West Covina standout Isaiah Love may miss senior season due to neck injury while traveling with Body By Tra team …

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West Covina defensive back Isaiah Love is in danger of missing his senior season after suffering a serious neck/upper back injury during a trip to the Bay Area last weekend for an unofficial college visit.

Love was with Body By Tra, a workout club/7-on7 team owned and operated by Traison Lewis, on what was supposed to be an unofficial visit to Cal and San Jose St., and possibly a performance in last weekend’s Nike Camp in Oakland.

Instead, the van the team was traveling in was involved in an accident that saw several passengers end up hospitalized. Love wound up with a hairline fracture of one of his vertebrae and will be in a neck brace for eight weeks. The first specialist who saw him, according to Bulldogs coach Mike Maggiore, said that Love won’t play his senior season.

News of the accident has not sat well with many area football observers, especially coaches, who are perplexed at how Love could be with Body By Tra on a road trip while his high school team had a competition that same day against Glendora.

“Isaiah should’ve been with us,” Maggiore said. “I don’t like outside influences any more than anybody else does. But at the same time, he was going up to visit colleges.

“I just don’t like how it was handled. Tra rented another van and continued on with the trip while kids were still in the hospital. How it was handled, I don’t agree with. I know it bothered quite a few people.”

Coaches across the Southland have grown increasingly fed up with outside influences from traveling passing teams like Body By Tra. Some have even decided to form their own school-based traveling passing teams rather than have kids play for outside coaches.

Lewis has become an omni-present figure on the local prep football scene thanks to the popularity of his training network and passing team. The team Love is a part of also features Bishop Amat standout recruits Trevon Sidney and Tyler Vaughns, and Charter Oak’s Zion Echols.  All three of those players stayed home last weekend to compete with the their high school teams in the Charter Oak Tournament.

Love, a top corner back prospect, has offers from San Jose St., UNLV, Fresno St. and San Diego St. Maggiore said Oregon St. was prepared to offer this week but after hearing what happened has decided to hold off.

Lewis was contacted for comment about this story last weekend but did not return calls or texts.

 

  • MonkeyWrench

    I be telling you peps about the character of dis guy for 2 years. Da response to my posts was nobody be caring because he be getting kids schollies. He be exploiting kids with skills to get schollies on dare own making kids who can’t get them think it was him so they be paying him a big premium. Dis guy is a bad flower no matter how you be slicing it. Run a background check. I feel sorry if any of deez kids need his insurance. Parents dig deeper on dis.

    • Not Since 1995

      Will someone please proof read this guys post in the future. I get that this is a blog and spelling does not count or as you would say “du naught cownt”, but come on…

      • CIF All the Way

        Regardless of the manner in which he says it, Monky Wrench’s point is spot on and it’s pretty clear to understand what he’s writing.

        • Kennedy Bryant

          TRANSLATION

          I’ve been telling all of you that this guys isn’t a high character guy and based on the lack of responses no one really cared because BtB has been getting kids scholarships. I believe he has been exploiting kids who would have been able to get scholarships on their own. (END OF TRANSLATION

          I dont know the man well enough to offer and opinion on his character however I know players that have played for BtB and are playing with BtB and the parents of the player playing for have done the background check ard are satisfied with him. And me personally I know for a fact that these travel teams yield a great return on your invest if your sons has talent to play at the Div I level

          • reality

            Aha!! How can you possibly know the return on the dollar invested by parents unless you have a financial stake in the enterprise. And if you do your posts are nothing more than salesmanship. In my estimation this type of exploitation is nothing more than telling a pretty girl “Let me make you a star but you have to trust me to do it.” If you want to sell your nephews story to promote this business so be it but to me the business reeks and shills like you make it stink even more.

          • Kennedy Bryant

            Oh I’m not promoting the business Im just stating the facts.. Every circumstance will very and I just know that my personal experience is not what is being portrayed here and its not just my nephew , my son also Mason Bryant played for B2G. So I know far too well the parental investment. My son plays @ UPENN. So please tell me where your son is playing Div I football or are you in here just running your mouth as usual

          • reality

            OKay I’ll bite. If you really are the Dad of this kid then your experience is from several years back. So what was your investment and return. You make a lot of hay about how great it is so please give some facts. Dollars and cents please. How much did you have to pay?Did he get to play at U Penn because of football and B2G. And be ready I know more than you may think.

          • MonkeyWrench

            he playing at UPENN because he be good enough and smart enough. Why did other kids from Scorch not get nothing. Da not good enough. No mystery here.

          • AMAT 73

            KB,
            Doesn’t your son playing at U Penn have just as much, if not more , to do with his brain as his brawn , or maybe even more ???? I don’t think he falls in with the majority of cases folks are posting on , even you have to admit that .

          • Jefe

            AMAT 73, wish I could have responded to your question aimed at me re: the Braves but the damn thread is locked. I don’t know what’s going on with this blog. Bummed if it’s going to be like this during the season. They need to fix things.

            As far as the Braves, I’m very concerned about the QB spot. I’m also not as sold on the DB’s as everyone else is. I think that will be a weak spot again this season. We’ll be loaded at the OL, WR and RB positions like we always are.

            I think Mater Dei will be the hurdle once again this season. I don’t see anyone putting up a real challenge like last season with JSerra having lost quite a bit to graduation.

          • MonkeyWrench

            Da key point be if your son has D1 talent. Deez 7 on guys be exploiting da kids with talent to get da ones who dont to pay big bucks. Da talented ones dont pay. Ask Cosetello how much he paid. Ask the Wesco QB dat transfer to St Paul how much he paid. SCAM CITY.

          • reality

            No matter how cautionary the tale you still have girls boarding buses to Hollywood from Enid, Oklahoma trying to be a star and make the big bucks only to sign with an agent and wind up dancing in the City of Industry. There will always be an unending supply of young men and dads willing to buy magic beans and men itching to take their money. My sense is you have many people out there with a sad story about how they got taken but are to humiliated to tell it. Like the Bernie Madoff story a lot of very smart people including many sports super stars threw caution to the wind and went with Madoff to hit it big and then lost it all.If your kid is good he will be found the old fashioned way. BTW still waiting for some figures Mr. Bryant.

          • Mean Joe Green

            Any talk about high school coaches not knowing anything or unable to get kids into college is simply stupid. College coaches do not visit 7v7 teams (they are not allowed to). They visit high school campuses and talk to high school coaches. Also, any talk about 7v7 being irrelevant and unnecessary is equally stupid. 7v7 is a great way for a kid to continue their postseason training, sharpen their skills and compete with other athletes. However, when its all said and done, what a kid does on Friday night is the only thing that counts.

            Any smart parent will combine the resources of their high school coaches, a good trainer, college camps, a credible 7v7 team and combines.

  • CIF All the Way

    Stay with your high school team! Your high school has coaches who have been cleared by the school and the district. 7 on 7 teams have coaches they could bring in from anywhere. If guys like Tra and others are such great at working with kids and getting them scholarships, then why don’t they have the courage to go out and coach on a real team themselves? These guys get paid way more than the average high school coach and put in a lot less time and have less accountability. College coaches refer to 7 on 7 promoters as “street agents.” It is very sad to hear that Love may miss his senior season and too bad that something like this had to happen in order to shed light on what these 7 on 7 teams really are.

    • AramT

      I was thinking that maybe every HS football program should establish its own cut-off point when it comes to playing with outside 7 on 7 team. Meaning from that date forward, you cannot participate with that team. I would make it May 1.

      Maggiore said he already has that but it’s like June 1. He will consider moving it up in the future. From that point forward a player can only be with his HS team and NOT the outside 7v7 team.

      • Kennedy Bryant

        Some of you have no idea how the recruiting process works today. 90 % of high school coaches today lack the insights to getting kids Div I offers, sad statement but true. Most of the travel teams coaches and trainers have every Div 1 coach and their assistants on speed dial.
        B2G
        BTB
        Team 19
        Frat Boys
        Ground Zero
        have proven since the days of Richard Sherman (2000) that they have the connections and tools to get players the exposure they need to get a Div I scholarship in football. Richard Sherman received his scholarship to Stanford with the Help of B2G, founder Henry Bell. This teams are here to stay.

        • AramT

          Kennedy, the way you put it, these college coaches highly regard what these 7v7 coaches have to say. But I’ve heard other people who say college coaches totally scoff at these guys and view them as pimps.

          I have two words for all of you: Matt Fink.

          Fink NEVER joined a 7v7 team. In a matter of just months he became one of the top QB recruits in the country and committed to USC. He even gave me some quotes about it but I didn’t run them. Maybe I should have.

          • Kennedy Bryant

            And I know personally 20 kids since 2011 that would have never even received a letter from a college let alone an offer. My nephew Victor Bolden out of Los Osos is one of them who has been starting for OSU since he was a freshman. His High school head didn’t even make phone call on Victors behalf. Matt Fink is like Ellis McCarthy are talents that probably would have received a offer with or without, the travel team but there are for more kids getting to play at the next level because of these teams and not due to their high school coaches

          • Kennedy Bryant

            I cant speak for every coach, but I know they respect Henry Bell and Ron Allen from B2G And I know the Respect Keyshawn from Team 19 and I know they also respect Arman Hawkins of Ground Zero. I think when you’ve trained the best corner in the NFL people listen.

          • The truth and nothing but…

            Fink is an exception, not the norm.

          • Fight ON #9

            Kennedy makes a valid point. It is hard to tell a parent that having your son play on a 7 on 7 team is a bad idea when doing so produces results. BBT, B2G, Ground Zero to name a few get these kids media attention that translate into offers. Does every kid that plays get an offer?? No.. But if the kid plays in a low level league playing on in a 7 on 7 team may be his only opportunity to play and get noticed against the top athletes in the region that he would not get at his high school. The old idea of “if he’s good they will find him” is old and outdated. it has been replaced with “Under the Radar”, Rivals, 24/7 Sports and Bleacher Report, all of which on hand for these 7 on 7 tournaments. In addition most high school coaches do not have the relationships necessary to get top programs to even come to see their kids. Matt Fink was brought up as an example. Matt Fink is a great kid and IS a D1 talent, however Matt Fink got noticed at a camp that was not put on by high school coaches, athletes has to pay to attend, the organization that put it on made a profit, and all most of the athletes that attended got out of the deal was a t- shirt. Although Matt is talented, I am not sure that playing for Glendora alone would have got him the SC offer. How is this different from a 7 on 7 team? It seems the “accident” is an opportunity to point a Tra as “the bad guy”. The man runs a business, it seems he is good at what he does. He has 3 All Americans on his team, over 10 players on his team have D1 offers, when 7 on 7 is mentioned his is the first name to come up. If these high school coaches are really fed up with these 7 on 7 leagues eliminate the need. Stop bitchin and start gaining some trust with the parents and athletes that they will do the right thing by them. Beyond Friday Night.

          • AramT

            Fink had offers from Washington and Boise St. BEFORE he ever went to that showcase where his stock blew up. His first two offers came during the season and right after. So no, going to that camp isn’t what got him noticed. It just boosted his stock further.

          • Fight ON #9

            Thank you! You just made my point. BEFORE camp “Boise”(what top athlete doesn’t want to go there). AFTER camp , stock goes up and now he has choices. USC is now in play. Don’t get me wrong , I know at the end of the day your concern is with the athletes in this area. But let’s not rule out that exposure in the off season benefits these athletes that want to play at the next level and go to school after high school. Even some of the best private schools can’t help with that process.

        • Jester

          You are so extremely wrong if you really think that 90% of head coaches lack insight on getting kids d1 offers. By that logic the only way a kid should ever get a offer is by 7v7! That’s just insane…

          Every college coach I have ever spoke to puts a lot more weight into game film then running around in shorts!

          You really think Love couldn’t get a scholarship offer from playing on his HS team? You really think the only way he could get a d1 offer is by playing 7v7?

          • Kennedy Bryant

            Why don’t you look at the numbers of winning high schools that win or have winning programs and have not one kid receive a scholarship. The facts are scholarships are hard to get and most high school coaches are uninformed. There are tons of kids that played well enough to garner a scholarship and didn’t get one. Yes some is due to their own doing (not doing well enough in the class room) but many don’t have coaches that know how the recruiting game is played today.

          • The truth and nothing but…

            Downey and Servite, two good examples. The two players Downey have getting D1 offers, both received them with their 7 on 7 program.

          • Kennedy Bryant

            I’m not saying that at all, by the way tell me how many offers you had to play or your kid had to play in div I. I played div 1 one my sons currently plays in div I and hope to soon have another playing in Div I. I know how the recruiting game is played

          • The truth and nothing but…

            Why do NFL have the Indy combine? Aren’t the players basically just run around in shorts? If it wasn’t for the combine, guys like Byron Jones or Ali Marpet would have never got drafted in the first and third round. Vice Versa, there are players that look good on film but doesn’t look as good live.

        • Valley Athletics

          I agree . Kids have been getting scholarships thru those elite teams you mentioned . Some get them by being active at camps and performing well And having the physical tools are looking for. Some schools like to point out that they are the ones getting kids offers which maybe some are but those are very few . but with All the kids that get offers , there are many who are part of the team who don’t . Those teams have more than one team and that’s alot of money being made .

        • 626

          Interesting. Look, I know EXACTLY how recruiting works…and it isn’t 7-on-7.

          Do Ron and Henry, and other cats like Tra, have an influence on college coaches? Sure they do. Are they able to give a lesser-known player a little exposure? Absolutely. Do college coaches, evaluating players in their war rooms, throw a kids name out to the other coaches at the table and say, “you know B2G speaks highly of this kid, so without any analysis of his game film and without talking to his head coach, let’s go ahead and invest $100k or more on this kid for the next 4 years because Ron and Henry told us this kid was great!?” Fu** no. And you know this Mr. Bryant.

          These dudes are pimps. Period. And btw, they lure the best kids to their teams, and it’s not like they DEVELOP anyone at all. Again, the recruiting website writers get access to these teams and these events, not college coaches. And it’s the writers who create the buzz around a kid. That buzz CAN translate into interest for some players, but college-bound football players are ALREADY college-bound football players…more so from DNA than anything else. Mr. Kennedy, your bloodline had more to do with your success, and your sons success than ANYTHING else. And congrats to you for that!

          Btw, THIS is how recruiting is done…and I don’t hear ANYTHING about a damn 7-on-7 team:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUNDZkWYqjA

        • CIF All the Way

          I was a at a college camp hosted at a high school and all of those street agents you mentioned were there. During water breaks those “coaches” were talking to their players and giving them advice that was the exact opposite of what the college coaches were just coaching. Their lack of professionalism is unbelievable. The coaches from the college had to ask the street agents to move to the stands and they wanted to argue with them. It was embarrassing.

        • Just Coach

          How do coaches lack insight? These guys are doing nothing but hanging on for a hand out. To think that a kid would be offered based on what he did in passing league is ridiculous. Or that travel coaches have more contacts is also crazy. This is nothing more than a money making scheme by guys who don’t have the means to make money any other way. It is no different than travel basketball these guys hope that they get the golden egg and hold every college team hostage until they get paid under the table. These guys might have a bunch of coaches on speed dial but I guarantee no one has them on speed dial. All these guys are is a necessary evil, they aren’t swaying anyone’s decision on a scholarship they prey on talent and attach themselves like a parasite, although I see them more as a child predator. Either way these guys will never replace a high school coach that would require a degree, ethics and just too much hard work!

          • The truth and nothing but…

            Just like Mr. Bryant mentioned at the beginning of his post, most people have no clue how the recruiting process work.

          • Just Coach

            I think 20 years of coaching experience gives me a little room to talk. Again, taking these guys to colleges is great and to say high school coaches are worse because they don’t do that is crazy. We live in the 21 century if a kid is good enough colleges will find him, period, social media is too powerful; There will never be another Fernando Valenzuela who comes out of no where. But more importantly no college coach is going off of the recommendation of some glorified weekend coach. The first question coaches are asking are how are their grades, and more importantly what is their character. I have had hour long phone calls with head coaches about players prior to offering them scholarships, passing league has never come up. The bottom line is that these guys might get a kid exposure a little earlier but they aren’t the reason or a necessity in the scholarship process. Also I would point out that no high school coach is leaving a kid in the hospital, that just sucks. I hope he has insurance, or is incorporated, had all the proper documentation to take the Love kid, and has been declaring the income he has made at the expense of these families thinking he was their ticket to a scholarship. If he doesn’t he is done. Just one final note, if someone is paying you to be a part of their elite passing team then the exchange of money negates the idea that taking them on this trip is some altruistic endeavor.

          • The truth and nothing but…

            You are talking about a 4 or 5 star recruit. For a player with 0, 1, or 2 stars, they are not finding you. College isn’t the NFL, they don’t have the same resources, and even the NFL miss or a player like Tom Brady wouldn’t be drafted in the sixth round.

          • Just Coach

            College football programs have unlimited resources and 0,1,2 star guys aren’t getting scholarships to D1 schools and I doubt they are getting help to go the Colorado school of mines from one of these guys, just doesn’t impress people. Do you even think anyone’s out there making teams out of those types of guys? And Tom Brady why don’t you look at his combine photo, dude looks like a POW, also he ran the slowest 40 of all time by a QB. Who’s taking a chance on him at that time and don’t get me wrong he’s my favorite player. Honestly these guys only care about guys that give them exposure. Again this is the only way they can make a living and still feel relevant. They are in it for the cash and notoriety. What head coach could drive away from a kid in the hospital and still be employed on Monday?

          • truth teller

            I think quite a few of these 7on coaches know quite a bit about the game. Surely some of them know more than, yes, even high school coaches. They have football backgrounds as well. Just because someone coaches at a high school does NOT mean they are a good coach! I have seen kids play in the 7on circuit and improve enough to the point where the following football season, they earned a spot on the field. Judging by the games at the 7on tournaments, the coaching seems to be good. The games are intense and good competition. Besides anything else, I’m gonna give the PARENTS the benefit of the doubt and say that NOBODY cares for their kids like they do and that the parents would NOT allow someone to teach and coach their kids without thinking that individual was going to do their kids any good!! And if I had to vote on who actually puts their best kids on the field, I’d say the 7on coaches do moreso than the high school coach, with all the politics involved in high school football.

    • Don

      The actual reason none of these guys take a “real” coaching job is pretty simple when you think about it.

      1. The pay cut to work as a walk on anywhere but one of the elite privates would be huge.
      2. The credentialing requirements as well as the degree I suspect most of these guys lack would be a deal breaker.
      3. Even if one of these chaps COULD swing a coaching gig at a school that could pay more than a pittance, he’d still have to find something to pay his way during the off-seaso, Better to just operate on your own and let the IRS sort the rest out.

  • reality

    So a kid that has earned a handful of D1 offers is encouraged to travel the country in a van to garner what? more offers? Is it now a game to see how many you can get? Four solid offers is not enough now you need ten? Football is year round at high school now and if you want to excel and work extra time you have coaches that want to help you at most programs. This smacks of taking advantage of inexperienced boys and parents with stars in their eyes and I guess taking their money is the bottom line. Somebody has to pay for these trips and pay the organizers right? I hope this kid has found a good lawyer. Maybe a big lawsuit will shine a bigger light on this guy and any negative impact he has in the area. Thank goodness no one else got hurt worse.I’ll wager at some point he calls his Tra boys his family. well this guy leaves his family member in the hospital while the rest of the family go on their merry way. Very telling.

  • Valley Athletics

    what oaks Christians Jim Benkert said about club 7 on 7 teams at a recent presentation .

    Problems caused by 7 on 7
    1. Kids are influenced to transfer
    By other players , coaches or
    Parents from other teams .
    2. High school coaches have lost
    Their influence .
    3 . Allowing super coaches to train the players causes confusion because they are being taught different terminology and schemes .

    How families are affected;
    1. Financial commitments
    2. Parents believe the high school does not know what he is doing and they pay money to be told what they want to hear.
    3. They have a sense of entitlement and the superstar mentality is created .

  • Kennedy Bryant

    Some of you have know idea how the recruiting process work today. 90 % of high school coaches today lack the credi

  • Kennedy Bryant

    Transfers were happening long before these teams were ever established, High schools lost there influence when they began replacing football coaches with teachers that didn’t know anything about football due to budgetary issues.
    There are only a handful of high school coaches out there today that have the influence and respect that most of these travel coaches have. And the superstar is created because the kid is going against the best players in so cal every week, not against SCRUBS he sees every day in practice.

    And to Aram this is low hanging fruit regarding this situation, this could have happened on the way to the passing tourney in Covina.

    • AramT

      yeah but at least on the way to the passing tourney in Covina you’re doing it to be with your team. That’s sort of the point of all this.

      • Football Life

        It all seems like the story is not about the young man getting hurt but about finding a way to bash BBT and 7v7 teams. I’ve never read bashing of travel ball for soccer, baseball, or basketball and pros such as LeBron participated organizations such as these. What part of the athlete staying on his game and going against higher level competition is wrong? Iron sharpens iron, not to mention that NFL players go to BBT for off season workouts. Obviously, Mr.Lewis is doing something right. Everyone seems to be missing the point of the injury being from an accident. I don’t see high school coaches taking players to visit colleges. Kids get offers but visits still need to be made. If parents can’t make the trip, why should the kid miss out? If it wasn’t for the accident, this would be a whole different story of how Isaiah Love received another offer after his visit to Cal.

        • The truth and nothing but…

          You are right on!

    • CIF All the Way

      I could not disagree with this post anymore. There are some great coaches out there. Most head football coaches who are teachers went into the profession wanting to coach… These 7 on 7 coaches do not emphasize fundamentals and it ends up being all about showmanship. Just watch how deep the linebackers play and the lack of any real scheme at any one of these “showcases.” It was a breath of fresh air seeing actual schemes and fundamentals being taught at the CO tournament a couple of weeks ago except for the Amat receivers holding onto the ball with only 1 hand which would lead to a fumble. And I guarantee Hags didn’t teach that, those boys were getting that from all those Body By Tra tournaments… I would also like to know who some of these real coaches are that you’re refering to. Just because someone played at a high level does not mean they will be a great coach.

      • truth teller

        I was at the CO tourney as well and when I saw the Amat receivers with the ball in 1 hand it was either reaching the ball across the goal line or first down marker or holding the ball away from the defender so that he couldn’t get his hands on it. Something that I saw SEVERAL receivers doing, by the way. Somehow, I don’t see this being an issue when the season starts.
        As for this conversation in general, how is this any different from travel baseball or basketball???? (that question alone should end this conversation) I never see anyone complaining about either of those. I’m sure kids get hurt on those teams! What’s wrong with these 7on kids staying in shape, getting better, getting more experience, working on technique, developing timing and everything else that it offers? Every rep is a good rep! It’s football so they can’t play 11 on 11 in pads. So should the kids just sit and do nothing in the off season? It’s a shame that the conversation went this way because of an accident that could have happened to anybody going anywhere! My prayers go out to Love and his family and I hope he has a full recovery!!

  • Don

    I sense, I sense . . . a new name . . . for the former Body by Tra 7 on 7 team.

    The new name will be, . . . wait on it . . . “Isiah Love Attorney’s 7 on 7 Team.

    Kinda catchy, huh?

  • Don

    On a slightly more serious note:

    You guys DID Know that these “advisor’ types have been around for years, didn’t you? Just as the blog has replaced the neighborhood tavern/coffee shop/donut store/barber shop as the clearing house for prep sports information, the personal coach/life advisor/trainer has replaced ‘that guy’ who has been around since, like, forever.

    In the day, ‘that guy’ may have been a former athlete or a long time kiddie ball coach. He might have been the parent or other
    relative of a teammate or even a coach or teacher from another school. (Usually one that was more regionally successful than your own). The biggest difference is that the guy’s now get paid which gives them immediate credibility. I mean, who among us
    doesn’t subscribe to the old notion that when you get something free, like advice, it’s worth exactly what you paid for
    it?

    The AAU roundball guys and the “elite” baseball organizations have been making a hell of a living doing this for years. Nothing new there, and SOME of them actually are connected at the “next level” but who is to say whether the family who paid thousands for junior’s high dollar “exposure” got their money’s worth or that junior would have done fine anyhow?

  • bulldog mom

    I love this kid as if he were one of my own and it really saddens me that the focus of conversation is 7 on 7 teams vs. high school teams. This was an accident. This could have happened at anytime, anywhere. I thank God everyday that the injuries he sustained were not worse and that he is well on his way to a full recovery.

    • MoreKetchup

      I agree almost 100%, but I still believe it does seem a bit saddening that multiple kids were left in the hospital while this coach continued his tour, but that is a whole separate issue.

  • The truth and nothing but…

    Anyone who says high school players should be with their high school coach 24/7/365 just plain have never played any organized sport. Do NFL players, who gets paid millions of dollars by their teams, stay and train with their teams 24/7/365? The answer is NO! When the season is over, 99% of NFL players return home or else where to workout. Why? It is to get away from the same routine and get a fresh perspective. SJSU, FSU, SDSU, and even OSU are nice but maybe his family valued academics as much as football and besides Stanford, there isn’t another program in the country that can offer both better than Cal. By traveling North with BTB, he gave the Cal coaches the convenient of seeing him perform. If he would have been offered by them, the trip would have been well worth being away from his high school team for one weekend. Hind sight is always 20/20.

    • reality

      No one on here said that a kid should be with his high school coach 24/7. Players get away but they do not align themselves with other teams and coaches. To me that can be counter-productive to team chemistry. Training and fitness coaches can be an asset and often inexpensive if you don’t like your teams strength coach that most teams have today.. Most players stay connected to their teammates year round and work out together away and at the school. I see these 7 on 7 teams as more of an exercise in ego building for the players and yes the agents. Hind sight is 20/20 but the accident aside why have so many been so suspicious and critical of these 7 on 7 teams?

      • The truth and nothing but…

        First of all, not all players are capable of being on an elite 7 on 7 team. It is by invitation only, not daddy ball. Second, the elite players align themselves with a program like BTB because the organization provides a year round service for the players to get better and stay in tip top football shape that the school can’t provide. Lastly, coaches complain because just like this article suggested, once in a while, BTB will take a kid for a weekend to visit college coaches (another service the school doesn’t provide) that may conflict with the high school team schedule. I have seen organizations like BTB doing right by the kids and giving them every opportunity to get a free college education. What is wrong with that?

        • Eric

          The problem with your point is that all the “Elite” players that BTB claims to have, all have offers from there hihg school. I would venture that the whole point of an organization like BTB is to take the kids that are the middle of the road and increase there strength and skills to get them to be an asset by any college, not just the top schools.
          It is garbage that BTB only takes the elite athletes. So why are tehy taing all the other suckers that are paying for training and they are only focusing on the stars?
          Programs like Winners Circle, TNT, Rharebreed actually take kids that are not the TOP TALENT and can increse there skills and ability and get them offers…not from the UCLA or Michigan, but colleges like UNLV, San Jose State, New Mexico State, Boise….if they are Elite they do not need 7v7, there high schools will deal with them.
          Take a kid and develop them inot a better player shows the coaches talent, not taking a showcase kid and adding to there squad just so they can say they have these guys…..

  • The truth and nothing but…

    You contradicted yourself way too much. If guys like Ron, Henry, Tra, D’Vah, etc. have the ears of college coaches and their opinions matter, than obviously it helps to get a player recruited. How are they pimps? No one is held against their will, players and families can leave and have the freedom to take whatever route they choose anytime.

    • truth teller

      Well said!!

  • Pete
  • reality

    I have not read a response from Mr. Bryant about his comment on the very good return a kid gets on his investment from 7on 7 coaching. So I ask anyone, “How much is a typical kid expected to pay? and are the elite players attracted only because they get a free ride plus expenses.? Playing alongside an elite player can make such teams more attractive to a kid.

  • Mean Joe Green

    I believe that this should have been two separate stories. The Love incident is a tragic incident that deserves its own separate coverage. The issue of Body by Tra and 7v7 teams is a whole different issue entirely. This young man could have gotten hurt walking to a liquor store for candy. However, that would not be the time to discuss the issue of alcoholism in America. So I am going to refrain from making any connections between Love and his injuries to the 7v7 phenomena. I do have several personal opinions and experiences in the matter.

    While my son was in high school, I scrambled to get him exposure. We did all of the circuit camps, all of the combines, the Army All-American Combine and he played with B2G and other 7v7 teams. We spent thousands of dollars to train him and to get him noticed. We had to do this because during his junior year, his team was primarily running the ball. So although, he was 100% in completions, he had limited film. My son walked into his senior year with interest from over 20 colleges. This was all because of his post season efforts. Camps and combines were the number one reason for his college interests. The most exposure he received was actually not from 7v7 but was from actual college camps. However, his high school position coach was the one who was responsible for many of those connections and camps.

    My son went D1 with limited film, and great exposure. However, his exposure was from his high school coach and his trainers. So, I don’t think its an either/or situation. Post season efforts do not have to exclude your high school. CIF allows any freshman to attend any school of his choosing. It is up to the parents to find the high school that is going to support his college aspirations. We heard of a small division school that had a great reputation for sending kids to college on scholarship so that is where we went. It is important that your child goes to a school that is going to support his academic and athletic aspirations and also provide them with post season guidance (which may include 7v7). This is not 7v7 versus high schools or Traison Lewis versus my high school coach. This is about using all the tools afforded to your child to get them into college.

    • AramT

      They are ABSOLUTELY one story. People saying “he could have gotten hurt driving to Disneyland” is garbage.

      The fact is his team was playing in a passing competition vs. Glendora while he was driving to a unofficial visit with Body By Tra.

      If it was him getting injured in a accident driving to the mini-mart on a Sunday morning. Then yeah, that’s bad luck.

      If it was him getting injured in a accident while driving to a West Covina passing game, then that’s bad luck, too.

      But Love decided to not be with his team and while traveling with Body By Tra was in a accident.

      Can you understand that it sits wrong with people that the kid was hurt while shunning his team to be with Body By Tra instead?

      • Don

        Sorry Aram, hard for me to be so blithe about a
        van load of teenagers out driving around no matter whether they are out for a slurpee or going to a 7 on 7. Who’s driving? Is he trained? Do you have a DMV on him? Is he insured? ? How long are you gone? What is he driving? All completely different issues than the ‘trainer” related stuff or the “exposure” issue or even whether being associated with one of these teams does a player any good but things I would need addressed before I’d even consider letting one of my kids take off with someone, especially overnight.

        And yeah, I get that an accident can happen anywhere but taking six hour van rides to tour college campuses is a damn sight different than heading over to the corner for a corn dog.

      • Mean Joe Green

        I am still not connecting the dots. Plenty of kids do not participate in their team activities because they are on college trips. Most of the time it’s with their parents. Unfortunately, some kids neither have the resources nor the ability to have their parents travel with them. If a trainer can substitute for a parent who cannot take off work, or cannot afford to travel then who cares. Ask any high school coach about the practices and 7v7 tourneys that are missed by kids visiting colleges.

        I don’t know this guy Tra, so I can’t speak to his character. However, I think the ditching-the-kid-at the-hospital thing is the bigger story. He should have stuck by the kids side, and flown some other guy up to take the remaining kids to the visit. That story about Love missing his team’s tourney is no big deal. It happens all the time.

      • The truth and nothing but…

        Hence, you have another reason why a player and his family would want to transfer. How many unofficial visits has BTB taken players to? How many accidents has those trips been involved in? This was an accident! You don’t just stroll into Cal, sign in, and go to class! There is a reason they are a top 10 academic school in the country. If his high school coach doesn’t understand why he would skip a weekend with the team playing what, 7 on 7, in front of no college recruiters, for a chance to attend Cal than maybe he shouldn’t be at WC. Just saying…

        • JustaFan

          Must I state the obvious? This was an UNOFFICIAL trip which means it can be scheduled for any time. The fact that that this clown…I mean “coach”…would abandon a group of young men who’s parents have entrusted him with their lives in order to complete an unofficial visit boggles my mind. Not for a second, do I believe that body by tra is “about the kids.” This is about 1 guy doing everything he can to make a living and stay relevant in the college football scene. Shoot, anyone fool can go around and poach the top talent and be a good 7 on 7 team. That means nothing.

          • The truth and nothing but…

            Talk about the obvious: “This is about 1 guy doing everything he can to make a living and stay relevant in the college football scene…” Please don’t tell us you are jobless. If you got a job, isn’t it a good thing to stay relevant? “…Shoot, anyone fool can go around and poach the top talent and be a good 7 on 7 team.” Really? Why don’t you try it!

          • JustaFan

            Defensive are we? You must be one of those poor suckers forking over your money to this guy in hopes of your son getting a scholarship. Let me ask you, yes or no, do you think his actions in this case are justified? It’s a simple question. Now, let me add a few things to this conversation. In the grand scheme of things 7 on 7 means very little. What it provides is an opportunity for guys to compete year around but it is not a good indicator of how good someone is and rest assured that college coaches are not offering kids because of what they’ve seen at a 7 on 7 tournament. If that were the case then my old college roommate would be taring it up in the Pac-12 based off of how he performs in the 7 on 7 huntington beach co-ed city league. Coaches want to see kids block, tackle, use their hands effectively, turn their hips, move their feet, and see where their eyes are pre and post snap. You can’t get that playing 7 on 7. You want to boost your stock? Go to college camps! You’ll spend less money, get better coaching, meet REAL coaches and actually learn a few things that will make you better in the process.

        • MoreKetchup

          Believe me when I say that Love gets offers from schools of Cal caliber and higher even if he abandoned BBT and stuck with West Covina, getting the chance to face schools like St. Francis and Tesoro this season. Quevedo got his offer from Cal by performing well, Love surely could have as well, and better.

  • Jerry McGuire

    It was just a matter of time before something like this happened. I will give BBT the benefit of the doubt that this was a bad accident, and the authorities/attorneys will be the determining factor on that one. If the insurance and the company wasn’t set up properly, then it going to be a long expense road for this guy…
    BUT as “Just Coach” pointed out to leave a kid behind really speaks volumes about the man. If he really does have speed dial, the first call should have been, “a bad car accident happened and we need to CANCEL”. A one time visit or tourney isn’t going to be the deciding factor on any kid.
    Needless to say, if I am investing thousands of dollars on a kid, I calling his high school or college coach first, not some fly by the night trainer. Guys like this are a dime a dozen and are preying off families who think a guy like this is going to get your kid a ride.
    Bottom line, its PROJECTED talent, grades, character, team support, family support that matters in the real world. Travel teams are good for extra reps, but are not a measurement for a scholarship. Its a way for non-qualified, non-certified, non-credential guys earn a buck…

  • JustaFan

    The lack of common sense around here is astonishing. The fact that there are people on here suggesting that high school coaches “don’t have the knowledge to get kids D1 scholarships” is flat out moronic. Let’s use Coach Maggiore as an exhibit A. He has only helped kids play at Oregon, Oregon St, Washington and multiple other D1 schools. Not to mention that guy named Walter Thurmond that plays in the NFL. Yeah, he must not know anything. What is absolutely disgusting about this whole situation is that a young man was sold a load of BS by a man who, when the van he was driving was involved in a crash and kids were hospitalized, decided to leave them behind and carry on with his weekend. Some coach and role model that is. What a joke!

    • Jerry McGuire

      I could not agree with you more and I posted my thoughts earlier.
      Lets also talk about exhibit B … Big Lou
      Lets also talk about exhibit C … Bogan
      Lets also talk about exhibit D…. All the Amat coaches of past
      The list could go on and on…
      Its beyond moronic that any real man leaves a kid(s) after such an event. The lawyers will sort it out!

    • Damon Griffin

      JustaFan, that information is absolutely false that Tra left Love behind. Tra flew players back home out of his own pocket to make sure they got back home safe. He only took the student-athlete that were healthy to unofficial visit to Cal. Then the next day took the student-athletes to the Oakland Nike regional. No one was left, if anything Tra went above and behind to make sure everyone was okay. There is no quote or information from anyone that was actually there

      • Bulldog Boy

        Not completely true…..I was in the room with Isaiah at the hospital……..I dont remember you being there! Now ..Isaiah is in a full neck brace..in his bed. The article is…….about him..right?

        • reality

          You make is sound like digging in his pocket to get his broken boys home was some kind of heroic action. What choice did he have? Leave them in the hospital with a bunch of unpaid bills.It must have been a circus over there. At any rate the SVN asked Tra for comment and so far nada. Why? Who was driving? What happened in the wreck.Where was the wreck. What happened after the wreck.A good and guiltless business man should want to do some damage control to try and clear the air of negativity when a child is seriously injured.

          • Bulldog Boy

            you replied to me ? Did you read my post????? How did I make it sound like digging in his pocket was a heroic action? You must be replying to damon griffin

          • The truth and nothing but…

            Comprehension? Why would Love need to be fly home? Was he going to take a plane from Arcadia to WC?

        • Damon Griffin

          Bulldog Boy, I wasn’t in the Hospital, I was in Oakland on Sunday. But I did hear from all the players, Tra, and other people that were on the van. Bulldog boy, yes this is article was about Isiah getting hurt, but people decided to start slandering Tra and the article made it seem he did nothing and that’s not true!! Are you going to tell me he didn’t spend thousands to fly people home. Please tell me where my facts are wrong?

      • JustaFan

        I agree with you. He DID only take the healthy ones on the unofficial visit…..and left the unhealthy ones at the hospital.

  • http://batman-news.com Jedi Knight

    I wish Isaiah a speedy and full recovery. He is a very talented athlete that could easily play in D1. The first thing is to make sure he is fully reovered before trying to continue his football career. I pray that he will have the right people around him that will make sure this happens and not try to force him into returning too early. Best of luck Isaiah!!

  • reality

    If anything good comes out of this it maybe that it just shines a light on programs that take young boys of I assume 14,15 and 16 years of age and supervises their football futures. Parent will make sure the programs have the proper insurances and guarantees that should come with it. Any van loaded with young boys going on a long road trip has trouble written all over it. Even if it is going to a religious retreat. So maybe parents will take a harder look at this stuff. That is quite a responsibility and requires quality vetted staff at all levels.The result maybe that parents will now take a more careful and hard look at these type of programs and yes their high school program as well. I don’t see these 7 on 7 programs co-existing comfortably with the high school programs as of today. Like many have said before me there are no shortcuts to success. It can be a slow step by step process.

    • Mean Joe Green

      Very well said! 7v7 should not be used as a tool for exposure, but for continued training and competition. The exposure piece is the bait that is being used by some of these programs to lure parents to pay for the travel and accommodations of other kids they are showcasing. Some of these teame are like a ponzi scheme where the bottom pays for the benefits of the top. Most of the kids showcased on 7v7 teams had plenty of offers before they joined. Its like shining a light on a beautiful woman and the light taking credit for her beauty.

      • Eric

        Perfect analogy Joe!

      • Desert Rat

        Training yes…but it is no good if a player is not with his high school team learning their system….throwing within their system, their 7-on…not a fantasy 7-on all-star team coached by those outside the program.

        The kids need to understand how their plays work, how their reads and check downs work against various coverages. Thats when its beneficial. Not plays drawn in the sand that have no relevance in the bigger picture.

        • Mean Joe Green

          There are periods of time when high school coaches cannot train their athletes. There are also periods of time that college coaches cannot speak with athletes. NCAA and CIF outline these calendars. 7v7 can be a useful tool so long as the timing coincides with the dead periods of high school coaches. The problem is that no one is working with the other to figure this all out. There are plenty of high schools that have their own 7v7 team that is managed by outside trainers, but consists of only the high school students. This is an easy fix. Instead of everyone throwing darts at each other, if a coach is so concerned about losing kids to 7v7 he needs to take the time out to coordinate something for his players during the dead period that will teach them his own offensive and defensive schemes.

          • Desert Rat

            Dude….not much is going to be lost during dead period. We’re talking 3 weeks, not 3 months.

            And yes, HS coaches can take a greater role. I know many schools working in early spring. Some in February!!!

          • Mean Joe Green

            I am not talking about the summer dead period. Each school has the ability to schedule their spring practice. Most kids who are participating in track and field (which is a lot of football players) are not required to participate in spring practice. Therefore, this is a great opportunity for coaches to work with the 7v7 circuit. My son actually opted to play on his school’s 7v7 team rather than play track and field. The 7v7 did not interfere with spring practice in any way. If this is so important to HS coaches, they can simply work with their school principal to organize the practices to include 7v7 participation. 7v7 is not going anywhere anytime soon. So you either be one of those relics who continue to whine about it, or you can figure out a way to make it work for you. If you can’t beat them, join them.

          • Desert Rat

            I don’t have a problem with 7-on….enjoy it. Don’t like these scam artists frontin as “Gurus.”

            When the grass is cut…the snakes will show.

          • Nomoredrama

            Perfectly stated! And, no matter how simply and clearly stated, this argument will go on, and on. I admit I am biased, my kid got her scholarship because of her batting coach guiding her on the steps necessary to get her name out there. She assisted in making her recruiting video and made the contact phone calls to college coaches she had a rapport with. Even though she made All CIF, All Valle Vista League and the Tribunes All San Gabriel Valley Team, not one connection was made from high school ball.
            I know football is a completely different beast from softball, but, the choice of personal training is the same….it’s whatever the student/parents chooses to do, it’s their choice and the consequences be them good or bad belong to them.
            May this young man have a complete and speedy recovery!

  • Desert Rat

    Funny how I remember Aram singing this guys prasises about a year ago. I hate to remind you, but I told you so. Trasion and the rest of these clowns aren’t in it for the kids; they’re in it for the money and their own glory. 99.7% of college programs do not want these guys around and don’t want to deal with them. While they will take an opportunity to see a prospect if he shows up for an unofficial visit, they don’t want to hear what a trainer/7-on coach – who’s financially motivated to rep a client – has to say. The college programs want to deal with the head coach at their high school. Sure, not every coach is savvy as the next, but they know how to network and market their players….because the college recruiters come to the schools, not BBT’s gym.

    Besides the illegal recruiting – at the high school – these clowns are predators. And it baffles me that people are so nieve to fall for these guys garbage. In the same breath, I don’t mind a kid wanting to get better. No problem. The problem I have, is the exploitation – especially by black men on the black community – of the kids. Meaning, they exploit the stars in order to cash in on the masses, most of whom will never make it. Call me crazy, but to me that’s criminal.

    The other problem I have, which Aram has brought up, is the interferance. These kids need to be with their programs and teammates when they hold court. They should not be out with these clowns doing activities that are not condusive to preparing themselves for their upcoming season. Not only does it interfere with the high school program, but it messes with the chemisrty. The other kids see what divas some of their teammates become and it tends to drive a divide between the kids. On one hand, you have the core group together and the coaching staff talking about trust, a brotherhood and selflessness and on the other, you have the other kids following their 7-on coach around, who is pumping crap to their ego and developing selfish individuals.

    Bottom line….let me reiterate that no matter how much these clowns say their doing it for their kids….THEY’RE ALL ABOUT THEMSELVES. I mean if leaving your kids in a hospital and taking off to continue that trip isn’t evidence enough, then I don’t know what is. You can disagree, but I will continue to say to avoid these guys at all costs.

    • JustaFan

      Finally! Someone who knows what they’re talking about!

    • Eric

      I tottally agree with your point that this SCUMBAG left the kids in the hospital to continue the weekend…disgusting! I hope the parents open there eyes to what type of person is running that organization.
      BUT, not all these guys that are running the 7’s are like that. After you weed through the BS that these guys unload on you, the proof is in the reality of what is happening.
      My son needs the extra attention. He is not going to be recruited by any top Division I school, but through the hard work, off season dedication to his own improvement, he is starting to get some looks. His dram is to play in college.My dream is for him to have the opportunity to attend college, something I never got to do.
      BUT back to all the BS that these guys try to fill the kids heads…my son has caught every coach and trainer in a out and out lie, bending of the truth. ALL OF THEM including his high school coach. My son has been taught to understand that you only believe half of what you hear and half of what you see.
      It is the parents responsibility to take the time and edcuate and make informed decisions TOGETHER with your kids and to extract the good from it and leave all the other crap behind.
      Besides, it is only the kids that believe an organization like BBT actually got there “stars” scholarships. And the parents that think that this “club” is teaching anything is just being fooled and wasting there money and time.
      Do your research and weed out these scumbags and, if you truly want an opportunity, take your kid to someone that is the least dispicable, because all of them are, including the high school coaches (unless your kids a star already).
      Just remember that its your kids opportunity, not yours. Be real and straight with them.

    • Just Coach

      SPOT ON!

    • Damon Griffin

      Desert Rat, what do you do for a living and your credentials? Because you are grouping all groups into one, which is not fair. Most of your statements are false and very inaccurate. You are clearly speaking on your opinion, which is your right. And clearly you just don’t like Tra, which is fine as well. But what facts do you have that Tra has taken advantage of student-athletes? Not what you have heard but have actually experienced? Give names!! If you are going to slander someone you better have a reason why, or the only one that is BS is you. I’m not saying you haven’t experience a situation with Tra, so I give you the opportunity to back it up.

    • The truth and nothing but…

      You obviously don’t know Tra and know nothing about BTB so you are just piling on.

  • http://bishopamat.org/ Joe Amat

    As Don stated, this has been going on for years with basketball, then baseball, and now football guys have found a way to slither into the cracks. For someone who wrote earlier, “no one complains about those”, read Raw Recruits, Sole Influence, and Play Their Hearts Out. They’ve been complaining for years. Now their are complaints about travel baseball and overuse, so those books are on their way, I’m sure.

    Amat being in the old in the Angelus League saw this up close, as the basketball thing swirled around Mater Dei with the arrival of Gary McNight and their travel ball guy Pat Barrett, who was called in one of those books, “the biggest whore he’s ever met” , by Jerry Tarkanian (and he worked in Vegas, so he’s probably met a bunch)

    So without needing to pass judgement, the real issue is leaving a kid behind in the hospital. That shows poor judgment at the low end and self serving negligence at the other. No need to judge – the actions speaks for itself – and screams it loudly about a guys thought process and where he rests on the Tarkanian Scale. Also, to say high school guys don’t understand the recruiting process is ridiculous, period.

    The evolution of this in both those sports has been rolling the off-season/travel experience into the high school programs. Football programs that embrace this by either having a staff member run it, or aligning themselves with a current guy, will be the ones who minimize the impact of the 7on7 guys. Unfortunately, as in baseball or basketball, you won’t eliminate it because a sucker is born every minute.

    And does any one find it ironic that Zion Echols chose to not go on the trip, stay home with his team – and he picked up an offer/committed to Cal?

    • Jerry McGuire

      Could not agree more with “leaving a kid”. I really don’t care if the doctors said he’s stable, or family showed up. You just don’t leave and travel and additional 500+ miles and carry on your weekend. For what? No one event makes an athlete…Period…
      No problem with athletes getting extra work, but team always comes first. This day and age of “ME” or “I” is way out of hand.
      But the legal issue will be the SHARP attorney having the insurance company pay out. Look out on renewal time, if you don’t get dropped. Someone always pays in the end..

  • Damon Griffin

    Aram with all do respect your article is very false. Tra was helping student athlete out of his own pocket to take student-athletes for an unofficial visit to the Cal campus. No question it was an unfortunate accident, but once again Tra took responsibility and paid out of his own pocket and flew student-athletes back home. This article paints a negative picture of someone trying to do something positive. I see you didn’t get a quote from Isiah Love, his mother Christina, or anyone that was actually at the accident. You have no actual source of information other than what someone heard. If more high school coaches were doing half of what Tra is doing, there wouldn’t be any increasingly fed up coaches.

    • Bulldog Boy

      Paid out of his own pocket ? The guy charges $25 for two hours of work …..100 kids show up on a Sat…..that’s $2500 ….whos paying…parents…!!!! Yes he caters to the big name players ( who are already getting looks any way ) All the biggest named players in the area and bbt cant win a tournament……except with their B team! What does bbt do with the players that are on the fence that have given thousands of dollars to his fat pocket……answer that?

    • Desert Rat

      Grif….if Tra REALLY cared, he’d stop selling pipe dreams and start taking kids to FCS, D2, D3 and NAIA schools.

      Regardless, theres a big misconception out there that kids have to visit these schools. Not true. If they can visit, fine. If they can take in a summer camp, even better. They don’t need to be at every darn school everyother weekend…especially with their 7-on coach. The college coaches will inform the high school coaches if they feel they need a kid up earlier than an official visit….if thats even a possibility.

      You should know that each college program handles recruiting based off preferences. What I haven’t heard is every coach telling me my kids have to get up to campus asap.

      • Damon Griffin

        Desert Rat, in what way does he sell pipe dreams? He provides a service to train student-athletes.Its about getting student-athletes prepared to compete at a high level. I have never heard Tra say if you train with me you are getting a D1 scholarship. Again my name is Damon Griffn, I went to Monrovia HS. My resume I’m an All-Pac 10 WR from the Oregon Ducks, played 4 years in the NFL, coached two years as a GA at Boise State from 09-11. I’m the current lead WR coach for Nike, have my masters in the Sports Management, and write for 247 Sports. This is what I do for a living not part time. Visiting schools is a huge motivation to spark interest to student -athletes. Coach Chris Peterson biggest thing was to see if a student athlete would visit our university to tell us coaches how serious they were about our university. Just to let you know I helped coordinate the visit to Cal, and only a few players were top D1 prospects, 12 other players were no name players or underclassmen. Two of those unknown names- one in Sam Maughan from Oregon City high school is now getting recruited by Cal, when he wasnt before. To say University coaches will contact HS coaches is not always true. Like you said every university is different in their preference in recruiting. I will tell you first hand numerous Universities contact Tra for information and it isn’t always about the top players. A player Jacob Girgle that has been with Tra through HS and Junior College just recently signed with New Mexico. What is you name Desert Rat and who did Tra sell pipe dreams to? You talk a lot about what you have heard, respectfully would love to hear actual facts. He didn’t charge anyone to travel to Berkeley he did that out of his own pocket. It was Love’s decision to travel, Tra didn’t force him or make him do anything. It was an accident!!! If you are going to attack a mans integrity, make sure you back it up with information and credentials to back it up.

      • The truth and nothing but…

        You sound like a man in a program who don’t know how to market his players talking. Don’t tell me, “if you good colleges will find you.” That would be the biggest pipe dream!

    • AramT

      As I wrote, I called and text Tra offering him FIRST SHOT at explaining the situation or giving his side. He never returned the call or text. And tell me what part of the story is inaccurate. I’d like to know.

      • Damon Griffin

        Aram, yes this is Damon Griffin from Monrovia HS. All due respect again, your article is clearly a one sided perception of Tra rather than the true issue of Isiah Love unfortunately getting hurt. Tra didn’t make Love go to Oakland, it was his decision. He wanted to compete in the regional’s to earn an opportunity into the Nike Opening like David Long. In addition I know for a fact that University of Cal coaches were excited to see Love, because I help coordinate other players to be there as well. Coach Maggiore statement of Tra ” Tra rented another van and continued on with the trip while kids were still in the hospital.” Is clearly false! I talked to Tra Saturday night and saw him on Sunday, and he was clearly disturbed by the events that occurred. Tra did go to the hospital but he was also responsible for numerous people on the trip. He paid thousands of dollars out of his own pocket, to get certain student-athletes home right away and gave the option to others to stay if they wanted to. Tra’s only intention out of this trip was doing something positive out of his heart. No question it was unfortunate. Again to answer your question you received a statement from someone that wasn’t there, which makes it inaccurate. The reason why student-athletes like Vaughn and Sydney stayed home was because they are already invited to the Opening and didn’t have to compete in the Oakland regional. Please let me know if you would like talk.

        • AramT

          Damon, great to hear from you.

          You gotta give me specifics in the article that were biased or one-sided. All I see is pure reporting of what I was told by the kid’s coach. If Maggiore says he’s disappointed by certain aspects of what took place, then that’s him saying it, not me. Tra was the first person I called/text. I understand if he doesn’t want to talk publicly, but he was given the opportunity. I have no doubt Tra’s heart was in the right place. My only problem is a kid not being with his team for a competition. Let alone a competition vs. a USC-bound QB like they have at Glendora.

          • Shalva_24

            A single text message saying:”Tra, hearing you guys got in a serious accident on way to tourney up north. Is that true? Everyone ok?” hardly constitutes diligent reporting or fact seeking. Tra received dozens of messages to the same effect on Saturday. Hopefully the readers of this post can see how this may NOT have been interpreted as a reporter seeking confirmation of details and an attributable quote for an article.

            If you were genuinely interested in Isaiah being injured, why not contact the kid or his mom in the week that passed between the accident and you clicking “post” on the 23rd? You cover his school. Surely you have the means to contact him or the ability to find him via social media. Perhaps I am foolish for thinking that people have a legitimate right to
            privacy when it comes to medical diagnoses and prognoses. If there
            were any comment to be made about Isaiah or the “several
            others hospitalized” it should never have come from Tra, especially considering that Isaiah is a minor.

            If you thought Tra had facts pertinent and worth reporting, and felt he was avoiding you – as is indicated in the way that you close the story – why not walk into his gym and ask about it? That’s what reporters do, right? Tra owns a brick and mortar business. Any of you are free to walk in at any point in time! The address is no secret. Google it.

            Perhaps next time you should phrase the single text you send inquiring about information this way: “I’m writing an article to slam you for taking this kid to Oakland when I think he should have been at home with his team, do you have anything to say about that?” Maybe that would have garnered the response you were looking for.

            It seems that a major point of contention for you, Aram, and those who are commenting is that Isaiah should have been with his high school for a game against Glendora. Isaiah was not the only West Covina player headed to Oakland, in fact at least THREE other West Covina players – KIDS ENTIRELY UNRELATED TO TRA – participated in the Nike event. (And, it is entirely possible that there could have been MORE than 3, as data is only included for athletes who tested in the 40, Shuttle, Power ball throw, verticle jump, etc., and you can participate in the event without the testing component.) You can verify this yourself in literally 3 seconds by google-ing “nike oakland regional results”

            Does it matter to YOU how, with whom, or why these kids chose to travel to Oakland as well? Have you sought them out to make them feel bad for wanting to compete for a spot at The Opening?

            You also chose to point out that Vaughns, Sidney, and Echols did not go to Oakland, but instead rallied behind their teams in the Charter Oak tournament. I find it hard to believe that you wouldn’t know this as a high school sports reporter, so I’m left to think that you consciously chose to ignore the fact that the entire point of these Nike regional events is to earn a spot at The Opening at Nike headquarters in July; and, as Griff already pointed out, Vaughns and Sidney ALREADY HAVE AN INVITATION – a fact I am positive you knew. There would have been NO REASON for them to be there. Mentioning them served no purpose.

            Worth noting, there were THREE athletes from Bishop Amat and TWO from Loyola – teams participating in the Charter Oak tournament – that were also in Oakland, rather than playing with their high school.(Again, potentially more…testing data scenario) And, while, yes, 2 of them played on BBT’s 7v7 team this season, they did not travel with Tra to Oakland either in the original van or by plane. Are you planning to attempt to shame all 5 of these athletes on their commitment to their high school teams too? Are you interested in who they traveled with or why they went?

            Your characterization of Isaiah “shunning his team” a few days ago is entirely unfair to him…and honestly….mean.

            In all sincerity, this article is sloppy at best, and should be viewed as such. (I don’t pretend to be a writer…I know I am the Queen of commas splices and run-on sentences!) Even if you didn’t hear back from Tra you could have and SHOULD HAVE substantiated and verified what you were told by someone who heard it second hand with someone ACTUALLY INVOLVED. The easiest and most obvious choice would have been Isaiah or his mother. Why that didn’t happen….? Well, who knows.

          • AramT

            How do you know exactly what my text to Tra said?

            Also, why is Damon Griffin saying that Tra flew people back if the accident happened in Monrovia. Were the flights out of El Monte Airport?

            Don’t just assume the article vilifies Tra, show me exactly where it does that. I never offered my opinion even ONCE in the article. Don’t take what people have said here in the comments as an article I wrote. They’re two separate things and people are entitled to their opinions.

          • The truth and nothing but…

            They flew out of Ontario!

          • Damon Griffin

            AramT,
            Sorry bro, I want to give you respect because I believe you do a good job for the community. But for someone talking about in incident and didn’t talk to a single person that was there, is not fair reporting. You are entitled to write however you want. But if you read the comments its easy to see how you can see how people perceived your article. I mean you didn’t even talk to the mom or Love. The only name that should of been talked about is Love and the great athlete and person he is on and off the field, and how he’s going to miss some games. If you know anything about me, no one would ever say anything bad. El Monte airport, come on man, get the facts from someone!! There was a lot of people there!!!

          • Mean Joe Green

            You must be Tra’s lawyer. If you are not, you should be. Very good defense of Tra’s actions, the detailing of the incident that took place and the circumstances surrounding Love’s visit. To me, this all sounds like “much ado about nothing”. I hope the kids has a speedy recovery.

          • The truth and nothing but…

            Wow Aram, really? Is there a single person who read this article that would say you were not slamming BTB?

        • reality

          So to make sure I understand the truth to this story. Tra paid thousands of dollars of his own money like maybe 5 grand or so to take how many boys on this trip?And then after the accident paid to fly some more boys home like say 2 grand? And the trip was free for all the boys including meals and lodging? Is that what you are saying in defense of this program?

          • Shalva_24

            To be perfectly clear:

            *Tra owns two 15-passenger vans, and has owned them since late 2010 or early 2011.

            *The original trip included 2 adults over 21 – Tra and another adult, 2 junior college athletes between the ages of 18-21, and 6 high school athletes.

            *The accident happened in Monrovia, 20 miles away from home. Judging by the comments and the inadequate reporting, there is a belief amongst those commenting that the accident occurred far from home, and that kids were left in the hospital in the middle of nowhere while Tra continued on to Oakland. Nothing could be further from the truth.

            *It was a single vehicle accident that was caused by fishtailing after suffering a blown rear tire.

            *Tra did not rent another van, as was reported by Aram. Tra OWNS another van that arrived to pick everyone up in the parking lot where the CHP left them after clearing the van from the freeway.

            *Tra and all involved stayed at the hospital with Isaiah’s mom during the time he was initially evaluated and treated. At the point in time they left it appeared that Isaiah was going to be released. He was not abandoned at the hospital. Aram could have reported this if he had ever talked to Isaiah or his mother prior to publishing a report ABOUT ISAIAH.

            *Tra purchased 6 plane tickets online from Ontario to Oakland. They flew to Oakland Saturday evening so that they could participate in the Nike event on Sunday.

            *The amount spent is insignificant. No parent paid for any part of this trip, nor was there an expectation that they would pay.

            @reality All of this is not “in defense of the program”, but the TRUTH of what happened, something sorely missing Aram’s original article.

            Coach Maggiore is the only source of information in this article, and it is clear that he was not entirely informed or blatantly misinformed by someone about the facts related to this incident. The burden of researching and verifying this is on Aram – and there, he failed miserably.

          • AramT

            Okay wait a second we’ve got Damon Griffiin saying that Tra paid to FLY PEOPLE HOME and now Shalva is saying the accident happened in Monrovia “20 mins from home”.

            ?????????????????????????

          • Shalva_24

            On that point alone, Griff misspoke. The accident happened on the westbound 210 between Mountain Avenue and the Huntington Drive exit in Monrovia. Isaiah was treated at Arcadia Methodist Hospital.

          • AramT

            Hey Shalva,

            Are you really telling me that if Vaughns and/or Sidney hadn’t yet been chosen for The Opening, they would have missed the Charter Oak Tournament to be up in Oakland instead?

          • Shalva_24

            I’ve said nothing of the sort. I am neither a spokesperson, family, nor personal confidant of either of those young men. I do not speak on their behalf at all, nor do I pretend to.

            I simply stated the truth of the matter. THE REASON any motivated athlete attends any of the “The Opening REGIONAL QUALIFIERS” is to QUALIFY for The Opening. They had already been invited. A fact I am sure you were aware of.

          • AramT

            No, but you implied that the only reason they were with their teams was because they already qualified for The Opening. So what was Echols’ excuse for being with CO? He’s not a Opening invite. Why wasn’t he in Oakland?

          • Shalva_24

            And nearly every person commenting here has inferred from your story and a single quote that Tra ditched a van full of hospitalized kids with no concern for their well-being. It’s semantics.

            I do not speak for Zion, nor will I speculate why he chose one activity above the other. And, it’s not germane to the initial purpose of your story – that a player from the area you report on was injured.

            All of this conversation still skirts the issue that you never even attempted to speak to his mom to verify what you heard and we’re reporting on.

          • DrWho

            So if this Griffin guy is sticking up for Tra and his “boys” got invites…how FIXED is the selection process to the opening (at least the LA portion of it)???? Seems a little suspect that event organizers and those who select players are aligned with these coaches. I’m sure not all is fixed but its really SUSPECT Griffin speaking up for “his guy.”

          • The truth and nothing but…

            If Griffin and Tra are friends, how is it SUSPECT that he is speaking up on behalf of a friend? That tells us you don’t have any friends.

          • DrWho

            Yeah….thats the case.

          • Damon Griffin

            DrWho,
            Obviously you don’t know what the hell you are talking about and just trying to start something. Make sure when you challenge someones integrity you know what you are talking about. Tyler and Trevon happened to be some of he #1 athletes in their position in the country and have numerous offers. Its my job to know all coaches around the country. You don’t have the credentials I have on accident in my field. And yes Tra s a friend, and I will defend him, because he’s one of the few that are doing it right.

          • The truth and nothing but…

            Hey Aram, stop pretending to be dumb. Each player and their family make their own decisions. Love chose to attend and Echols chose not to attend. Maybe Echols has no desire to participate in the Opening while Love wanted to. You make it seem as if that is odd, how and why?

      • Damon Griffin

        Aram even you title is wrong, Body By Tra’s team didn’t travel to Oakland, only a couple of players from the team went on the trip.Please note Tra was at the hospital with Love

  • reality

    Questions? Was this trip free to the players? Eleven started out six fly to Oakland. Why? Why is Damons story so different. If your story is the truth why has no parent or adult player come on here to support you? Is a 15 seat 2010 van a good idea for a long road trip for 11 people with six being minors? Is this try out camp that important? Were you going to have a meeting at Cal at all? So far I can’t believe any body on here. Like in most mysteries a good reporter knows to follow the money. If we can do that the story will get much clearer for better or worse depending on which side of the fence your on. As Mr. Bryant stated that started this thread, these 7 on 7 coaches are great investments. I am just trying to discern if that is true and worth young athletes being apart from their high school teams and going on long van trips with a bunch of adults that are not family, and if it’s free it’s for me.

  • Mean Joe Green

    High school is a temporary situation. Although the permanent jobs of coaches, reporters and school officials depend on it, the futures of our children do not. Let us put our egos aside and stop criticizing kids and families who make decisions that they think is best for themselves. I will encourage a player to show coach-loyalty the moment that I see a coach show player-loyalty. It is nice to see a coach win games, but let’s be clear, no coach will or should put his family’s future in jeopardy for the sake of winning. Nor should a player.

    No one wants to be the bad guy and say it, so I will. Who f**king cares about the Charter Oak Tournament? If Love would have injured himself in a stupid 7v7 tournament with his team, people would have been crying about how he missed an opportunity to visit college coaches and got himself hurt with his team. Love did not miss a game with his team. It was an inconsequential event that is not sanctioned by CIF and has no bearing on the team’s future or the player’s.

    High school is a stepping stone (or at least it should be). The only purpose of high school football is to make these young men better individuals and assist them with their future aspirations. If you are a good high school coach, you will find a way to harmonize your agenda of winning with a kid’s agenda of going to college. If you can’t do that, then you shouldn’t be coaching kids.

    Lastly, who cares if this kid had 18 offers or none. College verbal offers are not binding. Offers mean nothing until an NLI is signed. Any offer can be pulled, and schools like USC regularly do it. So it would behoove a kid to get as many as they can. Injury, a poor senior year, or interest in other prospects can easily change your offer portfolio.

    • Don

      Joe, you post lots of things here that I agree with. Today there are a couple I do not. So, respectfully:

      Regarding the question of a family’s wisdom when making choices for their kids based upon the way they view said kid’s athletic potential I can only say when it comes up, I’ll call it as I see it. You’ll rarely see me post anything negative about a particular player but the decisions regarding transfers, personal trainers, seeking ‘exposure’, and the like are almost always made by the parents or guardians and are fair game as far as I am concerned.

      High School football, for almost everyone, is not a stepping stone, it’s a destination; the culmination sometimes of years of kiddie ball and off season training just so they can play for their school, their friends, teachers and parents. Often for only one
      year. The vast majority of kids who play High School varsity football will never play organized ball again after they graduate and even among the rare ones who do go on to make a college roster there are damn few who play well enough to ever be heard from again.

      • Mean Joe Green

        I agree with you Don. By stepping stone, I did not mean that its a stepping stone to college ball. I meant that it is a temporary point in a young man’s life. Coaches are supposed to assist these young men in their transition to adulthood and provide them with the discipline, guidance and mental training for the next steps in their lives. You are absolutely correct when you say that playing high school ball is the destination of many of these kids who are looking to play football. But I am not talking about athletic destinations, I am talking about life destinations.

        If a kid wanted to miss a tourney to go see his armed forces recruiter then the coach should encourage it. If he wants to miss a tourney for an internship with a doctor or lawyer, then any coach should encourage it or work with the kids to coordinate it around his schedule. These kids are buying a bill of goods from lots of these trainers that are selling them that their high school coaches do not have their future or best interests in mind. The high school coaches only reinforce that idea, when they give them these “You’re either with us or against us” type of alternatives. Don, I had to think long and hard about if my child got an unofficial invite to visit Cal, what would I do. Personally, it would be based on my family’s relationship with the coaches and whether or not I believe the coach is equally concerned and/or active in my child’s future.

        • Don

          Thanks for the clarification Joe.

          Looks like we are in agreement. Again.

          Don