All-encompassing SGV(N) Top 25 post-passing circuit


Andy Sherwood (left), Josh Savage (middle) and Jonathan Lyles (right) are three reasons why Damien was almost No. 1.

This is the second-to-last preseason ranking. There will be a final preseason ranking after the teams are in pads (probably right around a week before the season).

1. Charter Oak — Physically the most impressive team around. Offense progressing well, too.
2. Damien — My No. 1 team if Alex Hernandez doesn’t transfer.
3. Chino Hills — Huskies drop a tad because I’m worried about the run game.
4. St. Paul — Threw against top-flight competition and held their own.
5. West Covina — Don’t know what SGV Shootout title portends, but man that’s scary.
6. Monrovia — Didn’t light it up this summer as I had hoped, but that’s being nitpicky.
7. Bishop Amat — Uninspiring summer is cause for concern for some, but not others.
8. La Habra – Not as flashy as previous summers, but then again, things go in cycles.
9. St. Francis — I’d rather have QB solved and worry about everything else than the opposite.
10. La Mirada — Offers are rolling in for the talent, so let’s hope for no repeat of ’10.
11. La Serna — Scary thought: QB Palmer looks like he’s gotten even better.
12. San Dimas — Valle Vista has gone from Saints cakewalk to “Watch out for Northview”.
13. Ayala — Jordan Robinson hailed as best skill player in league by Sierra coaches.
14. South Hills — The size is there as we all now know, but depth and QB are worries.
15. Claremont — Yet another Sierra team having a solid summer. What a league.
16. Diamond Ranch — Quiet summer, but talent is looking better and better to me.
17. Maranatha — Skill talent is there, but cohesion just isn’t quite there yet.
18. Cantwell — As good as shot as anybody in the Northwest.
19. Arcadia — Although not to last year’s level, passed my eyeball test at SGV Shootout.
20. Northview — By far the most impressive turnaround compared to last year.
21. San Gabriel — You’d think the Mats would thrive at passing games, but not so.
22. El Monte — Love how the Lions have tested themselves against top competition.
23. Arroyo — After seeing QB Nathan Coto, fears about Knights have subsided.
24. Pasadena — Supporting cast for QB Cox is developing … slowly.
25. Duarte — Absolutely scary size. This team is poised to make a major leap this season.

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  • anonymous

    Sierra League teams taking spots 1-3 and 13-15. Nice.

  • dontforgetthecolts

    The Covina aren’t as bad as anticipated, they have held their ground and competed against upper divison schools Etwianda, Compton Dominguez , and Glendora. The Valle vista will be tought this year with Northiew San Dimas and Covina

  • Bohighnation

    Aram, I think you made a mistake. You forgot Bonita

  • Just My Opinion

    I know everyone has one, so here is mine. I really have zero concern after the “Passing Circuit”, which I feel is a waste of time. I have been to many of our team’s practices and have seen what we do have on both sides of the ball. I really believe that we will be a very solid team in 2012, and not just win our non league games against the SGV teams (CO, CH, SP), but also seriously compete for the Serra league championship. Now I do agree that to compete in the Pac 5 Playoffs we need to improve overall, but that is what the season is for. It is a process. You can tout all you want for these passing leagues, but let’s see what reality is when the pads come on and the hitting starts. I’m not predicting any blowouts, but I do believe we will beat all three SGV teams we will face this coming season. I think all three games will live up to the hype, because this coming year all these programs are much improved and equal in talent.

  • Too Early for Predictions

    Aram,

    These early predictions are meaningless. Just the way Maxpreps has the top 25, this SGV top 25 is useless. You will be able to tell what a team really has after their first two games. Until then, based on the worthless passing scrimmages, no one really knows who is gonna shine.

  • Inside Sparta

    My suggestion is Chino Hills should be number 2 and Damien number 3. Also La Mirada looks a little low.
    Damien has had a solid spring and summer. They showed some signs of being much improved. BUT let’s call it what it is. The path to the Sierra title goes through Charter Oak and Chino Hills. They are the past 2 champions and until Damien beats them they still favored. This is not meant to be disrepectful to Damien I am just trying to keep it real on what the preason rankings should be.
    I do like Damiens chances this BUT until games are played the champs get the nod.

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    I did not forget Bonita. I just have more questions than answers right now. Just found out last night about the Todorovich and Ramirez injuries.

  • NoMore7-on

    So this is the “who cares top 25″ because PL doesn’t mean a thing. Thanks!

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    If you view passing league as meaningless (and I won’t argue with those who do), then yes, these rankings are mostly meaningless.

    They are a progression of what we knew teams had coming back, who else they got in, how they fared in the weight room (look test), how they did in spring ball (more look test) and of course passing league (even more look test).

    But, what else do you have to go off of at this point?

    When the physically most gifted team in the area wins a passing tournament, that screams No. 1 to me.

  • Whittier Fan

    Aram…
    SP #4 Really! What have they done lately to merit such a high rank…New Coach?????

  • Chino Hills Running Game???

    Aram,
    You rank chino Hills #3 because of concerns about their running game? Starting RB Louie Napoles was first team all league last year and Darrin Abacherli also returns from last year’s team. The offensive line will be just fine. They have 2 1/2 returning starters from last year and have a few solid replacements for those that graduated. Come on Aram…you know CH always has one of the top O-lines in the area. So what’s your concern?

  • SGV Athlete

    Watch out for a shift in power in the Montview League this season…Duarte has some real decent talent this year and Gladstone has over 30 seniors, most of which started last year. Feels like the good ol days…

  • Green pastures aka “El Gato Monte”

    Being a blogger Vet,

    This is a Great ranking list! I love where the Green Cats are place…it leaves room for upward mobility. Mtown played well, but did not light it up. They lost to Wesco in the SGV shootout, and lost to Upland in the Bonita shoot out. They didn’t look as crisp as I would like. However, the hogs ended the summer winning a lineman challenge. That was huge for their confidence. The pressure is now on the top five teams. They are going to have to make strides. CO must win league, and get to at least the 2nd with a close lose or win. West CO will do what they do. Damien will have to dethrone CO and get out of the 1st round. Chino Hills is going to have to dethrone CO and get past the first round. St Paul, will get some slack due to tough preseason, but they will have to win League, and get to a least the 2nd Round. Bishop is going to have to do a lot, that’s all I can say. Mtown must Run the table to get the # 1 spot in My opinion. I like our chances tho’. If things don’t happen like I’ve stated above, you could be looking at a #1 Monrovia when the smoke settles. If the Cats can get to state, that would be hands down a accomplishment deserving #1. If they win state it would be one of the best seasons in SGV history…

    Let’s Green Cats!

  • Ayala Fan

    Congrads to Jordan Robinson and the rest of the Ayala football players. I know they have really been working hard and looking forward to the coming season. I wish them all good health and the best of luck.

  • Anonymous

    Aram

    i dont understand how Amat still made top 10 when they lost all summer and didnt even make it out of the claremont tournament. Hey im not taking shots at Amat but they were definitely the worst team in the passing circuit.

  • Dan

    A sign of good times?
    For two years in a row a preseason 5 to 7 rank has turned out good for WC, hope it leads to post season #1 again.

  • AyalaBulldogFan

    @Chino Hills Running Game???

    Aram pays selective at best attention to All-League honors.

  • SIerra League is Loaded

    Looks like the Sierra League is gonna be a battle this year. CH, CO< Damien and Ayala look very strong. Claremont has a lot of talent returning. I see the weak link being So. Hills. We all know they are over matched and misplaced, they should be in D 7 with West Co. It is going to be very interesting to watch how things play out. Good luck to all Sierra League teams.

  • Crystal Ball

    San Gabriel will again play Monrovia for D11 supremacy, Monrovia by 14 at halftime.

    YOU DON’T WANT NO GREEN AND WHITE!!!

  • wildozer

    Coach Brown deserves his shot. . . Have to see how well the colts develops their team since they are starting from scratch.

    THe Northview game ought to be a dandy given the competition all these years.

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    I spoke to Coach Bub and he said the team will pass to set up the run this year, not the other way around. So maybe my fears are unfounded. I know Chino Hills always has linemen, but Palafox and Enriquez are very hard to replace.

    It’s close for me, real close between the top three.

  • Desert Rat

    To Crystal Ball-

    If you think San Gabriel makes it the finals then you need to change your name to Crystal Meth…because you must of taken a huge dose of it to utter those words.

  • CoachesCorner

    To Desert Rat
    Great to have you back. Hope everybody up there is doing well. If we do this thing just right will be able to say Hello at the “CIF Finals Luncheon” once again. Mostly a reader never a writer so Good Luck to the Spirits this year and lets start up this great rivalry once again.

  • Crystal Ball

    @ Desert Rat,
    Bet your house or your card board carton, whatever you call home, on it. San Gabriel will meet Monrovia again in the finals.

    YOU DON’T WANT NO GREEN AND WHITE!

  • No Talent

    I wonder if Amat would feel the same way if they had won a passing game or 2 this summer. Hmmmm! Amat Blowhards are working hard to convince themselves that they won’t suck in 2012. Ask them where is their Talent and all we get is silence. Ask them to tell us who are the play makers and silence again. We have all seen this team this summer. We can all see what’s Not there. All except the Amat Blowhards. Actually the Charlotte Bobcats called to say they are confident in you too Lancers! You got that going for you…!

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    No talent,

    Amat has some of nicest talent in the SGV, just maybe not enough of it or enough horses in the trenches. But Andrews isn’t going to Duke for no reason. Blue is gonna be one of the top backs in the area, Daniels is one of the best LBs around, Velasquez is in the Julian Gener mold. My only worry is that I didn’t see enough across the board.

    They may be able to out-execute SGV teams and win those games, but you can’t rely on execution alone in the PAC-5. You need skill guys and line guys, too.

  • Desert Rat

    @-CoachesCorner…thanks for the kind words, glad to be back.

    @-Crystal Meth…dreams are great things to have. Remember most people just have them. Get my drift…

  • Dan

    To Sierra league is loaded,
    “We all know they are over matched and misplaced, they should be in D 7 with West Co.”

    Ha Ha, I caught that, very funny. Get current with the times pal, West Covina would do just fine in the Sierra, the worst they do in both 2010 and 2011 is second place, and they were very capable of doing better than that. Lets remember they came from the Sierra and the last four years they were in that league they made the playoffs.

  • Amat passing games?

    I saw the video of amat players u posted .did not quite understand sal Velasquez , but iI thought I heard him say that they did not lose at the corona Santiago passing games. Correct me if I am wrong . Amats defense will be fine . They held most teams to low scoring except the 2 big teams of the PAC 5 and state . They have a core of defensive players with 2 yrs varsity experience .offense will come down to there qb .with there tight ends ,Andrews , blue and other receivers they have enough talent to pass well if the haynes does well. Sometimes qbs tend to throw ints in passing league because they throw the ball to beat the time limit and throw passes they would normally not throw .blue might be small but he is bigger than what Eric bienemy was his sophomore year when he had his breakout year as a sophomore .

  • Green Pastures….

    Amat has 5 really good players. Blue, Andrews, Daniels,Valasquez and their TE. That would be good enough to get by, but who is going to get them the ball? and 4 out of 5 go both ways. The season will rely on their backups, and special Teams. If they make one sub…oh my.
    That schedule and the Pac 5 are unforgiving. Let’s not compare blue to Eric B…not yet..he has not earned that. Plus Eric B played for the old loaded Amat. This years squad, is not on that level. Plus you add, kick returns and CB, and what ever else he does…i don’t know. However, Amat should still be able to win Passing league tourneys. They are the only D1 Team their normally. No Excuses, let’s just say they are #7 right now.

  • Colts

    Aram, any word on the Colts this year. I know they graduated alot, but is the talent gone? last i heard the lower levels were successful. theyve had a quiet summer this year, last year they were great in summer and this year nowhere to be found… any info… is this the year Northview beats them?

  • Amat passing game questions?

    @ green pastures.agree ,cannot compare any running backs in the valley to bienemy .my point is you don’t need to be over 185 to be a good back. Actually this team has about the same amount of talent and probably more than bienemy years .his sophomore year they had graduated 90 percent of players and 5 with scholarships the year before. The team only had John Jackson that year . Bienemys junior and senior year they had a small line and only had bienemy and jr Phillips . That is why they never made passed second round . This year has at least 3-4 guys with potential to get scholarships after the season .

  • Colts back?

    @colts guy .i saw so many freshman games last year .i got to see Covina once And the running back was very good.i would like to know also if he is playing varsity. He was a one man offense when I saw him .

  • Spartan 4 Life

    @Dan said,
    Are you kidding me? West Covina would get waxed by either Damien, CO, CH & Ayala. Even Claremont might be you. Your only win would be your neighbor down the street. Keep dreaming!!!

  • SGV FOOTBALL

    Crystal Ball,

    San Gabriel Vs. Monrovia? Please don’t put us through that again!
    Monrovia will be lucky if they make it to the finals this year. You have a stat champion being added and one of the most dominate small schools in the southern section in Paraclete being added to the Mid Valley.

    Green pastures aka “El Gato Monte,

    It would be great to see Monrovia with a Cinderella story this year but it wont happen. After reviewing your schedule you will have at least three losses before you even hit the regular season maybe even four losses if San Dimas comes to play!

    Cee-Ohhh!!

  • Crystal Ball

    @ Desert Rat,
    I got you. You mean dream like you do. Sorry, I am not into incest and I don’t waste my beauty sleep on football. Now, claw yourself back into the sewer before you get eaten by a big bad cat.

    YOU DON’T WANT NO GREEN AND WHITE!

  • Crystal Ball

    @ SGV Football,

    We can go 0 and 5 in non league, 3 and 2 in league, with an overall record of 3 and 7 and still make the playoffs. But you know that won’t happen.

    YOU DON”T WANT NO GREEN AND WHITE!

  • SGV FOOTBALL

    Aram,

    Can you please tell us why you are drinking the Damien Kool Aid?

    I’m trying not to lose faith in your rankings but I just don’t see them this high unless your trying to hype the week 10 game against Charter Oak …

    Crystal Ball,

    Read my post again and make sure you know what I’m talking about before you start typing.

    I was talking about Green pastures state title hopes and not you making the playoffs.

    Ceee-Ohhh!

  • Desert Rat

    @Crystal Meth- I’m confused….so your reppin’ MTown and you want to see another weakazz final against SanG? Of is it the other way around. Anyways…you’re whack!

    And just to clarify….how many titles y’all have down there? We got 8 overall and rolled off a FIVE consective titles in a legit small school era (late-90′s/early-2000′s). As of late, we matched MTown’s two in the same amount of time.

    So you have a back-to-back titles….congrats! Great teams, awesome program….got nothing but love and respect for the ‘Cat but the breaks over.

  • Sticky Green stuff …AKA El Gato

    SGV football…don’t act like we can’t predict the year for the top five teams…no I am not taking shots either…Make corrections if I am off base. Like I said the pressure is on the top 5. If you are who you think and say you are, then should have no problem improving on last years performance. In Monrovia, for us to improve,we must go 14-0 and possibly earn a state bid in Div 4. That’s all that matters. Monrovia is one two team in the Valley that has 4 teams from higher division on their preseason schedule. St Paul in the other, but Mtown is seperated by 4-9 divisions vs everyone they play. If you believe you are a true upper division team, then why complain and try to prove to everyone that your division is difficult. Everyone knows they are. The question is…is it too much for your team? After a while, Some teams will be back in the South east where we will be after this season. CO especially, if you storm through league like last year, then get splattered in the 2nd round, what does that say about your team and your league. If Damien finish 1st or 2nd, then get splattered in the first round then what? That means that the Sierra league is a bunch of south east teams pretending to be inland teams.

    1. Charter Oak, 1 or 2nd place in league, 2nd round dismantling by top inland team. CO fans how far will CO go in the inland playoffs?

    2. Damien 2nd or 3rd place in Sierra, 1st round dismantling by top Inland team. Can damien win a first round game in the inland?

    3. Chino hills, 1st or second place in Sierra, crap shoot in playoffs, close 1st round lose or goes to semis. I don’t know what to say, they do well in the inland, What do you say Huskies?

    4. St Paul, 1 upset Victory vs Pac 5 Bishop, 2nd place in league, 2nd round playoff lose. Can all the transfer play together?

    5. Wesco, Hacienda league champs, Semi Finals or better. Class of Southeast.

    6. 15-0 or goes 2-3 in Preseason, 3peat in Midvalley. Will be moved out of the Midvalley. We know this.

    7.Bishop Amat will get beat by one of the SGV teams…3rd place in Serra, 1st round down in Santa Margarita …Those toll roads suck. Bishop Am I hating or is this what you all calculate ?

    I challenge anyone, to make revisions to my predictions…You know Dam well, cute comebacks, personal attacks, and smoke and mirrors act are not going to cut it when you start talking about what’s going to happen come playoff time. No mtown is not losing to Sierra Canyon or Paraclete. Like I said, I can stomach anything said about The Green, but keep it real about your squad. I will do like Eminem in 8 mile.. I know Mtown is D11, weak league, etc.. etc…now what about your team. Give a honest opinion…Try it.. This blog is full of BA and CO fans who are happy with playing For #1 on Aram’s blog, Cuz the sure as hell ain’t serious about doing anything in their division, and never want to talk about that.

  • Sticky Green stuff …AKA El Gato

    SGV football…don’t act like we can’t predict the year for the top five teams…no I am not taking shots either…Make corrections if I am off base. Like I said the pressure is on the top 5. If you are who you think and say you are, then should have no problem improving on last years performance. In Monrovia, for us to improve,we must go 14-0 and possibly earn a state bid in Div 4. That’s all that matters. Monrovia is one two team in the Valley that has 4 teams from higher division on their preseason schedule. St Paul in the other, but Mtown is seperated by 4-9 divisions vs everyone they play. If you believe you are a true upper division team, then why complain and try to prove to everyone that your division is difficult. Everyone knows they are. The question is…is it too much for your team? After a while, Some teams will be back in the South east where we will be after this season. CO especially, if you storm through league like last year, then get splattered in the 2nd round, what does that say about your team and your league. If Damien finish 1st or 2nd, then get splattered in the first round then what? That means that the Sierra league is a bunch of south east teams pretending to be inland teams.

    1. Charter Oak, 1 or 2nd place in league, 2nd round dismantling by top inland team. CO fans how far will CO go in the inland playoffs?

    2. Damien 2nd or 3rd place in Sierra, 1st round dismantling by top Inland team. Can damien win a first round game in the inland?

    3. Chino hills, 1st or second place in Sierra, crap shoot in playoffs, close 1st round lose or goes to semis. I don’t know what to say, they do well in the inland, What do you say Huskies?

    4. St Paul, 1 upset Victory vs Pac 5 Bishop, 2nd place in league, 2nd round playoff lose. Can all the transfer play together?

    5. Wesco, Hacienda league champs, Semi Finals or better. Class of Southeast.

    6. 15-0 or goes 2-3 in Preseason, 3peat in Midvalley. Will be moved out of the Midvalley. We know this.

    7.Bishop Amat will get beat by one of the SGV teams…3rd place in Serra, 1st round down in Santa Margarita …Those toll roads suck. Bishop Am I hating or is this what you all calculate ?

    I challenge anyone, to make revisions to my predictions…You know Dam well, cute comebacks, personal attacks, and smoke and mirrors act are not going to cut it when you start talking about what’s going to happen come playoff time. No mtown is not losing to Sierra Canyon or Paraclete. Like I said, I can stomach anything said about The Green, but keep it real about your squad. I will do like Eminem in 8 mile.. I know Mtown is D11, weak league, etc.. etc…now what about your team. Give a honest opinion…Try it.. This blog is full of BA and CO fans who are happy with playing For #1 on Aram’s blog, Cuz the sure as hell ain’t serious about doing anything in their division, and never want to talk about that.

  • Observantcat

    What’s up Dessert Rat, I have always had respect for the Paraclete program as well as you have for the Monrovia program. Both teams have always been very underestimated throughout the years and now it’s our time to shine. No one can really predict who will end up playing on Dec. 11, 2012 but we all hope that are teams can live up to the hype that us fans put on them. I will come out and say that this is probably Monrovia’s best all around team in terms of Senior leadership, solid skill positions and even more important Defense. I know that Paraclete and Sierra Canyon will bring their A game to the playoffs, but we all know that playoffs can be very unpredictable in terms of team momentum and team progress. San Gabriel was no slouch and teams that come in believing they were going to be just another game left the playoffs early. Teams like Monrovia Sierra Canyon, and Paraclete should blaze a trail all the way to the Semi’s this season unless there are setbacks such as Injuries, or things that are beyond one teams control. This should be a great season for the Mid-Valley div.
    On a lighter not, I wanted to share an article by Eric Sondhiemer from the LA Times of one of our linebacking core. This is why most of us are so up on our team, These seniors are stepping up their game this year and Im sure they wont settle for anything less than another ring! Good luck and let the smack talking continue!

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/varsitytimesinsider/2012/07/football-monrovia-isnt-done-with-its-winning-ways.html

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    SGV FOOTBALL,

    Why I’m Drinking The Damien Kool-Aid, By Aram Tolegian

    1. They finally have a QB capable of making plays. He grew leaps and bounds as the season wore on last year and now he’s even having a big offseason.

    2. They are one of the very quickest teams around. Who is quicker or as quick? CO? WestCo? That’s about it as far as I’ve seen.

    3. Josh Savage is electric and could be top WR in the Valley when it’s all said and done.

    4. Gano is a fantastic play caller WHEN he has a QB. He’s got that now. No more of this power run game crap they ran the past two years. None of that was the Gano I know and now he’s told me he will be opening it up like he did at LA.

    I will never forget what a very astute observer once told me about Gano. He said if he could pick ANY coach in the SGV or in SoCal for that matter to call ONE play from the 5-yard line on 4th down with 2 seconds left in the game, it would be Gano. Go back to the LA-South Hills game in 2004 if you wanna see what I’m talking about. TD and 2-point conversion.

    5. I’ve spoken to several coaches this summer who said Damien was the best team they saw.

    Eh, my only reservations come on defense. If Hernandez is there, they are No. 1 in my book. Losing him hurts and now they will turn to some very young but talented guys and I’m just not sure you can do that and be successful in the Sierra.

    6. I’ve been told that this team isn’t soft like teams from the foothills can be. That’s big to me, because I’ve rarely seen MEAN Damien teams. In fact, I never have. Great kids, yes. But not the kinda guys you’d want to meet in a dark alley late at night, i.e. CO or WestCo.

    7. What’s the big stretch here? They lost to CH on a last-second play last year and they’re a better team this year. They beat a decent JSerra (PAC-5/Trinity League) last year on the road.

    It’s very close for me between CO, Damien and CH. EXTREMELY CLOSE. I lean CO because the offense has developed well and the defense when all hands are on deck is outta sight. CO is the most physically gifted team in the SGV. When anybody can find me a better-looking group, I will listen. Damien’s probably vs. CO might be that CO is just as quick and is definitely bigger across the board.

  • Desert Rat

    ObservantCat- Hello good friend. Trust me, we’re up on all things SGV and green. We know very well what lies ahead. We’re excited be back in the fish bowl. Like you, we have grown a lot since ’09. We have awesome pieces and a senior laden core that is explosive. I know there is a lot that can happen before winter, but the prospect of playing again gets me excited because win or lose, I know its gonna be a hard fought intense battle worth evey penny.

    As for the smack talk….I really don’t have much to say about Mtown because I respect them immensely. But when a certain poster steps out of line, you should know I’m gonna drop some knowledge.

  • STRENGTH of SCHEDULE

    Let’s take a look at each teams strength of schedule and separate the competitors from the phonies.

    1. 45.0 Bishop Amat
    2. 40.6 St.Paul
    3. 33.5 Chino Hills
    4. 32.0 St. Francis
    5. 28.4 Charter Oak
    6. 27.7 Damien
    8. 18.7 West Covina
    9. 13.4 La Mirada
    10 7.2 Monrovia

  • Strength of Schedule Revised

    Added La Habra!

    1. 45.0 Bishop Amat
    2. 40.6 St.Paul
    3. 33.5 Chino Hills
    4. 32.0 St. Francis
    5. 28.4 Charter Oak
    6. 27.7 Damien
    7. 18.7 West Covina
    8. 16.0 La Habra
    9. 13.4 La Mirada
    10 7.2 Monrovia

  • Observantcat

    While you’re looking up strength of schedule, look up strength of Scholarships. Then start separating the fools from the scholars.

  • Big Stage, Bright Lights!

    It’s Chrystal Clear that if you want to play in big televised games of significance then Bishop Amat and St. Paul has the biggest stage and the brightest lights!

  • AMAT 73

    Aram,
    A better question is do you see an Inland division team when looking at Damien ? And if so how far do you see them going in the playoffs ?

    Ocat,
    Scholarships are great but SOS is what will help you get to that state bowl all the Monrovians are invisioning . I don’t think they count scholies towards a berth but they are great to have for your program of which your coach is doing an excellent job . And you know as well as I do they don’t hand out athletic scholarships for excellence in the classroom , although it does help . Good luck to your Wildcats this season .

  • Observe these…

    Observantcat, you must be from either La Mirada or Monrovia…lol

  • Observantcat

    It’s Crystal Clear that playing under the bright lights and a large stage in high school doesn’t mean that it will transcend into playing on a much larger stage under much brighter lights. Playing in a Championship game or even a Semi=finals proves more to that effect, or and having the atheletes to compete on that much Bigger stage definitely helps.

  • Who Dat

    Damn, who does Monrovia play?

  • No Respect!

    Its very hard to get RESPECT when you dont play anybody!

  • Naked King

    The King Is Naked!

  • Highest-Rated 2012 Regular Season Opponents

    Bishop Amat
    Highest-Rated 2012 Regular Season Opponents*: Notre Dame (Sherman Oaks) (60.3), Alemany (Mission Hills) (56.2), Charter Oak (Covina) (51.1)

  • Highest-Rated 2012 Regular Season Opponents:

    St. Paul
    Highest-Rated 2012 Regular Season Opponents*: Mater Dei (Santa Ana) (56.6), Servite (Anaheim) (50.1), Chaminade (West Hills) (49.2)

  • Highest-Rated 2012 Regular Season Opponents

    Highest-Rated 2012 Regular Season Opponents*: St. Francis (La Canada) (37.6), Ayala [Ruben S.] (Chino Hills) (26.5), San Dimas (19.8)
    Lowest-Rated 2012 Regular Season Opponents*: Blair (Pasadena) (-42.3), La Canada (-7.2), Temple City (-5.5)

  • Observantcat

    Amat 73, Monrovia is in the process of stepping up its pre-season schedule and cannot help that CIF has not moved them out of the Rio Hondo League and the Mid Valley Div. But for what it is worth being that Monrovia is a public school, pound for pound we far out weigh the odds of attending any other program as far as having the ability to succeed in playing teams that are ranked in much higher div. As for Academic honors, It may surprise a lot of people as to just how gifted a lot of the players on the team are in terms of grades and test scores. I would say the same thing about any other program if they were to make strides to improve their program. Bishop Amat is a great school with great tradition and I’m sure just a great of an academic environment but saying that doesn’t make it any easier for college scouts to make daily visits if the Program is not as competitive as the competition and thats not to say that there are no atheletes good enough to go toe to toe with some of the kids who are getting that recognition, its just saying that playing on such a big stage under much brighter lights doesn’t always mean you are going to be seen. The Tribune is always going to be your best media source (AKA) Fred Robledo and he has done a hell of a job promoting BA over the past few years but the buck stops there. Every other news media seems to see Bishop as the team that was and can they make a comeback. I myself see playing high school football as a way out for a lot of kids with dreams to one day be under the big lights and playing in a college atmosphere. So when you step out of the San Gabriel Valley and say that you went to your home school and made it to the big times you are just as proud that if you were to go to Servite or De La Salle. Private schools aren’t for everyone but for some Football is their main objective and it shows aka Mater Dei, Orange Lu etc. It seems that everyone has chosen BA to pick on but in truth it’s the entire Serra league being looked at as suspect mainly because of the slim pickings of atheletes that want to attend private schools. Let;s just say the rich get richer in the private school game and that leaves no hope for those schools who dont have the means to truly compete on that scale little or no hope to do so. Say if Coach Assant’e rolled into Bishop Amat with all of his recruits, We would all be on the BA bandwagon but that simply not the case anymore. I wish all well in the end but never forget where the truth begins or ends in high school football.

  • I can’t belive parents send there kids to BA to play football

    How can you tell parernts and players the first meeting it’s not your job as a varsity football coach to get your player to the next level AKA make high light tapes ETC. i know alot of coaches during the football season making high light tapes for there players not going home to sleep till 3 OR 4 in the morning breaking down film making tapes for there players and tapes for players from diffrent schools. keep up the great work coach. MIKE M

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    AMAT73,

    Re: Damien

    That’s a very difficult question. If I’m looking at the team, then no, I don’t see a Inland Division team. If I’m looking at the school and the program and what it COULD become, then yes I do.

    I’m also having a hard time with Charter Oak. I know I’ve said that they’re a Southeast team masquerading in the Inland, but I’m starting to change my mind on that. As a school, CO is not an Inland Division school. But as a football program, which I’ve had a CIF official even tell me off the record that “come on, you know all decisions are based on football” I do see the Chargers as an Inland Division program more and more. The simple fact is every situation is unique and CO is very unique in that its football program is really starting to look like a private school program at a public school. Despite the Upland loss, I really don’t think the Chargers have been disgraced in the Inland (they banged with Rancho pretty well last year and destroyed Santiago). I just think there’s a ceiling on how far they can actually go in the postseason, which if you’re in the right division there shouldn’t be.

    I don’t think any Sierra League playoff team is far off from being considered a top-eight team in the Inland, but the gap between the top few teams in the Inland and the Sierra League playoff teams is vast.

    Chino Hills is a legit Inland team because of enrollment. Damien is semi-legit because of the advantages a private school can have IF things are working right. Outside of maybe the top 10-15 teams in SoCal, CO is good enough to bang with anyone talent-wise (I truly believe that). South Hills has no business being in the Inland. Ayala, meh. Claremont, not really.

  • Dan

    Spartan 4 life,
    Buddy your killing me! You do know that the Sierra teams are just Southeast teams in disguise don’t you? Thrown into a lions den of a division that is over their heads. Reasonable thinking shows that if West Co was in the Sierra in 2010 the title would have been between them and Chino Hills, in 2011 it would have been between WC and Charter Oak, if you disagree then tell me which other Sierra team would have beaten WC in those years and we can go from there.
    As for this year I think nobody here really knows squat till the games happen, but I tell you even with the numerous graduation losses WC had, which included the best backfield in the SGV, [Ha Ha, a little jab for the haters] I don’t see much of a drop off in Bulldog land come this fall. I keep reading good things about Damien and Ayala this summer, and good for you guy’s I actually like hearing about teams getting stronger, especially if they play against West Co, but you and I know that summer passing games don’t mean much. We’ll have to wait and see how your QB and speedy skill players do in pads with a defense closing on them, same goes for WC, lots of talent, lots of good looking skill but again lots of it is untested at the varsity level. Good luck though.

  • Football programs

    All this back and forth talking is getting old. All These programs are good and I would send my kid to anyone of them if he was a top athlete .i do believe you get better by facing the best competition .i do believe making the transition from high school to college would be easier for any top athlete attending there.sometimes when u play a weak schedule it can hurt your transition to college when every player u face is a top athlete . Amat faces future d 1 players on every game this year.so if my kid was a superior athlete I would choose amat . Now a days is not what school u go to . With all these combines and camps it’s easier to be seen by scouts .they see u at the combines and then u are under there radar .

  • Damien Koooool Aide

    OK Aram —- Who is going to carry that Damien Kool Aid? The biggest question for Damien is going to be their O-Line – You keep leaving that out of every analysis you give of how “good” their skill guy’s are and how “quick” they are. QB did improve, but if he is running for his life, it aint gonna happen. Savage is a great receiver, but he will need to show he is willing to catch a ball over the middle and play like the “big guy stud” receiver he “looks” like. Gano will open it up and has to because he will most likely not have a dominant running game. CO has a defense that can blitz the hell out of those confused linemen and cover those speedy receivers long enough for the hogs (oh yah, and a pissed off Alex Hernandez) to dismantle the QB or force him to “chuck” one up there to avoid the hit (he doesn’t like to take any big hits and he defintiely get’s rattled and happy feet). You don’t see that in summer PL when all these coaches are praising Damien.

    Defense – their corners are tough and definite lock down guy’s on both sides. They are going to get beat down the middle of the field. One new Safety is showing good strides and is tough (but no significant friday night lights time) other one was beaten badly all last year, same story. LB’s are a sore spot, one very tough returning guy, whose the other’s ? DL, well, they lost the best one, gonna break in a new Soph ANIMAL, but again, no Friday Night Lights for those pups. They are going to give up points and possibly play from behind most games (another reason Gano will have to open it up).

    Again – skill guy’s are very good over there (alas, the only thing you have seen so far). The younger classes had some size which was lacking in the past. But this year, right now, 4 weeks from now they will still lack the size to get them to #2. They also have a schedule which will get them beat up a little heading into League. South hills is the only breather (although I am not sold on Ayala as a good team yet), but SH has size which Damien can not match on either line.

    Hope they do play well and support your Kool Aid Addiction.

  • His Time Has Long Gone

    Aram,
    I agree with your comments but as far as things working right at Damien it wont be with right with an 85+ year old AD (the inexperience protg wont cut it either) running the athletic department.
    The AD at Damien is limiting all the major sports programs. His time has long gone and they should have made the change when they let Father Travers go. He is forgetful, lazy and flat out right miserable.
    People remember him for his past accomplishments but he is no longer capable of accomplishing many of those things anymore. Michael Jordon once had the most incredible set of basketball skills and he but he cant play anymore and doesnt belong on an NBA court. He should be remembered for being one of the best all time along with all his accomplishments. So should the AD at Damien. I know this is sad but its true and anyone who knows him knows it true.
    He can no longer perform his duties as AD. Many kids including mine have left Damien due to sports related activities or lack thereof. The data will show you this is true for all the major sports. The AD continues to place blame on the coaches when he is the person that needs to be held accountable. He needs to be removed effective immediately for the sake of all the student athletes at Damien.

  • St. Paul

    St. Paul got the BEST Running Back, 1st Team All CIF, KURT SCOBY (CO)and BEST CORNERBACK, 1st Team ALL CIF, CEDRICK FRANKLIN (LH) any many others. SP got a tough schedule but I think some of those teams are going to get a BIG Upset!

  • AMAT 73

    Ocat,
    What in the hell does all that have to do with SOS. All I was trying to point out is that the scholarships are great and all but a 7.2 regular season rank and state rank of 467 rating on SOS even with an undeafeted season might not be good enough.Also like someone wrote, with all these combines and camps put on for high school athletes and you tube highlights it’s much easier for scouts to notice athletes nowadays . Picture this , WC and Monrovia both go undeafted , I can tell you no one is going to look at how many offers those players on the teams have to make the decision on who goes bowling or not. What do you think ????? Many of you take what you read on these blogs as fact such as the Serra being dropped from the PAC-5 . Only on here in the fishbowl do you hear these things. You saw by the last reorganization by CIF , much to the sadness of the SGV AMAT stayed put. By the way how about some solid back up on that news media theory of yours. Where and when did you read that ???? If I am not mistaken , CO and AMAT are the only SGV teams to make the Fox GOTW recently aren’t they . And by your opening line you sound like AMAT people concerning our baseball division . But of course it’s ok for you to say something like that but when we do it concerning CIF not raising us in a higher division it’s all a cop out .Must be nice to get away with that kind of statement .

  • Bright Lights

    SCOBY and FRANKLIN went to St. Paul because of Strength of Schedule. Mater Dei, Servite, Bishop Amat, Chaminade and Serra. Three of those games are Televised. Bright Lights, Big City!

  • No Talent

    Thank you Aram. Once again we agree 100% with each others facts.

    Amat has a hand full of “nice” players. I’ll concede, but the problem is that we need 11 guys on the field at any one play. Amat just doesn’t have those other 6 or 7 players this year. We have a huge drop in talent after those 4 of 5 “nice” guys. Many teams (including the NY Knicks, the Okland Raiders, and the LA Clippers) have over the last 20 years have had a nice set of players but not enough depth (ie horses) win. Whats their winning % been in that 20 years? Amat just can’t compete with their 2012 schedule. What happens if 2 or 3 of these “nice” Duke bound players get hurt as they did last year and the year before and the years before that? Another 4 – 6 season? What about 2 – 8? I think you agree with me that a 2 – 8 Amat season is a very real possibility.

    I agree with you completely.

  • Not So Fast My Friend

    Bright Lights:

    Scoby and Franklin didn’t go to St. Francis cause of “strength of schedule.” They went because of promises made. Period. Otherwise, why pick St. Francis?

    It’s not because Mater Dei and Servite.

  • Bright Lights

    SCOBY and FRANKLIN go to St. Paul not St. Francis. What were they Promised? This is the first I have heard of the secret promise. Please do tell more…who made the promise? Did they get cars, houses, girls and money…if they did every kid is going to go to St. Paul and you can be the one that breaks this story first, right here on this blog…how exciting!!!

  • Green pastures aka “El Gato Monte”

    Highest Rated,

    Should Bishop Amat, Charter Oak, and all upper Division schools, get a pat on the back for playing schools in Their league, and Division…That’s who you are supposed to play. If you don’t beat those teams, does it really matter? Let’s have some horse sense. Here is some algebra for you. This based upon a straight preseason match up This is because, we are in Different leagues and different divisions.

    Variables
    A Servite
    B.Bishop Amat
    C.Monrovia
    D=Win

    D1-Servite(A) x D1-Bishop(B) = (D)Servite wins by 40

    D1-Servite(A) x D11 Monrovia(B) = (D)Servite wins by 40

    B = C How do you differentiate the values of two different Variables, when the answer is the same.

    Sierra canyon is Ranked 56 in state right now. if they are 13-0 when we meet them in the finals, they will be ranked even higher. If Monrovia beats them for a Div 11 title, that would be a top notch win over one of the best teams in Socal? If you are going to use power Rankings, you have to use them all the way. You can’t list all the rankings for teams scheduled and not use the state rankings(Which the strength of schedule is calculated along with it.) Either you use it all or none. It’s ok to use the data to belittle D11 schools, but you won’t use the same data that has a lower school ranked higher than other upper division schools. Because everybody can’t play each other, we really don’t know who would win every game, their are going to be some upsets.

    Football programs,

    Please define better?

    I would send my kid to school school that is winning and players are getting rides.

    Mtown had 3 last year, and will have 5-6 this year… and we have at least 3 Jrs and 4 sophomores who will be getting a look very soon. Mtown has it going on right now.

  • Bright Lights

    SCOBY and FRANKLIN go to St. Paul not St. Francis. What were they Promised? This is the first I have heard of the secret promise. Please do tell more…who made the promise? Did they get cars, houses, girls and money…if they did every kid is going to go to St. Paul and you can be the one that breaks this story first, right here on this blog…how exciting!!!

  • Bright Lights

    SCOBY and FRANKLIN go to St. Paul not St. Francis. What were they Promised? This is the first I have heard of the secret promise. Please do tell more…who made the promise? Did they get cars, houses, girls and money…if they did every kid is going to go to St. Paul and you can be the one that breaks this story first, right here on this blog…how exciting!!!

  • Unable to remember

    @ Amat 73
    When exactly was the last time Amat was the Fox GOTW? The last time I remember Amat being on the Fox GOTW was about 5 years ago Vs. DRanch.

  • Real talk

    @el gato monte I don’t think Monrovia is even a variable they never played Servite and never will. Oh I get it it’s like algebra where you have a formula that just comes out of nowhere SMH lol…… people in here trying so hard.

  • Unable to remember

    Amat73
    Scratch that last question. I think the last time Amat was the Fox GOTW was Amat Vs Alemany 2010.

  • Football programs

    @ green pastures . It’s not Monrovia getting them the scholarships . They would get the scholarship anywhere they go because they are top players. At amat they would get better because the players they face are if the same caliber and will prepare them for the next level . Don’t acted like its because Monrovia that they are getting looked at.

  • Exposure

    Not only Fox GOTW but how many times has Amat been on one of the CIF we broadcasts vs any other SGV school. By at least 5 to 1

  • Nice Post!

    Best post of this new football season was from: Damien Koooool Aide

    Perfect analysis I agree completely!!

  • AMAT 73

    green cat,
    Where did you learn your math. Are you a product of math at Monrovia High School. Hell I’ve been out of school 40+ years and my math skills are still intact , what happened to yours. That is some figuring to get to B=C . Talk about cooking the books , we should call you Chef Gordon Ramsey after all that fire and smoke . You cannot use formulas outside of the rules of math to get the answer suited to your liking . Too many variables involved to just use the old A is better than B and A better than C so B and C must be equal . And believe me Servite would pound you by a lot more than 40 . Just stick to what you know best which is Monrovia football because when it comes to football outside of that it shows you are in over your head by your Algebraic theory you used . By the way who is C because you have both AMAT and Monrovia as B in your formulas . So who are we both equal to . Now your in it as we will see public vs private in the academic forum , and I’ll spot you the years I’ve been out of the class room .

  • Impact

    Who are these super sophs I keep hearing about for Damien? Will they really make a impact for the Spartans?

  • Green pastures aka “El Gato Monte”

    Servite probably would not play Monrovia, but they probably will never play Bishop Again. Do you think Servite got better beating up on Bishop? What about SM? If So what did they learn? I think you are trying hard…Basically, could any body else do worse in those games? So, what is BA going to teach Servite this year, how to get grass stains of the back of jerseys…Now I think your trying hard to convince yourself, something…what that is I don’t know. Because according to my calculations you could plug any of the top SGV teams(Except La Habra) into my algebraic formula and get the same answer plus or minus a Touch down. The only team servite beat worse than BA was the lowly LB Wilson team 41-3, and at least they did not give up 49…At least LB Wilson is a D1 powerhouse in Baseball…

    Mirror Mirror on the wall who is worst Pac 5 team of them all….Well BA is in the Conversation for 2012!

    Football programs…Then why does BA have only 1 player going D1? Didn’t that Pac 5 comp get them better. Besides all the Mtown players have over 3.0 GPA’s and aced the SAT’s. Bryant accepted Harvard, Walsh offered by Northwestern. It looks like Mtown AP classes are preparing our kids, just like Bishop’s AP classes produce excellent students as well. Colleges don’t care where people went to school, besides they are getting scholarships because they go to camps and do well, like all the rest of the pac 5 players. News flash, The Army All American team wouldn’t beat The Division 2 National champs, so whatever point you are trying to prove saying the “Pac 5 prepares your for college” is BS. Don’t act like because they are at Bishop They are going to get better than anyone else or earn a scholarship. Some of those guys I saw in the 3-way from BA couldn’t buy a scholarship if they were being sold on EBay. Keep it coming Football programs…as long as you are arguing with your lancer 3D glasses on you will never win. Mtown had 3 players last year and Bishop Had two…Next year Monrovia will have more people sign than the lancers again….Face it the SGV Talent has decided to Go to Schools playing in Div 2-11…or Alemany. You guys are too expensive, and paying to lose sucks!

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball/2012/07/all-encompassing-sgvn-top-25-post-passing-circuit.html#comments Lupe

    Was Ayala really young last year? I saw them play Los Altos( @ home ), they were pretty average on O and a weak defense. not hating…just a question.

  • Green pastures aka “El Gato Monte”

    Amat 73 Forgive me for the typo…typing from work, Thanks math teacher lol. Now its correct.

    Variables
    A Servite
    B.Bishop Amat
    C.Monrovia
    x=Win

    D1-Servite(A) x D1-Bishop(B) = (x)Servite wins by 40

    D1-Servite(A) x D11 Monrovia(C) = (x)Servite wins by 40

    B = C How do you differentiate the values of two different Variables, when the answer is the same.

    Hey now you are arguing if Servite would be a D11 team by more than 40…lol you should be Ashame. The whole point is…I am sure Monrovia can throw a hail mary to the back of the endzone and score, I am sure they could do it twice…you know if Servite does not fumble, you only would have scored 7.. If you lose by 40 does it matter anymore. Servite took out their starters in the 3rd quarter…I was there..you can BS those who were not there.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNR0oC_tsKQ

    Mtown got their @$$ kicked by San Dimas last year…Go find that Video I will puke over that! If they make it to finals, we beat them by 40…Time to go to the southeast. But other than that Monrovia held their own against upper division schools on their schedule.

  • Real talk

    I knew a lot of hate came from the tuition at Amat. That’s what I am picking up here with at lest monrovia is free and it is to expensive and pay to play comments. I had posted on other blogs concerning this I now I know it is a issue.

  • Not So Fast My Friend

    Bright Lights:

    St Paul. St Francis was a typo. But does it really matter? The point is the point.

    Another thing, let’s not be a dork about it. Do the math.

    Scoby is at another program. Top notch from the posts on this blog. He leaves for a more faith based program. That’s fine. Nothing wrong with that.

    Franklin is at another program. He leaves and goes to St Paul. Or was he already there, I can’t remember because I don’t follow either program.

    The common denominator is a new coach. A new coach with a reputation. Good or bad. That depends on what side of the street you stand on. So how does a brand new coach pull two players from other programs? A coach who it was generally believed was on the prowl for more. How do you pull that kid? A promise.

    If you want to know what specifically, go ask him. Otherwise, the tea leaves are right in front of you. Enough so you don’t need Ray Charles to help you see it.

  • Reality Says

    To Impact:

    The super sophs at Damien are pretty average. A couple of them look very small. My son will be a freshman at Damien this upcoming year and I have been watching the football team practice. I really don’t see anything spectacular there. I keep hearing how good the team will be, but I don’t see a big difference from last year. The biggest difference in my opinion is that the QB looks sharper. He seems to be throwing very well. I went to all the home games for Damien last year and they were avergae then, and I hope we do better, but don’t expect a huge difference. I’m just being realistic here, and setting the real expectations.

  • Real talk

    @el gato monte why do you care about Amat? Monrovia will never step up and play Amat. You guys are not even on Amats radar. You will never play on Amats field and Amat will not ever step foot on Your field so you don’t have to even waste your time and effort.

  • Observantcat

    Realtalk, Monrovians can certainly afford to go to Bishop Amat if they chose to whether it be for sports or educational purposes. As a matter of fact you can go to your school and check the enrollment and see that there are quite a few Monrovians attending Amat, St. Francis, Damien, and several more local private schools in the Pasadena area have lots of Monrovia students enrolled. And you may be right about not ever playing Amat anytime soon because if they are to get exposed to the level that most critics think they will be you might just get passed up by the Big Boys. As far as playing a team like Servite, Monrovia’s athleticism alone would have kept that score within more reason that what I saw from Amat. And lastly, using San Dimas as an example could be barking up the wrong tree, because in all reality they aren’t that far off from your talent pool. Several of those San Dimas players could have made a huge difference in Amats roster. Let the air out of your Ego so that you can see past your blue and gold crystal ball, all we see is smoke.e5jf3s

  • No Talent

    Real Talk Obama

    Don’t change the point of discussion. This has nothing to do with tuition and everything to do with the fact that Amat has no talent to compete on the football field with the elite SGV teams. You skirting the issue but the facts remain.

  • SOS

    Strength of Schedule Revised Again

    Added Ayala, Claremont, Glendora, South Hills

    1. 44.48 Bishop Amat
    2. 40.10 St.Paul
    3. 33.80 Glendora
    4. 32.40 Chino Hills
    5. 30.92 St. Francis
    6. 30.77 South Hills
    7. 27.27 Charter Oak
    8. 26.60 Damien
    9. 26.11 Ayala
    10. 23.63 Claremont
    11. 17.42 West Covina
    12. 15.18 La Habra
    13. 13.18 La Mirada
    14. 6.94 Monrovia

  • Real talk

    @ EL PUSSYCAT MONTE After seeing the SOS Rankings you should be ashamed of your self!!! Talking as if Monrovia is all that. Come ooon maaan who do you guys play????? Chris Carter voice SMH lol I’m done with you!!!

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    Can you refine the SOS to only nonleague schedule? Because I think Monrovia is being weighted down by the Rio Hondo League, i.e. my Temple City Rams and Blair.

    I think their nonleague schedule is pretty solid.

  • What’s the deal

    Like whittier said, can someone tell me why SP is rank soooo high…they haven’t made the playofsf like forever.

  • AT EVERYONE

    It is amazing that the blog repeats the same old crap all day every day. From Realtalk to El Gato , Amat73 etc etc etc. You all just repeat the same old Bull Dung. If Amat was to move to a lower division the Bishop Amat haters would beat them over the head if they began winning again. You guys are just a bunch of whiners and you remind me of some single women who cant wait to watch another episode of As the World Turns or the Guiding Light.

    Why dont you look for players that rep the SGV well, its easy to hit these teams with your vitriol but it really gets old and tiring?

    1) Bishop Amat isnt what it used to be
    2) Monrovia Doesnt play anyone
    3) CEEEE OOOO
    4) SERVITE is gonna run all over Amat
    5) Aram is a Hater
    6) Fred is Biased toward Amat
    7) DIV 11 and so on and so on and so on
    I dont really like or have anything positive to say about my school because it truly isnt what it once was. But If I were a Monrovia Parent, Alum, Resident Id be pretty pissed that all that is said on the blog about their program is they dont play anyone, which is STUPID. Why does it matter they have 5 or 6 kids that will be playing Div 1 BCS football next year. What other school(s) can say that, and if they can we should be given them praise for it. I wonder if there is really only one blogger who just changes his moniker

  • SMH

    Not so fast, I thought you had some real good gossip and rumor to share. You are just talking out the hole in your neck. You don’t follow either program and you dont know if Franklin was already there or not, but you came to the conclusion that the new coach made a PROMISE! SMH, Why don’t you just make up the whole story? Add some lurid details. Don’t tell a small lie go all out. C’mon Man you got to do better than that…lol

  • SOS

    Non-League SOS in parenthesis and new rank

    1. 44.48 (40.86) Bishop Amat #2
    2. 40.10 (42.84) St.Paul #1
    3. 33.80 (28.06) Glendora #6
    4. 32.40 (35.10) Chino Hills #4
    5. 30.92 (25.16) St. Francis #10
    6. 30.77 (27.44) South Hills #7
    7. 27.27 (26.80) Charter Oak #8
    8. 26.60 (22.44) Damien #12
    9. 26.11 (19.64) Ayala #13
    10. 23.63 (13.76) Claremont #14
    11. 17.42 (31.75) West Covina #5
    12. 15.18 (25.44) La Habra #9
    13. 13.18 (36.00) La Mirada #3
    14. 6.94 (22.76) Monrovia #11

  • Green Pastures….

    Real talk, every time you open your Mouth, someone from Monrovia gets a offer or commits to a Big time program. For the time being, Every time Monrovia is mention it’s either about a ” League title,CIF Title and State Title” and “Scholarship”. Has it always been like that …No. Will it always be like that. I don’t know. However, Right Now it is. What can anyone around these parts say? How, can you speak negatively about that? The Scouts watch tape, they know about the “Rio Hondo”, and “D11″, and “Strength of Schedule”…They Also know About “Pac 5″ and the “Serra” league and Lining up Against “Servite” the “best of the best of the best Sir”! They see things differently than “Honks”, who can’t see that High School football is just that “High school” . 17 year olds playing ball. They go from school to school picking the best one’s. Whether it’s Bishop Amat, Charter Oak, Or lil ol Monrovia. More people are starting to realize that. So post all your lil cal prep stats, and I’ll post things like this… The last 20 seconds of this clip is interesting…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETjzxGF57gE

  • Dan

    Non league strength of schedule, I like it better as it’s own separate list. LOL

    1 – St Paul 42.84
    2 – Bishop Amat 40.8
    3 – La Mirada 36
    4 – Chino Hills 35.10
    5 – West Covina 31.75

  • SOS

    League Ratings (Cal Preps)

    Trinity League (PAC-5) 53.56

    Serra League (PAC-5) 48.64

    Baseline League (Inland) 36.11

    Southwestern League (Inland) 35.83

    Sierra League (Inland) 31.38

    Big VII (Inland) 24.21

    Hacienda League (Southeast) 7.20

    Valle Vista League (Mid-Valley) -.42

    Rio Hondo League (Mid-Valley) -2.5

  • Green Pastures….
  • LMFAO

    Now that is frickin’ hilarious. The Rio Hondo is MINUS TWO POINT FRICKIN’ FIVE!!! And the Mildcats big competiton comes from the Valle Vista at MINUS POINT FOUR TWO!!! That would be like Brett Walsh bragging about his 4.3 and only taking remedial courses.

  • Not So Fast My Friend

    @SMH

    You don’t need to “make up” anything when a reputation precedes you. And here’s one more coal for your fire, coaches all talk. Some gossip and some passionately speak the truth.

    You don’t need to follow a program when you have those two.

    Having said that, I don’t gossip.

  • DETAILS

    You dont gossip!!!Why you sure arent passionately speaking the truth. You threw a rock at the coach about a PROMISE he made to Scoby and Franklin and now everyone is waiting on the details that you passionately speak about. You all ready threw the coach under the bus with inuendo about a so called PROMISE. Finish up the job man, run him over with the bus…GIVE US DETAILS!!!

  • Observantcat

    LMFAO, keep laughing, because we are laughing with you. Its easy to laugh when your a blogging joke. Keep on laughing and we will keep on laughing with you.

  • Green Pastures…El Gato Verde
  • 52-56

    52-56 Combined record of Monrovias opponents

  • Greenie Cat Vs Hater with 20 screen names and counting….
  • ASSCLOWN HIGHLIGHTER

    M-town Haters please listen up I have sat here patiently listening to your continuous rant, well Im about to drop some knowledge on all of you m-town hating ASSCLOWNS. Most of you if not all of you that hate on the Wildcats have one common tune you all sing which is Monrovia Doesnt play anybody they play in Div 11. Well Ill it admit that on Friday Nights they dont play anybody but on Saturdays next fall (2013) at least 6 of them Wildcats will be playing in the Pac 12, Big 10, Big 12, Mountain West, The WAC or Mid American. Now they may not be able to compete and play in Sierra League, the Pac5 or Div 1 SCAL football but they all sure as hell can play on Saturdays. Do you ASSCLOWNS really know how idiotic and stupid you all sound with the nonsense. Please let this be the last time you ass clowns state that M-town play is in Div 11 and they dont play anyone. Who gives a flying !@#$ looks like m-towns players are looking to play on Saturdays and thats a fact.

  • 21 Screen Names

    That is very impressive! Monrovia has done an excellent job of getting their kids out. Although Monrovia is very talented and can compete with top level teams the fact is they don’t. Im not hating, just reporting facts. 52-56. 6.94 strength of schedule.

  • Reality

    ASSCLOWN – i betcha the “haters” will stop coming out when the “braggarts” give it a rest. Stick to what you do – not what you THINK you could do.
    We hear 15-0, State Titles, beating upper division teams – but MHS has done none of that. At least the Bishop Amat people talk about what they do and have done – not what they might do.
    What I’ve seen over time is Bishop Amat puts out more D1 boys – it’s just that they breed two sport athletes. All the way back to guys like Adam Simon and Mike Lang, who could have been D1 football players but chose baseball, and recently you have guys like Jay Anderson, Wallace Gonzales, and Rio Ruiz chose D1 or pro baseball deals. i think the numbers probably stack up. Who are the 6 “saturday players” from Monrovia you allude to?

  • Observantcat

    Unreality aka Serious ASS CLOWN, You make BA Stink, You spew with Jealousy and envy and cant stand the fact that Monrovia has Better Opportunities in football than your guys. Get a grip or a job for that matter. Go get your blood pressure checked because like Jack Nicholson said “YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH”

  • El Gato Verde
  • ASSCLOWN HIGHLIGHTER

    Do us all a favor and name the kids from the schools listed below have offers to play at the next level, not Letter from Colleges!!!!! OFFERS. Then ask yourself another question would you rather play for Servite, Bishop Amat, Santa Margarita, South Hills, Arcadia, San Dimas, and never play college and just live with the fact that youre a SGV high school football legend. Yes it can be said that many of you are comfortable with the great distinction of Monrovia plays in DIV 11. High football is a means to getting to the next level, therefore I believe the M-town faithful can live with the continuous criticism of playing in Div 11 while sending their best Studs to Div 1 Colleges.

    Envy is a terrible thing there isnt a team listed below that has more than 3-4 players who have offers to play Div 1 Football. As stated before who gives a flying !@#$ what DIV you play in HS football.
    1.Charter Oak. Bryce Bobo
    2.Damien.
    3. Chino Hills. Simienko, Jack Austin
    4. St. Paul –.Scooby
    5. West Covina –.
    6. Monrovia Craft, Frazier, Bryant, Walsh, Heyworth, Miravet
    7. Bishop Amat –.Darren Andrews
    8. La Habra –.
    9. St. Francis –.
    10. La Mirada —
    11. La Serna –.
    12. San Dimas —
    13. Ayala –.
    14. South Hills —
    15. Claremont –.
    16. Diamond Ranch –.
    17. Maranatha –.
    18. Cantwell –.
    19. Arcadia –.
    20. Northview –.
    21. San Gabriel –.
    22. El Monte –.
    23. Arroyo –.
    24. Pasadena –.Brandon Cox
    25. Duarte — Telifero

  • Reality

    ASSCLOWN- how about this. Once again, Monrovia is talking about things that have not happened yet. An “offer” becomes becomes serious whenn a kid “signs” – the it becomes REALITY when the kid actually qualifies and attends. How about you deal with that. Go ahead and talk about the successes that already HAVE happened. Then ot’s not speculation and bragging – it’s a fact. So here’s your opportunity. Last 5-10 years list the MHS guys “playing on Saturdays” – or beyond.

  • Offers

    It’s not because Monrovia they are getting offers. Those players would still get them at amat,Co,Ch,damien,D ranch.monrovia is lucky to have that top talent .

  • ASSCCLOWN HIGHLIGHTER

    @ Reality:

    Do you know how absolutely pitiful you sound. From this day forward your band from the blog and youll never get a response from me. You are just piss and vinegar and a full blown clown, blowing ass fume from your GATEMOUTH

    @Offer: At least youre not talking about DIV 11

  • Monrovia Faithful

    If I were a Monrovia faithful, I too would be pissed off at all the negativity being spewn. Monrovia has won championships and gotten their athletes D1 Scholarships. However, Its up to the Monrovia Coaches to schedule more “Aggressively” and the AD to petition for Monrovia to move up to the Western Division. Until that happens many will discount your championships because of the very low level of competition.

  • Amat Fan El Numero Uno

    @reality, don’t forget to add Alcantera to that football player gone baseball list. Also I think that by the end of this season, Valasquez, Daniels, Blue, Pontikes and Carillo may be added to this list and new comers like Prieto, Gonzalez and Camargo will be getting some attention too. Not all is as it seems in Lancerville.

  • Wow that hurt

    I just heard a ballon POP. Lol -2.5 that has to be wrong how in the word do you go minus 2.5?

  • Amat Fan El Numero Uno

    Wow, all that happened while I wrote my post? Why don’t we ALL stop slamming the accomplishments and good fortunes that are coming to these student athletes? It’s one thing to argue football and leagues and divisions and games played but leave the individual players out of it. At some point, and I think this blog has reached it, this all starts to sound pretty ridiculous and petty. Just win baby! At any level! Good Luck to all! This should be a great season. Lot’s of Bragging rights on the line this year!

  • Reality

    ASSCLOWN – so now it’s official then? Monrovia refuses to talk about facts and things that have actually happened and what much rather speculate on what could happen. At least we now know. It should be a simple question really. List the Monrovia players who are ACTUALLY playing on Saturdays at the college level, or even who have in the last 5-10 years. Maybe a more knowledgable Monrovia braggart can help him.

  • Damien Koooool Aide

    OK, lets have some fun and analyze the top teams with no Ceeee Ohhhh colored glasses and no Blue and Gold Ray Bans covering up reality. Not a honk from either school, and not a Damien dude either, but know these kids intimately as well as the teams. Already did the #2 Damien analysis.

    #1Charter Oak
    Strength Defense absolutely positively, probably (hahaha) the best back seven returning in the Valley. You can cut the crap Amat fans, you know damn well just about every one of these kids would be starting at Keifer if they were wearing another Blue and Gold uni. Dont start with we like our guys, yep I know you do, you have to say that, but dont discount the talent of these kids because they are not the almighty Pac-5 almost all of them would be playing for you if they were in La Puente instead of Covina.
    DBs are all tough and returning . Garcia, Vaughns (see prob for offense), Washington (see prob for offense), Green (see prob for offense), etc are get after it DBs who have experience. LBs, these guys are EXTREMELY tough and are as good as it gets in valley. Ortiz & Bonilla cause serious issues. DL was good, got even better with Hernandez going back. All in all, one of the BEST RETURNING defenses in valley and really as Aram said, solidifys the #1 Ranking as you wont be there without a D.

    Offense —- ok Ceee Ohhh folks, you can smoke whatever you want, you can keep proclaiming, we will go with who is here, we like our guys. blah blah blah you were hurt carrying the rock when Scoby left to pursue his own best interests kid is a loose cannon, we ALL know that, but when you hand him the rock, look out. Now, who is gonna carry the rock consistently. Garcia, Vaughns, Green, Washington — oooops, didnt I see those names somewhere else, YEP, the strength of your defense. Well, can they be the Strength of your D and carry your O ??? that is the question. Bobo is a stud Receiver, one of the best in the valley, Washington splits it out wide, but you dont have anything near a Santiago in your stable. Not even a Santiago from his SOPH year. Brown is OK, Barrera, hell, if he is under center the rest of the Sierra league just took a resounding sigh of relief. Bottom line, the strength of COs offense the last couple of years has been the fear of Santiagos feet as well as his arm. Then it was Scoby and his ability to carry the rock, well, now defenses are not going to worry about either QB hurting them (maybe Brown turns into that) but he has zero significant experience doing that and can either one of them consistently get the ball into the hands of the playmakers outside. Bobo is very good, but will he be good if teams can cover over the top if they are not worried about someone else or scared about the run or the QB taking off. That is the question. Answer it, you deserve #1 all year, dont, and your defense is going to have to throw up shutouts.. probably going to give up a few to Los Alamitos can score, Chino Hills, Amat will always find ways to score, and Damien in final game will probably have things moving. What I will give you, is one of the BEST OCs around, his ability to scheme gives you a slight advantage with the weapons you have, that is good !

  • Green pastures aka “El Gato Monte”

    Well the games start very soon. We all can see what happens then.

  • Games is that you cask them

    @EL kitty cat monte good luck in -2.5 league. It will be a tuff season.

  • Um ok

    @EL kitty cat monte good luck in -2.5 league. It will be a tuff season.

  • Damien Koooool Aide

    Asss….ah whatever. Gotta take a side note.

    Monrovia Honks… you come on banging the AMAT honks for all their “WE ARE…. BS” WE DID…BS and now you are right there with them. JESUS…..

    Congrats, you guy’s have YOUR DREAM CLASS. Everyone knows things go in WAVES. You have 5 (potentially) D1 guy’s this year. Man that is GREAT, Congrats. Awesome. But why do you want to continue to Jump Up on that Soap Box pound your chests and give everyone else A TARGET TO SHOOT AT…. save it for December when this Dream Class runs the Table…. then jump up and shout to the mountains… and remember, things go in cycles.

    Hell maybe it is just a rougue parent cuz even the never short on words Mr. KB, and other MonRovian old timers are keeping their heads down….

    It is AWESOME for these kids! also, I love how you jump on the Heyworth bandwagon, too damn funny, he SHUNNED YOU ALL and went to St. Francis like his brother. only came back with his tail between his legs to Monrovia after he wasn’t gonna make it at old SF, now you throw him in their with your local grown, stay home talent. Like monrovia made him what he is. dont’ get me wrong, I am not poking fun at him, he is a good kid, more at all you honks who raise him up on your Green & White Pedestal as he returned as a prodigal son.

    And YOU AMAT HONKS with your who do they PLAY, come up with us Big Boy’s and then talk smack… crap. Here is the Deal —- ALL THOSE KIDS would be starting in La Puente (ooops with the exception of one WR/K) and you know it. Sure, they didn’t want to go to AMAT for whatever reason, but don’t start the they don’t want to compete crap, they have been competing in the Camps & Combine circuit which, oh by the way, is FAR MORE DIFFICULT than the confines of Kiefer and the practice field in La Puente —- AND WON BOY’S ! and they did see some of your guy’s out there too, where they gonna B…. oh yah, I forgot, Playing Pac 5 Football for the next few months, then done….

    Why all the hate, hell now I’m doing it — :)

  • 1st and goal

    @ ASSCLOWN HIGHLIGHTER

    your only fact is that those talented indivuals have been recruited to play at the next level of D1 college football. That is in no way a guarentee that they will start, much less play. They need to prove themselves amongst all the other recruits that they brought up to be a part of their program from wherever else in the country. So before you go on and boast about where they are representing, wait and see where they are on the roster before you brag about them “playing” on Saturdays. Its on thing to get invited to the dance. its another to be asked to dance “on stage”. Good luck to all of them.

    64sx6c

  • Damien get slacked by Amat

    Why isn’t Damien playing Amat any more? I had fun watching them play.

  • Proof?

    We’ve seen many offers that do not pan out. Tons of kids have offers but never sogn that NLI and others don’t make it for whatever reason and end up at JC or below. I’d like to know who has really made it from Monrovia

  • Green Pasture…days that million screen names guy won’t have anything to blogg about.
  • Green Pasture…days that million screen names guy won’t have anything to blogg about.
  • Greenie Cat Vs Hater with 20 screen names and counting….
  • Bisho Amat Excuse #1,000,001

    @Reality – So now Bishop Amat is a baseball school…? LMFAO!

    Why because you finally realized that your football team sucks? Or is that you realize that you don’t belong in PAC5 football. Or that you can’t handle the truth about the down fall of your “has been” team? Well how convenient is that? You Amat Fans are stupidly funny. Neither Anderson or Gonzales got any legit offers for Football. That is a fact that even Fred Robledo has to agree with! And we all know what happend between Ruiz and SC. Reality, next time keep your pants on! None of these guys got offers so now Amat is baseball school? LMFAO!

    When was the last time an Amat footballer got a legit D1 scholly offer? Exactly! Monrovia has more in 1 year than you have had in the last 10 years! How sad is that for you and beloved historic program?

  • Feel sorry for….

    Man just leave green pastures alone I just feel bad for him. It has already been shown they don’t play nobody really I mean nobody -2.5 and he has no proof of anyone doing big things on the next level from Monrovia. Its like kicking a little dog that thinks it a big dog. Nothing left to say that we havnt heard.

  • Anonymous

    Feel sorry for

    Are you still talking about who they play and so on. check out their signings obviously to who it matters like Northwestern and Colorado Division 1 schools they dont give a rats A#$ about who they play. Their kids are getting out can you say that about your program i dont think so all summer all you hear about is the Monrovia, CO and a few other SGV lower level schools kids, we dont hear much from your PAC5 studs now do we. Maybe its because you guys play hard teams or in a tough league i dont know but what i do know is if thats the case then playing in the PAC5 aint worth it

  • Yup

    @reality you mean the Rio Ruiz that got 1.85 million? That kid that hit a home run out if Dodger stadium in high school against Steve garvey son that was funny as heck by the way to see all the Amat haters faces at the game when he did that. Well you have done what? Now that some reality for your &$$

  • Don’t Know AKAK

    @Proof?

    You say they “end up at JC or below”

    Educate us…what is below JC football? Did your boy go on to play GED football? Continuing Education football? Are UEI and ITT offering schollys for football?

    You dumb azz…

  • COMMON SENSE

    COMMON SENESE!!!!

    RIO HONDO PREP has a 33.15 point power rating on CALPREPS

    MARANATHA has a 15.5 point power rating on CALPREPS

    MARANATHA!!!!!!!!
    pleasseeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

    get yourself straight!

    RIO HONDO PREP WOULD BEAT #17 and under no DOUBT!!!

  • Greenie Cat Vs Hater with 20 screen names and counting….

    I feel sorry for this…

    #1 Vs #3 in Pac 5 play…Not Midvalley vs Inland, But Pac5 vs Pac5…Big Boy vs Big Boy.

    http://www.insidesocal.com/tribpreps/2011/09/friday-countdow-9.html

  • Levels of play

    AKAK ,

    I guess you don’t really get how the JC thing works so much. Ever been out to MSAC? They send a dozen+ guys to scholarship levels every year. As far as athletic ability and potential those guys are well above most D3 and many D2/NAIA programs.

  • Not Since 1995

    Wow….how the mighty have fallen…! LMFAO…

    Is big bad PAC 5 Bishop Amat Lanceturds actually arguing with lil ol Monrovia…?

    Wow…how embarrassing could that possibly be for all the Amat Blowhards like MRSDOUBTFIRE73, and JoeAmat, and BURROAZ..?

    You ignorant Lancers! Do you realize how stupid you look to the rest of the SGV? What have you done in the last 17 years that you can brag about? Really…I want your list of great accomplishments in your division! Meantime, the Wildcats are bragging because they have won ring(s) against the competition that’s on their schedule. The boys can’t help who does the scheduling. Can they? They’re happy for their kids who are getting offers. How many offers do you have? And don’t give us Alcantara could have or Daniels is good enough crap! They didn’t offers and thats the truth…! How about last year? How about the year before that?

    Amat…really! You have dropped below the scumm that I already new that you are! Try wiining! Then you can brag! Until then losing gets you No Street Cred here in the SGV…!

    Not in 2012 Either….

    .

  • Green pastures aka “El Gato Monte”

    Ruiz is one of the best Baseball players in SGV history, hands down…I respect his game, and I also think he could have been a D1 prospect in Football at QB/WR…however read this!

    http://www.insidesocal.com/tribpreps/2012/05/baseball-playof-2.html

  • I agree

    Amat fans you should leave little Monrovia alone. You can’t go any lower than picking on a team not 1 not 2 but 10 div lower than you guy shame on you.

  • Don’t Know AKAK

    @Levels Of Play

    That’s great MSAC City College sends 12 guys every year. What happens to the other 123 “Dummy Bags” that suit up with those scholarship “Student-Athletes” from MSAC City College? And if those 12 “are well above most D3 and many D2/NAIA programs” why didn’t they get picked up in those below JC levels before or after they’re playing at the JC level? I know…its the money right? You’re wrong! You Johns Hopkins (D3) would take a MSAC kid? How about Williams? HarveyMudd? LOL dude! You’re wrong!

    You dumb azz…

  • Amat vs Monrovia

    Amat and Monrovia should schedule in 2013. That would be a classic game of under acheiver vs over acheiver. Who do you guys think would win that game? lmao!!!

  • Real talk

    @not since 1995 you are the most flattering person to Amat. It is said ” to be hated is a luxury” if Amat would have never won a title they would not be on your mind or in people’s conversations. My favorite saying ” if your not hated then your a nobody” I think I would start to worry if you didn’t post year after year. I feel much better when I see you on blogs because I know Amat is still a somebody if not why all the attention.

  • Monrovian #1

    Are we now comparing Amat football to MSAC? What’s going here? Let’s not start insulting MSAC by reducing them to Amat’s level.

    MSAC wins and they win consistently! What’s Amat done in the last 20 years?

    THANK YOU!

  • Dr Green Patures M.D.

    I agree,

    here is some information about your condition…

    http://www.schizophrenia.com/

    Win a league title, and call me in the morning.

  • Not Since 1995

    Real Talk (aka Lancelot)

    Lets get one thing straight and very clear:

    The entire SGV hates Bishop Amat Fans and you’re definately a NOBODY!

    You haven’t been a “Somebody”. Not Since 1995…! And you won’t be any time soon!

    Not in 2012 Either…

    .

  • Spartan 03

    How about we just make High School Football year round and play 5 games a week. No league, division, or state boundaries. Everyone plays everyone at least once, only the strong survive, and we will see who is the best in the country; heck let’s make it international, why not, the NFL wants to expand.

    It’s like I am watching ESPN analysts debate who should be #1 and #2 versus who is #1 and #2 in the BCS System. Same comparisons, WAC vs. SEC vs. PAC 12 vs. Big 12…

  • Sybil

    Doctor – tell me, is winning a League Championship in a league that has a MINUS TWO POINT FIVE rating worth writing home and bragging about? LOL!

  • Twenty-Something & One

    Nonsense – I’d hate someone who kicks my ass on the field every year for forever too. Then i’d wait til they lost to someone else (who is A LOT better than me) and pop off about how they aren’t any good. That’s your MO

  • Twenty-Something & One

    Nonsense – I’d hate someone who kicks my ass on the field every year for forever too. Then i’d wait til they lost to someone else (who is A LOT better than me) and pop off about how they aren’t any good. That’s your MO

  • Green pastures verifies”Not Since 1995′s Statement”…

    Not Since 1995

    By George you are right.

    According to this…

    http://articles.latimes.com/1995-12-10/sports/sp-12600_1_bishop-amat

  • Seven17Teen Years and Zero

    Amat just CAN’T WIN!

    Nuff said!

  • Monrovian #1

    It’ll be twenty something and 5 by the by beginning of the Serra League in 2012!

    Amat has not chance against the SGV teams this year. Your in for a world of hurt and embarrassment. And you know it!

  • DazBootee

    Amat fans are jealous of the Wildcats success!

    What a shame this so called Amat football program has become.

    They can’t compete, can’t win, and don’t have the horses to play. What a shame!

  • Greenie Cat Vs Hater with 20 screen names and counting….

    Just Say uncle after you read this…

    http://www.insidesocal.com/tribpreps/2011/09/breaking-news-b-17.html

    Amat 73…whoever you crazy buddy is…ask for this. All Amat Fans are not jerks, all monrovia fans may be jerks….We did eat every single comment When we lost to San Dimas in the finals….Every single comment. People forget about those days…so…if you know who this guy is, tell him to retire his keyboard…

  • ASSCLOWN HIGHLIGHTER

    AT all MHS Haters

    Im going Rhianna on all of you “SUCK MY COCKINESS”

  • Not Since I had Gnads in 1995

    Not since I had Gnads in 1995:
    - have I stopped being entranced by the Bishop Amat Program.
    - have I wanted to be a part of the Bishop Amat Family
    - have I been able to stop thinking about, All that is Lancer.
    - have I stopped sitting down to both pee and crap.
    - have I been able to use less than 50 different screen names on the Blogs.
    - have I been able to post anything that didn’t refer to the Bishop Amat Lancers.
    -have I been able to shake this AMAT OBSSESSION !!!!

    Oh well, Not in 2012 either!!!!!!!

  • SOS

    Strength of Schedule (Cal Preps)

    1. 44.48 Bishop Amat
    2. 40.10 St.Paul
    3. 33.80 Glendora
    4. 32.40 Chino Hills
    5. 30.92 St. Francis
    6. 30.77 South Hills
    7. 27.27 Charter Oak
    8. 26.60 Damien
    9. 26.11 Ayala
    10. 23.63 Claremont
    11. 17.42 West Covina
    12. 15.18 La Habra
    13. 13.18 La Mirada
    14. 6.94 Monrovia

  • Observantcat

    Maybe you should reverse the order and change the meaning of SOS to Strength of Success!

  • Greenie Cat Vs Hater with 20 screen names and counting….

    SOS should the OC register just re-run last years preview for this years game? You think the SGV tribune is the only blog that see’s who you really are? Nope!

    http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2011/09/07/fryer-on-football-servite-vs-bishop-amat/184393/

    BISHOP AMAT OF LA PUENTE (1-0) VS. NO. 1 SERVITE (1-0)
    Where, when: Cerritos College, Friday, 7:30 p.m.

    Outlook: These schools were league rivals for many years but have not played each other since 2005 when Servite beat Amat in a Serra League that was crucial to the Friars first league championship under then-new coach Troy Thomas. Amat last week beat Garfield of Los Angeles, 14-0, so it looks like the Lancers again have a good defense. Servite also won by shutout, 20-0, over Oceanside, a 2010 CIF-San Diego Section champion. Servites victory was a great deal more impressive. Amat, ranked No. 3 in the Pac-5 Division, has a good quarterback, Rio Ruiz, so a shutout might not happen again for Servite. Still, the Friars, the Pac-5s No. 1 team, are too talented and too deep for this weeks opponent.

    Winner: Servite

    Steve Fryer-OC Register…

  • check it out
  • Oh man

    Does Monrovia even have to practice for such a weak league? Or do they show up and play on Friday? it is Friday or do they play on thur?

  • SOS = Help The Lancers

    Strength of Schedule (ELA):
    1. Bishop Amat
    2. Garfield
    3. Venice
    4. Cathedral

    Nuff said!

    Go Big Blue!!!!!

  • Fall on line

    PUSSYcats are you guys hoping another team could beat AMAT when you can’t ? It’s ok that’s the way the rest of the Sgv feels. Go Blue

  • Same Old Amat Fan

    Same Old Amat Blowhard!

    IGNORANT, ARROGANT, and Always STUPID!

    These Lanceturds never disappoint! Except on the football field that is! LOL!

  • AMAT 73

    green cat,
    Have no idea who or whoever you are talking about is . I know a couple of AMAT bloggers and their names are regestered , after that it’s a crap shoot on their identity. By the way don’t forget to put up the thread on Ben Kane leaving AMAT for SH. Solid lineman and a good kid so don’t slight him by not posting the link to that thread. After all you want to be fair to all that have left , since you are posting all that information. Man your ability to find every little thing on AMAT is uncanny. Seems you have a bit of hero worship going on there . But you may be right in that is one guy with 20 to 30 names stringing all of you along .Bottom line is the games are set against the top SGV teams although for some reason I don’t see Monrovia listed on any of their schedules but maybe we can use your ABC’s of Algebra as CO does have game with SH as does Monrovia also. So by your logic if CO = A beats SH = B AND C = Monrovia beats B = SH , by your Algebraic logic A , CO = C , Monrovia , correct ????

  • Rankings! Did you say Rankings?

    Final Rankings for the 2011 Season will look the same in 2012:

    - CHARTER OAK: National – 299, State – 48, Division 6th out of 32!!!

    - BISHOP: National – 503 (Ouch!), State – 57, Division 19 out of 29 (Damn!). Can you say below average???

    - Monrovia: National – 1641 (Ouch mas!), State – 159, Division #1!!!

    2012 will be no different!

  • Rankings! Did you say Rankings?

    Final Rankings for the 2011 Season will look the same in 2012:

    - CHARTER OAK: National – 299, State – 48, Division 6th out of 32!!!

    - BISHOP: National – 503 (Ouch!), State – 57, Division 19 out of 29 (Damn!). Can you say below average???

    - Monrovia: National – 1641 (Ouch mas!), State – 159, Division #1!!!

    2012 will be no different!

  • Greenie Cat Vs Hater with 20 screen names and counting….

    Oh man

    Does Servite have to practice to get ready for the lancers?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNPohH-WD6Q

  • Green pastures aka “El Gato Monte”

    Rankings…

    Is it also going to be like this too?

    http://www.insidesocal.com/tribpreps/2011/11/by-fred-j-roble-2.html

  • Sgv baller

    Wow ,a lot of comments about the same thing . It would be nice to hear about former valley stars and how they are doing in college .recent players like ifo from chino hills ,Aubrey Coleman from walnut, Darien Johnson from amat and any other valley stars. Just curious to see former stars college stats or something . I have only seen Ifo from chino hills on tv .

  • Rankings???

    @Green Cow Turd

    Yeah…your Division 15 rings will be irrelevant outside of Duarte, Arcadia and Sierra Madre in 2012 also cus nobody will bother to look at whose ranked below 1,640!!! LMFAO!!!

    How important can you be when even Fred Robledo didn’t bother to put you at the top of his “Saturday Morning” headline? You were 6th on the list. Hell Covina and Muir got on there before you did!!! Don’t you get the hint? You are irrelevant. Nice D-15 team, but still irrelevant, dude!!! MaxPreps says so, LA Times says and the Tribune says so too!!! LMFAO!!!

  • Green pastures aka “El Gato Monte”

    AMAT 73…I LIKE HOW YOU JOIN MY QUEST TO TEACH MATH!!!…HOWEVER I AM STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A VARIABLE FOR THE DIVISIONAL DIFFERENCE…. SEE CHARTER OAK IS A INLAND SCHOOL, WHO SHOULD BE ABLE TO BEAT SOUTH HILLS. MONROVIA IS A MIDVALLEY TEAM WHO SHOULDN’T BE ABLE TO HANG WITH OR BEAT SOUTH HILLS. MONROVIA PLAYS SOUTH HILLS IN PRESEASON, WITH NOTHING ON THE LINE. CHARTER OAK PLAYS SOUTH HILLS WEEKS LATER, WITH LEAGUE AND PLAYOFF STANDINGS ON THE LINE. ALSO SOUTH HILLS IS BEAT UP BY THEN. IF YOU LOOK BACK AT WHEN CO PLAYED GLENDORA IN WEEK 0 AND MONROVIA PLAYED THEM THE NEXT WEEK, MONROVIA BEAT GLENDORA ANOTHER INLAND TEAM BY MORE THAN CO DID, THEREFORE MY THESIS MAY BE CORRECT..HOWEVER WHO CARES…I DON’T ENVY OR HATE AMAT. FOR WHAT REASON WOULD I DO THAT…

  • Greenie Cat Vs Hater with 20 screen names and counting….
  • Real talk

    I know what’s going on now good one ARAM you don’t fool me you have to be El gato, or green pastures. You are going against Fred in how Many hits you can get. Lol… You got the formula just post something about Amat and you’ll get sick amount of hits. love or hate Amat they get people going on here. J/k ARAM…… Really I’ve said this before you can look at my blog history. I honestly think it is bigger than the fishbowl. I have my sights on oc teams Amat and other Sgv teams are being challenged by oc I think it sad to see Sgv teams wanting a OC team to beat Amat.

  • SGV FOOTBALL

    I hate to say this but when the Monrovia bloggers come in here there is no substance in their text and I dont even want to glance at what they have to say.

    Aram, let’s move on with another thread. This one was done 100 hits ago…

    Ceee-Ohhh!

  • Not since I had Gnads in 1995

    Not since I had Gnads in 1995:
    Not since I had Gnads in 1995:
    - have I stopped being entranced by the Bishop Amat “Football” Program.
    - have I wanted to be a part of the Bishop Amat Family
    - have I “Not” been able to stop thinking about, All that is Lancer.
    - have I “Not” stopped sitting down to both pee and crap.
    - have I “Not” been able to use less than 50 different screen names on the Blogs.
    - have I “Not” been able to post anything that didn’t refer to the Bishop Amat Lancers.
    -have I been able to shake this AMAT OBSSESSION !!!!

    Oh well, Not in 2012 either!!!!!!!

  • One more reminder

    League Ratings (Cal Preps)

    Trinity League (PAC-5) 53.56

    Serra League (PAC-5) 48.64

    Baseline League (Inland) 36.11

    Southwestern League (Inland) 35.83

    Sierra League (Inland) 31.38

    Big VII (Inland) 24.21

    Hacienda League (Southeast) 7.20

    Valle Vista League (Mid-Valley) -.42

    Rio Hondo League (Mid-Valley) -2.5

  • Observantcat

    Another reminder. WHO CARES….. while you are taking a drive to see your local boys play at Citrus on Saturdays Us Monrovia fans can sit in front of the television and switch channels from the Big 10 to the Big 1 to the Pac 12 and see someone representing our town on either channel.

  • WTF

    Monrovia fans do a good job of keeping their team in the conversation…………and all you idiots keep falling for it.

  • Green Pastures…El Gato Verde
  • ObservantLancer

    Yeah…and everyone across the country will be asking Who the hell is Monrovia? Do they play 8 – man football? I’ve never heard of these guys.

    Oh well…they must be irrelevant!

  • Not Since 1995

    Amat…why do you suck?

    No really. Why don’t you reflect, smoke a bong, or visit your Monsignor and answer the truthful fact? Why…why…(Nancy Carrigan)…why?

    Not in 2012 Either…LMFAO!

  • Green Pastures the Invincible…

    Observantbiter…

    Monrovia High school/ Monrovia,CA was in every football publication in America last year …Here is USA today…Read this !

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/pac12/story/2012-02-01/ucla-jim-mora-recruiting-class/52927112/1

  • Red Leader

    Observantlancer. YOU’RE not asking that? You know damn well who Monrovia is and what kind of football they play. Monrovia is so RELEVANT to you that you had to comment. So now you look like an idiot for your last comment.

  • Not since I had Gnads in 1995

    Not since I had Gnads in 1995;
    - has anybody known who the hell Nancy Carrigan is???
    - have I been able to control my obsession with everything Bishop Amat.
    Uh, oh….by my reference I guess you can tell that I am a 45+ year old, Gnadless blogger with nothing to do but talk about all that is Amat….ALL THE TIME. I hate those damn Lancers!!!!!

  • Red Leader

    I find it odd that out of 180+ comments on this blog, 90% is about lowly Div. 11 Monrovia. Green and OCat, as always, do a great job keeping the Cats in the conversation. While everyone else get sucked in and instead of talking about their own team’s positive attributes, they all rather talk crap about Monrovia being in Div. 11 and it’s weak schedule. Yes, we’re Div. 11 and yes our Strength of Schedule is pretty pathetic. But the fact of the matter is, we play the teams on our schedule and we win the games that matter. Eventually, I would like to see Monrovia in the Southeast Div. 7. I personally believe that’s where we belong and nothing higher. In the Southeast I believe we can compete at a sustainable manner. Any division higher and Monrovia will be lost in mediocrity or worse. And please, this is just my personal opinion. There’s two things we all need to understand when it comes to high school football. The first is the ebb and flow of any given program, unless you’re De La Salle or Long Beach Poly(and even they have been having trouble in the first round the last couple of years). And second are the details(sq. miles, population, demographics) of the city itself(specially when dealing with public schools, these don’t apply to private schools). Monrovia only has a population of around 38,000(Upland-75,000, West Covina-100,000). There are three other public high schools that are within 5 miles of Monrovia High(the talent pool is spread too thin). And while most of the upper division teams are fielding 60-80 kids on their varsity roster, Monrovia averages in the low 40s year in year out. Add all these together and you will see why I’ll be happy in Div. 7. Good luck to all the teams this upcoming season.

    Oh, one last thing. To everyone that says “being a mediocre team in a higher division is better than being a champion in a lower division”. Seriously? Ok, whatever gets you to sleep at night.

  • The Pit

    WOW…SGV teams talk alot smack about Amat,yet no one has really shown that they can hang or even beat amat. The only team stepping up is Co and CH.Im jealous because SGV teams has more talent than anywhere else combine including OC. That wasn’t the case a few yrs back, u guys sucked balls. Anyway, I think you guys should have a Bowl at the end of the yr. The top 8 teams makes the playoffs and see who’s the best SGV team…trophy can be a fish in a bowl or something i don’t no. By the way if you do play amat on their field bring some gopher poision and spread it on the field before the game. They have gophers that are trained to attack you…not kidding I was bite 4 or 5 times on that damn field.

    @BraveDad

    We’re coming over today for the 7 on 7.
    I’ll be there. SP is ready.

  • Monrovia Bully

    Monrovia has about 10 D1 Players. Craft. Frazier, Bryant, Walsh, Heyworth and Miravet already have offers. Monrovia will Cakewalk to a third straight championship beating up on all of it’s “badly outmatched” Division 11 opponents. Monrovia is like USC playing against JC football teams. Lord, please have mercy of Monrovia’s Division 11 opponents.

  • JMO

    Aram,

    CO at Crespi tonight for 11 on 11.

  • Greenie Cat Vs Hater with 20 screen names and counting….

    That’s the problem with Amat Honks…always worrying about Dominance lower level teams.It doesn’t matter if any teams in the SGV can beat Bishop Amat. All that matters is this!!!

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/varsitytimesinsider/2011/10/fooball-alemany-defeats-bishop-amat-26-21.html

  • The Tip

    I remember all those years when Amat was a national powerhouse team. What happend after 1995? Hell, what happend the last 10 years? No Lancer Honk ever wants to address this issue. Why are programs like CHARTER OAK, CHINO HILLS AND MONROVIA improving every year? Even WesCo has gotten better since CO left the Southeast. Why is it that Amat keeps losing talent, losing 1st round playoffs, and can’t attract recruits? These are serious questions that need to be addressed.

    Whats Hagerty doing to fix it? Why do Lancer Honks avoid it?

  • Not Since 1995

    Not Since 1995 has Bishop Amat High School won a CIF Championship in football.

    That’s about the last time Carrigan won anything also…!

    That is the Truth…! Hahahahah…

  • ASSCLOWN HIGHLIGHTER

    My God you fool of fools with your league comparison and the strength of schedule pontifications, really your comparing your league and the fact that you all play in a higher rated league than Monrovia. That is ridiculous Ill give you that you play in a higher rated league but who gives a !@#$. Ill from now on call Bishop Amat the Ole Miss of their league. All of the league comparison reminds of when OK played USC in the Orange Bowl and because everyone thought the PAC 10 was an inferior conference (which it was) would get beat by big bad OK. Well Bush and Leinhert WHIPPED that ass 55-17. Yes is the PAC may have been an inferior conference however, ITS CHAMPION WASNT. The Rio Hondo and MID VALLEY may be have weaker teams but its CHAMPION can play with anyone in the SGV. So cancel the trash youre talking just keep taking it up the Dooky Shoot every Friday night. Looks like youre going to need plenty of Astro Glide this season. Rating the league Really Give Me a MuthaFN Break

  • not necessarily better

    TIP
    Is Charter Oak, West Covina, and Monrovia getting better – or are they facing worse teams than they used to in the playoffs?

  • The Pit

    I’m not defending amat but damnnnn….Man I feel sorry for amat that has to deal w/ morons. @ Assclown “Rio Hondo and MID VALLEY may be have weaker teams but its CHAMPION”… u just prove Amats point…if ur mentality is to be champion at a lower class,FINE but I think Amat has pride and wants to compete at the highest level…thats the difference between u and them. u also said..”That is ridiculous Ill give you that you play in a higher rated league but who gives a !@#$.”… its obvious Amat gives a shit.

    When u play at the higest level…you might too one day give a shit.

  • The Pit

    I’m not defending amat but damnnnn….Man I feel sorry for amat that has to deal w/ morons. @ Assclown “Rio Hondo and MID VALLEY may be have weaker teams but its CHAMPION”… u just prove Amats point…if ur mentality is to be champion at a lower class,FINE but I think Amat has pride and wants to compete at the highest level…thats the difference between u and them. u also said..”That is ridiculous Ill give you that you play in a higher rated league but who gives a !@#$.”… its obvious Amat gives a shit.

    When u play at the higest level…you might too one day give a shit.

  • QB Coach

    At the risk of changing the topic to something more than 4 people care about there was a great atrical on ESPN about 7 on 7.

    For those you who think 7 on 7 doesn’t matter you want to think twice.

    I am not suggesting nor is the atricale that it is the end all be all but it definetly has it place in help teams evolve and move forward.

    I think the notion of wining and losing scews our local landscape. Where ever school has something different they need to achieve when playing 7 on 7.

    For example a team with a new QB may be mor focused of timing of certain plays and less concerned with first downs need to win a tournment.

    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8178153/texas-prospects-flourish-thanks-7-7

  • Greenie Cat Vs Hater with 20 screen names and counting….
  • Anonymous

    The Pit

    have you even been reading the post that are posted by people, or better yet have you been watching H.S football? its not that other teams wouldnt mind playing on the highest level they got what they were dealt, whether it was d2 or d11 the fact is where they were placed they are winning and competing now the Amat family or team cant say the same. Its a difference when your actually competing which we all know Amat isnt. Amat was dealt the wrong hand and they just dont care to recognize it they still feel as if a pair of 2′s could beat a full house.

  • AMAT 73

    green cat,
    No need to yell there buddy. It’s all good . Question for you , why is it that even though you want to talk about Monrovia as a top team in the SGV but when it comes to playing any team above you, the excuses are ready in case of a loss. How can you write Monrovia should not be able to hang with SH ??? If like you profess , shouldn’t Monrovia be able to beat or hang with them if indeed you are a top team on the field . Yes we know about the many players who are being offered and that is great and if anyone denies that fact well the’re wrong as Monrovia’s staff is doing a great job of helping out with that. But why the doubt on your team . You go on to write that you play them in the preseason with nothing on the line. Well don’t you think and also by reading bloggers opinion of Monrovia that there is plenty on the line if you want to be in the conversation of a top team in the SGV.You can’t just use the well their in a higher division argument when you lose if you want to to considered one of the top teams,it doesn’t work that way. Do you think WC thinks that way when they play Loyola ??? Or for that matter any other team in the SGV . What is puzzling is in your eyes it’s ok for Monrovia to experiment during preseason and lose games against higher divisonal teams in the SGV because that is what should happen but in the same breath it’s not ok for other top teams to lose even though they can be experimenting as well with what line up they will use during the season ??? You guys may say what you want about AMAT honks or our program but we know we belong and feel we will win every game we play , can’t say that for you . Also I am not joining your quest to teach math , I am pointing out to you the laws of math in that a formula is the same for all A + B = C no matter what you plug in as the variables . Put any team in there and by your view if both A and B beat C or if A and B lose to C then A = B . You can’t change it because it works when you want to knock AMAT but you say it doesn’t work in the example I gave you . You need a differnt formula then the one you used , and if you would like I can steer you to it . Let me know .

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    I find it amusing the landmark 200th comment on this thread was posted by “Anonymous”.

  • Fish Bowl Card Games

    Anonymous
    The diffeerence in your card analogy is Amat is playing high stakes poker while Monrovia is playing “Go Fish”

  • ASSCLOWN AFTERMATH

    Well I dont give a !@#$ what amat thinks and I dont really give !@#$ about what you think. There is nothing going on in here its the same old tired Horse Dung. Ok most hate Monrovia they Suck, Amat Sucks. Co Sucks. Mtown players may get scholarships, they may play on saturday, Everyone knows Monrovia could be 100-0 you ASSCLOWNS would have nothing to say to affirm it. Or youd just repeat the same 200 tired ass post that have already been posted here. Time to close this one down Aram. Cannot wait for the season.

  • ‘Old Miss Lancers

    Hey Fish Bowl!

    Ummm…Explain to us specifically WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME the ‘OLE MISS LANCERS Played HIGH STAKES FOOTBALL.

    Was it 2011 when Servite beat you down like a red head alter boy?

    Was it when you LOST repeatedly in the 1st round of the playoffs?

    Was it 2011 when you prayed for a winning COIN FLIP to get into the playoffs?

    Was it in 2010 when lil ol Tesoro came to your house (after you swamped your field to slow me down) and put azz kicking on your Lancers?

    Was it in 2009 when you drove all the way down to Lakewood to get your azz handed to you by ‘The Woooooddd’?

    Seems to me tha the pattern here is that you’re getting your nose rubbed into the PAC 5 sh*t pile. Don’t you think?

    When exactly was the last time that the ‘Ole Miss Lancers played HIGH STAKES FOOTBALL?

  • Green pastures aka “El Gato Monte”

    Joe,

    We have already beat Arcadia, Paramount, South Hills, Glendora, all Higher division schools. If you place those schools against the Majority of Midvalley schools and South east schools, they never beat those guys, and they lose big. We have beat them already and lost close games in the ones we lost. In the last two years charter oak is 1-1 vs Glendora, So is Monrovia. Charter oak is 2-0 vs South Hills only beating SH 34-31 the year before and blew them out last season. Monrovia is 1-1, beating South Hills by 3 the same year Charter oak beat them by 3, and lost by 3 last season without Heyworth Starting(who comes in and almost comes back), and Ellis McCarthy, and it was week 4. Charter played them in week 6 instead of 4 with league implications. Which I why I always point out that these teams should be able to compete with people in their league in Division. Example, the Rio hondo is so weak, but I bet you did not see San Marino Nearly beat San Dimas in the playoffs at citrus. Monrovia really could have scored 70 points vs San Marino or anyone else in the Midvalley, come playoff time. In 2010 when Monrovia Won it’s first title, San Dimas lost to Rancho 21-10, and the very next week, Charter Oak lost to Rancho 40-28 that same year. Monrovia’s issue has never been talent or ability to win, it’s been consistency. The program is now winning regularly, and doing it in a dominating fashion verses the level of opponents CIF has deemed appropriate. They will be rewarded. That is all that a program can do. Others have not been winning verses the level of competition CIF has deemed appropriate. A win is a win and a lose is a lose. That’s why even though I talk smack about the Servite game, that could have been a bad night for the lancers and that’s why they lost so bad. However, Servite goes down to La Habra, and barely escapes. Anyone can have a bad night, However the separation between Championship programs are not as vast a you want to believe. Some schools just have a constant flow to top talent coming in, so they win often. If San dimas is lost by less points and gave up less points vs Rancho, then what can CO fans Say about a D11 team? They Actually did better vs a team 9 divisions above them. They only played eachother once. Don’t try to shun off your insecurities in your division by downing someone else success. The Margin is not as vast as you think. That’s my belief and sticking to it.

  • ASSCLOWN AFTERMATH

    @Ole MISS:

    Sorry I spoke to soon regarding shutting it down. Your last Post WAS MUTHAFN Hilarious.

  • Participation Please

    Amat hasn’t COMPETED in the PAC 5 in years. I mean it’s been so long that Lancers have already forgotten what competition really is!

    Amat doesn’t compete they just PARTICIPATE in the PAC 5.

    I mean really! Think about it SGV! What’s the difference between the Lancers and say…JSerra? Or how about LB Milikan? Dana Hills?

    PARTICIPANT!!! Say it Loud and Proud, Lancers!!!

    .

  • Compare this

    Greenie – you’d have to us another common opponent if you are bring La Habra into that equation
    La Habra. 28 La Mirada 19
    And a gracious
    Amat 49. La Mirada 13
    And of course this quote: “We just got overwhelmed,” said La Mirada coach Mike Moschetti, whose team opened with losses to St. Paul (24-7) on Sept. 2 and La Habra (28-19) last week. “Those two teams (St. Paul and La Habra) aren’t Bishop Amat. It’s
    not even close.”

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    Participation Please,

    There will be some Amat fans who will point to wins in recent years over Mater Dei, O-Lu and their league and call it competing.

    Then there will be others who look at the playoffs as the absolute definition of competing or mere participation.

    All depends which one you are.

    I would say that the big September wins are proof that when Amat is rolling they can surely hang with the PAC-5 elite. We just gotta get them rolling again.

  • BraveDad

    @ the Pit,

    Yes, I am aware of today’s 7 on 7 at our campus. I normally don’t do 7 on 7′s because to me they are nothing more than glorified practices. I will attend a pre-season scrimmage because at least during a scrimmage the bigs are out there, it’s 11 on 11, and the plastic is cracking. That said I won’t be attending today. If the traffic Gods align the stars for me today and arrive at campus in time to catch the end, I’ll do so. Otherwise you can let me know how it goes. (Do know that either way, win or lose, 7 on 7 results don’t mean much.)

  • AMAT 73

    green cat,
    Did you mean to address your last post to me AMAT 73 or Joe Amat . I guess it’s me as I have not seen a post by Joe on this thread. Calm down brother you’re getting confused . I am not downing any one’s division in any of my posts to you. Some bloggers are but I am not . I am asking something entirely different . Go back and read the post again and this time slow down and digest it before you start hammering the keyboard. My topic has to do with being considered a top team in the SGV of which if I am not mistaken you are professing Monrovia to be and the majority of SGV bloggers say you’re not simply because you lose some of the interplay between SGV teams or you don’t schedule teams of the likes of CO , CH , Upland , Rancho , I think you get the picture . Maybe with a win over St Francis and Ayala and SH will be a step in the right direction just as wins for AMAT over CO and CH will speak volumes as to our saying that we are still the team to beat in the SGV ( note SGV not PAC-5). Because you know damn well a loss to either one of those in the eyes of the SGV puts AMAT down where many of you write we are at this point in time in the SGV. It doesn’t matter when you play a team , it’s on the line any time you take the field and the excuses of , trying new players or fitting the pieces of the puzzle together just doesn’t cut it when you want to be considered one of the top teams in the SGV , that’s what passing leagues and scrimmages ( of which I am a big fan of ) are for , to figure those things out before the games begin . Please do not confuse my questions as not giving Monrovia their due in the fact of back to back titles or the top of the Mid Valley because they are and the titles are a great accomplishment for them but we are speaking of the top teams in the SGV solely.

  • Participation Please

    Aram

    You are being much too politically correct and polite to the Amat Honks.

    If you look at JSerra’s history or LB Milikan or Dana Hills over the last 10 years I’m sure we can fInd a victory or 2 from those teams against the PAC 5 competitive teams. But the fact remains that Amat on a consistent basis is merely a participant in that division. And that is not up for debate because it’s a fact. They lose more PAC 5 games than they win.

    If CO or Chino Hills did that we would say the same thing about them. Correct?

    I respect your opinion, but your being generous on this one.

  • update

    Who has a 7 on 7 today and at what time. Please update me

  • Green pastures aka “El Gato Monte”

    Well How do we verify who has attempted to schedule who and who has accepted or declined? Some games are a lot riskier than others? Every single person on here acts as if they know who has attempted what. If Servite schedules BA and losses. It does it hurt them as much as losing to La Habra. Plus if you notice the Pac 5 is dominated by private Catholic/Christian shcools who all recruit for bread and butter, bus kids around etc. Now if public schools could recruit, and because students are paying tuition, provide them with the best coaches money can buy, maybe would talk about even playing fields etc…I think that’s why CIF change the transfer rule, it creates a recruiting opportunity for public schools. And the private schools which recruit, also get the benefit of getting players suited in 30 days later.

  • Green pastures aka “El Gato Monte”

    I don’t think coaches are going public with who they accept and decline when scheduling future games. I know Amat(not Power house Amat) Recently has been real careful with their scheduling. You schedule Servite, which no one expects you win, so nothing is lost there. Then you schedule La Mirada, who is decent, and few other very winnable games. You never put yourselves in 5 challenging preseason games(according to your standards, not a D11 teams standards) then beat your chest. I dare you schedule Vista Murrieta, and Westlake…did they refuse to play you? Did Hags call them last year before Cathedral and La Mirada…you all really never look in the mirror. I don’t see maddox calling Rio Hondo prep, or Gladstone for preseason games. Aww mush~

  • Real talk

    Football season needs to start already so all the talking can be put to rest! Thats when u find out who can back it up Go!!!!!BISHOP AMAT

  • Back It Up

    Back it up??? Back it up is what Amat is going to do in 2012! Back it up all the way down to the Western Division that is!!! 2 – 8 season record Hahahahah….

    Go Big Blue!!!!

  • Schedules

    Strength of Schedule (Cal Preps)

    1. 44.48 Bishop Amat

    2. 40.10 St.Paul

    3. 33.80 Glendora

    4. 32.40 Chino Hills

    5. 30.92 St. Francis

    6. 30.77 South Hills

    7. 27.27 Charter Oak

    8. 26.60 Damien

    9. 26.11 Ayala

    10. 23.63 Claremont

    11. 17.42 West Covina

    12. 15.18 La Habra

    13. 13.18 La Mirada

    14. 6.94 Monrovia

  • AMAT 73

    The Pit,
    Thanks for the back up , it’s evident you get it . Now back to those gophers. I think it’s a heck of a lot better then that toxic pasture you guys call a field . At least the uniforms only have a few holes in them and aren’t glowing from the atomic waste left on your fieled from years past . Good luck this season and man that’s a killer schedule you got there . Look’s like Asante is trying to get you guys back to the PAC-5 . Good luck to you this season and can’t wait for our game as it will be great to see old rivals .

    green cat,
    Are those answers directed to my posts or are you just making more excuses in general to the blog . And the nothing to lose about Servite ( you’re wrong we expect to win ) is where you are wrong and shows how you think . Just losing to Ayala , St Francis , SH , will mean nothing to you since they are of higher divisions and that’s what’s supposed to happen according to you right . Is our schedule of Servite , CO , CH , SP, not challenging enough for you ??? . After all you and your buddies say those teams will whip us and are very much higher in caliber then AMAT . Come on now , putting RHP out there like they are a pushover . Schedule them and find out before you make an assinine statement ike that . And about VM or Westlake you know there’s a better chance you see AMAT scheduling them then on Monrovia’s .Open your eyes to the fact public schools can and do recruit and since the new transfer rule is in effect , what will be your next excuse. Remember you’re the one who said why pay when you can play for free at a top school , so I guess the demise of the privates is coming very soon . Just answer the question I ask you and quit dodging it . How do you consider your team amoung the top in the SGV when you can’t consistantly beat them or schedule any of the top teams on the field of play . Hell forget AMAT , how about WC,CO,CH or Damien . I would love to see one of those teans on your schedule.

  • Real talk

    To all the Amat haters. Like I said its noting new to hear Amat has no chance and Amat is going to have a bad season. Read the comments on How st.bonnie is going to beat down Amat. We all know what happend at that game. Lol it’s funny how the people saying that just disappears after Amat won. Like I said nothing NEW for AMAT…,, GO BLUE!!!
    http://www.insidesocal.com/tribpreps/2009/10/bishop-amats-da.html#comments

  • Joe Amat

    Thought I’d drop in after the touch football/beauty contest portion of the off-season and I see things are alive, kicking, and just as crazy as always with the same posts, just under different names.

    “The List” Aram and Fred put out every week will take on a diffent form this year because most of the usual suspects either play each other, or have a common opponent once removed that will make comparisons a bit easier. As I’ve said before every season and every game, Amat has a schedule of teams in which any team *could* beat them. If not – why schedule them. Let’s hope they can be a play or two better in the couple/few close games that made the difference between 6-4 and 8-2/9-1…which changes playoff matchups and who knows what happens then.

    Reading this thread from bottom to top, it appears some question what has gone on at Amat the last 10 years so, as some of you know, it may be time to dust off “THE LIST”. (Especially for some of the Monrovia bloggers who are a bit more, ummmm, “active” on the blog with their newfound rise to succe…more victories.)

    It appears that “next level” has become the rallying cry for those trying to find some sort of “edge”, and the consensus is NO ONE in the SGV is beating any quality teams in the playoffs recently. I mean, honestly, going back as far as Charter Oak’s back-to-back, does anyone have a better playoff win than Amat over Mater Dei?

    So here is what’s been happening the last 10 years (which someone below asked for) as it pertains to Amat guys at the next level – or “playing on Saturdays”.

    RYAN SMITH 2002 UTAH, FLORIDA, NFL
    DONNIE MCLUSKEY 2002 CAL
    WESLEY WALKER 2002 UCLA
    TYRONE CHAMOIS 2002 TCU
    CHRIS SEALS 2002 IDAHO STATE
    CESAR RODRIGUEZ 2003 UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS
    WILLIAM ROBINSON 2003 SAN DIEGO STATE, NFL
    LAMARR ROBINSON 2004 SACRAMENTO STATE
    MICHAEL COMBES 2005 UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA
    MATTHEW ROMINE 2005 UNIVERSITY OF REDLANDS
    MATTHEW RAMIREZ 2005 WHITTIER
    DANIEL ROBLES 2005 ST MARY’S COLLEGE
    JOSE RODRIGUEZ 2005 UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS
    JONATHAN SOTO 2005 SAN DIEGO STATE
    ANTHONY HUNTLEY 2006 ALABAMA STATE
    JONATHAN CORNELL 2006 UNIVERSITY OF MISSISSIPPI
    BRANDON BENNETT 2006 UCLA
    TONY VALENZUELA 2006 IONA COLLEGE
    VINCENT FEDERICO 2006 UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO
    CODY NEELY 2006 UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO
    CARLETON FLETCHER 2007 WEST POINT
    DOMINIC GAISE 2007 CENTRAL WASHINGTON
    DOMINIQUE AUSTIN 2008 ARIZONA
    MARCUS WAGNER 2008 MSAC
    NICK LENHART 2008 ARIZONA
    JARED ARNOLD 2009 CITRUS
    ISAIAH BOWENS 2009 UCLA
    GABRIEL FLORES 2009 CITRUS
    DESHAWN GAISIE 2009 CENTRAL WASHINGTON
    JR MAFFIE 2009 OREGON
    SHELDON PRICE 2009 UCLA
    JESSE PRIETO 2009 CITRUS
    BRENT SEALS 2009 STANFORD
    ANTHONY AVILA 2010 OCCIDENTAL COLLEGE
    DAVIS CAZARES 2010 NEW MEXICO STATE
    DARIEN JOHNSON 2010 NEW MEXICO STATE
    MATTHEW JOHNSON 2010 NEW MEXICO STATE
    JULIAN GENER 2010 MSAC
    CHRISTIAN ORDUNO 2010 MSAC
    DANIEL KANE 2010 UNIVERSITY OF REDLANDS
    ANTHONY ESTEVEZ 2011 UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE
    BROCK BOOTH 2011 UNIVERSITY OF LAVERNE
    ALEX RAGSDALE 2011 COLORADO STATE
    JOSH TIERNEY 2011 UNIVERSITY OF REDLANDS
    JALEN MOORE 2012 EASTERN WASHINGTON
    AJEE MONTES 2012 SMU
    * as mentioned below, 2012 guys have yet to set foot on a field, others will show up elsewhere. Check back in September.

    Now I’m sure my friends in Monrovia will be able to match this, although below it appears they were unwilling to list their large number of players *presently* playing on Saturdays and prefer to hang their hat on this years offers

  • City College

    @JoeAmat

    Did you really include City Colleges on your “LIST”?

    Are Freaken serious old man??? That is hilarious!!! When did MSAC and Citrus start handing out schollys for athletics? You are so freaken Arrogant that you don’t even realize how stupid that looks to the rest of the SGV! Hell even West Covina doesn’t brag about their JuCos!

    How many Championships in these 10 years, old man???

    What?

    Hello?

    Mac Fly?

    Bueller?………..Bueller?…………..Bueller?

  • So Basically

    So according to Joe Amat basically in the last 5 years 24 Amat Ballers have received full ride scholarships including 10 guys who are either at City Colleges or New Nexico State (Junior College!). Am I correct? And these 10 families paid Tuition at Amat for 4 years?

    Hell they could have gone to LPHS and gotten the same deal at MSAC CC!

    How many full ride scholarship offers does Monrovia for the 2012-13 school year?

    Is Joe Amat bragging? I hope not!

  • Real talk

    @basically you said 2012-2013 lmfao wow that is some kind of history right there. lol I know you are not trying to brag. We are still waiting for Monrovia list. Oh I forgot there is no list. SMH

  • Green pastures aka “El Gato Monte”

    Once again that’s bishop’s problem. How long are you going to keep posting the past accomplishments? Did I say Monrovia had More all time scholarships than Bishop? No. Did I say that last year Bishop had 2 and Monrovia had 2. Yes.

    Did I say that this year Monrovia has 5-6 and Bishop has 1. Yes.
    I can’t believe Citrus and mount sac came up. In that case everyone can put together a list.

    Here is your current list

    http://www.insidesocal.com/tribpreps/2012/06/bishop-amat-wrd.html

    How many do you have this years team who will receive scholarships in the next 2 years…Monrovia has several and How is Bishop going to have More scholarships than Monrovia in the future when stuff like this is happening!

    http://www.insidesocal.com/tribpreps/2011/09/breaking-news-b-17.html

  • Just being real

    To all the Amat haters. Like I said its noting new to hear Amat has no chance and Amat is going to have a bad season. Read the comments on How st.bonnie is going to beat down Amat. We all know what happend at that game. Lol it’s funny how the people saying that just disappears after Amat won. Like I said nothing NEW for AMAT…,, GO BLUE!!!
    http://www.insidesocal.com/tribpreps/2009/10/bishop-amats-da.html#comments
    July 19, 2012 3:26 PM

  • So Basically

    @Real Talk

    Looks like Greener Pastures has better reading comprehension than your dumb azz!!!

    @Joe Amat

    What ESPN channel or CBS or FOX or COMCAST or NBC channels does Redlands, Oxy, or La Verne play on??? Please do tell!!!

    The entire SGV is laughing at you Amat!!!

  • Real talk

    Monrovia fans are so funny. Lol just another school to add to the list that hates Amat. I love knowing that another school will be watching Amat this season. Amat still on top of Sgv and D11 -2.45 im not laughing really I’m not. :) Go Blue!!!!!! I’m out…

  • can’t have it both ways

    West Covina should be bragging about Albert Cid, who got to UCLA via JC. And I would hope Redlands, La Verne and Oxy are good enough to mention – since that’s the league the great Nick Bueno is playing in! We’ll see how New Mexico State does when the play Auburn – is that big time enough for you? And Eastern Washington bett be good enough – haven’t we been bragging about a Monrovia guy signing with UCDavis in the same league?

    I still haven’t seen guys Monrovia has playing on Saturdays now or recently – not guessing who might in the future. But we’re waiting. We know” Greennie is out to pasture”, or Asswhipe won’t, but maybe “notsoObservant cat”, or you’re “KiddingMe Bryant” will come through

  • League Ratings

    League Ratings (Cal Preps)

    Trinity League (PAC-5) 53.56

    Serra League (PAC-5) 48.64

    Baseline League (Inland) 36.11

    Southwestern League (Inland) 35.83

    Sierra League (Inland) 31.38

    Big VII (Inland) 24.21

    Hacienda League (Southeast) 7.20

    Valle Vista League (Mid-Valley) -.42

    Rio Hondo League (Mid-Valley) -2.5

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    I think it’s garbage to put down New Mexico St. If any kid gets a ride there, they should be very happy.

  • Really…We Are Laughing At The Lancers

    Amat is it really true???

    National Ranking in 2011 was 503 (Ouch!), State – 57, In the PAC 5 19 out of 29 teams (Damn!). That really sucks!!!!

    @BothWays Freak

    Is that the same Albert Cid that got kicked off the Bruins team in 2011 for starting a fight in a team practice last year??? Is that what you’re bragging about??? Very Nice!!!

    Redlands, La Verne and Oxy are fine academic institutions. No doubt about that. But you’re comparing your Amat past against the Monrovia scholarship offers in 2012???

    C’mon really??? That’s just embarrassing Amat!!!

    La Verne’s Record over the last
    2011 (4-5, 3-3 SCIAC)
    2010 (1-8, 1-5 SCIAC)
    2009 (0-9, 0-6 SCIAC)
    2008 (2-7, 2-4 SCIAC)
    2007 (1-8, 1-5 SCIAC)
    2006 (3-6, 3-3 SCIAC)
    2005 (5-4, 3-3 SCIAC)
    2004 (4-5, 3-3 SCIAC)
    2003 (1-8, 0-6 SCIAC)
    2002 (3-5, 1-4 SCIAC)
    2001 (1-8, 0-5 SCIAC)
    2000 (2-7, 2-3 SCIAC)

    Actually La Verne’s record kind of looks like Bishop Amat’s record over the last 10 years!!! LMFAO!!!

    The great Nick Bueno??? Who is that???

    New Mexico State will be on the same field as Auburn, but don’t get it twisted. The will NOT play against Auburn. This score will be as bad as the Servite v Amat game in 2011. Remember that one??? Oh, you left in the 3rd quarter. That’s right!!!

    Aram, think about it – Its NEW MEXICO STATE!!! Would you have gone to NMS for your journalism degree??? Exactly!!! LOL Aram!!! :-)

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    Honestly, I wouldn’t go anywhere for a journalism degree. That’s wasting money, in my opinion.

    But if I were a football player, I would definitely be proud to go there on a full ride. I know a lot of kids in this area who would feel that way. So what they don’t win many games. You get to play in big-name venues and maybe if things break right you can get into a minor bowl.

  • Bulldogs have bite

    @ Really….We are laughing,

    Albert Cid was not “kicked off” UCLA’s team last year for starting a fight in practice. He was suspended for half a season for being an antagonist in a brawl against Arizona. The incident at practice happened this spring, and he did not start the fight, he was just backing up a fellow O-lineman. I don’t think any more diciplinary action took place after that. He is still on UCLA’s roster.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/ucla/post/_/id/10280/near-brawl-disrupts-ucla-practice#more

    We at WC are still very proud of him for his accomplishments and how his hard work and dedication got him to where he is. Complaining about him fighting at a practice or in a game of football is like crying about MMA guys trying to hurt one another in a match. It’s a physical sport, fights will happen. I think it’s something UCLA needs, they have Cid and McCarthy now to show that team some SGV toughness!

  • Green Pastures AKA lovin it !

    It’s not rocket science, most of the programs winning multiple titles normally have a few next level kids. To win a cif title That would mean that a group of 50-80 kids outplay over a thousand other kids. To this multiple times in a 5 year span, means that school has some horses. If you accompany that with Size, speed and grades, why not offer kids from the championship programs. If you look closely, Servite, SM,Vista, Centennial, Oaks Christian, Westlake,La Habra,Long beach poly, Charter Oak, West Covina, Lompoc, Monrovia, Sierra canyon all have a few next level guys. Not to say that other schools don’t or can’t. I would even say if you are going to the Semis or better consistently, would mean you have a few next level kids. If BA or anyone else begins to gets a few next level guys playing together, they too can compete in the Pac 5. 5 or 6 next level guys will always help your situation. Especially if they are lineman. You possibly could win a title with 5 or 6 exceptional players in the right spots, along with other good players.

  • A Ride Is A Ride

    A full ride is a full ride. That’s $70k or more those parents don’t have to shell out. That’s loans thay don’t have to pay back. Some of you talk like that’s a bad thing.

    Aram’s is right, there’s only 1 more degree that is more worthless than a jouralism degree… Liberal Arts. May as well be under water basket weaving.

  • Scheduled Programming

    So Basically – the way I read the list, I see UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Arizona, New Mexico State, SMU. Pretty sure those schools will be on ESPN. We’ll let you know when.

    And basically we’ve come to the conclusion that Monrovia has no interrest in posting any list of players they have had recently who actually are playing in college now. Just so we’re clear.

  • just askin’

    and really interested for someone…anyone…to answer Joe Amat’s question.

    Who has a better playoff win in the last 5 years than Amat’s win over Mater Dei.

    Anybody?

    What?

    Hello?

    Mac Fly?

    Bueller?………..Bueller?…………..Bueller?

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    No. Nobody has a better playoff win than beating Mater Dei like Amat did in 2009.

    Next question: Who else plays in the PAC-5? Oh, maybe that’s why nobody has a better playoff win.

    This just drives home my point about HAVING TO JUDGE TEAMS BY THE COMPANY THEY KEEP IN THEIR OWN CORNERS OF THE WORLD.

    This is why comparing teams from different leagues and divisions is an inexact science.

  • greenie…

    A playoff win against any team > A playoff loss.

  • Real talk

    @Aram I am starting to see that you are not a Amat hater and your more of a call it how you see it guy. I can respect that…. I do agree with you that all is not what it use to be @Amat and I do feel we need some go get it personnel at Amat whether it be players or coaching. It is a different time and Amat like every other team must adjust to compete. It is a very important year for the Lancers. By the way what is the most comments a post has ever gotten?

  • No Really Its Very Basic

    Aram

    Walter Cronkite and ASU would strongly disagree with your assessment of a journalism degree!!! So would UCLA, USC and many other journalism programs across our country. I respectfully disagree with you.

  • Riding On Fumes

    @Ride Is Ride

    The graduation of a college football player is less than 30% in 4 years.

    The “overall” graduation rate at New Mexico State is less than 10% in 4 years. You do the math. Citrus CC has a higher graduation rate than that and that’s not saying much for a CC. Knowing that information, would you still go to NMS??? Really??? Why because Humbolt of Chico didn’t give you an offer???

    Rider, know your sh*t before you come on here and look like a Dumb Azz!!! Williams College, the entire Ivy League (including Harvard, Yale, Columbia, etc), and the Claremont Colleges are some of the Best Liberal Arts schools in the World!!! Their degrees are worthless??? Really??? You Dumb Sh*t!!!

    What fine academic institution gave you your GED? Wait is it south of the 10 Fwy and west of the Citrus Exit??? LOL!!!

  • Just Sayin’

    Just asking:

    Why don’t you tell us how many PAC 5 CIF rings the Lancers have in the past 10 years?

    BTW, who has the Worse PAC 5 playoff LOSS in the last 5 years than Amat’s LOSS to…..Ummmm…take your pick:

    - LAKEWOOD

    - TESORO

    - SANTA MARGARITA

    Anybody?

    What?

    Hello?

    Mac Fly?

    Bueller?………..Bueller?…………..Bueller?

    WE ALL KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT FREQUENTLY REPEATED FAILURE!!!

    Just Sayin’

  • What’s The Truth Joe?

    My old friends at Bishop Amat tell me that several of Joe Amat’s alleged football scholars actually did not receive full rides to the alleged schools that Joe Amat is proporting. I don’t want to call anyone out by name specifically but I will say there are 2 in 2002, 2 more from 2005, 1 in 2006, and 1 2011.

    In addition to the long list of JuCos, looks like Joe Amat is once again twisting the facts to try to make the Lancers appear to be better than who they really are.

    Monrovia’s offers in 2012 are out there for everyone to see. The Wildcats don’t need to lie about their present success.

    Why lie about your past Joe Amat? You think people like me are not going to check the facts? Makes you look like a fool.

    We really are laughing at you…Amat!!!

  • still waiting

    Looks to me like Joe’s quote was:
    “So here is what’s been happening the last 10 years (which someone below asked for) as it pertains to Amat guys at the next level – or “playing on Saturdays”.
    Doesn’t look like anything was said about “full rides”. Nothing twisted there.
    I’m tired of hearing what might happen in 2012 and still waiting for the list of Monrovia players who actually HAVE played on Saturdays lately

  • Long List?

    “long list of JuCo”?
    i see a list of 40-50 names over 10 years and maybe 6 JC guys. Will someone else match that for us since Bishop Mat has been so failing in the last decade

  • GoAmat

    Really? Come on now Amat people! Why would you waste your time going back and forth on here? You know Amat will NEVER do anything good in these ignorant peoples eyes! Who cares what the hates say? If we don’t respond to any neg comments they would have nothing to comment on! So us as true Amat fans\parents should focus on positive things. We know who we are and what we produce! In case you don’t know what we produce, just take a walk thru the Hall Of Fame at Amat! Our boy Rio just graduated and earned 1.8 million. So from this point on Amat dont even respond or comment to any article on here!!!. GO AMAT!!!

  • Did We Offend You?

    Aaahhhh….did we offend you, Amat Lancers??? Why’r you crying (George Lopez style!)?

    Little Joey Lancer is picking up his private school ball and is going home???

    Lancers…YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

    Tell the Truth and answer the Questions. Don’t lie to the SGV!!!

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    @Real Talk,

    No, I’m not an Amat hater. I root for Amat just as much as I root for any other team in the area. If Amat plays a local, I’m happy for the winner and sad for the loser, just how I am with any other local vs. local matchup.

    I’ve always said it’s a great thing for the area when Amat is rolling. And I would love nothing more than to cover such a time.

    I just think some people need a reset when it comes to present-day Amat. And I don’t like when SOME Amat fans try to deflect their shortcomings by putting down the successes of other local teams.

    I also hope for a time when the admin makes it more doable for Hagerty and his staff to have a PAC-5 winner.

    The Amat fans are some of my favorite in the area. They love their team, they show up in droves and they have the biggest numbers. It’s all great stuff. I just want to see have them the best possible team and have the school make that possible. The Amat athletes in all sports are great kids, too. Always a well-spoken pleasure to work with.

  • Green pastures aka “El Gato Monte”

    Still Waiting…

    How about you sing some Van Halen…”Right Now”. My guess is after this season, the AD over there is going to Clean House. Now here is a twist…Imagine what BA would be like if they hired coach Assante, who is now at St Paul? He can recruit. They will soon find a coach of who brings that to the table. He was there for five minutes and convinced Scoby to go there. BA fans acted like they did not want him LMAO. You get him, and move Blue to the other WR, Now you are talking. Assate would have brought 4-5 big lineman, and Simko possibly comes over and so on. I don’t know Hags, but I do know no BA player was in the all star game, and that’s terrible. Which means he probably doesn’t recruit well. He also had a key lineman transfer out to CO. I do doubt that BA can get back to where they were, however some is going to have to find some players, and maybe a coach who can get and keep them…Then you will # of current scholarships go up. You got have the horses coming in freshman. Trey Sidney needs some people to play with…

  • The only real truth on this thread is the following

    It’s really sad to say, but the only reason that this thread has so many hits is because it has turned into an Amat bashing thread. What’s comical is that 3/4 of the hits are from Amat’s #1 Fan or Not since or real talk I&II or any host of one liner, drive by poster screen names that he happens to use and a couple (or maybe just one) really dedicated monrovia guys. Must be football season.

  • Greenie Cat Vs Hater with 20 screen names and counting….

    You are so Right SGV’s top program digressing is big news around these parts. Without Amat, there were be nothing to discuss. What I though Amat Fans love being in the limelight…Well I guess only when they are winning. I bet if every post was about Amat being great, and all. It would be ok. I would be flattered if the whole SGV was talking about Monrovia….Dam! I think we need a new thread to chew on.

  • AZTEC PRIDE

    Right on JOE AMAT, nothing wrong with placing Citrus College, (JUNIOR COLLEGE FOOTBALL) on your list of players playing COLLEGE BALL! The players you listed playing for Citrus, all have gone onto the next level with the exception of Prieto that I know of. Flores has recently been offered a scholarship to Rockford Univ. And Jared Arnold also went somewhere back east. Ive watch quiet a few players from the SGV these last three years at Citrus, like Cid, Jesse Illaui, Ricky Johnson from West Covina ,all outstanding players who have benefited from Citrus! Citrus has had quiet a few players offered scholarships anywhere from D1 to NAIA schools this last season. Citrus College should have been in a State Bowl this last season and unofficially were the Conference Champs. One player spoiled there entire season and every game he played in, the games were forfeited and the season ended on the downside over one PLAYER!

    Got to mention this about several players who played for Citrus College, this past season who came from the Montview League and played outstanding FOOTBALL side by side with players from AMAT, CO, West Covina and plenty of other big high schools .The seven leading top tacklers for Citrus, and three of them were from the Montview League. From AZUSA, Jose Nunez, was #1 leading tackler and was his first year playing, was nominated 2nd team all CONFERENCE. Also from AZUSA , 4th leading tackler was Steven Arceo, second year playing for Citrus and nominated 2nd team all conference and Jesus Vargas, from La Puente High, played offense and defense, was the 7th best tackler and was brought in on 4th and goal, was nicknamed the train and what a sight to see break into the end zone. Was nominated 1st teaming all Conference and he will be definitely be going to the next LEVEL! One more player who came out from AZUSA HIGH, Rauley, Zaragoza who played for Citrus, went on to play for Delaware Blue hens and will have one more season playing up there.

    So it goes to show you JOE, (JUNIOR COLLEGE), isnt anything to be LAUGHED AT!

    AZTEC PRIDE~MONTVIEW LEAGUE SUPPORTER~

  • BraveDad

    @ the Pit,

    So how did things turn out yesterday? When I left we were up 3 – 2. (But again… whatever.) How’d you like those long balls baby? And the QBs are both youngsters; one’s going to be a Jr the other a Soph.

    Based on what I saw SP has improved in the area of skills players. Good luck to you guys. This waiting for Aug 24th thing is killing me!

  • AZTEC PRIDE

    OH… To ARAM, take out DUARTE AT #25 and put the AZUSA AZTECS back up their!!! WHAT THE HELL!!! Quit hating on the AZTECS and they keep getting better and better every year!

    Get’em Ready Coach Scherf!

  • Greenie Dancing With the Stars

    It is becoming SO apparent that green pastures wants NO part of talking about anything that HAS – only about what MIGHT happen. Just like we MIGHT beat South Hills, but they are in a higher division so if we lose it’s because it’s preseason and Charter Pak plays them in league, and we might have someone injured ,and St Francis is a private school so they can recruit, so we should lose, but we wont’t and we could go 15-0 and end in a State Bowl Game, even with our lousy Strength of Schedule, because if we play Sierra Canyon their better and will help our numbers, but we should be in the Southeast even though we lost to Arcadia and they got beat by West Covina, but we’d win that one too and I iow we we 7-3 – but we have some guys who have offers for next year – and we know those ALWAYS work out – right?

  • Dancing Green Lancer

    Insert the word “Amat” into your last verbal diarrhea and it’s the same thing Lancer fans have been saying for the last 17 years!!!

    Never Amat’s fault. It’s always someone else! Just go ahead ask Coach What’s Her (Volleyball) name!!!

  • Greenie Cat Vs Hater with 20 screen names and counting….

    I did talk about what has happened…Has all of this happened?

    I did say Mtwon has already beaten South hills, Glendora, Arcadia, Paramount, all higher divisions schools.

    I did say Monrovia has won Back to Back CIF D11 tittles

    I did say that Monrovia guys have got offers, Aram is posting those offers everyday.

    I did say that BA lost league, and playoff games

    I did say that BA has 1 offer so far.

    I did say BA has a rich history…I played in 90′s when Amat Was King.

    But really none of that matters. I will talk about what is happening now, and the future. What else is there to talk about? I think progressive programs are concerned with the future.

    Why not hope that The Green Cats go to state…I think that would be great don’t you? I hope BA wins the Pac, then can talk smack to people outside the Fishbowl. Really all this Amat, CO, and Monrovia bashing is just “in-house cleaning” so we I can present a SGV “United Front” to rest of the Southern Section hahah.

  • Observantcat
  • A Ride is a ride

    @ Inhaling Fumes

    Most Useless Degree; (no offense Aram),
    1) Journalism;
    Median starting salary: $35,800
    Median mid-career salary: $66,600
    Change in number of jobs, 2008-2018: -4,400
    Percentage Change in number of jobs, 2008-2018: -6.32
    Undergraduate field of study: Communications
    Number of students awarded degrees 2008-2009: 78,009

    Get that degree from Haaaaaavuuuuud, Columbia, or NMS, not going make that much difference.

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    You think I’d be offended by that? No way. I tell people all the time not waste their money on a journalism degree. Pick a different field. There are no journalism jobs. If you think you can be the next, uh, I don’t even know who I’d consider to be a good sports journalist, but yeah if you think you can be them and are willing to gamble, then by all means.

    If not, do what Fred, Miguel and I did, start at local paper answering phones, building scoreboard pages and doing the worst writing assignments (JUCO baseball) to your best ability. Then you’ll gradually move up and be just fine.

    When I first started at the Trib, I answered phones, built the horse racing page, took stats from coaches on Mondays, built the scoreboard page. And when I got the fourth-best game on a Friday night in the Star-News area, I was pumped like you couldn’t believe.

  • Hilarious

    So Green Guy, who wants us to believe the ‘Cats to be a top dog, is hanging his hat on wins over South hills (3-7), Glendora (3-7), Paramount (5-5) and one and done Arcadia along with a couple titles in the Rio Hondo League and their -2.5 rating with back to back championships in the 274th ranked MidValley League. But Green Guy says that is all ok because of the high number of players sent to the next level – even though we now find out it’s not ACTUALLY guys that have realy made it to the next level, but turns out he’s investing in futures with those he hopes might work out in 2013. Then Observantcat comes to the rescue and says, “well, we may not have that many – but we do have ONE that might be really good”
    This is getting funnier by the post. keep digging guy! LMFAO

  • SOS

    Strength of Schedule (Cal Preps)

    1. 44.48 Bishop Amat

    2. 40.10 St.Paul

    3. 33.80 Glendora

    4. 32.40 Chino Hills

    5. 30.92 St. Francis

    6. 30.77 South Hills

    7. 27.27 Charter Oak

    8. 26.60 Damien

    9. 26.11 Ayala

    10. 23.63 Claremont

    11. 17.42 West Covina

    12. 15.18 La Habra

    13. 13.18 La Mirada

    14. 6.94 Monrovia

  • green pastures…

    Hilarious…get off my genitals.

    Thanks,

  • reality

    That, my friends, is the sound of reality setting ini

  • Riding On Fumes

    Aram:

    You said: “If you think you can be the next, uh, I don’t even know who I’d consider to be a good sports journalist”

    Really??? You couldn’t come up with -
    - Peter King
    - Buster Olney
    or even the our own legendary “Pulitzer Prize” Winner “…Jim Murray”?

    By the way, Jim Murray is an Alum of Trinity College. One of the best Liberal Arts schools in the U.S.

    Its a shame that you haven’t even taken the time to study our profession’s history and our legends. Yet, you strongly impart on our young people your sage advise by saying “I tell people all the time not waste their money on a journalism degree. Pick a different field.”

    Perhaps, like Amat Fans, you are afraid of the competition???

  • Riding On Fumes

    Aram:

    You said: “If you think you can be the next, uh, I don’t even know who I’d consider to be a good sports journalist”

    Really??? You couldn’t come up with -
    - Peter King
    - Buster Olney
    or even the our own legendary “Pulitzer Prize” Winner “…Jim Murray”?

    By the way, Jim Murray is an Alum of Trinity College. One of the best Liberal Arts schools in the U.S.

    Its a shame that you haven’t even taken the time to study our profession’s history and our legends. Yet, you strongly impart on our young people your sage advise by saying “I tell people all the time not waste their money on a journalism degree. Pick a different field.”

    Perhaps, like Amat Fans, you are afraid of the competition???

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    What investigative journalistic stories have Peter King or Buster Olney broken recently? They’re both glorified bloggers, writing and tweeting about trade rumors and injuries.

    King’s Monday Morning QB is a pure page-view grab. He even said so in an HBO interview a year or so ago.

    You don’t even know what you’re talking about, as usual. Journalists would be guys like Mark Fainaru-Wada and Lance Williams. Guys who can spends months, if not years digging and investigating things like the steroids story. You know many of them? King and Olney are from that and aren’t even trying to be that.

    Jim Murray? He was great. Newspaper era all the way. Completely different era now. That kinda writing would appeal to precious few now.

    Hate to break it to you, but most people don’t sit around the breakfast tabke for 2 hours reading the mornin paper anymore. They check their iphones on the way out the door and have streamlined how they want their news via things like Twitter.

    Fact is that sports journalism and sports writing is DEAD. That’s not what most people want anymore. People want Deadspin and Huffington Post and TMZ and so on. The numbers prove it. So many of you bash TMZ, but do you have any idea how many major stories they’ve broken in recent years with great accuracy? Think Michael Jackson’s death.

    People want blogs and quick-hitting info with an opportunity to interact, i.e comment and share their opinion. You either give them that or kiss your chance at making money via page views goodbye. Use our blogs as your proof.

    Five years ago, major websites like ESPN and FOX and Yahoo! were hiring up every good newspaper columnist/beat writer they could. And building up monster-sized staffs of desk guys to handle all of that copy and video. Guess what! It failed! They’re LOSING money. LAYOFFS GALORE over the past year.

    Most of the guys I worked with at FOX just got laid off. A big chunk of the writers I worked with at FOX also sent packing.

    People want their news fast. People want their opinion blunt and quickly. Nobody wants to spend 20 minutes reading anything. They want the cliff notes. (Hey, that’s perfect for things like blogs, no?) And then they’re off to the rest of their breakneck day. (Think about why Twitter has exploded for media types … 140 characters or less).

    We can all be nostalgic and old school and remember what newspapers once were and how guys like Murray and the rest used to entertain us. But times have changed.

    So yeah, if you want to take out student loans in order to get a journalism degree, be my guest. But unless you’re graduating from Missouri or Northwestern or an Ivy League school and have some great connections in New York, you’re looking at 30k a year IF you can find a job. Sounds enticing, doesn’t it?

  • just askin’

    Been Sniffing Fumes? – who’s afraid of competition? The school that fights to stay at the top level, or the school that appeals a move up and whines about it when they do? The school with the highest Strength of Schedule in the area?? Or the school that has played and won non-league games against Orange Lutheran, St Bonaventure, Alemany, Chaminade, St Francis, St Paul, Dominguez, Venice, La Mirada, Muir, Diamond Ranch, Damien, and West Covina in the last 4 seasons?

  • Once a Swordsman…

    BraveDad -
    What I saw the other day was that SP had comparable skill players with your Braves. Where SP falls short is depth and, what I hear, size in both lines. What SP will never fall short of is effort and toughness. Like you I can’t wait ’til the start of the season.

  • Just Losing’

    Who keeps losing every year in the 1st round of the playoffs? AMAT

    Who gets into the playoffs by a “coin-flip”? AMAT

    Who keeps getting embarrassed by OC teams? AMAT

    What private school in the SGV sends more Ballers to City Colleges than anybody else? AMAT

    It’s no wonder that Aram has picked you guys way down the list.

    Hahahah! SAY IT LOUD AND PROUD…AMAT!!!

  • Just Losing

    Amat Lancer

    Have you asked yourself why does Aram have St Paul, West Covina and MONROVIA ahead you Lancers??? Division 7 and Division 11 teams???

    What does Aram know about Amat that you don’t know?

    Must be a very big and hard pill to swallow Lancer!!!

  • League Ratings

    League Ratings (Cal Preps)

    Trinity League (PAC-5) 53.56

    Serra League (PAC-5) 48.64

    Baseline League (Inland) 36.11

    Southwestern League (Inland) 35.83

    Sierra League (Inland) 31.38

    Big VII (Inland) 24.21

    Hacienda League (Southeast) 7.20

    Valle Vista League (Mid-Valley) -.42

    Rio Hondo League (Mid-Valley) -2.5

  • STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE

    Strength of Schedule (Cal Preps)

    1. 44.48 Bishop Amat

    2. 40.10 St.Paul

    3. 33.80 Glendora

    4. 32.40 Chino Hills

    5. 30.92 St. Francis

    6. 30.77 South Hills

    7. 27.27 Charter Oak

    8. 26.60 Damien

    9. 26.11 Ayala

    10. 23.63 Claremont

    11. 17.42 West Covina

    12. 15.18 La Habra

    13. 13.18 La Mirada

    14. 6.94 Monrovia

  • ‘Nuff Said

    Losing – Aram is the same guy that said the Big 10 is the best conference in the country. Thats all I have to say about that

  • Bulldogs have bite

    Hey Aram,

    Are you going to do practice ambush videos this year? I thought they were pretty awesome!

  • Gabriel Baumgaertner Fan ( Damien ’07 Cal ’11), yes it’s me with yet another AKA.

    Aram I know we’ve had our differences but this time I think most bloggers, as usual, have a hard time slapping the hand that feeds them. Your limited view of college, and actual experience there in, exposes you to make comments like the ones you’ve made with out exposing your limitations.

    My son, the Trojan, has a friend who really wanted to become the next Bob Costas and thought USC is where that would happen. Incredibly he didn’t get accepted there but did at Cal, where he followed his dream and became part of The Daily Californian. Since graduated he writes for a living after earning his Journalism Degree from Berkeley…. sound familiar?

    Any way here’s a piece Gabriel wrote that I thought I’d share with the blog that speaks to your dismissal of a Journalism degree.

    I hope you post this, especially for the young minds reading your “take”. “College” is more than a “degree”…thought you knew.

    http://www.dailycal.org/2011/12/01/its-all-over-now-baby-blue/

    Hey, girl. I got your note. Its a good thing you kept it short, For Rent is about as terse as it gets, otherwise Id probably try again to talk you into keeping me around for a little while longer.

    I could barely see the sign loosely taped outside my courtyard through the thick morning fog. Pretty fitting, right? You, Berkeley, you were a part of me for four and a half years and suddenly I couldnt see my life even 10 feet in front of me. Life still looks rather uncertain without you even though it was just a two weeks notice.

    I understand why youve tired of me. You have bigger issues to confront now. Its time you cut me loose since I already overstayed my welcome. And while I want to cling to your vibrant beauty for a few moments more, I understand its about that time. But at least let me thank you first.

    I remain unsure why you took me on in the first place. I spent most of my life on the B-Team. But an A-list lady like you can reveal the world to a B-team chap like me.

    Thankfully my parents advised me to take my chance with you. Cant think of a piece of bad advice they have ever given me. Now theyre going to have to help steer me right again because I feel bound to crash without you. What I would do without them?

    But what will I be without you?

    You know what? Lets not focus on the past for once. Im all too guilty of nostalgia abuse. Having been with you for this long has prepared me for a future without you even if this economy will try to tell me otherwise.

    You introduced me not merely to incredible minds but to incredible people who forged my growing identity. Youre real world, you know that? From you I gleaned not solely the astounding instruction from elite academics, but the modes of survival in this immense yet staggeringly competitive melting pot.

    Youve got plenty of knowledge, girl. I know that. But its your urban swagger that I dig even more. I never got that ivory tower vibe from you. You consistently proceeded without pretention. I may have been immersed in this wondrous dreamscape for nine whole semesters, but you consistently reminded me that when you finally casted me out, I would be ready to fight in that rapid, globalizing vortex of society.

    I may have spent most of my time toiling around the sixth floor of Eshleman Hall writing columns and editing features, but every day was a lesson.

    You not only educated me about the grind and the hustle in class, but you acutely prepared me for the stark realities that pervade our everyday existence.

    I know. Trying to become a sportswriter is hardly an ideal decision these days. But we both knew that sports are all that I have ever known. So you showed me to The Daily Californian, a place where real student journalism lives and is produced by some of the most trying, devoted types Ill ever be lucky enough to meet.

    These kids, I mean, where else would I meet them? Chris and Matt gave me the opportunity to write. I owe them a favor I couldnt possibly repay.

    And Jack and Ed? What incredible beat partners. Ill never know how they dealt with all my chatter especially on roadtrips. And then the youth: Jonathan, Christina, Javier, Mihir, David and Luca. They are the future, boy. Theyll be locking down whatever careers they choose while I continue to play with words.

    And damn, that girl Katie kept me on the straight. Cant imagine what the experience would have been without her. That girl is a game-changer.

    I love my former colleagues who will soon become the competition. Its an honor to even share the playing field with the emerging pros.

    So its time to finally take the snap. The defense is angling up, and theyre ready to blitz the house.

    But Im not calling an audible yet, girl. You taught me how to read this defense. I just hope I studied my game film properly. You caught me sleeping through plenty of film sessions.

    Because in this time I learned to craft my prose with care, interview with insight and proceed with patience. Somehow Ive got to show the world that there is still some magic left in sports. Ive just got to stay self-effacing and remember the opportunities you offered.

    Lets just hope Im ready to make a play when the linebackers try to throw me for a loss.

    Thats all, Berkeley. Thanks for kicking it with me. Youll forever be a reminder of that simpler period in my life. What marvelous time I shared in an idyllic setting with vivacious folks that stimulated my every moment. So as I watch the sun settle below your bordering bay just one more time, just remember that you bred me to believe. I love you, girl.

    Go Bears.

  • http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball Aram

    Bulldogs Have Bite,

    That’s the plan. Glad you liked. Hoping to not be received so nicely this year.

    FC, Damien Dad, Stanford Dad (yeah right), and whatever you are now,

    I knew your idiotic response was forthcoming. And of course it was confirmed when
    I looked at this guy’s LinkedIn and Twitter accounts. Both say he’s an intern at SI.com

    But you just said “he writes for a living.”

    They must pay interns monster money over at SI. I wish the kid luck, but did you really need to post his “smart assy, dime-a-dozen ‘Look out world! Here I come’” parting shot to Cal? They all write junk like that. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

    About “sounds familiar” — ask her how that job search in the journalism world worked out. And that was a VERY EXPENSIVE masters from Cal. She’s now teaching.

    Once again, you’re way off base and fail to deal in reality. But what else should anyone expect from a guy who can’t use his real name?

    College and its exceedingly high costs is a big risk in the current job environment. Bachelor’s degrees are a dime a dozen now. So what do you do? Spend more money on a masters? That’s up to each individual, I guess.

    But when it comes to journalism, the best road is the one I stated — latch on at a newspaper/website and learn the ropes from the ground up.

    I got hired at FOX alongside Ivy Leaguers and Mizzou grads. Never hurt me I didn’t have a degree on my resume. But then again, when it’s as easy giving to the managing editor at FOX a link to my blog and saying “see what I can do with SGV prep sports? Imagine what will happen with MLB or NFL”. Worked like a charm Seems to me that if you have talent, people will see it. I gambled that’s how it would play out for me and it did. Not having a degree has never held me back once and I now do something I love. If I wanted to be at FOX or anywhere else, I would be. But I’m a weirdo and I like what I do at the Trib.

    If you want the safer, college loans route, then be my guest. In the meantime, time for you to take those meds and join the rest of us in this decade where the job market sucks and college degrees mean less and less, unless you’re talking about debt.

  • MVL Insider

    @ Amat Nation and Aram

    You have Amat ranked too high. This team does not have the talent to compete with any of the top programs. MidValley Sierra Canyon would beat them by 10+. Amat’s QB is below average, and after watching Oceanside treat Amat like a scout team, I don’t see how Haggerty can continue to live off the Mater Dei win (Verti’s kids) and being boat raced by every other quality team. The Myopia that is Amat fan is ridiculous! The most off putting part is that Amat still carries themselves with an arrogance that this group of kids and staff have not earned. To watch them struggle with my Lions (by struggle I mean they got “punked”) and to have them called out for the frauds they are was refreshing. Amat needs a new direction because they look like SC circa J. Rob/Paul Hackett! Remember that: “Ooh we almost beat Florida St.!” Yeah, makes sense, they have a lot in common. We see you #1 (DM), better player than coach

  • BA Blues

    Bishop Amat’s future QB?

    This is sophomore Anthony Camargo. By the look of this freshman video, this kid can throw AND run!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZAL1cZNprw

    Does anyone have any more info on this kid???

  • green pastures…

    6’2…that freshman QB looks real legit. Now that’s something BA can build on.

  • SGV FOOTBALL

    Aram,

    When was the last time a thread hit over 300 Fred and your blog???

  • Bartender

    Amat loses ONE pre-season game this year, Servite. They scrape and claw wins from the others. Ball control offense. That’s the name of the Hagerty era Amat football team. If we control the ball and our defense can make some stops, we don’t give you time to work up the score. If we can’t score and our defense can’t stop anyone, well, it would be a long season for anytime with those problems. All Koa needs to do is move the ball down feild. Chew up the clock and end the possession with points. Defense gets a stop and we do it again. They cannot score if they don’t have the ball. Now that should get us to 300 hits!!!!

  • Sorry Bartender, but

    if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle! Not hating on Amat at all. I don’t really care one way or the other, but I love HS football and the major spots in general and I think that Amat being good to dominant is good for the SGV and HS sports, but all the “IFs” you put out there is just a bit much man.

    Hell, if little sisters of the poor had a QB like Mike Smith of Los Altos circa 1983, a running back like Bienemy, receivers like (fill in the blank) two defensive linemen like COdy and Harwell etc….., they would be CDS up north and any team in the country.

    You get my point I am sure. Just about any of the even modestly decent team would be gangbusters if they filled in the blank with all the ifs.

    I for one can’t wait to see who is right, who was wrong and who doesn’t know their head from their A$$ once the season is under way and we can get a feel for what teams are contenders and which are pretenders.

    Are you ready for some football?

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