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Hey Bluorca:

New Flash!

Johnny Carson & Jacksback get this!

On 9/29, dough boy quoted " THE CBL HAS NOT BEEN D1 FOR SOME TIME NOW. ACTUALLY ITS BEEN SEVERAL YEARS"

I am totally confused, because CIF SS Division 1 2005 Championship bracketts list four CBL teams last year!

The nachos must be getting to him!

Looking at this weeks game against Rowland will be a test for both teams. Rowland might have had an easier or less competitive pre-seson schedule but they still dominated and that should not be overlooked by our team. GHS has played good ball so far not counting the "Capo brainfart." I'm sure coach P will make the necessary adjustments and show up ready to compete against Rowland. I've watched alot of FB throughout the SGV and I've never seen a coach like P that can pull it out at the last minute like he can. The real Q is whether our boys will come mentally ready to play like we all know they can. Best of luck to both teams...the final score will say alot.

Now big man you know I've been one of your "strongest" fans but as a friend....ppssssssssssssssssttttt..what is it with you and licking? LOL, no LMAO ! See what the nuns did to you? They got you "holy hosting", lol, some kind of wierd tongue thingie thing going on, lol You MUST admit that didn't come out right either did it?

Anyway, love the rants (most of the time) But you didn't take the last homework assignment and apparently freelanced a "thesis" on your own, lol.

Here it is: does Amat have some player that everyone here should "Know" about? Some over achieving senior stud that's just playing "out of his mind!"

Good luck with therapy! lol
Loyal Reader!

Man...ya'll are cool. And I AM a foo! And I love getting fired up if you guys come at me with something smarter than "Bissship Mammont sucks! waaaah! waaaah!" And what about that other dude...the guy pretending to be from Loyola? What the hell is that dude up to? Do you know how expensive it is to go to Loyola? I dont either but I know its ALOT! I bet that sucka got money...lets jack him!

And I am NOT anti-Rowland. I freakin love your uniforms. You guys got the second best uniforms man! I just think Rowland hasn't been as tested as Los Altos,Damien,West Covina, Glendora, and even Charter Oak have. I tell you what Raider people, if you beat Glendora then I will be the first to apologize. I will then lick the filth off of the soles of ALL of your pet Wallabies feet! (offer only applies in U.S. including Alaska and Hawaii! Actually, the offer has been amended and now only applies to the Greater San Gabriel Valley Area....thank you...im done....goodbye.....go lancers...)

DAN.. DANNY.. DAN..

Your guys are nothing but a bunch of front runners. You sit on your couch and give kudo's to the leading rated teams or teams you think are playing tough COMP, and bash the little schools for winning and say 'Oh, they play in weak league or weak competition. What a crock of crap!

And then your slob budding Blucora, sits on other posting and bashes Rowland! He is full of himself and the s--- in his a--!

Carson and Jack do have it going because they see right thru Bluorca and they have a great way of getting him fired up! He takes the bait everytime! What a fool!

Not bashing San Dimas as I have nothing to bash them for, Carson claimed that Carter was a D1 school so bluorca & I just gave him the facts, now he lies & says CIF told him that Carter was now currently D1, yet most people on this board would see right through that lie. yeah Carson & Crazy jack got it going all right.

GT FAN

ARE YOU STILL COUNTING THE KIDS AT MONTCLAIR? LOL - maybe your asthma and breathing problems damaged your brain!

Have another beer with the fat bellies!

Carson and Crazy Jack - You guys got it going!

24/7
My CIF ring looks pretty good and it appears all the backs on line are getting alot of LOVE! Looks like they have alot more friends and fans than you... Where's your NAME on the list? LOL...

Johnny Carson

Your the Man! You got Bluorca, Dan and 24/7 sucking down the on the BUDS and jacked up on the CODAD Mt. Dew. These washed up guys are still on the couch or mommies computer, living at home still and putting down CARTER!

News flash Bluorca, you suck and couldn't hold these athletes jock straps!

Praise to all Football players, don't listen to these AMAT bashers!

Re; Bluorca post on 9.29.06 to J. Carson

Hey, man I laughed so hard on that verbage on Carter Div 1 stuff to J. Carson that I almost had an asthma attack. Keep punching out that side splitting smack...ur better then Carson, Daly, and Leno all rolled into one.

This can not be happening, no one?

LA Times beat us to it! See Friday's high school profile about a 5'9" 191 lb. center? All heart and desire! Was on the "scout" team last year as a junior and now he's having his "SEASON UNDER THE STARS" !

There has got to be some one in the SGV that is this guy! Coaches? Parents? Players? HELP!

Rumble big man RUMBLE ! lol.

Classic on soooo many levels !

But I already "t..p..y..p..e..d.. slowly" they will NEVER understand!

Johnny Carson...Chew on this...
I dont know what C.I.F. you called or checked out but both you and "cif" buds are dead wrong. I know what you are trying to do man. You trying to convince yourself that Carter is in a BIG DIV 1 school now and thats why they KILLED SD last year and beat em down this year as well. Im sorry dude but the CIF Southern Section did away with the old division system. In the old system (which for some reason you believe is still in effect? Its 2006 man!) Division 1 was usually the strongest followed by Div. 2, and so on. There was always a team here and there that could definitely compete with Div 1 or 2 but for the most part, these were the strongest divisions. Again...CARTER was NEVER Div 1 when being IN Div. 1 meant something special. For Carter's history, READ DAN'S EARLIER POST! AGAIN CARTER IS NOT DIVISION 1 NOW because there IS NO DIVISION ONE! The last time I checked the Southern Section is now divided up into 13 NEW divisions. Each division consists of several leagues......ya following me? I'll type slower for you. These NEW Divisions are NOW based mostly on geographic areas. Quality of football programs is NO longer the basis for ranking divisions though most of the OLD Div 1 schools (Leagues) are still grouped together....this is NOW called the PAC-5 (home to Amat, Mater Dei, LB Poly, etc.) Carter is now part of the NEW Citrus Belt League which USED to be an awesome OLD Div 1 league but it hasnt been for years like I stated earlier. IN TERMS YOU CAN UNDERSTAND...CARTER DID NOT GET "PROMOTED" TO A BIG BAD SCARY DIV 1 CUZ CARTER FOOTBALL SUCKS. And for the record, Carter would get completely destroyed if they were in a Pac-5 league and so would you.

Oaks Christian is part of another division entirely. And your wrong when you say that Oaks Christian COULD probably beat everyone in the SGV. The truth is that Oaks Christian WOULD annihilate not only the SGV but all of So. Cal. This is because they are a bonafide football farm now which I've already mentioned in an older log and I'm not gonna get back into that. There would be absolutely no shame in losing to Oaks. They are champions!

"the only thing to fear is fear itself, a woman with a handle bar mustache, and the ignorant that sit open-mouthed at their parent's computers..." ~bluorca

Johnny Carson

Great Job Man, these AMAT guys really think their something special. Anyways quick to put down the up and coming talents!

These types of guys are washed up with fat bellies, sitting on the couch and drinking beer!

24/7

At least somebody is showing alot of love for a 15 year kid at SD. You guys wish you had him and others in the valley like him! You still want to compare a Senior to a Sophmore! LOL

CONQS Fan

Ira Thomas is a great talent, but he better be playing an AMAT or he won't get repect! LOL!!!

South Hills Fans

Don't listen to 24/7, he has had to much BUD. Last time I checked, your wearing some rings....., plus have a great guy for a coach!

why isnt anyone backing Ira Thomas out of LA....the kid comes from Chino Hills after hetting next to Zero carries last year and has been a huge part of the LA offense thus far...the kid is BIG, Strong and almost never goes down on the first hit....plus he has no problem carrying the ball 25 plus times a game.....he is getting better as the season goes on and he also gets better as the game goes on.....allowing LA to punish teams in the 2nd half with time consuming drives.....something about that LA line for the past 10 plus years consistently pumping out thousand yard rushers....Great job IRA....you have my vote

SHHS,

I said it before Gaise is done stick a fork in him. Johnny Crespo is not doing that bad just wish he would have stuck around at Amat because he would be our figured back right now plus next year teaming him with Brice McBride it would have been a nice tandem. His choice to go to CO tho. What Does SHHS have this year?...I never even heard of you running back???......your team is in a rebuilding down year and will lose to WC and Rowland plus Walnut and Nogales may even beat you guys. As far as Nico Barbone he should be call ed Yao Ming for that matter getting all those online votes. You can bet everyone that attends San Dimas place their votes. Not a fair poll it is a popularity contest their. Harris is by far better. Gaise we will never know will we.

LOL AT BIG DAN

CIF just confirmed that since were in the "The New Millennium" now, Cater is in D1. You guys are old and live in the past. Who cares how the division was made up, today is today! You guys just like to downgrade other programs to make yourselfs look better.

I guess if Oaks Christian came out here and kick every SGV team, which they probably could, you would make an excuse for that too!

As Howard Hughes said" It's the Wave of the Future". Get in it boys, who cares about the past or how the league was made up!

Get some new Bubble Gum!

Ah yes...I thought the CBL left Div 1 2 years ago. Thanks for the clarification Dan. Ever since Fontana and Eisenhower stopped being superpowers the CBL has never been the same. Regardless, Carter High is not Div. 1 and never was. Divisions dont really exists anymore anyways. Johnny Carson must be a San Dimas fan trying to make their loss to Carter a bit less painful. I know how you feel man! But the reality is that I dont think they take football too seriously at Carter High. Sorry about your loss though. At least SD didnt lose as bad as they did to Carter last year.

Hate to burst your bubble Johhny C. but this is 2006 and the Citrus Belt is in the inland division, which is made up of teams that were in d2 & d5 last year. If you call CIF they will tell you the same thing. Last year the Citrus Belt [Carter wasn't there] was div.1 but like Bluorca said they haven't been competetive in D1
for a long time.

Bluorca

Maybe you sholud call CIF and ask them. I guess the make up of the Citurs Belt isn't D1 today.

Who cares what happen in the 80's , 90's. This is 2006 Dude!

For Johnny Carson...Some more facts not to be disregarded...

For starters, you should have listened to Dan because he is right on with the facts but here is some more info....

Carter High is part of the Citrus Belt League which WAS at one time Division 1. Back in the 80s till around the mid to late 90's, The Citrus Belt was one of the most powerful leagues in Southern California and was home to two former football farms. Fontana or Fo-hi and Eisenhower (Ronnie Lott) used to not only rule the Inland Empire but also Div-1. These two schools had a monopoly on the local talent because they were the only schools in their respective areas. But then a funny thing happened a few years back...more people moved to the Inland Empire and as a result, more high schools were built . The Steelers and the Eagles were forced to share the talent with the new schools. And thus ended the reign of the Citrus Belt League! The CBL has not been Div 1 for some time now. Actually its been several years...And Carter High School became part of the Citrus Belt only after the CBL left division one. I say again, Carter High School is not and NEVER was a Div. 1 school. The only CBL teams that can say that they used to bump heads with the big boys are Fontana, Eisenhower, Redlands, and I believe AB Miller had a year or two. Thats all folks.

Very funny, lol.

But Rudy only played 2 plays, this kid started ALL season!

Surely there must be someone on someone's team that typifies that "Balls out every down" overachiever. Player's? Coaches? Any nominations?

Or is that kid THAT rare?

I nominate Daniel E. 'Rudy' Ruettiger!
RUDY!
RUDY!
RUDY!

24/7 and Football Fan

The only one's that should not be on the list is Crespo and your boy Gaisie! Small backs with no yards to speak of. Going nowhere at the next level!

Re: CIF Officiating
We have all seen enough HS FB games to know that the officials don't aways get it right. At the college level officials often huddle after a penalty is issued for the sake of getting the call straight. Everyone that loves the game appreciates what most zebra's bring to the game. Far be it from us to dispute what they call fair from time to time. But let's get real, because after all they are paid to do a job...then how's about being the best they can be. Maybe the CIF officials should look closer at the upper levels of officiating to better serve the purpose of their spirit at our level of play.

Hi Dan:

I really dont think last years matters. Carter is D1 this year and since we live in the present, don't try to disgard the facts!

4thLnading:

Good evaluation...

Football Fan: You need to do your homework...

GT Fan; Do you homework too. Montclair has 3101 in attendance. Look it up on the web or call 909 621-1882.

Valley 411: Great Job! Comparisons are tuff at this stage in these young man's life, but it does happen.

Everyone could debate the schedules just like the Democrats and Republicans do all year long!

For me, the bottom line is this. All these great kids are doing a great job for their schools and I am sure the coahes are glad to have them.
Barbone and Harris are different runners with there own style. Harris will probably pass this kid up this week since SD has a bye.
But I looked at the stats and its pretty interesting. Harris 142.7 per game, 7.9 per rush and Barbone 8.53 per rush/132. game.

Harris probably is a better runner at this point simply because he is two years older and has more experience.

The Eagles sing it right... there's a "New KID IN TOWN" and its going to be interesting watching this kid grow not be mention its good for the game.

To all the LINEMAN, you are the guts that make these kids go! Keep up the hard work and remember, Reggie Bush would be nowhere without the monsters at USC!!!

To all the kids who give 100% in the classroom and in sports. remember what the term T.E.A.M. really stands for:

TOGETHER EVERYONE ACHIEVES MORE!

GOOD DAY MATES!

Actually, Aaron Harris is pretty intelligent. Ivy league material, "probably not", but nonetheless he does really well. As far as Nico Barbone, much props to him for being a extremely good student and also a hell of a football player. I dont understand why some of u would try and make the comparisons, but also try and bash the other to make your point across. lets just take in stride that Aaron Harris is AWESOME, Fast, great vision, tough, and a leader. Nico Barbone, tough, aggresive, strong, and only a sophomore. I cant wait to keep reading on this kid as his high school career progresses. PROPS to both and all the other standouts in the valley, no matter what competition their playing against. All you can do as an athlete is play and produce, no matter whos in front of you.Once again this is from one of San Dimas bitter rivals in league, but understand and appreciate a good football player..

Alot of attention is being put on the big schools or high profile schools/players and I'm sure they deserve it but what about other "gems"? Anyone want to talk about a particular player or coaching job that deserves recognition or merit? Someone talked about the heart that Duarte displayed, Any others?

Tangents have been worked to death about this or that, at times brutally, but what about the positive stories that players and parents would love to hear about? There must be a player that just illustrates the pure passion and love that is high school football. When I coached I always marveled at that previously average player who just "sells his soul to the devil (joke)" or is self motivated to "put it all on the line for one magical season!" Because they KNOW they will never play in pads again. They are why coaches coach! To see the love for the game in it's purest form, all out against all odds!

Last year I would have nominated Andrew Caustrita. Don't tell him but he's 5ft.6 7/8inches with cleats, weighed maybe 191 and played with a hell-bent intensity and joyous desire that rivaled ANY player that laced them up! He played nose guard for Damien last year, and gave every team hell.I loved to see him play! Hell I'd pay to see him practice.

Last year I was talking to a friend who coaches on AMAT's Varsity. Caustrita's name came up. He said they were concerned with the big guy in the middle. "Big guy?", I said, You mean #53? He's 5'9" maybe.. probably 5'8"! Amat's Coach said,"man he looks HUGE on film!" At that point we both knew he meant he PLAYED huge on film!

I told Andrew Caustrita, on many occassions, that it was an honor to watch him play. I meant that then and to honor his "SEASON UNDER THE STARS" I humbly request all fellow bloggers to nominate this year's first Andrew Caustita's Magical Season Award nominees. It's really very simple. He's THAT player! Playing like it's the last play of his life FOR A WHOLE SEASON!

In honor of # 53.

San Dimas fans Carter has never been Div 1, the past two years they have been in the old Div. 5 in the San Andreas league, last year they were 3win's & 7losses the year before they were 4win's & 8losses, this year they were put in the citrus belt league which used to be d1 but now is in the inland div. which is a comination of the old D2 & D5 leagues, Carter has wins over Rubidox & San Dimas & lost to Rancho C. 30 to 14, I think most teams in the trib top ten would beat them.
As far as Nico Barbone, for a sophmore to be doing what he is doing at the varsity level, that is impressive, even if it is against lighter competition.

Bill adams is right. Barbone has more yards, but has played in one more game that Harris. Both are great backs, but 2 different backs. Barbone is north and south where as when Harris turns the corner, he is gone. I would like to say, 2 years ago, Harris took himself out of the game against the saints and actually did that in a few games when the Braves were getting pounded. I'll give him credit though, he manned up last season and toughened up. He is the best, Barbone is young and is good, but might turn into a great one. Side note: Barbone is extremely intelligent. Don't know if the other guys are. Can't see Harris playing at an Ivy League school, but Barbone is that type of person. Great Character.

Nico Barbone is probably the only one the give the ball to and that is why he has some yards, I agree with BA 24/7 shouldnt be on the list.
Where are the other receivers from other local schools!

Who's that new Athletic Director from the EAST. He's a real strong addition to AMAT!

Dismantling all the Baseball coaches because kids chose to play travel ball eleswhere during the summer months.

Must be a Boston Red Sox fan and a Teddy Kenenndy lover!

Factually wrong!

Good name for you! Everyone is over AMAT, Move on, the good players are going to others schools.

Running stats are fine but they are sometimes misleading. Example in the single wing, or option the featured runner (QB or RB) gains alot of yardage but the sytem is predicated on that fact. You don't install these offenses if you have Joe Montana in the backfield. Subsequently the TE gains alot of per catch yardage for the same reason, back side post and such. "Sooner/Texas" football! Systems make stats just like systems make "stars."

As far as strenght of schedule, well it's a waste of time to try and define or defend that concept to parents/players/wouldbe coaches who haven't X and O'd against that LEVEL of EXPERITIZE and COMPETENCE week in week out, season in season out. So Blu and others DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME! It's like trying to explain being "born again"

Playing against Rollison, Grady and such is a real rush. The second stringers there are just as prepared and skilled as the starters. I read it here over and over, at nauseum, " well we were missing 1,2 or 3 starters" Big freaking deal. When De La Salle played Poly one year Maurice Drew was the "backup" that torched that Winston Justice, Bing, ect. Poly Team! Div I "skill sets" are awesome. Ever see their line play? TOUGH!

The real scout relies a great deal on the strenght of the assistant coaches and information from their position coach. When Fair/ Gano say. "this kids for real!", their "reputation" carries weight! That's credibility of producing great "next level" talent= (Harwell, Cody started as freashmen in the PAC 10)

Imagine Amat, even today during their "crisis" having this schedule West Co, Charter Oak, Los Altos, Bonita, Damien, Covina, Rancho Cucamonga,South Hills,Claremont, Monrovia? What would their record be? My guess 8-2. Try and figure out the "2" ?

AMAT is loud and braggadocious, but that's the way I like the BIG DOG on my block to act! But they can never win because while OC and The other Valley have increased their profile read $$$$ AMAT is still fighting and crawling to STAY relevent, in good old La Puente! From Pat Haden to McCuthen to Sermons to the next big star. Amat is still the KING OF THE HILL, until someone schedules and survives their competition! No offense intended to other schools it just is! Like walking in the rain...as the song goes.

First off BP does not have the same team as last years. SD has improved. also Nico played allot of travel baseball in his days leading up to his HS days and can hit the snot out of the ball. If he is not playing baseball and thinks he is going to make it as a football player he may be making a mistake here...Baseball is more his game I have had the opportunity of seeing him play. Gaise is not going anywhere and this comes from myself a Amat fan. He is hurt and will most likely not even make it back. He is a good slashy runner with lots of speed but he is in no way big time college football material. Goes to show how a injury can damage your future early. Like William Wagner they just dabble in JC and give it up. Good HS backs tho. I'd hate to see the same thing happen with Barbone chewed up and spit out with a injury and not make it in football. He should stick to baseball........what a shame if does not play baseball for San Dimas...

Valley 411

Exactly... Great comparision! I watched the Glendora Game, and Mike Mcd does runs alot like Nico Barbone. Both guys are right at you and power forward. I watched this kid against D1 Carter last week and was impressed!

I don't think SD will beat BP, simply because of experience. Plus three key guys might be out for SD. But when this kid's a Senior, probably the tables will be turned.

I suggest you read the paper a little more carefully. Your numbers are a little off.

It's amazing how everyone wants to compare this young man to older kids. Great for the younger guy!

Can't wait to see him in two years probably 205lbs.

footballfan

I guess you don't read the box scores in the tribune. Add them up, if you can!

I guess the Tribune prints the wrong facts!

Enough SAID

This Barbone kid is the real deal. Having coached against him in league play last year this is 1st hand experience. That freshman team wasnt that good, but Barbone was a straight man. If i could compare him to anyone, i would say he's a Mike Mcdonough type football player. Is he comparable to Harris, i would say no, very different in style. But dont get me wrong Barbone is for real.
And this is from a team San Dimas plays against...

footballfan

Barbone has 534 yards. Sd stats haven't been updated. 5td hasn't played in last quarter of last two games! 15 years old

Enough SAID!

BA 24/7, are you serious SD beating BP??? Did you see last years game??? I hope that you have a family member at sd because thats the only reason you should be picking them. Harris has eaten up the saints for the past 2 years, and hes bigger, stronger, and faster. Check the stats thus far:

Nick barbone: 409 yards 3 tds
Aaron Harris: 428 yards 7 tds (played in 3 quarters on azusa & sierra vista)

Enough Said

24/7

Nico Barbone doesn't play baseball! His older brother Tyler does. Get the facts straight!

Nico would break Gasie, get in the weight room with him as see!

He's a very strong 15 year old

24/7

It is a imteresting how you or anyone wants to compare a Sophomore to a Senior. The kid is a talent no matter where he wants to go to school.

If Barbone or Harris had a D1 line, where do you think they would be? Seems to me harris is getting alot of looks from a D-9 program, simply because he's good and when the time comes, the scouts will seak out Barbone!

Where is your boy Gaisie going? He better get alot bigger to play at the next level!

You AMAT guys need to get off your high horse! You play down during pre-season because like schools will kick your butt! Amat is not the program it one was.

Well my take on this comes from a former RB in this Valley a few yrs back.It did matter what name that one wears on the helmet whole lot. One can lead the valley in rushing or be up there but if your school does nothing or does not have the name ie."AMAT, LOs AL, So. Hills" its gonna be a lil tough for a back to get credit for what he does. Well that has changed as scouts have opened their eyes and are looking for the diamonds in the rough. Harris is in a tough spot and so it Wallace both are great but Harris has the nah sayers saying his compition is weak. To some this is true but as long as he has a strong showing he will get the notice. Wallace and west. co. have CIF champions to back them now so wallace will have the offers. THe true best back will be that one at the end of the yr that carries his team to the playoffs and cif on his own, such as Harris probably will do. Scouts will notice the strength of one kid to lead a team on his "legs". these are the type of kids scouts look for. So to all the backs no matter what school there from "run hard every down", and the notice and scouts will appear. An dont worry about were u play scouts will show trust me i played at a small school and had a lot of yards and the scouts showed. Just take care of ur grades so when there ready to offer your ready to except. Trust me take that as a lesson learned the hard way...

what about harris when he was a 10th grader he did way better than nico

Barbone is a talent but come on who does San Dimas play? Gladstone? So.EM?....He may be 15 but he should stick to baseball where I hear he is even a better athlete. Why would you send him to San Dimas to play Football when Damien is right around the corner if we are talking exposure here. Harris is good but his stock would have went up even moreso if he played at Amat and performed well against that D1 schedule. WC held BP to 6 points, boy that really helps Harris. With the talent that he has why would he be a homer and play for a low level team like BP. Amat is where scouts come not only to see what talent we have, but like Orca said the other high profile teams we play also have talent. It is high octane football scount want. We are only talking Amat here because it is in Harris backyard but given the chance for him to go to Loyola or a Mater dei only increases his chances of landing in a big time college program. Sure he is getting his offers and will play the next level but when you can perform against the best (D1 teams) it just put you at another level. Running all over D6 and D7 teams is fine but it is not the fair measure of your talent. Barbone would never be leading the SGV in yards rushed if he played against D1 schools. At Amat Nico(even as a senior) would most likely be a starter but not at the running back position....on 10/13 we will see BP and SD play....SD will win that game and most people will say Barbone is better than Harris but it is a team game......Harris is by far better....

Bluroca

Do you really think AMAT is a better program and coach than CO? Think again and you better get some MT. Dew from that CO DAD. He's right on with you!

Tricky Ricky is right on too! Everybody is when it comes to you!

Look at Amat schedule. Do you guys even play up this preseason? Make it three years now!

Get a clue Dude!

I remember Nico Barbone playing against my son's teams @ CO the past few years in junior all american. This kid was a stud @ 10 years old. On both offense and defense. If you are reading this Nico...I wish you the best of luck in your prep career. I always said to those who would listen, you were only going to get better!

as far as running backs are concerned its an open and shut case. Aaron Harris is by far the best back in the valley. He is the reggie bush of the sgv. now aram give the lineman some love. One of the reason Harris is doing so well is #54 and #78 of his o-line. These are some good tackles, and the word is 54 is a jr. he is even better on the other side of the ball. 78 is just a monster, he bulldozes people. I was at west cov game and those boys dominated the los.

Im a valle vista league supporter year in and year out. This year i see Baldwin Park as the team to beat with C-TOWN right there with them.
My only question is to B.P. and Covina, when Harris and Mcdonough are gone what do they have coming up? What are the lower levels like at B.P.
& C-TOWN.

Greetings, I am Mike the clone and you are not!

Aram thank you for making me look like a frecking genius with your pick of the Boy's athlete of the week Jordan Edmond.

GOOD NIGHT NOW!

Nice Smack A.T.

I don't think Pasqie would let the "franchise" go anywhere.

Jordan Edmond get's my nod. And not only because he's a "bagpiper"

While our passing game struggles to get on track and our kicking game still stinks like "Coalinga" on a hot summer day in August He is what is keeping it real at "bagpiper' U.

We are pretty much a one dimensional team right now. And that is because of the "experiment" from last year. With key guys in key spots only having this their senior year with varsity experience.Thank god for our swarming defense.

I can only imagine if "Crookie" and Zach "The heart attack" Johnson,and a couple of others had gained some valuable experience as junior starters last year this team would really be a "juggarnaut".

Now with that said, right now Jordan is our franchise and let's just hope when opponents start keying on him the passing game opens things up and the others answer the call.

You never know Jordan just might have a MVP year, he sure is Glendora's MVP right now.

Good night now!

Mike the clone!

San Dimas has played a good teams. Carter is tough and South El Monte is good. Montclaire have big guys and has speed. Can't say these schools aren't better than San Dimas, they are double in school size. All have 3000 or more kids to San Dimas' 1400. Barbone runs hard and is a great back. Harris still has a notch above him right now though.

Some of you seemed to have missed my entire point. My last entry was in response to previous entries. I recommend you read all entries before responding to mine. That way ya'll dont think I'm a monster attacking your school. The only reason why I mentioned and compared BP and CO with Amat was because of what was said in previous posts. In simpler terms, "he started it..."

I will state again that a superstar player does NOT need a school like Amat. Players like this are going to make the headlines regardless. But how often does a player like this come along for a public school that does no recruiting? Not very often at all. What are the odds that BP is going to have a RB like Harris or WC having someone like W. Wallace the year after they graduate? Not likely either my friends. Just because your "good" does not mean that you are getting seen by scouts. Did anyone READ the article about how William Wallace was deserving of more exposure? Wallace obviously wasn't feeling the love of the scouts was he. The players I'm talking about include the ones that dont make the newspapers like a lineman or a fullback, etc. There are no statistics for how good someone is at blocking. Is it not possible that a overall weak team could have one diamond in the rough? How would this diamond ever be discovered if your schedule is full of teams that are not known for their football programs and/or have records that are below or barely over .500? ? Yes,there are other factors as well but I'm only going to hit one of them right now...

OG,
You had stated that, "your tough AMAT competition is only a small factor in the recruiting process. Some of the best resources the scouts use are the team opponents coaches." I dont know if you meant to strengthen my stance on this but you did. You actually reminded me of the coach factor. It's the football farms that have the coaches that have the most connections. Would it not be wise to attend a school that played these farms year after year that have these coaches? And of course a player at Oaks Christian wouldnt need to attend Amat. Oaks Christian is a definite farm and isnt even located in the Valley. They recruit heavily and have wiped out all of their competition. I dont understand what point you were trying to make when you brought up this school. You stated that they played "nobody" last year yet their opponents had 59 wins and 43 losses. One of their preseason games was againts the school that they met in the championship game (they killed this school 2x in 1 year!) In my humble opinion, I believe this to be an above average schedule wouldn't you agree? And it still continues to amaze me how some people judge Amat on their win/loss record and with no consideration for strength of schedule. Amat HAS played and beat some of the best Div-1(Pac-5) teams. LAST YEAR, Amat played and beat Los Angeles Loyola 28-14 and Mater Dei 28-0. Wanna take a guess at which two teams met in the Div-1 Final? I'll give you a hint...Loyola and Mater Dei.

Tricky Ricky,
I know its not fair to compare Amat with to any high school that does no active recruiting. I only referred to the charts I made in response to 2 earlier posts. I'm all for kids making the right decisions, getting a proper education, and enjoying what is the greatest sport on earth. As far as who cares about schedules/competition stuff....Well I do! Its important man! How are the Valley's future talent gonna be Amat Lancers if they dont have the correct info to make the right decision, get a proper education, and enjoy playing football....at Amat? =)

CODAD,
First of all you need to cut down on the Mountain Dew because you look a bit jumpy. The reason why I mentioned Charter Oak was because someone in an earlier post said, "I am sure Johnny C is glad to leave AMAT, better coaching at CO, put a much better program." A statement like this is going to attract my attention every time! I dont know Coach Lou and I never stated that I did. Nor did I attacked the CO program. And no, I dont know Johnny C's parents nor did I claim to. There must be some other blogger on here that stole my jacket or something. And your right...Amat did play down the last two years when they played CO. Amat beat CO 34-7 last year and 28-0 the year before. These Amat teams went 12W-10L and didnt even make the playoffs last year! lol! The CO teams went 16W-8L (pretty darn good). Amat might not be the only game in town but this will never take away the fact that CO got SCHOOLED two years straight regardless of Coach Lou OR Johnny C's parents.

P.S. Thanks and high five to that person who left a nice compliment directly after my first long post. As far as splitting those stats up, ACK! I DONT WANNA! It was a pain in the elbows just to do those stats! LOL! I'm sorry teacher but the dog devoured my Philly cheesesteak sandwich along with my homework...

Damien 74, Walsh might have something...

Let's see...Uche @ fullback in short yardage? Sounds like William "the refrigerator" Perry from the Super Bowl Bears! This could work.

Uche and Williams in the backfield...I'm not standing in front of that TRAIN! lol

Good luck against CO, you're a workhorse 74!

All the hype over Dominique Gaisie?? He goes to Amat so what college is he headed to.. Ive seen hime twice this year and twice last year. He is small and goes down rather easy. Whats his deal and I dont wanna hear hes been hurt because he was fine last year and this year and really hasnt produced. McBride is way better.

We have known Nico Barbone for years. He played in our junior all american program for four years! Great kid and a good set of parents!

He may not end up being the rushing leader at year end, but it's really neat to see what he is doing at the ripe age of 15. Keep it up Nico, Glendoran's wish you the best!

Bluorca

You truly believe Amat has a better program than CO because they beat them the last two years?

Why would Amat play CO?

Don't you think Amat should beat CO? Last time I checked Amat was D1? Who playing down?

Do you even know Coach Lou or the other coaches at Charter Oak? Or are you just making general statements about things you know nothing about?

Do you know Johnny C parents and the exact reason why this young man left Amat?

There are other schools to play for and have fun, while getting the proper exposure. AMAT IS NOT THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN!

Bluorca:

I understand what you are saying, but your table has major problems. Do apples to apples. D1 to D1, D2 to D2, ect. You cannot compare a D1 program to D9, and think it's a valid point.

Amat should beat Charter Oak, Damien, Glendora, ect; simply because these schools are in lower divisions. Why do you think divisions are set up that way?

I agree with Bill Adams, if your good, most quality scouts will seek you out! Its their job to do so!

Besides whats the real discussion here is, a group of good student/Athletes trying to make something of themselves regardless of who they play for.

More power to all these athletes if they can bring exposure to their schools. Your to caught up on who's the best competition, who the best schedule. Who cares, it's about kids making good choices in life and playing football.

walsh he plays dt not rb

How about Mendrum from Damien he is a better rusher than half of these backs

Bluorca

Your tough AMAT competition is only a small factor in the recruiting process. Some of the best resources the scouts use are the team opponents coaches. Take Oaks Christian for example. The #1QB, #1RB and his backup are all top 10 nationwide recruits. They played absolutely nobody's last year! You must understand that if you are good they will find you no matter where you are, that is just the truth. I know you are an AMAT lover and believe like many other brainwashed lancer folk that their exposure is the answer to all. But many realize (like Crespo) that BA is not all it is cracked up to be (recently). They need to start winning at the DI caliber level and then they can get some respect around here. They always have good players and DI kids but they are not winning against DI teams They are not getting the best players in the SGV and won't until they start winning at their level. I wish them the best, they shouldn't beat up on local teams, that's easy, they should beat up (or just win) their league, then we'll (The SGV) be impressed.

I think we all now and agree the the best player and running back is Damien's Uche(cuche) Nwamu. No one can stop him and his 560 squat!!

Gotta love this guy who does his home work and backs up his points with those irritating things called facts! Bluorca you're a homer without condition and a football aficiando of the highest caliber! lol

Okay here's some homework. Break it down to preseason and league and you'll find the nuggets that separate useful information from static stats! Can not wait to see what you'll find!

Best blogger? I'll leave that to the rest of the bloggers!

OG,
When a school has a star player like Harris then entire team benefits from the exposure he brings to the team because he is a superstar right? Right. Someone like Harris does not need the kind of exposure that only Bishop Amat can give. But what happens when you have no player like Harris? If this is the case then you have to rely on your schedule alone or reputation to get any exposure. Scouts would not just randomly show up at a BP/Sierra Vista game unless they were given a reason to. Amat belongs to the Pac-5 conference. 13 out of the LAT's top 25 schools are from the Pac-5. Thats over half man. When you play in the Pac-5 or play higher caliber teams you not only get the exposure your own team generates but also the exposure the other team generates as well. In other words, the stronger your schedule the stronger the probability that a scout might sniff out a couple of your players. Ya follow me?

Now I made a table comparing various valley teams up above in an earlier post. Lets take a look at how strong Baldwin Park's competition was last year. Oh wait! I didnt include it! BP's opponents went 43w and 63l. In my opinion, thats pretty poor competition. Now take a look at Amat's competition, and keep in mind that Amat played and beat Glendora,Charter Oak, and Damien last year and this is not typical at all save Damien. Amat's opponents are usually more difficult like this year. The difference is obvious....BP's level of competition is no where on the same planet as Amats. How in the world is BP gonna get exposure without someone like Harris on their team? The answer? They more than likely wont.

And I havent even started talking about reputation. It would boggle your mind if you knew how many scouts are going to show up at the Amat/Notre Dame or the Amat/Loyola game. It does not matter what record these schools have because the scouts are gonna show up simply because these are HUGE games. Amat has already faced 3 teams that boasted three Div.1 recruits at the RB position. THAT'S REAL COMPETITION! THATS REAL EXPOSURE!

Why in God's good earth would Johnny C transfer to CO? Charter Oak doesnt have a better program than Amat. CO was destroyed by Amat the last two years in a row. Why do you think CO didnt reschedule Amat??? Something tells me there were other matters at hand that have absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the Amat program.

go west covina bulldogs.....

Remember, Nico is only 15 years old.. look at what he's doin to these kids who are bigger, stronger and older than him. What do the others have to show for it ? I'll tell you what, non of those kids have half the tallent that he does at 15.

Danny out,

if westco played md again they would get there buts kicked even worse then the first time it was week 1 and after what i saw friday i was not impressed 19 point lead and coughed it up keep in mind monrovia had a td or what should of been a td in first half and the guy dropped it and also the secondary for monrovia was horrible those kids dont even no how to defend aganist the pass it mad me sick.I well give wallace credit he showed up for half a game and aram whats this THE DRIVE omg.

OG - well put!

If an athlete is good, the scouts will find you, regardless of who you play for or at what school.

The abvoe list of kids, are truly good athlete and have a future in football. Keep your grades up, and keep working hard.

Aram, keep an eye on Nico Barbone. He's going to be an exciting player in this valley!!

I go with Wallace, he had a tough second half with Monrovia, but every time he got the ball there was two or three guys on him, He showed what he could do in the first half & also against Mater Dei & Baldwin park.

I am voting for the young stud from San Dimas; Nico Barbone. He grids out the tough yards!

I saw him last week against D1 Cater, and he is going to be a great one and I understand he's only a 10th grader!

Hey, BA 24/7

I am sure Johnny C is glad to leave AMAT, better coaching at CO, put a much better program

BA 24/7

Nico Barbone is only 15 years old and doing some pretty great things on a football field. Its a real honor to him that he is even being compared to the older kids!

Wow, whats going to happen when he's a Senior.

San Dimas has played up in every pre-season game except Gladstone this year. Against D1 Carter this kid ran for 125+ last week. He could play in any program in this valley and start. Ask some of the boys at Glendora, Damien, Bointa, who have played with him!

If Harris is your #1 choice, I guess he's in the same league as this young man!

nico barbone is only a sophmore.

Aram, it would be nice to highlight the lineman. I know Amat tweaks your nerves but there are some good lineman on this team who might get overlooked. Starting with 6-5 Jr. D.Austin and 6-2 Jr. TE J. Silva. Both players are making a strong contribution on offensive & defensive. There not superstars but the potential is there!
Of course there are other lineman in the area who deserves attention but these players have stuck out through the first three games.

BA 24/7, what added exposure are you talking about? Harris can go to any college of his choice.
What would going to Amat do? This isnt a knock on Amat, just a question.

Why should Harris have gone to Amat for better exposure? He has like 30+ offers, that is exposure enough. Heggins did a good job of getting him his yards last year so he did not have to run it up this year. Amat is now second fiddle to locals unless they start winning soon and fast with DI competition, otherwise they'll be watching Baldwin Park in the first round of the playoffs wishing they went to BP to get "More playing time..." There are backups at Amat who could be stars for their local school and possibly have offers, but everyone keeps trying to ressucitate the Amat of old, it just aint happening anytime soon.

STRENGTH OF SCHEDULES FOR 2005-2006 OVER 10 REGULAR SEASON GAMES...
(Does not include playoff opponents because not every team made the playoffs)

School...............Opponent's Wins-Losses

West Covina(7-4).........57-53 Average
Los Altos(8-4)..............64-50 Above Average
Charter Oak(8-4).........56-51 Average
Glendora(7-4)..............67-43 Impressive
Chino Hills(11-1)..........46-59 Very Weak
Damien(6-5)................61-47 Above Average
Covina(11-2)...............33-70 Extremely Weak
Tesoro(13-1)...............52-57 Weak
South Hills(12-2)..........64-50 Above Average
Rowland(9-3)...............60-52 Average
Bishop Amat(6-4).........72-46 Most Impressive

You are right there Aram, Amat cannot get them all. We still get some tho. Come and see our Sophmores and Freshman teams play. You are wrong tho, I am a true AMAT fan....Tough for parents to cough up that tuition $$$, so lots of the talent around the area stay home and attend their local public schools. That whole list at Amat would bring us championships over any OC school. That is fantasy tho, I still like our chances Next year. This year is our transition year....Amat should at least be in your top five this week...

Aaron Harris- Nope, should have to LA to WIN, and to have better exposure.

BA 24/7

I thought a true Amat fan would say all of them should've gone to Amat for better exposure. Hahahahaha. You can't have them all, or even half of them, or even a quarter of them anymore.

Nico Barbone plays against weak competition should not even be on this list.

Gaise could have had a big year but put a fork in him for now, and maybe til the end of the year.

Wallace is my second choice

Johnny Crespo should have stayed at Amat but he got impatient with us. His choice but still a good back but not number one.

Ira Thomas is a recruit for Los Altos.

First choice to Harris. He is the real deal...but he should have transfered to Amat to get that added exposure.

i think its william wallace,i knew he was good but i didnt think he should be mentioned with the top running backs, until i saw him play against mater dei, that game proved to me that he can run against the best of them.

Great to see the glamour positions getting alot of attention but...

How about the guys in the trenches! (BOTH SIDES)

That's where ALL games are won and lost...so what gives?

Who are the best Offensive and Defensive LINEMEN in the Valley?

With all the great Quarterbacks and Running Backs in the Valley...Someone's blocking!

How about Defensive Linemen? What's the deal Aram? Just wondering if other bloggers could nominate the best Linemen they've seen. Please give some credit to the forgotten warriors! thanks

we all know who the top running back is and that is harris for sure