We've got good flow going on the 2006 Charter Oak schedule thread ...
the recruiting debate has broken out. It didn't come in the Los Altos or South Hills threads, but the CO thread pushed things over the top. What cracks me up is that people say it's OK for Amat or Damien to do it, and I am not saying they do or anybody else does. Seems to me that Amat loses more than it keeps these days. I like the Los Altos complaints considering that LA's top returning player just transferred out. Selective debating, gotta love it!
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Sometimes kids just get lost in the shuffle,my son transfered to charter oak from glendora and is doing much better in school and baseball. The program at charter oak is superior in every way and is not an elitist,caste system that seems to prevail at his last school. Playing time is granted out according to merit,not cronyism or who the coach is buddy buddy with. Bottom line c.o finals last year,division champs nine out of the last eleven years. Coach Quinly runs a fine program.
Definitely agree that success begets success.
What is the difference between moving and changing addresses? Is there any implication there?
Who is the best running back in CO history?
Success, tradition and reputation are the three traits that speak wonders for schools that "don't recruit." Why do you think COHS is year in and year out one of the top programs around? Big Lou and his staff are a close knit bunch that have developed a reputation of excellence and winning throughout the years. Why would any parent that wanted their child to be a part of such a program not move or change addresses so that their child could be a part of such a program. As unfair, in some cases, as "recruiting" is, athletes should not be limited as to where they want to compete as long as they adhere to the rules and regulations set forth by the CIF governing body.
I disagree. It’s all about where you play and whom you play against. That is the main reason why these kids are transferring. Here is an example, in the early 90’s I was part of the JV coaching staff over at Bassett. During the late 80’s early 90’s the Varsity squad had a solid coaching staff from APU (Pettingill and Gonzales were the main two). During that time frame they had good talent, they had a running back by the name of Marshaun Thompson who led the State in yards his Senior year (90) and a middle Linebacker by the name of Richard Parham who voted or labeled by the tribune “most feared linebacker� his senior year (90). Those two were surrounded by great players including the strong safety by the name of Bobby Ruiz who led the league in interceptions his senior year (90) and didn’t even make All League, how is that? My point is that during that era Amat was on fire with a good running back by the name of Scott Fields. Fields was recruited by SC and he became a DB for them. Thompson was then 6’1 220 with a 4.4 in 40 yards, Parham was a mad man at 6’3 240 with a 4.6 in 40 yards. Although both had good grades the stadium was filled with D-2 recruiters, If I remember correctly UC Davis was the only D-1AA looking at Thompson. Many D-1 schools invited them to a walk on try out but that was all. We as a coaching staff did our best to get these kids noticed. D-1 schools have a limited of scholarship and they are not quick to hand one over to someone that has been running over a 5’5 LB from Sierra Vista. My point is that it does matter what school you come from.
i think its all bull crap kids should stay were they belong it dont matter where yu go to school if your good the college will find yu .there finding my kid and he goes to a sub par football school but than again he is a stud lol.
anyone who thinks los altos,south hills,charteroak and a few others dont recruit think again,i guess yu can say that they pomise the kids the world just to get them to come over ,and its no different in orange county they do it to its happing all over l here stories from parents all the time i should carry a tape recorder with me lol.
I think transferring in and out of high schools can take a toll on a kid. Ideally, kids can attend school and play sports with the other kids they grew up with. Transfer students often face challenges with becoming fully acclimated to the new environments and having a similar camaraderie to what they may share with their buddies back home.
Furthermore, I think that having multiple transfers is a red flag to college recruiters. Whether the message is legitimate or not, a kid who transfers sends the message that he will bail out at the first sign of adversity once he is in collge.
That being said, sometimes transfering is the best thing a student can do. I just hope that parents and students visit the high schools' administrative offices, especially the college guidance counselors prior to making their decision. Please don't lose site of what a rare opportunity it is to get recruited for sports. Stay focused on the academic preparation and college placement for all students on campus, not just those who are born with the physical tools that college coaches are seeking: minimum height (varies by position), speed-weight combo, vertical jump, etc.
My son played two years ago at BP Roadrunners. One of the parents had two of there older sons playing at LA. The two were set to attend Amat, at that time Amat did not have the new weight training facility and were not doing that well compared to the teams they had in the past. The parents had stated that LA had promised to build a new facility along with a new turf field that would attract the attention of other top players in the area. The word around the circle of parents is that most parents are not happy with the slow development of the promises LA made. I don't know if that's why LA's top player transferred out, but I have noticed an increase of kids transferring in and out of high schools. Is recruiting the trend that will continue to grow? What do area parents think about that?