DISCUSSION TIME: Mission Valley League vs. Almont League ...

im a football player 4rm schurr high school and we have been winning/sharing league for the past 5 years.
so.....if i could put input i would say schurr has been rising up in the almont league!

and that SCHURR IS #1

This year Schurr High was lucky to win the CIF title their were more teams in the league that could slap around Schurr plus San Gabriel lose every year how could they be one of the best in the Alomnt League if their ranking should be almost the same as Keppel the three best teams are Alhambra,Schurr,and Bell Gardens so watch out for these three teams the next season cause one of these will be the next CIF champions..!!!

Aram you wrote:
If any of you have suggestions for players to add to my "Notable recent players" section, please let me know. I was thinking maybe Donald Boyd from Gabrielino? Joe Silva from Rosemead? Martin Mares from Arroyo? Let me know ...

I'd just like to say that Joe Silva was definately a big part of Rosemead during his time. He played lots of positions throughout his career and showed why he received 1st team LB (2 yrs straight) 1st team RB (Sr. Yr) Back of the Year (Sr. Yr) 1st team ALL-CIF LB (Sr. Yr) and was also a starter in the Hall of Fame game. I followed his career and was very upset that he discontinued playing ball.

I would like to know what anyone thinks about him and his time at Rosemead.

watch out for alhambra's julian capucetti he is an outstanding wrestler if those asses at alhambra play him they will be excellent

watch out for alhambra's julian capucetti he is an outstanding wrestler if those asses at alhambra play him they will be excellent

Well the 3 seed from Almont whooped the 1 seed from Mission Valley.

Nuff said... well no, let me say a bit more.

Alhambra(Almont 1 seed) took out Orange
Alhamgra beat Schurr in the season finale
Schurr took out South El Monte 48-20

So 2 Almont teams advance and all Mission Valley teams go home.

Now its NUFF SAID.

Is a rematch between Arroyo and Alhambra possible in the first round? Alhambra got a lucky coin-flip and Arroyo got the unfortunate #3 spot although they beat rosemead who got the #2 spot. So now Arroyo will have to travel in the first round... I just hope its not down to the O.C.

Question to BG, Are you sure BG shut Brown down?
Wasnt he hurt that week, did he even play?

Well Alhambra handed it to Schurr tonight, now there is a 3 WAY tie for ALMONT LEAGUE CHAMPS.

Word is that the flip has already taken place,
1. Alhambra
2. Bell Gardens
3. Schurr

Bell Gardens shut Down babb and brown. Why doesnt bell gardens Get any love? did we forget how bell gardens ran the 90s? we shut down everyone and now we get no love. Cold shoulder to bell gardens. you better watch out bell gardens is going to sneak up on everyone

Bell Gardens shut Down babb and brown. Why doesnt bell gardens Get any love? did we forget how bell gardens ran the 90s? we shut down everyone and now we get no love. Cold shoulder to bell gardens. you better watch out bell gardens is going to sneak up on everyone

Any news about Alfred Varela the WR from San Gabriel? Was his dad the famous TE/Punter from St. Mary's from 78-81? If that's his dad he was a stud! Did the WR go on to play anywhere?

Player to look out for this year is Anthony Gonzales of Rosemead. A 6'3 280 Defensive Tackle. Also a outstanding wrestler.

I'm telling you that they wont be within 3 td's this time. Yes I am a Schurr alumni, but i have a nephew that plays for Alhambra. Brown is a stud(best back in the league) but has no blocking and as far as Babb you just can't flip a switch and turn into the best receiver in the league. All i'm saying is that Schurr will win big!!!!.They have something like 18 starting spots returning the other four played alot so no real unproven players there and the Almont league player of the year (CANO)

Schurr 45 Alhambra 18

alhambra doesnt have their best team anymore but what they do have is stars that are going to be better....im talking about brown and babb brown should be the best running back in almont this year and i expect alhambra to run a lot more then last year and babb is expected to have his biggest year because he is being highly recruited and hes going to have to show up everygame. if he decides to just play and not get in his little moods when he doesnt get his way he should be unstoppable.....the only person in almont that can stop babb is babb

Why does everyone talk about Alhambra winning league they could'nt even do it when they had the best team. This year Schurr will kill them by 3 td's. "you heard it hear first"

Swarm,
Great job, and I know you played defense at Arroyo (SWARM) that's what the Knights D has done for years. I think you will have a hard-time finding another school that can say that, and be as consistent as we have been since the early 80's
Anytime, Anyplace, Any-team (GO KNIGHTS)

The past 2 seasons are Arroyo has played in the semi's and the 1/4's... every player on the roster began their careers at Arroyo. Anybody else want to claim that???

Going back to a comment by "MR5"? SG did beat Arroyo in 03' and the score was a rout. But Arroyo wasn't 10-0. They were 6-4 and MVL champs and did it with 2 returning starters from the year before and a new coaching staff. Know your facts before you get online. How did SG do in Jones' 1st season? How many Almont league champioship banners are hanging in the gym? It was the next season that Arroyo went 10-0, MVL champs (again), smoked La Serna in the 1/4's (who had put up about 50 on BG the week before) & then they lost in the semi's. The next season they finished 3rd, behind two teams that had their best seasons in recent memory, and still got their stuff together enough to knock off the Almont #1 & give South Hills their only scare of the playoff's even if it was for only about 3 quarters. Having said that I think Jones is a helluva coach and I do not think anybody looks forward to playing against his offense. But the 1 year they made a run they had a roster capable of running that system. Great running game, 4 solid wr's, a great pass blocking o-line that was huge and a qb that could throw like hell. If SG doesn't get the kids... that offense will have trouble winning consistently.

Classic!

We're not here to screw around on this blog, let alone make friends. Personally, I can do that all day long in the newspaper. The problem here is that some people i.e. LA or CO or SH fans hold teams like Arroyo or Rosemead to their standards. So, simply making the semis isn't a big deal. Of course when kids from La Puente or Baldwin Park or Pasadena start showing up to play at Arroyo or Rosemead like they do at the schools mentioned above, then we can start holding them to those same standards. Hahaha, I crack myself up, but there's humor in the truth.

who is this Dennis Maldonado CLOWN ? and how can you say you follow football and make comments like that. Open your eyes, all you have to see is who did South Hills play in the last two semis (Arroyo and South El Monte). Follow that, and make-up your little mind on who you like front-runner. It is Bishop or LA ?
Go Arroyo........

Dennis Maldonado is wrong when he says Arroyo plays a weak sched and doesnt get far in the playoffs. Pre-league this year for the knights include Temple City, Warren, Alhambra, El Rancho, and Tustin. Playoff success includes Semi-finalistts in '96, '97, and 2004 as well as Qtr. finalists in 2002 and 2005. GO KNIGHTS GO!

Since when did the Miramonte League get back into D7?? The only changes are, the San Antonio League out, and the Freeway league in.

aram- follw up-my opinion is division 7 is a weak division but now that the miramonte is back in, the two leagues to dominate will be the miramonte and san antonio so the missin valley will be fortunate to have any team advance very far in the playoffs. By the way, i was wondering if you could let me know the los altos football schedule-could you please e-mail it to me as well as the bishop amat schedule-thanks!

Pathetic like what? What South El Monte did to Wilson or San Dimas last year? Or what Arroyo did to Pasadena in recent years? Or what Rosemead did to Monrovia? That kind of pathetic? It's comments like that which is why I said the league is underrated, but if you look closely, it's not as bad as its stigma. Plus, the players are cool breed with their attitudes and pride.

First of all, the thread was not about what teams were the toughest in the valley. As for our league what criteria would make us not a joke. We consistently get teams into the higher rounds of CIF, we compete with teams from more prestigious leagues. Our bad teams have been very bad and that has hurt the league. But our league still produces some very good football and some very good teams.I take great pride coaching these kids and there is nothing pathetic about them.

they are both pathetic leagues. I follow HS football in the valley. Both leagues are terrible. Arroyo plays a weak schedule and never goes that far in the playoffs. Now when you are talking tough leagues lets talk about the Miramonte and San Antonio leagues. They will consistently beat up every team from those pathetic leagues. How can you say that the Mission Valley league is underrated?-that league is a joke as is the almont!

I guarantee you that no coach looks forward to playing Bell Gardens from the Almont League. They may not always have the best record, but those guys are tough. Just ask Coach Farar about having to play those guys in the playoffs in 2001 when CO won CIF

Oh yeah, Kenny Andrew. I forgot about him. First team All-SGV Tribune. Tough kid. He's going on there.

I would much rather have a consistantly successful football team (ARROYO) than a team that plays years of bad football and are the cinderella team that makes it to the finals one year (san gabriel). Arroyo hasnt been left out of the playoffs since like 1980. We have alot of pride in our football program. Add these to the leagues notable recents, they are ALL-CIF honors: 2002:Brent Cogburn (WR), Martin Mares (DB), Joe Reyes(DL)
2003:Raul Ramirez (RB), Antonio Guerrero (DL)
2004: Kenny Andrew (OL) Antonio Guerrero (2 year)
Note: Both Guerrero and Ronnie Williams received back-to-back ALL-CIF ('03 & '04)

When looking at both of these two leagues the words "what have you done for me lately?" come to mind. Neither of these two have produced a CIF champion in some time so in my mind they dont really deserve so much ink (especially any team from the pathetic Almont league).

If any of you have suggestions for players to add to my "Notable recent players" section, please let me know. I was thinking maybe Donald Boyd from Gabrielino? Joe Silva from Rosemead? Martin Mares from Arroyo? Let me know ...

I dont really have an opinion on both of these increadibly weak leagues. Im anxious to see the Miramonte vs SA Leagues, tough comparison. Those 2 leagues are both close in the top talent they've produced over the years.

the 90s are in the past this is a san gabriel program on the rise, this is not the same teams from the 90s these are new high powered offense teams... as i look at the notable accomplishments i see three MVL teams that made it to the semifinals and i see one san gabriel team that made it to the finals it may not seem like a big differnce, just on more game but trust me when it comes down to it one game with the teams in div 7 is....and as i remember that year it was a 3rd place san gabriel team that went to play a 10-0 first place arroyo team at their house in the first round and just destroyed them it was a laugher, 44-10 i believe it was....

The Almont league is a pretender not a contender! Period. San Gabriel has had only one good yr in the past Century, and what do they have to show for it?(no league or CIF title) None of their players ever get recruited. MVL clearly the favorite Rumor has it SG recruits players from other local schools and they still cant win.

Great call Honk, that's the perfect way to put it - the MVL has had a renaissance.

OK, You've asked for it and here it is. Right now, I would have to give a distinct advantage to the two upper echelon teams in the MVL -- Arroyo and Rosemead, over the Almont League upper echelon -- Alhambra and Schurr.

The only reason why I have put Schurr in there is because they have won the last three consecutive league championships. Say what you want about them, they are the ones that are getting the league champs patches every year.

But having said that, I think the MVL has been much stronger than the Almont League the last two years. Clearly the Arroyo vs. Schurr game last year bore that out. Now, will that change this year?? Quite possibly. Alhambra should (and let me emphasis this) win the league. But they also should have won the league crown last year, but some ill-advised coaching calls late in the game prevented them from defeating Schurr. (and that is my observation after watching the game film from last year)

When you have a Zion Babb on your team, you should not be losing any league games period. Schurr did an outstanding job of showcasing Jesse Ramirez when he was their at SHS. Their league record 10-0 in 2003 and 2004. They got the most out of Ramirez. It'll be interesting to see if the Alhambra coaching staff and get the most out of Babb this year. If they do, they will win the league...if they don't...well don't be surprised to see Schurr win the title again.

Clearly the MVL is little down (in regards to Arroyo and Rosemead) compared to last year. It's been a bit of reneissance for the MVL...Arroyo has carried the flag quite nicely the last couple of years. Will they have the same playoff success in 2006 or will the Almont League finally have a team ready to make a run? Check back in November...too soon to say right now.

ARE YOU GUYS SERIOUS???? WHY IS SAN GABRIEL FOOTBALL EVEN A TOPIC ON THIS THREAD? ISNT THIS THE SAME TEAM THAT I BELIEVE WENT 0- FOR THE 90'S.
THAT WHOLE LEAGUE IS A JOKE!!!!! THEY CANT COMPETE WITH ANY TEAM OR LEAGUE THIS SIDE OF THE 605. ARAM, YOU SHOULDVE COMPARED THE ALMONT VS. THE MONTVIEW, THEY BOTH SUCK WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO C.I.F. FOOTBALL. AND EVEN THAT SAN GABRIEL TEAM THAT LOST IN THE FINALS WAS HORRIBLE. THEY WOULDVE NEVER MADE IT TO CIF IF THEY WERE IN A DECENT LEAGUE.

The MVL is the most underrated league in the valley. Arroyo is by far the most consistantly successful team from either league, and they have the nicest uniforms. Yea, that Salmon-to-Leon picture is beautiful, but they are not a once in a lifetime thing at Arroyo. Expect Brian Partida(QB) and Marcos Sanchez(WR) to torch their rivals for tons of td's next season. Singiser is also the best coach from either league. Alhambra at Arroyo on Sept. 22 will prove it all. GO KNIGHTS GO!

The only thing San Gabriel has going for them Keith Jones, one hell of a coach. SG kids are good talkers but have nothing to show on the field. Arroyo & Rosemead would crush San Gabriel. I think TC will show that this year.

A good non-league game for the Almont followers: Arcadia vs. Bell Gardens in week three.

i would take san gabriel over any of the MVL teams right now.

ok rosemeads victory over bp, granted was good but dont give rosemead a whole lot of credit considering bp played awful on both sides of the ball

Aram, you are the smartest man alive. The MVL has dominated the almont league in the past. Also San Gabriel is the most overrated team in the area playing a cup cake schedule and is nondeserving of all the hype they recieve. Let me remind you that SG has not won a league title since I can remember, and there magical season in 03 came after the Miramonte league switched divisions. Look at the consistency of the MVL compared to the Almont league, enough said. Remember success or failure is not judged by one season..

Edge to WHO!!!! The weak MVL.....Man I can't wait till Jimmy the E....gets a hold of this......BIG DOG!!!!!