All-CIF teams released: Amat blanked in PAC-5!? Charter Oak gets FIVE guys (two sophs!!!) on the Inland first team in another Big Lou Coup. Ellis McCarthy snubbed in Mid-Valley??? LET’S BREAK IT DOWN!!!! …

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The CIF-Southern Section released its All-CIF teams on Tuesday. The All-CIF teams are picked by the coaches that make up the respective divisions.

You can see them HERE.

And now for some REACTION:

PAC-5: NOBODY FROM AMAT? Uh, yeah. It’s true. Somebody check on Freddie for me. He must be beside himself. A lot of you were probably surprised that Amat only got one player (Jalen Moore) on our All-Area first team. Well, this kinda shows you why. Am I surprised Moore, who led the division in rushing for most of the season, wasn’t on the first team? Yes. But I don’t know who you take off to put him on. This is probably a sign of the times at Amat. Humbling and concerning, to say the least.

Inland: Charter Oak has FIVE, count ‘em FIVE guys on the first team!!!! TWO OF THEM ARE SOPHOMORES!!!! Big Lou has pulled off All-CIF coups in the past, but this one might be his best yet. It helps to have a coach lobbying hard for you (hint, hint). Congrats to Travis Santiago, Kurt Scoby, Chris Gilchrist, Eric Pervost and Aaren Vaughns. Congrats also go out to Naim Colbert and Nick Enriquez from Chino Hills.

Mid-Valley: Tribune Player of the Year Steven Rivera (Arroyo) takes home Offensive Player of the Year honors. M-Town’s Brett Walsh is the Defensive Player of the Year. M-Town’s Ryan Maddox was the Coach of the Year. OK, so you’re probably wondering how Ellis McCarthy wasn’t the Defensive Player of the Year. Well, from what I hear he wasn’t nominated. This is yet another reminder that McCarthy’s prowess belongs to the eye of the beholder. Some say he didn’t dominate enough. Fair argument. Some say his mere presence took away half the field. People ran away from him. People rolled away from his side. Fair enough. We’ve all got our opinions. Monrovia had a whopping 10 players on the first team, beside Walsh up top as Defensive Player of the Year.

Southeast: WestCo dominated. No shock. Chris Solomon is the Offensive Player of the Year. Dorrin Turner is the Defensive Player of the Year. Mike Maggiore is the Coach of the Year. When it comes to postseason honors, you really could take your pick of which West Covina player would be Player of the Year on offense and defense, and which players are merely first team. At the Trib, we say Justen Meaders is the Defensive Player of the Year. If you want to argue it’s Dorrin Turner, I can see your point. Hell, if you wanted to say the Solomon was the Tribune Player of the Year again this year, I can see that point, too. Six Bulldogs made the first team.

Southwest: Congrats to Aaron Porter being named the Defensive Player of the Year. No, La Habra didn’t win the division, but the Highlanders did well getting seven guys on the first team. Kinda odd how the Southwest does it. Porter made it as linebacker and running back and was the Defensive Player of the Year. Impressive and interesting.

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  • Aaron

    The All CIF lists make me laugh almost as bad as the ALL Mission Valley and All Valle Vista lists do…

    Oh and can they actually break it down to 1st Team, 2nd Team, and possibly honorable mention instead of the steaming pile of dung?

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    Aaron,

    You know what many people are going to say as a response to what you just said? That coaches know more than the sportswriters.

    It will be something about watching films and knowing Xs and Os. But nothing about concessions and politics.

    When Fred and I make the Tribune All-Area team, we don’t make concessions to each other. Argue? Yes. Scare Steve Ramirez half to death? Yes. But ZERO concessions. And you know what? People still gripe about the team. And you also know what? I don’t care. They have their opinions and we have ours. That’s the beauty of football.

    There were plenty of guys on the Tribune’s All-Area second team who had great cases to be on the fisrt team.

  • Sierra League Fan

    Congratulations to all of the area kids who made their division’s ALL CIF team. Way to work hard! Yes, there are probably many deserving kids who didn’t make it however, let’s congratulate those who did!

  • All Cif

    All League, All Area, and all CIF are all subjective. There is no real method to the madness. When you put several coaches in the room. All of them have players they are pulling for to make the team. I think the writers should also be involved in the All league and all CIF selection. Coaches don’t see all the teams. They only see the teams they play in league, If they are lucky enough to make it to playoffs, they may see two more teams. That is the main purpose for exchanging film before a playoff game. The Writers have correspondents, so they at least here about who’s good on top of seeing some of them.

    Aram I am going to have to disagree with you on the point you made about Ellis. The reason Ellis was not nominated, was that he missed 3 games this year. People don’t know but, when Ellis was out Walsh made play after play, Holding the moral of the Wildcat Defense together. That’s how he had 192 tackles(He really did). There was no question who the Defensive player of the year was. It was not even close. But that does not take away from the excellent year Ellis had. Ellis is not god. Anyone can be blocked. Ellis is a super football player, one the hardest kids to block in America. All of the D1 Coaches were the beholders, and they loved what they beheld. I am not going to call you a Ellis hater, but sometimes you write with a tone and flavor, as if he was a let down and did not perform. No one can take away from the kids game. As he goes to college it will get harder for him. He is one the best high school D lineman the SGV has ever seen. You can throw his name up there with Cody, Harwell, and now McCarthy’s name goes right there. You and Ellis are the same size. Imagine yourself running a 4.8, and moving like a LB and running down Excellent backs like Ainsworth, or Sir Darius. That’s Big Ellis. Cody and Harwell, still have one up on him because they made it to the league. Ellis will have his chance. Give him time.

  • Aram what r u smoking, Ellis is on the list

    Aram, McCarthy is on the CIF Mid Valley list for defense

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    Did you read what I said? I know he was on the list. I was referring to that he wasn’t the Defensive Player of the Year, nor was he nominated. That’s kinda shocking.

  • Observantcat

    I agree with All CIF, Brett Walsh is the most underrated player in the Div. He should have received League MVP, CIF Player of the Year and whatever else a high school football player deserves. I notice very little attention given to his accomplishments by any of the valley papers. Not only were his numbers over the top impressive, his team won the Div. Championship. Walsh has another year as a Wildcat and I’m positive he will get his D1 respect from colleges across the country by the end of his senior season. McCarthy is McCarthy, he was destined for greatness from the get go and all of those who didn’t want to give him his just due made it even sweeter. He still has a way to go but he’s half way there and from what I know about the kid he’s ready for the college transition. The NFL is every kids dream who puts on a pair of cleats and go’s out there along with their teammates to reach the ultimate high school experience and bring home a CIF championship, Monrovia kids have done it twice in a row and are looking to go for the 3 peat. The Monrovia community is very proud of the kids who have taken a high road past all of the mischief that tried to sidetrack these atheletes from accomplishing their goals. The bottom line is you can make a case for any hard working kid who has surpassed their limits as a high school football player to get on a list of great atheletes, but just because they are not where we individually expect them to be doesn’t mean they are not better than advertised.

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    Walsh and G5 were very, very good. But how much of that was them cleaning up what McCarthy created for them?

  • saladays

    McCarthay is not even in the same ballpark as Cody or Brigham. Those guys were dominant. He is a better prospect but both of the other guys are better players…way BETTER players.

    The best player I saw in this division was the receiver kid from pomona. (in terms of a next level guy) Why the didn’t throw him the ball 15 times a game is beyond me.

    Player who is the best high school guy and got the most out of what he has Steven Rivera.

  • JMO

    Aram,

    The best thing about the CO kids making first team was that Big Lou didn’t even make the meeting. Coach Bub represented for CO, pretty cool.

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    JMO,

    HOLY COW! Are you kidding me? Big Lou pulls a coup in absentia? Now that’s really mafia!!!!

  • Aaron

    Could we please stop calling this the first team. There used to be those designations but they no longer exist.

  • Colt74

    Congrats to ALL the young men that were recognized and selected.

    A heartfelt congrats to all the Colts that were selected.
    Being an ex-lineman from the jurassic period it is rewarding to see that others saw what I saw from one Phil Romano before the season started. I know that Phil’s grampa is proud today as well as he should be.

    To Billy, Vinny, Johnny, Nick, Peter, Phil….the parents, coaches and teammates ( and grampas )….

    Bravo Zulu!

  • snack shack better get some more hotdogs

    5 (confirmed) universities will have college football coaches watching tonight’s Wilson’s basketball game in Hac Hts, better get a few more hot dogs to sell

  • if you only know:

    Big Lou didnt show: but the whole CO staff did when they were only allowed 2 coaches or staff? WTF too bad all the CO CIF team dont have the SAT scores to go with it…lol

  • why lol because of grades

    to: if you only know

    would you really lol because someone were to have bad grades or test scores, seems to be a tragedy to me if it were the case

  • JMO

    if you only know?

    That would be kind of hard when the entire staff was sitting at the head table at the banquet giving out awards when Big Lou got the call from Bub. He stopped everything and called the kids up in front of 300 people to congratulate them you PIEHOLE! You know nothing you bitter ” my kid got worked by CO this year so I hate you ” tool boy.

  • http://insidesocal.com/murray Steve Ramirez

    saladays: From someone who has seen them all, I would say McCarthy is in the same ball park. McCarthy is just a different type of player than either Cody or Harwell. In high school, Cody and Harwell were both speed/edge guys whose strength was their speed off the ball. Yes, they were strong two, but both played defense end, which allows you to clean up on the stats. McCarthy’s strength is his size and strength. The best tackles – like McCarthy – are disrupters who force teams to commit two, three and four players to block you, allowing others to roam free. That’s what McCarthy brought to the table.

  • Another one

    Aram,

    Add Muir to the list of schools who are now looking for a new coach. The job is being flown on Edjoin.com.

  • aaron

    Come on dude give respect where respect is earned La Mirada had the exact amount of players selected as West CO did. show us some love to.

  • Anonymous

    Muir is not looking for another coach if they are then Muir fans can say thank you to Darick Holmes jr. because if his dad is no longer coaching there neither will his son play there. Sad to see him go.

  • Big Lou pulls a coup in absentia?

    ARAM: That is classic! Pulling a coup in absentia!!!!! I literally fell out laughing my A$$ off at that one.

    Congrats to all the kids that made it and those that should have. Heck, congrats to all the kids that had the privilege and the opportunity to compete!

  • Back From Vegas…

    Just got back from Vegas…!

    PAC-5: NOBODY FROM AMAT? LMFAO!

    Wow…What an embarrassment to all the Amat Blow Hards!

    Don’t come back here telling me that I didn’t tell you so! I told you from way back in August that this would happen!

    PAC 5 Participant…that’s all!

  • LeBron James

    Colt74

    I feel you little guy…

    Not 4, Not 5, Not 6, Not 7…

    You’ll win a championship one of these years!!!

    They should change our games to 3 periods like in hockey! What do you think???

  • Bottom Feaders…

    Schools in the Pac 5 without any players on the All CIF team in 2011:

    BISHOP AMAT 6-5-0
    Notre Dame 6-4-0
    Trabuco Hills 6-4-0
    Woodrow Wilson 5-6-0
    Jordan 4-6-0
    JSerra Catholic 4-6-0
    Fountain Valley 4-6-0
    Compton 3-7-0
    Dana Hills 3-7-0
    Marina 1-8-1
    Millikan 1-9-0

    Notice the Schools? What’s the common pattern? That Western Division shure looks pretty good right about now!

    Facts Are Facts…

    just sayin’

    CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE BOYS THAT RECEIVED THE ALL CIF HONOR!

  • Reality

    Nobody from Mater Dei. That “bottom feeder” takes turns beating Corona Centennial in their games series. Nobody from Notre Dame, another bottom feeder, who destroyed this years #1 seed in the Western Division. Nobody from Orange Lutheran. Nobody from Los Alamitos. So the other “bottom feeders” in the Pac 5 are “step-up games” and cause for excitement for Inland Div/Sierra League playoff teams..
    THAT tells you all you need to know about those Pac 5 “bottom feeders”

  • Dang BA

    A good education is the only reason to go to Bishop Now. If you go there, it is for certain that you won’t.

    A. Win League
    B. Win a Playoff Game
    C. Win A CIF Title
    D. Make the All CIF team
    E. Get a Football Scholarship…(Jaylen Please sign) The scouts seem to be everyone where but there.

    You can settle for All Area, bc someone from Bishop has to be on that list or the Trib shuts down. They are going to get dropped down a div. Sad. It’s hard to be good every year. Bishop has been for so long. Maybe Demographics, and the Emergence of Charter Oak, West Co, and Monrovia is keeping them from getting those Top Athletes. If CO wins that Game, that will be a nail in the coffin. However, BA still wins with Haynes at QB. CO has no signal caller. I am sure one will transfer in somehow. LOl. However give Scoby the ball 30 times and you should be fine…or run the wing T. Lmao

    Side note, I am not a Wilson Fan, but congrats to JR Nelson on Landing a full Ride to Montana. Midvalley sports just posted the story. I did not see much of this kid, but he was awesome. It’s too bad wilson was terrible or his numbers would have been around 2200 yds. I know they feed him the rock, but his yards were all created by him. Bishop Needs players like that guy. Long, Nice Stride, good vision, Hands, and He has heart to play that hard for the worst team in the Area. 6-34 during his career..Nice job kid.

  • jackA$$

    HMO: i meant for the night when they had to be there to vote!! Besides my kid didnt get worked by your low SAT and class cutting with teachers just passing out grades football team. What was that??? where did you say they are going for college besides JC? Yeah I thought so!

  • NADA???

    I agree with REALITY!

    Mater Dei, Orange Lutheran, and Los Alamitos were Bottom Feeders in 2011 too!

    Facts are Facts, Amat!

  • LanceLot Hater

    DrunkALot…!

    Not one Amat player on the All CIF team. Can you believe that? We’ve been robbed! This has got to be a PAC 5 coaches conspiracy! What do you think?

    Where you at sweetheart? We should add this to the long list of 2011 Bishop Amat Lancers Embarrassing moments?

    Has the banquet at ChuckyCheese happen yet? I know thats Hagerty’s favorite place! Alberto’s would have been just fine. You know…no trophies, just a few league patches, no academic patches, no all cif. I’m getting concerned for the Lancers! LOL Not really! LMFAO!

    Could have gotten in and out of Alberto’s in about 20 minutes…!

  • JMO

    jackA$$,

    At least you got your name right. CO coaching staff was not there that night skrid boy, how stupid are you dick weed.

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    Perhaps Joe Amat and Amat 73′s silence on this one is VERY TELLING.

    As a side note: I think Moore should have/could have been on this list. After that, though, not sure who else you can make a case for.

  • Joe Amat

    AT – this blog makes me chuckle…but I guess that’s one of the purposes. When 73 or me come on here and comment, we’re blowhards, know-it-alls, or can’t let it go…but our silence is VERY TELLING. LOL!!!

    What is really telling is this process usually takes 3 or 4 submission attempys before the blog machine will accept it. I actually tried a few times already (One actually rather lengthy) and gave up. At least on Freddies blog you have the option of registering so you can sign in and submit without all the Captcha BS. Maybe that’s why you get 3500+ hits and 15 comments. Something to think about.

    This isn’t the first time Amat’s been “shut out” and won’t be the last. 72, 75 thru 80, 02, 03, 06, and 07 were also years without a member on he All-CIF team. There were plenty of other years when we only had one, and as you said, Moore easily coulda been there, as could Montes. Amat’s secondary actually had some nice perfprmances against some big-time receivers. In a healthy year perhaps Shay and Ruiz would garner consideration too.

    But not having any individual recognition didn’t say anything more then than it does now. After being “shut out” in 75-80 Amat promptly ran off 11 straight league titles – when the Angelus league WAS the toughest around without question. After having no one in 06 and 07, Amat has gone 32-13, beating teams like Olu, Mater Dei, St Bonaventure and every leagie or Fish Bowl team we’ve played, while winning the Serra League title in 09.

    I’m sure Rooney, Rollinson, and Kunau are not thinking this is “the sign of the times” that Notre Dame, Mater Dei, or OLu whad no one either. But it makes for good blog fodder.

  • Joe Amat

    BTW , that entry was my 5th attempt. Persistence!

  • Joe Amat

    Of course….now rumors surface that OLU administrators may think it’s a “sign of the times” and say Kunau is in trouble.

  • It Rained Today…

    I agree with Joe Amat! Those Amat teams he mentioned (72, 75 thru 80, 02, 03, 06, and 07) sucked too!!!

    Also, Mater Dei, Notre Dame and Orange Lutheran have become Bottom Feeders in 2011 too!

    Facts are Facts, Amat!

    PS: Brief…Joe Amat! I got through on the 1st try!!!

  • AMAT 73

    Let me start off by congratulating each and every SGV player who made all CIF . Great job and great work by all you fine young men and you are all deserving of the accomplishment .
    Aram,
    And what VERY TELLING sign is that ????? Are you trying to use the fact of Joe or myself not posting to back your ” humbling and concerned” theory on AMAT ??? You expecting a lot of the downfall of AMAT type of posts by prodding bloggers with that type of bait . Sort of a let me be the first to start the flow ??? After all you did capitalize VERY TELLING did you not ??? Well as Joe pointed out it is not the first nor probably will it be that last time one of our Lancers has not made all CIF. I for one think Moore should have made the team but that is my opinion and mine alone. He could easily replace any one back on the team and I don’t think you would hear a cry of foul by anyone including you Aram. We had others who were worthy as you saw by their all Serra league status but when you examine the players who made the team and other teams of the PAC-5 who did not warrant a single player or only having one player make the list it should speak volumes as to how tough it is to make all CIF in the PAC -5 . But this is OUR CORNER OF THE WORLD as you say so to the Faithful no, it not a telling sign nor a big concern as it has happened before to even better teams we’ve had in the past. Maybe to someone who has found a new love or should I say a new found king of the SGV it may be a wishful sign or percieved short coming or hopefully the downfall of a once great program in their eyes but not to the Faithful . What I find funny is the fact that you , Aram, have put down these types of lists as consessions and politics amoung the coaching circles when they go against your choices or point of view. But you find them very telling and spot on when they back your choices or thinking such as only one AMAT player being first team on the all Trib but then doubt them for the SNUBB of McCarthy because it goes against your view him.
    Now by Joe and myself being the last to post let the onslaught by the village idiot begin . I would think you would be tired of the worthless rhetoric by now as many other bloggers have become also, but as it seems to be with you , anything for a hit count . In previewing my post I can see it has begun already , but that’s ok because on this blog it is an expected thing rather than a rarity . Isn’t that what you were looking for in the first place Aram ?????

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    Joe Amat and AMAT 73,

    I was referring to it being VERY TELLING that you two had NO TAKES on Amat getting skunked in the all-CIF voting. It seemed to me like you had no gripe with it because you realize that outside of Moore, your boys had no claim. To me, that’s scary. To me, that’s concerning.

    Since when is it OK for Amat honks to have no complaints or concerns over not getting ANYBODY on the all-CIF team?

    I’ve talked to PEOPLE (COACHES!!!!) at the school who are concerned. Perhaps your homerism prevents you from also being worried.

  • Jefe

    Let’s face it, Amat didn’t have any athletes worthy of All-CIF this season.

    It sucks for Amat but I don’t think it’s a shock to Joe or AMAT73.

  • Joe Amat

    AT,

    Did Fox have some “little flashy thing” like Will Smith used in Men I Black to erase all your memory before your Tribune Hiatus? Really, of all people, you should remember thebirth and explosion of yur blog.

    Go check the archives of my posts from that era. Anything resembling “homerism” there? Just the opposite if you were to have listened to some of the “Amat Nation” at that time. But the “Amat Family” new better.

    I was critical then because it was necessary. The program was headed in the wrong direction….and fast. If that were the case – I’d say so. As I did then. But it’s not. If you’ve been around long enough to see the cycle that I laid out earlier you’d realize that.

    Everytime a great running back graduates people cry doom & gloom, when defensive guys move on – what are they gooing to do? Is not not that alistic to look at the score of the Alemany, Notre Dame, and even Loyola games and realize wth a play or two and an injury less you may be talking about something entirely different. It’s not as if there was a huge gap.

    I do have a differnt view on records, rosters, etc than many. This years upperclassmen were in 7th and 8th grade when the Fish Bowl was losing confidence fast with the decline of Amat. You wrote a couple posts on what the Lancs need to do. Who wanted to come at that time besides the most loyal? Another couple/few that were’t scared away by the previoous regime and that provides more of the depth that Amat is used to.

    As far as “coaches” (no need to scream) being concerned…every coach in America is concerned when a season ends as they get ready for the next year. Every coach would like to have more. Heck, even Harry Welch is concerned (especially today after being paced on administrative leave. Ouch!)

    Remember, a season ago the Lancers we 9-0 and playing for Back-to-Back Serra League championships on the last day of the season. I don’t intend to be a prisoner of this moment and run around like chicken little crying “the sky is falling!” i’ve read this chapter before – and have seen what chapters have historically followed.

    Not homerism…realism.

  • Football Follower

    I love seeing all this smack about AMAT not getting any CIF player awards. NOT.. I really like seeing all these teams in the valley stepping up to play them. NOT.. I keep asking the question, if AMAT’s players are so bad then why do the Valley Teams keep dodging them. Damien has even cancelled the contract or should I say not extended it because they were having schedule problems(Typical Gano). I am looking forward to CO and AMAT this year and really looking forward to see how long the contract goes before they cancel it like last time. These games should be played every year, they are good for the SGV. The last time CO had AMAT on the schedule they took a beating at home and at AMAT after defacing the field during game week. AMAT laid the hammer down and out they went as did Damien on numerous occasions.

  • AMAT 73

    Jefe,
    Not the case of not worthy as I and probably you could see Jalen on this list and not baulk. I feel others could have been but like I wrote earlier that is my opinion so why cry foul , what good does it do other than give the haters ammo for their shots and it is just not worth it on this blog as there is very little true banter geared towards actual football analysis of x’s and o’s or why and why not . By the way did you face the fact that none of your defensive players were not worthy also even though they had some pretty good showings in league ???
    Aram ,
    See above on my take of no LANCERS making all CIF and no complaints. As far the homerism causing any prevention I beg to differ. As Joe pointed out he did lead the charge of getting some heat on the previous regime (of which he and I had some posts with each other about that point along with the missing A on the field ) and the fact that they could not do the job. I for one had a little more patience but did call for a change when no improvement happened and things started to get worse and that was just cause for concern and alarm without a doubt. In short there was no light at the end of the tunnel and that tunnel was looking more like a cave in . In my more than 45 years of following AMAT football the fact of no all CIF players is no cause for alarm nor crying ( after all like you say these are list of concessions and politics amoung coaches ) but now maybe 2-3 years of 3-7 or 2-8 and no playoffs and in those years losing to the locals by getting blown out , HELL yes raise the flag and sound the bells but what you asking us to do concerning all CIF is more of a nation type post but not of the Family because as Joe put it we know better.

  • Don’t Give Up Amat…

    Isn’t way too early for Joe Amat and Amat73 to give up on their 2012 football program? Its only January, girls!

    These guys are so full of sh*t that they can’t see that they’re already knee deep.

    By the way boyz, the New York JETS called to say that they are still the best football team that the New York area has ever had!!! LMFAO!

    J…E…T…S!!!

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