NEW! All-Encompassing SGV(N) Top 25 (post-passing circuit edition) …

altos
Yeah, I said. Los Altos is back!!!

Note: The next All-Encompassing Top 25 will be out just before the start of the season. We’ve now had spring practice, passing games and a transfer season to digest and help form better opinions.

1. Bishop Amat — Rare, strong showing on passing circuit. Hmm …
2. La Mirada — Maybe the nontstop hype is getting to me.
3. La Habra — Got transfers and size, they’re back.
4. Chino Hills — Reloaded and ready to re-claim Sierra.
5. Charter Oak — Still talented, but experience is lacking.
6. La Serna — Seeking third straight finals appearance.
7. South Hills — Opened eyes by winning Santa Fe tourney.
8. Monrovia — Run-heavy team had so-so passing circuit.
9. Los Altos — Here it is, my SURPRISE TEAM.
10. St. Francis — Like what I’ve heard about talent level.
11. West Covina — Formidable again if adequate QB is found.
12. Diamond Bar — Loaded with skill guys even sans Noodles.
13. San Dimas — You don’t lose Jake Payton and get better.
14. La Salle — Poised for another big regular season.
15. Diamond Ranch — QB play is key for Panthers’ chances.
16. Claremont — Ready to be a factor again in Sierra.
17. Santa Fe — Beat La Mirada in ’12 and QB looks legit.
18. Arroyo — Another quality product forthcoming.
19. Muir — Quiet on passing circuit is worrisome.
20. Rio Hondo Prep — Tayco left, Tayco right, Tayco all night.
21. Montebello — Confirmed: Talent is improved.
22. Bonita — Nothing flashy, but solid all around.
23. Rowland — RB DUffus + excellent O-line. Scary again.
24. Whittier Chr. — Program maintains quality.
25. Duarte — Might be too athletic for Montview.

  • GP AKA Green Machine

    This looks really good. Monrovia making the top 10 despite having a mediocre passing league season, is good for me. With two teams ranked in the top 10 on their Schedule, they could climb the charts twice…A) St Francis vs La Mirada game is a great comparison game along with how La Mirada does against La Habra and BA could also be a great comparison.. How Monrovia does against South Hills compiled with how SH does in sierra league play could determine a ranking later on as well.

    1. Bishop Amat- Best passing league showing. Best QB, lots of skills and the top program. How can you argue for now. The Serra league is looking to be strong again this season.

    2. La Mirada- the Hype continues. They have so much to prove this season along with Mtown. Anything less than a finals appearance would be a let down. Keep your eyes on the prize LM.

    3. La Habra- Look great this year. The LM game is going to be huge. This ranking is high to me based upon transfers, but they look good over the summer. Lets see if they can put it together all year.

    4. This is the year Chino Hills wins the Sierra. I saw them over the summer and look big and athletic. CO has ran that league, but it looks like it’s anyone’s sierra. CH plays well in the Inland playoffs 1st place in league could set them up for a semis run.

    5.Cee Ohhh- Kory Brown looks to be one of the top QB’s in the area…However he does not have the silly talent he has over. I spoke to Co coach at Bonita. tourney.He says they are young..I say they still look good. 1st or 2nd in Sierra.

    6.La Serna- Frankie Baby…I have not heard much about their Defense…They are going to score, however, they are going to need to stop people. I still see the Semis or better in their future.

    7. South Hills- People are sleeping on them, but they may steal 2nd place spot with an upset. They want to make sure it’s not Vista M in the first round.

    8. Go Green!

    9. Los Altos- I keep hearing sleeper team, but Los Altos has never been that. Solid talent, Solid Program…lets see what it does..

    10 St Francis..Big QB, D1 TE and WR….If the Defense is good, they will be good. They can score.

    Bonus

    Dbar- Loosing Noodles knocked them out the top ten. However, if they can stop the run…they might do some damage. The Hacienda is wide Open.

    West Co-Loosing Noodles was a blow, and all the bad press was bad for Morale, but WC is going to play ball and will be good.

    San Dimas- How do you recover from losing your best player….We will see if coach z can duplicate that kind of Production…

    Go Falcons.

  • reality

    Where’s Damien?

    • For real

      Not a huge Damien or Glendora guy, but Aram’s got to be out of his mind if he thinks some of these d11 & D12 teams that he has listed can beat the Spartans or Tartans.

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        Probably. But if you saw Damien at Bonita, you probably wouldn’t have them on your list either. Lol. They’re not that athletic. I’m not being mean saying that, it’s just an observation.

        Of course it’s 7 on 7 with no defensive pressure on the QB, nor a line in front trying to maintain their blocks.

        I’m more interested in the list right before the season starts. That should be more telling.

        • no-step

          You’re correct. I saw them at Bonita, and they better be able to run ’cause they sure can’t pass!

          • Not So Fast My Friend

            Lol!

        • GP AKA Green Machine

          This ranking is a mixture who’s athletic and who’s showing promise to have a good year. It’s not the most important ranking, but it’s what’s been evaluated up to date. If teams have not made a peep in any of the passing league tourney’s this summer they can not be ranked high on this one.

          • Not Since 1995

            What if you’re team is a CIF Division 11.5? Should they be ranked higher than a team like Glendora…?

            C’mon man…! Your team couldn’t beat Glendora and you know it…!

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            You should be asking any Glendora fans why they lost to the midvalley kings….We already beat Glendora…..but your dyslexia and amnesia always get’s you in trouble…go back continue bothering BA fans….You know you can’t bully me…so why try…

          • Not Since 1995

            You’re right…MildCAT…!

            You did beat Glendora in 2011.

            That was the same year that you got your A$$ handed to you by ARCADIA, followed by SAN DIMAS and SOUTH HILLS…!

            But you wouldn’t remember that cuz in your little neck of the world you don’t like to recall the losses to perinial losers like Arcadia and Rosemead…! Do you…boy?

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            all that is true so stop hyping Gledora…you should have just came with something else…D11 is not the same as D1…I never said that….several D7 teams lost Midvalley teams, including 2 time back to back Westco..Remember The Colts?

          • Not So Fast My Friend

            Probably not. But those making a lot of 7 on 7 noise aren’t guaranteed anything either. Lol

  • GP AKA Green Machine

    #8 Go Green!

  • mr power

    aram,

    normally you base this off of something passing league BS.
    are you basing your los altos ranking off the weight room work? or do you have another angle?

    maranatha is a sleeper team you may want to take a look at.

    i wouldn’t put my faith into diamond bar or montebello.

    la serna is underrated… by how they perform on the field and who they have beaten they should be higher. but i get why you ranked them where you have them. eyeball wise most would pick the other 5 teams ahead of them.

    • disqus_wD2qThRkJd

      Its funny you targeted out 2 teams out of the 25! Got a chip on your shoulder??

      • mr power

        no chip. just facts. could you tell me how many playoff games montebello has won under its current staff?

        could you also tell me how many diamond bar has won with its staff?

        i believe both programs have the players to be top 25. but it takes more than players to do well in a football season.

        one program is inept offensively and one program is inept defensively. anyone who has been around the block a couple of times will know which is which.

        • GP AKA Green Machine

          Broadus played DE for BDar last year…go figure.

        • Football Fan

          DB hired Tom Inglima as their new DC, didn’t they? He has a very good track record, so I wouldn’t sleep on that D this year

      • mr power

        no chip. just facts. could you tell me how many playoff games montebello has won under its current staff?

        could you also tell me how many diamond bar has won with its staff?

        i believe both programs have the players to be top 25. but it takes more than players to do well in a football season.

        one program is inept offensively and one program is inept defensively. anyone who has been around the block a couple of times will know which is which.

    • AramT

      It’s a comb of things for all teams. You have to look at all the components we have to go on right now. The teams haven’t gotten in pads yet … haven’t played games or scrimmages … so all we can go off of is returning starters, newcomers, passing games, line competitions, rumors, innuendo, testimonials, how they look frame-wise in passing games regardless of scores. All those things.

      For LA, their line is excellent. Their main weapon Marcos is outstanding. The QB is returning. The DE Jimenez is a star in the making. The coaching is excellent.They are going to get out there do what they do … and I suspect it will be done with precision, like it was 2 years ago.

      • mr power

        LA installed a new system last year then the qb went down. made it tough for them. do you know if they are running the same system? year two in a new offense teams usually make huge strides.

        i know you got blasted for rating monrovia a little high before but if scoby plays… they may not lose. he is very bienemy like in such a low division. he will be very difficult to tackle and backs can carry teams in lower divisions.

        • GP AKA Green Machine

          #8 is quite low from previous years. It’s a good spot. All of the backs Mtown has had in the past 3 years have destroyed the Midvalley division. Coach is not big on running up the score or boosting stats. If Scoby plays, he won’t get many carries past half time. However he still will have at least 2,000 yards in the mid. If he plays a 3 qtrs or more for 15-16 games, he could get 3000 + yrds.

          • mr power

            16 games is good goal for you guys. totally agree on the yards.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            16 has to be goal…With talent in the program and the talent they go up against…the tough games are weeks 1-5 and 13-16. It’s hard being in our position…Mtown football has develop well beyond the other sports on campus. It would great to be in the south east in the Pacific or Hacienda. There we could lose league and lose a 2nd round playoff game. But you are where you are and you just have to win those games….We tend to have great athletes like Scoby in our area but sometimes the division we are in leads them go to a school in higher division and they sometimes move in the 7-8th grade.

  • Kurt Stone

    I’ve seen a few of these teams in the 7 on 7′s and some of their practices, and the top 8 on this list is pretty accurate in my opinion. But this is still just a preseason ranking. I’m sure things will change for some of these teams come next month. As for Damien, they looked really bad so far. It could be a very long season for Paredes in his first year at the helm. And then they get moved up to D-1 next season, wow what a shocker that will be for them. But overall I would say that Aram is pretty accurate based on what has been available to see so far.

    • Saints Fan

      Shame, Damien lost a lot. No returning QB, who is going to be the RB? Their defense will be much better and they should have much better DLine & OLine but what is behind them? It will be a real shame as we will never really know how good their Defense is / should be because I predict them LIVING on the field as the offense could struggle greatly and thus not keep defense off the field.

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        Their new coach has his work cut out for him. Certainly the last coach soured the atmosphere which I’m sure led to at least one up and coming player leaving for Upland.

        Again basing it on what I saw at Bonita, at their skill positions they are not that athletic. That doesn’t mean once their OLine is in place they don’t at least have a ground game. In fact, if I were coaching them, knowing my outside receivers could be better, I’d develop a ball control offense and force the run game. I’d pass to keep a defense honest and take my shots occasionally thru the air. However, in the end, we would be simply ground and pound. It’s not exciting and it’s not attractive, but neither is getting blown out either. And if their skill positions are any indication, it could be a long season.

        They do have one bright spot on defense that I saw. Their MLB is pretty good. He’s a solid kid who moves well in space. His coverage skills could use some more work, but that may be more from the defensive scheme than talent. I didn’t look him up, but if I recall I think someone called him “Joe.” I’m not sure about that tho.

        • Saints Fan

          He is by far the best player on defense, other than Sanchez who is a beast on the DLine. They are going to have to do some blitzing and mixing it up with the defensive front & LB’s cuz I don’t think their DB’s & LB’s are going to be able to cover very long. I expect them to play tough against the run, struggle with a throwing team unless they scheme up front to get to the QB quickly.

          • Not So Fast My Friend

            I totally agree.

  • Not Since 1995

    Every year…!

    Same old guarache at number 1…! Yawn…Yawwwwn…!

    This too will end with the same old Thanksgiving day meal. Lancers-Ka-Bob with a side of wait til next year…! Heh…heh! Heh…heh! Heh…heh!!!

    18 years and NO CIF Championship…!

    and Not in 2013 either…

    .

    • Kurt Stone

      I would love to know who this dude is “Not Since 1995″. I’m just curious to know why his animosity to Amat. He comes across very cowardly. This All encompassing list ranks the teams in the SGV. Yes Amat is at the top, and should be. Is there another team in the SGV that has beaten Amat recently? No….Again this year we will have a chance to see if CO or Chino Hills can beat Amat. Both games should be good. This year both those schools come to Keifer stadium, so I think Amat might have the edge. As for the playoffs, hopefully Amat does better this year. But in the big picture, are there any teams in the SGV that could even hang in D-1? I doubt it. Just wait til Damien plays in D-1 next season and you will see the rude awakening of how tough it is every game in D-1. I think it is great for any team to win a championship in their respective division. But I also think that for some teams, such as Amat, they cherish the challenge of competing in the top division, against the best of the best. And when they do win it, it is that much sweeter. Take a look at all the D-1 schools and tell me how many have actually won it all. You will find that many excellent programs have not even won it all once. If Amat came down to say the Sierra or the Hacienda, don’t you think they would probably be in it every year? I’m not saying they would win it every year, but they would always be there in the final 4 or so. Amat doesn’t want that. They want to be challenged. I know that when I chose Amat for my son, and when many parents choose Amat for their boys, they want to be competing in D-1 against the Servites, the Mater Deis, the Long Beach Polys. It’s tradition, it’s a challenge, and it is the knowledge that you can play with and many times beat the very best.

      • AramT

        I gotta do it …

        Kurt Stone’s argument, which is made by MANY Amat fans, just doesn’t hold water.

        It’s a lot like Tennessee telling Nevada “let’s see how good you’d do in the SEC.”

        There’s no comparing Amat’s world to that of the other locals. Amat is a D-1 parochial, meanwhile the rest of the area teams are pretty much (beside Damien) public schools in various divisions, the biggest being those who are wrongly in the Inland, i.e. CO and SH.

        So you can’t act like Amat and CO and South Hills and Arroyo and Monrovia and Workman all start on equal footing and Amat does better than them.

        You have to judge them by how they do in their particular corner of the world. Fact is, several other local teams do better in their corner of the world than Amat does in its corner of the world. Doesn’t mean these teams would beat Amat head-to-head, but it does mean you shouldn’t compare them.

        I stand by what I’ve said in the past: There are years in which a local team COULD beat Amat, but the overwhelming majority of the time, they could not. We saw that last year when CO gave up a 30-0 run to Amat.

        I think most SGV fans hope that Amat will hold down its own corner of the world as well as other SGV school do theirs — Monrovia and RHP and West Covina and so on.

        • AMAT 73

          Aram,
          Posted a reply to your post earlier but it got the message held by moderator . Is it there or do I need to post again ????

          • Not So Fast My Friend

            Amat, what’s your preseason thoughts on the Crespi vs Amat game?

          • AMAT 73

            NSFMF,

            We will beat them . It seems as if either Crespi is up and ND is down or vice versa. This year it looks as if ND is up so maybe we can expect Crespi to be down . Haven’t seen a year in quite a while when both are up at the same time. Plus new coach , even though he is a Crespi Man as they like to say , still new to the players and installing a new system .

          • Not So Fast My Friend

            When I looked at their schedule it didn’t look like it was loaded with cream puffs. But it should be interesting just the same. Totally agree with the new system and even more, getting a feel for the players he has.

          • AramT

            That’s odd … lemme check … I’ve never even heard of that before.

          • AMAT 73

            Aram.
            Thanks for taking the time to look. On another note NY had posted if the 2 unfortunate players Noodles and Payton could possibly play for a City Section team this season and I poised the question to any of you three if that was possible . Could it happen ??.

          • AramT

            Couldn’t happen. I don’t believe they’re eligible anywhere in the state (maybe even country) except for their place of last eligibility. Not 100 pct sure, but relatively.

        • Kurt Stone

          Aram,
          I appreciate an intellectual dialogue, and I respect your opinion. But the problem I have pertains to your comment where you state that because Amat is a D-1 Parochial school then they seem to have an unfair advantage. In reality, the opposite is true. If you took a look at the real numbers, then you would see that Amat puts out a very competitive team each year with limited numbers. Amat has right about 1300 students. Half are girls, so the pool of boys is 650. The vast majority of these 650 boys actually come to Amat for the level of education and parochial guidance they receive. Yet Amat still puts a very competitive team out each year. And as for recruiting, Amat does little to nothing when it comes to recruiting. Many parents actually ask why Amat doesn’t recruit as much as others. I was one parent who asked that question. The answer to that is that the coaching staff runs their team a certain way. Basically you follow the rules, the program, and the tradition. If you don’t like it, then there’s the door. The perfect example was Hauser. Amat doesn’t worry about one player, rather they concentrate on the whole. So my point here is that Amat puts out a very good team each year, while actually having the disadvantage of not recruiting, and having a smaller body of boys to pull players from. If you compare Amat to say Servite, or SJB, those schools are all boys schools, with about 900-1000 enrollment. Amat will always do what is best for the school and the program over bringing in those big recruits at any cost. The example for this is the whole Scoby situation. Amat loved his talent, but hated his baggage.

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        We have this same discussion every year…Amat has the toughest schedule, they lose because D1 is tough . All of this is true….They are continually ranked #1 in blogs top 25 in state life is great right?….If any local team wants to prove they can beat Amat; schedule them and see what happens. I don’t think anyone argues this anymore. Just because some say that Amat is not good enough for D1, does not mean that they are saying that their school can beat them, or that Amat would not win D11 every year like Monrovia. Every time another program’s blogger says that their season is going to be tough…It does not have to be followed by “yeah but if they were in D1…” BA fans should just accept where they are on the D1 Landscape or get passed the 2nd round. You don’t need to make excuses or compare to others in the sgv. Live in your corner, accept your corner and be happy. If you not happy your not winning, then go to school that has a better chance of winning their division. It’s Like you wrote, that’s why you sent your son there. You signed up for it.

      • Not Since 1995

        Turd Stone…

        I am honest with who Bishop NoMas really is. It only hurts you cuz I’m right…

        I agree 100% with Aram…You are not good enough in your little corner of the world…!

        Not in 2013 either…

        • Kurt Stone

          To: Not Since 1995
          Your response is perfect to show the ignorant, illiterate moron that you are. All you could say was that you agree with Aram, because you can’t put together a coherent dialogue yourself. HaHa idiot…..

          • Not Since 1995

            TURD Stones

            But you didn’t disagree wtih me…! Did you…boy?

            What coherent dialogue do you want to get into…Turd Stones…?

            That Bishop NoMas haven’t won a CIF Championship in football in 18 years?

            That you can’t compete in the Serra League?

            That the only way to get into the playoffs is to win a 3-way “Coin-Flip”

            That in your little corner of the world, the PAC 5 would rather see you go to the Western Division where you could actually compete?

            You know that I’m right about everything that I say on this blog…! Like it or not…you know that your team is a 3rd level D-1 school who CANNOT compete with the elite teams of the PAC 5…!

            And cuts deeply into your Lancerito INFLATED EGO…!
            Nobody on this blog is impressed by the Lanceritos…! Your history is just that…History!
            Not In 2013 either…

          • just

            you must have been a CIF champion year after year the way you talk, but we all know anyone that has some talent is not going to talk crap online. A true athlete compliments other good athletes, it’s jealousy that’s why all you do is post stuff over and over about Amat. You probably couldn’t qualify academically and are still bitter 20 years later.. Sad life it must be and a sad home, lonely life..

      • observantcat

        I agree with you on some of your Amat argument, but if you think that Amat parents send their kids to Amat to play against the best in D-1 I would have to disagree, because Amat lacks big time the D- players that they choose to play against. Other area schools aren’t as fortunate to have a open school policy which allows the best in your area to attend school on a consistent basis, the reason I say that is because of schools like Bishop Alemany who steps into your league and begins to dominate with just a few recruits from the Pasadena area. Imagine if Alemany grabbed all of those D1 players from the Monrovia, Pasadena area? Then you would be looking at a dynasty, but luckily for some public schools such as Monrovia most of the better athletes do stay and have created a dynasty. Monrovia still sends kids to Loyola, St. Francis, La Salle, Maranatha etc… but overall it is a small school with a Big Bite. On any given Friday I do believe that some of the local schools would put up a good fight and could come out with a win against a team like Amat. I see Amat as the best players in it’s surrounding community as well as some transfers from the Pasadena area to make up it’s skill players, with out the transfers Amat would be another Maranatha. As far as getting to the point where the respect is being mounted for Amat, it will take making it to the Finals and making a real game of it for SGV Fans concede that Amat is the true number one in the area.

        • 12th man

          Interesting!! Didn’t know Amat had transfers from the Pasadena area? Do you care to elaborate on some names? I always thought Amat had the short end of the stick when it came to transfers competing in the pac5?

          • observantcat

            Dionza Blue.. Pasadena Kid…. Certainly they are not getting that many simply because of the Alemany effect as well as the smaller private schools in the area such as La Salle, Maranatha, even as far as Loyola.

        • AMAT 73

          Ocat,
          So who do you really feel is the true number one in the SGV. Yes AMAT has not made it the finals is true and say that doing that will make them the true number one in your mind , excuse me , SGV Fans , so that means there is a true number one out there not getting their just do . Tell us who is it ?????? I am sure the SGV Fans are waiting to know who they should call # 1.

          • observantcat

            Amat 73, this year I will certainly say with ease that Amat would be ranked #1 thus far, I hope that they achieve the same respect within the confines of the PAC 5 as well. My concern as a fan is putting everything together so that it becomes a reality and not just a hope and a prayer. In other seasons, I would say being number 1 in the area did not give you the automatic bid for being the top football program in the area. I do hope that Amat proves not only to us but its fans that it is as big outside of the San Gabriel Valley as it is within. I see the future being nothing but bright for the Lancers.

          • AMAT 73

            Ocat,

            I personally do not put much stock into this ranking . I will admit AMAT had a better showing in the passing leagues then they’ve had in quite a while . So if this is based on just passing league results then yes there is reason to have AMAT at 1 . But as I said was it because we beat Upland , second to RSM and lost to SJB in the quarters . Other teams had solid performances but maybe not against teams of caliber listed above. So did corner of the world tilt in AMAT’s favor or . I would say aside from this blog AMAT does have that respect in the PAC-5 of a team very capable of knocking a team off on any given Friday night . Not saying we are in the top 5 teams or going to make the quarters or semis or get past the first round , just saying teams in the PAC-5 know they have to bring their A game when they play us . Also on Alemany they not only get many Pasadena kids but also some of those SFV kids who would go to Crespi or ND and maybe that’s why the talent level of those schools suffers from time to time . Most of the blog is just focused on Pasadena kids ( our corner of the world so to speak) and forgets or doesn’t realize the whole SFV contributes and there are some big kids out there . In closing I wish the scibes would use a different format or even throw data into a computer to come up with a number one instead of using some inexact formula to name a number 1 that basically pisses off the whole SGV if it winds up being AMAT ( as I wrote MTown had good reason to wind up there as did RHP as Joe AMAT mentioned at the end of last season ) and lights up the blog with hits, but maybe that’s why it’s done in the first place . Good luck to the Cats this season on going for that 4peat .

  • WCDan

    My on the field head to head rankings.

    1-Bishop Amat, – In thier average years they are on a different level than pretty much the rest of the SGV, but like Aram mentioned, add in the fact of how they performed on the passing circuit over the summer and I think this team is clear cut #1 in SGV.

    2- La Mirada – unusuall collection of talent for a SE team, pressure is on to see how it all comes together.

    3- La Habra – They and La Mirada could probably be interchangeable at the #2 & #3 positions.

    4- South Hills – I think this might be the sleeper team of the SGV, a couple of good qb’s and recievers, and I hear Adam Goss has been tearing it up this summer over the passing circuit, we already know what he can do once he catches the ball, they usually have big lines to go, and this group of seniors were very good as freshmen.

    5- Charter Oak – Chargers lost a lot to graduation, haven’t heard much about them this offseason, but due to strong tradition I have them ranked this high.

    6- La Serna – I believe they have most starters coming back from a team that made it to the championship. In addition Frankie Palmer has been nails these past couple of years and now he is a senior.

    7- Chino Hills – No Simko and No Austin and I have heard nothing about them over the summer but they are another team that has to be up here do to traditional strength.
    8- Glendora – Their group of seniors were another very good team as freshmen, if they are still together this should be another suprise team and could easily finish in the top 5.
    9- Monrovia – Scoby could be a huge boost to this team if he plays, heard on here they once again have lots of speed, and the line finished 8th at the WC line comp.
    10- Diamond Ranch – The Panthers had some very good lower levels these past couple years, combine that with some very good key returners coming back and they could be the sleeper of the Hacienda.
    West Co could be very good or average like last year depending on a few factors, too hard to say at this point
    but will not be suprised if they end up in top 5 by seasons end.

    • Not Since 1995

      I predict a losing season for Bishop NoMas…!
      I forsee a 3 and 6 record. They will not make playoffs. Not even by a “coin-flip”!
      Santa Margarita, Chino Hills, Rancho Cuc, and Charter Oak to start the season…? This schedule will create several bumps and bruises (as usual) that will derail their Serra season…! Once again…Not enough size up front, not enough speed at the running back, weak defense, and not enough of a bench to support the starters…!
      Sound familiar…Lanceritos…!
      Not In 2013 either…

      • WCDan

        Don’t know about 3 and 7 Not Since, I could see them being favored in 5 of their 6 preseason games with Santa Margarita being the only pre season team favored over them.
        As for the Serra league it will be tough, who knows what happens there, every game is usually close in that league, I think Alemany is down this year but I read somewhere that ND is loaded, and Crespi is talented this year
        too.

    • GP AKA Green Machine

      Dan I could not rank Glendora over Mtown…the series is 1-1 and Mtown has more talent than them at the moment…and probably would have beat them last year.

      1. BA- Best summer showing, best QB very talented skills. If the line is up to par, will finish 2nd in serra

      2. La Mirada- Hyped in 2013 but the talent is there, so is the pressure to deliver

      3.Chino Hills- They look really athletic this year. The Sierra is ripe for the picking…1st place and they could be in the semis

      4 La Habra-Hyped in 2013 but look really good in PL. If the beat LM start looking for a title run

      5. CO- Solid, QB is very good. They are replacing some talent, but not many teams below them could beat them.

      6. La Serna-2nd best QB in the SGV… Defense will tell the tale. Should be in the semis of better.

      7.South hills- I to think they are a sleeper, but for 2nd place…They are attempting to get a 1st round opponent they can handle.

      8. Mtown..perfect Spot… Weeks 1-5 and 11-16 will determine where the Cats finish

      9. Los Altos- Solid program, always good. They just can’t slip up to any lower level opponents. The Hacienda is ripe for the picking

      10. St Francis- D1 talanet at 2 positions, big QB…will their defense be up to par come mission league time….

      Wesco-Bad press, lots of drama, but a championship program will always find a way to be good.

      Dbar- Made for PL, but will that Oline and Dline bring home the goods?

      Glendora-I just didn’t see anything over the summer…however they are still baseline cannon fotter.

      Dranch- I heard they lost a few players to Cathedral..is the true?

      San Dimas- Lost their best player…Still should win league, but after that…TBD

      • WCDan

        GP, your quote,

        “Dan I could not rank Glendora over Mtown…the series is 1-1 and Mtown has more talent than them at the moment…and probably would have beat them last year.”

        I’m more or less going by Glendora’s group of seniors this season, they were good as freshmen beating other good frosh teams such as CO, Rancho C. Etiwanda, and even your Wildcats. I think their only losses were to Los Osos by a TD and Upland by about 3 tds. They also spanked our Bulldogs which is why I remember them, they must have left an impression on me. As you and I know that does not mean much today as things change and teams progress differently. A factor in Monrovia’s favor is the addition of Scoby, but all I remember is that Glendora frosh team was good and they were huge in both size and numbers.

        • GP AKA Green Machine

          Dan, that was 3 years ago….Mtown line has size as well on both sides of the ball to match the Tartans size. Glendora does not have the speed to beat Mtown. I don’t think that the margin of victory would be 3 TDs like vs Upland. But I would say Mtown is 7-3 pts better than GHS. But Inland opponents are tough for us.

          • WCDan

            GP ,
            I didn’t see Monrovia this summer so I have no clue on them except for what you write on here, I do know you guys lost a senior class that was in three title games so weather you guys return size and talent or not there will be lots of question marks. Didn’t see much of Glendora this year so that is why I went by how this senior class did as freshmen. It seemed like they had 80 guys lined up when WC freshmen played them three years ago. One other thing is these guys are used to banging heads with Baseline teams,

    • Not So Fast My Friend

      Is Scoby going to be able to play at Monrovia this year?

      I think CH should be fine without Simko or Austin. They have a new DC who is fire and brimstone which should make their defense 100% better.

      Glendora is always hit and miss.

      Charter Oak will be interesting to see how they do without their mainstays.

      Bishop Amat should be very intriguing. I’ve already calendared the BH vs CH matchup again. Last year there were plenty of fireworks and poor officiating. Hopefully this year the officiating improves. lol

      After watching La Mirada’s hype video, I’m pretty interested to see how they do. I watched some film of their WR Dallas Todd. Big solid WR. Their QB looks very good as well. Outside of Tesoro and Servite, I’m not familiar with the other schools they play. So I’m going to show my ignorance of their level (D2-D10?), but I’d love to see them against Monrovia.

      • WCDan

        NSFMF,

        I hope Scoby becomes eligible, despite all the controversy with the other transfers, I wished they all could have played.

        As for Glendora they were down the last year or two but they usually were in the running for the Sierra crown when Pasquelera was there. Maybe in this second year with this new coaching staff they can get the ball rolling once again.

        La Mirada is D7 to answer your question, In addition to Servite and Tesoro their game with La Habra should be very interesting, as will St. Francis if the Golden Knights can rebound to there old caliber of play.

        • Not So Fast My Friend

          I agree with Scoby. I hope he does to. I saw him in 7 on 7 and his first step (as well with every step after) is explosive. Very impressive athlete.

          I’m going to keep my eye on Glendora. They’re pretty athletic, so here’s hoping as you said they get the ball rolling again.

          I’m going to check LM’s schedule and see if I can squeeze in a game. I’m very interested to see the level of competition Todd competes against. Not the teams per se, but the level of DB talent.

          • big daddy

            I would say, what type of talent is he going against and what type of scheme. I tell you this, he is no Bryce Treggs. He hooked up when Oklahoma offered him. Usually when you are 6’5 210 you just sign on the dotted line. What is his 40 time?
            what does he bench and squat?
            shuttle?How is his toughness?

          • Not So Fast My Friend

            Exactly. Which is why I’m curious about the quality of DBs he plays against.

        • Not So Fast My Friend

          WCDan, I responded earlier. Don’t know what happened to the post though. Let’s try again.

          I agree about Scoby. That kid’s first step is explosive, along with his second, third, fourth, lol.

          Here’s hoping Glendora figures out which team it wants to be. They certainly have the athletes for it. Hopefully some stability in the coaching will help them get there.

          I’m going to keep an eye out for that La Mirada vs La Habra game. However, not knowing the caliber of DB play he faces, I’d love to see Todd against some of the top ones in the area. He’s impressive. Might have to wait for an all-star game for that though.

  • blue

    Not sure about duarte, azusa’s freshman team demolished duartes jv. Wouldnt doubt those kids are on varsity now

    • AZTEC PRIDE

      Here we go with some AzusA info. AzusA has a nice squad out there and I think they want to be right back were they were!

      • AMAT 73

        AZTECRUSADER PRIDE,
        What’s up bro. Have you heard about the big picnic August 10th at Schabarum park . All my RAM buddies have been texting , e-mailing about it . Suppose to bring over 200 RAM fans out for a huge day in the park and rally.

        • AZTEC PRIDE

          Alright Amat73 is that Ram Rally being sponsor by Southern Calif boosters? Year’s back went to one and it was sweet seeing all those die hard Ram Fans. Will try to make it and will have to shake your hand good buddy! My son takes off Aug 9, back to play Crusader football and been home all summer being a beach bum. The only kid in AzusA who surfs. LOL, Will have to make A REAL RALLY!~ ALWAYS A RAMS FAN~

        • big daddy

          RAIDERS!!!

          • AMAT 73

            BD ,
            So you’re a Rowland fan ???????

      • blue

        Yeah mantheyhave a few sophmores that are VERY talentedthat also played on the azusa raiders championship team

        • AZTEC PRIDE

          What happened to my previous post ARAM?

  • 12th man

    Been pushing for Amat to change their style of offense to a “no huddle” the times have changed & the ground & pound has worked for Amat in previous years but it clearly hasn’t gotten them over the hump..If there any was a year to give it a go..this would be it! Having a QB with great speed & is a dual threat can only help your ground game which will be struggling this year..Most dominant teams from the pac5 or Inland made the move to a “no huddle” a few years ago & have never looked back..

    • GP AKA Green Machine

      I don’t know if Haynes is a dual threat…he’s more like a move your chains type qb. He is smart, so you can trust him to audible and make the right play. No huddle would help BA tremendously. With one of the smaller lines, No hud would level the playing field, tiring out much larger Dlinemen and LB’s. This would also force them to use more players, helping them stay a little more healthy. They should also look at some variation of the spread. BA just can’t muscle teams at the moment.

  • Local

    Aram,

    Does this mean you’re picking Los Altos to win the Hacienda?

    • AramT

      Yes. I admit it will be close because every team but Walnut has a chance.

      • disqus_wD2qThRkJd

        Booo!! LOL

    • Magic 8 Ball

      Hacienda predictions
      1. Dranch – First place team last year with the use of almost all Jrs. will be heavily laiden with Srs. this year.
      2. Dbar – Finished 1 game out of the money last year with mostly Sophs. and Jrs.
      3. Bonita – Tied for 1st last year and this years Senior class was 10-0 as Freshmen.
      4. Westco – Lost a little MoJo last year and will lose even more this year. (welcome back to the pack)
      5. Los Altos – Good size, light on play makers and QB = so, so. The 2015 Class is good so look for them to challenge next year.
      6. Rowland – Those that didn’t respect them last year got blind-sided. The above teams with better talent will be looking for payback this year.
      7. Walnut – Might not score a single point this year in league play. Thank god there is a 4th qt. mercy rule.

  • Magic 8 Ball

    Sierra Predictions”
    1. CH – Tons of talent and a better coaching staff this year. Transfer from Upland is a pretty good QB from what I hear and remember the name Chas Eldridge (wr & corner)
    2. CO – I seem to remember the Class of 2014 as a real good group of players as Freshmen
    3. SH – Another good crop of kids as Freshmen but I give CO the nod because they recruit better at the Jr. and Sr. level.
    4. Claremont – I saw them in passing league this year and was impressed by how much better they looked then last year.
    5. Ayala – above Damien by default
    6. Damien – Word in the air is things not looking to bright in Sparta.

  • Magic 8 Ball

    Sera Predictions:
    1. ND – Sounds like they have the most returning talent
    2. Allemany – Coach is a hard-core recruiter, you never know how Pasadena kids the’ll show up with.
    3. Amat – Sounds like a young team this year.
    4. Crespi – Hard to bounce back after sending 11 kids onto D1
    5. Loyola – Things just haven’t been the same over the past decade.

    • mr power

      loyola should have the best defense in the league with the new staff. and the have some horses to tote the rock. the other four teams are all finesse if bishop decides to toss it around. remember poly won this division last year.

    • Not So Fast My Friend

      Alamany, that was funny and very true!

      As for Crespi, the Troy Thomas honeymoon remains in full bloom. The excitement over the program is sky high. We’ll see how long it takes to turn them into Servite West.

    • Valley Athletics

      Notre dame graduated Qb and top running back . Alemany got Crespis top running back who originally transfered to Sierra canyon .

  • Magic 8 Ball

    Baseline Predictions:
    1. Upland in a landslide
    2. Glendora – an amazing bounce back year.
    3. Los Osos – Only because Rancho looked terrible in passing league
    4. Rancho – They look very depleted after graduating so many studs.
    5. Etiwanda – Going to take some time for Coach R to convince their athletes to get back out on the field.
    6. Alta Loma – need I say anything?

    • Not So Fast My Friend

      I think with Glendora you’re never quite sure which team is going to show up. Maybe this is the year they become consistent.

      Los Osos, with a new coach in place that I hear is as close to a Matt Bechtel clone as you’re going to get from a defensive minded coach, this season can be very interesting.

      Rancho, I agree. They have questions all over, starting at QB. If he’s settled, they should be ok, but this may end up being an off year for them.

      Etiwanda. No kidding! Talk about a reclamation project!! The HC has a lot of convincing to do. Amazing how that program virtually collapsed in short order.

      Alta Loma can’t wait to get out of the Baseline.

      As for Upland, questions about tampering persist, but that Salter train keeps on running. Until 2014 that is. Then those tracks get crowded with tHe arrival of Chino Hills.

      • Magic 8 Ball

        With the exception of Upland, it’s going to be a down year in the Baseline and Glendora’s biggest opportunity in the last 3 years to do something.

        • Not So Fast My Friend

          Just depends on which Glendora shows up. lol

    • Jastrab

      I just don’t see LO being 3. I thought the lower levels did not do well. Do they have anything coming up? Did the new HC retain the same staff? I believe they have an early test with Bishop Alemany so we should get an early look at LO.

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        I think that Alemany game for LO is going to be a wash. LO doesn’t have the talent level (in my opinion) to compete with Alemany. But it’s football so anything is potentially possible. Actually I think a better nonleague test is Redlands or Norco.

  • Joe Amat

    AT – I have ZERO respect for your “corner of the world” argument and refuse to give it any credibility to it until you put Rio Hondo Prep at #1 and leave them there. Absolutely no way to talk your way out of that one without contradicting things you’ve already written.

    • AramT

      So sorry. As you know, but are failing to remember, I’ve said many times it’s an inexact science ranking teams from different divisions. Head-to-head, corner of the world, all just part of it.

      I wasn’t talking about my rankings, I was talking about the age-old (and tired) argument Amat honks make about “no other SGV team could hang in D-1″ … maybe that’s so, but no other team (except Damien next year) is a D-1 parochial.

      Sorry I had to explain this to you (again).

      • Joe Amat

        inexact science (noun): A discipline the results of which would be useful if they were true but which are not. Age-old (tired) attempt to justify the conflict between what one concludes and what facts demonstrate as true.

        • AramT

          Exactly. That defines it perfectly. Those rankings are not true, because when you get to the part about ranking a lower-division team higher than a upper-division team because of how they’re performing in their own corner of the world as opposed to head-to-head, then it becomes inexact.

          But, I’m never gonna rank, say a 3-7 Glendora ahead of a 9-1 Arroyo despite what I think would happen if they played each other.

          • Not Since 1995

            Aram is 100% correct…!

            Joe AmNOT needs to take off his Lancerito blinders and understand what the man is trying to do with this list…!

            As I have predicted, at the end of the long 2013 losing season and once the 3 – 7 Bishop NoMas Lanceritos do not qualify for the PAC 5 playoffs, Aram will be consistent with logic. The 3 – 7 Lancerito team will be listed higher than an 8 – 2 Duarte…! Or Bassett…or fill in the name…!

            One may be number 24 and the other 25 on the final list, but I would bet my identity and school allegiance if Aram doesn’t have the Lanceritos on this list for the same reason…!
            Joe AmNOT likes only one way…! And we don’t play like that in our lockeroom…

            Not In 2013 either…

    • GP AKA Green Machine

      Joe Amat,

      This is something to look at…If BA was in a lower division, I say they would not be a sure bet to win them every year. How do we know…every Amat Fan says that they send their kids there because they are a Parochial D1 school. If the did not have that status, they would not attract the players that they get. Therefore, they could lose and probably would lose to the rest of the schools you look down upon. BA is geared for Division 1 football. Most schools in our area are not geared towards that. They try to recruit players, but can not openly recruit players like a private school does, and private schools can not hire the type of complete coaching staffs that can be hired at a private school. Especially if they choose to spend $$ on that. BA fans say that the playing field is even…But it’s not.

      • Joe Amat

        GP/GM, Not sure I mentioned Bishop Amat in my post whatsoever.

        And did you really just write about public schools, “They try to recruit players, but can not openly recruit players like a private school”

        Have you been paying attention at all?

        • GP AKA Green Machine

          But you were commenting on the “corner of the world” comment and BA was the basis of the whole Point… By the way…RHP is ranked properly and does not have to be number one for the corner of the world argument. to be valid. RHP Is ranked because they won Cif, and beat a South east playoff team. That’s not supposed to happen. D12 vs D7….

          Public schools try to recruit…as you can see CIF has denied those attempts of Upland and DBar….While on the other hand, i’ve seen schools like Alemany and Oaks Christian in the SGV looking at players. That’s regular practice, however that’s not regular practice for public. These types of things have to be considered in our rankings in the SGV, sense the divisions vary. Now if this was the LA times it would be easier to rank and the corner of the world argument has not validity.

    • Magic 8 Ball

      I think most people would be ok with the “in your corner of the world” argument if the poll was consistently a “in your corner of the world” poll. The problem most people have with the poll is that it is mixed and matched which, in my mind, is apples and oranges. I think a legit poll would be “who do you believe would win head to head” The NCAA doesn’t put out polls that are mixed with D1 and D2 teams. You can’t define the poll as the All in Compassing SGVN Top 25 and then throw in the “in your corner of the world” because the invalidates the whole poll. Have you ever seen a college football poll where Mt. Sac is ranked ahead of USC? Of course not, because people would laugh at it and give it no credibility. Honestly, if you are interested in the “in your corner of the world” poll then all you need to do is look up the CIF Section rankings and that would tell where a team like Rio Hondo Prep ranks in their corner of the world. A true top 25 in the valley is “who would beat who” Joe is right, if your doing a “in your corner of the world” poll Rio Hondo Prep has to be number 1 each and every year with Monrovia coming in just behind.

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        The problem with polls is that…everyone does not play head to head.

  • Not So Fast My Friend

    Aram, just a quick question. I think I pretty much know the answer, but in Payton’s case, since he’s ineligible for the season, that just applies to him going to Upland right? What if transferred into a private school, ie Damien, Bishop Amat, etc. Wouldn’t he be cleared there?

    • observantcat

      Good question, I tend to believe the D11 player would be the D1 Starting running back at these schools.

    • Saints Fan

      Doesn’t matter whether you xfer from public to public, private to public, public to private as long as you are still within CIF you still have to satisfy xfer rules. Example, Scoby last year went from public (you pick which one, CO/Duarte) to St Paul. He was cleared and eligible because of valid change of residence. Something even reminds me that Mater Dei had some issues with a kid who xfered in from Out of State (the subject of a lawsuit also maybe).

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        Ok. Cool.

  • unknow

    la puente beat duarte last season

  • Don’t judge

    Damien will surprise everyone this year. Count on it. 7on7 DOES NOT include linemen, which i hear, Damien has some pretty good linemen. Their “A Team” did finish third in the WestCo linemen competition, and i hear they put up pretty good ompetition(if not, destroyed the team) in all of their 1on1′s against other schools while doing 7on7/11on11 practice with other schools. I especially heard that their linemen tore the Amat linemen up and gave pretty good competition to CIF champs Corona Centennial.

    So Damien will surprise everyone on this blog, and everyone in general this year.

    • AMAT 73

      judge,
      Not knocking Damien in any way but if you don’t have anyone to tote or throw the rock you can have the best linemen in the valley but what good are they going to do . Also if you are going to depend solely on your D-line to stop teams you are in for a long night .. Too soon for even Parades to turn it around , Gano drove that program into the ground and it will take some time to recover .

    • Saints Fan

      I second Amat 73′s response, no one here is disputing the huge improvement in your Lines. But whom are they going to open up holes for? Right now, you have under center a QB who is light years behind your starter last year and we all saw what last years starter was able to accomplish and also has NO significant Friday Night experience. Now if someone has / is transferring in, then ok, whom? Touting the rock is ??? with Friday night experience ???. Whom is going to be on the receiving end of those passes other than #81, your field goal kicker & kick off expert (and I love that kid, he is absolutely a D1 DUDE with his foot and should sit on the sidelines when not kicking because that is his ticket to College and beyond – yes he is that good !).
      Surprise will be if they are able to sustain drives and keep the defense off the field. Your defense is not going to get the kudo’s it deserves next year because those guy’s are going to be spent as I predict them being on the field 75% of the game. just sayin.

    • Kurt Stone

      I saw the linemen competition, and I will say Damien did look pretty good. They were big, but not the most agile. Still, they do deserve props.The problem for Damien is in their skill positions. They looked really bad this summer, and I just can’t see them getting much better. So unfortunately for Damien, the linemen don’t really score a lot of points. I think Damien will be the cellar dweller in the Sierra this year, and then next year when they get moved up to D-1, and have to face Amat, Loyola, Notre Dame, and Serra, Damien will be the cellar dweller for many seasons to come.

  • Stephen Carter

    I am just super curious; WHY O WHY do you all continue to rank Diamond Bar ahead of DRAnch EVERY YEAR? Hold on, for get ranking them above DR, but period?? Is it Cordell and Bell you see??

    • disqus_wD2qThRkJd

      Perhaps because nobody could care less about DR?? Did you think about that?

      • TruTH

        Well Diamond Ranch will have a much better record than Diamond Bar in the Hacienda. Better offensive line, and defense will make a huge difference

        • disqus_wD2qThRkJd

          you seem to be the ONLY one that agrees!! LOL

          • TruTH

            Diamond Ranch has a much better team than Diamond Bar.

          • TruTH

            I’ am sure I am not the only one that thinks this

          • disqus_wD2qThRkJd

            Why are you wasting time trying to prove that to everybody else? Your the ONLY one that needs to believe that..im NOT a DR supporter, will never be!! Take your crying pleas to Aram!!! But if your wrong!…than thats one you!

          • disqus_wD2qThRkJd

            Also , when was the last time DR won a CIF championship???

      • S.Carter

        Funny you should reply annonymously! You care, you took time to respond. And of course you care about a school that kicks your butt every year! Thanks for your input DB stan!

        • disqus_wD2qThRkJd

          I dont need to care! and im NOT trying to be seen and discovered like you are! Unfortunately , football is the ONLY thing you guys good in!

  • big daddy

    I think La Habra and La Mirada are the cream of the crop
    in these rankings. Amat seems to be missing something?
    Now that passing tournaments are over, for the most, we will see what these teams can put together for the REAL season.
    Pass rush
    run game
    etc…

    • Not So Fast My Friend

      Well that begs a question. If La Mirada and La Habra are the “cream of the crop” in these rankings, how does that level with them not being a D1 school? Meaning, how do you think they would fare against schools like Amat, Chino Hills, Glendora, and Charter Oak.

      I’m not being a smart a** by asking. I’m just curious.

      • LM resident

        Your going to find out, LM play Tesoro, La Habra, Servite and St Francis in the pre-season.

        • Not So Fast My Friend

          I saw that. I’m looking forward to seeing how they do.

        • big daddy

          That schedule is diseaving. Tesoro..
          is way down and has a new coach. Servite.. not the team they have had in the past, La Habra will be a lot better this year.

          • LM resident

            But you got to admit, this is a real step up in scheduling for any Div 7 school. Tesoro down years are better than most. Servite not the team they had in the past, but could take care of most anyway. With all the transfers, the La Harbra of old could be back.

          • big daddy

            That is true LM, I GIVE MOSCETTI props for all he is doing, He is a competitor and his kids feed off his positive vibes! I hope they win all BUT
            the LA HABRA game.

      • big daddy

        This year, both LH OR LM would beat all those schools you mentioned, not sure about Chino Hills?

        • big daddy

          also, LH will play.. El Toro, Mission Viejo, and La Mirada in the preseason.

        • AMAT 73

          BD ,
          What do you base your theory on LM beating AMAT this season when they couldn’t do the past 2 seasons . What changed in one year at LM that you feel would cause them to beat AMAT this year. And I know what missing , AMAT from LM’s schedule so now you talk bs because that’s all it is bs talk .

          • big daddy

            Whats missing from Amat?? Lineman and kids from Pasadena. That’s the difference between this year and years past. I do admit, you have a good QB and a couple good LB’S and safety.

          • AMAT 73

            BD,
            Never asked what’s missing , in fact I told you what’s missing . I asked what changed in a year that makes you think now LM can beat AMAT, and like I said besides them not playing .

          • Joe Amat

            73,

            As I wrote above, it’s always that way…but THIS year they’d get us! That’s the way it’s been with all the 2-year contracts in the last 10 yrs or so. Rancho Cucamonga, Charter Oak, Glendora, Diamond Ranch, Damien, St Paul, St Francis, West Covina, and now La Mirada. Swept – but boy if they played us again the next year THAT would have been the year!

            I guess Amat is either really lucky, really smart, or really g…..nah – no one would ever want to admit that!

          • AMAT 73

            JA ,
            Isn’t that always the case . It’s amazine how every team gets so much better after our contact with them is done .

        • WCDan

          Big Daddy, look at the history of La Habra playing Pac 5 or D1 schools,
          it’s not too good, I like both of their chances against Glendora, CH, and CO, on the other hand I would favor Amat over both of them.

    • TruTH

      Amat did play la mirada last year and amat came out on top

      • Joe Amat

        Yeah TruTH…but THIS year they’d get us! That’s the way it’s been with all the 2-year contracts in the last 10 yrs or so. Rancho Cucamonga, Charter Oak, Glendora, Diamond Ranch, Damien, St Paul, St Francis, West Covina, and now La Mirada. Swept – but boy if they played us again the next year THAT would have been the year!

        I guess Amat is either really lucky, really smart, or really g…..nah – no one would ever want to admit that!

  • Not So Fast My Friend

    Amat73, I noticed the first four games of Amat’s schedule are Santa Margarita, Chino Hills, Rancho Cucamonga, and Charter Oak. That’s a tough nonleague schedule! Thoughts? (I already know what “Not since 1995″ thinks about that schedule. lol!)

    • Magic 8 Ball

      This would have been an incredibly tough schedule last year, not so much this year. My prediction is that Amat wins all 4 of these games. SM graduated 11+ D1 kids from last years team and lost a couple starters to MV via transfer, Rancho also lost alot of top players to graduation and this years crop looks night and day compared to last years team. CO I think might be a push on last years team but I’ll take Amat by a TD. CH will be Amat’s toughest challenge. CH is full of talent and a pretty good transfer at QB. I’ll take Amat in a very close game.

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        Damn, I didn’t know SM lost that many kids to graduation. I saw them at a PL about a month ago and they were clicking like a machine. Of course that’s PL, so I left it at that. Still impressive to see though.

        Rancho, I agree. Still athletic, just missing that you’know that, that, hmmm, that thing they need and have had. Experience, stability at QB, I dunno. They are missing something. lol

        The CO vs Amat game, on paper looks intriguing, but I agree with you, the CH vs Amat would be the game to see. Last year was all fireworks and bad officiating. Hopefully the officiating is better. lol

        • Magic 8 Ball

          I don’t know if it’s just me, but high school officiating has been absolutely horrible the last couple of years. Too many old & fat refs that don’t know basic rules and are rarely in the right position to make the correct call.

      • Magic 8 Ball

        I have Amat going 6-0 in the preseason, 2-2 in league play for an overall record of 8-2 and an wildcard spot in the playoffs. The wildcard spot will mean a tough 1st round game vs a top seeded Pac-5 team and most likely an early exit from the playoffs.
        The SM game is very important game and might be the tie-breaker for a Pac-5 wildcard.

    • AMAT 73

      NSFMF,

      Damn tough schedule , but would you expect anything less from AMAT . If from what I’ve seen on the practice field we should come out of it just fine . We blasted Servite out the box last season and look what it did to them the rest of the year , HA HA HA HA . Kidding aside RSM will be a battle and set the tone for the rest of the preseason and season . This is basically what the SGV wants to see from us every year as far as preseason , so they are getting what they want . I think we will do pretty good and looking forward to a string of big games at home this season . I know you’re thinking about the Crespi game and I don’t want to get ahead of myself , but I would pencil in the Alemany as the one to see .

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        Oh, I did forget about Alemany! I’m crossing Crespi off the list. lol

  • Bonita Star

    Bonita, Rowland, and Diamond Bar will be competitive in the Hacienda.
    West Covina and Diamond Ranch still good but has a lot to prove
    Not to sure where to put Los Altos…
    Aram, what makes Los Altos different this year other than the returners? Is it enough to top the Hacienda?

  • Conqueror4Life

    Aram, with the comments from the wide range of readers of what the top 25 should look like, it would be interesting to add a coaches poll as well. I know that you have most or all of the contact info from the HC in the valley. You could even have coaches do this anonymously through Surveymonkey. It is not a secret that coaches read the blog would definitely like to think what their peers think about the job they are doing with their program. If coaches say they do not have time do this is false. All coaches “shoot the breeze” before or after practice and talk about other programs. This would not take much time…make it happen Aram!!!

  • just

    not since 1995 is a clown who never played high school football, never won anything that’s why he’s so bitter with Amat. If you make your life by positng anything about any school over and over that’s a pretty sad life. Regardless of whoever wins it all, as long as the kids graduate and succeed in life that is what really matters.

  • Carlos

    Let’s see whathappens when pads comes on next month.

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