Tribune’s Top 3 look to be in big trouble tonight …

NOTE: Here’s my column from Friday, in case you missed it.

There usually isn’t too much that the Bishop Amat, Charter Oak and West Covina high school football teams have in common.

Their fans like to argue about who would beat who in mythical matchups. They like to compare divisions, chide each other for past and current failures and downplay the others’ accomplishments. It’s all pretty healthy.

You know, the kind of stuff you’d see out of brothers and sisters.

There are a few people in the Valley like myself, who like to see all three do well, but we’re few and far between. Usually, being a fan of one prohibits you from being a fan of the others. Call it the trappings of success and tradition.

Well, tonight, all three teams and their followings will have something in common. They’ll all be playing way over their heads and wearing the title of prohibitive underdog when they take the field.

For Bishop Amat, the challenge is taking on a Servite team that’s defense is starting to be praised like the 1985 Chicago Bears.

For Charter Oak, it’s an opponent from Big VIII country named Roosevelt. No, not the Roosevelt you’re thinking of. The Roosevelt that plays out in Corona and has 67 players on its varsity roster.

For West Covina, the journey is to L.A. Valley College to face perennial power Loyola. The Bulldogs will be doing so without reigning Tribune Player of the Year Chris Solomon, who is sidelined with an ankle injury.

So there you have it, the top three teams in the Tribune area taking on Orange County’s top team, one of the Inland Empire’s top teams, and one of Southern California’s traditional powers. You can add more accolades to Servite, if you’d like. Everyone else is.
Situations like this aren’t rare for one or two Valley teams. Heck, even Arroyo took on Hart last year. But for the top three teams in the area to each be undertaking such monumental challenges on the same Friday night?

Well, I don’t recall that ever happening.

Because of the popularity of this newspaper’s blogs, the SGV is well known outside of what some people like to refer to as “our fishbowl.” I’ve heard on numerous occasions that the amount of coverage and notoriety given to SGV teams by the publication that covers them isn’t warranted. That’s probably true. But you can blame your own hometown newspaper if that’s how you feel.

Nonetheless, I’m not sure Servite fans really respect Amat. I’m not sure they view Amat the same way we do here. You see, in Orange County, 1995 was 16 years ago. In the SGV, it’s more like six months ago.

I am pretty sure that if you take a poll of the Roosevelt fans tonight, most of them will tell you they had no clue where Charter Oak was located until they exited the freeway. And West Covina? Well, Loyola fans might as well think they’re playing a team from out of state.

Somebody please pull off an upset.

Despite the Valley’s long track record of being able to produce shockers of epic magnitude, most of which in recent years have come from Amat, it doesn’t look like tonight will be the night. In fact, it could be downright ugly around 10 p.m.

Amat managed just 14 points, seven of which came in the closing minutes, against a Garfield team that Amat fans have spent the past week trying to sell the rest of the world on as being legit.

Charter Oak put up just 17 points against Glendora … but only three of them came in the second half when Glendora’s offense had been solved and everybody in the stadium was waiting for a dagger that never came.

West Covina had three coverage breakdowns against Covina, and if the same thing happens against Loyola’s receivers, we may see a running clock at some point.

I would like to think that our three best teams are good enough to take on such a daunting challenge, but I just don’t see it. The timing is off. They all have the coaching and probably the toughness to get the job done, but the talent disparity across the board looks to be too much in all three games.

Most people think my job is to sit here and homer for the local teams. I will be pulling for them, no doubt about it. But the other part of my job is to keep it real and maybe soften the blow by warning you that it may be a long, long night.

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  • New York

    Good luck to all three schools, and kudos for scheduling tough opponents like these.

    Charter Oak playing Roosevelt is the least daunting, because both teams are in the same division and Charter Oak is presumably at or near the top of their league while Roosevelt is toward the bottom of their league.

    Under Coach Haggerty, Bishop Amat has killed a few giants, although Servite is the biggest giant they have played thus far.

    WestCo probably wishes they had Solomon…who wouldn’t? Playing step up games is nothing new to WestCo, but they have not really won those games in the past. The real question: is WestCo on par with Mira Costa, a team who lost to Loyola by just a couple TDs.

  • Things are not Rosey for Roosevelt

    Charter Oak should have no problem with Roosevelt. Their best play maker, QB Aaron Crone, is injured and will not play. They don’t have much else. They are a far cry from the team they had last year. Their defense is very suspect. If Charter Oak struggles, they will fall in the rankings. Roosevelt is ranked too high and that is WITH Crone in the lineup.

  • reality

    lets be real: no Crone no offense! lets see if defense wins games. if they berly held up against glendora they will be in for a surprise tonight! CO 1-1 come midnight……….

  • Loyola Loyal

    Not sure what fantasy island yoyo from West Covina was thinking when he scheduled us but oh well. If you kids think you got bruised up last week against what, a division XII team or something just wait, you might not even be able to field a team next week lol. One thing i give you though is you have a nice little blog. Ours is the LA TIMES.

  • New York

    Loyola Loyal,
    You found our “little blog” suitable for your chest pounding. Are you too embarrassed to blog on the LA Times? Don’t be so quick to knock “lower” divisions. Mira Costa is a former DIX champ…you guys really throttled them 28-14…

  • Jefe

    LoyolaLoyal, I wouldn’t be bragging about your team’s blog being the LA Times considering Aram & Co. utterly destroy the Times as far as providing in-depth, in-your-face type prep coverage with players & coaches.

  • Just sayin’

    Btw – those match ups aren’t “mythical” Amat swept WC and ChOak. nothing mythical about those whuppins!

  • Bulldogs have bite

    Loyola Loyal,

    You are not the biggest team West Covina has scheduled in recent years. We have played against the likes of Mater Dei and Bishop Amat and Rancho Cucamonga. For us it’s a step up game with nothing to lose and everything to gain. For you, it’s a hope to improve from that pathetic 3-7 record you guys had last year.

    A wounded animal backed into a corner is when it’s most dangerous! We are not going to go all the way to L.A. Valley College to just let you guys run right over us. We are going to compete and fight with all we have no matter who we have suited up, I guarantee you that much.

    At the end of the day win or lose, we will continue to schedule up because we do not fear competition, we thirst for it!

    Go Bulldogs!

  • progress

    t’s pretty silent in the valley today i tell ya. Anyone one who was at the Charter Oak vs Glendora, and Monrovia vs Glendora, can do their own Comparison. If Charter Oak can be number one, then Monrovia Should be number one. They looked better than CO against a common opponent. If you break down both teams, what makes charter oak better? The Only position they have a edge in QB, and that’s because the Monrovia QB is young. Here’s the deal, Charter oak struggled with Glendora in the Second half, and it was a close game. Monrovia dominated, and ran right past them in the second half. Coach Maddox did let his foot off the gas once he felt the game was in control. If Monrovia would have kept goin they would have scored 40 in that game, if it wasn’t for a late fumble, they were going to punch it in. We stayed healthy, and got the win. This whole summer we have been hearing Monrovia is a Midvalley team, and could not play with teams like Charter Oak and West Covina or even Bishop Amat. Well last night they showed that they can. Monrovia this season in my opinion would be #2 in the Southeast. Because the other top teams, have big games tonight, the rankings can go either way….
    if the top teams wins the rankings should be
    1. Bishop Amat-A win over servite would be the biggest win in the southland.
    2.West Covina-A win over pac 5 loyola without Solomon would be a huge win. A the Covina win was a great opener.
    3.Charter Oak-Wins over two Inland teams Glendora and Roosevelt would be fantastic, but after Monrovia dominated Glendora in the 2nd half, CO does not look as good as before.
    4.Monrovia-Great start, but the teams ahead playing really tough games, and I can not justify dropping anyone.
    5. La Habra-Beating up on La Mirada is not enough to jump any teams, Servite will be the test.
    6.Arcadia- Beating St Francis would be a great upper division win, Setting up the showdown with Monrovia..they are sitting right outside of the top 5, Beat St Francis, then Monrovia…you may be looking at a top 3 team…but that’s a big maybe

    If the top teams lose…
    1. Bishop Amat- if they lose to servite but keep it close, they are my number one. But if they get blown out, well Monrovia’s number one. Any team can play servite and lost by 3-4 TDs.
    2.Monrovia-Sitting at 1-0 the cats showed explosiveness, and poise. They will have to clean up sloppy play to be number 1. That first have would have cost them the game vs a top team.
    3.West Covina- Losing to loyola by a small margin without Solomon, is not so bad. They get him back, they are going to be right back in the groove.
    4.La Habra- They won’t lose to la Mirada, they move up a spot if everyone else loses.
    5.Charter oak, if they lose to Roosevelt, then the “overrated” Chants might start to get louder. They lose, they drop.

  • progress

    New york…you are right. After winning DIX, they were back to back DIVII champs. Mira Costa is a good program. I don’t think West Covina is as good as them.

  • HELLO

    ChOAK: if they win they get no credit because Crone is not even playing, maybe if they beat them without Santiago then they get credit. If they lose they get the usual over-rated chants….This game only has meaning on the CO offense because the defense will not be put to the test, i know its not COs fault or plan that Crone in not running the show tonight but this is reality! Crone is a true 6′+ QB with real size prob around 190 lbs… you need size , speed and accuracy to compete out here.

  • New York

    Progress,
    Which number were you wanting to write? I agree with your conclusion, though.

  • WTF?

    If Charter Oak loses I will laugh. Roosevelt is average for that area. Lots of inner turmoil. The fact that they are a measuring stick for one of the top 3 teams in the SGV shows that people’s perceptions, Aram, must be right. Now CC or Norco I get it. But Roosevelt? Nowhere near the task that WesCo and Amat have ahead of them. in fact I believe Amat and WesCo would hammer Roosevelt. Pressures on CO in my mind at least.

  • D-Mo

    By the sound of this, CO can’t win even if they win. Well, if it’s all the same, we’ll just have to win. Time to open the can of whoop ass.
    Good luck to all the underdogs tonight.

  • WTF?

    Oh and by the way Roosevelt’s starting QB won’t be playing tonight due to injury or so I’m told.

  • just sayin’

    Buldog – I wouldn’t harp on Loyolas 3-7 record too much. Those 3 wins were against Mira Costa, Valencia – for Valencia’s only regular season loss, and they blew out the same Upland team you squeaked by a couple weeks later. losing to teams like Mission Viejo, Newport Harbor, Alemany, Crespi, Bosco, and Amat is a bit different than beating up on Los Altos, Diamond Bar, South Hills, and Rowland

  • Amat Bully

    Man Aram you don’t gotta worry about CO handling business and bringing home an upset victory is expected to some CO fans like myself. Roosevelt is the under dog in this game and CO will reign over one of the inlands power house teams to start making our mark in the inland like we did in our own fish bowl. They already started with their excuses check them out. 1 man can’t win a game for you it takes a team effort.

    And im pretty sure WC will shock a lot of people tonight even without a few of their starters. All this does is give the backup an opportunity to show that he is “just as good” as the tribune M.V.P, just like in other cases when the starter goes down the backup shows up and surprises the world.

  • Amat Bully

    WTF?
    you say that Roosevelt is average for that area. will then what does that make Norco who you mentioned. Roosevelt last meeting against Norco Roosevelt won.

  • WTF?

    That’s 5-14 vs teams with 7 or more wins. 1-3 in the playoffs (1 win being against Claremont) and 27-17 overall. Very average. Somebody called them an IE powerhouse. HAHAHA!

  • just sayin’

    Bully Boy – you really dig this comparative score stuff so heres one for you. Earlier you were ragging on Chino Hills because they lost to Corona Santiago . Guess what? That Santiago team beat Roosevelt too? So which is it. Does that make Rosie less of a team than Santiago? Santiago in turn lost to a Dana Hills team that did not even make the playoffs in the Pac 5. So, using your theory, where does that put Rosie, Nprco. Santiago, CHills and ChOak in the pecking order?
    Do you see what road you are headed down?

  • Amat Bully

    just sayin’
    i see what your saying and i hate the comparative junk it leads no where but Roosevelt also was 9-3 last year just like Norco head up games is what matters and in the last four meetings Roosevelt is 2-2 against Norco with the latest victory going head to head. Norco did dominate Santiago in every meeting. and Santiago i think has the best of Roosevelt in head to head matches which would make Norco the better of the both comparative wise but in head to head matches Norco is even with Roosevelt. So calling Roosevelt an average team is kind of an understatement when in fact they beat the chosen power house by “WTF” twice and has the last laugh.

    i dont quite know the order they would be in but im guessing when CO beats Roosevelt and say Roosevelt beat Norco again then CO would be at the top considering when Co beats Ch this year and Ch loses to Santiago again. in the inland rankings though they have Roosevelt in the top 10 i don’t think i seen Santiago up there with Co at 9 and CH at 10. with Norco at 4 or 3 one of them.

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  • Know the facts

    Amat Bully said,
    “…… Roosevelt is the under dog in this game and CO will reign over one of the inlands power house teams to start making our mark in the inland like we did in our own fish bowl…..”
    Are you serious dude???? Roosevelt won their first playoff game in school history last year…..and they are a powerhouse??? They have been perennial under achievers. Know your facts before spouting stupid stuff. You are playing a slightly above average team without their stud QB who gives them the only credibility they have in the Inland valley….go back to your fishbowl

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  • NINEteen95

    Turn out the Lights…The Party’s over!

    That is long way to go to get your a$$ handed to you. Where is it?

    Cerritos?

    On the 605 Fwy, on a Friday afternoon? It’ll be 21 – 0 by the time AMAT73, JoeAmat and the rest of the clan gets there.

    Not In 2011 Either

  • P-Town

    Chino 16, P-Town 21 halftime

  • ptown

    Hey Aram final P-Town 28. Chino 24

  • ptown

    Aram ur a hater, where’s P-Towns score posts

  • Colt74

    P-town,
    OUTSTANDING WIN! Congratulations!

  • p-town

    Colt 74, 10/4, much thanks, congrats as well on ur huge win

  • lmao

    charter joke: Chino hills 28-16. both starting qbs played so it was a legitimate win unlike the struggling #1 team…lmao… having trouble with a back up QB….

  • LecheroHillsHusky

    The cows will be milking in Lechero Hills tomorrow morning!

    Santiago is a nobody team. CHHS be proud of beating a nobody team. Here comes the real competition and you’re gonna get your teeth kicked in.

    Enjoy your howling coyotes tonight. Get up at 4 am to milk the cows and don’t forget to mow the back 40!

  • NINEteen95

    Monday Morning’s SGV’s Top 10 should read like this:

    1. Charter Oak (2-0) They Could and They DID!
    2. Monrvia (2-0) They too beat Glendora and now wanna be the Chargers.
    3. La Habra(2-0) — Oh Oh! The Black Friars…?
    4. Arcadia
    5. Damien
    6. Covina
    7. South Hills
    8. Chino Hills (1-1) Yeah yeah, but BearSomething Kicked your A$$.
    9. St. Paul
    10. West Covina (1 – 1) Yeah, but they did it with injured players on the sidelines…

    And then there’s the REST:

    11. Bishop Amat (1 – 1) That was Humiliating…
    12.

  • Reality

    Still should be #1-CO #2-BA #3-WC. losing to Servite and Loyola shouldn’t cause them to drop when every team below them would probably lose by even more

  • progress

    1. Charter Oak 2-0(Big win against Roosevelt)
    2. Monrovia 1-0(Look good Against Glendora)
    3. West Covina1-1(Injuries killed them)
    4. Bishop Amat 1-1(got hit by a train)
    5. La habra 2-0(Close win over La Mirada)
    6. St Francis( Wins a close on against St Fran)
    7. Muir(Rolling along with win over Saugus)
    8 Chino hills1-1( Nice win over Santiago, Still a top team in SGV)
    9. Arroyo 2-0(looks to be a Midvalley contender)
    10.Pomona 2-0( Dark Horse, doesn’t like like hype to me.
    Others: Maranatha. Covina, San Dimas, Damien, Claremont, Los Altos, Duarte, San Marino, ST Pual

  • stop sugar coating the BA loss

    Reality, any one can lose 49-14 and Servite could have scored 70 pts in that game…i was there….It does not get More disgusting than that.. BA gets punished…Wesco was shorthanded. Bottom line!

  • KNow your facts!!!

    NINEteen95 said:
    Monday Morning’s SGV’s Top 10 should read like this:
    1. Charter Oak (2-0) They Could and They DID!
    2. Monrvia (2-0) They too beat Glendora and now wanna be the Chargers.
    3. La Habra(2-0) — Oh Oh! The Black Friars…?
    4. Arcadia
    5. Damien
    6. Covina
    7. South Hills
    8. Chino Hills (1-1) Yeah yeah, but BearSomething Kicked your A$$.
    9. St. Paul
    10. West Covina (1 – 1) Yeah, but they did it with injured players on the sidelines…
    And then there’s the REST:
    11. Bishop Amat (1 – 1) That was Humiliating…

    Dude, get a clue….that Bear Creek team that barely beat Chino Hills is ranked highe by cal preps and maxpreps than every team on this list beside Amat. Know your facts before you run your mouth

  • CO Bully

    get this thru your head! you dumb@$$ your win over the team with no qb does not mean anything! Monday you move to the 10 spot if your lucky, such ignorance and denial. RC will shut you out for sure!

  • CO Bully

    clown : “they can and they did” hahahaha it goes more like ” they better win else” its like racing a horse with a broken leg and celebrating. Your so desperate to be on top your taking charity.

  • Amat Bully

    CO Bully
    Dude shut up your embarrassing yourself stop with all the hating on CO victory. Roosevelt shouldn’t had come to a shoot out with a half loaded clip. Sounds familiar hint “last week lost to bear creek”. CO is 2-0 its not going to say CO is 1.5-0 because Roosevelt wasn’t fully loaded. Here’s a fact for you CO is ranked higher in the inland then CH and has a better record then CH so far this season. (tell me im lying)

    Dude im afraid when CO beats CH you might commit suicide your focus is on CO every week we have 8 weeks left before you’ll be able to sneak in CO locker room and sniff the players jock straps only to be caught by a jealous CH fan (Sierra league fan) who gets overly angry at you for beating him to the punch.

  • C.Baby

    No way is Pomona the team that you are portraying it to be. One lucky win against Chino doesn’t make you good. It means they had an off night and you were given a gift.

  • CO Bully

    amat bully: point being your a dumb jacka$$ and your your rankings and stats are bogus. you can’t beat us you barley squeezed by a rebuilding Glendora and a injured Roosevelt.Besides you don’t wear a jock strap from what i hear from your fellow fans over there say you sport a tampon. .

  • Colt74

    C. Baby,
    If Pomona’s win was a “GIFT” it was wrapped with Foil Paper, Ribbon, and a Bow…then FedEx’d overnight and delivered before 10:30 AM. Tell me any other team out there would refuse that “GIFT”.

    or.. option B:
    Pomona outplayed Chino and deserved/earned the win.

    Either way its a W in that column….

  • Amat Bully

    CO Bully
    SO are you saying that CO isn’t ranked higher than CH in the inland and that CO doesn’t have a better record than CH?

    And dude too much info about you and yo boys having convo about me and what you think i wear under my clothes. IM ONLY GOING TO TELL YOU THIS ONCE I LOVE WOMEN I DON’T FIND MEN ATTRACTIVE AT ALL. i know i can’t do anything about you and your boys fantasies about me but at least let them know next time that Amat Bully is heterosexual.

  • BAHS FAN

    Until one of you “Local Boys” steps up and takes a “W” against my Lancers….You got nothin!

    Plain

    And

    Simple…….S C O R E B O A R D ! ! ! ! !