Hagerty updates Amat QB situation and transfers …

Bishop Amat coach Steve Hagerty confirmed that former South Hills backup QB Brock Booth has checked in and is part of the competition for the open quarterback spot. However, Hagerty also said that the competition is six deep with Rio Ruiz, Tyler Pruszynski and three current freshmen all in the mix heading into spring.

If Hagerty had to pick a front runner, which he was reluctant to do because as he says the staff doesn’t think that way (at least not now), it would be Ruiz. He also said that there would have been a competition regardless of Booth’s checking in.

“His (Booth) arrival doesn’t mean there’s a competition,” Hagerty said. “There was a competition before he arrived. I would hope Brock is here because he likes the atmosphpere … becausehe likes what happens between 8 a.m. and 3 p.m. and Friday nights, too.

Hagerty also confirmed that former Los Altos freshman standout Sal Velasquez is now at Amat and participating in offseason workouts. He would not say whether Velasquez will make the varsity team, but that every player in spring is trying to make the varsity team.

Aram’s take:
Seems like just yesterday that Dorian Wells left Amat for South Hills and Bryce McBride turned in his golden “A” for a red LA. Funny what wins will do for a program. It’s amazing what can happen when Amat shines.

  • Good Move

    Aram,

    I’m sure you haven’t seen Sal Velasquez he isn’t even close to starting at the varsity level, way to small. Don’t get me wrong he is a very good player, this move to Bishop Amat is a good one for him.

  • Lets get the Facts straight

    Wells didn’t want to leave Amat, he was asked to leave. McBride left Amat because he didn’t want to play behind Wagner as a second stringer.

  • Bob

    This is why I think there WILL be competition for the quaterback position at Bishop Amat next football season .Alot of good things have been said about Rio Ruiz as the next Bishop Amat quaterback, BUT alot of GREAT things have been said about his future as a baseball player.If this is true that he could be a 1st round pick in the Major League draft then if he were my son I would tell him to give up football. If he get’s hurt he has TOO much to lose.It will be fun to see how it all plays out.

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    The Ruiz as a future MLB’er is a great angle. If that happens, I’m happy for him but selfishly I’m going to be sour I don’t get to cover him playing football for the Lancers. Something tells me Rudy won’t let it go down like that.

  • reality

    The reality is gonna be is what happens to those other 5 qbs that don’t start. They along with the other prima donnas that dont crack the starting lineup at their chosen school flee with big daddy to another program where they can star, they think. They will take oppurtunities from young men who have toiled in the trenches being tackling dummies and equipment carriers for years and then lose their playing time to these transfers who have no loyalty except to themselves. That is not fair coaches. Loyalty to ones players I have noticed is gone among many coaches. It’s no wonder young men who may have alot of hidden ability don’t try out any more or worse quit because their hard work is not rewarded with time on the field during the meaningful part of the game. Come on coaches, lets get some integrity back and stick with your school and build a program from within and let all these tranfers and their daddies play with each other on their gold encrusted field they have imagined for themselves.

  • Come one come ALL

    Aram says

    ” Funny what wins will do for a program” & Its amazing what can happen when amat shines”

    NO Aram!

    Whats amazing is where are these families suddenly coming away with 2,500 + to attend during this economy?
    Or have the Brock & Velasquez families saved for their son’s rainy day amat fund.

    HMMM!

    Wonder if they even paid the 60.00 just to take a test to see if they are allowed in~

  • AMAT 73

    reality,
    One thing you can say about Hags is that when he says it is a competition for the spot believe it . A lot of players have been converted to other positions when the position of their choice is filled by a more talented player . The idea of playing for the team at whatever position you fit is alive and well at AMAT with the players and coaches as well . I think you saw what happened to a local talent who transferred in and maybe it wasn’t in the cards for him at his chosen spot so he left and had to sit out the year . I for one believe these incidents are more parent driven then by the player. Also Hags did put Rio’s name in the mix as those involved with the QB competition so odds are he will be in the Blue and Gold next season .

  • CO parent

    Check out the Charter Oak’s CIF ring it has been posted on the Robledo website.

  • Big RIVER Dad

    Big Aram…only you could bring me out, answer is yes he is playing and preparing well to be the starter…Seems like everyone has named him the starter since last year. Starting with Prime Ticket, Eric S. (la times), CalHisports, your and my bro Freddie R., but the only one that matters is Hagerty…You see at Bishop, nothing is given, nothing is taken for granted, the only promises given are that if you work hard you will be rewarded somehow, everything is earned, starting in the pre-season, summer work and when practice starts…No place in the valley can offer what Amat offer’s on Friday Nights. There is the Bishop mystic that I have come to see for myself and believe. They have never been the big dog in the fight, they have only fought like the biggest. The Serra has some monsters on the other sidelines, but yet there is a guy like Juarez who is 5′ 9″ and maybe 175 going against 6’5″ 300 lb D-1 guys and our guy is making plays and winning the battles…The coaching staff is unequaled not only in the Valley but maybe in California… Rio had more than his share of great moments last year, and I’m sure he will have them again where ever he ask to play…Does he have a future in baseball, I pray that he does, but he is still in HS and want him to enjoy all that HS and Bishop has to offer…To all young athletes and parents, there our some good coaches and nice programs in the Valley, but there is nothing like playing Pac-5 football and how special Friday nights are at Bishop…And the Baseball program, tell me where in the Valley do you have Pac-10 and D-1 college guys coaching your son…with more connections than AT&T…The best of both worlds…Hey, Brock and Rio will be on the sidelines together once again just like when they where little boys at LA

  • TC observer

    Big RIVER Dad[and EVERYONE else],

    The name of the school is Bishop Amat OR Amat. ‘Bishop’ is 280 miles up highway 395.

  • smallcitymc

    Good Move,

    I haven’t seen Velasquez play, but given what you have said about him, I wouldn’t bet against him playing varsity. I couldn’t get over how small Amat was last season. I thought they would get blown out because of the their size, but it just didn’t happen. Amat was putting the hurt on much bigger, and in some cases, much, much bigger teams. You had to see it to believe it.

    IMO when it comes to injuries, if the O line does its job and Amat limits the option, Rio is actually better off at the quarterback than receiver.

    Hags and crew have this program so dialed in right now it’s ridiculous.

  • MOORS!!!

    Im honestly curious and a bit confused. there is talent surpassing the limit at these private school’s and sometimes seniors with very good talent that are eligible and qualified to get a scholarship out somewhere, dont play. why is that? why would you want your son/daughter playing at a program where he/she is second, third, or maybe fourth best, but like i mentioned, qualified enough to recieve a scholarship? any college will look at any school. they dont give scholarships on team performance, they give it on individual ability.

  • Wow

    Moors

    sgvsbest not withstanding….that might just be the dumbest post I have ever read. Take care when opening your mouth – you often expose yourself to your true ignorance and stupidity

  • Coaching

    Wow,

    Why is that a stupid comment, a very good example of that is McBride that was going to be the backup at Bishop Amat a couple years back. Went to LA, got hurt so he went to Mt.Sac. but from what I heard he is going to be playing D1 ball next season. He would have never got there being a backup at Bishop Amat. I have never heard of a high school backup getting a D1 scholarship. Now I have seen players get scholarships to play other positions than the one they played in high school.

  • Really?

    That’s why you go to a school with a good education system. Amat prepares all students for the rigors of college life both social and academic.

    Amat coaches allow students to compete for playing time. And it is a true competition.

  • Coaching is #2 – now awaiting #3

    Coaching

    You have obviously never been one

    Your statement verifies your ignorance as well

  • Take it easy!

    Hey, I know the hype is that Rio will be a first rounder in Baseball and his future is in Baseball, USC has offered for Baseball, etc, etc, B U T should’nt we wait and see how this plays out. The kid is a very good baseball player. Is he a first rounder “Right Now” – No, I don’t think so. “IF” you are honest, you will agree. He definately has ALOT of potential but I don’t think that just because he is offered by SC, plays for AMAT and is posting avergae numbers he is an automatic First round draft pick. I have seen many players with talent and projections of 1st round on them end up turning down the “Pro” offer finally delivered at the end of draft day. Rio needs to keep improving and start posting better almost Phenom-like numbers (especially in the league he plays in) if we are gonna make him a first round draft pick in his Sophamore year. All that throwing of a baseball year a round can cause just as much potential for injury as football. The break from baseball probably only does the kid good, worked for my nephew. Eitherway, good luck Rio and continue to enjoy your youth, FOOTBALL and Baseball, because one day you will only be able to play one, regardless of the fact that you want to play both.

  • Crystal Ball

    Coaching,who’s to say that McBride was going to only be a back-up? That’s what the parents and player probably thought and that’s why THEY CHOSE to leave Amat. In reality, who really knows what Bryce could have done at Amat? He may have broke out when given a chance to shine in another capacity or even as a spot running back or special teams player. He left so early, who’s to say what the future at Amat may have held for him? Amat is loaded with talent for this next year. Not only the JV’s that are bumping up but the freshman class has some potential impact players too. Amat will Shine in 2010-11.

  • Enough Already

    I’m with Moors. However, I understand it’s each parent’s prerogative to send their child to a private school if they wish, so don’t bother. But why and the heck would you send your kid to a program (if the only reason to send your kid to the school is for the sports)if they’re going to be so deep on the roster, they’ll never see any respectable playing time? Who cares if they’re being coached by former D1 and/or pro players! If they don’t get an opportunity to display their talents, it won’t matter. And you can go on and argue, “Well, maybe they aren’t as good as they think and that’s why they’re 3rd, 4th or 5th string.” Or maybe it’s just their parents (fathers, more than likely) having a false sense of grandeur and believe their child is “It” and “Has skills”. I just don’t see the sense. And I’m sure it costs big $$$ to play the sport there. So the question begs- Why pay big money to be 5th or 6th on the depth chart and be a spectator on the sidelines? I agree, the talent and competition Amat faces is superior, but there are other private schools with less on the depth charts and see the same level of competition. I’d rather send my child to a school where they still see top-tier competition but not so big he/she won’t get lost in the mix. There are two kinds of athletes at big schools such as Amat, LB Poly (even though it’s public), Servite, Mater Dei, etc.; there are those who want to play for these schools and then there are those who the coaches want to come play for their schools.

    This is just my OPINION.

  • Coaching

    You guys continue to make Amat’s education program look like something special, it isn’t. Getting prepared for the next level is done in the home. The IB program is equal to or exceeds anything that you are going to get at Bishop Amat. Lets be honest here most of the parents that send their kids to Bishop Amat are concerned about their education. Most of the parents that send their kids to public school aren’t as concern or can’t afford it. So yes you are going to have a much higher percentage of rejects in the public school system. The parents that don’t have the money but do put in the effort will get similar results as a private school. Yes those percentages are going to be lower. What these kids do or don’t do has much more to do with what goes on in the home than in the classroom.

    There are some kids that will perform better in a private school system and there are others that will perform better in a public school system. Obviously if parents have the money the private school is the safer choice, but the difference isn’t as big as you would like everyone to think.

    Give the Recruiting a rest…….

    You want to address the recent transfers into Bishop Amat.

    Sal;
    Real simple in the old days you wanted to play football in Hacienda Heights you go to LA or Bishop Amat. Sal was at LA with his friends, realizing LA is going no where Bishop Amat was the next option. Sal’s Dad has ties to some of the coaches at Bishop Amat also. Communication was made with the staff before he transferred over.

    Booth;
    Booth is going to take his son where he is going to be taken care of. Booth has coached with Rio’s father so I am sure arrangements have been made. I just question the Gano offer that was on the table, but maybe because of what happened at LA Booth no longer truths Gano.

  • AMAT 73

    Coaching,
    FYI , AMAT does have an excellent IB program so you have that on top of the excellent education that is given for those who chose different . Let me clue you in on something also , if you can’t cut the mustard in the classroom you will be asked to leave because AMAT understands it is a big financial commitment for parents and they really do not want you to waste the money if your student isn’t taking advantage of that fact. Unless you have been thru or sent your child there you just don’t and can’t understand the advantages of AMAT and the great time that can be had there and get a great education at the same time. Not a recruiting speech just some insight from an Alum and a parent of Alumni and from the grandparent of a future Lancer Class of 2014. It is really a question of having the money . Some do have the money and some make the sacrifices to have the money to give your child the advantage of a solid education.

  • Coaching

    That is exactly my point, so Amat has an IB program, is Amat’s IB program better than the public schools IB program? We all should know the answer to that question, NO. That is my point; you can get just as good an education in a public school as a private school. Those AP chasses you take at Amat are no different than the ones you take at a Public school. That AP test that you take is the exact same test. Now if you son or daughter is attending La Puente High vs. Bishop Amat yes there are other factors that you would put more weight on. If it was Wilson vs. Bishop Amat the weight of those issues would be much less. Another very interesting factor when comparing Bishop Amat to a La Puente High is where you are ranked in your class, which is a factor in getting accepted at a major university. La Puente High does have its advantages along with many disadvantages.

  • SGVsBEST

    Amnot wants it so bad they let anybody in! At any cost! Can you say SC?
    .
    It took them this long to find out about the Soccer Coach?
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    Fred, now do you believe me?
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    Somebody at CIF needs to do a full investigation of the entire Amnot athletic program.
    .
    If it smells like Menudo…Its probably coming from LaPuente!!!

    Yeah!!! I couldn’t resist!

  • Aaron

    I’m sure what makes Amat great is that they have great teachers all around. I was lucky enough to attend Bonita which like a few other High Schools resting against the foothills ranks pretty high throughout the country. That has to do with the community we live in. I had amazing teachers at Bonita that taught me so much about life and the subjects they were teaching. The AP program is trememndous, we don’t have an IB program…most schools with an IB program in Southern California at least use it to supplement their AP program. If you can get great teachers, honestly it doesn’t matter what special academic program there is they’ll help raise the bar and teach the students well.

  • Coaching

    Aaron,

    When people like you make a comment like what you did about the IB program, it just shows how stupid you are. The IB program is never used to supplement the AP program, at any school. Only the elite students can even get into the program. Just about any student can take an AP class. As an example does anyone out there know of any football players that are in the IB program?

  • Genius is Genius and IB Kids are IB Kids. But what about regular Joe?

    Coaching

    You choose to focus on IB and AP programs but I’m going to focus on the “regular” student which makes up the vast majority of any high school…

    Every student that graduates from Bishop Amat automatically qualifies for the UC and Cal State systems. In other words, the graduation requirements for Bishop Amat match the prerequisites to be accepted into these universities. How do they do this? Amat dramatically limits the amount of electives chosen by the student/parents. Kids at public schools get over twice the amount of elective courses. That’s a lot of home economics and underwater basketweaving if you know what I mean. Unfortunately, these do not get you into UCLA. It’s funny because Amat students often complain about the lack of electives in comparison to their friend’s or family member’s public school. Would we expect any less from a 16 year kid? LOL! Bishop Amat’s goal is not to make your kid’s academic career easier…It’s goal is to get your kid into college and to be successful at that level.

    But enough with academics. I have a video for you! This is what it looks like when your football team beats the #4 team in the ENTIRE COUNTRY in front of about 7,000 fans at Keifer Stadium:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44JMjaKEasE

    Awesome isn’t it? So what school do you support and what makes it so special? You seem to have a certain animosity toward Bishop Amat so you must come from a better academic and football school so please enlighten us….

  • Aaron

    Actually I find it pretty bad that you had to come me stupid. That’s fine you can think that. But I will tell you, I know of more than a few High Schools that have one or two IB classes and do not have a full fledged IB program. My Cousin who went to school at Ingraham High School in Seattle, well she was in their IB program. She got the diploma and entered college as a sophomore…and now she’s in her second semester of a full year abroad program. So I know what a full IB program does for a student.

    How many of Amat’s students are in the IB program?

  • Coaching

    Genius is Genius and IB Kids are IB Kids. But what about regular Joe?,

    You are an idiot, what you should say is the kids are required to take the college prep program which is an option at a public school, so what. You comment that they meet the prerequisites to be accepted into a UC and Cal State systems that is incorrect, they meet one of the requirements. What about GPA, SAT scores, etc.

    The reality of it is in theory your son or daughter can take the same classes at La Puente High School with the same results and the only difference being ranked much higher in his or her graduating class and get admitted into a major university, where as attending Bishop Amat be declined. This does happen I am aware of a parent that transferred his child to a La Puente so his child would be ranked one of the top graduating students for that exact reason.

  • Hey Stupid!

    Coaching…you were asked a question…

    “So what school do you support and what makes it so special? You seem to have a certain animosity toward Bishop Amat so you must come from a better academic and football school so please enlighten us….”

    We are waiting…

  • AMAT 73

    Coaching,
    Let me first start off by say what I said in my first post . Unless you have been thru AMAT either as a student or parent of a student you just don’t know the advantages and the great atmosphere at the school. AMAT is not for everyone and evidently by your posts it’s not for you either. I only mentioned the IB program because it seemed you did not know AMAT had an IB program. I believe your aurgument is that you can get just as good of an education at a public school as you can at AMAT . Then you go on to add maybe if they attend LP it would put more weight on it but if they went to Wilson it would less weight on certain factors .None the less by your statement are you saying they do not measure up to AMAT . Your writting that statement shows not all public schools are equal and the proof in that is why did your friend tansfer their child into LP instead of say Wilson or Rowland or even Walnut if you can get just as good of an education as at AMAT in a public school. Believe me I realize a good education can be had at a public school and if could not have afforded AMAT for my children I would have looked into Walnut,Wilson , and a few others and we both know why , no need to hide that fact . I really can’t figure out why you are attacking the value of an AMAT education in the first place. In term that is used quite often on this blog ” YOU JUST DON’T GET IT ” Maybe if you had experienced it you would but outside looking in you really have no leg to stand on. Now like someone else said you want to talk football SINCE THIS IS A 24/7 FOOTBALL BLOG then bring it on . By the way what school did you attend because you know where I went and will say it with great pride I am a LANCER and a proud member of THE AMAT FAMILY. If you choose not let us know I truely understand .

  • Check out the Big Brain on Brad….

    Hey education geeks….take this boring ass pissing contest to another thread, you’re putting the VALLEY to sleep. I could give a rat’s azz how much any of you know about the public vs private school systems. TAKE IT ELSEWHERE-THIS IS A FOOTBALL THREAD!!!!!! Lets get back to the topic at hand FOOTBALL!!!!!!

  • SGVsBest

    Los Angeles Times April 14, 2010:

    Bishop Amat teacher suspended after allegation of ‘inappropriate conduct’ with girl!
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    The girls’ Soccer COACH at the La Puente campus is put on leave after an LAPD detective interviews him about an alleged relationship with a student at another school several years ago.
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    THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SO PROUD OF? Is this the education you so highly speak of?
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    C’mon…Practice…Pra…Pra…Practice?
    .

  • You’re not fooling anyone Coaching…

    You guys want to know why Coaching is so Anti-Amat?
    Don’t fall for his academic this and that B.S. This is about FOOTBALL!

    This is what Coaching HATES:

    This is his motivation:

    This is AMAT football!:

    http://www.vimeo.com/8585794

    Mighty Are The Men That Wear The Blue And Gold!

  • Coaching

    What is so interesting about your comments about me is how far off you are. I actually feel that Bishop Amat has a great football program the best coaching staff in the valley, not even close. What gets me going is all the crap talking from all you BA supporters. Espically Amat 73 and Joe Amat, they get real old. So I have some fun pushing your buttons.

  • Coaching

    By the way what is going on with that accused child molester you guys call a coach?

  • Coaching

    By the way I personally know Booth there is no way he transferred to Bishop Amat to compete openly for the starting QB job? Don’t forget Ruiz and Booth are good friends and have coached together in the past, under Gano. Also if Booth was offered the starting job at Damien by Gano, why would he opt. out of that to compete at Bishop Amat? I understand that Hagerty is going to stick to his version, but no way is it going to play out that way. Im calling it right now; the QB spot is Booths to lose, nothing else makes any sense.

  • Learning environment

    Coaching,

    Right now these are allegations so anything else printed is slander and by allowing those posts Aram and the Tribune are condoning it. I would think after two misteps in a week,Aram, you would get it right the third time.

    All schools have a transgression or too. What about the LP teacher who had a gun in his classroom last year. OR the Wilson student who threatened to kill his teachers last year. OR the Los Altos student who was beaten senseless in the gynm bathroom and the other student who brought a gun to school. I thought you were talking about the child Molestor from Bonita high that was on “to catch a Predator”. What about the Yearbook advisor from CO who allowed the racist names to be printed. OR that Covina district student who was run over by a parent and student.

    Hagerty said it best when he said he hoped the transfers choose Bishop Amat more for what goes on from 8-3 at school than anything else. It’s a great learning environment and I can’t wait for my children to go.

  • ALL FROM THE SAME MOLD

    Coaching,
    Now you come out with Amat has a great program and coaches . After you get told on your battle of the Amat education vs public education you comeback with that . Then you state you like pushing someones buttons. Typical loser comeback when you know you lost the battle like the many that have tried but failed . The main factor of all you twisted haters of Amat is that when asked to print who you really support either you avoid the question or you cop out with I support the whole SGV except Amat . Just say you are embarrassed or have no pride in the school you attended or just maybe they suck in football or have been trounced by Amat at one time but at least have the stones to admit it instead of the weak azz post on the soccer coach or trying to change the subject by posting your feelings on the Booth transfer. Coaching you are just another sad pathetic envious hater of Amat and nothing else. Just think if there was no Amat how empty your sad life would be .

  • WHO?

    who is Sal velasquez, what position does he play?

  • Coaching

    No, I never said that Bishop Amat has the best education program in the area, I said it had the best football program in the area, big difference. There are many schools I would put up there as far as education. My comments about education are my opinion just like you have yours. On that point if education was my major objectiive for my child Bishop Amat would not be on the top of my list.

  • ????

    Sal Velasquez is a freshmen transfer from LA. Good size kid, with slow feet. He may see varsity junior or senior year, depending on growth. His dad is a good size guy, so maybe.

  • Coaching

    What’s wrong with you guys over at Bishop Amat can’t take the good with the bad. I beat you are crying to Aram right now to take that comment off. I asked the status of your ACCUSED child molester coach, I didn’t even mention he was a teacher at Bishop Amat.

  • Just answer the question dude…

    OK Coaching…

    It’s obvious you hate Bishop Amat and that’s ok. BA isn’t for everyone. But you have been asked several times which school is better and you have dodged the question so I’ll ask again…

    Which San Gabriel Valley public school offers a better educational and athletic environment than BA? Which school do you support and what makes it so special?

  • Coaching

    The best public school in the area is Walnut, for an education. Other quality schools are Rowland and Wilson. All three of those schools do not have a quality football program. I would have to say the best public football/education program in the area is San Dimas. The best private football/education program in the area would be Bishop Amat. Yes Bishop Amat would be the best education/football program in the area. My argument all along has been that you can get just as good an education at some of these public schools as Bishop Amat, in some cases better.

  • What about other sports?

    Bishop Amat would be the best education and sports school period.

    Besides Football, Bishop Amat also excels in Baseball,Softball, Wrestling, Women’s soccer and Women’s Basketball.

    BA is a very special place to be. It’s unfortunate that about 200 applicants are denied acceptance into the school every year. I wish we could take everyone.

  • Academic Atmosphere

    Walnut and San Dimas have good academic programs. Now take every college prep student from these two schools and combine them with the college prep students from Rowland and Wilson.

    Next, combine the above students into one school. This is what Bishop Amat is. The entire school is college prep…not just a handful of students.

  • Coaching

    Academic Atmosphere,

    I am really confused, it sound like you just agreed with me.

  • Academic Atmosphere

    Not really Coaching, Bishop Amat is the best high school in both academics and athletics in the San Gabriel Valley. You’re an obvious Amat hater and when you were cornered, you wussed out by mentioning BA’s volleyball coach. I feel sad for you that you felt a need to go to this type of extreme in an attempt to prove your worth. Regrettably, because you went to that extreme, you proved yourself vulnerable and basically a chump clawing at one incident in an attempt to undermine what Bishop Amat has been doing for San Gabriel Valley families for the past 30 years.

    If you have not noticed, you stand alone in your endeavors… I wonder why?

    Way to represent your public education…Tonight I will pray for you. It’s quite clear you need God in your life.

  • Academic Atmosphere

    Not really Coaching, Bishop Amat is the best high school in both academics and athletics in the San Gabriel Valley. You’re an obvious Amat hater and when you were cornered, you wussed out by mentioning BA’s volleyball coach. I feel sad for you that you felt a need to go to this type of extreme in an attempt to prove your worth. Regrettably, because you went to that extreme, you proved yourself vulnerable and basically a chump clawing at one incident in an attempt to undermine what Bishop Amat has been doing for San Gabriel Valley families for the past 30 years.

    If you have not noticed, you stand alone in your endeavors… I wonder why?

    Way to represent your public education…Tonight I will pray for you. It’s quite clear you need God in your life.

  • Academic Atmosphere

    correction….soccer coach.

  • Coaching

    Once again I am confused by your reply, I give you my honest opinion, very positive toward Bishop Amat. You reply not realizing that you just agreed with my original argument. Now I need god in my life.

    Sorry but you are on this thread talking about how great the education and athletics are at Amat while on another thread one of your teachers/coaches is being investigated by LAPD for molesting a student.

    Maybe you should pray for that Bishop Amat teacher, he needs your help more than me.

  • JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION COACHING

    Coaching,
    Here it is in black and white and plain English for you.
    During the upcoming football season and in the past football seasons what team do you back week after week . Is it your Alma Mater or are you just a bandwagon follower as are most of the bashers including your poster boy sgvsworst .

  • JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION COACHING

    Coaching,
    Here it is in black and white and plain English for you.
    During the upcoming football season and in the past football seasons what team do you back week after week . Is it your Alma Mater or are you just a bandwagon follower as are most of the bashers including your poster boy sgvsworst .

  • JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION COACHING

    Coaching,
    Here it is in black and white and plain English for you.
    During the upcoming football season and in the past football seasons what team do you back week after week . Is it your Alma Mater or are you just a bandwagon follower as are most of the bashers including your poster boy sgvsworst .

  • JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION COACHING

    Coaching,
    Here it is in black and white and plain English for you.
    During the upcoming football season and in the past football seasons what team do you back week after week . Is it your Alma Mater or are you just a bandwagon follower as are most of the bashers including your poster boy sgvsworst .

  • JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION COACHING

    Coaching,
    Here it is in black and white and plain English for you.
    During the upcoming football season and in the past football seasons what team do you back week after week . Is it your Alma Mater or are you just a bandwagon follower as are most of the bashers including your poster boy and leader of the hate Amat pack sgvsworst . Seems like a simple request which for some reason you dance around giving a simple answer. Come on coaching give yourself some credibility and answer or do want to continue to be seen as just another hating moron who has nothing positive to add to the blog and only brings his pathetic feelings of hate on something you really have no ldea of what you speak . You really didn’t have to stoop so low as to bring up the soccer coach did you . Maybe it was just your instinct which is somewhat like a cornered rat with no way out.

  • Joe Amat

    “Coaching”(and I’m not quite sure what that refers to),

    If you were objective what you really would be doing is praising Amat for how they are handling the Gonzalez situation and taking every measure possible to provide a safe environment for the students.

    What you have is a very successful soccer coach recently hired that has had a glowing reputation and no sign of any wrongdoing in the past. There is no hint of absolutely anything happening on Amat’s watch – but as soon as there was an inkling of suspicion that something may have occurred *at some point in the past*- Amat took action immediately. Not when there was an *investigation*… not when there was any *interrogation*… but at the initial *inquiry*. They should be commended for that – not vilified.

    As to the academic topic, I’m sure even you can realize that “a rising tide lifts all boats” As you readily admit there is greater depth in quality students at Bishop Amat and any student surrounding themselves with other high achieving students benefits form that competition and environment. The number of students trying to get into AP/IB courses increases that competitiveness and ensures greater achievement across the board in each class. Now that great student you speak of in an AP/IB class is surrounded by 25 other students just like him. That in itself inspires students to greater achievement.

    Now “Coaching” – what “crap talking” were you speaking of that gets old?

  • Coaching

    Joe Joe Joe what are you guys crying about. You need to take the good with the bad. This is a common issue within the private school institute. I would be shocked if this was the only one you had over at Bishop Amat.

    How they are handling it, the LAPD is investigating one of your teachers of child molestation at another school and what we should praise Bishop Amat for suspending him. O yea sorry they sent letters home in an attempt to find out if he had molested girls at Bishop Amat also. The only thing; your monsignor is worry about is a law suit.

    Number one priority to the monsignor is money. I have dealt with him in the past, giving back to the community isnt very high on is priority list. A matter a fact Hagerty was involved in these meetings. Hagerty came out of the meeting with the same impression as I did. All the monsignor was worried about was getting sued and how much money would Bishop Amat would make.

  • So. Hills Fan

    You got to be kidding Bishop Amat is the best Academics in the SGV. I know alot of kids that are going there and they all say it’s a Big Joke about Academics. Bishop Amat now is like a Public school with a Private title. Parents,don’t waste You’re hard earned money by sending You’re sons and Daughters to that School. They are winning because they have lowerd there standards and anybody is getting in now.

  • BA Admissions

    South Hills fan

    First of all, you are embarrassing your school by resorting to these measures.

    Second, check this out…It’s from the BA Admissions website:

    For 2008-2009, 540 students submitted applications; 495 took the entrance exam. We accepted approximately 400 ninth grade students for 2009-2010.

    What criteria are used to choose a Bishop Amat Freshman?

    1.Grades and standardized test scores from the 7th and 8th grades.

    2.Recommendation from elementary or middle school teacher/counselor

    3.Parish Recommendation (if applicable)

    4. Entrance Exam scores

    5. Family relationship with the school is also given consideration.

    CONCLUSION:

    Your post was childish and absolutely absurd. If you still believe that Bishop Amat “lowerd there standards and anybody is getting in now,” try telling that to the 95 kids that were unfortunately denied….

  • Busted?

    Anyone want to bet me that Coaching is COChargerfan???

  • confused…

    not sure what the mention of sal is all about… i believe tight end is his position… that position is taken by all league defense player to watch gener and right behind him is freshman carrillo.. who is quick and has size for that position…

  • reality

    if these kids came to amat for another reason than what happens between 8-3 they are in for a rude awaking… they will be quickly looking for another school, you know thats not how amat works… you either love every part of it or u transfer out…

  • amat vs public

    who are u trying to fool? urself? we all know that amat is in no way the same as public… come on that joke for you to say that… i happen to work at a public High school and would never send my child to one…. i dont think i need to mention the reasons why… just take the time to truly compare..

  • Here Comes JOE…..

    I see another 1000 word essay why Bishop Amat is superior to any public school, that no one is going to read. All I have to say is every parent with a daughter and plan on playing sports better question if Bishop Amat is worth the risk.

  • Coaching

    Busted,

    Why don’t you ask Aram, he can validate by IP number, so don’t take that beat, not a good one.

  • just sayin’

    Here comes JOE – not even close – 235 words. And someone must have read it – they responded. Now that I think of it – so did you.

  • Private vs Public

    So. Hills Fan said:

    “You got to be kidding Bishop Amat is the best Academics in the SGV. I know alot of kids that are going there and they all say it’s a Big Joke about Academics. Bishop Amat now is like a Public school with a Private title. Parents,don’t waste You’re hard earned money by sending You’re sons and Daughters to that School. They are winning because they have lowerd there standards and anybody is getting in now.”

    This is obviously written by someone with a public school education. Poor spelling is the giveaway! The lesson my friend is it’s Your and not You’re and Lowered not lowerd. How embarrassing,you got to be kidding yourself right? This is the reason why I’m sending my kid to Amat and not South Hills!

  • smallcity

    Ah, maybe it’s me, but I thought this was a football thread.

  • FootballHead

    Wow, what a gip. I read the thread title and thought COOL, so early Amat football talk-THHRRAAWWRRTTT!!!!!! You have got to be kidding me!!! What about Jay Anderson? Is he committed to football this year? He appears to be doing very well on the baseball field, just like Rio Ruiz. Is Shay the second string RB? Who else is in the ru8nning for PT at RB? Amat lost one underclassmen RB earlier this year and maybe the SH kid ends up at AMAT? Don’t count out freshman RB Daniels either? Big question mark I see is receiving corps. Granted Amat doesn’t pass all that much but it was nice to be able to complete some passes downfield last year when we needed to. Defense will be a question too, no Cazares, is the kid that got sick earlier this year gonna be able to come back? Who replaces him? What about FS if Ruiz is on the otherside of the ball? With Wells gone how’s the lock down corner? C’mon Amat Family, lets talk some football. What are your early season thoughts Oh and one last thing, NO KID BASHING PLEASE! Let’s try to keep this purely objective and not turn this into a bloodletting on HS athletes. If we get the usuall dirtballs on here trying to start siomething lets all, PLEASE, just ignore the comments. Where are you at Lancer Backers!?!?!

  • Coaching

    No this is a bishop amat thread.

    They love to throw the kitchen sink in, but don’t when we throw back.

  • Coaching….can you read????

    Coaching

    You have yet to answer the basic question asked of you……

    “Here it is in black and white and plain English for you.
    During the upcoming football season and in the past football seasons what team do you back week after week . Is it your Alma Mater or are you just a bandwagon follower as are most of the bashers including your poster boy sgvsworst”

  • Lancers02

    Well all I can comment are the freshman studs who will come back and contribute and those that transferred out. We lost fast running backs Dionza Blue, Albert “Red” Llamas, 300lb Lineman Bojorguez and big aggressive DL Jonathan Gravini. Returning are RB DJ Daniels, Safety Adam Alcantara (who I project will start as a sophomore), Big 6’2″ 270 lb Andrew Hauser and big TE Anthony Carrillo. At LB will be Andre Kirkoff, this kid is an all out stud and will be a solid 180 Lb if he hits the weights this year. Watch for these names come their Junior and Senior years.

    We should be outstanding at defense with LB’s Lacey, Bowens and Juarez returning. Gener, Rios, Shay and Acuna should also be huge factors on defense. Our DL is the big question mark losing our DL stud Kane. At offense is of course Mr. Anderson and Rio at QB and either Jalen Moore or Idilio Sanchez at FB. We are returning only 1 Offensive Lineman in big 6’4″ 280lb Christian Orduno. Hopefully, we got some big Juniors, Sophomores and Freshman stepping up to the plate. I think Hagerty has the overall talent to compete and defend the Serra League Crown.

  • Time to leave the building

    coaching-You Are Wrong Sir! Wrong!!! This IS a Football Blog, SUPPOSEDLY a 24/7 Football Blog (although I really am starting to wonder about that claim) and the TOPIC at hand is AMAT Football. This thread should be dealing with our QB situation and possible impact of newcomers/transfers!NOT your gas about the merits of our school. We “The Amat Family” know the merits and advantages of going to AMAT. That’s why we (Alumni) send our kids there. Like 73 said “either you get it or you don’t” obviously you don’t! And really, nobody cares if you send your kids there or not. As far as we are concerned, that’s your loss. Now please take your non-football related blubbering to another thread.

  • FootballHead

    Lancer02 – Is Lacey going to be able to make a come back so soon? That was a pretty serious deal. I hope he is strong enough, that would be great for the Lancers and him. Our LB crew sounds pretty solid but, I don’t know, something tells me Ruiz will not be on both sides of the ball this year. Gotta figure Tyler P and new kid Booth will have something to say about Ruiz getting the auto-nod at QB. I think passing league is gonna be tense this year. Does Shay play Defense too? Is Acuna a cornerback and can he be a lockdown corner? Where does the the sophamore alcantera fit in on defense, corner or one of the safties? Orduno is a great place to start but we are really going to need some other players to step up on the OL. Freshman class had a few Big kids on the OL and DL but you say they transferred out? Hey, don’t you think Gonzalez has the size to make a Nasty leftside tackle? That would be intresting. How was the JV DL and OL?

  • Caoching

    Actually you are all wrong. I continue to make comments about Amat, and to date you continue to reply to them. I have been on this thread for days having fun with you guys and you guys have continued to reply for days.

    The real interesting issue you have here is I am very confident that I know more about this topic than everyone of you Bishop Amat bloggers. This Booth/Rio competition or should I say arrangement has been taken care of. This QB situation was worked out way before Booth transferred over. You guys have no clue what is going on.

  • Coaching – you are a fool

    You stated…..”The real interesting issue you have here is I am very confident that I know more about this topic than everyone of you Bishop Amat bloggers. This Booth/Rio competition or should I say arrangement has been taken care of. This QB situation was worked out way before Booth transferred over. You guys have no clue what is going on”

    Please enlighten us.

    Are you in the weight room every day with the players as they workout, are you on the field two days a week for the conditioning workouts, are you involved with the coaching meetings each week, were YOU in Colorado on the clinic trip? ANy of these – where are you?

    Please enlighten us – are you involved with any of this? NO. Then shut the hell up because if you are not on the coaching staff then you have no clue as to what is going on.

    You are just another idiot – shooting off his mouth. Your mere statement that the QB situation” was worked out way before Booth transferred over” proves this point.

    Simple question – name the QB coach at Bishop Amat. If you actually know the answer to that question – which I am sure you do not – proves you have no damn idea what you are talking about.

    Go crawl back under a rock.

  • Lancers02

    FootballHead,

    There are no lock on any positions. As you know, all the players have to show up each day and work hard to earn their respective starting positions. The positions are all up for grabs and will have to be earned. There are no Prima Donnas at Amat. I think Tyler P/Booth/Rio and two to be sophomore QB’s will have to compete for their QB position. All the Frosh players I have mentioned will have an equal shot at Varsity and I believe they will all have a positive impact on the team’s overall present and future success. I forgot to mention, Wallace Gonzales, at a formidable 6’6″ how can he not play a key role on our offense at TE? He will definitely be an impact player as much as Anderson, Ruiz and Shay is on offense. We will see talent on both sides of the ball, therefore, if we stay focus and healthy, we should win games. Again the question mark is our inexperienced OL and DL, we have some young big kids that will need to shed their baby fat, gain muscle, step up and make the big blocks for Anderson and protect Rio.

    I don’t know much about our JV’s but they did struggle early on in the season but improved by the end of the season. Hopefully there are some diamonds in the rough that will stand out come this spring. My bet is there will be more big name transfers coming to Amat to take advantage of our great program, the best all around Coaching staff, the best competition in DI/PAC5 and the most exciting HS football environment that the SGV has to offer. Amat is back on track!

  • The truth be said

    you can say all you want about whos starting for Amat, but we all know how it works at Amat… it isnt about what you did in the past, its about what your doing right now and what your willing to do. good old fashion hard work, not just talent, talent will take you no where if your not willing to work and at Amat they all work…We do not tolerate drama from mommas or dads for that face, let alone from kids.. Anyone who thinks they came to amat because they are Guaranteed a spot is in for a rude awaking.. If your not willing to fight take the wins with pride and great sportmanship than amat is not the place for you and that probably explain why amat loses a lot of kids to local school who unfortunatly put up with them…

    These kids are coming to amat to have a chance to play with the only school in the area worth playing for…

  • FootballHead

    Lancer02-Absolutely agree on the having to win a spot at AMAT, nothing is a gimmie. What kind of speed does WG have? Do you think they will ask him or should I say move him to TE? Wasn’t he a wide-out at Glendora? And do you know anything definative on Lacey? I sure hope he is well enough to compete. That would mean that he “IS WELL”, and it’s good news for our football team too. Not too concerned regarding any transfer talk regarding freshman, they have to prove something on the field first. Is Amat in the Bonita passing tournament again this year?

  • Coaching

    Thats just it, you don’t know. You all are wondering if I am right, especially those parents with kids on the team now competing with the transfers. Bishop Amat tradition was never allowing senior transfers to play. Well that tradition went right out the door with Hagerty. You need to understand Hagerty and staff are doing a great job with what they have. Sorry but the talent at Bishop Amat isnt good enough to win at the D1 level and Hagerty realizes that. So now Hagerty has allowed the senior transfer, so if the transfer doesnt play then he has sent a very clear message to other players thinking of transferring. That message isnt the one he wants to send, so trust me Booth will be playing this year. Think about it why you think Gano over at LA was so successful, he guaranteed the transfers starting positions. If Hagerty doesnt do the same they wont come, real simple.

  • just sayin’

    Coaching –
    “…Sorry but the talent at Bishop Amat isnt good enough to win at the D1 level …”???
    10-2 and Serra League Champions?
    not good enough?

  • people get a clue

    sorry coaching said, but you are wrong in your thinking… We are not saying that he will not play, we are merely saying that he will have to work and work hard if he wants to play. He will have to prove that he is better than the other kids in order to earn the spot, IF he in fact starts it will be well deserved. Kids are transfering to Amat because of the POSSIBILITY of winning a D1 CIF title. They have nothing to lose. Not sure why the family chose to take their chances, but thats just it… its a chance, the only thing that may be happening is that since these two families (Ruiz and Booth) know each other maybe Rio is not going to go out for quarterback, perhaps that aggreement was made, but as for a for sure spot on the team, no way, without Rio he may be good enough… rememeber Rio has already committed to USC so maybe so decisions were made with those two families…

    BTW.. do you all really think hagerty would make that promise with a kid who was not a first string quarterback at his old school…?

  • people get a clue

    sorry coaching said, but you are wrong in your thinking… We are not saying that he will not play, we are merely saying that he will have to work and work hard if he wants to play. He will have to prove that he is better than the other kids in order to earn the spot, IF he in fact starts it will be well deserved. Kids are transfering to Amat because of the POSSIBILITY of winning a D1 CIF title. They have nothing to lose. Not sure why the family chose to take their chances, but thats just it… its a chance, the only thing that may be happening is that since these two families (Ruiz and Booth) know each other maybe Rio is not going to go out for quarterback, perhaps that aggreement was made, but as for a for sure spot on the team, no way, without Rio he may be good enough… rememeber Rio has already committed to USC so maybe so decisions were made with those two families…

    BTW.. do you all really think hagerty would make that promise with a kid who was not a first string quarterback at his old school…?

  • Coaching

    Joe,

    10-2, who did you beat in the playoffs?

    Who did you loss to in the playoffs?

    Who was in the finals in the playoffs?

    If you are content with a league title then yes you can win.

    If you are looking for a D1 title, then like I said you don’t have the talent to compete.

    Now if you think you are going to get top talent to transfer in with no guarantees, then you have no clue how it works out there in the real world.

  • FYI

    AMAT FANS,
    Brock Booth wins MVP for QBs at last weekends NUC combine.

  • Coaching C’mon

    Hey Coaching

    It is amusing that you never answer direct questions posed to you. You just banter on on some other topic with an Amat bash as the focus. You really have it bad.

    Simple – just answer the questions asked of you. Can you do tha? Can you exchange in a true fashion without bashing on people, making brash judgements with no basis in fact, and questioning the integrity of coaches/teachers with whom you have no relationship whatsoever?

    Can you? I think not?

  • Coaching..you don’t know jack

    Amat has accepted senior transfers in the past. Witherspoon 96 and Hughes 98 to name two.

  • Amat Dude

    Obviously Coaching is dodging the simple question of what school he supports. This can only mean he is very envy of Amat’s status and recent accomplishments and too embarrassed to mention the school he supports. Amat get’s too much respect from prestigious D1 schools like Mater Dei, Notre Dame, Crespi, Loyola and others…..so who cares what this Coaching/SGVworse/King Turd/DRanchhhhhh thinks, it’s really irrelevant, we have bigger fish to fry!!

  • Amat Dude

    Obviously Coaching is dodging the simple question of what school he supports. This can only mean he is very envy of Amat’s status and recent accomplishments and too embarrassed to mention the school he supports. Amat get’s too much respect from prestigious D1 schools like Mater Dei, Notre Dame, Crespi, Loyola and others…..so who cares what this Coaching/SGVworse/King Turd/DRanchhhhhh thinks, it’s really irrelevant, we have bigger fish to fry!!

  • Amat Dude

    Obviously Coaching is dodging the simple question of what school he supports. This can only mean he is very envy of Amat’s status and recent accomplishments and too embarrassed to mention the school he supports. Amat get’s too much respect from prestigious D1 schools like Mater Dei, Notre Dame, Crespi, Loyola and others…..so who cares what this Coaching/SGVworse/King Turd/DRanchhhhhh thinks, it’s really irrelevant, we have bigger fish to fry!!

  • Coaching

    First off that was a great one

    “Coaching..you don’t know jack said:
    Amat has accepted senior transfers in the past. Witherspoon 96 and Hughes 98 to name two.”

    This guy went back 12 and 14 years to fine two players, that is great. Do you guys really think he helped or hurt your case?

    Second you guys really don’t get it, the facts that I have laid out are facts. You may not like them but it’s the truth. That is the way it works in high school football, even at Amat, sorry.

    What is so great about this topic is you guys come on this thread pounding your chests “We are Amat”. I come on this thread throw a few facts at you guys and you start crying. The interesting part of this is you guys aren’t stupid, you know what I am saying makes a lot of sense, but for know some of you are in denial. What will be interesting is the fallout from these transfers. Will your coaching staff pull an LA? Look what happen to that program, with the transfers. Or will you pull a South Hills, where you are living off the transfers. The big difference between Bishop Amat and these other two programs is you guys have a great COACHING staff where as LA and SH has/had a very week COACHING staff. Your kids are well coached up, but get a few more of those 6’5″ well coached up kids instead of those 5’10″ well coached up kids how far would Amat go?

    Your coaches arent stupid, so if your kid is that 510 player you better be looking over your shoulder. By the way how tall is that other quarterback, Booth is what 63 at least?

  • Coaching

    Another Amat parent brought up a very valid point how does Amat allow a senior to transfer in and graduate being that you are required to have four years of religion to graduate from Amat. According to him Amat would never allow senior transfers in when he attended Amat. I guess Booth is going to be real busy taking four years of religion in one year. Im sure the school made an exception for the new starting quarterback. I mean why else would they have made the exception, go figure?

  • just sayin’

    Coaching – when you have wins in the past two years over Orange Lutheran, Crespi, Loyola, Notre Dame, St Bonaventure, Alemeny, Mater Dei and a play away from wins over Los Osos and Long Beach Poly wouldn’t even you say you have what it takes to compete with anybody?

  • FootballHead

    Coach-I don’t really think that Amat needed to go out and get the THIRD STRING QB at SH in order to be competitive. Now don’t get me wrong, he will get a look but IF he couldn’t crack the Line-up at SH he is no better shape here at AMAt just because he is friends with Rio’s dad! Even IF Rio didn’t play next year,the AMAT program would still roll on with the guys that are here and want to be there.And, you know what? Booth would STILL have to earn the starting spot! Tyler Pruzynski has two years of running this sytem under his belt already. Believe me despite what you may or may not have heard PT is not going to go quitetly into that good night. The AMAT FOOTBALL PROGRAM is bigger than the individual athlete that causes so many problems in these other”programs”. You’re damn right about “Us” me in particular, getting on here and pounding my chest about my program because really Mr. Coaching, you haven’t said shit. You are throwing out generalizations about how things are done over here and over there but you know what? That is not HERE- AT AMAT HERE! If you haven’t noticed, we are often under sized and over matched on paper but irregardless, we come to play with the players that want to be here, have put in the work and who have earned the right to step out on that field with their fellow team mates. That right to play under the lights as a LANCER is earned and paid in Hard work, blood, sweat, dedication to your team, to your coaches, to yourself, to the school and to the football program! If Mr. Booth is under the impression that he will step out on the field with anything less then the aforementioned then both HE and YOU are in for a schooling! Mighty Are The Men Who Wear The Blue And Gold – Fight On, Amat Lancers!!!!

  • Coaching

    Now lets start with just sayn I have already many times stated that Amat has a great program, best coaching staff in the valley. But they dont have what it takes to win that D1 title. This coaching staff realizes that, these undersized kids can only do so much, yes they are playing great ball for what they are. Coach up that 510 kid and coach up that 64 kid who is going to win the WAR, the 64 kid. Now dont start up with we got heart crap. The best example of what I am talking about is put this coaching staff with Long Beach Polys players and you have a great team.

    Now FootballHead you pound your chest, all you want but at the end of the season you are going to see the same results. The only difference is this coaching staff realizes that, and they are making the moves to make that next step. Now the loyal Amat parents arent going to have an issue with it, winning will take care of that. The issue is going to be with those kids that worked their way through the system to see a junior or senior transfer take their spot.

    Do you guys realize this Booth transfer is much bigger than anyone of you can image. Like I said Booth is a senior and you had to go back twelve years to remember the last senior transfer. All the other top programs in the area have been living off of senior transfers for years. What the real issue is going to be if this Tyler Pruzynski is going to wait around for his senior year. Then what happens when another top senior quarterback wants to transfer in next year, now this Tyler Pruzynski is going to be sitting his senior year. This kid would have been working from within the system for four years and will never play under the lights, its sad.

    Ask yourselves this question now that this coaching staff allowed Booth to transfer over his senior year, do you think next year another top valley quarterback would want to transfer over?
    Do you think this coaching staff is going to allow it?
    Where does that leave this Tyler kid his senior year?
    What is really said about this situation is the Coaching staff wants the transfer to start over the player that has been loyal to the program. The reason for this is that will send a very clear message to other players that are thinking about transferring to Amat. Now if Booth doesnt get the starting job, that will stop or at least slow down the upperclassmen transfers, something the coaching staff doesnt want to happen.

    The way this plays out is going to be real interesting. I have noticed that

    Something else for you loyal Amat fans to think about, you notice that Joe Amat and Amat 73 have stayed away from this subject. The two most knowledgeable people on Amat football and they arent talking. Even more interesting I believe it was Joe Amat that stated in the past that Amat will not take senior or junior transfers and was giving the exact reasons that I have stated. Trust me this is a much bigger issue that you guys believe

  • Coaching – Still waiting …………..

    Hey Coaching

    Still waiting for you to answer direct questions.

    Another one here for you. You state what you say is fact – can you PROVE these facts. Gives us just ONE simple piece of evidence that these facts you speak of are in fact that – facts. No one is interested in your Opinion.

    I doubt you will – but give it a shot. Remember proof – not opinion. Opinion is not fact.

  • Coaching – Still waiting …………..

    Hey Coaching

    Still waiting for you to answer direct questions.

    Another one here for you. You state what you say is fact – can you PROVE these facts. Gives us just ONE simple piece of evidence that these facts you speak of are in fact that – facts. No one is interested in your Opinion.

    I doubt you will – but give it a shot. Remember proof – not opinion. Opinion is not fact.

  • Coaching – Still waiting …………..

    Hey Coaching

    Still waiting for you to answer direct questions.

    Another one here for you. You state what you say is fact – can you PROVE these facts. Gives us just ONE simple piece of evidence that these facts you speak of are in fact that – facts. No one is interested in your Opinion.

    I doubt you will – but give it a shot. Remember proof – not opinion. Opinion is not fact.

  • But what do i know

    The QB “thing” is so complicated and simple all at the same time. The “third string” remarks are just plain stupid, and I’ll tell you why.

    My brother was a second string QB who was better than the starter but the starter couldn’t play any other position, or at least didn’t “want” to.

    After a few Varsity starts even the fans would chant his name, it made my Dad very proud. Unfortunately my brother transfered after his junior year. The team he transfered to went winless or won one game, not sure about that but they sucked!

    Long story short he lead them to a league title and were the talk of the “town” , not the Fish Bowl but Lo Angeles..the Times and Herald Examiner had stories on them and they was constant buzz about the team and their “litte QB with the cannon arm”.

    They lost in the Semis to a future Raider and Redshin Qb named Jay S.

    Moral of the story…give the kid a shot because at the QB position you never know. Just look at the “legend himself…Jerry Mac.

    Best of luck. would love to take in a practice and give my two cents. I saw Jerry Mac practice back when he was unheard of and I thought he was a great kid, a tireless worker and extremely “open” to being coached. Guess I had him all wrong when I said years ago he was the best of the QB Veri had out there. But what do I know?

  • Joe Amat

    Amat has always accepted qualified transfers. I think the previous comment stating past transfers establishes that and proves the point rather than disproves it. In the 80′s Pat Patterson came in from Chaffey. A few years back Jordan Swayden (the baseball player) transferred in after his Junior year. So it’s happened, and those are the guys you know about – not just the random students that show up. The reality is there are always open spots in the upper grades because in every school, enrollment dwindles from 9th to 12th grade.

    Also let’s remember – no one is accepting a SENIOR transfer. Booth is a Junior and still must complete his junior year, taking all requirements along the way – no “exceptions” need to be made. At the end of the school year – things might have been a little different. We also don’t know if acceptance is conditional, as it sometimes is. Booth may have to prove competence for the duration of this year and make some things up in summer school to be ready for his senior year.

    As act like you’re “in the know” about Mark and Rudy you probably also understand that Mark (and Brock) would come across very well and say whatever they need to in the interview process in order to be accepted. If you are also that “in the know” you also know that the relationship has not always quite as “rosy” and amicable as you make it seem – although the boys are good. Understand regardless of how it works out – there will be a competition and *coaches* make decisions – not Dad’s. And the only “promise” that was made is that the competition will be open, fair and performance dictates who plays – nothing else. This staff has already proven that with past QB decisions – don’t you think?

  • Coaching

    Thats great, I knew that Joe was reading all these comments. It took you 17 minutes for my comment to be posted, you to read it and respond. You really didn’t want to comment unless I called you out did you Joe.

    Just like I said Joe knows exactly what is going on. I do understand your position. This will get very interesting depending on the outcome of Booth’s transfer.

    Have Fun !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Question for Coaching

    How are Coaching and a jellyfish the same?

    They both lack backbones.

    Coaching – still waiting for your answers. But hey it’s OK……we all KNOW YOU NEVER WILL!!

  • Joe Amat

    Coaching,

    Not to disappoint you (or that you’d believe me anyway), but I wrote it about an hour before after reading your response at 11:21 and it stayed minimized on my screen while I did some actual work before I hit send.

    But it will be interesting… competition always is!

  • FootballHead

    Coaching-my point is…I don’t care how big(physically) this kid is he still has to produce, This is not a big deal to the valid underclassmen because they will all be given a shot to win the positions they have been busting their butts to play. You make it sound like this guy is going to be given a starting spot just because he shows up? And I truely dont believe that it is up to Rio where he plays. If i’m not mistaken Coach Hagerty will have the final say on where Ruiz will best help the team. I just don’t have much faith in your “in the know” insider tips. I also know that Coach Hagerty would never, and I mmean NEVER, promise some kid a position or a starting spot on an AMAT football team. So you go ahead and roll with your “watch out the sky is gonna start falling at Amat” malarkey and I guess we will just have to wait for the FLOOD of Jr. and Sr. transfers that AMAT always gets(ya right?)to come in and ruin the harmony on the Bishop Amat gridiron. You claim to know so much about what goes on in the AMAT “war-room” yet, by your comments it’s obvious that you know nothing about AMAT football, and more importantly, zero about the integrity of our Coach. Just my humble opinion coach.
    But what do I know-The kid was referred to as the Third Sting QB earlier on. I just went with it. If the reality was then it is what it is…eitherway, I truely doubt that any coaches from Amat went to this kid and “asked” or otherwise influenced him to come over to AMAt, which was my point, The third string QB thing was just a jab at the ridiculous blogger claiming that we (Amat) promised this kid a spot. For all I know the kid might be golden and then Hey, good for us!

  • In N Out Blues

    Once again…a Bishop Amat topic gets over 100 comments. It’s no wonder they get an In n Out Burger truck at their home games…

    Double Doubles and Football???

    If I had a kid, I know where he’d be transferring to…LOL!

  • Coaching

    I guess you guys really don’t get it. I will keep it real simple.

    The QB spot is Booth’s spot to lose. I never guaranteed that Booth is going to start. If this Tyler kid is way better than Booth then he will get the spot. If it is close either way Booth will be the starting QB at Bishop Amat.

    You guys really don’t have a clue what is going on.

    O yea by the way Joe Amat went back all most forty 40 years and added two more names. So your right it does happen, four times in forty years.

    Yea Joe I believe you, no comments for three days, I call you out 17 minutes latter you respond but you really wrote it 30 minutes before I called you out.

  • Coaching – can you answer the questions

    Coaching

    This is easy

    Can you answer the questions – Yes or No

  • AMAT!!!

    you all are crazy.. hagerty would NEVER make any promise to any kid for any reason.. be a great dedicated hard working football player and you will play… plain and simple, no need to explain anything else. If the kid is starting, you better believe he deserves to be playing….

  • back trackin’

    So now you say “. I never guaranteed that Booth is going to start. If this Tyler kid is way better than Booth then he will get the spot. If it is close either way Booth will be the starting QB at Bishop Amat.”

    But before you said,

    “Now if you think you are going to get top talent to transfer in with no guarantees, then you have no clue how it works out there in the real world.”
    April 20, 2010 5:47 PM

    why you think Gano over at LA was so successful, he guaranteed the transfers starting positions. If Hagerty doesnt do the same they wont come, real simple.
    April 20, 2010 4:33 PM

    who doesn’t have a clue? and what “facts” have you laid out?

  • Don’t attack a blogger by attacking a kid or his parents is all I’m saying

    FootballHead, I see you addressed the “third string” comment. Good for you. Alow me to say it was “first” used as a derogatory comment to Booth, directly or indirectly and you “went with it”. Let’s all try and resist that kind of temptation in the future.

    As far as this Booth kid I did find out a few things, he has a cannon for an arm, is 6’3″ legit and about 215 lbs. He did win a combine QB MVP ahd appears to have won some over with his leadership skills in moving a team down the field.

    This might go to my point from years ago that Bogan is over rated. I’ve seen his practices and seen his teams win twice and lose twice. All four games left me thinking, “He’s top flight?” No offense to the man as I’ve never met him but strictly on the field, based on his players and their conduct, he’s over rated. Bundle that together with his sideline antics I witnessed and he’s just a bully when he has a loaded team is all.

    Before any one says things like, “look at his Championships” or “Where have you coached?” let me say…”I think Mike Ditka is a terrible coach” as well and he’s got a Super Bowl Ring and is in the HOF, lol. But judging Ditka vs Walsh, Landry and others he’s lousy…isn’t that true? I never played in teh NFL but Im allowed to diss Iron mIke but not some high school coach in the Fish Bowl? Look Bogan ain’t no Lara, Rollinson, Welch or Thomas is he? Thats my baseline.

    Anyway that’s my opinion. Next year the Sierra will be “rich” with drama, tension, transfers and resume changes…just watch and see.

  • Coaching

    back trackin;

    I sure hope you are not an example of a Bishop Amat graduate, your comprehension is extremely low.

    “Now if you think you are going to get top talent to transfer in with no guarantees, then you have no clue how it works out there in the real world.”
    April 20, 2010 5:47 PM
    All I stated is that guarantees were made, and I am standing by that one.

    why you think Gano over at LA was so successful, he guaranteed the transfers starting positions. If Hagerty doesnt do the same they wont come, real simple.
    April 20, 2010 4:33 PM

    All I am stating is if Hagerty doesnt do the same then they wont come, where do you see me guarantee that Hagerty did make that agreement.
    Maybe I need to use smaller words so you dont get confused.

  • Coaching

    I have to chime in on the coaching one, Bogan, Gano and Farrar all three suck as head coaches. These three guys need teams loaded with talent to compete. Now that they are in their new division lets see them coach up THEIR kids. Like I said Hagerty does a great job of that with the talent he has, the best in the valley.

  • back trackin’

    Coaching – you contradicted yourself in the same post.

    “All I stated is that guarantees were made, and I am standing by that one.”

    “where do you see me guarantee that Hagerty did make that agreement. ”

    Uummm – a few sentences earlier!

    If comprehension is not my strong point – debate is not yours.

  • Coaching

    The grantee could have been as little as “Booth the starting position is yours to lose”. Nowhere did I say that I grantee that Booth was getting the starting position big difference. I can only assume that your cutting and pasting parts of my comments is to confuse the readers, but then again I am probably giving you too much credit.

  • Coaching?

    Coaching

    You still have not answered the direct questions.

    You really believe that because YOU say it – that makes it TRUE don’t you?

    A sham and nothing more.

  • Old Timer

    The talk of Transfers will always create all sorts of controversy throughout the HS football community like a Tsunami. It almost seems to be the norm nowadays. Some of us football purists, like myself, hate the idea of transfers, simply because it is unfair to the other kid who has been loyal to his program and who has busted his ass for 3 years only to see the new kid take his position away. Is it fair? Is it legal? Where is his loyaly? What about his High School experience?

    I think it is only unfair if the transferee has been guaranteed a starting job without having to earn it, I say let the best man compete and earn his pay. Booth has not been guaranteed anything, but if he beat out Rio or Tyler for the starting position, I say more power to him. Competition breeds the competition. Competition beats complacency. You’d become a better worker knowing the new guy wants your job badly.

    You could also argue that in order to win games and compete, you need to have big and strong athletes. In a very competitive league like the PAC5, teams such as OLU, Mater Dei, Long Beach Poly, Servite, Crespi and Notre Dame will see their team benefit from big time transfers. How can Amat compete with these Behemoths every year with local players, unless, of course they do the same? For the coaches it is their livelihood to win games (in order to keep their jobs) as long as no rules are broken, they will always have their doors open for would be transfers. I don’t know of one person who hates to win.

    Whether we like it or not, it is a reality of life and I have learned to accept it. We live in a highly competitive world, the Global Economy and High School sports are no different. We thought them that.

  • Coaching

    Many of Old Timer’s points are the same as mine. I do believe the coaching staffs wants Booth to be the starting QB for Bishop Amat. This will stimulate the future transfers into Bishop Amat. If Booth ends up being the backup that will reduce future transfers into Bishop Amat.

    You heard it here first “Rio is the better QB but Booth at QB and Rio at WR makes the team stronger, that is why we went with Booth”. That will be the coaching staffs position this coming August.

  • Coaching

    It took 114 comments for you guys to figure it out. The best comment was the one bragging about the number of comments on another Bishop Amat thread.

    You guys think your so smart but you just proved how stupid you are, I had fun with you guys for days and you keep coming back for more.

    I hope all that money you are spending at Bishop Amat gives you kids a better education than you have.

  • Yet Another D.W.E.E.B. “Don’t Worry Everyone Enjoys Baffoonery”

    It’s so funny to see the annual “I’m smarter than Amat is” dweeb that comes on and “takes on the whole Amat mystique” only to expose himself as nothing more than a wanna be Lancer. The dweebs always know Amat coaches, know Amat’s internal dynamics and in some way, fashion or form straddle the fence and live for the attention they get from Amat Lancers.

    It isn’t hard to imagine who these dweebs really are is it? On the surface these dweebs seek to put the Amat bloggers in their place. The the quetsion is what “place” is that? Few schools have the national recognition Amat enjoys. Few schools have the storied seasons and players that Amat has. While South Hills, Los Altos and Charter Oak have had their stars and incredible seasons Amat remains poised to compete at the same level they always have, can the other schools make the same claims? Which brings us to the really motivation of the dweebs. What you can’t accomplish in competition you might accomplish on the blog,

    The moral victory for the dweebs comes in two fashions. Days, weeks or even months of Amat engagement or, if lucky, the exasperation of Amat bloggers when they realize they have given a dweeb blogger legendary status by accepting them as a thorn in their side or by offering the dweeb a seat at Amat’s trough.

    The list is endless, and while some think it’s the same person, the end result is the same…more blog hits. My street smarts tells me that’s the key to knowing who the dweebs are (plural).

    Here’s the rub though. while CO enjoyed a magical run of three CIF Championship games and a final tally of worthy D1 signees they only gained a moral victory of sorts because Amat enjoyed a even more dramatic resurgence of their own that garnered Section wide acclaim. Last year SD “did the impossible” and beat Amat’s baseball team and what does Amat do for an encore? Come back even stronger.

    Tough to compete with Amat when all is said and done so keep the dweebs coming.

    How about a new Fish Bowl “term”….dweeb.

  • Hey Coaching…..

    Coaching

    It’s OK. Not everyone has what it takes to be an Amat student and Alumnus. We understand you didn’t and harbor bitterness because of it. However, because you like to give so much attention to the Lancer’s, your living vicariously through Amat will just have to do.

    By the way – are you ever going to answer the questions?

  • just askin’

    I always find it funny when someone says they were just writing something to get a rise out of other bloggers.

    Did it ever occur to you that those bloggers respond just to push YOUR buttons!

  • Coaching

    Coaching,

    That wasn’t the only reason, the comments are valid that is why your parents continued to reply, they are concerned. To be honest with you if my son was a underclassmen in your porgram espically at the hot positions I would be concerned also.

    Learn to deal with it, you have no control of it.

  • amatfan

    what about the upcoming sophmores coming up this upcoming season. especially at reciever because if ruiz moves to qb whos goin to fill that void besides wallace with haynes and johnson leaving????

  • http://insidesocial amat lover

    whos going to fill the reciever void besides wallace if ruiz goes to qb. Theres no more haynes and darien. any freshman coming up who can possibly play varsity next year

  • TC observer

    The ONLY Amat frosh ready to play Varisty Football: Adam Alcantara. That is IT.

  • WHERE DID YOU GET EDUCATED

    Coaching,
    Your spelling is terrible and your sentence structure is not far behind. Where did you get your education since you like to call bloggers out on their writing skills and education .

  • http://insidesocial the reciever question next year

    As far as the reciever question goes, dont sleep on TE anothony carillo who is a pretty good sized kid for a freshman. Alcantara could also possibly move to reciever. And depending on how well Booth performs, rio could stay at reciever with wallace playing WR/TE. I’ve also heard about frershman Joseph Cook who is 6’3 but undersized. If he could bulk up, he could also be a factor in this equation. But no matter who is playing reciever, amat will shine again next year under head coach Hagerty. Good luck in the 2010-2011 season Lancers!!!!!!

  • Lancers02

    Cook has size and speed but has no hands. Ian Hagerty and another kid named Ruiz also have great speed but too young and need to mature. The only sophomore kids that I see that may make Varsity and see playing time are 6’2″ Alcantara at Safety/WR, 6’2 Anthony Carillo at TE or Wideout, 5’10″ DJ Daniels RB and big 280LB Andrew Hauser on the OL. They just need to bulk up and learn to play with the big boys.

  • New Lancer

    Had a great season last year as an incoming Lancer Parent. Freshman squad had some players but I agree, all need to hit the weightroom this summer to bulk up if they are going to play at the next level (Varsity). Alcantara can flat out play and if he bulks up he will be a player on Varsity. Carrillo also needs to hit the weightroom and work on speed. Daniels is a good running back, again size and experience will be a factor. Hauer is a big kid and weightroom and great coaching staff will determine if he can make a contribution this year. LB kerkoff(?) is a possible contributer as he has the instincts and mentality to play the position above his head. Cook has the heigth and speed but needs to gain some serious weight. His hands need to be refined as he is often hit and miss with catchable balls. My son will be trying to make the JV team but that’s ok because he had a blast just being part of the team. Can’t wait for next season. Go Amat.

  • http://sportlover425@yahoo.com new lancer 2

    After only going to five lancer freshman football games this past season, here is my report of which freshman you might see on the varisty squad this coming year. I saw the freshman team play damien, west covina, loyola, st paul, and finally crepsi. I agree with the first New lancer’s report except for a few players. From the five games i saw, i will say alcantara and hauser are almost locks for next years varsity squad. RB/linebacker daniels along with linebacker andre kerkoff also have great chances along as they continue to get better this off season. Now here comes one of my disagreements from the first new lancer’s report. I will start off and say that the freshman team, like most amat footall teams, was a run first offensive attack. With that said, i didnt see joseph cook thrown alot of passes, so it would be hard to say he has no hands. I did however see him catch 10+ passes, a touchdown, numerous key first downs, and two very nice hook-and-ladders with adam alcantara in thier lost to loyola. And dont forget hes at least 6’2 i beleive, a big target at the next level. If he can just gain some weight, he can be a varisty player next year. The last player i am goin to talk about is defensive line ben kane, brother of daniel kane. He might be a little undersized, but makes up for it with his speed and quick swim technique. These freshman should all make a impact on bishop amats football program in the coming years. Good luck this coming season Lancers

  • http://sportlover425@yahoo.com new lancer 2

    I also want to give a shout out to Austin Lacy. The entire amat family is still praying and wishing him and his family the best. WE all hope he can make a full recovery and be out there with his teammates this upcoming season

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