his running ability. Everytime he touched the ball he was a threat to take it the distance. And like i said, ive seen him run multiple people over. He is your ideal all around back. The only reason he is not playing on Saturdays is because of his school troubles which is very sad to see.

  • the critic

    muir needs to get rid o0f all there coaches and bring in a hard nose coach that knows football and wont allow any non-sense muir plus discipline and coaching would lead to a championship….too much talent and speed over there to have a terrible 1-4 record….smh fire the staff….

  • BigA

    Jeff Davis is not over what happend in week 1 when he took that huge hit and thats ok it was a big hit but the coaches have to see that and get him over it or put in the back up you cant play football and be scared to take a hit

  • BigA

    @the critic I think the OC at muir should be the first to go

  • the critic

    BigA:
    man who you tellin that oc should of been let go…then the dc to them dudes dont know how to stop a simple zone read run….i say let the whole staff go and get a coach in there thats hard core…yeah jeff is stilled rattled but as you can see he wasnt taught to read the field he had receivers running wide open and never looked there way….that goes back to coaching…..

  • the critic

    realist:
    yeah adarius was a good back he had it all he reminds me of just recent running back malcom marable who now attends oregon state from pasadena but played at alemany same with adarius from pasadena but played at arcadia. and yeah riley got recruited for defense but was also considered a running back on numerous college recruit list and even at u.c.l.a they still work on him in a wild cat situation riley also is from pasadena…and yeah it is sad to hear about adarius school problems his brother had the same problems but adarius also has some of the worst knee problems a running back can have. I KNOW YOUR PROBABLY TIRED OF ME SAYING THAT THEY WERE FROM PASADENA BUT I MENTION IT BECAUSE IT BOTHERS ME TO SEE HOW MUCH TALENT LEAVES THE CITY…

  • BigA

    he look at his fist read then after that he a dear in headlights

  • the critic

    realist:
    now i think about it adarius was a better running back then riley but with riley you can get way more out of him pounding covering the field from side line to side line and crucial hits…

  • BigA

    Sad how they dont stay in dena but you cant blame them our schools and football programs don’t have the stuff together but i sure do wish Dennis Rufus was out there playin for muir right now tho that kid is nice

  • the critic

    BigA:
    mannnnn you aint lying if his first read is covered he’s lost and dont know what to do…..but that fall back on coaching if you never played quarter back or understand the qb position you cant teach it…and to my knowledge not one person on muir staff has ever taken a snap…

  • Anonymous

    idk youd think a team with 40 players and 10 coaches would be well coached

  • BigA

    40 player 10 comment was coaches was me for the record

  • the critic

    BigA:
    man if they had dennis rufus, vernon adams, saladin mcculough, stanley mitchell jr., cameron washington, deron smith, ryan jenkins, and etc….muir would probably be the best team in the sgv no not probably they would be the best….and if they had 10 coaches to what would had been 40 players that would had led to numerous of championships..

  • the critic

    those players that i named are from pasadena and should had went to muir….but chose other schools…..

  • BigA

    Ya i know all about Alemany got more Pasadena talent Then Pasadena high but like i said can blame the kids there just doing whats best for them

  • Great points

    to Big A and Critic.

    I feel your pain, with players leaving. Monrovia has the same issue. Over the past five years, Monrovia has lost numerous players… Here are a few players who came out of the Duarte Hawks Program that should have played for the cats. But other programs provided them with better opportunities to win a title. Some did played on the freshman team and some just never attended or Moved during 8th grade….These are all Cif caliber D1 players. The Cats Finally have a coach who will keep players around because he is trying to build a program… isn’t Rodney Glass former Star from Sherman Oaks from Dena? Its still woulda coulda shoulda though. Both Programs have to keep it tight and keep their players.

    Aj Powell, Charter Oak ’09
    Adam Muema Charter Oak ’09
    leon Youngblood Charter Oak ’09
    Brandon Golden Charter Oak ’09
    BJ lee West Covina ’10
    Gevontray Ainsworth Soph ’10
    Benny Robinson Upland ’10

  • Lagace would have to be better than Zion Babb before you could compare to Ainsworth

    Critic, Its really hard to Say Lagace is Better than Babb based upon league talent. For Example….Monrovia is a lower Division than Arcadia and Muir. They Totally Man Handled Arcadia, They almost shut them out. Do you think Muir would beat Monrovia this year? They started two Sophomore DB’s, One at Saftey and one at Corner. Lagace had 1 catch for 9 yards. When dealing with SGV football Especially with Monrovia and pasadena, Some years you just have monster teams loaded with talent. NO doubt Muir has traditionally played some tougher comp. Iam just saying that every year is different. I played on the Mtown 97 team. We could have played the same schedule as Muir, that year and possibly had the same results. We ended up losing to Mira Costa, who went on to Move up to division 2 the next year, and won that division twice in the early 2000′s. Monrovia lost to muir when they had ajulius Hall, but beat the once after that. They also went 1-1 against Daimond bar when they were d2 powers. Now in 97 if you replace hoover and glendale with monrovia, it would have been nuts in the pacific. Muir, PHS, Arcadia and CV. Monrovia was ranked number 1 in Football and Baseball that year in the star news. We played Muir in Passing league, and it was very competetive. There were Great matchups like… Ward Gaurding Ainsworth…and Well Ainsworth got his, and Ward, covered did a great job too. it was passing league, so who really knows. Ainsworth also went up Against Weathersby, who was the best corner in the Valley in 97 point blank….We also had Akil Harris who rushed for over 5000 yds in his career. So it is what is is. When someone wins MVP of the SGV, they deserve it. They Factor in everything. But on back on topic. Lagace is a D1 talent, but is he an all timer? Idk. He wont win MVP of the SGV. bueno will get that award. But Anyhow you make soe good points!

  • Say what?

    Is somebody really comparing Lagace to Zion Babb?
    Really?

    First of all Babb graduated back in 2006 so why even bring his name up or compare?
    Zion Babb was one the most talented high school wr’s
    I have ever seen coming from sgv. Can anybody tell me the last player at any position from sgv who got a Scholly
    to MICHIGAN? NONE
    kid was 6’3 39 inch vert, legit 4.4 speed along
    with 2nd in the state 110mtr hurdles 13.7!
    He was a beast…he tranfered soon as Rodriguez came in
    but I heard he’s somewhere…..hope he continues
    that kid has all the tools to play on sunday’s…
    Good luck to both kids Legace n’ Babb!

  • the critic

    Say what?
    i cant tell you who got one to michigan out of the sgv well fargas did but he was in sherman oaks and a running back…zion was a good receiver but not the best…but i can tell you some receivers who did receive scholarship to some big name colleges out of the sgv…i wont give too many names but ryan graves out of muir signed with u.c.l.a kevin walker from arcadia signed with oregon state and etc…..i can go on all night naming sgv receivers who received d1 scholarships ….babb was good but he went to alhambra i guess when he got to michigan just running right by 5feet nothing corners didnt work anymore..

    Lagace would have to be better than Zion Babb before you could compare to Ainsworth said:
    yeah you right it would be lovely to have monrovia in the pacific league they should be there and truthfully i think muir would give them a heck of a challenge this year to. but that 97′ muir team was too fast not only did they have the fastest 4×100 realay team in they secondary but the fastest person in california at running back in sulton mcculough (hurt hamstring in the state finals) but i agree monrovia is a tough and talented team and could had competed against the same teams…but when you hit league and you play against a bunch of nobody’s its an easy road….muir in 97′ had kenny pritchett from c.v karl hailey, anthony thomas from pasadena blair lewis from arcadia, those are all d1 prospects in high school in the pacific league….not saying that monrovia didnt play against some d1 prospects but i doubt any like those i named…..

  • ATown

    The Critic,

    Can’t ignore that ’97 arcadia team that went to the semi finals in CIF, an amazing run with Blair Lewis PCC All Americam Idaho, Andrew Policky, Scott Weigand UCLA, Hassan Abdul Malik illions state, Chuck Leonardis West New Mexico, Donald Curry Fresno state, Qnicy Williams Arkansas State, Nick Shultz Georgetown and others.

    Talent in the 90′s was insane across the board in the SGV, better than anytime and way better than now.

  • The 3 best wr in west SGV ….Lagace is good, so is holmes, so is henderson

    @Say what…

    Lagace is a good wr.. he would start on most teams today. Its a good thing that people are talking about him. However some are saying he is one of the best they have seen since Ainsworth. Babb was another level athletically than Lagace. However, He did alot of things based on athleticism. His routes and hands were not elite. I say lagace he is good but has alot to prove. He should get a offer..but I am not sure it will be pac ten. He still has a year to impress some scouts. Some muir fans may be trying to hype him to cover up that Muir is not that good this season. They will be fighting for 3rd place now…I don’t know if 3 will get in. If Arcadia wins or comes in second place, Arcadia’s lost to Monrovia really hurt that leagues strength. and Muir does not have a quality win… San Gabriel lost to South pas, and played Burbank really close, beat hoover….and hoover lost to Sierra Vista from the weak montview league. Glendale also lost to lower division teams as well. CV barely beat La Canada. I got mad respect for Muir. To me Holmes is a better prospect, but they got to get him the ball in space or go down field. Thats all. They got the talent but, now it is starting to look like lack of coaching. Monrovia a lower division team spanked arcadia really bad. They had started 2 sophmores one at saftey and one corner. Collectively the shut him down. Lagace only had 3 catches for 12 yards, no score. Hendrson from monrovia outshined him that night scoring twice on him. I am suprised Lagace he had almost 100 against muir. They must not have got any pressure on the QB. Anyhow give arcadia props, Muir normally owns them, but not this year…

  • the critic

    ATown:
    oh no way would i ever forget about that team now that arcadia team was scary…. i was just explaining to another blogger that the pacific league was loaded in 97′ with of course the two door mat teams but that was the year……

  • Amen to 97 football

    @ Atown

    You are correct! The 90′s were loaded…. However you still got to give props to the players of the 80′s Because Muir, Monrovia, Arcadia and PHS were loaded with D1′s and Pro players.

    Muir, Monrovia, and Arcadia finished…

    1.Monrovia
    2.Arcadia
    3.Muir

    Star news team 97 notables from the top three schoools

    Player of the year
    Micheal Ainsworth monrovia All State

    QB
    Lashaun Ward muir national recriut All CIF

    Running Backs
    Sultan Mccoullah Muir All American
    Akil Harris Monrovia All American

    WR
    Elonte Vaughn Muir at least all league
    Scott Policky Arcadia at least all league

    OL
    Scott Wiegand Arcadia Best in State
    Jerry Hemmingway Monrovia all CIF

    Tight End
    Anthony Kelly Muir All State

    LB
    Chuck Leonardis Arcadia All CIF

    DE
    Paul Escarsega Monrovia All CIF
    Jamal Bourne Monrovia All CIF

    DB
    Blair Lewis Arcadia All CIF JC All American

    K Adam Summerell Monrovia All leauge(Top Baseball player)

    If there are any old school peeps out there, throw out some History for us youngsters so we don’t forget who was great!

  • New York

    Monrovia’s win over Arcadia should not “hurt” the perceived quality of Pacific League. Monrovia is in a lower division but Monrovia’s talent is comparable to good mid-division teams.

    Monrovia dominated Arcadia on the line of scrimmage and that led to a one-sided second half. Monrovia’s ability to keep Carr in the pocket led to a long night of Carr getting knocked around.

  • New York

    All this talk about players past is fun. To be perfectly honest, there were a ton of guys with big talent who never made a name for themselves. Then there were a lot of players without much recruitable talent but played like maniacs back then. Frankly, a lot of the hits back then would probably be flagged as personal fouls these days.

    One thing is obvious in sports: To the victor go the spoils with post season accolades. Earlier Monrovia teams had very talented players, but the 1997 team finally had enough discipline to win games…therefore their names are remembered.

    Lesson to all the youngsters: lead your teams to victory and you will be remembered.

  • Atown

    Amen to ’97,

    Arcadia’s Andrew Policky was 1st team ALL CIF at arcadia in 1997. Started at PCC with Blair Lewis. Now he is coaching at hoover. 1995 season had a ton of talent in the area as well. I would say 1994-1998 was the core years of talent.

  • the critic

    ATown:
    are you sure the rankings ended like that if im not mistaking muir won the pacific league that year and beat blair lewis and arcadia…i doubt that 97′ muir team finished 3rd after going to the second round only to lose to justin fargas at sherman oak notre dame…but who cares that was the past we all got our opinions who was better but monrovia didnt play muir that year but arcadia did.. hey that probably was the most exciting season ever you had the fastest and biggest athletes going head to head….the 80′s well yeah they were talented to but the entire early 90′s to the late 90′s was pure athleticism…muir fell off in 98 but got back on track in the 99-00 season with kelvan price at qb and that year monrovia did beat muir with a 50 yard field goal as time expired man that was a game the qb for muir showed up late to the game to bring them back but monrovia had what muir didnt have that year and that was a d1 kicker….morovia won 12-10 that year and that year arcadia had anthony freeman who eventually shared the pacific league m.v.p. with kelvan price from muir…muir beat arcadia that year to but in a tight close game…

  • The real deal

    I know you guys are saying legace is 4.5 or 4.4 40 Yds Dash? are you kidding me HOLMES is the fastest and most explosive receiver in the pacific leauge…. but there OC is terrible!

    Holmes also played corner some of the arcadia game and legace didnt have a catch on him!

    hes muirs best player get him the rock!

  • valley guy

    the real deal:
    karl holmes is not muir’s best player if karl had heart then i would say he’s the best player but running out of bounds when in the open field or on 4th down when all he had to do was lower his shoulder and fall forward in the saugus game come on man karl is just a deep threat he has no open field moves but he is explosive you have to be fast in order to cover him…muir’s best player has to go to either kevon seymour, tairen owens or that little guy mcfadden those dudes has heart and major speed they are just as fast as karl and more athletic karl is fourth or possibly third on the team as best player….

  • Atown

    The Critic,

    Yes, Muir beat arcadia in ’97 at Muir and won league. Anthony Kelly had one of the best one handed catches in the end zone that I have ever seen. I know for a fact arcadia went deeper in CIF than Muir. Arcadia lost to Arroyo Grande 16-0, one game away from the finals.

  • The Real Deal

    @ Valley Guy

    you must be a karl holmes hater….. he doesnt even get the ball that much 2 even see what he can do but from what i seen he can play…… its sad that muirs oc is not not good enough to get him the rock….

    99yds i seen that in the paper!

  • 4.4-4.5 forty yard dash time is the top 5% of all high school Football players

    @ the real deal,

    I agree with you. I am not bashing the kid. When talking speed, you must factor in hand times vs Accutract times. Lagace is a big WR, but he is no 4.4 40! NO doubt Holmes is Faster and maybe Seymour. To say he runs that fast would say he would be as Fast a Lashaun Ward, Blair Lewis, Mike Ainsworth, Dennis Weatherby, Zion Babb, Akil harris, Diedrich Riley or any of the speed guys to come out of Muir, PHS Monrovia or Arcadia. Sultan is not even in this conversation. His skill set is his physical play. If seen Him play, and he had a tough time getting behind the Speedy Monrovia Corners. Id say he is a high 4.6 to mid 4.7 right now. Thats if you time him on accutract. He has another year to get faster, and you can expect him to grow a inch or two before college….He is good and has upside. I am sure someone will pick him up. But No I would not say he is a explosive speed guy. He is a possession wr at best. He might even be better as a Strong Saftey in College.

  • the critic

    ATown:
    yeah arcadia made it further but…now this might sound dumb but didnt back then when playoffs came muir played in a higher division or was the whole pacific league in division 3…i thought back then they did it how they do it in basketball for example muir plays in division 3 in basketball but pasadena plays in division 1a and both teams are in the pacific league i dont remember arcadia ever running into sherman oak notre dame or hart and etc…..as a matter of fact they had to had been in different playoffs division they just recently well about 8 years ago changed the format up….

  • valley guy

    the real deal:
    NEVER a karl holmes hater or anyone on muir i was just stating facts…..and if you were at the games you would know im not lying. but like i said if karl showed a little more heart then he possibly would be the best receiver on the team not athlete or player. karl is a big part of what should be muir’s success the “OC” yes is probably the worst “OC” in the pacific league shoot probably the sgv…but if karl doesnt present a deep threat then the offense will never open up….and yeah he had a 98 yarder he’s capable of doing that just as well as seymour and mcfadden all three are neck to neck in speed if you talking 40 speed karl actually comes in third now 100 meter speed or 60 yard speed karl wins…BUT ME A HATER NEVER…I GUESS FACTS COMES OFF THAT WAY.

  • The Real Deal

    @ Valley Guy…… yes it seems to me youre a hater and i have seen a game or two and hes good he should b strating both ways,im a very huge fan of the guy since he was running track this past year… the kids been through alot and all you wanna do is take the only thing the kids has… btw karl is only the leading recevier on the team according 2 maxpreps!

    karls an all around good kid!

  • Who’s the best in the West SGV? Only head up games tells the truth all else is speculation

    @Atown

    No Doubt, all three team in 97 were special and very good. In 97 muir was in Division 2 and Arcadia was in division 3. Monrovia was in Division 9. Muir played a tough sherman oaks team. Arcadia played a tough Arroyo Grande Team. Monrovia played a tough Mira Costa Team. Funny thing is Mira Costa came down several divisions in 97, but after beating Monrovia, they went up to Division 2 and won it back to back years. CIF was crazy back then. There were teams who should have been Higher up, in lower divisions, and teams in higher divisions should not have been there. For example. What the hell is Glendale, and Hover doing in Pacific? San Gabriel Valley teams should get together and always play eachother to settle who’s best…Whenever teams are good, its always arguable who is best. For Example, in 97, Muir beat Arcadia and PHS, but did not play Monrovia. Arcadia did not play Monrovia that year, so who knows who was better better Between them. Some will say Muir would have won, but Monrovia ended up being #1 that year. Monrovia was capable of the upset. If they would have played, that would have settle that argument. Just like Monrovia beat Arcadia bad, and Arcadia beat Muir by the same score. Does that mean Monrovia would beat MUir? St Francis gave up 27 pts to Arcadia…Does that mean that Monrovia’s defense is better than St Francis and Monrovia would win? I don’t know. Until teams lock up, we can only speculate.

    these teams should always play
    Preseason Schedules

    Muir already plays Arcadia and PHS so they should always play….
    Monrovia
    St Francis

    Arcadia already plays St Francis, and monrovia, PHS, and Muir so they are set.

    Monrovia plays Arcadia so they just need to play..
    St Francis
    Muir
    PHS

  • valley guy

    real deal:
    it figures that your a big fan of him because your opinions are bias and if you know anything about the muir team karl holmes is probably the worst tackler on the team and any player im just stating facts and yeah he is the leading receiver with saying that how many times have he punched it in the end zone lets see 2 time this year with 389 yards on 14 catches nice stats but he’s not the best player tairen owens has 6 touchdowns leading the team besides jeff the quarter back…but once again it may sound like im hating but im not karl is a awesome receiver but in my opinion he’s nowhere near the best player on the team thats just my opinion relax dude and attend more muir games then you’ll see..and muir is good enough to get it to the receivers did you see what happen when they went deep to karl in the arcadia game karl completely gave up and allowed the man to intercept the ball go watch the film you’ll see what im talking about….

  • Anonymous

    Who’s the best in the West SGV? Only head up games tells the truth all else is speculation said: Good assesment. I think when talking about these teams and making comparisons, we always seem to settle on the Offensive side of the ball, but in reality what makes one team always stand out is it’s Defense. Monrovia has always had that balance that cannot be denied. In 97 Monrovia was only giving up an average of 7pts. per game and the offense was scoring at a rate of 28 plus points per game. I see the same kind of statistics surrounding this years team. Once you measure out your teams real problems most will make the same assesments. The SGV westside teams have always been top heavy in offensive playmakers but a lot of teams refuse to focus some of those players on the defensive side of the ball. St. Francis is forced to comply with their league foes and must play great defense to even stay in the game. Offense is their achilies heal. My final assesment of all three schools is that Muir is top heavy on the O and St. Francis is Top heavy on the D and Monrovia has a pretty good balance of both. If Muir played better Defense their offense will come to life.

  • valley guy

    the real deal

    why is it that were talking sports and you throw his personal life into the conversation. that has nothing to do with what were talking about do you really think the opposing team cares about whats going on off the field for certain players and give them their way NO so it was no need for you to put his business out there to make a point….get real being bias and talking sports makes you look like an a**. like i said facts must hurt you alot look he’s a good player i love the kid but facts are facts.

  • valley guy

    Anonymous dude:
    I agree with you but in 97′ muir defense was awesome too..ok LB poly put up 42 points on them in one half which muir had them beat it was 21-0 at the half of that game muir winning…and they was leading bishop amat to which was a closer game 35-21 final… after that muir didnt allow that many points on them at all especially when it came down to league play…monrovia had it kind of easy in their league though you have to agree with that but like you said monrovia was a balanced team but so was muir that year…and i dont think muir offense will open up at all this year even if the D do step up that o-coordinator at muir is terrible….give us monrovia coach and we’ll probably be 4-1….

  • the critic

    what muir had defense in 97′ only those two teams put up points on them. the playoff game against sherman oaks was close to, but no one else man c.v had kenny pritchett at tail awesome then had to face polikey and blair lewis at arcadia then had to face karl hailey and sean phillips at p.h.s and thats after facing mike wagner from bishop amat.and not to mention how many d1 players was on lb. poly that year man muir had it tough that year they would had blown st. francis out and possibly beat up on monrovia pretty good to but monrovia was definitely the only team i think was able to upset muir that year st.francis stop it arcadia muir took care of…

  • we will ever know….

    in 97 all of those games would have been close. When you are talking about playing against LB Poly or old school notre dame. you can play with them or get ahead of them for a half, but they will wear you down. A muir or Monrovia, or even Arcadia, is not deep enough to win those games. LB poly or ND dont have players going both Ways, and they got guy after guy to throw at you. Sultan went both ways, so did lashuan, so did anthony kelly. Monrovia had less players going both ways. Now if Muir plays Monrovia 97…Muir would be the Favorites.. Sultan would break a few, Kelly was a great run stopper, Ward was a athlete… you would have to keep him in the pocket, but it would be close, and mornovia would get up for that game. Its like playing a turkey tussle. Anything could happen. Akil harris was a big physical punishing back, a little better than pritchard and lewis. And well ainsworth was ungardable. If monrovia gets good QB play, it would be close. Defense would be huge in that game. Monrovia had a great defense with Ron Givan, Jamal Bourne, Earvin Baker and Paul escarsega … those guys playd D1AA..they did receive the pub the muir players or Ainsworth did, but they were good together as a unit. We can’t Rewind the clock, but its fun to take a look back in time…

  • the critic

    we will never know….
    yeah you right i like how you put that and broke it down but like your name WE WILL NEVER KNOW…i wish our schools was as deep as the ploy’s and notre dames all man it would be ugly man if pasadena shut down Blair, Marshall, La salle, and Maranantha and only left p.h.s and muir man pasadena would be dominant….i feel the same way about if the city of duarte didnt have a high school and sent everyone to Monrovia it’ll be some scary games throughout the sgv….and those schools poly and etc. would have they a**es handed to them every time they met up with either muir, p.h.s, or monrovia…but thats wishful thinking but hey its always fun to imagine what could possibly happen….

  • Realist

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8_MkhciOAA

    All im gunna say is OMG!!!!

  • valley guy

    realist:
    just saw the you tube hit nice hit but why lie he did not go to sleep he got right up and came back in three plays later smh…

  • Moneytalks

    We forgot about Jesse Canada out of Monrovia (2005) that went to CAL as a WR with Deshawn Jackson.

  • the critic

    moneytalks
    man jesse canada was over rated now his little brother jordan is awesome…mannnn jesse went to cal and came right back to mt.sac not hating but he was a pump up case…

  • New York

    Realist,
    Thanks for posting the hit you’ve been clammering about. My gosh! What an overstatement. It’s not as if these guys went head up. The WR slightly jumped for a catch and had not even landed yet and was looking the other way. It was a good hit, but it was magnified by the fact that the WR’s feet were not yet on the ground and therefore had no force to counteract the hit.

    No, I am not knocking Lagace because I do think he is a good football player. I am knocking “Realist” who has totally blown this kid up from day one…except after the Monrovia game.

  • Realist

    Nobody game Lagace any credit before the season. All the hype was about Bueno. And even if the poor kid got his feet set Taylor would have had a huge hit. And he was down for a good 2 minutes. Im glad he is ok. The best part of the hit is where Lagace came from to make the hit. He came from the far hash. That is what makes it such a good play.

  • valley guy

    realist
    STOP LYING 2 MINUTES all i wanna know is did the guy catch the ball and did he continue the game…and the kid was in the air when he got hit smh….so if he was down for two minutes i doubt if he was able to continue due to a concussion so it really wasnt that hard now if that was me and the other guy was you there is no way you would had continued the paramedics would had taken you off the field… IT WAS A NICE HIT BUT YOU MADE SEEM AS IF THE KID WAS ABLE TO DEFEND HIMSELF….

  • the critic

    realist:
    you back at it huh….man give it a rest Lagace is a good player we established that. now the hit was a good hit we established that but now that i look at the hit more and more i didnt realize that his feet wasnt even on the ground so that kind of take away from the way you PUMPED that hit up “and i quote” (realist)said “man that was the hardest hit in hs football history it was harder than when chris mack broke that guys ribs”…now if im not mistaking that kid got up and continued the game..(off subject a little bit oh yeah one more thing realist i personally went over to muir to ask the coach how many tackles did the kid have that got hit he said 17 so i was off by two)…..back to discussion yeah Lagace coverage on that play was good coming from one hash to the other. but the qb from muir totally set the kid up though…….

  • New York

    Realist,
    Why would anyone give him credit BEFORE the season? Heck, BEFORE the Monrovia game some Arcadia folk were saying this kid was better than Mike Ainsworth… maybe when Ainsworth was still at Clifton! Frankly, Ainsworth would have picked Nick twice if he had been wearing Lagace’s uniform that night.

  • Realist 2.0

    Ok, it was a good hit, nothing more nothing less. Can we move on? There is still a lot of ball left.

    Realist, I am turning against you now. Therefore, I have no choice but to retire this name. i was your sole supporter on this blog but I believe you have a new man crush.

  • Realist

    Was posting the video a bit much?? hahahaha I felt like some people needed to see it so they would stop hating on Lagace. Man crush??? cmon mah dude

  • Let People earn their stripes!

    West SGV Family,

    Alot of us played in the west SGV. Some of us were very good players. Some of us were legendary. We have so much pride in our own and school accomplishments. In no way am i trying to down grade anyone one of these young men. I commend them for stepping on the grid Iron. Some will go on to college, and develope and maybe become legend later on. However, players have to earn status, and they will only get evaluated on a star news blog for what they do in west SGV play. This does not go for Lagace only. Its for all west Sgv players…and the people saying…”Oh this guy is like a (fill in a legends name here) For example was Sultan the best RB at muir? He was the fastest, but was he the best. There were alot of great ones. I would say he was one of the best, but there were others. Since we are talking about Lagace this week, we will use Mike Ainsworth. Was he the best WR in Monrovia history…I would say he is one of the best too. Now both of these players are legendary because of their stats but also because of their impact on the game. In their junior seasons they had remarkable national performances. Sultan Rush for 2000 yrds and Ainsworth Had 11 interceptions! They followed up the next year with simular results. Sultan was the fastest high schooler in the usa. Ainsworth was a standout Baseball player. Thats legendary status. Lagace Still has major work to put in before he deserves to be a compared to such players. These guys were best in state all americans… Seriously would he match up against Ainsworth? Or a Chris Mack. Those guys came from a different pedigree….Saladin McCollugh was Awsome…Greg Ainsworth Was Awsome. If Lagace can put up those kinds of #’s and become “Best in State” then he deserves to be a legend….He is good, but up until now he has not perform on that level…We will see. After next year we can come back and take a look and see what he was!

  • the critic

    hahahahaha….the realist 2.0
    man you just now figuring that out….hahahahahaha
    aye (realist): i was starting to make mends with you but dude you are like riding TL jock strap….

  • valley guy

    Let People earn their stripes! said:
    West SGV Family,

    aye now those are words we should all read and tell this guy or women that their right….let Lagace perform on that level 1st before you put him up there….and so far truthfully his stats shows average player…

  • We will never know

    At the Critic

    Long Beach is a huge city. Poly is a super school and has 4000 plus students,and all of the good kids who go to millikan, and Jordan funnel their way there. Thats the size of PHS and Muir put together. Pasadena is big too, but after PHS and Muir the other schools are really small, and Athletically challenged. They don’t have kids from all over coming there to play. Notre Dame is Private school, which can hand pick its players. They are like a machine. People pay to send their kid there. The Muir, PHS’s and the monrovia’s have neighborhood kids. There talent is divide.In the past, If you put Muir and PHS together. They would give poly some major issues. If Monrovia and Duarte were together they would give poly a run. They also would play eachother. That game would bring california football to its knees. The SGV is full of small neighborhoods, who don’t want to be big, they want small schools. Gang activity, has made it impossible to combine schools. Black and Latino… all of dena at one school? All of Monrovia and Duarte kids at one school? Then them playing eachother ever year….I don’t know if we could have pulled that off in the 80′s and 90′s. They really don’t want to deal with having all those kids at one school. Also, in the past ten years, Muir and Monrovia players have been taken by other schools to help them in the skills area. That’s a fact. If they stay home look out. That’s been going on for years…but yea thats just imagination. It is what it is, so we just got to deal with who and what we are….NO Excuses…just play hard!

  • the critic

    AT We will never know
    Yeah man i hear you and thats what bothers me the most is that almost all the big schools is taking pasadena and monrovia players to fill there skill positions because they already have the linemen and coaches so all they need to do is go pitch a nice speech to the parents of both cities and its a wrap…..but like you said NO EXCUSES.
    MAN if muir and p.h.s and monrovia and duarte did become just two high schools and played each other man oh man those games would have to be televised, that is if all the talent stayed in both cities. but like you said the community wouldnt allow that to happen at all never..

  • The Real Deal

    @ Valley Guy

    I’m not saying that you’re facts are wrong but I also have to voice my opion dude I do know football and muirs oc is terrible, they not only need 2 get holmes the rock but throw the ball with all the ath you have fool, enough about holmes he is the best recevier/ cover corner on muirs team,and the pacific leauge I don’t make the stats up. Have a great time dude.

  • valley guy

    real deal
    ok dude if you say so i see you really dont know muir football this year saying that holmes is the best cover corner lol….but im done talking about him and to you. You might know football but not muir football….fool

  • BigA

    @The Real Deal Karl has played well at WR but kevon # 1 is our best corner by far and behind him it dai dai #10 even tho he playing S right now after that there a few guys that can play #4 #2 #6 his in there with those guys the problem with him on D is he doent like to hit

  • valley guy

    now BigA know about muir football….but we do need a new “oc” man those athletes should be having a crazy season by now…i hope they change up and ball out these last 5 weeks and make a awesome run in the playoffs possibly championship.

  • BigA

    Man we have the players its on the coaches too step up
    they call plays like its a game of madden i bet they don’t even win at that

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