All-Encompassing SGV(N) Top 25 going into Week 3 …


No. 2 Glendora’s brain trust needs to figure out a way to slow WestCo

1. Bishop Amat (3-0) – 16.4 average margin of victory. Man, these guys stink!
2. Glendora (3-0) – All the Tartans do is win. Remember that, WestCo.
3. St. Francis (2-0) – Knights are good, but are they Mission League good?
4. Chino Hills (2-1) – Your team would fly up the rankings, too … if it beat Tesoro.
5. Bonita (3-0) – If this is how the ‘Cats play when shorthanded, then …
6. La Habra (1-2) – Stepping up isn’t working out well, but LH is still quality
7. Ayala (3-0) – The quiet Sierra Leage contender put up 61 last week!
8. Charter Oak (2-1) – Get the feeling Big Lou wants CO improvement kept quiet
9. Rowland (3-0) – Went through Rosemead with ease, how good are Raiders?
10. Damien (2-0) – Holy War with Amat looms on Friday
11. Covina (3-0) – Is it official? Are Colts the Valle Vista League favorites?
12. West Covina (2-1) – Brutalized South Hills, but can they do the same to Glendora?
13. Whittier Chrsitian (3-0) – Heralds win, but others move up due to competition.
14. Monrovia (1-1) – The moment M-Town’s been waiting for is Friday night
15. Arroyo (3-0) – If Rivera can be back in time for Rosemead, Knights will be OK
16. Azusa (2-0) – I’m preparing you now to see Aztecs in top 10 at some point.
17. South Hills (1-1) – Doesn’t get any easier for SH with trip deep into the OC
18. Claremont (2-1) – Aram the ‘Pack apologist reminds you they’ve been shorthanded
19. Cantwell (2-0) – I’m already looking forward to the Whittier Chistian game
20. La Mirada (1-2) – Got much-needed win over Cal, now it’s time to streak?
21. Diamond Bar (3-0) – I’m just as stunned as you are … but 3-0 is 3-0
22. Muir (1-2) – Mustangs need to get healthy in time for league
23. La Canada (2-0) – We’ll find out what Spartans are about in CV game
24. Santa Fe (1-1) – Hard to fault close loss to Bonita too much
25. San Dimas (1-2) – Saints can calm all fears by beating Monrovia

  • SH/Glendora are way different defensively.

    Aram,

    You do know there’s a big difference in the strength and speed of the Glendora and SH linebackers. WC will have to learn to air it out quickly once Glendora stops the run. CO rushed for only 130 yards as a team, but they could pass. Monrovia for around 200 rushing (half was QB), but they can’t pass. Canyon around 200 rushing as well, but they can’t pass. WC needed over 300 yards rushing to beat Venice and somewhere near 300 to beat SH. I don’t see WC going over 200 against Glendora and well they can’t pass so….. Glendora by a score or two, but WC doesn’t put up many points.

  • Aaron

    Basically wish Claremont and Santa Fe to have great seasons the rest of the way…and SD win all of league…I just like Mtown more than SD in this matchup. But they could win.

    And to Bravetown…have yet to see you this year, and well we’re coming to town again so, um yeah. Have fun in the Valle Vista.

  • really?

    Honestly I don’t think Diamond Bar deserves to be on this list. The schools they played were weak and they struggled against Don Lugo.

  • Reality

    If West Co. beats Glendora which I think happens how far does Glendora fall and how high does W.C. go? And then what do you do with Covina? Oh man this is getting good. And then mix in a Damien upset of Amat!!

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    What to do with West Covina and Covina? You have to keep ranking Covina above WestCo because they have scoreboard … as long as the Colts keep winning. Of course, beating South Hills and Glendora would be two monstrous wins.

  • Titanic

    Covina’s overinflated ranking will take care of itself. Starting with a loss against Walnut this week.

  • Aaron

    Sadly Bravetown is down and out.

  • Food for thought in the Midvalley

    Rankings will play themselves out. These Rankings look good accept for the Covina over West Co Ranking and Covina being the highest ranked Midvalley Team. Upsets can be tricky. You really have to ask did covina beat west co or did west co just choke it? I’d say of course covina won the game. I know you are trying to shake things up, be provocative, take the sexy pic. I Have seen them play. They are a solid team, But Aram are they honestly the best in the midvalley? They proved they can score, but their defense has not been tested nor proven. Teams can shine for week or two, but its a long year. I think that CIF Rankings should play a Part these rankings. I am trying to figure out how Covina is ranked higher than Azusa, whittier Christian ,and Monrovia, In the SGV rankings, but not in Cif Rankings. Arroyo had a huge injury so that’s justified. They needed the win against West co to break into the top ten in the mid valley.Before the season they were not on grid, then they win one game and and two powder puff games and they move up over ten spots? Where does that happen in any poll? It’s not like they beat Amat. Even more so, you drop West Co 7 spots, and they just blew out a strong City Section Team and South Hills…Covina is a good team, don’t get me wrong…but Last week you had them as a at large play off team. Now With wins against Gladstone and El Monte, They are the highest ranked team in the Midvalley? What koolaid are you pushing man lol. I am still not sold on them yet. Those two teams are very bad. But Hey Aram can love who he wants. I like them too, but to say they are the best team in the mid valley is putting your credibility on the line. It could pay off if covina wins their league, then Id say they are #1 or #2 for sure. I just don’t think they are the favorites in that league. Baldwin Park is taking huge lumps right now with a tough preseason, but they are going to be tough, Pomona is going to be tough and San Dimas is going to be tough. We will see if your right, but when its all said and done they may be a semifinal team, but won’t be the #1 seed in th Midvalley. I’d bet money on that..would any bet they are going to get the number one seed? Do you think you being just a little to high on them too early?

  • Maxprep.com Rankings for SGV Teams

    I know that Rankings are opinionated and can Vary from writer to writer. I wanted to see how Aram Matched up with the Rankings that CBS Sports on Maxpreps.com is posting nationally. I used the teams that Aram put in the rankings for the tribune, and used Maxpreps State and Section Ranking to put together a top 25 for the SGV. All of this weeks games results were updated on the site. I do understand Local writers do get to see one game in person per week, but they also have other people sending them scores and highlights. If you cross reference the LA times with max preps, you will see Bishop At #14 and Glendora at #25 in both publications.They are also ranked 1 and 2 in the tribune, things are looking accurate. I am wondering if these two publications are using the same formula or sharing information along with CIF imput. I am sure strength of schedule, pts scored and allowed and other factors play a role in the Rankings, as they should. If you like and want to know go on these national sites and see for yourself. I was suprised at what I saw after the first 3 games. What was striking, Teams did get rewarded for playing up and winning. The teams who played eachother; the winner was ranked higher than the loser(example…Covina was ranked higher than West Co, and West Co was Ranked higher than South hills) Also,teams who played up and played tough competition got love for what I hate to call it but a “Quality loss”, and were not punished for losing(examples La Habra, La Mirada and Monrovia,) But for example teams like Muir got no love because San Gabriel was not a quality win and the lost to saugus hurt, plus teams in the Pacific had a bad showing this week. Teams like st francis are not playing up or better comp. Well anyway, Whether you agree or not you will see that maxpreps is considered to be a credible source,…This is how teams are ranked on Max Preps as of today.

    CBS SPORTS Maxpreps.com
    1 Bishop Amat
    2 Glendora
    3 La Habra
    4 Chino Hills
    5 Bonita
    6 Charter Oak
    7 La Mirada
    8 Rowland
    9 St Francis
    10 Monrovia
    11 Ayala
    12 Damien
    13 Claremont
    14 Covina
    15 Whittier Christian
    16 West Covina
    17 South Hills
    18 Cantwell Sacred heart
    19 Azusa
    20 San Dimas
    21 Muir
    22 Sante Fe
    23 Arroyo
    24 Daimond Bar
    25 La Canada

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    I’m not trying to be provocative at all. Covina beat West Covina and has not lost. How can you rank them below West Covina? Also, Covina has posted the best nonleague win, by far, of any Mid-Valley Division team. And, they’re undefeated. So, again, how are they not the highest-ranked Mid-Valley team?

    My league/playoff predictions are something entirely different than this. Those are my predictions of how I think things will end up. But right now, this poll is based on results. Results say that Covina beat West Covina, and hasn’t lost a game. Yes, they were bad enough to be down 21-2, but they were also good enough to rally late.

  • Aaron

    I’m wondering what you thought my crazed email was like…three dudes at the Amat game is a bad use of resources personally AT.

  • BRAVETOWN

    AARON, I AM HERE.. THANKS FOR LOOKING ME UP.

    ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT MY BRAVES, IS, I AM DISGUSTED BY THEIR PLAY. IT SEEMS AS IF CRUTCHFIELD IS RUNNING THE TEAM AND THE PLAYERS DONT CARE. WHERE IS COACH HIGGINS ON ALL THIS, ISNT HE THE HEAD COACH? ITS NOT THE PLAYERS FAULT, THEY ARE A GOOD GROUP OF KIDS. THESE DUARTE COACHES ARE THERE ONLY FOR THEIR KIDS AND DONT CARE ABOUT THE B.P. HOMEGROWN PLAYERS. I WOULD FIGURE COACH HIGGINS WOULD OR THE LINE COACH, “BOTH FROM B.P” WOULD CARE ABOUT THEM. ITS NOT PRETTY AT B.P.RIGHT NOW. BAD COACHING ON DISPLAY OUT THERE, CANTWELL JUS BEAT US UP PHYSICALLY AND OUTCOACHED US, AS DID SOUTH HILLS. WHERE DID ALL THE OTHER COACHES FROM B.P. GO? THE GUYS THAT ACTUALLY CARED AND PLAYED AT B.P.? HAVE NOT SEEN THE SAME GUYS THERE IN A WHILE?

    GO BRAVES !!!!

  • Patrick

    @ Really??

    Dude , quit all the hating and worry about your own team! This place is full of people is SAD with all the personal vendettas against a bunch of teenagers! ITs it interesting out of all the 25 teams , you single out Diamond Bar, they are having a decent season thus far, and NOT the easiest schedule like you are trying to imply, so whats your deal??

  • SGV FOOTBALL

    The only good thing I see from this is poll is that all the teams in the Sierra are in the top 18!!! Thats great news, can’t wait for league to start up…

  • Colt74

    I think Polls are like a drunks underwear…….They are full of Doo-Doo and get changed once a week…..

  • Aaron

    Hate to break it to you Patrick, but DB has a composite schedule of their first four opponents rating: -5.475 by Cal Preps. Beat Diamond Ranch and then we’ll talk brother.

  • MidValley

    La Habra and San Dimas are very similar. Both scheduled up and are getting ready for league and then CIF. It does no good to beat the Montview or Orange league. They are both better than people ranked higher on this list. Even if SD loses to Monrovia, they will run through league. BP and Covina, look out! Freeway league is all La Habra’s.

  • Food for thought

    I’ve stated I like Covina. I’ve seen them play. I don’t think they are the best. CIF does not think they are the best. Maxpreps does not think they the best in the Mid valley. I a really concerned, just to be clear, you are saying that Covina is the best team in the mid valley now, but as the season goes on…they will play all the way down to at large birth? Rankings are not based on Results alone because if that was the case, then La Habra would have to fall out the top 5. But because they played Orange Lu, and Servite, you gave them Points because despite their record, you feel they are better than the teams ranked below them. Come on man…. lol. You don’t believe they are the best team in the Midvalley or their league. Covina Had Already beat West Covina, when you did your league predictions. Why didn’t you say they were Valley Vista Favorites then? Just like I thought you figured because they got lucky against west co, and beat two powder puffs, they still would not be able to win League….

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    Uh, listen. Maxpreps rankings and CIF polls are truly worthless. Maxpreps is a computer, same with Calpreps. CIF polls are sparsely voted on and they’re just guesswork. Some coaches vote, some don’t. Some media guys vote (I don’t, Freddie doesn’t), some don’t. So I would say a poll made by somebody who sees the teams and talks to a lot of people is more reliable than those other polls.

  • Reality

    Always enjoy B.P.s stadium. Great sight lines and the best food. Bonita watch out. The braves need to scalp somebody and you’re in their hunting grounds.

  • Colt74

    Where to start…..

    Titanic : I think the only thing over rated is your imagination that Walnut will beat Covina.

    Food for thought : Why do your start your post with “I like Covina…” then use the rest of your post to bash them? ” Lucky “…” beat 2 Powderpuff teams ”
    Seriously…Do you wake up every night in a cold sweat screaming ” Oh No..27-21 !!!!!! It can’t be !!!! ” ?????

    Let it go!!!!!!

    And that goes to whomever is writing each update about West Covina. Why, when they win, is the Covina loss brought up…again…and again….and again…Couldn’t that extra paragraph be used to give props to their kids for how well they played THAT game? I like West Covina and their tradition but I see this kicking a dead dog and disrespectful. Just my 2 cents.

    Let it go!!!!!!!

  • Really Bravetown

    It’s the same coaches as last year!

  • patrick

    Aaron, you didnt even get the point i was making to him!!, however wrong or right you are! Its just funny , cats go behind a computer screen to let loose their rage and hatred, YET wont go into public and say it face to face! Thats my point! he also couldve picked out a few other teams with weak schedules, but he chose to single out one team.

  • Don

    Aram,

    My take on the CIF polls is same as yours for the reasons stated. As far as the CalPreps (Maxpreps) polling goes, I am of a different mind.

    Pre-season numbers, which use the previous year’s finish and a combination of reported, (or unreported), returnees, can provide numbers that are wildly inaccurate. Heck, they even say that on their web site. As the season progresses and all of the teams have their results mixed in, the numbers firm up and as regular season play closes out are probably the best indicator of team efficacy around.

    The predictor they use works to a traditional mid 80% accuracy during the last few weeks of the season even though they don’t have access to some of the special information available to pundits using less scientific means…

  • D-Mo

    I realize that it’s the wins that have Glendora up there, but if WC plays with the intensity they played with last Thursday against SH, Glendora is going to need all the Tarten luck they have left – not to mention some additional speed to catch those RBs.
    WC 38
    GHS 14
    Teams should trade spots on the list if this happens. CO loss to GHS was a fluke. WC loss to Covina was a fluke.

  • inquisitor

    It seems to me that injuries seem to be piling up higher and higher every year,even in an era when divulging medical information is slow coming if at all.Apparently Bonita, Muir, Azusa, Claremont have guys out with major medical issues and know one knows how when or why they are out and when if ever they will play. It seems that there should be someone over-seeing the recovery of a player and his clearance to play again. Almost every announcement about a injured player returning either by article or inside info has been wrong. I guess the only thing to expect is when a player goes down don’t look for him anymore. You would hope with the up-graded equipment the boys would not get hurt enough to miss half the season but something is going on or going wrong.I’am loathe to sat it but do someplayers just want to be out of there because in the black and blue Del Rio league there are not anywhere as many injuries.

  • Midvalley Thoughts

    I am enjoying all of these comments regarding the Midvalley…Covina is good dam good. But they won’t win the mid Valley. They beat west co, no doubt about it! But with the last two games played its hard for them to really gauge how good they really are. A convincing win against Walnut will signify they are for real. Will they win the Valley Vista? Maybe, will they go undefeated in league, we will see. Depending on the pairing, I think the mid valley Semis teams will be…

    Monrovia
    Azusa
    Whittier Christian
    Covina/San Dimas

  • so d-mo

    so d-mo what passing game does wc have? none exactly and glendora has stopped the run in the three games and the defense has been on lockdown for the passing game as well. yes glendora gets yards against them but they stop the teams when it counts. the are a bend but dont break defense. glendora’s linebackers are fast. they know what angles to take and can tackle. but the d-line needs to step it up. i believe glendora wins by 2 tds. pasqy needs to stick to one thing when it starts working and not change it up. good luck tartans beat wc and become 4-0. also congrats glendora ranked in top 25 in la times. but not in cif top 10. cif needs to open their eyes

  • so d-mo

    oops just checked glendora is now number 10 in inland

  • Mid Valley Man

    We do this all in Fun… I am no sports writer, but I follow the games. This is my opinion, on what is going on in the midvalley.

    Actual CIF Rankings
    MID-VALLEY DIVISION
    RANK SCHOOL REC. RESULT OPPONENT SCORE
    1. Arroyo 3-0 Won Montebello 12-8
    2. Whittier Christian 3-0 Won Kern Valley 33-11
    3. Azusa 2-0 Won Ontaro Christian 31-10
    4. Monrovia 1-1 Won Arcadia 37-7
    5. San Marino 2-0 Won La Salle 48-6
    6. Covina 3-0 Won El Monte 31-0
    7. San Dimas 1-2 Lost Rancho Cucamonga 10-21
    8. Village Christian 2-1 Won Antelope Valley 35-16
    9. Pomona 3-0 Won Ganesha 48-7
    10. La Puente 2-0 Won Northview 34-17
    Other Sierra Vista 2-0 Won Mountain View 10-7

    My Insight
    1-Arroyo Star QB hurt…They are going to lose to Hart, and league is very weak. With a lose and injuries, they may be out the top 5 by league.

    2-Whittier Christian their strength of Schedule is questionable, but they may be #1 after Arroyo loss. They have to keep winning

    3-Azusa They are playing well and should go undefeated, but strength of scheduled may cause them to stay at 3 or fall a spot if other Midvalley teams win their big games

    4-Monrovia took a hard loss early to top ranked Glendora..Their destiny is in their hands. They have tough games ahead and could end up being #1 or #2 with wins against San Dimas and South hills.

    5-San Marino was rolling smooth, but with injury to star running back, they may finish 3rd in Rio Hondo Behind Monrovia and La Canada. Mooney May have a Miracle somewhere…They may drop as the weeks roll on.

    6-Covina with a big win against a strong West Covina team and win against Walnut, they could be #5 easily. If they win league, they will have to be #1 or #2 going into the playoffs. San Dimas, and Pomona are ranked so that makes the Valley Vista the best league. Tough road but if they run the table, they will be the team to beat.

    7-The Defending Mid Valley Champs, started off rough but playing all those tough games, will have them battle tested. They may still be the Valley Vista Favorites They have Monrovia up next. If they win that game, they will move up. Watch out for the saints in playoffs..

    8-Villiage Christian They will have to win league to move into the top 5. If they do, expect them to be a tough out in the playoffs.

    9-Pomona They have a good coach, alot talent, and could cause problems in the Valley Vista league and the playoffs..San Dimas and Covina better be ready. Someone may wake up in third place.

    10-La Puente They are a bunch of hard nose kids with a chip on their shoulders. Everyone has already penciled in Azusa as the Montview Champs. Will La punte be up to the challege? Can they knock off the Aztecs?

    Others: Sierra Vista, La Canada, Baldwin Park…All these teams are lurking to see who they can knock off. The Midvalley is going to be exciting!!!

    My personal Rankings

    1.Whittier Christian(Someone has to be #1)
    2.Monrovia(Penalized too much For loss to Glendora. Plus South hills and San Dimas.. good comp games)
    3.Covina(Big Wins and Wins Big, they are making some noise!)
    4.Azusa(undefeated but higher rank teams are better)
    5.San Dimas(Bonita, Rancho, Monrovia, which mid valley team would take that road? Probably None)
    6.Arroyo(injuries)
    7.Pomona(Has more to prove)
    8.San Marino(injuries)
    9.Villiage Christian(has more to prove)
    10.La Puente(They are a tough team)

  • circle

    all i kno is that la habra would beat bishop amat..chino hills is slightly better then charter oak and glendora… and even tho this isnt the best schurr team they will still win league for like the 8th time in a row n be an ok team in playoffs but they still need work there preseason will help them get better..and also arroyo is overrated how do u barely slip past montebello???????

  • Aaron

    Patrick you’re right about that, I’d just thought I’d point out that with the schedule you have you should and better be 4-0 before you have that collision with Diamond Ranch.

  • Close – but no cigar!

    circle – La Habra lost to an OLu team that struggled with a Garfield team Amat shut out and squeaked by a La Mirada team that lost to St Paul – who Amat beats like a drum. Sorry LH is not ready for Prime Time – as their results vs D1-3 show.

  • Dan

    La Habra hasn’t looked like they are Pac 5 ready, good program but the lost to O-Lu who was just blown out by Tustin,and struggled with Garfield doesn’t look so good.
    La Habra’s close game with La Mirada reinforces the same thought. La Miradas loss to St. Paul is understandable in past years but with St. Paul losing to Norwalk last week it takes a little luster away from
    the thought that La Habra or La Mirada are ready for the Pac 5 schools. In my opinion La Habra and La Mirada
    are not even a lock in their own divisions this year.

  • Sorry La Habra is not pac Five.

    La Habra could not beat Bishop Amat. If they struggle with O Lu, bishop would handle them. Each game is different… but La Habra being shut out by servite shows you what they are ready to be removed from Pac 5 conversations…. Bishop and servite could be a secound or third round Match up in Pac 5 playoffs. La Habra is good, but a long way from being at that level. When you are trying to jump into the pac five, you have to factor in your ability to be good every year. Its that longevity that makes the pac five so tough. Yeah this year you may have team, and next your you may have a team, but will you have a team playing at that level for the next ten years. The answer is no. My guess is if they jump that high, your looking at sub .500 hundred records for a while. La Habra can move up, but not that high!

  • Sorry La Habra is not pac Five.

    La Habra could not beat Bishop Amat. If they struggle with O Lu, bishop would handle them. Each game is different… but La Habra being shut out by servite shows you what they are ready to be removed from Pac 5 conversations…. Bishop and servite could be a secound or third round Match up in Pac 5 playoffs. La Habra is good, but a long way from being at that level. When you are trying to jump into the pac five, you have to factor in your ability to be good every year. Its that longevity that makes the pac five so tough. Yeah this year you may have team, and next your you may have a team, but will you have a team playing at that level for the next ten years. The answer is no. My guess is if they jump that high, your looking at sub .500 hundred records for a while. La Habra can move up, but not that high!

  • circle

    well everyone says lets see bishop and charter oak…but if anybody on this list has a shot at beating bishop its la habra not charter oak…CO is good but not that good…

  • Dan

    La Habra hasn’t done anything this year to show they are better than CO. At this point of the season CO, La Habra, Glendora, WC and maybe a couple others look to be at the same caliber, which in my opinion is just a tad below Chino Hills and Amat.

  • SGV Watchmen

    La Habra vs Charter Oak would be a more fitting game. Niether LH or CO would beat Bishop, the games would be close if either team played, but Bishops Defense and experience coachs coaching in big games would be too much. On the Other hand, playing either schools or both over Garfield and Muir would be better preseason games. They should be preparing for league a little better. Dominguez was a good game. Damien is a decent game, but like i said Charter Oak week 0 and La Habra week 3 would really give the locals what they want!! Cathedral?? Venice?? umm they are little too strong for that. Venice got beat by West Co and Cathedral struggled with glendale 21-10. I think they should stay in the SGV for 4 out of 5 preseason games. There is enough good teams around to get ready for league Just Imagine…. There would be no questions left for any one! Would Bishop be up for this…would these teams want to play them? Just something to think about.

    Week 1 Charter Oak
    Week 2 Dominguez
    Week 3 La Habra
    Week 4 St Francis
    Week 5 Chino Hills

  • Aaron

    Calpreps Project a matchup…I decided to have some fun for CO against La Habra

    Charter Oak (Covina, CA) 21, La Habra (CA) 19

    And then I saw this scrolling up:

    Bonita (La Verne, CA) 31, Charter Oak (Covina, CA) 22

    So I looked at these two:
    Glendora (CA) 28, Charter Oak (Covina, CA) 20
    Charter Oak (Covina, CA) 31, West Covina (CA) 28

    And then I did this:

    Bonita (La Verne, CA) 28, La Habra (CA) 14
    Bonita (La Verne, CA) 28, Glendora (CA) 24

    West Covina (CA) 22, La Habra (CA) 20
    Glendora (CA) 28, West Covina (CA) 21

  • SGV FOOTBALL

    Aaron & kh

    This has to be the funniest thing you have ever seen!!!
    I was rolling literally on the floor when I saw this.
    Cal preps has Bonita beating BA by one point. LOL LOL LOL.

    WOW just like the BCS rankings flawed.
    Bonita (La Verne, CA) 28
    Bishop Amat (La Puente, CA) 27

  • Aaron

    Didn’t see that one…had to check for myself…wasn’t laughing at all but I was scratching my head.

  • Norco

    This was sent to me last Friday night….. :)

    From: Mater Dei Fan
    Sent at: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:21 pm
    To: Norco

    Message

    Dear Norco,

    If my calculations are correct, you should receive this message immediately after Corona Centennial scored in the third quarter to take a 44-0 lead. First, let me assure you that I’m alive and well. I’ve been living happily these past two months in the year 1994. The energy generated by Corona Centennial’s sheer power of created a portal in stands which threw me 16 years into the past.

    Once you receive this message, please do not attempt to bring me back to 2010. I am perfectly happy in 1994, watching John Flynn and Rod Perry march through the South Coast League as I eagerly await the arrival of Matt Grootegoed and Lenny Vandermade. I feel that unnecessary time travel only risks further disruption of the time line and do not wish to live in a world where football in Riverside County is relevant and further losses to Servite are guaranteed.

    These are my wishes. Please respect them and follow them.

    Your friend in time, Mater Dei Fan, November 1, 1994.

  • OC North Fan

    Everyone that’s putting down La Habra don’t know that many of their key players are hurt or out. The teams they have played against are all healthy and still had a tough time with an average La Habra team. If or when they are 100% or close, they will look very different. Sure, they have some areas to work on, but La Habra always starts slow and gets much stronger as the season gets deeper. I’ve watched them since the late 90′s and by far this is the worst year for injuries.

  • COChargerfan

    Computer projections have the same value as a powder blue polyester leisure suit.

    Aaron, isn’t it a little inconsistent to insinuate that all of the sudden Bonita is a better team than CO considering that their school principal voted to kick CO out of their league (and division)…because they didn’t want to play them anymore? CO didn’t ask to leave the Miramonte and even appealed the initial re-leaguing vote…they were kicked out including by Bonita’s representative.

  • Aaron

    Based on the way the defense is playing…they could have a shot. However the way the offense played last week I’d say no. Yet, before that fateful day in practice where GP fractured his elbow I’d call it a barn burner. Remember the Bearcats have beaten the Chargers before…at your place and ours…just not nearly as often as the Chargers have beaten the Bearcats.

    Whereas Diamond Ranch has never beaten the Chargers.

  • COChargerfan

    I have no idea who would have won a Bonita v. CO football matchup this year let alone whether CO would have won another Southeastern Title but am just pointing out the inconsistency of kicking a school out of a league/division because they were too dominant and then the very next year saying bring it on because we can beat you…that’s all.

    I respect Bonita and will miss the rivalries in many sports including baseball and basketball. Their record speaks that pretty much other than football, over the past two years Bonita was the dominate Miramonte school when talking about the major boys and girls sports.

  • Depth

    OC North Fan – and that’s a major difference between a Pac5 school and your division. Depth. When someone goes down – someone steps in. Look at all the losses Bishop Amat has had – and others fill in so they’re 3-0

  • Don

    Aaron,

    Remember the CalPreps projections have a +- 25% or so this time of year and won’t really hit their “sweet spot for another four or five weeks; just not enough data for all teams against teams of type.

    The Maxprep/CalPrep numbers also know nothing about injuries to key players or their projected return or losses due to any type of eligibility issue. For that matter, their are all kinds of things affecting prep athletes everyday, in and out of school that aren’t calculated in Ned Freeman’s math.

    I’m a huge CalPreps guy and it improves every year but it is still too early to use the projector for anything other than hits and shiggles.

  • OC North Fan

    Depth, I agree with you. If the 1st stringers go down, the team does look different, and La Habra can battle with the lower divisions with the non-starters and get away with it; but if we lose people and play pac 5 schools, it’s hard to compete. It’s already hard enough playing those schools with a healthy 1st string.

    Although, with healthy players this level can compete with the Pac 5 division…ie look at Tustin beating OLU.

  • Aaron

    COCFAN,

    It definitely was a rivalry between schools. Games against Charter Oak meant a lot in almost every sport. As far as the dissolution of the Miramonte is concerned, there’s a whole lot of finger point to be done if that’s what you want to do and only 1/4 of the principals that wanted it gone resides in La Verne.

  • To Aaron

    Aaron,
    when will your QB be back. and how much do you think they will improve with him and why?

  • Aaron

    He should be cleared to fully practice towards the end of the week so we won’t see him until Bonita faces Diamond Bar since Bonita is on a bye. Have to say the schedule set up quite nicely with a week to get healthy before league play.

    As far as improvement, heck Greg Spathias DID HIS JOB, he managed the game and now the Bearcats are 3-0 for the first time in what seems awhile.

    The Passing game will improved and we’ll have a great offense with a stable of backs to have a ground game and very talented receivers. Losing Casey Horine will hurt a little but there are a bunch of guys that can fill his hole together with a cumulative effort. Casey Horine is a team captain and now he’s in the hard position of having to teach and be the motivator behind that defense.

  • Rankings Today vs 15 years ago

    Its been entertaining to see people go back and forth the past weeks over rankings and who’s who. Who can beat who, and who can beat Bishop.. the answer is..no one around these parts! I am not a Bishop Fan during the year, but right now they are the best in SGV hands down. I have watched sgv football for years. There may have been a small window where local SGV programs may have been able to play and keep it competetive with Bishop but that was about 15 – 20 years ago. We are talking about specific teams in a small window. Outside of Charter Oak last year, no one else in this era comes to mind. Now 15 years ago, the SGV was alot deeper. Maybe the 98 and 99 Daimond bar team with Dominic Robinson, or the Muir teams of the early 1990′s with Salludine McCullough and Andy Colbert and the 97 muir team with Sultan McCullough,Lashawn Ward, and Anthony Kelley, PHS with Lester Towns and Chris McCallister Monrovia teams of 97-99 with Micheal Ainsworth and Akil Harris. Or Duarte 92′ with Greg Ainsworth and company Or ol Chino and Ayala teams of the 99-00 or the los Altos teams with Shaun Cody. I am not saying they would have beat Bishop, but their chances of competing or winning went up when you have a few all state and all Americans on your team. A upset is possible, if those guys have a memorable legendary night. But even Back then Bishop Had even Better players, with Cory Minor, Delan McCutchen, Ralph Brown, Joey Gatheral…so it still would have been very unlikely. Today they don’t have those types of players and still manage to beat up on local sgv teams. You saw what they did to Walter Thurman one the best to play in the SGV… that says alot about what program reigns on top in our area. The point I am making is the SGV is not as deep as it used to be. With alot kids moving to the Inland empire and transfering every other week, has really shifted the balance of power these days. Los Osos, Hart, Valencia and Carson are the only 4 non pac five teams to beat bishop in the last 6 yrs. These teams are more powerful than anyone we have in the star news area. The depth and consistency in sgv programs has went down. The Tribune has Bishop ranked #1 for a good reason. Year in and year out they battle D1 teams and win games. No one else can say that in the SGV. There are alot of people in dreamland thinking that they can play with pac5 teams..yeah you can for a quarter of a half, but they wear you down. It’s nice to have heart and brass balls to go into keifer or invite Amat in to your place, but just know your up against a national power. They deserve respect and I rep Bishop on behalf of the SGV when I talk national with other highschool football people who know football. Teams like La Habra, Charter Oak, Bonita, San Dimas, Covina, Glendora, West Covina, Monrovia, South Hills, Rowland or St. Francis and we saw Muir last week etc. Don’t have the teams to compete in this era… Damien is the last hope for a local team to take them out….the Tribune Group has done a good job with the rankings so Far. Bishops on top, give the credit they deserve it. It’s a whole body of work, you have to consider.

  • Hey there Aaron

    Hey Aaron,
    I think you are underestimating how valuable GP is to that offence and I think that his return will greatly help the offence. By all accounts he had been working really hard in the off season and was headed for a super year.

  • Free Double Doubles and BBQ for this guy on Friday!

    Rankings Today vs 15 years ago:

    That was one of the best posts I’ve seen on this blog since…forever! Well said!

  • Dan

    Rankings Today, Your Quote,
    “There may have been a small window where local SGV programs may have been able to play and keep it competetive with Bishop but that was about 15 – 20 years ago. We are talking about specific teams in a small window. Outside of Charter Oak last year, no one else in this era comes to mind.”
    Last year despite missing 4 starters WC kept it 7 to 7 into the 3rd qtr and 14 to 7 till midway into the 4th, final score 21 to 7, I would call that competitive. Damien came to within 9 points of Amat, that would also be considered competitive, 2008 Diamond Ranch came within 17 to 9. As for CO they never came that close. At least give our other SGV teams a little credit. We’ll know a little more after Friday but so far This years WC team looks like it could be a great game if they played Amat. Other teams who were competitive with Amat were Glendora in 04, and in 02 both Damien and Ayala beat Amat.
    By the way the WC teams in Walter Thurmonds years did not play against Amat so I’m not sure what you ment by
    “You saw what Amat did to Walter Thurmond”

  • Aaron

    I’m not underestimating him at all. The offense will improve…I didn’t say by how much. I know GP, and he’ll be great, and still have a great although abbreviated season.

    Still need the running game to move the ball though.

  • misremembered

    I bet he meant Will Harris not Walter Thurmond

  • Who’s Afraid Of Amat???

    Today vs. 15 years ago and other Amat fans,
    I will give you the benefit that last years 10-2 team was good….but before that?? come on:
    2008 – 7-4
    2007 – 3-7
    2006 – 5-5
    2005 – 6-4
    2004 – 5-6
    That sure doesn’t look like a program of dominance to me. Especially since being a private school you can recruit from the whole San Gabriel Valley. No one is AFRAID to play your mighty Lancers. Terry Roche tried to schedule Amat when he was at Diamond Bar…they wouldn’t play him….when he was at Chino Hills, he tried to schedule them in ’05 & ’06…they wouldn’t play him. Colony tried to schedule them in ’07…Amat wouldn’t play them. I am tired about hearing all this hype about Amat. Their league is the weakest in the Pac5 and will do nothing in the playoffs. If your program was like Mater Dei, Servite, Mission Veijo, Orange Lu, Poly, etc…..I could see you bragging about dominance and people being afraid of you. One season of making it to the second round of the playoffs and beating a horible Garfield team is not impressive.

  • Amat Honk

    Who’s afraid? – I dont care if you’re tired of all the hype(?)! Let me ask this, In those years that you posted, how many of those losses were to SGV schools? Also of the teams that you posted as examples of “Good schools”(?) how many times during that span you mentioned did valley teams play ANY of those schools? That’s what I thought and THAT’S why AMAT is in your FACE so much!!!

  • Tired hearing about Amat BS

    Rankings 15 years ago —– ” It’s nice to have heart and brass balls to go into keifer or invite Amat in to your place, but just know your up against a national power.” ARE YOU SERIOUS??? Especially with the recent history of Amat’s program….a NATIONAL POWER??? Winning 1 playoff game in the last 6 years makes you a national power? What are you smokin’ brother ’cause I want some of that. Amat is a run down school with horrible facilities in a horrible area and they can recruit the whole SGV pretty much without competition (I wouldn’t consider Damien real competition) and they are still a non factor in the Pac 5……they will be done early this year too. They better hope they place first in their league or else they are one and done.

  • SGV

    Amat Honk,

    What hype ? it’s call bragging and people are questioning why ? when your record speaks volume. You have not done anything the past 10 to 15 years. The 80′s are over buddy, you need to earn respect for what you do now. Again, Amat does not shine and they don’t scare any of the top teams. Chino Hill, Glendora, Charter Oak, Los Osos, Damien and upland will play with you any-time, just a quick list. From what I heard Upland kicked your ass just a few weeks ago. Keep living with your 80′s football and your D5 baseball district 19 tittles.

  • Amat Honk

    Tired of Amat BS – You can suck Butt(er) too HATER! Damien is a barely audible ping on the football radar screen! And you know what? The only way that faint ping gets heard or noticed is “IF” they happen to pull a miricle out of gano’s @$$ and beat AMAT (HA!) or at least give them a game! You know why? Beacause AMAT football is BISHOP AMAT FOOTBALL!!!! Like it or not Butt Butter – Amat is NATIONALLY KNOWN. I know the AMAT Family is cringing at this post because the majority of them know that the gas you’re spewing is ridiculous and old (another local yokal tired of Amat getting all the print/hype/attention) so they just let the program do the talking and ignore saps like you two clowns that “are tired of Amat (boo hoo hoo)” TOUGH! We have been here for ever and we will continue to BANG THE FOOTBALL RADAR SCREEN! So you know what? If you’re tired now, you are going to be one unhappy, worn out, disgruntled and bitter @$$ oldman come the next 50+ years…. because we are NOT GOING ANYWHERE! GO AMAT! GO BIG BLUE!
    Sorry AMAT FAMILY but some of us are short fuses. All Apologies.

  • Beware of the delusional blogger!

    @ who’s afraid of Amat
    Thank you for responding. I am not your average blogger, who’s blog is based on emotion or delusion. I have played the game in high school here in the sgv and college. I blog to football fans who know football. I was going to put the information you provided. But instead I set the bait, and you took it. Lets look at what I said. Then I am going to use the information you provided, and give a in depth analysis on why I wrote what I did, in “Rankings today vs 15 years ago”. To clear up my credibility. I did make a mistake regarding Walter thurmond. I was thinking about him when I thought about teams who could have possibly upset the lancers. He was a player that could have gave Bishop fits.

    1. I am not a Bishop Fan. I don’t like them personally.
    2. I never said anyone was afraid to play Bishop.
    3. I never said Bishop was the best in the Pac. I just said they were the best in the SGV!

    I hear your arguments about Bishop not playing people or they recruit Blah Blah Blah. Bishop Recriuts but loses to Public schools from other areas like Hart, Valencia Los Osos, LB Poly. So What’s your point..Private schools recruit in all areas.. Besides if you read the paper, you will see players also leave bishop. When lower division teams schedule Bishop Amat they everything to gain and nothing to lose. If they win, they go to #1 in there division, crowned the best team in that schools history. If they lose, they still get rewarded for playing them. If Bishop losses, they lose their ranking in Pac 5 or LA times if they are ranked. If they win, nothing happens. When teams play Bishop its the Marquee Game of the Decade for them, but for Bishop its just another game. They have Mater Dei, Crespi Pac 5 to worry about. Just keep that in Mind. Bishop’s weak pac 5 league would beat just about every team in the SGV. Name a Lower division team that would win that league. Finally Look at Bishops record against SGV Teams. Almost beating them is a moral victory, but for the most part, its been domination. The Bishop Program the last 5 years has been not so good compared to 15 years ago when I played. Maybe the worst its been. They are in the Pac 5 for a reason. But to help you think straight… since 04 Bishop is 17-0 vs Lower Division SGV schools. Prove me wrong with facts!

    Season04-05
    Record6-6
    Sgv Defeated Teams
    Glendora 21-13
    Charter Oak 28-0
    Damien 41-27

    Season 05-06
    Record 6-4
    Sgv Defeated Teams
    Glendora 31-6
    Charter Oak 34-7
    Damien 31-3

    Season 06-07
    Record5-5
    Sgv Defeated Teams
    St Francis 29-28
    **Rancho Cucamonga** not sgv but we know them. 27-17

    Season 07-08
    Record 3-7 **worst year in last 20 years**
    Sgv Defeated Teams
    St Paul 31-30
    **Rancho Cucamonga** 21-7

    Season 08-09
    Record 7-4 Lost to Long Beach Poly 17-21
    Sgv Defeated Teams
    West Covina 42-6
    Damien 47-26
    Diamond Ranch 17-6
    St Francis 28-13

    Season 09-10
    Record 10-2
    Sgv Defeated teams
    West Covina 21-7
    Damien 29-20
    Diamond Ranch 41-13
    St Paul 38-6

    Season 10-11
    Record 3-0
    SGV Defeated teams
    Muir 34-14

    YOU CAN NOT ARGUE WITH THESE STATS…THEY HAVE EARN THE RIGHT TO BE CALLED # ONE IN OUR AREA…I DON’T LIKE IT, YOU DON’T LIKE IT, BUT WHEN YOU REPORT, AND TALK FOOTBALL WITH PEOPLE WHO KNOW FOOTBALL … YOU MUST MAN UP, LOOK AT TEAMS FOR WHAT THEY ARE, AND DEAL WITH REALITY. IF I AM PLAYING BISHOP AND I AM FROM SGV…. I WOULD TELL MY PLAYERS, WERE GOING FOR THE BIG BOY, THE BEST TEAM, IT’S THE GAME OF LIFE TIME. THAT’S WHAT GANO WILL SAY FRIDAY NIGHT IN THE LOCKER ROOM, THAT’S WHAT GARFIELD, MUIR AND DOMINGUEZ SAID IN THE WEEKS PRIOR. SORRY TO HURT YOUR FEELINGS.

  • Amat Honk

    SGV – Who was bragging? I believe the post was a response and it wasn’t even posted by an Amat Fan? But nooooo, you need to come on here and add your non-sense! Of the schools you mentioned Los Osos is the only school with a winning record against AMAT. The rest are punks who won’t even schedule AMAT. Let’s wait and see IF Damien reschedules, I bet they don’t? The current AMAT team is Young and getting better and better by the week. We will see if the powerhouse schools you mentioned will be lining up to schedule AMAT over the next few years? “I heard Upland Kicked you ass just a few weeks ago.” Really? I heard you were really a girl, does that make it true? Upland was a scrimmage punk, oh wait, you’re one of those football geniuses who thinks that somebody actually WINS a scrimmage right? If so, then enough said on that. Oh, and really, The 80′s are over? Thanks for the update but I must have been confused by the fact that AMAT kicked local @$$ in the 80′s and they are still wearin that @$$ out now!!! Kinda hard to tell the difference :) GO AMAT LANCERS!
    I really should stop now…
    but I can’t, having too much fun with the local yokals, HA, HA, HA, HA……

  • Beware of the delusional blogger!

    @ who’s afraid of Amat
    Thank you for responding. I am not your average blogger, who’s blog is based on emotion or delusion. I have played the game in high school here in the sgv and college. I blog to football fans who know football. I was going to put the information you provided. But instead I set the bait, and you took it. Lets look at what I said. Then I am going to use the information you provided, and give a in depth analysis on why I wrote what I did, in “Rankings today vs 15 years ago”. To clear up my credibility. I did make a mistake regarding Walter thurmond. I was thinking about him when I thought about teams who could have possibly upset the lancers. He was a player that could have gave Bishop fits.

    1. I am not a Bishop Fan. I don’t like them personally.
    2. I never said anyone was afraid to play Bishop.
    3. I never said Bishop was the best in the Pac. I just said they were the best in the SGV!

    I hear your arguments about Bishop not playing people or they recruit Blah Blah Blah. Bishop Recriuts but loses to Public schools from other areas like Hart, Valencia Los Osos, LB Poly. So What’s your point..Private schools recruit in all areas.. Besides if you read the paper, you will see players also leave bishop. When lower division teams schedule Bishop Amat they everything to gain and nothing to lose. If they win, they go to #1 in there division, crowned the best team in that schools history. If they lose, they still get rewarded for playing them. If Bishop losses, they lose their ranking in Pac 5 or LA times if they are ranked. If they win, nothing happens. When teams play Bishop its the Marquee Game of the Decade for them, but for Bishop its just another game. They have Mater Dei, Crespi Pac 5 to worry about. Just keep that in Mind. Bishop’s weak pac 5 league would beat just about every team in the SGV. Name a Lower division team that would win that league. Finally Look at Bishops record against SGV Teams. Almost beating them is a moral victory, but for the most part, its been domination. The Bishop Program the last 5 years has been not so good compared to 15 years ago when I played. Maybe the worst its been. They are in the Pac 5 for a reason. But to help you think straight… since 04 Bishop is 17-0 vs Lower Division SGV schools. Prove me wrong with facts!

    Season04-05
    Record6-6
    Sgv Defeated Teams
    Glendora 21-13
    Charter Oak 28-0
    Damien 41-27

    Season 05-06
    Record 6-4
    Sgv Defeated Teams
    Glendora 31-6
    Charter Oak 34-7
    Damien 31-3

    Season 06-07
    Record5-5
    Sgv Defeated Teams
    St Francis 29-28
    **Rancho Cucamonga** not sgv but we know them. 27-17

    Season 07-08
    Record 3-7 **worst year in last 20 years**
    Sgv Defeated Teams
    St Paul 31-30
    **Rancho Cucamonga** 21-7

    Season 08-09
    Record 7-4 Lost to Long Beach Poly 17-21
    Sgv Defeated Teams
    West Covina 42-6
    Damien 47-26
    Diamond Ranch 17-6
    St Francis 28-13

    Season 09-10
    Record 10-2
    Sgv Defeated teams
    West Covina 21-7
    Damien 29-20
    Diamond Ranch 41-13
    St Paul 38-6

    Season 10-11
    Record 3-0
    SGV Defeated teams
    Muir 34-14

    YOU CAN NOT ARGUE WITH THESE STATS…THEY HAVE EARN THE RIGHT TO BE CALLED # ONE IN OUR AREA…I DON’T LIKE IT, YOU DON’T LIKE IT, BUT WHEN YOU REPORT, AND TALK FOOTBALL WITH PEOPLE WHO KNOW FOOTBALL … YOU MUST MAN UP, LOOK AT TEAMS FOR WHAT THEY ARE, AND DEAL WITH REALITY. IF I AM PLAYING BISHOP AND I AM FROM SGV…. I WOULD TELL MY PLAYERS, WERE GOING FOR THE BIG BOY, THE BEST TEAM, IT’S THE GAME OF LIFE TIME. THAT’S WHAT GANO WILL SAY FRIDAY NIGHT IN THE LOCKER ROOM, THAT’S WHAT GARFIELD, MUIR AND DOMINGUEZ SAID IN THE WEEKS PRIOR. SORRY TO HURT YOUR FEELINGS.

  • Amat Honk

    Hello? Hello? Can you here me now? Can you here me Now? The silence is deafening in here. Wait what was that? Oh never mind, some one dropped a pin.

  • AMAT 73

    Yes I also am tired of hearing all this bs on AMAT vs the world . National power no way at one time yes 1992 to be exact and a few other years in there . You are now hearing how AMAT is rundown the fields are full of weeds , the paint is chipping off the buildings ,and now the kicker that we have horrible facilities despite the fact of the state of the art 5 million dollar student center. It seems now that our team is doing well that avenue to knock AMAT on football is closing so the focus is on the location and the look of the school even though with a La Puente zip code West Covina is across the street.What’s next the crickets chirp to loud at night at AMAT. Do I wish a lot of the AMAT honks would fighting a losing battle yes but I also wish those keeping the fires of the battle would stop also . Now since we all know that is never going to happen why don’t you just ignore the AMAT honks as we ignore a biggest hater .
    WC Dan,
    I for one do wish we would have the game this year . Your Bulldogs are for real as I went on record at the beginning of season that with the QB and much experience in big games they would be a force. Good luck tomorrow because that will be one heck of a battle and if you win you should move to number 2 no doubt.

  • Dan

    Rankings today/ Beware delusional blogger,
    I can agree with most of your last post, where you went wrong was claiming that no team could be competitive with Amat in the last 15 to 20 years, yet the fact is there has been competitive games with Amat as recently as last year. Can any local team be at Amats level year in and year out? History shows otherwise, but if the right match up at the right time is made an upset is possible in any given year.

  • SGV

    Amat Honk,

    Why are you so angry ? truth hurt’s. All you Amat people have been on this blog bragging and talking like you play for a CIF tittle every-year. Now that everyone is calling you out as the freaking loosers that you turned out to be, you get a bit pissed. That’s some funny shit, you have 1 playoff appearance in ten year’s and now you’re a national power, keep dreaming. Like someone posted, your a crappy little school, not sure why you consider Amat a great place, the school sucks, the area sucks, and you shine my ass. I would have more to say about the people that have attended Amat, but I like my gardener. Nuff said a$$hole.

  • Dan

    Amat 73,
    Thanks for the good words and good luck to the boys in blue tommorow night.

  • Beware of the Delusional Blogger

    Upland, Los Osos might be the only schools discussed who beat or could beat of challenge Bishop on a regular. My dreams is to see Lower Division SGV Schools grow as a whole, and spread the balance of power. Not to make Bishop the end all be all, I do see some coaching staffs and teams doing so great things up in the SGV,… In my Opinion these are the coaches and programs on the rise and slowly taking baby steps..and in ten years will be great names.

    Charter Oak-moving up a division.. they proved what they had too, now they moved up. They will take some lumps but it was either move up or have every future tittle with a comment-*they should be in higher division- lol

    San Dimas-Winning a title in 09 and scheduling up…they are going to take sum lumps but that will be good for them…

    Monrovia-Getting the Facilities and schedule up. Maddox will get his tittle, then they can move to the pacific and replace Glendale or hoover…

    Azusa- Thier staff has change the culture, they are winning games. A Mid Valley semis run would solidify their stake as a area power…

    West Covina-They have won titles this decade, they soon will have to move up a division.

    La Habra-They stepped up and played pac 5. they are slowly becoming a household name.

    Glendora- they have step up into a new league, if they can win that league, they would be 2nd best to Bishop every year

    Chino Hills- they need to win a title, but they are getting better and better… They need to play bishop and Bishop should play them.

    Covina- They are looking good… they are going to have 2-3 good years with Livingston coming back next year and Ainsworth for 2 more. They must build on that.

  • Beware of the Delusional Blogger

    My whole point from the beginning, is that amat is not the team it used be 15 years ago and they still manage to handle SGV oppenents very well. Now when it comes to playing teams that are equal to them, I think they have not been impressive. But out of th 17 games since 04 only five games were competetive. That means the 70% of the games were blow out and 100% were victories. I was only trying display the difference between Pac 5 Ball and locol SGV ball. That’s all I did not intend to create bishop as the best team in the world. But if you are ranked in LA times, you are nationally known.

  • SGV FOOTBALL

    Aram,

    No love for the CO Chargers this week going out to play Rancho???? At least a two minute drill for the fans heading out to the IE would nice.

  • Unreal…

    SGV,

    Pat Haden is your Gardner…

    That’s a smart Gardner.

    Your a moron for trying to disparage the education I received at Bishop Amat. I give the school, and my parents for paying the tuition, all the credit in the world for preparing me for the real world while at the same time creating a family atmosphere that a public school could never replicate.

    Thank you for hating on us… It shows me we are doing something right.

    “Surely resentment destroys the fool, and jealousy kills the simple.”
    Job 5:2

    GO AMAT!!!

  • SGV Football is Weak

    Amat Fans…..congratulations….you are ranked #1 in the SGV…..that doesn’t meant crap. When was the last time a team from the SGV played in a state championship? The # 1 team in the SGV..AMAT…has won 1 playoff game in the last 6 years. That’s like Pee wee Herman proclaiming himself as the toughest dude at kindercare. SGV football sucks compared to orange co., Inland empire, and LA. SGV football is the weakest football in So. Cal except maybe the desert. So go on and talk about your bad selves. You know you clowns are not for real. Nationally known program my ass…..maybe because one of your priests got caught with his hand in the nookie jar maybe. You cannot seriously think you are in the same class of football program as Mission Viejo, Long Beach Poly, Corona Centenniel, Norco, Servite, etc. REALLY????? Mayber 20 years ago…not today!

  • SGV

    unreal,

    The answer is No, Haden is my pool man, Mckay is the gardner. Get it right stupid. You had to reach back to the old days AGAIN, that’s what you do best. You still suck…….

  • TOO HOT FOR YOU

    SGV not SGV FOOTBALL,
    SGV FOOTBALL this post is not directed to you but the fool now posting as SGV and SGV Fan. What happened , it got too hot for you over on Fred’s blog that you have to come over here with all your piss and vinegar on Amat. I see you are dodging your ring senario so I guess I shut your trap on that one. I told you to think before you opening that shiat hole you have for a mouth . To correct you, we have more than 1 playoff appearence in the last 10 years considering we have gone 2 years in row now. Who is it you stand behind so we can see how bad we kicked your school’s ass the last time we played you and know why you hate so much . You see you want to come on here and just knock Amat but always fail to say who you rep . Do you rep the whole SGV as the wise and powerful sgvbest does. I know you are not a CO honk because they have more class then that to come on here with the bs you throw out . So who is it or are you ashamed of it. Now as far as that shining of your ass I told the only thing we will do with your ass is kick it up and down the football field .

  • Let’s get real!

    Beware of the delusional blogger – Lets take a look at your long winded post with all the years and the teams from the San Gabriel Valley Amat beat with some more interesting facts like the teams they beat records those years.

    Season04-05 * Record *
    Record6-6
    Sgv Defeated Teams
    Glendora 21-13 8-3
    Charter Oak 28-0 8-4
    Damien 41-27 2-8

    Season 05-06
    Record 6-4
    Sgv Defeated Teams
    Glendora 31-6 7-4
    Charter Oak 34-7 8-4
    Damien 31-3 5-5

    Forgot St. Paul 5-5

    Season 06-07
    Record5-5
    Sgv Defeated Teams
    St Francis 29-28 6-5
    **Rancho Cucamonga** not sgv but we know them. 27-17 5-5
    Forgot so. Hills 6-6
    Forgot st. paul 6-6

    Season 07-08
    Record 3-7 **worst year in last 20 years**
    Sgv Defeated Teams
    St Paul 31-30 10-4
    **Rancho Cucamonga** 21-7 4-6
    **LOST to LOS OSOS

    Season 08-09
    Record 7-4 Lost to Long Beach Poly 17-21
    Sgv Defeated Teams
    West Covina 42-6 10-3
    Damien 47-26 3-7
    Diamond Ranch 17-6 7-7
    St Francis 28-13 6-5

    Season 09-10
    Record 10-2
    Sgv Defeated teams
    West Covina 21-7 7-5
    Damien 29-20 5-6
    Diamond Ranch 41-13 7-7
    St Paul 38-6 3-7

    Season 10-11
    Record 3-0
    SGV Defeated teams
    Muir 34-14 1-2

    Sooooo, let’s take a look at this so called dynasty :
    – Only 8 of the 22 SGV teams Amat has beaten since ’04 had a winning record..WOW! That is dominance. Just shows how weak SGV football is if you say Amat is DOMINATING the whole valley….keep dreaming that you are a big boy school…LOL
    – total combined records of SGV teams Amat has played since ’04 = 128 wins – 112 losses for a impressive 53% winning percentage. HAHAHAHAHA!

    The facts don’t lie…you wanted to bring up your dominance….I played your game…I sure as hell wouldn’t be bragging about that scheduling!

    San Gabriel Valley football Is WEAK!!!

  • SGV

    To hot for you,

    You want to know who I stand for, I stand behind you, look over your shoulder once in a while you pillow bitter. This is getting old and pointless, since you can’t take it when called out. You and Amat honk, and the rest of you loosers. I am just messing with you and putting you in your place. This is about you idiots and your best of everything bullshit, and all the crap you post,nothing against the current athletes now wearing your colors. Out of respect for those kids I am calling it a day. Best of luck to them, YOU on the other hand, still a looossseeerrrr.

  • JUST WHAT I THOUGHT

    SGV,
    Just what I thought I would get back from you . I guess you understand third time is the charm. Once when you attended school that you are ashamed to mention and now twice on the blog = three ass kickings at the hands of Amat. We may not be all that like you say but we have enough to deal with punk ass posters like your type . Now go back home and cry to mama little boy . I can take all you can throw it’s you who got sent home crying . Your calling it day cause you just got punked, at least be honest about that. To steal a line from Norco BAH, BAH, BAH, WAH, WAH, WAH .

  • Hold up Brother

    @SGV football is weak.
    First off…if sgv football is sooooo weak, what the hell you doing on our blog…go find somewhere else to talk your ish. We must not be too shabby for you to be interested in reading what we have to say .. Second your not too smart at comparing areas. San Gabriel Valley is a small section of Los Angeles county. Comparing us to Orange county would be stupid. Also the inland empire consist of San Bernadino County and Riverside county. How could tiny SGV compete with those conglemrates. Despite being small, SGV football has put out a large amount of pro football players. Not to mention numerous D1 Starters and players who played in college…. So we are doing somethings right…Get out of here with that nonsense…

    Pro players from the SGV and I am sure i missed some

    Richard Bell Muir
    Darick Holmes Muir
    Anthony Miller Muir
    Chad Brown muir
    Ricky Irvins Muir
    Marcus Robertson Muir
    Sultan Mccullough
    Dylan Mccutcheon Amat
    Ralph Brown Amat
    Eric Bieniemy Amat
    Troy Auzenne Amat
    John Jackson Amat
    John Mckay Amat
    William Robinson Amat
    KOry Minor Amat
    Brian Russell Amat
    Ryan Smith Amat
    JOhn Sciarra Amat
    Walter Thurman West Covina
    Jason David Charter Oak
    Damien Shelton Duarte
    Nate Jaquet Duarte
    Lawrence Phillips Baldwin Park
    Cedric Ellis Chino
    Shaun Cody loss altos
    Kieth Licoln Monrovia
    Roy Zimmerman Monrovia
    Fair Hooker Monrovia
    Chris Hale Monrovia
    Damien Griffith Monrovia
    Clay Mathews Arcadia
    Bruce Mathews Arcadia
    Chris McCallister PHS
    James Wilks PHS
    Mario Clark PHS
    Kim Anderson PHS
    Chidi IWuoma PHS
    Ian Johnson Damien
    Dennis Shaw Damien
    Steve Busick Temple City
    Luis Zendejas Don Lugo
    Brett Lockett Daimond Bar
    Jason Wright Daimond Bar
    Donte Nichlson Daimond Bar
    Ryan Windell Daimond Bar
    Bill Bain St Pual
    Matt Willig St Pual
    Dan McGwire Claremont
    Gary Zimmerman Walnut High
    Tom Mcbride Walnut High
    Daryll Lewis Nogales
    Jimmy Verdon pomona high
    Dalanie Walker Pomona High
    Hamza Abdullah Pomona High
    Husai Abdullah Pomona High
    Dave Farmer Workman high
    Bob Chandler Whittier high
    George Buehler Whitter high
    K.C.Asiodu Ayala high
    Sam Paulescu Whittier Chritstian
    Leo Carroll Alhambra high

  • Amat Honk

    Lets get real – Who said ANYTHING about a dynasty? The original “long winded post” was in response to SGV’s comments! You only prove the point. When the local boys scheduled AMAT they got beat by AMAT. I don’t care what their record was for the year! THEY GOT BEAT! I dont care who was having a good year or who was having a bad year! The bottom line, once again is…. they got BEAT by AMAT! No talk of hail to Amat, the Dynasty, the King of the valley etc, etc, that was your own insecurities pushing you in that direction. Get real and SGV were the BOZO’s blowin Gas and they gotten straightened out by the NON-AMAT FAN with facts!!! Give credit where credit is due. Then get real came on with some lame diversion to……you know what, who cares! I’m out!

  • Aaron

    Your list is incomplete.

    DJ Hackett San Dimas
    Glenn Davis Bonita

    These two are the ones I know.

  • Correction

    In response to Rankings Today vs 15 years ago

    You stated that this Muir team would have gave Amat a game:
    97 muir team with Sultan McCullough,Lashawn Ward, and Anthony Kelley

    Well,they did play that year and Amat tapped that A$$ 42-14. Sultan was not even the best running back in the game.

  • We only have one so please inlcude

    Lionel Manual Super Bowl (NY Giants)champion WR from BASSETT High School.

  • SGV

    Just what I thought,

    If you really need to know, I graduated from AMAT. I am embarrased by your comments and the way you and the other idiot bloggers act. Like I said earlier, I wanted to shut you up, not everyone at AMAT thinks like you and I know most of the alumni hate reading the crap you put up. Find something to do, stay of this blog. Get a real job…..

  • Let’s go back to the stone ages

    Hold up brother,
    That list goes back to the stone ages….lol. I am not impressed. If you look at that list it equals about 2-3 “players” a year. That was then….this is now. The SGV doesn’t produce nearly as many D 1 players as the inland empire of OC it’s mainly due to lack of talent or grades. How many CIF champs will come from the SGV this year???? only the ones in those weak divisions made entirely of SGV teams. How many SGV will represent CIF in a state bowl game???? None…just like every year. LOL good thing you all have this little blog to make yourselves feel better about your crappy football. Cpme on, the MIGHTY azusa football team (really???), Bishop Amat who won’t make it past the 2nd round, Charter Oak who will be 1 and done in the inland division, West Co. who would get abused by disciplined OC teams, etc, etc, etc……… The facts speak for themselves….SGV football is WEAK.

  • Amat Honk

    Hey Stoney, lay off the pipe!!! Give us a chance to retort, who is your team? And One: Do they have any History to talk about and Two: Why is that you clowns that bash people for Having history – NEVER HAVE ANY! Name me one team that has CONSISTANTLY, YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT, won their respective Divisions, Championships and State Championships, YOU CAN’T, HUH? It sounds pretty STUPID to ask right? JUST LIKE YOU SOUND STUPID SAYING “THE PAST IS ALL YOU GOT”. The fact of the matter is that NOT ALL SCHOOLS HAVE A PAST! And the ones that do and still compete at a high level are Damn proud of that past too! Everybody wants to be a winner and be the champion CLOWN but obviously there is only one per year. Some never even come close. This is true in the upper divisions and even in the lower levels brainiac. You have to have winners and losers and you have to seperate these teams into levels of competition, you following me there genius? The lower teams of each level may be able to transcend into (or out of) levels on any given year BUT there are those that have been in the UPPER LEVELS SINCE THE BEGINNING and that is longevity and (here it comes) HISTORY/PAST! Your damn right I talk about the past…BECAUSE WE (AMAT) HAVE ONE!!(just like some others) But I also talk about the present and in the present we are still competing at the highest level and we are still a FOOTBALL PROGRAM with a WICKED DEEP history of TRADITION AND EXCELLENCE!! Like it or not, I really don’t care because…..WE! ARE! AMAT!

  • AMAT 73

    SGV,
    You may or may not have graduated from AMAT but I can say you defintely are not a LANCER. There is a difference and if I have to explain it to you that is the proof . Why come on here and join the haters to keep the flame of the mindless AMAT honks who don’t get it . To prove a point . What point is that ? You could have done a better job by just coming on here and posting your disdain for that type of AMAT honk that we have been trying to snuff out . They are of this nation bs going around type that many of us fought to drown out. WE ARE FAMILY . Join our club instead being in their club . Because what you did is just as bad as their mindless bragging. Now I am all for banter between schools facing each other but when someone crosses the line to degrade our school and what it stands for is another subject all together. You prodded and prodded until you got what you wanted. Now you want to say you wanted to shut them up as you are an alum and they embarrass the alumni . Well you did the same thing by lower yourself to their level. Don’t know what year you graduated but if you are a dinosaur or old man as they sometimes call me you need to go back and walk the halls and refresh what at one time made you proud to be a LANCER and maybe next time you will speak as if you really are one. Now if you want to blast me for this post fine but I had to get that off my chest because you embarrassed me by your last post and by my screen name you know where I stand and for who.

  • SGV

    AMAT 73,

    No blasting necessary, point well taken. I am done with the Honk and the rest of the idiot nation.

  • Amat Honk

    I will TRY to tone it down but I only have two cheeks and once they’ve both been slapped I have no choice but to fight back. Not trying to embarass anyone from the Family but I can only take so much. It’s a work in progress and like many, I often digress, but, as Jules said in Pulp Fiction…”I’m tryin real hard to be the shepherd.” If I can’t be that then I will have to settle for some type of Amat Family “Dark Knight” (ha, ha).

  • Amat is Ghetto

    Bishop Amat is like every other private school. They think they are better than everyone else. They look down on other people and other schools. I graduated from Corona Centennial class of ’09 and we knew how to play ball. Coach Logan taught us to respect the game and to be humble. We were taught that our actions on the field spoke much more than the words coming out of our mouths. I don’t need to come on here and put down other schools or tell people how great we were because our records stand for themselves. Like my father always said, if you have to tell other people how good you are…you probably aren’t that good. I read this blog and laugh. I wonder how many fools on here even played the game. A lot of guys on here are disrespecting the game with the crap they are saying.

  • AMAT 73

    AMAT Honk,
    I can understand as I used to get into it when the blog first started .Then I realized by doing it I was just as bad. But hey we all live and learn . If you think about it you still have 2 other cheeks ( oh no I’m starting to sound like Jcaz ) . Have a great time tonight and let’s hope the MEN in BLUE do the work and stay focused. GO AMAT , WE WILL SHINE TONIGHT !!!!!!!!

  • SGV

    I just notice the picture of the Glendora coaches, was this taken during halftime ? They look like they are doing the Scottish sword dance… HA HA
    Good luck to all the team in the SGV playing tonight, play hard and injury free. Respect the game and have fun.

  • Titanic

    Colt74 said:

    Where to start…..

    Titanic : I think the only thing over rated is your imagination that Walnut will beat Covina.

    Oh, and what an imagination I have…

    Covina = over rated
    Covina = over rated
    Covina = over rated
    Covina = over rated

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