Amat vs. Muir coming this season …

Muir has agreed to Bishop Amat in Week 3, Mustangs coach Ken Howard confirmed on Friday. The game is likely to be at Amat.

The game pits two of the San Gabriel Valley’s most storied football programs in what should be a treat for area fans.

“We’re not doing this to puff out our chests and think we can call all these other teams out,” Howard said. “We want to take on tough teams and get ourselves ready for the playoffs. When you take on Bishop Amat, you can’t do anything but get better at what you do.”

Howard’s program has taken on powers like Oaks Christian in recent seasons, so stepping up is nothing new. Muir should possess some of the better line play in the area next season, but the Mustangs are very young at the skill positions.

“I don’t have any film on Bishop Amat, so I can only speak for my guys,” Howard said. “Our line has been in these types of games, but as far as our skill guys, we’re young. I think we’ll be geared up for it.”


These guys are old enough to know what Amat-Muir is all about.

Aram’s take: Unreal. Two schools that have produced some of the best talent in Valley history are getting back on the same field. A win by Muir at Amat would set the party off in Pasadena. Any of you with some historical perspective on previous meetings between these schools, please chime in. Freddie always talks about a game he saw late 80s/early 90s when Muir won on the last play of the game with a trick play. Granted, both teams are still trying to get back to what they were in the 80s and 90s, but this is just a beautiful matchup. This should pretty much firm up Amat’s 2010 schedule. I should have the complete list from Lancers coach Steve Hagerty next week. But most of you Amat honks should be able to pretty much fill in the blanks yourselves. I should have Muir’s full schedule from Howard tomorrow. It’s funny, but even though it was a loss, it seems like the near-upset of Charter Oak last year has rejuvenated Muir more than anything. If the Mustangs can take the next step, man oh man, what a show they would put on.

  • Ed Asner Loves Bishop Amat

    Is that Ed Asner at a Bishop Amat game ? WHOOOOOO KNEWWWWWW!!

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    Please stop with the racial jokes. Nobody wants to read your stupid attempts at humor. Also, from this point forward if you post a racial joke, I’m banning your IP address. That means you’ll have time to come up with lame racial jokes all the way down to the library and all the way back. And then I’ll ban you there, too.

  • Let’s Be Clear !

    Aram are you referencing the Hagerty Train? I can’t think of what was humorous about the comment or an attempt at a racial joke of any kind? My point was Hagerty Is scheduling by areas (Damien, West Covina, Diamond Ranch and now Muir) that may be recruiting hotbeds previously well farmed in the hey day of Amat’s glory.

    You kind of got me off guard on that one. Seems inconsistent to say that comment had any racial over tones especially when I know what I’m about and making racial jokes is something I would never tolerate in my presence much less from my mouth.

    Having experienced racial hatred first hand I can tell you racial jokes lead to racial profiling lead to racial violence lead to…you get the picture.

    I think you read more into the comment than could have ever been intended, you have my word on it!

  • Sorry Aram

    Sorry Aram I thought I’d written the Hagerty Express on your blog instead of Fred’s. Glad to read you’re banning racial jokes, my bad!

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    No, wasn’t referencing your comment. I was referencing a comment that I’ve already deleted. I liked your comment, actually.

  • East Coast Lancer

    The year was 1990 (or 1991?) and it was not a trick play.

    BA was up by 4 points with time running out. Muir had the ball at about their own 30 yard line with about 7 seconds left to play in the game. (These are all approximations)

    Muir QB dropped back for a Hail Mary pass and was almost sacked until he launched the ball about 20 yards downfield. It was caught, and the Muir WR appeared to be wrapped up…

    Game over right?

    NOPE! In desperation, the Muir WR lateraled the ball to another Muir WR who ran it untouched into the endzone for the final TD with time expiring.

    I remember the Muir bench erupting w/joy and stormed the field. Two Muir players did a little dance on the field. It was a horrible night at Keifer! lol!

    READY FOR SOME CONTROVERSY?

    Now I do not know if this was just hurt pride but all the Bishop Amat football players (and Coach Mark Paredes)had two claims about this last play. One,they said that the Muir QB was already passed the line of scrimmage when he threw. And two, the Muir WR who lateraled the ball after his catch was down (knee) right before he tossed the ball. It was a very short lateral and more like an “extended” handoff” as he went down. No instant replay! lol! And of course, it was well known that the CIF sent an infamous “phantom apology letter.”

    If it was 1990, then BA had players like QB Zack Zertuche, RB Motu Ili (Wilhan’s older bro), and WR Jeremy Smith.

    I could be wrong on the year and score but I definitely remember that is was not a trick play. Please feel free to correct me my friends…

    Amat and Muir are old foes…This is going to be a great game!!!

    ON BLUE!!!

  • Arroyo Knight

    Hey Aram can we get some love for the Arroyo Knights? I would love to see who is on their schedule this year.

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    East Coast Lancer,

    That’s what I’m talkin’ about!!!!! Beautiful.

    Does anybody know the last time that Amat played Muir?

  • Justrab

    I remember Muir’s home field in the early 80′s was a bit rough, but they had some great teams. The guy in the photo (Mark Cazarez #42) would remember the 81 game with Muir. Amat won 6 to 0. Muir featured DeDe Moore who was as good as J Hollway (sp) aka Oklahoma. He was about 6’0 200 and was a tailback who ran their option. Somehow Amat shut them down that night (scores, not running), but I recall that game well.

  • The Stang Fan

    Ed Asner??? Hilarious!

    Aram, I LOVE this game! Lots of tradition and history.

    Mr. Amat/SGV (Joe Amat) has posted that the Lancers are 9-1 against the Stangs. Yeah that’s owned all right. The lone win in 89-90 was awesome! I’d always thought that final play was a called hook and ladder, so East Coat Lancer’s post was interesting. The last time the two teams hooked up was in the mid 2000′s and Amat smacked us good. The new century hasn’t been good to Muir. The school’s drop in population from around 2000 kids in the early 90′s to about 1100-1200 in the 2000′s has hit hard, along with the a major change in demographic. Something that has occurred throughout the SGV. But we ALWAYS have talent in Pasadena.

    The overall impression that Muir is an over-talented/under-coached team doesn’t ring hollow, sadly. If a major coach were to bring his staff to town, he’d win a lot of games. Quickly. The only school that can match Joe Amat’s infamous “list” is Muir. So, the fact that we don’t have more rings lends credence to the coaching argument. It’s not that they coaches are bad, they just aren’t as experienced, and they don’t stick around long enough. Jim Brownfield showed what could be done if a great coach were to stick around. Not only that, but ALL the talent that goes to other schools (Riley at SF, Marable at Alemany, the CO boys, etc.) might stay. (Enter academic issue here.)

    Next year’s game will be great! There is quite a bit of talent on Lincoln Ave., and though I don’t think we can take down the Lancers, the boys will put up a good fight.

    Can’t wait!!!

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    Stang Fan,

    Great to hear from you! Not only is there a lot of talent on Lincoln Ave., there’s also Jim’s, which I still love. Going there tomorrow probably, in fact.

    I’ve always said that if all the ‘Dena talent went to one place, that place would be unstoppable. It’s sad that it doesn’t. It’s like Muir and PHS have to split their talent with the private schools and other publics … and it has to be worse there than it is any other place in the Valley.

  • SGV Athlete

    The last time AMAT and Muir played was in 2003. It was a good overall game, played at Muir. AMAT ended up winning 31-7.

    This game has alot of history, and I am glad it is going to happen. But, I still think its terrible that AMAT lost so many games from last season. As of right now, AMAT will be playing Garfield, Venice, Cathedral, Muir, Damien, and St. Bonnies in non-league games. While I am glad that AMAT can maintain some big names, I think the schedule could be stronger. (OLu, St. Paul, Dominguez, Valencia, Hart, etc.)

    Good Luck Lancers!!

  • Stang Alumf

    Ok old stang alum coming out of the closet. Yes I was at that game when Muir won on that last second play. One of the greatest come from behind victories I have experience in person in all of sports.
    i remember Muir being heavy dogs entering the game and trailing I believ by 17 or 21 points early in the fourth quarter. i think Demetrius Martin was the qb( later playing DB at Michigan State) Muir put together a comeback thanks to a couple of Amat turnovers. Anyway somehom Muir gets the ball back inside a minute and after a time out from their own 35 or 40 yard line with less than 10 seconds left puts together either a flea flicker or hook and ladder play about 25 yards down field. I believe one of the Milton brothers caught the initial pass and Muirs receiver out raced Amats secondary for the touchdown as time expired.
    That year Amat was highly ranked in D1 and was lead by USC bound Scott Fields. I think Reggie Resser Stephan Crutchfield were on this team.
    Always great to revisit Muirs glory years.

  • The Stang Fan

    Aram,

    Jims? And I thought the only white guys that ate at Jim’s were the La Canada High students who trek to NW Pasadena at lunch time! If you are a real Jim’s fan then you’ll know this reference: “Two fry down!” Btw, after eating a bag of fries from Jim’s I didn’t have to lotion my hands for like 3 days! Grease galore.

    Many have shared the same sentiments about the talent in Pasadena/Altadena. If it all stayed, and played under a great coach, you’re talking powerhouse program. Last year alone there were 3 guys from Pasadena who received checks from NFL teams and plenty of others receiving free educations in college. Btw, the “shared” kids don’t lead the Valley, they are tops in the nation, as 30% of Pasadena’s students attend private schools (compared to the national average of 8-10%), not to mention all the kids that attend other publics. (Again, enter academic argument here.)

    Justrab,

    Dede was a stud! One of the best athletes in Muir’s history, who starred at Wazzou and was later released from the Eagles after a pinched nerve ended his career. Sadly, he passed away a couple of years ago after suffering from ALS (Lou Gehrig’s disease).

    SGV Athlete,

    While I think Amat’s schedule isn’t as strong as some may like, it really has to do with Amat’s success against those teams, who don’t like losing to a “former” power. I guess it’s sexier losing to Poly, Centennial, OLu, etc.

    Stang Alum,

    That team was SOLID! Sr. E. Mahone (USC), Jr. R. Reser (Washington), Sr. D. Benedict (UNLV), Sr. S. Crutchfield (BYU) Jr. D. Martin (Michigan St./now DB coach at UW), Sr. P. Joiner (Cal), Jr. H. Curtis (Colorado), Jr. S. Thomas (Oregon St.), Jr. H. McCullough (BYU), So. D. Stewart (UNLV), Sr. A. Devizan (Long Beach St.) So. R. Jones (Oregon St.), Sr. M. Mushonga (Hawaii), Sr. S. Williford (SDSU), and So. R. Smith (Colorado). Beyond impressive. This was the last team to win a title…ok, they actually tied. Coach Tyree should have been much more aggressive in that game. Ah, the glory years…

  • New York

    Muir certainly does not back down from competition. Good for them.

  • Amat vs. Muir 2010 = Awesome Matchup

    It does not matter how strong Amat’s preseason is. They could play cupcakes all five games but because they are in the Serra, a win over Notre Dame, Crespi, or Loyola automatically raises them to “Elite” status. While other programs in the San Gabriel Valley have to prove that they can compete with these elites by scheduling up, the same does not apply to BA.

    Why you ask? Well it’s probably because BA has been competing at the highest level in California state football for the past 30 years. The Lancers do not have to prove anything to anyone. When another SGV school joins the Pac-5 and does 20 years in it, that school will earn the right to point a finger at BA’s scheduling. But we all know that this will never happen.

    BA vs. Muir is going to be a great game for fans. And for those of you with short memories, Charter Oak barely escaped Muir by one single point (20-19) this past season. Although I personally do not consider Charter Oak an elite football school, SGV fans have to respect Muir for what they almost pulled off.

    Muir is no cupcake and Bishop Amat has total respect for any program that A.) Used to play Bishop Amat regularly and B.) Has the balls to play Oaks Christian EVERY YEAR for the past six years.

    So like, is anyone gonna call out Oaks Christian or accuse them of cupcake scheduling for playing Muir every year?

    LOL! No…I didn’t think so.

  • Just so you know

    Diamond Ranch beat Muir two out of the last three times, something to consider.

  • Muir=small school?

    Muir has only 1100 students? I’d always thought they were much larger. They should be playing the Duarte’s & SD’s, not the Oaks Christian’s & BA’s.

  • BAHS

    Not for one moment does Amat believe that Muir will be an easy game! Muir has brought it everytime they have squared off with the Lancers. Good to see ya back in the mix Mustangs. Looking forward to a good one! See ya soon!

  • Amat Elite Lancers

    All I go to say is that Muir got lucky last year they caught a cocky team in Charter Oak last year. If Charter Oak would have took Muir seriuos it would have been a blowout. We’ll show Charter Oak how the men in blue finish oppenents. I dont care if we have history, we have been slapping Muir and will continue to slap Muir. I’m calling it by halftime just like the Diamond Ranch Games!

  • BAHS

    Obviously this Amat poser is trying to incite some Amat backlash. Give it up “Amat Elite” – just by reading your drivel we can tell who you are. Nice try though. IF you were a true Amat backer you would know that the Lancers have much respect for all opponents and real Family members Do Not come on here and pop off in such a moronic manner. Forget about that clown Stang faithful, The Lancers await, with class.

  • New York

    Muir,
    Be ready for the onside kicks. Didn’t BA catch your front line sleeping last time?

  • AMAT 73

    BAHS,
    I thik you’re right on in reference to AMAT elite . Not the way to rep AMAT. On your reference to Stang Fan I think you are a little off base. As far as I have seen he has always been a class act and one to admit one way or the other the truth about Muir . Maybe I missed a post by him but he is ok in my book and not a clown at all.

  • The Stang Fan

    Amat 73,

    I think he was labeling the other guy a clown and telling the “Stang faithful” to ignore him….but if not, hell, I’ve been called worse! Lol!

    New York,

    I remember that! I believe that was in the late 90s and BA converted like 3 onsides in a row. Damn…

    BAHS,

    Tons of class my friend! And this comes from someone who hasn’t always displayed it. Can’t wait to go to Keifer!

    Muir=small school?,

    Yes, like many others our population has taken a hit….probably more so than other schools. The population of the schools in our league ranges from 2400 to 3800 and we sit at approximately 1100. I believe the average schools in the Southeast range from 1800 to 2500. That’s why I’d argue that “pound for pound” we are a tremendously competitive school in football.

  • History

    Amat had four onside kicks and recovered them all. Muir was loaded that year. They had Sultan Mccullough(SC), Anthony Kelley(Washington), and Lashaun Ward(Cal) and a host of other D 1 recruits. They were also ranked higher than Amat that year. Amat had one senior signing that year to a D1AA school.

    Final score Amat 42 Muir 14.

  • BAHS

    Wait a minute guys, The “CLOWN” reference was indeed a reference to “Amat Elite”. Stang fan is alright in my book. And I have played against Muir and know what it is to play them. Nothing but respect. I hope that sets the record straight. Thanks Amat 73 for trying to shed some light on the misinterpretation.

  • Amat Elite Lancers

    I am one of the few Lancers that actually grew up in La Puente. Sorry if my blunts ways are not Amat like. I will and always have to say it the way it is, Muir were going to blow you out the water and tap into that Pasadena pipeline. As far as BAHS everyone is entitled to their opinions so don’t sweat my opinion. I’m just an old man watching my grandkids play friday night.

  • BAHS

    Amat Elite – I can definately respect your opinion it’s your delivery that I’m having a little problem with. If you look at the past threads, the Amat faithful are constantly being roasted for our unflinching loyalty, and as some call it, arrogance towards our program as it relates to the rest of the SGV. All I’m saying is that Muir is has a good program over there and they will no doubt be “UP” for playing the Lancers. I’d really hate to see the words of our own fans end up as Locker Room ammunition. But….Whatever my man, Beat your chest and bang your drum, The Lancers are comin to town regardless! We will just have to crank it up a couple of more notches come September! Go Lancers!

  • The Stang Fan

    Amat Elite Lancers,

    Awesome! I may not prefer your opinion or your posts, but I DAMN sure respect it! Especially if you really are someone’s abuelito!

    Class? Probably not. Honesty? Tons. I can appreciate that.

    History,

    Was it really 4??? Damn! More facts for the coaching argument against Muir. Especially considering all the talent that was on that team. Along with those guys you also had J. Clinkscale (So./Wisconsin), J. Samuel (Jr./Utah St.), R. Crockett (Sr./ Utah St.), E. Vaughn (Sr. /SJSU), M. Green (Sr./ Portland St.), A. Simms (Sr./SJSU) and a couple of others as well.

  • Proud Amat Alumi

    Dear Amat Elite Lancers

    Do your grandkids a favor and show a bit more class and respect when talking about Amat’s opponents. Perhaps some of your positive behavior will rub off on your grandkids. That would be a good thing wouldn’t it? There’s more to Amat football than just “slapping” opponents. Bishop Amat football is about honor, respect, and dicipline they teach the kids who play there. Remember that when you post on here and have “bishop amat” in your name, you represent more than just your grandkid’s football team….you represent the Amat Family.

    Someone from the Amat Family respects their opponents and wishes them luck and an injury free game. I encourage you to give it a try. Thank you and have a good day, sir.

  • History

    And Sultan wasn’t even the best player wearing #4 that night. Michael Wagner had his coming out party. Had like 30 carries for almost three hundred yards.

  • AMAT 73

    AMAT Elite,
    I also am a home grown Lancer.Also will be watching my grandson don the Blue and Gold this coming season. As far as your delivery BAHS is telling it like it is as far as catching all kinds of hell by posts of that nature. You might be new to the blog as I haven’t seen your post name before but there is a battle with imposters and some of the faithful adding fuel to thought process of AMAT faithful being arrogant and so forth. Just a thought, but anyways we might know each other seeing as you are an old man like myself from La Puente. Are you anywhere near the class of 73.

  • Amat Elite

    Amat 73 I graduated in 1967 on the 10 year anniversary of Bishop Amat. I am in my 60′s but I still like to ruffle some feathers. Amat 73 I have changed my name to what you called me. Amat Elite.

  • AMAT 73

    AMAT Elite,
    I bow to the power. Great to have you aboard. I know you saw some great football in your day . Well enjoy the upcoming season and good luck and a safe season to your grandson . GO BLUE.

  • BAHS

    Amat Elite – What year is your grandson and do you know what level (frosh – Var) he will be playing on? No need for names or info that is too specific. Eitherway, I wish you and your grandson a great upcoming season!

  • joe Amat

    Amat 73,

    I disagree a bit with acquiescing to Amat Elite’s take on the Muir game just because he’s “home grown” and one of the Family. Amat Elite, don’t take offense and I understand where you’re coming from. Numbers are definitely in your favor in regards to our history vs Muir. However, I prefer to take the same tact the coaches may take when preparing for a team on our schedule.

    You didn’t make it quite clear if you played back in the day or were a spectator, but if you played – you know the deal. If you were a fan, here’s the drill. You can be darn sure that Cantwell, Marinovich, or McLauglin made certain that the team KNEW they were in for a battle and they better bring their A+ game because that’s what they were going to get from every opponent. Even if the coaches *thought* they could blow out the opponent (and there were many) that’s not what they *told* the players. And that’s certainly not how the teams practiced.

    I’d prefer that we were an extension of that which actually helps players rather than hinders them. I think of Mike Leach, formerly of Texas Tech, and his comments about what the “fat little girlfriends” of the players are telling them…you’re so good….it’s going to be easy… a blowout, ect. The more kids hear that, no matter how often coaches try to tell them otherwise, they might start to believe that – even for a split second. And THAT split second just might be the difference between recovering that onsides kick or getting beat deep on the final play of the game.

    We don’t put anyone on the schedule that “couldn’t” somehow beat us – otherwise, why play? We all need to think that way and impress the importance of *today’s* effort by every kid… otherwise we’re the equivalent of the “fat, little girlfriend”

  • AMAT 73

    Joe AMAT,
    What happened to you . Did you lose some status somewhere . Small J in Joe . Did Hags take the capital away and you have to earn it back . I hear what you are saying and it seems a few others reponded to the post . I believe AMAT Elite got the message and thinking about it he is probably closer to you then me as far as years at AMAT. Either way I do hope you get that capital J back . You have surely earned it in my book. :)

  • joe Amat

    Yeah 73,

    I’ve been slackin’. Haven’t posted enough to use my “capital J” !:?)
    I’ll get it back soon.

    Since I haven’t weighed in since the Garfield move, I do like the strategy behind our scheduling. We’ve made the statement (again) in the SGV and moving to surrounding areas is smart. Replacing St Paul, Diamond Ranch and West Covina with Garfield, Muir and Cathedral is a push… and maybe even a step up. I’m excited to go against Muir again and with them a year older they certainly will be even better than the team that gave CO a scare. Unfortunate that St Bonnies got releagued so the rematch won’t take place as we both wanted. It will be interesting to see who the last team we fill the schedule with in Week 5 or 9.

    It will be fun, as always

  • AMAT 73

    Joe,
    I am really looking forward to the Cathedral and Garfield games as I have a few cousins who attended both schools. Great games along with pregame parties. Makes all the sense in the world to get to those surrounding areas . Solid talent that could be a plus to AMAT . Who knows maybe we see Schurr in the future even though we do draw from that area now .

  • joe Amat

    I think the next strategic games to schedule are Chino Hills or Colony. We need to make some inroads and get that area back. Or go back to Rancho Cucamonga – although they didn’t want to renew after the last sweep and with Mullvehill’s return I don’t see that happening. And we both feel St Paul needs to be a yearly matchup – let’s hope they right the ship so it’s worthwhile again.

  • Chuck Connors was “branded” with lower case too…lol

    Joey, I couldn’t use lower case if they forced me to…lol!

    Nice to see I’m right once again in spite of taking so much grief every time I break it down for those that talk the talk but never walked the walk.

    Now who was it that suggested SGV teams should schedule Cathedral, Serra and Salesian? Man the grief I took for that alone should earn me a medal or a rubber room.

    Well I haven’t been wrong in a while as long as you don’t count my Spartans takes against Amat…hey sometimes you try to make believers out of jacket wearers.

    BTW what did you think of the job Gano did at Damien? The team ran hot and cold but overall I thought the coaches were a great bunch of guys. What’s your take seeing as you guys finally got a taste of Gano, after all these years!

    Joey also interested to hear your opinion on the LA situation. I know it’s not your thing to get into other schools politics (wink, wink) but who would be on your short list.

    BTW I also said it a few years ago that Hagerty’s “seedings” would be the plan and he’s really doing a masterful job. I also reacke dmy brain thinking about the next “seeding” and in typical fashion you showed me the way with Colony and CVhino Hills but while I like Colony I think La Habra might be more fruitful in the long run than Chino Hills who enjoys just enough success to keep their players…but you never know.

    Still think Cathedral and Garfield are gold mines for you guys.

    Last question Joey…what does “acquiesce” mean?
    :-)

  • YOU WERE WRONG ON THIS

    But you were wrong on retiring from the blog . Posts of this nature , beating you own drum is the reason for you grief you catch on the blog. It’s a good thing Hagerty listened to you and scheduled those games and is following your plan. Maybe you should interview for the Los Altos job. You seem to have all the right answers and the coaching resume to do well.

  • My “nuts” are find..no need to rub them

    You think Hagery reads the blog. Who’s stupid now? Making a suggestion or an observation and it coming to fruition says what to you? Isn’t the blog so much better without drive by artists? I think it is. Now that you’ve thrown your hat in the ring doesn’t it seem guys like you were always the problem, seeing as the blog has functioned pretty well without the dckface, The TEH, Kind Stud (or was it King Stud), joemama ect ect ect ect ect ect ect ect ect ect comments. Wait is dckface an acceptable term to use on a blog? Must be I’ve read it over 100 times and no one has stopped it’s use? Well they do when “I” write it, that’s why I misspell dickface so it doesnt get deleted…wait than how does the “other guy…oh nevermnd, lol.. Understand the difference between making an observation, making a suggestion and starting trouble, The last being “your” job. Now in all your time here have you seen anyone get the last laugh yet? randy’s a friend and a person who I text with and have seen games with actually so who’s the bad guy here? Wasn’t “I” the bain of his existence at one time? Wasn’t “I” going to be put in my place? How wrong was that whole drama yet I let it run it’s course. Me who’s outlasted all my detractors and a few coaches (lol) or “you” or is that “YOUS” who seem hell bent on putting me in my place, many have tried my friend, so get in line. How about a Norm’s T-Bone Steak and Eggs Breakfast on my dime to get it off your chest and spare Aram’s new blog the drive by drama? Either that or start up with the drive by comments once again and ruin yet another year or two “trying to one up” the bain of “your” existence. Guys like you never learn. Better yet point out where exactly you disagree with my comments but keep the negative personal drama drive by comments where you left your anonymous nuts, under your bed. I’ve had to deal with gutless guys like you all my life, and have the scars to prove it. Why? I’ll never know but I’ve got all my teeth, sleep well at night, don’t have to look over my shoulder and get to watch games from the sideline of about 10 high schools if I ask. So I guess everyone’s been “duped” but you! STOP TEH PRESSES!!!This past month one of my sideline friends asked me where I’d be in the “big game” and I said what I always say…”I’m loyal to my friends. Put me on teh Guest List”.” So is it that I enjoy my life, my friends, my kids, their accomplishments, my past, my present and hopefully a long future…or that “you” don’t? It’s gotta be one or the other my friend…one or the other. Hate is a sign of weakness and envy is the fuel of the wicked minded. Enjoy “your” kids, your life and your day …and if you happen to mention it on the blog I’ll be the first to say, “Good for you!…awesome!” Brother find some peace in your life and get off my back…it’s a bit overdone by now don’t you think? BTW did you know Salesian won another CIF Championship? OUCH !!! lol

  • how funny is that

    And all this coming from the greatest drive by artist of all time.
    Damien Dad,Sparta,and so on and so on. Fess up and just go by one name or are you ashamed . Now answer this since you made the big statement of retirement from the blog why did you come back ?

  • just sayin’

    in all fairness – “IN THE HUDDLE” is a completely different blog than “Fred J. Robledo on Prep Sports”. So technically…

  • Former Coach

    To all of you Amat fans. Coach Hagerty is actually recruiting by scheduling these schools, i.e… Cathedral,Garfield and Muir, without having to ask a kid come on down to the Big BA and play football. How many kids on last years freshmen team were from the Pasadena area and are potentially great players. The schools he`s playing have players that are tough, fast, strong and smart and would do great at BA. Next year he should continue the recruiting by scheduling schools such as Colony, Chino Hills, and Upland and so he gets kids from Ontario, Chino and Upland, without having to send his secret recruiters out to ask these kids to come to BA. ALong with being a good coach and a pretty decent person, he has a good idea of what he needs to do to get the job done at BA. Gano was very open with his recruiting although successful with Championships, but he is known for the recruiting and not so much for being a good coach.

    GOOD LUCK IN 2010 BA FOOTBALL.

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  • (*) hope that helps …

    If a “drive by artists” greatest tool is anomynity how can I be a drive by artist? Doesn’t a drive by artist randomly pick his targets to confuse everyone? And doesn’t a drive by artist by definition “randomly” attack anyone without cause?

    For example if I was to attack you kid…who I’ve never met and talked about his lack of heart and ability…even though I’ve never seen him play…..and then said your wife looks like a camel toed hoockie even if I’ve never laid …wait…”laid” might be the wrong word…I never “set” eyes on her…thats a drive by.

    Weeeeeeeellllllllll….you know it’s me…same long winded style and constant patting myself on my back and two…no one can say you don’t know who my “targets” have been over the years. If you haven’t met then their names are Mr. Incompetence, Mr.Pettiness, Mr. Cowardness and Mts. Vindictivenes.

    So how does that me a drive by artist, can the same be said of you? I’m sorry I didn’t catch your name. I’d say Mr. Anonymous but that one has been used many many many times before. Would it help if I put a (*) next whatever clever tag line I use? BTW the “left” one needs a scratch or two…ouch!

    Maybe you’re looking in the mirror seeing as I don’t know who you are, you’ve come up with a “new” screen name and you’ve never met me or know a damn thing about anything that’s gone on at Damien. BTW all is well there….haven’t you noticed NO DAMEN DRAMA IN FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL THIS YEAR!

    Funny how so many people chose a side in that Damien Drama only to have one of teh most dysfunctional football teams in Damien history

  • (*) hope that helps …

    If a “drive by artists” greatest tool is anomynity how can I be a drive by artist? Doesn’t a drive by artist randomly pick his targets to confuse everyone? And doesn’t a drive by artist by definition “randomly” attack anyone without cause?

    For example if I was to attack you kid…who I’ve never met and talked about his lack of heart and ability…even though I’ve never seen him play…..and then said your wife looks like a camel toed hoockie even if I’ve never laid …wait…”laid” might be the wrong word…I never “set” eyes on her…thats a drive by.

    Weeeeeeeellllllllll….you know it’s me…same long winded style and constant patting myself on my back and two…no one can say you don’t know who my “targets” have been over the years. If you haven’t met then their names are Mr. Incompetence, Mr.Pettiness, Mr. Cowardness and Mts. Vindictivenes.

    So how does that me a drive by artist, can the same be said of you? I’m sorry I didn’t catch your name. I’d say Mr. Anonymous but that one has been used many many many times before. Would it help if I put a (*) next whatever clever tag line I use? BTW the “left” one needs a scratch or two…ouch!

    Maybe you’re looking in the mirror seeing as I don’t know who you are, you’ve come up with a “new” screen name and you’ve never met me or know a damn thing about anything that’s gone on at Damien. BTW all is well there….haven’t you noticed NO DAMEN DRAMA IN FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL THIS YEAR!

    Funny how so many people chose a side in that Damien Drama only to have one of teh most dysfunctional football teams in Damien history

  • (*) hope that helps …

    If a “drive by artists” greatest tool is anomynity how can I be a drive by artist? Doesn’t a drive by artist randomly pick his targets to confuse everyone? And doesn’t a drive by artist by definition “randomly” attack anyone without cause?

    For example if I was to attack you kid…who I’ve never met and talked about his lack of heart and ability…even though I’ve never seen him play…..and then said your wife looks like a camel toed hoockie even if I’ve never laid …wait…”laid” might be the wrong word…I never “set” eyes on her…thats a drive by.

    Weeeeeeeellllllllll….you know it’s me…same long winded style and constant patting myself on my back and two…no one can say you don’t know who my “targets” have been over the years. If you haven’t met then their names are Mr. Incompetence, Mr.Pettiness, Mr. Cowardness and Mts. Vindictivenes.

    So how does that me a drive by artist, can the same be said of you? I’m sorry I didn’t catch your name. I’d say Mr. Anonymous but that one has been used many many many times before. Would it help if I put a (*) next whatever clever tag line I use? BTW the “left” one needs a scratch or two…ouch!

    Maybe you’re looking in the mirror seeing as I don’t know who you are, you’ve come up with a “new” screen name and you’ve never met me or know a damn thing about anything that’s gone on at Damien. BTW all is well there….haven’t you noticed NO DAMEN DRAMA IN FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL THIS YEAR!

    Funny how so many people chose a side in that Damien Drama only to have one of teh most dysfunctional football teams in Damien history

  • Dena Love

    could it be that all Bishop Amat fans have a long lasting hate of Pasadena teams? The Blair Vikings with James MAC, Kermit Washington and Eugene Jones took a title from Amat and the the great Pat Hayden & JJ Mckay. The last play in the 89 game when Vince Milton took the ball away from Sam Wilford and went down the sideline. That was one of the best game that i have been apart of. The biggest play in the game was Lamar Colbert catch on a slant that went for 77 yard T.D. Remember Amat “we don’t rebuild we just reload”. Also thanks D-ranch and Amat for playing us seeing that everybody eles in the ESGV is scare to play us! Yea your big bad [Charter oaks] won’t play us! after last year game they won’t even answer are calls for a game but, your a CHAMP? More like CHUMPS!!!!! STANG 4LIFE11

  • BAHS

    That’s right D-Love, Amat and Muir back at it again. How’s the team look for next year? Since this is the only thing close to an Amat thread on this “Football” blog, anybody know when 7 on 7′s start? Also, does anyone no “For Sure” when WG is eligible to play? Are there any other candidates for QB at Amat right now, other than T.P and R.R? Who is this transfer from Los Altos that is supposed to be coming to Amat? Supposed to be a 6′ 200 pounder? I think the thread said he was a TE. Who were the JV backs last year and will they be ready to make an impression this year or is J.A. going to be it? I know there were some good Fresh. backs last year too. Any Amat football guys out there or is it waaaayyyy to early????

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