This from reporter Brian Day on the Trib cop desk: The sheriff’s Department isn’t saying much about the case. The victim hasn’t been identified according to the coroner’s office. And LASO hasn’t even posted an update on their website.
MONROVIA A 16-year-old girl was killed and another teenaged girl
wounded in a shooting Saturday, officials said.
The incident was reported about 9:15 p.m. in the 2500 block of Peck
Road, said Los Angeles County sheriffs Deputy Bill
Brauberger<NO1>cq<NO>.
The deceased girls name was not released Sunday pending notification
of her family, said Los Angeles County coroners Lt. Cheryl
MacWillie<NO1>cq<NO>.
The girls were standing in front of the location when they were
approached by two males, Brauberger said.
The males opened fire on the girls and fled north on Peck Road on
foot, he said.
Both wounded teenagers were taken to a local hospital (Arcadia Methodist) where the
16-year-old girl was pronounced dead, said Brauberger.
The other girl was listed in stable condition, he said.
No further details were available.
wounded in a shooting Saturday, officials said.
The incident was reported about 9:15 p.m. in the 2500 block of Peck
Road, said Los Angeles County sheriffs Deputy Bill
Brauberger<NO1>cq<NO>.
The deceased girls name was not released Sunday pending notification
of her family, said Los Angeles County coroners Lt. Cheryl
MacWillie<NO1>cq<NO>.
The girls were standing in front of the location when they were
approached by two males, Brauberger said.
The males opened fire on the girls and fled north on Peck Road on
foot, he said.
Both wounded teenagers were taken to a local hospital (Arcadia Methodist) where the
16-year-old girl was pronounced dead, said Brauberger.
The other girl was listed in stable condition, he said.
No further details were available.
Thanks to Common Sense for the heads up…. Much appreciated
Same area (street) where Day-Day was shot. This is only going to get worse. Summer of 08 will be a bloodbath if law enforcement does not get a hand on this senseless violence soon.
It is a sad truth, but within a few short weeks, the police and politicians will have made sure this subject stays out of the media. We have one of the few cities that when something happens it is kept quiet. In Arcadia or Diamond Bar they talk about it until someone comes forward with information. Have we heard anything about the boy that was shot or an investigation on who killed the 64 yr old Rollins? Was this girl another victim, another student from our local school?
Another life gone by some cowrds. This makes no sense. Our police force is not doing a dam thing. Why are you killing innocent people? Life means nothing to these people anymore. I hate them all for this stupid shit.
Oh My God, this has got to stop. This month is the bloodiest I can ever remember in Monrovia.
My heart goes out to you all. My daughter goes to MHS and those kids are still reeling over what happened to another classmate, Day Day two weeks ago.
This really is getting out of hand. I know this happens in every city across America, and after viewing the link to LASO it happens everyday in
L.A. But this is Monrovia. The law enforcement needs to get a handle on this. The Mayor and city manager need to do thier jobs to make sure ALL of the citizins are safe. I don’t want to read that this occured in the area down there. It affects me, my family, my neighbors so they need to do the jobs they are elected or paid to do and get the job done! If I don’t make it happen at my job, I get fired that’s it. If they can’t; they need to be fired or need to resign. This will continue to be an embaressment to the city especially the sitting Mayor and Police Chief. Big deal if you can get the gold line, if kids are dying and you aren’t solving the crimes you aren’t doing your job! We should have different watch groups call the news and tell their story on how Monrovia’s best will push this aside. Tell the news how they feel since it happens south of Duarte it doesn’t matter. Or yet it’s not a Monrovia matter what was that quote by Singer? We should tell the media how we want to increase the population by develoment but not increase the police force. We should tell the media that how beautiful Monrovia is to film tv and commercials here, but don’t be of the wrong color or under 18 years old,over 65 or your a target. Dont tell me it’s only gangs fighting gangs. It’s fools shooting just to shoot. Good thing for Monrovia that the housing costs are down, otherwise they would see a quick departure of many young families. I know if my kids were still young I would move them out. We moved here so they could enjoy their youth, now they are being robbed of it. What a shame!
If only they built more prisons, this problem would just go away.
prisons wont make the situation go away.monrovia polititions try to live up to the all american city image. so that when things happen they try thier best to keep it out the public eye.everyone is always complaining about what the city officials do and dont do to much. its time for the community to do something.nieghbors need to be nieghbors and come together and make a stand against the people that are doing these crimes.monrovia is a small town. somebody knows somebody that knows somebody, and some where people know whos doing this, so its up to you to say and do something enstead of just sitting there with your tails between your legs.ive been a mnv gangmember for 18 years and the stuff thats happening today was happening yesterday and untill they reach out to the elementry kids and teach em something else its going to be happening tomorrow.but let me tell u this, as long as its mexican and blacks victimizing eachother the city wont do (anything), but i guarantee as soon as a lil white kid gets hurt it’ll be a whole different story!!!!
EDITED 9:23 a.m. 1/28/08 for language (edited portion in parenthesis)
I just googled a city limits map and unfortunately it is outside of incorporated Monrovia.
It is a sheriffs depart problem first. An LA County supervisor situation clear up as well.
Monrovia city hall has and should continue to do what it can even outside its borders. Our city primary resources must go to protecting within the city limits first. Second they assist the county and make it an issue with the county to correct what is theirs.
It is just horrible that another group of kids has been shot at.
However NONE of it will end until the PARENTS intervene and monitor what their kids are doing and set the example. The schools and city are only a partner in the parenting rearing process.
As long as there are parents not working with their kids to provide positive alternatives the city and school efforts will only have minimal impact.
And before you all get all crabby about the county vs city or even begin to think I am a city shill read my blog. I an very critical of what our city is doing on many levels. I speak up often on it all as it all effects our quality of life.
I agree with you taht parents need to step up, but who is to say it is 16 yr old’s doing the shooting? Just because 16 yr old’s are getting shot at. As a parent of a teen, I do my best, I know thier whereabout and friends, but at what point do we give them the freedom and independance? Or keep them sheltered in the house so they are not a vitim or a suspect based on thier color? I want my children to be able to have their youth.
Gumballs thank you for telling it like it really is. They don’t (care) about blacks or mexicans.As soon as the precious little white kid gets hurt down comes the doors and all blacks and mexicans. We all will be stopped no matter what your are or arn’t doing. But, I do know this all this shit that is going down is people from out of town coming in and doing it and then they go back and live in their town and let us have to watch our backs and be in before dark. These little kids that don’t know whats really going on causing trouble and messing it up for the younger generation it is so not fair. We need to come togather and stop this because right now its in black and white the cops don’t care they look at it as just another black or mexican we don’t have to deal with on the street if they keep killing each other.
EDITED 9:25 a.m. 1/28/08 for language (edited portion in parenthesis)
Frank,
Any word on why the race of the suspects or victims were not reported? Hasn’t there been a rash of racially motivated shooting in the area? Wouldn’t this type of information help?
Please help us understand by stating SGV Tribunes Editorial policy with regards to this matter.
This is very troubling news. I’ve never heard of male gang members running up on teenage females and killing them. As backwards as it might sound, I thought Mexican-American gangs have a general policy against this type of activity…intentionally targeting non-gangmembers at random. This is part of the reason I’m curious to know the race of suspects and victims.
I hope this doesnt continue to fuel a vicous cycle of retribution.
Why not thank Gumballs for his 18 years of service to MNV while you’re at it? Is he really telling it like it is? If it wasn’t for people like Gumballs would we have this type of problem? Nope, we wouldn’t.
This is a Black and Hispanic issue primarily. There are Blacks and Hispanics killing each other because of their color and not being to selective about who they shoot. It affects everyone in this town regardless of color because 1) you never know where shots will ring out next and 2) anyone with a bit of humanity can’t help but be concerned and help to make the carnage stop. Regardless of what you look like.
I was at the last city council meeting where the mayor and chief of police talked about what they were doing to combat this violence. The mayor begged people to call anonymously with any information that could help.
I didn’t see any parents get up and speak on it though. Not a parent of any color. It’s easy to throw accusations out but at least do it after finding out how the city and county are responding to this and what you can do to help.
If Gumball is an active MNV member maybe he has info on some shootings. Have you called to help out yet Gumballs?
Local Boy
ARCADIA – ATTEMPTED MURDER!!!. Last night about 10:00pm in the 0-100 block of Bonita street, between Santa Anita and First. Asian women was living with her girlfriend and returned home to condo via her car to find her husband standing outside the garage with a gun. He followed her up the stairs and she screamed he is going to kill me. He shot her and fled the scene it what witnesses say was a Mercedes. Arcadia police responded and victim was transported to Arcadia Methodist. No word on if she survived.
Frank – Please call APD and get the full report from them and then reposr back to us. Thanks.
ARCADIA – PS on the Attempted Murder. Both victim and suspect were Asian.
I agree with ‘D.Q’: Who cares where you live, rich or poor, Black-White-Brown etc the TOTAL responsibility of children’s welfare falls on the parent/s. Accept it.
Race issue: There is None…! everyone bleeds Red.
Ray
Localboy, you sure are on top of everything that goes on. How much do you know about what’s going on with the shootings?
Ray, you are right eveyone does bleed red,we eat the same way, get dressed the same one pants leg at a time and we all go to the bathroom. So what’s the real problem? If these gang members have a problem with each other then why can’t they settle it among each other and leave innocent people out of it!!! Just because you are a certain race don’t mean you gangbang.! Why don’t you gang members think about that. How would you feel if your innocent mom,dad,grandma or child got killed or shot behind being the wrong race? It’s not fair to not let innocent people have a chance at life!!!
Thank goodness the SGVN opened up this Forum, nice to see someone out there has a opinion.
By the way Mr. Gumball I heard Mr. Webster has a new book out,you should thumb thru it.
Ray
Local Boy, I understand where you are coming from, but hope you can understand where many of us come from too. You have said a few times that it is a black/hispanic problem but yet all it takes is my son who is naturally tan walking down the street. So it does affect us all. My kids are scared to walk to the high school and middle school. I hear you that no parents stand up at the city council meeting, but I know it sounds like a cop out but then our houses, our kids are targeted. And that is a sad decision we must make. Then our kids are asking us to sit down and keep quiet so they can get through school without being harrassed.
Just down the street from SANTA FE MIDDLE SCHOOL where some of you “true” Monrovians send your kids to school. also the shooting two weeks ago was 3 blocks from PLYMOUTH SCHOOL. THIS IS AFFECTING ALL MONROVIA AND DUARTE AND THE COUNTY AREAS. Violence does not reconize borders.
FRANK!,
How could you allow that racist “Sad Friend” space to take up space?, Shame on you!.
If any decent person wants to hear that, they should type in “street gangs’in Google search, that will keep them busy for loooong time.
Ray
It’s all about hatred. Hatred toward someone I have no understanding of. The blacks hate the hispanics, the hispanics hate the blacks and both hate whites because they think they’re all “nice lil’ white kids.” Well let me tell you that we’re all in the same boat. My kids are white, but their friends are of all colors. I had to tell my son that I would drive him to meet his friends at the movie the other night because, yes, I was scared to let him walk with his mixed group of friends. I work with children. I love them all. We all start out as beautiful individuals. Our circumstances affect us. As children there is only so much you can do if your circumstances predispose you to gangs or gang activity. It’s also up to us as parents to keep our child a lot more sheltered than we are currently doing. How many parents let their 11 year old kids hang out on Friday nights at the street fair? Our children are living in an age where it’s cool to wear gangsta’ styles and listen to Rap music. Sorry, but it’s all about the ganster lifestyle. If we want to change things, it’s got to come down to parents of elementary aged children taking back control of their kids. If we leave them to their own devices they are going to be influenced by what they consider to be “cool.” We also have stop being afraid to talk to each other and let other parents know what we see and hear going on with our kids. That’s how it used to be. If we are truely and All American City than we should start looking out for each other and start caring about all children, not just our own.
FRANK!,
How could you allow that racist “Sad Friend” to take up space?, Shame on you!.
If any decent person wants to hear that, they should type in “street gangs’in Google search, that will keep them busy for loooong time.
Ray
Wow. This can’t be good. I’m afraid my suspicion about the ethnicity of the suspects was spot on. This could get uglier, especially if the Latino gang decides to target AA youth at random.
My guess is some kind of curfew (or injunction) is coming down the pike that would restrict black and brown youth from congregating in public.
Let’s hope what happens in Monrovia doesnt flare up the entire SGV.
This is the source of the problem…period.
The entire article can be found by googling ..”Mexican Mafia puts out green light”
This is part of the article and one of many written on the subject.
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Gauging the Gangs
A respected writer spent five years studying the Mexican Mafia. What he discovered will shock even the most seasoned cop.
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Whenever Tony Rafael leaves home, he carries a .45-caliber handgun nestled in a holster just below his armpit. A Cold Steel Recon-1 knife is stashed elsewhere on his person. Concealed weapons permits are hard to come by in Los Angeles County, but Rafael is a special case.
For the past five years, the respected writer and gang expert — who uses only the name he writes under in public because of his dangerous work — has been researching one of the deadliest gangs in America for a nonfiction book he’s writing on the Mexican Mafia, or “La Eme”(the Spanish word for the letter ‘M’), tentatively titled Southern Soldiers. His sources are of the “L.A. Confidential” variety: prison inmates, gang members past and present, homicide detectives, FBI agents and their informants. He has volunteered for the Los Angeles Police Department, conducting long-term surveillance outside gang hangouts, and has dug up the cases of hundreds of gang members from the county court system to document the bloody swath they’ve cut across Los Angeles.
One heart-arresting fact the streetwise investigator recently uncovered is that Mexican Mafia leaders have declared a “green light” on African Americans found in neighborhoods claimed by the powerful prison-based gang. This means that members of Latino street gangs affiliated with the La Eme are under orders to harass, assault, and even murder African-Americans, who Mexican Mafia leaders view as sub-human.
The reason for this, Rafael has found, is that a longstanding prison gang war between the Mexican Mafia and the African-American prison gang, Black Guerilla Family, has led to a deep racial loathing between the gangs that has spilled over into the streets of Los Angeles County.
Until now, media coverage of this issue has missed the Mexican Mafia connection by focusing narrowly on the convictions of four members of a single street gang, the Avenues, for violating federal hate crime laws by murdering blacks in the Highland Park neighborhood. According to Rafael and other gang experts, the problem is far more pervasive.
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Anyone who knows the history of MNV and Duarte East Side can attest to their hatred of each other for how long Gumballs, about 30 years?
For these bitter rivals, who have shot at and killed each other for decades to suddenly take up arms together can only be attributed to someone else telling them to do so.
Anonymous, it’s going to get worse before it gets better, trust me on that. As I said in my last post this afects everyone because it affects your freedom of movement.
Shootings can take place anywhere, the high school, street fair, Mervyns, or any place in town one gangster sees a rival, or someone who might look like a rival. This is so sad.
Frank..you guys need to look at this angle because everything else you write is secondary.
In the meantime, stay safe people.
Local Boy
usagain,
This has happened in Azusa and Pasadena. And now it is in Duarte/Monrovia area, it will continue to spread unfortunately.
anonymous,
I am aware of the issues in Azusa, Pasadena and Highland Park. But this is the first time I’ve heard of Latina, non-gang members, being targeted by an AA gang.
If AA are being targeted bc of prison orders, can the same be said of AA prison gangs targeting Latinos? I’m not sure the AA prison gangs operate under the same structural m.o., so I’m less inclined to think this retaliation is ordered from atop.
Clearly, there are no easy answers.
I don’t think the crips are retaliating under any orders, it’s just what gangsters do. If they opened fire on two females who were non-gang affiliated than they’ve made quite a statement, and it’s a very scary one.
Local Boy
Frank,
#1 Thank you removing “Sad Friend”.
#2 This blog is to small for all the issues, I think it’s time for you to move on to a forum/meeting on “Community Cable TV” ASAP, that’s what it’s for, no city council meeting (blah-blah-blah, no politicans, no police, no so-called experts, just ordinary people that aren’t afraid the stand up, give their name and opinions. This is reaching a melt-down stage and I know the SGVN can make this happen
Sorry, gotta go and pick my kids up from school.
Drove around Monrovia, notice lots of blacks and latinos sittng on the curb by Police cars.
When we used to tell our kids what they saw on tv was not real is now becoming reality. Who would have thought that at home someone would just drive up and shoot at teen girls. They were probably talking about boys not what kind of gun or drugs they carry. Who would think that a 16 yr old kid riding a bike just gets shot? Who would think a man of retired years gets shot arriving home? This is what we see in “Hollywood tv, the makings of a good cop movie not here in the foothills. Not in an area that has desirable homes, entertainment and location. Not in an area that is policed by itself not the LAPD Rampart dist. Perhaps we need an assesment of our city groups and see what needs to change and who needs to go. We need an outside commission group to come in and give us an insight how to change. It can’t be done by people on the inside, and can’t be done by residents who will be biased either way. Currently, our city leaders just can’t handle it. It is unfortunate, but the truth. Perhaps their eyes were bigger than thier stomaches and they built a bigger city than they can handle. Maybe adding all the new houses, new businesses, and new developments were not a good idea for the current Mayor. Sometimes, we need to just be happy with the status quo, wasn’t Monrovia the place to be about 5 yrs ago before all the new “Growth”? Now we can’t police our streets or even control the traffic on the streets. Perhaps instead of the happy status quo,, they got greedy and thought we could be the next large Pasadena to the east.
Frank, As you can see there is real panic. Did you forward the “sad friend” info to both the LA Sheriff/MPD along withtheir IP Address it was sent from? Could be a lead to find at least one potential person with knowledge of the next hit.
I wouldn’t remove any of it, I would remove the crude language etc., as people need to see the level of threat we are facing.
I ended Family Festival for my kids last spring after witnessing 3 fights that MPD had to break up in the ped ally by the Skate Shop. Now if they go, its with family and we are in and out before dark.
Curfew..the city has one 10PM but its inconsitently enforced and the kids have told me it is a joke. You ought to see the amount of kids still running around town after 10 or even midnight.
I agree wholeheartedly we can’t police the community as it is. Our force is understaffed, over worked, outgunned and certainly not paid enough for the job they have to do. A lot of things need fixing.
Local Boy is right on target when he says it is coming from the Mexican Mafia. I have a limited knowledge of gang symbols, but I saw something this summer that scared the crap out of me. On a sign across Myrtle Ave. from Jack in the Box was a big SUR. This is the symbol for Sureno which mean southern which means South Siders. Every Latino gang member becomes a South Sider when they enter LA County jails or the state prison system. La eme(The Mexican Mafia) is the controlling force of the South Siders. We have never seen their tagging in Monrovia before this summer. Our city needs to stop hiding things and start educating people.
Scott Ochoa uses political double speak to make a point that isn’t true. He says this is simply retaliation shootings and nothing more.
If that was the case you wouldn’t have MNV and DES working together. They use to shoot each other way more than the Crips, but that’s all stopped.
You don’t stop being mortal enemies over night!! Why the change of heart? For Ochoa to say he can show it’s not race because you don’t see Asians going after Whites is an insult.
How sad.
Local Boy
Another point of view.
What’s the difference between the Mexican Mafia & Bloods/ Crips… from the Sunni’s & Shities in Iraq?
Neither cares who dies.
Ray
Im 21, and graduated from monrovia high in 05 and yea, i knew guys from du roc and MNV and yeah former friend who ended up in MNV wouldnt walk around streets of monrovia unless he had a gun on him.. And I have no clue if finally a bigger gang such as mexican mafia has come to town or anything like that, wouldnt really doubt it. But just drive around monrovia and you will see at least 3 gang members giving you dirty looks as you drive by within 15 mins usually. And Before i graduated, the coke, and meth in the highschool seemed to increase dramatically.. and not only did their become more coke heads but im sure More profit coming in to local gangs.. hence getting attention from bigger gangs. And the Race relations between hispanic and black guys has been their since i was a freshman, and has only gotten worse, not as bad as recently but it was always there. There was almost 3 giant fights between black and hispanics when i was a senior, it was actually pretty scary cuz it would have been 50 or more guys fighting at once, with only 4 security guards.. getting off track a bit but yeah, that was like 3 years ago, if no one settled it then what did they expect would happen?just now we have way more coked up, and tweaked out wanna-be, and real gangsters running around the city.. selling the drugs that are making 14yr olds and up, of ALL RACES coke heads and tweakers before their even out of highschool.. Stealing in this city has gone up because of it.. Gang viloence has gone up because of it.. Race tension has gone up because of it.. And if mexican mafia has come to town.. it is because of the coke and meth being sold and the money to be made.. and yea the racial hatred and w/e is going on in the prisons follows them where ever they go. Monrovia is just one of the cities that is having this happen im sure.. just this city in general has been getting worse and worse for a long time. Wasnt their even a incident at the police station where one officer wrote the “n” word on a black officers locker?? if that doesnt say something.. And i know for a fact though i wont name names.. at least 2 monrovia cops not sure if their still there.. Are or atleast were HUGE TWEAKERS.. cops that do meth dont get caught because it only stays in their system for a few days, so they pass their drug tests.. now if the cops are doing it.. who else do u think is? And yeah the area of peck where the 2 girls were shot, is Temple City Sheriff juristiction.. and their is and has been a lot more corruption in that department than most around this area.. And their response time is usually terrible.. But i wasnt suprised when the 2 guys who shot the girls on peck werent caught that night.. i live a block or two away from where it happend and i rarely see a cop car in this area,.. and if i have ever needed to call them they take a good 40 mins to an hour to respond. i cant help but think that gave the 2 shooters a bit more confidence to do what they did so early into the night.. It just sad how fucked up things are getting.