Kurt Scoby update: Grades (check), classes (check), now just waiting on CIF paperwork

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Andrew Hauser (Wake Forest by way of CO) on left, Kurt Scoby (right)

Monrovia began preparations for the 2013 season on Monday morning with its first fall practice and standout running back Kurt Scoby was practicing with the team after fulfilling all the school-issued requirements needed to play for the Wildcats football program.

Scoby’s grades and class requirements are up to speed following some summer school work and now the fate of his senior-year eligibility is up to CIF. Maddox said the program is still in the paperwork process with that but expects to have it sent to CIF soon. Scoby needs Alemany, his previous school before Monrovia, to sign off on his transfer. It’s not expected to be a problem.

After that, CIF will review the case and decide whether Scoby will be eligible for the entire season or whether he’ll have a sit-out period until Oct. 6 or be ineligible.

“His GPA good and we’ll be sending out the transfer paperwork,” Maddox said. “We had to wait because in order to send out the paperwork, he has to be above a 2.0 (Grade Point Average). It’s just a matter of getting all the paperwork in a line and the ducks in a row.”

Monrovia opens the season on Sept. 6 against Ayala. The Wildcats are especially deep at running back and Maddox said that his stable of ball carriers will continue to rotate until more is known about Scoby’s situation.

“It’s completely out of my hands,” Maddox said. “Obviously, we’d love to have him but I’ve got no say. It really depends on what CIF has to say. Right now, they’re all rotating and getting reps. It’s the first day of practice. They’re all good backs. We won’t stop splitting that stuff up until we get a lot deeper in. They’re all good backs.

Scoby last played a varsity game for St. Paul in 2012. Before that, he had a strong sophomore season at Charter Oak. After leaving Charter Oak, Scoby’s had stops at Duarte, St. Paul, Cathedral and Alemany.

  • Not So Fast My Friend

    If Scoby plays against Ayala, it’s going to be game on, then game over. I know Ayala is a prideful bunch, but Scoby is a next level RB and unless they don’t let him out of the locker room, it’s going to be over real quick.

    Before anyone starts that “we can shut him down” nonsense, Monrovia isn’t a one trick pony. They have athletes at every skill position that are more than capable of making plays.

    • OuttaYourMindTrib

      Beating Ayala this year will be no real prize at all. Last year was the year for them to be better than mediocre for the forseeable future.

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        Not looking at it as a prize. Just stating the obvious skill set of Scoby.

        • OuttaYourMindTrib

          Scoby or no Scoby, the outcome would be the same. Our D sucks.

          • Not So Fast My Friend

            They’re that bad??

          • OuttaYourMindTrib

            I caught some action Bonita while I was in the area and the fundamental mistakes I saw are not indicative of a successful season. I know, I know, I know, you can’t put too much emphasis on passing league because there’s no pads, blah, blah, blah, but no matter what, you still want and hope to see good fundamentals and that is the opposite of what I saw.

            At least they have a 3 year starting QB and a 2nd year starting center. I don’t recall a single fumbled snap in the 8 games I saw. If they didn’t have that on Offense… I’d still go to games because they are my team/hobby, but man, I think it’s going to be a rough year. And going into the Baseline next year; Oy vay!!!

    • New York

      The real story against Ayala will be how crisp Monrovia’s offense plays. Will the new QB take a clean snap from center every time and deliver it firmly into the belly of his running backs every time. Will receivers catch open passes. Will we roll up our sleeves and go on silent counts or “on one” and not get too cute in short yardage and goal line situations. Things like that.

      • MonkeyWrench

        Ayala lost a lot of quality playas and a good DC. Expect dem to not be as good as last year.

        • Not So Fast My Friend

          Yep.

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        Of course execution counts. Play sloppy at your own risk. lol

        • New York

          Execution? You mean there is more to winning football games than creating promotional videos, lifting weights, and basking in the sun during passing league? Say it aint so.

          • Not So Fast My Friend

            LOL

          • AMAT 73

            New York,
            Execution , that reminds of an old John Mckay story. While coaching the Bucs , after a game he was asked , ” how about the execution of your team today ” , his reply was ” I’m all for it ” , McKay at his finest .

          • New York

            Those Bucs teams were horrible and far removed from the overwhemingly talented USC teams running Student Body Right and Left.

          • AMAT 73

            New York,
            True but the amazine thing is McKay had them playing for the NFC championship in his 3rd season .

  • reality

    Probably the four most publicized players last year by the Trib, (Scoby, Hull, Peyton, Verdugo) all have a good chance of not seeing the field this season? Anybody see the link???

    • observantcat

      The link will be broken by CIF just waiting on Scoby’s paperwork, as I claimed from the beginning is that Scoby is in a completely different category than the other players who’s former schools are at a disagreement on their players motives. Kurt Scoby will not have any objectors to his release from Alemany as they did not object to 4 other transfers from their program over the past season. Like Maddox stated, Monrovia is prepared for battle in either case and we as fans know what we are capable of as a team. Kurt is definitely a remarkable running back and could carry any team with his athleticism, but Monrovia is a very capable team that could also blend in a team effort that will be as impressive with the players that they have ammased on this team.

      • AMAT 73

        Ocat,
        Scoby is a fine back and a fine addition to an already loaded backfield ,but I think you’re jumping the gun on his ability to carry a team . St Paul went nowhere with him and CO not much further, so that has yet to be seen . Could he carry Monrovia in the “RHL” I believe the answer is yes , but with the stable of backs you guys have it’s not neccessary and not needed . Too bad we never got to see if indeed he could have carried CO or even the slime to the finals or at least the semi’s . Would have loved to see him face the LANCERS this season which would have been in either case .

        • observantcat

          I really believe that everyone that has made some kind of assumptions about the character of Kurt has got him personally all wrong. Sure there are much smarter athletes out there and much more socially balance kids on the field at any given time, but Kurt is generally a class act considering all of the attention that has been tossed at him both negative as well as positive. When I mentioned he could carry any team with his athleticism Let me know where in the country he wouldn’t start at his natural position as running back. It will be up to him and his teammates to determine his role as a leader on the field. He is a true gentleman to hi coaches as well as other adults that he has made contact with. He is just gifted and I hope that gift takes him all the way to the NFL.

        • Jastrab

          Amat 73,

          I am all Amat, but watching Kurt run at us last year made me a true believe that that kid can plan anywhere. I would venture to guess that he could play for any of the top 25 teams in the valley and with a full senior season he would come darn close to 1,000 yards on any of those teams. St. Paul did nothing when he did not have the ball. When he did he had two or three Amat guys on top of him as he gained 5 to 7 yards easy on every play. I hope he plays his senior year and we should all wish him well…He is SGV!

          • AMAT 73

            Jastrab,
            I agree Scoby could play and start for any number of SGV teams . Also never have questioned his character or his ability as a team leader as I have never met or been that close to him to even question it , so I really don’t understand Ocat’s reply. What I do question is the line that Scoby can “carry” any team . Yes he can carry Monrovia in the RHL without a doubt but it really isn’t needed as they have a fine stable of capable backs . He had a solid career at CO but could not carry them nor the slime as they did not even make the playoffs . If someone can carry a team they should at least be able to carry them to a playoff berth . Maybe my definition of carrying a team is different then others but I take it to mean you can ride the player all the way to the top or close to it . I would have liked to see him stay at CO and see just how far he could take that team as last season and this season , he would be the show case as Santiago was gone and to me he was the leader and made that team click . I do hope he plays this season and goes on to college and I hope the administration continues to help him with his studies and attendence for the year and not just to keep him eligible for football season. But imagine what the games with CO would have and be like against us with him in the backfield for CO .

          • observantcat

            Amat 73, my definition of a guy who can carry a team is just that, in the stats category he should have a substantial amount of carries with the yards per touch to go with it at any school on any level. Monrovia has always had those kind of running backs. If Kurt were to attend Bishop Amat and play up to his potential you guys would probably end up in the Semi’s or maybe even the finals with his cast of teammates. It’s doesn’t mean that he would be guaranteed to win all of the games for a team, it just means that with him in the game with the right amount of touches he can insure that your team has the chance to win. Right now Bishop is in a transition with its skill players and this will be a great year for growth amongst some of the younger talent on the team. A kid like Kurt could be of great benefit to a team like that. The RHL is just a name given to a league of teams that circle a geographical area of the San Gabriel Valley so whether he went to St. Francis, Bishop Amat, Alemany, he Could present the same attributes to whichever team used him the right way. Having a great stable of backs at Monrovia only strengthens the offense and any one of these kids could have a breakout game that pushes their pride and confidence through the roof.

          • AMAT 73

            Ocat,
            Well I guess we think it means the same thing . Not too sure he could carry a team in the PAC -5 but that’s a different arguement of which I do not want to start nor get into . I just don’t think we have seen enough of him against top level talent to see if he could carry either Alemany or AMAT or even St Francis as he could not carry the slime in the Mission to make a statement like that . We saw glimpses of it while he was at CO but the Upland game left a bad taste in my mouth on that issue . Either way I wish you guys the best for the upcoming season and hope Scoby plays and has a great season , but we can only imagine what he really could have done at one school and them building the offense around his talents .

          • observantcat

            When you say the PAC 5, Rivals has him in the top 40 in the country #5 in the state, It all depends on the team and their situation. Would you agree that he would help supplement the lack of senior leadership on the Amat squad this season? better yet Darrione Jones would be a big compliment to your squad this season. Team chemistry is everything and by seasons end whichever team has the best balance of chemistry usually plays late in Dec. No matter what league or Div. your’e in. By the way, who in the PAC 5 at running back is carrying their team this season?

          • Joe Amat

            Senior “Leadership”? *Leaders* don’t go to 6 schools in 4 yrs

          • observantcat

            Are you talking about just Football leaders?… Because there are several kids that are in the foster care system that have become leaders in several areas in life starting in High School, and have transferred through several different high schools throughout their careers.

          • New York

            A super leader would be able to lead all 6 schools.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            No man can carry a “team”. I’ll take the 11 verse 1 odds every time. CO’s issue is that they have Inland skills with a South East line. That’s on Both Sides of the Ball. St Paul’s issue was continuity. They Brought a bunch of talent kids together who never played together. If they had those kids 2-3 years, I think they could make a run in the mission league and in that division. If CO had Kurt, they would not have beat Amat last year, for the same reasons they lost to Upland and Rancho. their line is not on that level. I saw the high lights…Amats D played horrible in the st paul game. However…Scoby made some plays. He is a great player. The Bottom Line is Scoby is a fine young man and great talent. Somewhat misguided, but that can happen to any 17 year old kid. He makes Monrovia A lot better. We still have a ways to go in our weight lift, and game planning, but we are improving every year under Maddox. Could we beat BA with Kurt Scoby….Ahhh….me and you would argue this for next 5 days lol.

          • AMAT 73

            GP,
            Not really , no point to argue in my book . ha ha ha ha ha ha . Also I think besides the team that Maddox is improving each year also in his coaching skills .Great program but you guys need to get out of the Mid Valley and start banging in the Southeast .

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            you are so right. I think CIF should change the format. We want out in Football, but the AD won’t leave because our other programs are fine where they are. I wonder will they let monrovia win the midvalley 6 times in a row??? We should win it this season and next for sure. I know in your book Lil ol monrovia would lose handily. I guess everyone see’s that way except for Greenie…But in order to beat BA, CO, and others we need to up our execution,and technique up front.

          • New York

            I’m done discussing hypotheticals, especially regarding playing teams who handily beat teams Monrovia has been losing to. This season I’m just gonna cheer and vent my heart of hearts in private.

          • AMAT 73

            GP,
            Not that I think Monrovia would lose handily in the Southeast , but I would like to see how they stand up to a schedule of solid teams who have talent on the same level or close as Monrovia . It’s a different story in the RHL where basically every week you face teams that are not on par with Monrovia’s talent . But to face say the Hacienda or more than likely Pacific league teams week after week would be a different story , don’t you think ? Playoffs would be a whole new world also . Not saying Monrovia would fall flat on their face but it would be a new and fresh challege and make them step up their game to a higher level due to competition . Maybe you should add dicipline to those 2 things you listed in your last sentence as it seems Monrovia lacks that in some of your preseason losses to a few teams .

          • New York

            Astute observations. No substitute for time on the job as well as level of competition week in and week out. Look at Haggerty’s progression as well, over his entire career as well as just his latest stint at Amat. Good things in the future for both programs.

      • Prep Fan 29

        How is Scoby in a different category? Plain and simple his transfer to Monrovia is athlectically motivated! If CIF clears him to play for Monrovia then they must clear the other who were denied!

        • GP AKA Green Machine

          That’s not True… Plenty of other cases were denied and approved….Every case is different.

          • Prep Fan

            That were athletically motivated? I do not think so! Scoby was looking for a program where he can win a ring! Not one for thier academics program!…I know your hoping that he gets cleared to play GP…It does not look good from a fan stand point!

          • New York

            Is it a verifiable fact that Scoby was looking for a program where he can win a ring?

          • Prep Fan

            Leaving programs instead of staying! There’s your proof!

  • GP AKA Green Machine

    Well, Well Well,
    Looks like we are at the cross roads. It should be known that Scoby is a next level back, but Darion Jones also has next level Ability to go along with a frame for the next level as well. Soph Cameron Johnson and Anthony Marquez also have Division 1 potential.

    I think CIF will clear Scoby. Now if he was at Cathedral, then I think St Paul would challenge because it would be a intra-league Transfer. Besides it was a mess over there, and other players who transferred in with scoby were cleared already. I am sure they don’t care what happens in the Rio Hondo, nor Midvalley, nor Div III State Regional.

    There was no influence, so I think that CIF, is going grant full eligiblity.

    • Swordsman FB

      I know this will sound like a bitter wife, but the truth be told, I am amazed to read in the article that his grades are up to par. Their must have been some serious maneuvers to make that happen. I can only base my comment on the student he was at SP, and that was pretty pathetic. So to know that he then went to Cathedral, then to Alemany, how can anyone keep decent grades when they don’t really participate in their classes. The whole situation revolving around him is a scam and a joke. He is definately a great football player, but also definately not a student. The CIF is a joke.

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        I can’t tell you what his grades are, but i am sure he has been tested. Despite missing school time, the kid is above 2.0 in areas….

        • New York

          In areas? What areas? lol

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            New York…lol…the areas needed be eligible. No??

          • New York

            I still don’t understand. Don’t you need to make good grades in every subject, not just selected courses/areas?

      • Dmindy

        its funny how the same people that talk so bad abo kurt scoby.. would love to have him at there school…lol

        • 1st and goal

          Not really!!!

          • AMAT 73

            1st and Goal,
            Are you ready for some AMAT FOOTBALL !!!!!!!!!!

          • Dmindy

            we all kn amat.. has kn star running backs..lol

          • AMAT 73

            dmindy,
            Run that by me again please . Something got lost in the translation .

          • 1st and goal

            73, She is saying that all she knows is that WE have no STAR running back. He may be no star but he does possess speed and strength. He’s proven that as a freshman and a sophomore. The team is coming along and adjusting nicely. We will be ready.

          • 1st and goal

            But of course. I have been waiting since spring football for the first game to get here. My boy has been waiting for the helmets and pad to come on so he can move up on that depth chart. Ill be getting a spot in the parking lot. Stop by when you see me.

          • AMAT 73

            1st,
            I saw him on the roster . Looking forward to seeing him on the field .Needs to make a name for himself which he is capable of so it’s just a matter of time . I’ll be looking for you out there no doubt about it .

        • Swordsman FB

          Didn’t like the circus last year, and it really divided the team. Scoby is a great running back, but in hind sight I would have not wanted him nor the coach that we had last year. We had one of the worst seasons ever recorded. Off the field he was just as big a distraction. Sometimes having a player like this is just not worth the trouble, and I wish we would have known that before we ran the test and failed miserably.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            That is the main reason why I think SP Will not challenge. Last year was embarrassing for the admins and coaching staff. They totally got away from st paul football. They hired a recruiter, who recruited numerous players. By signing off on Scoby, that would bring closure to last year. It’s the right thing to do. I bet you if St Paul would not have taken him in, Alemany, and Cathedral probably still would not have taken him in and he would have been at Monrovia last year.

    • Ana Kin

      They are all decent backs, but to call them next level athletes is a bit of a stretch…..Jones 5’7″ 160……Johnson 5’6″ 160……Marquez 5’7″150

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        Jones is bigger now and if you see him in person, he is solid…and Johnson and Maquez are soph this season. 2 more season to get to at least 180 or 190lbs…

        • Saints Fan

          Jones is one heck of a running back I will tell you that. Greenie, I’m with you, too many people get caught up when you say Next Level—- He is not a FBS division guy (read Pac 12 / SEC) but that kid sure better be playin next year on Sat cuz he can definitely play — Div I FCS (maybe), Div II Absolutely, Div III Absolutely, NAIA Absolutely — and folks those are ALL Next level.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Jones can play in the WAC. Or MAC or sunbelt…That’s the level I see him on .

          • Dmindy

            the problem with monrovia rb is they never get it rt in the classroom …but our young rb understand that its the key.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Yes, that is true. Just about all of them were D1 material. Johnson and Marquez look to be on the right track. Talented, Good Kids, Great Family Support…I’ll be following them for sure.

      • observantcat

        You are almost right Ana, but you left 1′ and 30 lbs off of jones size, he is bigger than Kurt Scoby and they are about equal in speed.

        • Ana Kin

          I know both kids….Jones is not bigger than Scoby. 5’7″ 160-170 is pretty accurate.

          • observantcat

            I’m going strictly by his physical.

      • Dmindy

        sorry ana! but cameron johnson is 170lbs..as of yesterday..

  • D-Mo

    “Grades, check”. How’s that possible?
    2.0 ain’t real tough IF you are in school. Hmmm.

  • Aaron

    Can’t be next level unless you have a 2.5 really, and that’s becoming tougher to get into the schools of choice, but 3.0s aren’t that tough either in non-advanced (read: regular) classes.

  • MonkeyWrench

    Scoby will be at da next level and you don’t need a 2.5. He be accepted in a majority of the D1 unis under the prop dat aids students with learning disbility. Eevn if you dont have a disability D1 use dis all da time. As for CiF it be a crap shoot and by da way Alemeney don’t release him the school he last play varsity sports do.

    • Not So Fast My Friend

      Point made, but man, you’re killing it with the grammar. lol.

    • Saints Fan

      Interesting, does this special exemption get him out of the NCAA Eligibility Center ?? Normally, with a GPA sitting at 2.0 (and they only use CORE classes not all classes), a student would then have to Score at least a 1010 on the SAT (Math & Verbal only). Daunting task.

      • MonkeyWrench

        Yes ther be exemptins for NCAA clearing house. Each school predetermins how many learning disable students da can take. Some schools are zip but many state level schools do. dont be surprised to see to see him at an FBS.

        • Aaron

          Please show me in the NCAA handbook where a student can be exempted from the NCAA clearinghouse and be admitted to a college based on a learning disability with 2.0? Because, that’s what I call a class action lawsuit waiting to happen. That’s like affirmative action right there.

          • MonkeyWrench

            Aaron, Which one is it? show da proof or you know ULV does it. Such a douche.

          • Saints Fan

            at ULV they are Div III and thus student athletes are NOT required to go through the NCAA Eligibility Center at that level.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            If there is an exemption available at any BCS school, this kid is going to get that, and after the stats he puts up this year and a possible Army All American performance….This kid is going have options.

          • SuperMan_87

            Mikey Zahn. Call u bro. I los u numba dawg. U no hoo dis be.

        • 1st and goal

          So dus dat means dat yous was an exemptins? I be gessin dat yous wasnt becuz yous knods show much. LOL.

          • OuttaYourMindTrib

            Wut youts we tawkin bout?

  • Not So Fast My Friend

    Aram, comment reviewed by Moderator?? Then it disappears? I didn’t say anything negative, curse, or critical. Am I flagged or you flagging who I was responding too? lol

    • AramT

      Lemme check. I wasn’t reviewing anything.

    • AramT

      we seem to have this convo way too often. i haven’t flagged anyone in a while (I guess Stanford Dad couldn’t pay his u-verse bill). This thing sometimes randomly puts comments on hold. If I’m not checking that, which I rarely do, then some comments get stuck in limbo.

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        Ok.
        (cracking up at Stanford Dad comment)

  • Aaron

    So is mine…I NO UNDERSTAND!!!

  • FollowTheRules

    The sad FACT, is that all of Mr. Scoby’s moves last year, as well as ending up Monrovia is and are athletically motivated. If CIF doesn’t stand by their rules, then they must clear every denial ASAP!

  • SGV_FOOTBALL

    Aram, 6 schools in 4 years do you think CIF should make him eligible?

    • AramT

      Yes. I hope he’s eligible and puts on a show.

  • Joe Amat

    AT – the moderation monster is eating comments again. I trust it’s as frustrating for you as us, but IT has to get on it!

    • AMAT 73

      Aram,
      Also one can post and see the post , go about your business and comeback and the post will be gone . I had posted something pertaining to execution and a joke by John McKay to New York and it posted and now it’s gone . Give your IT guy a swift kick and get it fixed .

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        Yeah, I posted something too and it was gone…but I never accused SGV staff….you guys are not scared to blog battle with anyone.

        • AMAT 73

          GP,
          LANCER MENTALITY , It’s in our blood . LOL !!!!

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            LOL….yeah Lancers, Chargers, Bulldogs, Saints and Wildcats are cut throat, but also have short memories with great sense of humor, and Never taking things too personal….Love it!

          • New York

            Speak for yourself. I have a very long memory.

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