Whoops
The teenage son of former Irwindale Councilwoman Rosemary Ramirez found himself in some trouble early Sunday morning after he plowed through a neighbor's wall while he was driving home around 4 a.m.
But it ended up being a non-issue. A police report was not made, no one was arrested, no one was hurt, and neighbors decided not to press charges on what was classified initially as a hit-and-run.
Here are some pics taken of the wall, at the corner of Irwindale Avenue and Peppertree Lane.
And here is the damage of the truck, found in front of Ramirez's home.
IRWINDALE -- The teenage son of former Councilwoman Rosemary Ramirez fled the scene after he drove his truck into a neighbor's brick wall.
A resident called police around 4:10 a.m. on Sunday to report a possible hit and run suspect who ran his vehicle into the wall at the home of 4940 Irwindale Ave., police records show.
The driver's name could not be released because he is a juvenile, said Police Chief Sol Benudiz.



"But it ended up being a non-issue"
But you write about it? Come on, the kid a minor and you made it very clear who he is.
So we are now obsessed not only with the relatives of sitting politicans, we are also obssessed with the relatives of FORMER politicians as well. THIS IS NEWS!!!!
What's next? An exclusive undercover expose on the driving habits of the nephew of the accountant who once prepared a tax return for the son of the former campaign manager of a former local local elected official?
WOW!!! I bet that'll blow City Hall wide open.
I bet there is more to the story. The kid ran into the wall while driving home at 4 a.m. Then he left the scene, and no police report was made. I wonder if any politician had any influence on the outcome of this. If so, then I could see how this is news.
There is definitely more to the story. A 17 year old kid is driving home at 4am, isn't curfew 10pm for minors. Regardless of who his mother is, wasn't she concered about where he was at. Should she get reprimanded for allowing her child to be in the streets so late. If this kid lives down this street and drives down it everyday, what impaired his judgement this time. Could he have been under the influence not to be able to make that turn at 4am...
I don't believe that his mother being a politician is a concern with the public. The concern is that when you live in such a small city you are able to do just about anything, when you know the right people. I guess this is teach our young children that they can do anything and get a away with it as long as they live in Irwindale. So they next time I have any problems with the law I will make sure I have Mark Breceda at my door.
where do i get my get out of jail free card? I think all residents should get one. as a mother i too would do anything i can to help my son, especially if its going to hurt his future. dont blame a mother for protecting her child. blame the system. blame the ones who run the system illegally. that tells our children alot about our corruption in the system.
Where do I get my GET OUT OF JAIL FREE card? I too think all residents should get one. We need not blame the mother for protecting her child from destroying his future. Be mad at the system. Who let him go after the facts? I would beg and borrow if I had the right sources. Wouldnt you? Dont hate. 17 years young and we have all been there. Irwindale the city of Opportunity! Right! Pray for the family. Im sure they need it.
Well… Well… Well…
Come on Irwindale residents, does this news really surprise us?
We are accustomed to this behavior by politicians and city officials of this great City of Irwindale. I just want to address two concerns regarding this blog:
1. I am assuming this incident was isolated due to the fact that an ex-city councilwoman’s immediate family member was involved (oh and by the way, might be running for council again in the future and mind you morals / ethics are not of importance to her because of prior allegations of misuse of municipal computers at her place of employment).
2. The Chief of Police did not release any information as to the name of the minor involved in this “hidden incident” which is understandable due to laws involving the release of minors’ information. As a resident who wants to be informed, I could have only wished that he would have at least addressed that an investigation was underway and charge(s) would be either forwarded to the Los Angeles DA’s office or other informal court proceedings against the minor would have been brought upon. Yet he leaves us wondering, as with most of the City of Irwindale officials who have failed to inform residents on issues where they know they screwed up on. If this incident did in fact happen, I understand that this collision occurred on a public street and the loss was on private property, but what about the victim, the State of California. The California Vehicle code has set provisions on minors who are under the age of 18. Is the city considering incriminating this minor on any of these provisions?
Would have things been handled differently if someone was killed at this corner? We can only wonder.
I feel there is no better time than now to have this information forwarded to the Los Angeles County Civil Grand Jury and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
I can only hope this information makes people want a change in their city and maybe look at new hopefuls for future council candidates.
What concerns me the most regarding this incident is the Sergeant on duty that night and his or her actions regarding this incident. Isn't it customary that the police dept take an incident report? Resident II correct me if I'm wrong if you are a minor driving a vehicle don't you need adult supervision with you? So at the very least wouldn't officers cite the minor for this simple infraction instead of allowing the teen to simply go home without any punishment? Maybe the Chief and the department wouldn't get so much heat if they did their job in the first place.
It's too bad I don't personally know anyone in the department or on the City Council that can help me out when I decide to leave the scene of an accident.
Hi Resident III.
You are right... At that hour there should have been a licensed adult in that vehicle. Hmmm.... Was there a licensed adult? Who knows!
As for your comment on who was working that night. Everyone has a right to initiate a public records request so you are able to find out about the incident (limited information and hopefully a disposition) and quite possibly what officers were working that night. I am curious to know who was working also.
But remember, this city is reluctant to provide details on any information. There immediate concern are the filling of the quarries and road improvements. Any suggestions that residents provide council or staff are usually heard in one ear and out the other.
What ever happened to the investigation of the misuse of public monies in New York? Wasn’t the DA’s Public Integrity Division investigating this? Can anyone here provide any solid information on this?
Take care.
hey what happened to my get out of jail card? does anybody know who i can get one from? what do i need 2 fake letters and a note from the landlord that wants me to vote his way. got it! so is this a voters package or residents package? everything is abused in this system, but we are talking about a childs life its up to the parents to make sure he does right, now, so hopefully they have control over his doings in the future. lets leave the child out of the politics.
hey what happened to my get out of jail card? does anybody know who i can get one from? what do i need 2 fake letters and a note from the landlord that wants me to vote his way. got it! so is this a voters package or residents package? everything is abused in this system, but we are talking about a childs life its up to the parents to make sure he does right, now, so hopefully they have control over his doings in the future. lets leave the child out of the politics.
Hi Resident said.
Why should the “people” leave the child out of this? This was his offense. Obviously the parents failed by not keeping him on check. But in reality who really cares. It appears that the city has just brushed this up under the rug.
I've been losing sleep over this one. I would like to know how many laws this kid broke allegedly: speeding, wreckless driving, destruction of property, hit & run, possibly dui, being out after curfew, driving unsupervised between 10 pm and 6am, possible driving wih a minor, possibe bribery and corruption and cover-up? Not to mention, the parents responsibility in all this. What were the parents thinking of lettting this minor child out unsupervised at 4am?
I just hope the bus driver didn't teach him how to drive!
Hey, how did you know that this all leads to a massive conspiracy by the CIA and the FBI?? You've seriously been losing sleep? May I suggest laying off the caffeine and X-Files? Not everything is a cover-up. The kid did some things he shouldn't have, and he and his parents should be held responsible. But to suggest there's been bribery and corruption without any proof is a little extreme.
To the blogger above,
Call the Irwindale Police Department and ask (if any) for a disposition of this incident. You as a person are entitled to this information. You may not get names, etc. But at least you will see for yourself that it was brushed up underneath the mat.
Oh, and for your comment about "little extreme," have you been to a Irwindale Council meeting? If not, they are pretty entertaining. Try asking the Mayor, Council and City Staff to elobrate on this incident or other incidents and see what information you obtain from them... It is like a four ring circus.
Yes, it is extreme. You can ask the Council anything you'd like at its meetings, but if it's not on the agenda for discussion, legally they're unable to address the issue. That's per the Brown Act. Go ahead and submit your request for information and see what you can dig up. But until bribery and corruption has been proven, it's best not to slander others.
I would like to know about the property owners in all of this. Why didn't they demand justice? If someone crashed in to my yard at 4am and drove away I wouldn't just accept an apology and a new gate as justice. How is this teaching the minor and other minors involved responsibility? So the next time another accident occurs is the department going to look away? I highly doubt that. If this kid really learned his lesson that night would he be on myspace bragging about the incident? If it were my child they wouldn't have access to the computer, television, phone, etc.
Its also concerning that we haven't heard anything from City Council members or the Chief on this cover-up. After all it is a cover-up.
To the person quotting the "Brown Act." There is a time to bring up anything not on the city council agenda, its called "spontaneous communication," and the Brown Act does not prohibit the council from speaking on any issue brought up in this forum; just an FYI. Have you actually been to an Irwindale council meeting?
As far as proving something, I believe the word "allegedge" was used; look it up. It does not constitute "slander."
I see someone was able to respond to "Sleepless," I believe the X-Files has been off the air for years now. I don't think you need caffine to be up after 10:00 p.m. on a Friday or Saturday night. Actually, it might be curfew for some young adults, at which point I hope a parent would be awaiting the safe return of their children, even if they are over 18 years old. By the way, to the parent of wreckless teen, maybe you need some caffine. Can you say, Starbucks?
Since more people are listing their "opinions," I just thought I would list mine. Its Sunday night, so I'm going to bed. Good Night!
Actually, you may want to take another gander at the Brown Act. The Irwindale Council agenda clearly states that "State law prohibits any Council discussion or action on such communications". So, while it is true that you can bring up any issue that's on your mind during the spontaneous communications portion, it's inappropriate for the Council to address it unless a true emergency exists. That being said, the Irwindale Council's definition of an "emergency" is another story.
Also, just because you use the word "alleged" in front of wild accusations does not make it an appropriate statement to make. You're an adult and should act like one. You can't/shouldn't just make up stories without any proof. Thank goodness you don't work for the Tribune!
P.S. - You do know that the X-Files is on DVD now, right?
I think the point of the Brown Act is that the City Council can't take action on a non-agendized item. That seems reasonable seeing as there may be more than one side to an issue than the side presented by a person(s) in the public comment portion of a meeting. Requiring that no action be taken until the matter is agendized makes sure that all interested persons can later come and speak on the matter, rather than have one person or one group of people high-jack the discussion and possible the City's business without notice to anyone else who has a stake in the issue and who might disagree.