'Mobilized' is a good word to characterize what has transpired over the past few months. Yes, I hope that this is the finale catalyst that 'mobilizes' those within the system to seriously unite throughout the state as they attack this epidemic of gang violence; there's nothing more fruitful than working together & in numbers. That's exactly how the gangs got strong... I hope my interpretation was correct in that this collaberation for the next ten years is basically an all out effort for southern Calif.? There's those few moments in life when things come together, and I know that this is one of those moments ONLY if they harness the energy in this very moment.

I am as concerned as others have noted regarding the after math once the visibility of the police becomes less.... Before that happens maybe the city will have provided the community with a plan that continues to draw folks into a continued commitment.

I haven't heard of any recent violence in Monrovia and the posts (or lack thereof) may indicate that the fear is contained. Maybe we each have found our place in offering our services as a result of the vaious community rallies... (!)

I heard an NPR news story today about Monrovia wherein the reported stated that the spike in violence is in part a result of early prison release.

First, is this an assumption (that implicitly criticizes the early release of {non-violent?}prisoners or a fact grounded in some actionable intelligence?

If this claim was based on some factual information why wouldn't it result in some arrests?

I smell some bias in this report.

Local Boy,
You care to chime in on above question?

Yea!!! I love hearing about gang prevention and intervention. This is the only way we will stop the cycle of gangs. These kids need something to look toward besides gangs. Some of these criminals were smart kids or had leadership qualities, but didn't have the direction or support to do anything with it. This is our future. We all have a stake in it.

I'm going to let people know before reading this post I use very direct language. I'm tired of being nice to an obvious gang supporter and racist. If it gets deleted than oh well.

When this spike took place the person that was released, or one of them anyway, was anything but non-violent. He triggered a lot of what took place and came right out of state, not county. Who was pulling his strings?

You might have someone released early that's locked up on a non-violent offense with a history of violent offenses on their r.a.p.s. They get released based on their lasted crime they were locked up for but what type of person are you releasing? If you say a non-violent one than you are mentally challenged.

I read the report that FX linked us to and what made the most sense to me is simple, to simple for you to understand usgain but try to muddle through it.

Less felons on the street and less crime takes place.
It's a concept that actually does hold water which is why three strikes should never be changed. If people don't want to change their criminal ways than adios mother ....er. How many chances should one asshole be entitled to?

Look at the recent robbery at Pavillion's in Monrovia as an example. The guys doing a petty theft, gets hauled back in the store by security, pulls out a gun and than takes off but officers catch him (he was a parolee by the way.

In your backwards ....ing universe if he doesn't pull the gun he's a non-violent offender, just some poor soul doing a theft. That's especially true in your case if he's black or brown.

Even if he gets popped and they find the gun on him it's just ccw, a misdemeanor, unless he has a prior for it or is an ex-con. That's if he doesn't attempt to use it like this idiot did. He would than be treated as a non-violent offender and later OK'd for early release. As soon as he gets out he plays the same game, because that's what these assholes do and maybe this time somebody gets shot.

You're never going to look at this from a real life type of scenario usagain, it's too "simple". People who get violated for technical violations for instance are just thumbing their nose at what responsibility they have agreed to in being given the chance for an early out.

You see them as victims of a racist society or over zealous cops when in fact they are idiots for not taking advantage of a gift given to them that they are in no way even worthy of. We should do away with all parole and grant probation only for minor misd. crimes. 100% time is a very good idea for anyone that gets a state sentence.

You can violate every gangster out there right now because it's standard that parole conditions include not hanging out with other gangsters. That doesn't happen though because parole supervisors have marching orders that won't allow it. It's total b.s.

The amount of gangsters on parole or probation that take part in violent crimes or non-violent ones are very high. They don't care just like you don't care what they are doing. Your little "yawn" comment on the other thread shows that to a "T".

Bottom line is you don't give a .... about what happens to any victim of violent crime. All you care about, which your ....ing little smart ass comments show every day is the poor gangsters being harrassed by the police. Why is that...color of skin and nothing else like any other two bit racist.

Spare me your ....ing gangster ass kissing bullshit. I wonder what tune you'll be playing if one of these pieces of shit takes out a close friend of yours or someone in your family.

Will you just "yawn" at the funeral?

Local Boy

Well, "local boy" I agree with you. Every family knows someones close in their lives who have been in or out of trouble;most folks are pretty much blind to the situation at first-hand. I knew a relative who was not "up and up", seemingly 'harrassed' by the cops ... but he was heading in the wrong direction & no one would open their eyes. The legal system worked in his behalf until it caught up with him.....small stuff, thank goodness & he turned himself around but if the law had been firmer at the get go ...it may not have gotten out of hand. Yet, ugly as it got..he made better choices in his life. *getting off the subject, somewhat, there has to be a check and balance...look how many innocent folks have been locked up or even executed. **That's another subject..

I asked a simple question:
Is there any actionable intelligence that would lead police officers and/or the media to conclude that the increase in violence was partly CAUSED by early release?
If so, where is it? Who? What did he do? Where? Was he alone?

Seemingly, there's no answer and it confirms my suspicion that the news piece was quoting biased information.

Lboy, you want to treat/charge a non vioent offender as v.o. bc of a previous crime he already paid for? Sounds like double jeaporday to me...but then again, you're not all that concerned about constitutional rights.

Further, you said:
"The amount of gangsters on parole or probation that take part in violent crimes or non-violent ones are very high."

Sorry for you, but the report FX posted doesnt support your claim. In fact, its called CA aggresive round up of probation and parole violations expensive and ineffective. So, chew on that.

Yes, I think we are all aware that you would like to lock up as many people as possible for as long as possible. 3 felonies and you're in for life, right?
That's Fuccen foolish.

By the way, I consider ANYBODY who violates my rights a piece of shit...pea-brained cops, especially.

I'm going to jump on google to see if there is any date on law enforcement intelligence. Not those agencies that actually require a college educationa and evidence of sound reasoning, but you know...The Sherrifs and LAPD.

What do you know?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-09-17-police-education_x.htm

From the article:
There are about 700,000 state and local police officers across the nation. Mayo estimates that 25% to 30% have four-year degrees. He says departments have been reluctant to adopt stricter recruiting standards despite evidence suggesting that better-educated cops perform better.

In an analysis of disciplinary cases against Florida cops from 1997 to 2002, the International Association of Chiefs of Police found that officers with only high school educations were the subjects of 75% of all disciplinary actions. Officers with four-year degrees accounted for 11% of such actions.

More Phi Beta Kappa officers:

http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_8263007

Than again, nothing can replace good old street smarts, common sense and courage. It appears you lack all of those. What do you do for a living? I've asked before what qualifications and expertise you have to even comment on this issue and you clam up like Helen Keller. Spit it out, what are you waiting for?

Why should you be entitled to the info on what event or who started this last go around? You'll make the players out to be poor misunderstood people who are actually nice guys if it wasn't for this racist society we live in.

In the mean time two different groups have come out very recently, Laura Chick just yesterday, lambasting the money wasted on gang programs in Los Angeles. Than Monrovia has all these gang experts come out and speak and they're associated with these same programs. Guess you don't read all the papers huh? Who's getting rich off of all this grant money and money the cities are putting out? Even when gang murders go down we still have a huge problem.

My education did not help me one bit as a cop..not one bit. A lot of education helps if you want to promote but the fact is you have to have certain things inside of you to make you a good cop. Those things wouldn't be found in a guy like you.

For every story you post about a questionable shooting or your meaningless educational rhetoric I could talk about cops who waited to long to shoot (Ken Wrede is the first guy that comes to mine) and throw out the names of guys with doctorates who work the streets because they want to.

You're still just a simple minded racist and arrogant know nothing. Your post show that and I'm pretty sure our little back and forth has pointed that out to everyone here.

You do a real good job of showing everyone you can link articles but only taking certain bits out of them and thinking you've won some type of victory is pretty funny.

Long term incarceration keeps bad guys off the streets and reduces crime. That's a fact. It's very simple but people who lack the least amount of common sense just can't understand it.

That shoe fits right?

You're just a racist poser.

Local Boy

By the way Einstein. There's certain information law enforcement has that they don't put out to the papers or anyone else due to trying to make a case or simply wanting to have the element of surprise. There are other factors that come into play but those are two.

The media has no constitutional or any other type of right to know everything. What you know about the constitution I've probably forgot. That's the problem with guys like you, with your mind-set you look at all cops as uneducated cavemen.

Some are actually educated cavemen and that's the type you don't want to deal with. Not only can they handle really bad guys on the street, they can out talk anybody racist little poser like you.

Local Boy

If we went back to putting people back in stocks in the middle of the town square, I'd be behind it. Too bad criminals aren't ashamed of their misdeeds anymore. Our youngsters think it's cool to be bad, and the gang bangers like the power they get from it. Keep them in jail for the full length of their terms. I don't care what color they are, treat them all the same. If you are of a race that has a proportionately higher number of people in jail, that's because you made a bad choice. Not because of your skin color.

Lboy,
I stand by the strength of my arguments and not some conferred degree of expertise (e.g., You ARE the law, don't let anyone tell you different).
But since you asked...I've worked as a Literatute and History Instructor at one of the most drug and gang pressed High Schools in the SGV; I've taught Philosphy, Religion and Ethics at a Junior College in the Inland Empire (this implies that I have a graduate degree and mastery over at least one subject); I've offered motivational/educational messages to CYA, Churches, High Schools, Universities, seminars and Academic Conferences; I've been invited to China, Korea and Japan as a good will ambassador; my work has appeard in national publications and I've appeared on TV several times to discuss urban issues; currently, I write and produce the television that many retirees (like yourself) probably watch and enjoy; my brother, neighbor and cousin were victims of a drive by shooting, never mind the 10 -15 people I have known to die from gang-related bullshit.

All this to say, eat a giraffe cokc, lboy.

By the way, I can make myself available for the job interview as soon as you say the word, boss.

anonymous,
people dont end up in jail bc they made a bad choice, they end up in jail bc they made a bad choice and were caught. the question becomes, why are some people caught and others not? Answer this questioon and we will begin to get somewhere.

By the way, rounding up people and putting them in the town square is SADLY, the American Way---Bracero Act, Japanese-American internment camps, Anti-Chinese laws and of course, those beloved racial covenants imposed on properties in PASADENA (and monrovia?) that FORBADE African Americans from puchasing homes in the area.

But that was a long time ago now, when L-Boy was just getting his start on the force.

That was real hard to guess, another light weight academic liberal know nothing phony. Doing great with educating are youth professor.

Like I said, I've forgot more about the constitution than you know, and I stand by that. When people can't argue the present they retreat to the past. If you can't argue or debate with a guy like me, without retreating to the past and posting racist post after racist post, what could you possibly be doing to our young minds your entrusted with?

What a damn tragedy our educational system is, so filled with burn outs from the 60's or 70's like you.

Why with all your "supposed" smarts do I feel like I'm arguing with the smartest kid in the Special Education Class?

Your unwarranted arrogance is typical of people with your history, if you're actually telling the truth.

Again you bring up the pain inflicted on certain minority groups without mentioning whites or Christians. EVERYONE GROUP HAS SUFFERED DISCRIMINATION AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER THROUGH TIME!! QUIT PLAYING THE VICTIM,IT ISN'T WORKING!! CHRISTIANS ARE HAVING THEIR HEADS CHOPPED OFF IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND OTHER AREAS OF THE WORLD...NOW!! NOT YEARS AGO BUT...NOW!! FOR SIMPLY BEING CHRISTIANS!!!Course that doesn't matter does it? Not to someone like you.

You're a typical racist fool and nothing more. By the way, did I say I was a retiree? One job maybe, but I can actually multi-task...all us caveman not be dumb as you think. I guess whatever school you worked at apparently scared you to death huh? When did the gangsters turn you? Were you some type of faculty adviser for them? Start your first racist exclusionary group back then?

What a phony lightweight. You are a one trick racist pony. Look for someone else to argue with, you have no game.

Good luck in your victim hood.

Local Boy

Usagain, I agree you are a racist. You are also filled with a lot of hate for someone who has been a good will ambassador. Seems a shame all of your education didn't teach you any forgiveness. Too bad that it didn't teach you much about the history of many immigrants to this country, not just black and brown, who were treated in much the same way as the African American's in Pasadena. And why is it exactly that they still get to be African American's, even after they are here for many generations, when other races don't get to be say Irish Americans or Anglo Americans or German Americans or Dutch Americans or Chinese Americans or Mexican Americans? I am white, but I myself and some of my family members were incarcerated for, yes, MAKING BAD CHOICES AND GETTING CAUGHT. Guess what? Even though we were white we still got caught, as we should have. And I thank God every day that I did, because I have no idea where I would be now if it hadn't happened and I hadn't LEARNED A LESSON!!! See that's the difference. I don't blame the cops, and believe me I could have. My case truly was a set-up by a stooly who was looking to get less time. The DA made an example of me and not only prosecuted me to the FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW, but punished me as severely as they could. Boo Hoo to anybody who blames society for their problems. I work with children of every color every day and I will stand behind any child who has bad circumstances to try to help them out, but once you're able to make your own life choices you need to decide what path to take. Not all white people grew up in good neighborhoods, you know.

Great post Anonymous. I've seen people get past their past and become exemplary people and even role models. You sound like one such person.

I wish more could succeed but at some point when they keep repeating the same behaviors something drastic has to be done to protect the rest of us.

Local Boy