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thanks for a great article. HH

Larry,

Yet another column of yours which assails your opponents without substantiation.

Why don't you name some of these alleged "lies" ?
What allegations about the socialized health insurance transformation are "un-true" ?

Your doctor is one of the very few doctors who supports this socialist bill. A Democratic Congresswoman in Texas recently planted a "doctor" in one of her town hall meetings to support this plan. It turns out that the "doctor" is not a doctor---she's a former Obama campaign staffer.
The moral of that story is that if lots of doctors were actually in favor of the bill, it wouldn't have been necessary for the Congresswoman to plant a FAKE DOCTOR to publicly support the bill.

The head of the CBO---an Obama appointee !---says that this bill will incur an enormous deficit.

Look, if the Democrats weren't afraid of people seeing what's actually in the bill, they wouldn't have tried to jam it down our throats before the August recess prior to a through examination by the American people.

If they weren't afraid of people seeing what's in the bill, they would be transparent about the entire process.

Remember on the campaign trail when Mr. Hope 'N Change promised that he'd post bills on the internet for a period of time so that the America people could SEE what was in them ?
Remember when Mr. Hope 'N Change promised on the campaign trail that he'd be 100% transparent, and that bills would be open to thorough examination by the American people ?

The government does a horrible job in administering the Veterans' Hospitals.
We don't need to screw the rest of the country the way we screw our veterans with their health care.

Government bureaucracies are not as efficient as private enterprises.

In fact, it's just like Obama said the other day when comparing FedExpress and UPS to the Post Office---the Post Office is the one that's always screwing up !...so why would he want to apply that paradigm to health care ?

Mr. Wilson,

Here's a good column written by a doctor that shines light on the cost of ObamaCare. I think you should read it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/13/AR2009081302898.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns

Larry Wilson,

Your column advertises that it contains "truths" for the "liars," but all you did was claim that France's health care system is "good."

In other words, your column doesn't provide any "truths" about the proposed Democrat health care plan, and you didn't even identify any of the "lies" which you infer that opponents of the Democrat health care plan are telling.

The press are supposed to shine light on the government---not carry water for it.

Isn't it true that Dr. Malathi Narayan is an activist Democrat ?

From what I've been told, she campaigned for Obama.

For a very short article he manage to not only fail to come up with any good evidence that what we say is not true and your statistics were misleading. WHO? May as well have said the UN. Worthless.

Let me see: http://www.examiner.com/x-239-Denver-Health-Examiner~y2008m7d28-France-as-medical-care-icon--Not

"According to a recent report on NPR, the national health system in France was $9 billion in debt last year."

"French workers are required to contribute a whopping 21% of their income into the medical care system. Employers cover about half of that cost, but the result of that enormous expense is that employers are loath to hire more people. Every new hire represents another huge expense in taxes."

It does say that rising obesity is a factor, but they also say that the care isn't necessarily better, it's that French people have a healthier lifestyle.

You also managed to call opponents of the bill:

Crackpots, Shouters, Liars, Nutjobs, Conspiracy theorists and Wingnuts.

You have no facts to stand on and so fall back in to an ad hominem argument (i.e. name calling).... Read More

I'm sick of saying, "Read the bill" when I know you won't bother.

This isn't about health care...it's about
government control.

WAKE UP!

Let me just ask you these questions? Why are people all over the world - including FRANCE - flocking to the USA to live? Why is it that people all over the world flock to the USA for medical care? The answer - because we have the best.
It is NOT okay to work hard and have the government take a HUGE percentage of everything you make in taxes to redistribute among the masses or to spend willy nilly how ever they want. This is Un- American. This is not how our Founding Fathers set up our country. If you think France's health care system is wonderful - then move to France!

Mr. Wilson,

I think you've embarrassed yourself with your constant whining about those whom oppose socialized medicine.

You're a man in his mid-fifties---don't you think it's a little immature for you to insist that those whom disagree with you & Obama is automatically a "wingnut" or a "liar" ?

I think if you were actually confident in your ability to make the case for why we should defer health care to a government bureaucracy, you would do it.

The bill is over 1,000 pages long---and you have not even read it !

How can you even claim to be an honest advocate for something you haven't even read ?

That's so disingenous...and it's foolish.

Mr. Wilson,
I don't understand you liberals; you claim you are for total freedom of speech, yet when anyone disagrees with you, we are immediately called "wingnuts" un-American, mobs, Nazis, Astroturf and worse. My reply to you, Sir is the same as I wrote to Congressman Schiff. My letter follows:
August 19, 2009
Congressman Adam Schiff
29th Congressional District
87 N. Raymond Avenue, Suite 800
Pasadena, CA 91103

Dear Congressman Schiff,

My wife and I and several friends attended your “Town Hall” meeting last week. We have never before attended any type of political function; we have never before expressed our political feeling publicly. While admittedly we have not attended a Town Hall meeting before, this was anything but what I understand a town hall meeting to be. You provided a liberal biased panel to preach to us, and to use the time that we had expected to have a dialogue with you our elected representative. Only one question was taken from the questions we had submitted in writing, and no microphone was provided to your constituents wishing to ask questions. This was clearly not intended to be a dialogue with your constituents. Hundreds of Acorn and union protesters were bused in to offset and prevent your actual constituents from voicing their opinions. It was an appalling performance.

Frankly we decided to attend this event, for several reasons: 1) Because we are frightened and shocked over HR 3200 (yes I have downloaded the bill from the internet site, and have read large portions of it). As a lawyer I find it totally incomprehensible. Whoever wrote it should be embarrassed and ashamed. I did understand enough to know that what congress and the administration are telling us about it is in many respects not true and that I want no part of it. 2) Because we are frightened and shocked over what this administration and this congress has done to our country: in less than 8 months you have run up the largest deficit in the history of the nation; nationalized the auto and banking industries, and now want to force nationalized health care upon us. Perhaps what awoke me from my lifetime of political silence, was the statement of my 13 year old grandson, when watching the news and hearing about the trillions of dollars of spending and deficits, turned to me and said “Grandpa, I will never be able to live as well as you have lived, my sister and I and our children and their children will still be paying for all that our government is spending now, so we will never be able to have the life you have had.” I then realized that if I don’t start speaking out, I and all the silent majority like me will be equally guilty of destroying our children’s future and the nation they will inherit.

We and many of our friends and acquaintances have started for the first time to make our feelings known, and what has happened is that our elected representatives have called us “un-American; Nazis; mobs; rabble rousers; Astroturf” and worse. These insults hurled at us because for the first time we are exercising our constitutional right to speak up has only further served to anger and frustrate us. We are not “un-American” and we are not "Astroturf". We are the hard working tax paying citizens who have paid your salary and who have been ignored for too long. Our anger and our frustration runs deep.

Now I understand from the news commentary today, that this Congress, since it is such an unbalanced majority and therefore can pass whatever it wants, plans to pass this health care legislation in spite of the opposition of the American people. I can assure you Sir, that this “un-American, rabble rousing mob of Astroturf” that this congress has called its constituency will not remain silent. We will speak loud and clear when we again vote in November of next year. The fate of our grandchildren and their entire generation depends on it and we will not continue to fail them.

Very truly yours,

Jerome J. Jahn
Pasadena, California

So why does your physician, Malathi Narayan, practice in this country of "Liars"?

Why not in one of the fine countries where he could be part of socialized medicine?

Ask that next time you see him.

"For far better doctoring, the French pay about $3,500 per capita."????????

Actually, the cost for the French system is paid for by a series of two separate taxes which total an average of 20% of total income!!! All employers are required to pay about 12.5% of the total payroll and individuals must pay about 7.5% of all salary, as well as any bonuses, investment income, etc.

Sounds pretty damn expensive to me.....oh, by the way, last time I checked folks weren't flocking to France for medical treatment....they were coming here to the US.
So much for the "far better doctoring"....

Mr. Wilson,

My grandparents immigrated from Sicily. They were poor and had a fairly large family to take care of. Because of the family's hardships I am not unaware of the issues the poor have to deal with.

I have been weighing the pros and cons of this topic. I have to say I believe your comments are insulting and unfair to anyone still taking in all the information. My fear of this plan is losing one of the basic American freedoms; the freedom of choice. We seem to be losing many of those over the years.

This is the first time I have read your column, and I would have to say the last time. Your comments have done nothing but sent me further to the side of opposition.