Time to worry? Pomona, yes Pomona, smokes Damien at Rubidoux Tournament …

I got this info second-hand, but I believe it to be reliable. Pomona smoked Damien in the Rubidoux Tournament in a game that was called to put Sparty out of its misery because tempers flared and Damien’s coaches thought it was best to concede.

This holds importance because we should all be keeping an eye on Damien this summer because of all the transition taking place at Sparty. Getting worked by Pomona is not a good sign when you’re a season away from heading to the Pac-5. No bueno.

  • Valley Athletics

    Last year Damien was doing good At 7 on 7 games . Any info on who Qb is ?

    • no-step

      And they had 3 wins, right? One was a forfeit, I think.

      • Valley Athletics

        Don’t know what there records where . Just remember there being some post on the team having good showings at some tournaments , especially the Dana hills tourney .

      • Spartan Pride

        Damien had 2 losses at the tournament. Prior to this the team has had a few scrimmages and have more in the very near future. The team roster is small in quantity but look to the program to continue to build. Players are beginning to come back now with a new coaching staff. The team continues to work as a team and the coaches will continue to coach. Defense is very strong and the offense is building week by week.

  • The truth and nothing but…

    Wow! And Pomona didn’t look good against a depleted San Gabriel team last week. Damien has good size on both side of the line but ZERO skill personnel.

  • OuttaYourMindTrib

    Pomona worked all off season playing adult flag football in Chino. Maybe it helped, maybe it didn’t.

    • AramT

      Wow. Now that’s some serious info. I don’t think I’ve ever heard that before — adult flag football — oh wait, yes I did. South El Monte circa 2005.

      • OuttaYourMindTrib

        They were not the only HS teams out there either. Sundays is one of my walk days and I just happened to be walking at Ayala park in Chino and saw some Flag Football going on so I sat and watched for a while. I saw Ayala’s QB out there, overheard some people saying that Amat was out there (only reason I even give it a shred of credence were the 2014 and 2015 Lettermen’s jackets, and several cars with the Amat “A” on them I saw. Looked like mostly linemen with a few skill guys thrown in. Another team I saw called themselves the “Haggies”. Trend? Who knows, but it’s probably a decent way to get some reps in the offseason. Time will tell if it benefitted any of them.

  • SpartanPride

    Someone got too much sun out there. It was 8-0 when P-Town got tired of getting pushed around so they started a fight to get off the field. Game was called as a tie half way in. Those Pomona coaches were something else. It is no wonder their players have no class. But then again, I wouldn’t expect anything less…

  • Green & Gold

    The game was called after 6 1/2 minutes of playing. The Pomona staff and team lost their stuff when a Sparty Corner threw down the Pomona receiver in a 2nd down attempt. (You tube highlight to follow).
    Passing leagues hold no importance. Damien had an awesome passing league last year and had a losing season with only one season win. This team is very different. Lots of work for Coach Paredes in shaping the whole team as this is a brand new team from the ground up.

    • no-step

      I disagree with your statement that passing leagues hold no importance. Pass defense is no longer just “country zone” and pass offense is no longer “you go long”. The winning of pass leagues is not important, with that I agree, but the coaching, training, learning and chance to execute, lends invaluable practice time for the players, and a tool for the coaches’ evaluations.

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        What makes passing league important is the “spirit of competition”. It requires that your team communicate and come together. It’s also good condition and a space filler during the summer down time. The only issue that I have, is that it’s hard to evaluate when you do not have to worry about the run and you do not have to tackle. On the offensive side of the ball, it’s easy to catch, when you know your not going to hear sweet chin music, and QB has all sorts of lanes to throw through without and line and a rush. Your depth chart could soon change once you strap on the Helmet and Pads.

        • no-step

          Certainly you have a point. I see passing league games as X’s and O’s for the players and time for evaluation of the players and the schemes for the staff.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            all work is good work…don’t get me wrong…but boy people put a lot of hype of passing league…some schools should just scrap it, and lift and run all summer. Some of the bodies you out there does not look like the varsity type.

  • 12th man

    I guess Aram was jumping the gun on reporting the story?

  • GP AKA Green Machine

    If am not mistaken…Mtown and Damien Throw on Thursday at Damien….I do not know the time yet.

    • Money

      Arrive at 4:00 to warm up start playing around 4:30

  • Jastrab

    What is more interesting or a future concern are the numbers. While it is still early in the summer, what are the projected numbers for the varsity roster for 2013? It looks like under 50, but things can change. You can’t go into your last year in the Inland or potentially the PAC 5 with a 40 or 50 man roster. Even Amat at 62 was low and needs in the 75 plus range. Yes, you need quality guys, but the numbers seem low at Sparta for 1,000 plus boys on campus.

    • GP AKA Green Machine

      Football is the most expensive sport to fund. With low numbers and a losing record, do you think the program as a whole is fading away? If they do have 1000 boys on campus and maybe 150 are interested in playing, will the other 850 want money to go the football program or use the money for the other sports and school expenses?

      • Jastrab

        GM,

        I don’t this Damien will abolish football, but the reality (as you point out) is that Damien is a college prep school first and Catholic schools are struggling with how to support football while paying the bills. Look at St. Bernards as an example. You cannot support scholarships on the back of kids paying $7K to $15K because they want a faith based education. I think St. Paul was heading in that direction with 400 boys and girls and trying to build up their football program. Perhaps Chaminade, Serra (Gardena) also may find that you ultimately have to take in more money than you spend. The Diocese will not fund you forever. Damien has about 300 more boys than Amat, but their football numbers seem down – not sure why.

        • GP AKA Green Machine

          interesting point…. that’s a lot to ask for from parents who pay so much. The only thing I can think of is the high school experience. Some kids don’t play, but enjoy going to games and love the school spirit. That might be only reason the Diocese would pay….I hear in some states they provide a voucher program….but I know Cali does not. I wonder if that will come into play. If it does…that might help those schools but then the public schools would be unhappy.

          • Spartan Pride

            This thread of conversation is pointless (in regards to Damien’s roster count). Regardless if Damien has a higher male student body count than Amat is less relevant. Damien has very few scholarship athletes left at the school. The Gano days are gone. Otherwise, St. Bernards would have been a relevant conversation if Gano was still there. The new principal and coaching staff are doing an excellent job. And for those who have not been to a Damien game, the Spartans have high attendance football games (regardless of season record). The student body and their fans are loyal. Damien has endowments, a great administration, alumni supporters and boosters. The school is doing fine and each of their sports are well supplied. If in doubt, please see the basketball auditorium which the entire valley uses for tournaments and all star games, the Damien baseball field with Pro Stadium seats that were donated by two parents/former alumni and the Ice Hockey team that is outfitted with custom green & gold Anaheim Duck uniforms.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            I didn’t know Damien had all that…Nice!

          • AMAT 73

            GP,

            Most well established Catholic high schools have all those things listed by Spartan Pride. At AMAT we have much of the same , great boosters, Alums and many generous people who have established endowments and scholarships for all who meet the certain critiria for the different scholarships or assitance if needed . AMAT is lucky to have so many faithful backers and they are deeply appreciated . Just imagine what schools like MD and RSM have in their war chests . Usually with the privates football brings in some of the funds to support other programs on campus . Just think of all the cars you see parked on our campus during games as 5 dollar bills and more from the tailgate section parking .

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Well, I wonder why some public schools are nice and some suck in the same district……Well if you pay and raise money and work hard like Amat, Damien, and MD Does…you deserve all that your programs have.

          • Jastrab

            Spartan Pride,

            I have older brothers that went to Damien so I have a lot of respect for the school, but your administration is led by Amat alum who will only be around for a short time…he already retired once. Damien has not been doing well from a pure private school bases for some years and thankfully they made some major changes. The big question for the school to continue to move in the right direction is development admin/management from within the campus. I gather if they had internal candidates that they cultivated they would have hired someone from within. When MH retires, again, who will be there to make sure they do not falter again. Parades is a great hire, but alumni, including my brothers, will have to accept major change to be truly successful or revert back having all the potential to dominate in football, but never seem to take that next big step.

            Lastly, like Amat against Long Beach, roster numbers will be important as you move into the PAC5. I watched how Long Beach Poly moved in and out nearly their entire DL like a hockey team and did not drop off at all!

      • Dr. Jekyll

        Most Private Schools fund their football programs by charging the football players Athletic Fees. My friends kid plays football for a private school and he told me that it usually costs him in the neighborhood of $2,000 – $2,500 in total fees from Spring, Summer, and Fall. It could be that the schools General Fund kicks in some money to cover any shortage, but in general, the Athletic/Football fees cover the lions share of costs to run the football program. I’m sure that in addition to the Athletic Fees that many of these privates receive financial support from Sponsors and Alums as well. My point being that the 850 students in your example would have very little to say about the money that goes into the program because it’s not their money and it’s not coming out of their pockets.

        • GP AKA Green Machine

          Interesting….I really put things in perspective, so really there is no need to panic regarding the state of a private school football program. Damien’s main issue would be holding on to their talent. How many players receive scholarships and what is the criteria for getting financial help to attend a school like this?

        • Jastrab

          Even at $2,500 for a team of 50 football players that is only $125,000. Privates generally have to hire their own buses, equipment, insurance, coaches salaries etc and you better hope you have 5K to 10K at the games to split and cover for the real expenses. If you look at 850 times $10K in total revenue from tuition and tuition related income that $8.5M so I am sure there is some balance in having a 100K non core class teaching coach or a decent AP program lead by someone who actually knows what they are doing.

          • Dr Jekyll

            Don’t forget in addition to the 50-60 kids on Varsity you still have 30-40 kids on JV and a Freshmen team that could be anywhere from 60-75 kids. I would think your average program has about 150 to 175 kids total across all three teams. 150 x $2,500 = $375,000

  • Colt74

    Covina at Damien today.

    • Jastrab

      What time?

      • Colt74

        Now.

  • Money

    There are hurdles to get over for Damien to say the least but if you guys don’t think Paredes is on the right track you are in for a big surprise.