The mystery of Walter Collins

With so much interest in the DVD release of Clint Eastwood’s movie The Changling, perhaps those of you who have seen the film have some thoughts on the fate of Walter Collins.

It’s an open question. Was he killed by Gordon Northcott at the Wineville Chicken Ranch as Northcott and his mother claimed? Or did Young Walter somehow escape the farm and go on to lead a productive life, justifying Christine Collins’ hope that her son would return home some day?

What do you think?

 

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  • Cas Stark

    A very interesting story. Was the doctor in the institution ever prosecuted for his role in keeping Ms. Collins and the other women in the asylum under “directive 12″? What happened to the minister portrayed by John Malcovich? Fascinating.

  • donna galler

    Did anyone ever ask Sanford Clark if he and Northcutt actually caught any of the three escaped boys? That would be an indication if there was any chance that Walter Collins survived.

  • Jhazzy

    So did they ever really find out what happend to walter….did he escape???or did he get caught uo or something…what really happend and his mothers co worker at her job looked very suspicious as if he had something to do with it

  • tara

    I totally thought the same thing about the mothers coworker. They sure didnt think that one through. But honestly if he would’ve made it you would think that there would have been some sort of something over the years. When did Christine Collins actally die? Does anyone know? Such a chilling story and I want to know more. It made me think about my own kids and how I will hold them even closer.

  • Resa

    Why not have a DNA test on any evidence still available?

  • nora

    this is for the donna galler, Sanford Clark always said they really did kill Walter and he had to tell the truth because he had to remember Walter was one of the 3 kids that tried to escape.

  • nadine

    i think wat happened to walter is the most sadest thing and what happen to his mom i think what the cops did to here was sooo wrong!!!!!!they should have believed her without a question!!! i hope walter escaped and lived but well never no….god bles the walter family

  • Lauren

    We rented the movie, Changeling, 21MAR2009. It was a very gruesome and dark movie. I do not recommend it for children. After viewing the movie, we came to the conclusion that Walter Collins was murdered by the Psychopath in the movie. He was probably shot to death as he tried to escape with the other boys. Walter went back to help one of the boys whose foot became entangled in a wired fence. The boy whose foot was stuck escaped and was not killed. Walter Collins has never turned up — his body has never been found. Our theory is that he was more than likely murdered on the ranch. A very sad movie and a very tragic ending.

  • Vronica Apodaca

    Walter Collins movie(changeling)was very sad i’m afraid what had happened to Walter.I agree with another person who said walter collins was probably shot to death while trying to escape because when the kids were trying to run away i noticed a kid getting shot on the leg and the man who would”ve hert them took off with the gun next to him.As i write this my husband is watching it. he is also afraid i felt kinda sad when i found out they never found Walter, poor boy seperated by his mother because of some sico killer I would’ve ran away(if i knew the person was a killer).i like many people hope for nothing else to happen to poor inasent children so for walter’s mother I hope they both ended up in heaven and i think it was nice of Walter too help David(also known as Davy to the killer, because David was also a prisiner of Walter Collins killer if it wern’t for Walter Collins Walter’s moms friend wouldn’t have her son David God bless you Walter!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Lisa

    I just watched Changeling and cried my eyes out. I can’t imagine what Christine went through. I hope that Walter made it out alive. God bless the souls of those poor boys, having to deal with what they went through.

  • lisa

    I just cannot believe this story . It is so sad and my heart goes out to Christine and Walter Collins. What a way for a child to die. It is so sad that this single mom who was doing such a great job raising her only son had to live this type of life. Too bad Christine did not answer that phone call to go into work that day. But she was a responsible hard working mom who probably did that many times before. In those days kids would stay in the 10cent movie all day with a sandwich . Many single moms would rely on that. Doing something as honorable as providing for her son and then have to come home to an empty house facing the unevitable.
    This woman was an angel and so was her son
    God bless them both.

  • audrey clark

    I don’t think Walter was lucky enough to escape the chicken ranch. He wasn’t thrilled with his mother for going to work, but if he had survivied, I’m sure he would have contacted her, sometime, somehow in her lifetime. It is a very sad situation.

  • audrey clark

    Angelina Jolie did a wonderful job of portraying a distraugtht mother trying to find her son. She went through what no mother should have to go through.
    Christine and Walter are together now and in a better place. My prayers go out to the rest of the Collins family, if there is any, that will never know the answer. I pray the wings of the Holy Spirit keep them lifted and someday they might find out what happened to Walter.
    My 2 sons were kidnapped by thier father and it was HELL trying to find them. I can relate to how Christine must have felt. Only I found my boys. God rest her precious soul

  • JESSY

    OK I HAVE A QUESTION…WHY DID NORTHCOTT WANT TO MEET WITH CHRISTINE COLLINS? WHAT DID HE WANT TO TELL HER? I KNOW THAT WALTER TRIED TO ESCAPE BUT DID HE ACTUALLY GET AWAY? WHEN IN THE COURT ROOM NORHTCOTT SAID, “I WOULD NEVER HURT WALTER, HE’S AN ANGEL.” DID HE SAY THAT BCUZ WALTER GOT AWAY SO HE DIDN’T GET A CHANCE TO KILL HIM OR DID HE ACTUALLY KILL HIM AND WAS JUST TRYING TO SARCASTIC ABOUT THE SITUATION? ME PERSONALLY, I THINK WALTER GOT AWAY. IF HE DID I DON’T KNOW WHY HE WOULDN’T CALL HOME AND LET HIS MOM KNOW HE WAS OK BUT I REALLY FEEL IN MY HEART THAT HE GOT AWAY. MAYBE HE JUST RAN AWAY OUT OF FEAR AND LET THE PEOPLE THINK HE WAS DEAD. WHY WASN’T ANY DNA DONE ON THE REMAINS THAT WERE FOUND? THE LAPD WAS SO CORRUPTED THEN, IT WAS A SHAME. ESPECIALLY HOW THEY LOCKED HER IN AN INSTITUTE TO TRY TO MAKE HER THINK SHE WAS CRAZY. A MOTHER KNOWS HER CHILD.

  • jordan

    i just watch changeling its sad gordon nortcott is demeted

  • jyl

    QUESTION:
    WHAT WAS GORDON NORTHCOTT DOING IN CALIFORNIA? WOULDN’T SOMEONE HAVE RECOGNIZED HIM AND SAID THEY SAW HIM THERE THE DAY WALTER DISAPPEARED? IF THEY HAD TO DRIVE FROM CALIFORNIA TO ILLINOIS BACK IN THE 20′S, DON’T YOU THINK THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO ESCAPE? I DON’T UNDERSTAND THIS PART. ANY IDEAS OUT THERE?

  • Sue

    Wow, what a story~ I just did some research on it. The killer’s mother also was involved in the murders and did jail time, only 5 years b/c she was a woman! She confessed to killing Walter Collins, retracted it, then confessed again. She said her son was innocent. Makes no sense, huh??
    I personally think Walter was killed. If he had gotten away it seems he would have gotten in touch w/his Mom. He was only a little boy, after all.
    Also, research shows Walter’s father ( Christine’s husband) was in prison for robbery when the boy disappeared. He thought someone involved in the prison took the boy out of wrath for him.
    One website has actual articles from the LA times back then. Poor Christine- having to life her whole life not knowing. I would lose my mind if it happened to me.
    The way she was treated was appalling, to say the least.
    I’m a nurse and wasn’t thrilled at the depiction of the nurses but I’m sure if could have been like that. Yikes!
    I would also love to know what happened to that horrible doctor.
    What a riveting movie! But to know it was true is so sad. I wish it had been a Hollywood creation instead.
    Bless those poor people.

  • Lil

    jyl, They weren’t in Illinois, the man’s chicken farm was in wineville, CA, which they showed later the name was changed to Mira Loma, CA. Which by the way is still here, I go to the movies there.Northcott was from Canada, he bought a one way ticket to Seattle so that he could drive across the border to Canada. Christine and Walter lived in Pasadena, CA, if the tram was correct. As far as if Walter was killed I can’t be sure because Sanford said that David was one of the murdered boys as well and yet he had escaped, and was later proved to be alive. So, you can’t be sure about Walter either. Well God rest their souls. I hope she was re-united with him in heaven :).

  • Lil

    jyl, They weren’t in Illinois, the man’s chicken farm was in wineville, CA, which they showed later the name was changed to Mira Loma, CA. Which by the way is still here, I go to the movies there.Northcott was from Canada, he bought a one way ticket to Seattle so that he could drive across the border to Canada. Christine and Walter lived in Pasadena, CA, if the tram was correct. As far as if Walter was killed I can’t be sure because Sanford said that David was one of the murdered boys as well and yet he had escaped, and was later proved to be alive. So, you can’t be sure about Walter either. Well God rest their souls. I hope she was re-united with him in heaven :).

  • Kenney

    I think that Walter did survive and that he found his father! If that’s the case, then his father either convinced him not to say anything or changed his name and identity and did a damn good job of keeping him away from the news and media.

  • Jimmy Kickels

    Did Walter escape or was he re-captured?

    Either way, after the execution of Gordon Northcott in ’30, the only other person who would know the answer would have been Sanford Clark (according to the boy in the movie ‘David Clay’ who came forward 5 years after the execution of Northcott to tell the Walter escape story and how Gordon and Sanford chased Walter and another boy into the night with their car).

    It is said that Gordon Northcott inflicted additional emotional cruelty to Mrs. Collins when she visited him at the penitentary the day before he was executed, as he refused to tell her anything further about Walter, as he had promised.

    If Gordon Northcott was cruel in his silence to Mrs. Collins, what would that make Sanford Clark?

    Sanford Clark refused to speak any further of the Wineville Chicken Coop Murders (when approached by authorities regarding the escape or re-capture of Walter), some 5 years after the execution of Gordon Northcott. Sanford had served his sentence at Whittier and was released and living in Canada and no longer legally required to comply with any further questioning.

    According to the story, Sanford was re-approached by authorities after ‘David Clay’ came forward 5 years after the execution of Gordon Northcott to tell that Walter had escaped with another boy, and that David did
    not know whether or not Gordon and Sanford had re-captured them.

    Although Sanford was not legally required to speak, there is something called moral grounds to speak.

    Others have stated that Sanford Clark led an exemplary life, in that he served in WWII, adopted children, stayed married all of his life and was a model citizen in his community, amongst other citations.

    To me, that does seem like a very morally upstanding character, and yet we have to take the very opposite belief, if it is true that Sanford Clark was approached by authorities 5 years after the execution of Gordon Northcott and refused to answer basic questions that could have, once and for all, put Mrs. Collins questions to rest regarding Walter’s escape or murder.

    Sanford Clark had the opportunity to tell Mrs. Collins whether or not her son had completely escaped or was re-captured and murdered at the chicken coop.

    Sanford Clark, like his uncle, Gordon Northcott, took that secret with him to his grave.

    In November ’09, there is supposed to be a book that is being released that tells the story of Sanford Clark, as he told it to his son.

    It will be very interesting to see what the book has to say about Walter’s escape or not.

    Remember, it is only through a boy (named in the movie ‘David Clay’) that we learn of Walter’s escape some 5 years after Gordon had been executed.

    Sanford Clark had to know whether or not Walter had escaped or not, (according to David Clay, as depicted in the movie).

    It is very difficult for me to believe that duringthe interrrogation process that Sanford Clark is confessing to several murders, (including Walter’s), and he is also confessing to his own molestation. Sanford is also identifying which boys were at the chicken coop and which boys weren’t, and that somehow out of all of these confessions and interrogation that Sanford Clark forgets to tell authorities that………….”Oh Yea, a couple of the boys escaped and one of them was Walter”. Or you would at least think Sanford Clark would have said “Oh Yea………….a couple of boys did escape, but we only re-captured 2 of the 3, and Walter was one of the 2 that we did re-capture and when Gordon got them back, he murdered both of them”………….somehow for me, it just doesn’t add up.

    I personally believe that Walter was murdered at the Chicken-Coop, just like Sanford Clark, Gordon Northcott (and his mother in real life) confessed to, and all 3 were tried and convicted, resulting in the hanging of one………..Gordon Northcott.

    What do you think?

    Did Sanford take the secret of Walter’s escape to his grave with him, just like his uncle Gordon Northcott………….was this ‘exemplary citizen’ really that cruel………..or was Walter murdered just like Sanford, Gordon and his mother testified that he was and he never escaped or was never re-captured?

  • sai

    was the child found. .?

  • Saddened

    It only makes sense if you think that Sanford was made to kill Walter.

  • Jimmy Kickels

    The child was never found alive.

    In 1928, they did not have DNA to do testing for bones and stuff like that, like today, however, they did have the testimony of Gordon Northcott’s mother, who confessed to the murder and was convicted, as well as the testimony of Sanford Clark who testified that he was an accomplice to the murder of Walter Collins.

    One of Walter Collins shoes was found at Gordon Northcott’s LA home, and I believe that the other was found at the Wineville Chicken Coop Murder scene.

    Why do people think that Walter Collins escaped? Is it from that scene in the movie? I guess so.

    But again, think about it………..why would Mrs. Northcott and Sanford Clark testify that they participated in the murder of Walter, if he had, in fact, escaped?

    It does not make sense that people think that Walter escaped just because of the movie.

    That would fly in complete disregard for the facts that the State of California prosecuted people over.

    I do believe that Mrs. Collins preferred to think that Walter had escaped, as opposed to thinking what really happened to her little boy……….murder, molestation and whatever else.

    But just because Mrs. Collins chose to ignore the trial and the facts of the case, does not mean that some 81 years later, people who saw the movie, should be ignoring the facts of the case.

    Walter was murdered………plain and simple…………he never escaped. I hate to be the on taking your hopes away that he escaped and went onto a wonderful life, but it did not happen.

    I know you want hope…………just like Mrs. Collins did, but facts are facts, especially dead facts.

  • Meghan age10

    Oh my gosh I watched this with my family and I thought I was going to die crying! I watched it tonight and I’m afraid to move!!!!! This is not meant for children. It’s very depressing. I don’t think Christina ever found her son. I think he was killed. I can’t imagine going through somthing as horrible as that! Losing my son OR being hacked into tiny peices and supposivly shot! I never want to see this movie again, or I’ll will possibly cry my eyes out!

  • britt

    i think that if walter was alive that he woulda came out and told anyone who he was or gone bak home to give his mother some peace… even if he was scared that doesnt make a difference bcuz im sure the news that gordon was executed was nationwide. and for those reasons i believe that walter was killed.

  • britt

    kenny, your stupid. walter was killed the facts lead to that i dont like saying but yea..

  • felicity

    where’s christine now?

  • felicity

    where is christine now??

  • maria

    i really hope he did and i saw that movie (changling) and i saw him escape i just know he did and trully HOPE he did but if he didn’t the really sad part is is that his mom never got to go to the movies with him :(
    and he was only 9 or 10 when he died. I am really mad at that guy who killed all those boys and i know this sounds bad but im really glad and he TOTALLY deserved to get hung. I think they made that movie as relistick as possible, they pretty much showed EVERYTHING. that man had the sickest mind on earth. he is totally even with jefery domer and if you don’t know who that is google him (he was a canable-eats people) Don’t even get me started about those stupid police officers, they shoul feel ashames of themselves well i would if i were one of them. they could of saved alot of those boys lifes. And it was also good that walter helped that one boy escape or he would have been dead. I wonder if that boy walter saved is still alive and that other boy who also escaped, anyways i am so P.O.ed at that man for killing all those poor inasent boys. DANG THAT MAKES ME REALLY MAD AND VERY VERY VERY SAD:(:(:(:(:(

  • Heckler

    I too was fascinated by the movie and did additional research. The most comprehensive source of accurate information on this subject is the book by James Jeffrey Paul entitled “Nothing Is Strange With You”.
    It was as captivating a read as “Devil in The White City” about another abject psychopath from the same era named Herman Mudgett, who killed potentially 100+ people in Chicago, in and around the World’s Fair.

    The Changeling takes dramatic license with many topics and doesn’t mirror fact necessarily, though it is acurate with the major developments. What it doesn’t convey is that Northcott’s abduction model changed over time. Early on, he would abduct boys, blind fold them, molest them at the chicken ranch and then let them go. Police would later interview wome of these boys but his total number of victims is unkown

    In my opinion, poor little Walter suffered imeasurably and was killed by a mentally deteriorating Northcott, whose paranoia quotient grew with every crime.

  • Corinna

    i jut finished watching this movie with my mom. it is so sad. i cant believe what the mom had to go through. and the stupid police that didnt want to admit they found the wrong kid! if they would’ve believed her then maybe they would’ve found him! i really do hope walter got out safely and somehow survived. but if he did survive then why would he not go back to his mother? yes he would most likely be scared to go back, but you would think that after at least 30 years he would confront everyone and tell them who he was and finally get reunited with his mother. because thats all she ever wanted…so my guess is that he was probably shot to death while he was trying to escape. or maybe he escaped and got lost and died in the desert or somthing. who knows. but i really do hope he survived!…..the mom was so strong!! and Walter so brave to go back to help te other kid out of the fence!!

  • Corinna

    i jut finished watching this movie with my mom. it is so sad. i cant believe what the mom had to go through. and the stupid police that didnt want to admit they found the wrong kid! if they would’ve believed her then maybe they would’ve found him! i really do hope walter got out safely and somehow survived. but if he did survive then why would he not go back to his mother? yes he would most likely be scared to go back, but you would think that after at least 30 years he would confront everyone and tell them who he was and finally get reunited with his mother. because thats all she ever wanted…so my guess is that he was probably shot to death while he was trying to escape. or maybe he escaped and got lost and died in the desert or somthing. who knows. but i really do hope he survived!…..the mom was so strong!! and Walter so brave to go back to help te other kid out of the fence!!

  • Anonymous

    I watched Changeling and the movie and story was AMAZING. personaly i think walter did ecsape. but maybe he was captured by northcott. when he was shooting at the boys it looked like he shot walter. but of course no one knows. its so hard to belive that christine had to go through all that. you coud tell that the guy who said he was walter really wasnt. why did northcott want to talk to collins if he didnt tell her if he really did kill walter. and maybe he said he was an angle because he didnt try to like the other boys to get out until they found where the wire was messed up. the story is grusom an seeing the boys point of veiw was hard to watch. when she saw how much shorter the boy is comparied to walters you could tell it WASNT him.
    the movie is GREAT but i wouldnt want a child to watch it.

  • Ina

    I just want to say that no a body was never found but I believe if he was alive he would have came forward. I think it took a very strong willed and strong minded person to go through what the mother went through and for that I do not feel sorry for her. She found strenght in the most amazing beautiful feeling inthe world love for your child and im sure that love kept her going. She kept all she could of her son and that was his memory and hope so if that is what she needed to get through the nights well bless her and her son . Im not a strong believer in faith but the bible says jesus loves his children and walter and his mother was just that so god bless you christine and god bless you walter. rest in peace

  • Ina

    I just want to say that no a body was never found but I believe if he was alive he would have came forward. I think it took a very strong willed and strong minded person to go through what the mother went through and for that I do not feel sorry for her. She found strenght in the most amazing beautiful feeling inthe world love for your child and im sure that love kept her going. She kept all she could of her son and that was his memory and hope so if that is what she needed to get through the nights well bless her and her son . Im not a strong believer in faith but the bible says jesus loves his children and walter and his mother was just that so god bless you christine and god bless you walter. rest in peace

  • http://bguhuygutg7ytgu Danny

    Why would this sick horrible and twisted kid napper slaghter inacent children FOR NO REASON.If so why wouldnt they continue the search for Walter Collins honesthly i think Gordan deserved what he got. REST IN PEACE CHRISTINE COLLINS AND WALTER COLLINS

  • Patrick

    Apparently the last known sighting of Christine Collins was in 1941 after she filed a legal document. Depressing and fascinating movie

  • Brandon

    Yes the 3 or 4 boys did escape, but they didnt find out from david that they escaped until after the phycopath was hung, hence not being able to find out if he cought them or not… and Walter Collins’ bones were dug up after the Police came to the ranch and the boy started digging, and i know thats him because at the end (showing how they escaped) it shows his bones next to all them tree trunks were the boy rested and hid.

  • Anonymous

    why was nothing done about the head of the psych ward? he gave people electro convulsive therapy just because they spoke out against him which could have made them vegetables and is highly illegal to say the least. Maybe this didnt really happen in real life but if it did, you’d think he should have gotten busted along with the rest…

  • Aura

    You have to remember that the movie is NOT 100% fact. The scenes of the boys escaping are Clint Eastwood’s version of what may have happened, although is said to be true.
    There is no reason to suppose Walter lived. No one spoke up of the escapees until after one of the boys was found alive.
    Walter is depicted as a selfless person for going back to help the other child. His story was known nation wide. News spread of his kidnappers arrest and trials. The boy had no reason to hide after this. Even so, by the time he would have become an adult, rationality would have bested him. One would think he would attempt to find his mother.
    Because his mother was all he had in his life I do not believe Walter escaped and went on to live a happy life. A happy person would not leave a loved one living in torment the way his mother, Christine did.
    The rest of my opinions on the movie and events of this case aren’t important.

  • Aura

    You have to remember that the movie is NOT 100% fact. The scenes of the boys escaping are Clint Eastwood’s version of what may have happened, although is said to be true.
    There is no reason to suppose Walter lived. No one spoke up of the escapees until after one of the boys was found alive.
    Walter is depicted as a selfless person for going back to help the other child. His story was known nation wide. News spread of his kidnappers arrest and trials. The boy had no reason to hide after this. Even so, by the time he would have become an adult, rationality would have bested him. One would think he would attempt to find his mother.
    Because his mother was all he had in his life I do not believe Walter escaped and went on to live a happy life. A happy person would not leave a loved one living in torment the way his mother, Christine did.
    The rest of my opinions on the movie and events of this case aren’t important.

  • Aura

    You have to remember that the movie is NOT 100% fact. The scenes of the boys escaping are Clint Eastwood’s version of what may have happened, although is said to be true.
    There is no reason to suppose Walter lived. No one spoke up of the escapees until after one of the boys was found alive.
    Walter is depicted as a selfless person for going back to help the other child. His story was known nation wide. News spread of his kidnappers arrest and trials. The boy had no reason to hide after this. Even so, by the time he would have become an adult, rationality would have bested him. One would think he would attempt to find his mother.
    Because his mother was all he had in his life I do not believe Walter escaped and went on to live a happy life. A happy person would not leave a loved one living in torment the way his mother, Christine did.
    The rest of my opinions on the movie and events of this case aren’t important.

  • Jacky

    OMG Reading these comments the thing that disturbs me most is the spelling mistakes and dumbness. Can you really think we had DNA testing in the 1930′s?!

  • Tiffany

    Did someone really ask where is Christine now? I agree with Jacky disturbing the idiocy and lack of common sense.

    great movie though.

  • amanda

    my comment is this, the only other person that new if the boys whom had escaped were caught was the boy who turned in his uncle why had no one asked him if they ever caught them and how many? especaily when the assumed dead boy showed up and told his story?

  • Kizzie

    I am also very disturbed by the horrendous spelling mistakes and the idiocy of people believing the movie is REAL.. you were not watching the actual events .. it was a scripted movie performed by actors on the information available.. they even left out the mother of Northcott.. … I actually can’t believe I am commenting on this…..
    I would like to know what happened to the minister and also to the whole “Directive 12′ situation.. I feel compelled to research this further.

    RIP Christine and Walter..

  • Jade

    Bitches, don’t slander people for having an opinion, or making spellig mistakes. I can’t believe I’m comenting on this hahahahaha, ppl. Like u shouldn’t be aloud to roam this earth. Get your facts straight then come back to me with your bullshit theories.

  • clarebear

    so many people see these films that are said to be “based on a true story” and believe them to be totally true. thank those of you who realize that this is just a movie with a few facts thrown in. i do believe that there is no evidence any of the boys actually escaped. that part of the film was added to spice up the film, to leave you with a sense of hope. as for the grammatically incorrect and the misspellers, is it really that important to point it out?

  • yea chea xea

    i really dont give a fuck

  • jimmy kickels

    Not sure what the big debate about whether or not Walter lived………according to the screenwriter:

    “There were a number of references to a boy found years later who escaped after the Collins murder.”

    Please not the words………”after the Collins murder.”

  • Tom

    I live a few miles away from the site where the murders happened. I think that was a horrible thing that did happen out there, but I also truly think after reading a lot of research they have on the case through the net (and eventually I am going to get the book that talks about it.) Walter Collins is one of the children that was killed by Northcott on the ranch. Christine died in the 1960′s never knowing what really happened to her son but like most people I hope that they were reunited in heaven.

  • nobody

    I just watched the movie. The first thing I’m gonna do is let my 11 year old see this movie. Northcott is dead but there are still predators in our communities. Children need to know what these animals are capable of. Parents should use this as an educational tool. The luring kids with other kids strategy would probably work on most of your kids.

  • person

    If you guys only saw the movie you would know that Walter and two other boys made a run for it and he never found them execpt for Walter’s shoe. Walter saved a boy from his foot caught in the fence. They were in the middle of no-where so even if they did escape, they probably did not live, they were all about 9. They found one boy who turned himself in but they didn’t find the other 2 which Walter was one of them. Walter could’ve survived but we’ll never know. Look them up on wickapedia to find out the real story. The movie is called CHANGELING i saw it last night it is so sad it made me want to cry.

  • http://fgh conichua

    i think that walter collins did not escape the chicken coop ranch

  • waldoz

    Well I had two thoughts that were held with me throughout the movie and thought they were going to happen at a certain point..

    1st the kid that was with the killer (his causin) he did identify Walter Collins photo.. so if there was an incident of kids running away from the ranch he would surely rememeber if Walter Collins got away or not.. We never saw a confrontation on that point..

    2nd, just a theory of mine.. if the police were working on a cover up and made the mom take another boy in exchange it makes perfect sense they’d do anythign to attain a happy ending that includes, hiding the remains of the kid themselves, they might have found his remains and decided to have a happy ending by convicning her the ohter child was her own.. the kid couldn’t just disapear.. and if he was alive with all the publicity he would of shown up sooner or later…

  • honey money

    i haven’t seen this film but i think it’s pretty good, when i saw a trailer, i burst into tears ,hmm!So emotional

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wineville_Chicken_Coop_Murders Vernon Noveda Villanueva

    According to wikepedia, Walter Collins was the first one to be killed not by Gordon but by his mother(Gordon’s mother).

    Poor boys molested before chopped to death. Poor Sanford Clark he was molested as well.

  • andiroso

    yo tengo una teoria:
    Suponiendo que hubiese escapado herido y por campo a traves, hubiera muerto por las heridas en alguna otra zona por aquellos ranchos con vastas esplanadas, esto es posible ya que no especificaron alguna busqueda por los alrededores, encontrando los huesos de los cuerpos podan adivinar la estatura de los nios asesinados, y esta es posible que no coincidiera con la marca de altura que puso la madre en una de sus puertas.

  • kris

    I seriously doubt that her co-worker (ben) had anything to do with her sons kidnapping. if you re-call he was at work with her the day walter went missing. also, he seemed like he was interested in christine.

  • gesley

    the co worker was never involved. The movie ” Changeling” depicted him as a person who was interested in Cristine(the mother). Also, If some of you guys researched this case you would know that Sanford Clark (the nephew of Gordon Northcott)at the trials said he never knew about an escape from the boys.There has never been full proof that there was an excape. In “Changeling” they say that there was a boy who claimed he was on that ranch with walter Collins. In the true story there was a boy who claimed that, but there was no prrof that was true. It is speculated that he was just a runaway and had decided to come back home and all the info he knew bout the case came from the papers, which is possible. A lot of the Wineville Chicken Coop murders is speculation.He was also only convicted of 3 murders when he is speculated to have killed over 20 which he probably did. Only Northcott and those victims truly know what happened. WE are just left with the mystery of the truth.

  • diane

    the hanging of gordon is not enough for what he did to those poor children!! anyway, may GOD have mercy on his soul!! and for walter and christine, may you rest in peace now that you`re together now…. in heaven…..

  • junelyn

    rip!!!

  • lalagrl

    Ok well first off I hate the fact that people are still asking “why didn’t they do that or this” when obviously it’s been 80 yrs since the chicken coop murders .. I agree with a couple of comments there wasn’t any resources to provide DNA testing back in the 1920′s and according to wikipiedia the real story shows that Walter Collins was in fact murdered at the ranch in one of the coops after being held there for a week and brutally murdered by Susan Northcott (Gordons grandmother). Apparently before Gordon’s tactics of kidnapping boys did not conclude with killing them. He would blindfold them and have his way with them, sexually molest them by sodomy and oral induction as well as beating them and starving them, and he then eventually let them go. Sometimes he would sell them to the best paying California Hustlers for prostitution. Fact: his first murder crime was to a young mexican teenager theres also reference about a book call the “Headless Mexican” after sexually molesting him he chopped off his head and left it on the side of the road near “La Puente Hwy”. He also kidnapped Sanford to help him run his ranch for awhile but then later got him inolved with the boys murders. The story shows that he had already kidnapped the “Winslow Brothers” killed them and used quicklime to dispose of the bodies and later buried them which is what Sanford did. Going back to Walter Collins Susan Northcott went to visit Gordon at his ranch and suspected that he was keeping a child captive in the coops, hence she found Walter and apparently decided to kill him because he had been there for a week and already knew to much of other boys being brought an killed at the ranch. She would do the hatching of his body while the young boy was asleep but also decided to get Sanford and Gordon to participate so that they share the guilt of killing Walter and so they wouldn’t testify against eachother. So to all who have doubts about Walter Collins escape?, he didn’t she confessed to the crime and also Sanford put it on writing he nevered mentioned 2 or 3 boys had escaped and later captured or that one of them was Walter. Facts show that it was conspired that there were more than 20 boys slaughter but only evidence proved that 3 were accounted for. Including Walter Collins and in the movie the last escape was potrayed by Clint Eastwood and it was never proved to have actually happened in the real story. But of course research can only tell so much. For more info read the LATimes search under “Chicken Coop Murders”. Thank You