Chew on this …

The offseason uproar in the Mid-Valley Division was about the addition of the Almont League and how it was unfair because the Almont had six of the seven highest enrollments in the division.

BUT!!!!!

One round into the playoffs and it’s the SMALLEST league (in terms of enrollment) that’s dominating the Mid-Valley. That’s right, the Olympic League is 3-0. Interesting …

  • Schurr

    Schurr still beats Monrovia and takes the title.

  • Colt74

    I’m just throwing this out for discussion. The Olympic is made up of private schools. Why would anyone be surprised that they are doing good against public schools? Do a search on public vs private in sports and you will have enough reading material for 6 months minimum. South Carolina and a few other states do not let public and private compete in playoffs. Other states weigh private schools and make them play in a division higher. If public verses private in sports is not such a perceived problem then why so many discussions on it and states making adjustments to separate the two in terms of sports? Until public schools are allowed to openly solicit any kid from any area there will always be an advantage, however big or small, to the private. There IS an upside to this too…How sweet is it when a public beats a private?
    I think public should play public and private play private but last time I checked CIF doesn’t listen to me. But in terms of how surprised anyone should be because a private league is doing good…I think about as surprised as waking up tomorrow and knowing that the sun was still there. And before anyone can come up with an argument like why are they not good every year…why is not Amat good every year? Why is not South Hills good every year? All teams have ups and downs. My 27 cents.

  • Colt74

    I hit submit instead of preview on last post so this did not get added.
    Whittier Christian only has an enrollment of less than 650 kids. That is pretty amazing. Less than half of what Covina has. Those kids and coaches need to be given the utmost respect and props. That is one hell of a job they are doing over there.

  • Schurr Beats Monrovia….

    I hope you will be at the game Friday Night. Schurr will not beat Monrovia. My question is how? They struggle with Bell Gardens, and Montebello. Then lost to San Gabriel, well I guess that game woke up a sleeping giant huh! First of all, Monrovia Avg more ydrs per game,Mor points and allows less points then Schurr. Next Monrovia is at home, Next, Bueno is the best player on the Field, when the offense is out there. You know He is going to get his 200 Rushing and 130 passing. Next, Ellis McCarthy, the Best athlete on the Field when the Defense out there. You know he is going to make it hard for Cantu to throw,and Gonzales to run. He requires a triple team. He will get his 1 sack, 6 tackles, and 30 hurries. Next, Monrovia’s Oline is better than yours. You want to know what else. We only have 2 players going both ways(doesn’t Gonzales Go both ways?). Our WR’s/DB’s are big and fast, Our line is Big and Mobile. We are going to wear you down. Our Defensive better than yours. I just don’t see where you see that schurr is going to win? Please give some insight on how you came up with that.

  • Public vs Private

    Colt74,

    I will have to disagree.If we were talking Basketball or Baseball where you have 12-20 players. Yes if you have 2 7fters every year or 3 pitchers who throw 95+…maybe. Football doesn’t work like that. You are talking about 50+ kids. Private schools can’t give 50 scholarships. Year end and out good public schools get top players for free every year. Winning is School specific, not public vs private. Its programs. Chew on this…
    Look at Number one School in CIF Divisions left in playoffs in 2010. Aslo Public schools have more titles than private schools. Private schools have to recruit. They don’t have a district nor neighborhood. That does not mean private schools will walk out there and win. Mater dei, Bishop, or Servite do not have more wins or title than LB Poly. What’s Rio Hondo’s advantage over Covina. Did not Chino Hills beat Tesoro and bishop couldn’t? Actually Private schools put out less D1 talent than public. Private schools lose players to better public schools. Private schools have bad years too. If your in a division, that’s where you are base upon program sucess. Why isn’t Pasadena poly in the Pac five. Why is muir in the southeast instead of the midvalley? They only have 1300 students. If you lose for 20 year or win for 20 years its because your program is good or it is not during any span of time!

    Pac 5
    1.Mission Viejo(public)

    Inland
    1.Corona Centennial(public)

    Mid Valley
    1.Morovia(public)

    Central
    1.Rancho Verde(public)

    Eastern
    1. Kaiser(public)

    East Valley
    1. Paraclete(That’s two)

    Northeast
    1. Bishop Union(public)

    Northern
    1. Oaks Christian(that’s one)

    Northwest
    1. Lompoc(public)

    SouthEast
    1 West Covina(public)

    Southern
    1. Garden Grove(public)

    SouthWest
    1. La Habra(public)

    Western
    1. Serra(That’s three)

  • WCHS

    Colt74

    You hit it on the head regarding public vs private.

    Good luck to the Colts, I’m looking forward to a great and safe game. This is one that either team can win.

  • Colt74

    Public vs Private
    How many Private schools verses Public schools are there in the state of California? So taking the sheer overwhelming numbers of public schools into consideration would mean that any advantages for a private should be negated? If a league had 4 public and 1 private school, and the private could bring in kids from any area would that by itself be an advantage? This is a never ending battle of back and forth and MY solution to it would be to let ALL schools ( public or private ) let any kid in that wants to go there. They would have to live in the school area for at least 6 weeks before the start of the sport. They can only transfer 1 time in High school and play sports. If they play football at one school they could not transfer to another school and play sports for that school for the remaining of that year. Do that and the public/private discussions and the recruiting finger pointing go away.
    I’m sure if you go to most private schools and look at their sports rosters you could find what some people would call a “ringer” that was brought in from out of the area. What do you think would be the percentage of public schools that would be the same? I agree 100% that a public school for the most part has a bigger crop of kids to choose from but lets just take Bishop Amat for an example. Look at the entire football roster and tell me with a straight face that the majority of those players PRIMARY reason for going to Amat was for an education. Now I’m not begrudging Amat one bit. If I had the chance to send my kid who was an exceptional athlete to BA verses Covina I’d be a blue and gold blogger in a heartbeat. Private schools for the most part have a higher per student family income so a private school would not need to give 50+ scholarships..but if they even gave 1 to bring in a “ringer” than would that not be an advantage? Again, do my fix and the problem is no more.

  • SpartanAlum86

    @ “Schurr Beats Monrovia…. said:”

    Its simple: Monrovia lost to San Dimas, San Dimas lost to Baldwin Park. Schurr walked over a Baldwin Park team that was never in the game. In a nutshell Schurr beat the team, that beat “the” team.

    Thats why the old cliche says, the games are won on the field. And thats why I love watching high school football. Its one of the few games where one kid can change the outcome of a game by showing a lot of heart and determination.

    So good luck to both teams.

    And Spartans, strap your helmets on tight and go show Monrovia what Spartan football is all about. With a lot of hard work and a little luck, this a perfectly winable game. Dont be taken in by all the Monrovia hype.

    And as far as public vs private. I remember when there was a time in the 80′s (i think) where public and privates didnt play each other. And there was always a dicussion of who was “best”. And now that they do play each other people cry “unfair”. As a long time high school football fan, its funny to see how that pendulum swings back and forth.

    In my opinion, keep it the way it is. And may the best team win. But, like Colt74, CIF doesnt listen to me either…lol!

  • SpartanAlum86

    @ “Schurr Beats Monrovia…. said:”

    Its simple: Monrovia lost to San Dimas, San Dimas lost to Baldwin Park. Schurr walked over a Baldwin Park team that was never in the game. In a nutshell Schurr beat the team, that beat “the” team.

    Thats why the old cliche says, the games are won on the field. And thats why I love watching high school football. Its one of the few games where one kid can change the outcome of a game by showing a lot of heart and determination.

    So good luck to both teams.

    And Spartans, strap your helmets on tight and go show Monrovia what Spartan football is all about. With a lot of hard work and a little luck, this a perfectly winable game. Dont be taken in by all the Monrovia hype.

    And as far as public vs private. I remember when there was a time in the 80′s (i think) where public and privates didnt play each other. And there was always a dicussion of who was “best”. And now that they do play each other people cry “unfair”. As a long time high school football fan, its funny to see how that pendulum swings back and forth.

    In my opinion, keep it the way it is. And may the best team win. But, like Colt74, CIF doesnt listen to me either…lol!

  • Colt74

    @ “Schurr Beats Monrovia,
    Agree with what you said. As long as there is any perceived advantage someone is going to cry. Do my fix and let the best team win. One other thing I want to add…those states that make the privates play in a division higher…I don’t agree with that. That is overkill on a handicap. I’d be interested to hear as to why CIF went away from public vs public and private vs private. My guess is the small actual numbers of privates and the logistics nightmare of trying to pair and come up with number of games played being equal. And about favored in the Mid…I think every team in the dance right now has the same chance as anyone else. I think we are all evenly matched.

  • Schurr wont win!

    Firs off monrovia was on top by 21 points before blowing the lead so i dont think that will ever happen again if san dimas and monrovia play again.
    And if your going to compair scores and wins and losses then you must lose alot of bets! because some teams just match better with eachother and some can just out right play and beat everyone! and in the mid valley its not like that this year!
    Schurr beat BP for a couple reasons one because they were a spread team but coudle also out physical BP and BP being a team with not alot of speed but physical at the point same as schurr!
    Problems monrovia gives Schurr is TO MUCH SPEED! monrovia will spread out the D and run around and out run the schurr defense…
    final 30 – 14 monrovia on top

  • huh? so explain this one then

    Monrovia killed South Pas, who beat San Gabriel, who beat Schurr.

    Monrovia beat up on Paramount, who beat Downey, who beat Schurr.

  • also

    Also Monrovia/ beat Arcadia/ who beat Muir/ who beat San Gabriel/ who beat Schurr.

    Anyway none of that stuff matters. Just because Schurr beat BP Doe not mean that Schurr will Beat San Dimas. It boils down to match ups, and Monrovia is a bad match up for Schurr! Schurr is depending on Cantu to be able to whip it around the yard, but that is not going to happen. With Ellis and the D line after him, he is going to have a long nite. I expect Schurr to come out gunning, But monrovia is going to be able to get whatever they want. Does schurr have 4 good Dbs? Monrovia have 5 or 6 Good Wrs. They line backers got to keep it honest and respect Bueno, So…that leaves one on one’s on the outside. We will be the one’s left standing!

  • Colt74

    Covina which beat San Dimas which beat Morovia
    Covina which beat Baldwin Park which beat San Dimas which beat Monrovia
    Covina which beat West Covina which beat Glendora which beat Monrovia

    This is FUN!

    See what happens when you play who beat who……

  • Colt74

    Here, I saved you some time:

    Monrovia which beat Paramount which beat Downey which beat La Serna which beat Walnut which beat Covina which beat West Covina which beat Glendora which beat Monrovia

    Second verse…same as the first……

  • bigdog

    If My Aunt had a D**k she be my uncle. Its not who you have beaten it all about who you beat this week.

  • bigdog

    Schurr Beats Monrovia…. said:

    I hope you will be at the game Friday Night. Schurr will not beat Monrovia. My question is how? They struggle with Bell Gardens, and Montebello. Then lost to San Gabriel, well I guess that game woke up a sleeping giant huh! First of all, Monrovia Avg more ydrs per game,Mor points and allows less points then Schurr. Next Monrovia is at home, Next, Bueno is the best player on the Field, when the offense is out there. You know He is going to get his 200 Rushing and 130 passing. Next, Ellis McCarthy, the Best athlete on the Field when the Defense out there. You know he is going to make it hard for Cantu to throw,and Gonzales to run. He requires a triple team. He will get his 1 sack, 6 tackles, and 30 hurries. Next, Monrovia’s Oline is better than yours. You want to know what else. We only have 2 players going both ways(doesn’t Gonzales Go both ways?). Our WR’s/DB’s are big and fast, Our line is Big and Mobile. We are going to wear you down. Our Defensive better than yours. I just don’t see where you see that schurr is going to win? Please give some insight on how you came up with that

    Schurr leagues is tougher than monrovia league. monrovia should win on paper everything you said is true. Monrovia still has to go through schuur to get to the finals. So I hope you are ready for a bunch of slow and short hard hitting missle aimimng towards bueno and company.

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