POSTGAME: Talk your smack or cry me a river ...

D1 means nothing to me, as well as a lot of people.

Yes they did lose to Western, and I am personally appalled. I'm sure Amat, despite there lofty tradition has been subject to "bad" losses as well. There isn't much you can do w/out a decent running game. Yes, SHHS also lost, but in a down year almost beat a team, that you almost lost to. WE AREN'T SO FAR APART.

Dan,
Losing Dominique Gaise was a big hit on Amats team and still is....look at our ground game in last nites loss to Carson....Take Wallace out of your backfield for five games and see how your rushing totals will drop....but we won the RC game with a all around offense and defensive game....your starters should have respect for your coach and the team and not get caught off campus screwing around...that costs you guys not injuries...A Amat WC game would not be close even if both teams at full strenght....our Oline would push your small Dline around and you guys would be chasing Gaise all nite....

Jeremy,

Give me a break dude...our league play is D1 teams that would spank you guys week in and week out......You guys lost to Western???? WTF...Oh yeah a Amat matchup is what you really want....but you did not answer my question on where this team would be without Castaneda, Seanez and Maciel????.....well they were there last nite and you still lost.....

Amats loss last nite:
No excuses because I win and lose with this team to the end. A loss is a loss and we did lose to a good Carson team. Were they beatable? Yes but again look at our rushing yards...with D. Gaise it is a different game, rest assure of that. We were in that game at all times but could not get it done. But that is competitive play for you...We still would beat you locals but we prefer to play at the top level..this is what measures your team......I do give WC a small amount of credit playing MD....SHHS and LA get out of D7 and step it up..then run your smack but for now keep losing to those Western teams and RC teams...now what is the arguement between SHand WC on SH playing RC closer then WC.....you guys battle that debate out.....

BA 24/7 the injuries & suspensions in West Co's case hit more severly & had a much bigger impact than Amats injuries, Amat did not have as many starters miss the game & Amat is deeper than West Co therefore the Talent drop off from 1st to 2nd string is not as big, to compare our loss to Rancho to your win over them is apples & oranges cause Amat was much closer to putting out their best team against them than West Co
did. Till West Co's first team proves me wrong, I'll stick to my opinion that this year,
West Co vs Amat would be a close game.

Jeremy..

Good Job.. Right ON!

BA 24/7
If you were in D7, that would be because CIF placed Amat there due to the standards that they incorporate. You guys wouldn't be the force you claim to be... you can't even win your own league. Our rings keep shining!!!

Amat doesn't play week in and week out in D1. Explain your pre-season. What D1 school you talking about?? I see only five league games in D1 as set up by CIF standards...

You only beat St. Paul by 3, got your butts kick by Valencia, Hart, and slipped by RC by 10 with there injuries! Power House... think again!

Dan you talk about your injuries and missing players against Rancho C....we Amat, also had injuries and missing players...your point does not stick......

SSHS...you can have that ring and put it where the sun dont shine....had Amat been in that week D7 league we would be wearing all those low level rings, but sorry we prefer to earn them at the highest level of competition..

Jeremy, You do produce good talent and teams but play the big dogs of D1 week in and week out and see where you stand and are measured. Plus you guys prey on our players to jump ship to help you guys out....where would that team be without Castaneda, Seanez and Maciel????most likely losing to western tonite if they are not there.

Cub, all the prise to your Loyola teams, you guys earned our respect for you are our D1 catholic Brothers, good job..see you guys Nov. 10th.

All this talk about SHHS. See what I mean? Amat even avoids Los Altos in conversation!!

p.s. I'd like to see you dog South Hils when they AREN'T down. Both LA and South Hills have produced very good teams, and talent.

Pat Haden-
Yes, a former Amat QB I personally admire. I am a life-long Ram fan. Here are some other SGV alum that were no push overs. Rob Hertel, Dennis Sproul, and Dylan Aquino who no doubt would be playing in the NFL, if not for a career ending nuerological problem while at UCLA. What do they all have in common??

I've read with interest MyNameIsCub because I happen to admire the school. I played against and coached players who graduated from Loyola. Every present or former Loyola player I've ever spoken with has comported himself with dignity and confidence. After a rigorous application process they are interviewed individually and selected from 1000 applicants. Less than 300 are accepted!Many make tremendous sacrifices of their time to attend Loyola and upon completion of four rigorous years of academic excellence do not come across like an uneducated ass.
Speaking ill of Coach Grady after 35 years of dedication betrays your involvement, on any level, with Loyola. You sir are a fraud!

Hello everyone,

Well, BA 24/7 amatlover, etc... you can't compare to LA, SHHS, WCHC, and all those you mention that are on another division, but, hey-ohhhh... It seems we do have some comparison here - how about those MIGHTY CUBS!!! ring and all Bey-bee! Check it out... I found this for you:

During Coach Grady’s term as leader of the Cubs football program, he attained 269 wins, 16 league championships, two CIF Division I Championships and four CIF Division I runner-up finishes. Over the past 17 seasons alone, Loyola advanced to the CIF Division I playoff semi-finals, or beyond, 11 times. Spanning his 29-year career as head coach, the Cubs participated in the CIF Division I playoffs 28 times, including the last 24 consecutive seasons.

Then he went and quit in march 2005 because after 35 years, he felt tired... Well, Boo, Efing Hooo... So, what do the MIGHTY CUBS go out and do.... Oh, nothing... Just another CIF DIV 1 CHAMPIONSHIP under the belt to teach Grady a lesson for skipping out on us!!!! Oh, yeah!

MyNameIsCub AAAaahh-OOOootttt!

you do bring up a valid point that us Amat faithful started it, but the bleeding has to stop somewhere. I was probably one of the guily ones jumping the gun and talk smak about our coach program etc.. but hey, I say we need to stop the bleeding all-together. All of us amat faithful may have jumped the gun on this years team and we may not have. Only time will tell. I say we let this year and next year play out and give the coach and his staff a chance to prove himself one way or another. No need for mor stats proving this and that about who is can beat who in the SGV and what the points spread was when amat played a number a valley teams and won. The fact is they one and they have proven all they need to prove. No Amat has not won a ring in the past 10yrs, but all we can do is see how each season plays out and hope it gets bette and gets taht much closer to another ring. SHHS I aplaude you and South Hills for winning a ring in the past 5yrs. Congradulations. W.T.F. does it have to do with amat winning one in a completely different division? not a damn thing. All it proves is that you were successfull at winning a championship in Division 6-7 or whatver. Was South Hills better than amat that year? We will never know because they didnt play. Bottom line is all the comparing of past and present years and wat could, should, and would happen needs to cease. End of story.

I could be wrong but the way it looks right now, Los Altos & Amat looks like it would be a good game, like I said before, we'll see how they do against St. Francis, 12 & 7 against a team doesn't guarantee a win especially this year as
Amat appears to be average by their standards and St.Francis appears to be better than their standard teams they put out.
I keep seeing these little digs on West Co's loss to Rancho C.and some supporters of other schools assuming the Bulldogs are overrated this year cause the Rancho C. loss. Well what can I say, the Dawgs lost, you have the right to assume what you want, till they prove it on the field there ain't much I can say.
Now for my real feelings,Rancho C. didn't beat the real Bulldogs, four of our starters did not play a single down in the Rancho game,[don't tell me injuries don't matter] all together there were 7 positions that we had subs in cause 2 of those starters go both ways and our star running back was out for half the game, which was the time the Cougars scored their tds.
Rancho looked like a good team but not impressive & if we're healthy we would beat them, we also would have an easier time with Monrovia if we had the three starters that were missing for that game, thats my story & I'm sticking to it, I think that West Co will have most of their missing starters back this week,
except for Anthony Ramos, & I heard Fati Shorty will be playing with a cast on his hand, there is plenty of season left & I still think they can be the best team in the valley, hopefully these boy's will start proving it on the field, till then, go ahead & have a field day all you doubters.

SHHS

As far as Bogan being a great coach is concerned SHHS vs. Claremont, 'nuff said! I will give credit where credit is due though and that's the players, past and present, from SHHS that put in the time, effort and sacrifice and "earned" those Championship rings. Even though yours are division 5,or 6 what does it matter? Oaks Christian's rings were what Div 9,10, or whatever. A championship is a championship. Enjoy the Bogan ribbing, he's due after all the rings. Great school, SHHS, godson was a Xcountry champion there as was his brother. I just can't get used to the parents wearing the varsity's running suits! in the '90's! That was different.

SD-Lancer

You bring up a very valid point. Problem is if you look back at the earliest blogs- It was the Amat faithful who were hardest on their Head Coach, coaching staff, AD, play selection and personnel decisions. Although they kept up a good facade of propping up their love for the school and current players they really were the ones who started the blue and gold bashing. (I know the B.S. about "your standards" and "you'll never understand" or "when you accomplish something" mantras but it's hard to find sympathy for people who's best messages are cannabalistic in nature.

Good luck against Carson, two past champions battling (CITY vs, CIF) takes me back to better days!

Attn: 24/7 and all Amat supporters

I havnt been blogging on here for this exact reason. All these Amat downers and trash talkers are just tryin to provoke a response and its working. All of us Amat alumn's know what needs to happen for our team to succeed. If I remember correctly, Aram posted a blog about a week ago asking us to not bash each others programs. I know as Amat Lancer's we dont need to stoop to there level. Im suggesting that we all blog to each other and ignore the hoop-lah and B.S. that is being said by other people who dont know W.T.F. they are talkin about. Its only egging them on by responding, so simply just ignore it. Its that simple.

24/7

At least we have a ring! Dream on!

Down year for Amat this year and second to cellar last year, maybe two-three years away. Get used to the basement..
Face it dude, Amat is not the program it once was...

Bogan is ten times the coach Verti is-- Get real! We play in our league based on CIF and you play in your league based on CIF! Where are your ring(S)?? ANSWER: ELESWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's better to ignore the 126pts to 31pts trashing the SGV took against Amat. It's also better to ignore the victories against MD and the Cubs and mention that we were in the cellar.
Having trouble understanding your point. Is it that we can't play DivI or that you can? Maybe if we played in your league how many rings would SHHS, LA, CO have? My guess is that's the last ring you'll EVER see!
Good luck against Rancho, need a game plan?

SHHS...
Glad you are proud of that D7 ring won against a Jr. All American type Orange team last year....wear that ring proudly and keepp it in that safety deposit box because your team is thru!...what is there with that 2-3 record and the punking you are going to take against Rancho Cucamonga. Which by the way will say "we beat WC ans SH but Bisop Amat beat us.....take note Slover is the best player you guys got.....Dont be too surprised if Walnut gives you a good game this year because you are not going to beat Rowland....it is time to face the facts that SH is not what it used to be in D7 and now must divert that attention to Amat...If Amat is having a down year and they very well could be, Amat will be back and up to snuff in no time while SH declines to the Walnut and Nogales stage.....Dont be mad because your team is not what it once was.....Blame Bogan for letting LA recruit Ira Thomas before you guys..........SH is done....

Dan,
First off Mater Dei has moved to the new Trinity league and does not play Bisop Amat so do your homework first. Second our record against St. Frances is 12-7-1...how do you figure this. If Los Altos barely hung on to beat a rebuilding depleated SH team how do you figure they can hang with a D1 team like Amat. LA is out there playing Western this week?....why such a hard team on your schedule.....Los A got out of that Damien game just by a hair....No game is easy on Amat schedule and Maxpreps has them losing to carson this friday which very well could be and yes a loss to St. francis is always possible. It is a year when Amat may or may not have fielded a great team and everyone around the SGV wants to measure up to this team why? because it is not the highpower horse Amat always has so it easy to compare now...... All you Amat bashers amaze me in how your team would stack up against Amat.....but wait when Amat is up and going to CIF and is winning (not necesssarily championships) but just winning you local schools , parents and students are at our games and jumping on our bandwagon.....then when the going gets tough on Amat then it is time to jump off the bandwagon and start comparing your school to Amat....LA is not that good this year....they will fall early.........Check our home attendance and what our 50/50 splits are...we have some of the most loyal fans in the SGV....I said most because bandwagoners do not count.

Hey Good Luck

Amat finished second to the cellar last year! And this year, will probably won't be any better!

You brag how you beat Mater Dei and Loyola last year. We'll Loyola has the ring and AMAT??? Where is your ring(s) in the last decade?

You play in the league that is assigned to you by CIF which is determined by certain factors. Wheather you like it or not, we all have to deal! Maybe Amat just cannot compete in this league anymore and WIN! You AMat fans or BS bloggers just continue to whin and cry and brag that your the best!

We'll put up or shut up? No Ring(s), losing program, run down school, new AD who's nuts, playing down during pre-season, so I guess the tradition lives on! LOL

Hey sicko,
chew on this:

Bishop Amat 04-05 Football Season vs. San Gabriel Valley schools
Bishop Amat (90 pts)
Glendora, Charter Oak, Damien (30 pts)

Bishop Amat 05-06 Football Season vs. San Gabriel Valley Schools
Bishop Amat (126 pts)
St. Paul, Glendora, Charter Oak, Damien (31 pts)

Bishop Amat (56 pts)
Mater Dei, Loyola (Div I CIF Champs) (21 pts)

Bishop Amat 06-07 Football Season vs. San Gabriel Valley Schools
Bishop Amat (53 pts)
St. Paul. Rancho Cucamonga (40 pts)

Let's see that's BA 9 wins and SGV 0. I see your point. Maybe that's why Amat didn't schedule Los Altos ,South Hills, West Covina, Monrovia, Upland,and Bonita.

Good luck at Loyola. Although you might want to ask someone what's a "decade", much less a "couple of decades". Wish I could help but MAXPREPS only goes back 3 years. Anyone know what Bishop Amat has accomplished in the last "couple of decades"?

OK Mr bigger fish to fry,[BA 24/7] lets see how you do against St Francis, if Amat is so far above the rest of the SGV then they should have an easy time with St Francis, if the game is close then I would say Amat isn't much higher than some of the locals ,if Amat looses then I say some of the local teams could probably beat Amat this year. I use St Frances cause they seem
comparable to the upper teams in the area, maybe a small notch better.
I will admit that most years Amat would beat most or maybe all local teams, but this year there is a lot of talent in the area so lets see
what they do with St Frances, if they win easy then I will concede to your argument that Amat is still way above the rest of our teams.Also If Mater dei blows away Amat then all these high opinions on Amat loose all credibility with me.

Amat can schedule all the D-1 teams they want, but if amat can't compete at that level, then what! keep losing! I feel sorry for the fans, parents that have to endure all this. D-1,D-2,....etc It is over rated like Amat. I took my kid out BA, guess where we are at?

Dear Joe Amat,

Got the letterman jacket & rings to prove it, under coach Grady none the less. Why you gotta be hating man... You say your point and I say mine but, always like an true lancer wanna get your word in last... I wasn't dissing anyone, JA. That's ok, because my last word is CIF CHAMPS! I understood what you were saying, but can't I also have something to say? 2 + 2 makes four, but sometimes, you can squeeze a 5 from it.
All I got is CUB LOVE for everyone, yes even for the rebuilding lancers... that's what a good jesuit education gave me... reason, acceptance and love for all creatures, great and small.

Oh, one thing for the Catholic school farm guy:

You telling me that public school kids don't move or use other people's addresses to get to go to the school of their choice.. COME ON! At least we're honest and divulge where we live even if it is Palos Verdes to Normandie Ave. each morning, we don't lie.

PS: Kudos for sickofamat -

MyNameIsCub AAAhhh-OOOooottt

Fact of the matter is, the answer is somewhere in between. Amat is the traditional power of the SGV, there is no doubt about that. They do step up and play a schedule that preps them for Division 1 play.

But, and lets be honest Amat backers, there are teams in the SGV (Los Altos, South Hills) in the past couple of years who could have played with and perhaps beaten some of them. So why not schedule them? At least one game against a local team like Los Altos who could give them a game?

There the answer is simple... a possible loss against Los Altos could mean a kid who is looking to play in the SGV suddenly looks at Los Altos instead of focusing on Amat.

I mean who cares if Amat gets spanked by Valencia right? Not like many kids are gonna commute that far to go to school in La Puente.

Hey Sicko,

I guess you are a D6 D7 follower and what you need to understand is when the local team in the SGV step up and commit to play their season at a D1 level then they can talk all the Anti-Amat garbage they want...we like to play the best in the Harts Valencias Rancho Cucamonga Chaminades Loyolas.......not the WC SH WALNUT NOGALES ROWLAND BP etc.........that is not going to get us ready for league beating up on D6 teams.....so does that mean a D6 team should schedule a D9 or a Eight man football team to get them ready for their league play.......??? Come on Bishop Amat has Bigger fish to fry in League...makes no sense to play lower level teams......

Amat people should stop whining about ratings or whatever. What have they done in the past couple decades, nothing! As for Robles being a 3-year varsity starter, how many T.D.'s last year 3,4. Where is he now? Why doesn'Amat play some of these so-called weak D-6 teams instead of fantasizing all the time! Talk is cheap until you play ball.

I admit I'm biased Bluorca but I think all three skill players + the starting CB would have been worth a 20 pt. turnaround against Rancho C., remember that Mater Dei wasn't able to make the adjustments at halftime to stop these kids so I don't think Rancho would have either. As far as the second string QB situation
Rancho has had a QB problem since the summer passing league, the whole worry in their program this year according to internet post that I've read on other sites is how they were going to get the ball to their outstanding core of recievers, cause the QB's didn't seem to be stepping up consistently. Our line did fine against Rancho on the inside, we just couldn't stop them from getting around the corners, cause once again we didn't have our speed that night.
We'll see how my theory holds when they return.
On another point, I heard that it was Coach Maggiorie that suspended the two kids from the Rancho game last Friday, not the school, I heard that the kids were caught being off campus at the wrong time so the coach didn't let them suit up. Even with a big game on the line its good to see the Coach do the right thing. A job well done coach.

Many times comparative scores can give you a pretty good idea of how a game can turn out, but there are also plenty of times that you can be mislead by them, an example that I used before
was the Damien vs Claremount game where Damien blew out Claremont 56 to 21, then you look at South Hills who barely beat Claremont 9 to 4, then you take Los Altos who squeeked by South Hills by 1 point in the last second. So according to comparative scores it looks like Claremount ,Los Altos & S.Hills are pretty evenly matched, and Damien looks to be way above the other three, but instead Damien looses to Los Altos, sometimes its all out of wack.

I think comparative scores are relevant when your talking about most high school football teams. But I believe they are only relevant at this level. Because each team is so diverse in level of skill from player to player and team to team it becomes possible to predict with a high success the winner of a game. It really depends on other factors such as the balance of talent between the three teams in question. . For example, I think it would safe to assume that if Amat was to bomb St. Francis 50-7, Amat would be able to beat Los Altos or Damien for that matter. The results of these games would probably be Amat routs. YES, it is possible that some miracle would happen but the probability is that Amat would win big. And this outcome would more than likely be held true. Problems arise when you attempt to go further than this however. Problems also arise when there is more of a balance of talent between the teams in question. The outcome of a Amat vs. W.C. game is impossible to predict because there are too many other factors to consider like injuries, and 2nd string QB's, etc. But because we know that Amat probably has more skilled players at more positions and roster depth than West Covina, we could make a loose call on the outcome of a game. We can talk all day about the skilled players but it is the ones we dont read about in the papers that make it possible for the skilled players to play so skillfully. This is were Amat has the advantage.

As for the comparison of college football, that is a different matter because ALL those colleges have scholarship level players. In a sense, each university is like a mini-all star team. The balance of power is more equal than lets say Oaks Christian vs. Bassett. This is possible in certain contests or leagues at the high school level as well but it is rare. A perfect example was the Serra League last year. Amat,MD,Loyola,SJB,and SM karate punched it out with each other and records meant absolutely nothing. But the important thing to remember is that ALL these teams had somethings in common..they ALL had talent, they ALL had players drawn from all over the southland, and they ALL had a genuine desire to humilitate each other because they are ALL hardcore Catholic football farms! On paper, these teams looked a lot like each other as far as talent was concerned....just like mini-universites.

Once you start talking about the NFL, every team is like a mirror of each other making it impossible to predict ANYTHING and thats were the phrase " in the NFL, anyone can beat anyone any given sunday" comes from. This holds true for most colleges unless you start talking about the #2 ranked team in the country playing UNLV. But once you get to the high school level, predicting the outcome of most games by comparative scoring becomes not only more possible but also much more accurate. In my opinion, and in the vast majority of cases, the phrase "any high school can beat any high school any given friday" is not only naive but simply false.

BA 24/7 Didn't Haden play HS football.i know it was along time ago but so was Cuccia. Look it up in the AMAT record books. He was the only 3 year starter on varsity till Robles tied that record. When he got to the pros the rub on him was that he was to short for the pros. Look it up.

BA 24/7 Didn't Haden play HS football.i know it was along time ago but so was Cuccia. Look it up in the AMAT record books. He was the only 3 year starter on varsity till Robles tied that record. When he got to the pros the rub on him was that he was to short for the pros. Look it up.

How tall was Doug Flutie? Didn't he win the Heisman? Played 20 years of professional football and well you...the rest ...of the...story.

Apologies to Paul Harvey!

Amat 73 get your head out OYA.......Pat went on to play pro football..we are talking HS short QB's here........Pat was in no way 5'6 or 5'8...

Hey BA 24/7 On the suject of short quarterbacks I just have two words for you.
Pat Haden

Hey MynameIsCub,

You must not be a Loyola grad, because you didn't follow that post too well. I was actually helping your argument by saying that it doesn't matter who beats who and comparing scores (ie: Amat over Loyola)because it is the games that count that matter the most. You going off sounds like you are just another myopic clone like Mike looking for the first opportunity to run some smack without thinking it thru.

I'll repost it for you to re-read s-l-o-w-l-y so you can comprehend

"....Comparitive scores are not really an indicator. There is no "transitive property" (remember your algebra?) in sports.

Last year Cal Poly San Luis Obispo beat South Dakota St who beat UC Davis who beat Stanford who beat Arizona who destroyed UCLA.

So Cal Poly SLO is better than UCLA - right.

But no, Amat people know it doesn't work that way after last seasons wins over MD and Loyola - with no playoffs to show for it while Loyola wins it all.

That's why we play the games - and then you have to win the ones that matter !..."

Yes - you are out !

He is not 5'9",

Ron Cuccia was listed at this height in the programs and yes some of it is fabricated. I played for Wilson in the early 70's with Tony Herandez, Rick Hollenbeck and Henry Longoria (who son plays for LA).....among others. I do not knock a small QB if given such talents as Rons. What I was stating is Castaneda is no Ron. Sure he is a talented short QB but he does not measure up to a Ron Cuccia. Cuccia will forever be the main Ledgend of Wilson and this includes Randy Garcia and Rick Hollenbeck. We all talk about recruiting etc. and back then what made Ron special was the fact that Vic Cuccia and Auggie Lambert were out getting guys from the Roosevelt area (Derek Daniels) and the private school area Pierre Herber (Pius X). Wilson was recruiting no doubt about it and what drew kids to play there was the opportunity to play with the great Ron Cuccia. All the respect in the world goes out to Ron and what his teams accomplished to put Wilson on the Map. The only thing I was trying to state that mentioning Castanedas name in the same sentence with Rons is not comparing apples to apples.....I have yet to see a short QB do what Ron Cuccia did. Jemal Holloway was not bad either for being short. off the subject here but is that Wilson HS in the background of that Nike commercial with Jimmy Johnson and Don Shula and Brian Erlacher?...

Lancers vs. Bulldogs

I believe now that with both teams at full strength, this would probably be a closer one that we Amat fans would like to admit. Next year, however, will be a different story all together. Gaise and Wallace play both ways and are very important to each team. I do believe that West Covina would have played a better game if they were at full strength againts RC. I have my doubts about WC reversing a 20-0 defeat though. RC has the brains to make the proper adjustments if WC was at full strength. In other words, the defense WC saw would not be the same one if WC had everyone. And if its true about RC using a 2nd string QB againts WC then I am left to wonder what the score would have been if they had their starting QB in. RC's entire offense is centered around their starting QB and their 2 Div-1 recruit receivers. I believe it would be safe to possibly assume that the score would have been more of a rout. Amat must have some talent of their own if they were able to beat this RC team at full strength. I think Amat fans need to take pride in the fact that this rag-tag group of Lancers and coaching staff are sooooo young and yet they beat this RC team. And they beat them without Gaisie.

As far as the WC vs. Mater Dei game is concerned I think that WC did an awesome job againts the Monarchs. But I also stated in an earlier blog that I was positive that MD was ill prepared for this game as well. Because I believe that MD underestimated WC and the fact that WC scored no offensive TDs in the game, I truly believe that if these two teams met again this friday with both teams at full strength, MD would rout WC. As for these substitutions during the game by MD I would have to know what kind of subs were going on. I can tell you that I personally have never seen ANY high caliber team that Amat plays, including MD, pull ANY starter for ANY amount of time. WELL... Maybe once or twice for an equipment check or perhaps some air and a quick 1 play rest to catch their breath after a big play, etc. These kids are in top physical condition. The kids at Mater Dei train like they are the Oregon Ducks. It is rare that any kid of any of these schools would sit out for more than a play to catch their breath. If MD was pulling any starters for any COMPLETE series, especially the skilled positions, I would say that MD was definitely not giving WC their all. I can guarantee you that MD pulled NO starters for ANY amount of time when they played Mission Viejo and Edison.

Lancers vs. Conquerors

Los Altos has some severe talent on that team. They will murder everyone else on their schedule this year. But this talent was shut down by St. Francis though. Los Altos was only able to score 1 offensive TD and that was only half the length of the field because of a SF turnover. SF can play some D. I would wait until Amat plays SF until I said anything further. But yes, Amat usually has and plays some HUGE O and D lines. Thats a norm in the PAC-5.

As for the rest of the SGV, the only other team to give Amat some competition would be Damien. If Amat beats St. Francis, my opinion of this would change however. Amat should be #1 in the Valley if they beat St. Francis.

Its nothing new for the other SGV teams to step up every so often and claim that they could beat Amat. They usually wait until they have a very good team to start doing this. This is one of those years because there is a ample supply of talent in the valley. I think we as Amat fans need to focus more and what others need to realize and respect is the fact that even though a couple of these teams could punch it out with the Lancers this year, Amat would beat any of these schools 8-9 times out of 10 years. Why you ask? Because Amat competes in the Pac-5 againts Pac-5 caliber schools. They've been doing this for years...right here..in La Puente! But there are a lot of people that dont know any better. There are many that do not know what its like to compete againts Mater Dei,Loyola,Servite, etc, every year. They judge our teams by our record without taking our strength of schedule into account. There are actually people out there that think that Amat is afraid to play Los Altos. I say let them think what they want to think. We beat Mater Dei AND the Div 1 champ Loyola last year but let them continue to believe that Amat football is not what it used to be. We are still Lancers. And we are the pride of the San Gabriel Valley because we compete againts the pride of Orange County or the pride of Los Angeles. Mighty are the men that wear blue and gold...

John: Mendrun a Flanker? No pass protection and he trys to make a play regardless. Don't see too many QBs running to make yardage when they can't find a receiver or are about to be sacked if they don't move out - most throw it out of bounds and forget God gave them two legs to run with when needed.

Ron Cuccia was the best high school QB I ever played against or seen play. Even to this day! Mendrun included, although Mendrun might be top 3 I've seen! They're different for sure but Ron was a master of winning against all odds! Ask Jefferson, Washington and everyone that he played against.

He was short, fast ,tough,wieghed about 145 and a true winner! He made great plays and just refused to lose! After his "fame" grew every team "bountied" him. He'd take hellacious hits and helped the defender up! After a while you'd see the D-Line shaking their heads. That said, he played with a great WR Steve Martinez, that just caught EVERYTHING! And the Defensive Player of the Year Sergio Villasenor! (played college ball for Pat Dye's Wyoming)Yup him!

I played against Ron Cuccia and that great Wilson team in a passing league game at ELAC. Actually it was the last game I QBed! I threw 5 interceptions that day, I knew who and when to throw it but no arm strenght! LB Ron Garcia got me for three! My coaches that day were Rollinson and Ruedaflores and as great as they were they couldn't perform that miracle! Having said that!

The comprison was not to Ron as a player as much as the dismissal that a "short" QB couldn't win a Championship. I'm 5'10 1/2 and I looked at the top of his head! No offense Ron! See him for yourself, he works with QBs @ Bonita HS sometimes.

Read the whole message and stop trying to pile on. Hell I take enough garbage backing Amat's legacy in SGV I don't need that nonsense from someone who doesn't even know him, played against him or talked to him.

Man AMAT, BA 24/7, and any other Amat fan chill out, and you wonder why? By the way when and what did you play? Just asking please don't get offended might make it easier to understand is all.

Just want to let everyone know that the LA game vs St. Francis was not as close as it appears. LA's TD's were off ov turnovers by the St. Francis offence and one was a 70 yard int return. Just think if the Refs were any better that game would have been a blowout. Amat fans dont be too happy St. Francis is going to own YOUR house too.

Ba 24/7,
a foolish assesment, Amat beats Rancho by 10 & Rancho beats West Co by 20 so are you assuming Amat can spank West co by 30? Amat loosing Gaise is not the same as West Co not suiting up 2 out of 3 speed guys plus their starting CB,[who is also pretty fast] McBride fills in just fine for Gaise and has done just fine. Amat has the depth so the drop off is not that big between the starters & the replacements.
But as for the West Co team that started in week 1 against MD they would hang fine with Amats
team this year. Also, this BS you come up with that Mater Dei held off on the scoring & pulled there starters is pure BS, their starters played
the vast majority of the game and were in there
the whole 4th qtr., that lie is getting old, surly they substituted throughout the game, but that is to their advantage as it kept the starters fresh.
Imagine if Amat had three guy's with speed & running skills like Gaise on the offense at the same time. Thats what West Co has when they have all their skill starters on offense,Tremendous speed.
When all three of these guys are in there at the same time Mater dei couldn't focus on 1 or 2 of them cause the third one was there ready to make a big play as they did all night. You don't seem to realise that West Co hasn't fielded this team since the Mater dei game. Thats why Mater Dei had a hard time with West Co.
and thats what kept the game close, not this pulling the starters BS. Rancho beat us cause we didn't have our speed, the one speed guy that did play got hurt early & missed half the game.
These guys also are among the starting defensive backs & could have stayed with the Rancho passing game that burnt our inexperience replacement players, they also would have come up to help with the outside runs that Rancho had.
If the Bulldogs could hang with Mater Dei they could probably hang with Amat this year, last year no, but this year I bet they could. Now lets give you a taste of your own medicine, Lets see how close you get to Mater dei when you play them.

Cub, you are absolutely right. The teamwork and leadership skills, not to mention character, that most of these kids take away from their high school career will matter a lot more in their lives than the score of any games. (of course, having a CIF ring to wear is always nice, lol) And for many it will mean another 4 years of playing, and a great education.

Okay Joe,

back to reality. You know, that is true. Who gives a flying F about wins and loses. Isn't this game supposed to build self esteem and character? Why is everyone gung ho on who's goona win what? There is only one winner at a time, so for the hundreds of other loosers, what is there left but to predict, complain and pout about "not in full strength" "made mistakes" "rebuilding year" and so on... Let the kids play and whoever wins well that's great. How many of these are going to the NFL anyway? What we all forget is that its a game and nothing more. Keeps kids outta trouble (well, most of them) and gives them something to look forward to instead of homework all the time. You win or loose, what matters is that you played the game and you played it with heart..and had fun.

MynameIsCub AAAhhh-OOOoottt

look the bottom line is we will find out whos who in the next couple weeks,believe me i dont take anything personal from no one this blog this is just for fun im having the time of my life watching my kid and his friends kick ass and in the event they lose than they lose but i know they will fight to the end and when its over then it starts over again in college.Right now there is no best team in the sgv, all the so called top teams all lost at least one game and rowland hasnt played anyone, at least they say so all i have to say is good luck all its going to be fun.

Hello Joe Amat,

let me say one thing about your comment that we (Loyola and Amat) are in the same league and you beat us last year

- CIF CHAMPS!

(oops, that's too words)

But anyway, we may be physically in the same league, but not in talent. Admit it. Talk to your shrink and resolve your inner most demons and then you will see that the Lancers are just mediocre at best - young team, coaches - Come on Joe A., give me ten hail marys for that.

MyNameIsCub AAAh-OOOoottt!

Again SHHS what are you even doing here...WOW! big victory over who? thats right Fullerton. You better get those rings on order. Your teams a mess and will continue to slide downhill from here....no CIF this year pal. Your coach does not have the stones to play Amat...I at least give CO their props in trying to play with the Big Dog of the SGV. Also Los Altos how are you suppose to beat us when you have players who once attended Amat. If they were really that good they would have stayed. You will get to CIF only to lose in the Quarter finals. A 5'6" QB is not taking you very far. With our young defense and our so called inexperienced coach and without Gaise Amat would roll you guys down Turnbull Cyn Road. We may even stop at St. Viennys to pray for your limping team after they take a a-- whopping. Also Ron Cuccia of L.A. city Wilson in the late 70's was 5'9" and yes he went undefeated in his whole career there at Wilson including playoffs and 3 City 3A Championships. To try to compare Castaneda to Ron is way our of bounds. Ron Cuccia was like having a coach out there on the field. He and his Dad disected teams at home and in practice. Ron also broke some of Pat Hadens records and his 1978 team made a team quit at halftime and forfeit the rest of the game. It was 63-0 at the half....Castaneda is no Ron Cuccia.

When we faced CO it was something until we blew them out .Then it meant nothing . Also let's wait till the St Frances game before we make judgement. As for SHHS what are you doing in this conversation and please bring on LAHS so we can put that b.s. to rest once and for all.

opps... In the serra League? Passing Leader? Points Leader? Who?

Aram & bluorca can you tell me who is leading the league in passing yardage. (Pac 5 )

Jeremy

Right On!

WHERE ARE YOU BLUORCA?- YOU FRONT RUNNER!!

AMAT WHO...............

Amat supporters: Why do you guys turn every blog discussion about you and your program???

You guys are like a fat chick with an ego problem.

You notice the only fire power in your discussions that you have is NOT about you or your present state, but it's about your competition, and what you used to be.

St.Francis is going to spank your one-dimensional offense, and no defense team. Your team is not that good. Just have some class, and face facts.

Playing Charter Oak proved NOTHING. For starters, everyone knows they chOAK. They don't show up when they need to, or can.
Second, how far did they go in the good ol' DIVISION VI both seasons?? A: eliminated 1st round, and second round respectively.

Therefore you proved nothing!!

Try playing one of the other two valley powers, and at full-strength by the way, NOT in a rebuilding year. Who??? You ask? A: South Hills and . . . . ANSWER: C'mon Amat you know who, the program in the SGV who TRULY rivals you in tradition: LOS ALTOS.

Where were you guys in 2000-04?? and years prior?

Aram,

What's the chance that you get Nisha Guiterrez to come in and do a weekly pick video? She is gorgeous!

Yeah the Aram and Nisha show!!!! eerrrrr maybe just the Nisha pick em show!

Check into that will ya?

Mike the clone........Out!

Aram,

What's the chance that you get Nisha Guiterrez to come in and do a weekly pick video? She is gorgeous!

Yeah the Aram and Nisha show!!!! eerrrrr maybe just the Nisha pick em show!

Check into that will ya?

Mike the clone........Out!

To all the WC followers who said Amat was asked to play this year and refused so they had to ask Mater Dei, well losing to Rancho Cucamonga this past friday shows what a spanking Amat would have given you. Not only did you lose but you got SHUT OUT!...and you also lost to a team playing their second string QB.....Mater Dei beat you week one and from what I could see, held back running the score up by resting some key position players. Amat even without Gaise beat RC....the same will hold true for Los Altos when Amat beats St. Francis. D1 is a whole different beast, so local schools stop saying you can beat Amat until you can beat the teams that Amat beats..Amat, even with their young defense and inexperienced coach , missing star running back, this team is playing one of thoughest schedules and is still compeating..this goes to show who really has the talent in the SGV.....take that 1-10 list in the Tribune and Amat will beat any of those teams..That list should be AMAT then here is your 1-10 SGV best teams..Yes Amat may or may not lose to Carson and really Bomb in league play but when it comes to local area surrounding schools to Amat you schools need to respect the Big Dog in the area. Measure yourself against each other but do not compare yourself to the Blue and Gold. Rowland has the right to talk they are having a good season this year and until someone knocks them off in the San Antonio they can talk all they want...plus I do not hear them calling out Amat like WC,CO,SH do, At least this is one Raider team that is winning.....

Randy,

You show the typical reading comprehension of a 8 year old. I never said 4 "players" in one year. I said 4 students in one year. 4 of my classmates attended Stanford University. In response to your borderline racist, certainly ignorant statements. The athlete we did have who went to Stanford was Julius Barnes (who played with Glendora star Casey Jacobson once on the farm).

Mynameis cub,

what are you talking about, rebuild and we will put you back on the schedule. Last I saw we were in the same league and we beat you last year.

Joe Amat,

Just bringing up SGV facts to Aram for the top 10 rankings, I know to get respect from the valley we must beat quality opponents. But other teams can beat teams that are under .500 year in and out and get the respect of the valley.

Los Altos couldn't handle the big d-line of St. Francis. They kept everyone in the box blocking except the two receivers. Can't complete too many like that. Amat plays teams with that size game after game, so that wont be an intimidating factor.

LA will win their league and move on in their division. Damien, your QB should be a flanker or something else besides a QB he likes to run around too much.

As for Amat, who knows what is in store for them but they will continue to schedule the toughest teams in CIF as they can.

Go Blue and Gold

Joe-
I wrote the Oct. 1, 2006 4:22 Blog message not Randy.

If you read all the message you'll see I was making a joke to "sweeten the disposition of everyone" here! (Please read)

Okay? We good Joe?, good.

To all bloggers:

I can tell you from personal experience that some people take things too far and make things "very personal", upon reflection I have been guilty of this myself. It's something I am not very proud of but it happened. Life's a learning experience, and some of us have harder heads than others.

Let this be a cautionary tale for ALL BLOGGERS. Having to prepare your kids for ridicule is no easy task. Hopefully we're all better people than our mischeivious fingers illustrate. Here's the danger, and there are many. But the real danger is that a blog is permanent. And as others have brought up before "kids read these" blogs and feelings aren't spared. Anyone, upon reflection, can be portrayed as a caricature of him or herself. "Windbag, lowlife, thug, bully", whatever it's easy, but try and defend yourself against a "phantom" and you'll only diminish yourself more. None of us is pleasant when we feel slighted.

We're all capable of offending someone, either on purpose or by accident, let's just all learn from the mistake of others, myself included and make it less personal.

I went to see my Alma Mater Salesian play this weekend after seeing the DHS vs. CO game on Friday and I was left humbled. Their running back, as Jim Garrison has said "was one of the toughest backs to bring down", well he's 4'11" and 175lbs! He plays with heart and pride and comes all night long. And yes, they were undefeated League Champions last year! Did they play "anyone"? Yeah they played their schedule.

I asked bloggers to nominate someone who typifies what I believed #53 from Damien '05 displayed last year. NOT ONE BLOGGER NOMINATED ANYONE! Not even Bluorca, who seems to know alot about alot.

I hope bloggers take this cautionary tale and learn from one of the hardest heads here- mine!

Maybe it's fun to poke/irritate other schools and players, or show how much we know about football but really in the end did we adults have "this nonsense" to deal with when we were in high school? Pimples, girls, cars, dances, my grades, my friends, college, my parents, "her parents" that was it! That was all there was!

I started the "Award" and will leave the SGV nominations to all bloggers but you'll ALL have trouble catching up to Salesian's TAZMAN !!

If we really know "anything" about football or are "real fans" of our beloved schools than the nominations should just roll in. Now wouldn't that be nice to read if "you" were in high school?

Aram- you still run the best blog. As far as deleting the garbage? That's what interns are for! lol (No offense to the intern, we've all been there once!)

randy, face it rowland is the real deal, so know your role, shut up, and watch rowland shine!

Hey=Oh Jim G. Thanks for the Kudos

Well, yeah. This big V-12 (you, the fan is the 12th man) of an engine need a little warming up but once we get going, there's no stopping this freight train.

We like to give people something to talk ab out, then kick it up into high gear. Everyone wants to start in 5th, but that's how you blow the gasket.

Now watch us just catch up and pass without even breaking sweat. The only sweat we'll break is with the coeds later.

MyNameIsCub Aaah-ooooottt

PS: CUBS #1 watch out you SGV rivals - don't even want to say names cause U know who U R!

Even though we have a player at Rowland, we live near Riverside, and have to drive out to all the games. We also cant get the Tribune out here. If someone still has it, can you post the Tribune Top Ten from last wednesday's paper??? Thanks!

my comments were meant for the dads, uncles and other trolls who were talking brash and slamming "my" football awareness.....it was never meant for 16 yr old boys, who might be reading this blog.... i defy you to come up with the name of the "4" players who went to Stanford from RHS in one year?....we'll go back to '90s, i'm calling BS on that bro.....i'll be double checking your claim----and you can spell check my comments all you want, how does that sound professor?....the proof is in the pudding, and we'll be doing alittle taste test here real soon.....

randy randy randy little boy good luck friday night please tell glendora to bring there A game.

predictions on rowland glendora game?

Dan, it's hard to say anyone can take the place of the Suei twins, but wow, the new configuration seems to be working great. Chad Norys, Brandon Bolden, and Jon Couwenhoven are all making big plays on the line. And although we miss Mark Burgos too, the running game is as explosive as ever, with Rene Small playing better than ever, the always dependable Brian Ellison, and their up-and-coming star, Joey Chase! Joey has just been on FIRE. The Chase brothers are becoming to the offense, what the Suei brothers were to the defense. Man can he and Rene run!

Somebody also might want to point out to Randy that Rowland was named a Blue Ribbon School and continues to put up great academic numbers compared to the rest of the state. I mean, I know when I graduated Rowland we had 4 of our "thug kids" go to Stanford.

If this kind of back and forth continues, the entire thread is going bye bye. Clean it up and stay on topic. If you don't like a team, say why and be tactful. It is not easy to read every comment word for word, so I'm trusting you guys will stay classy.

See Joe that's why people bag on you...My God!...calling people smart and rooting for YOUR team! Have you no conscience! Good man! This is a blog and if you're going to spoil things and recognize intelligent thought...well...I might have to start using ....oh yes I will...THE BIG LETTERS!!!! and some of these too (!!!!!) LOL

Enjoy the game vs. the G-men it's going to be HS football at it's best. Good luck

Hey Jimbo?--it's not "back and to the left" but...

Wow, 'randy', you really are a scumbag. I didn't really give half a crap about your smack talking about the team's chances, but now you're make personal, racist attacks on the kids and their parents? I think the mold in your basement is getting to you:

"so kick back, have another budweiser, hit the pipe, maybe kick your dog "

"your basically suffering from the NON B.C.S. school SYNDROME that your thug kids wind up at" (by the way, it's 'YOU'RE basically', genius)

"take your paxil, down your cuervo, and chill"

I didn't say anything about the other semi-racist comments, but this crap is WAY OUT OF LINE! The kids actually read and post on these blogs, how DARE you spew that kinda of poison in here. It really shows what a class act you are. Forget about taking the high road, just take any road that leads you out of here...

Aram, isn't this exactly the stuff you were trying to keep out of your blog? I mean how much more blatant does it have to be for you to kick 'randy' to the curb?

Oh, here you go 'randy'.... http://www.dictionary.com

jim garrison well said, what ive been saying all along finally some one smart, aram are yu listening probably not.

Bluorca, since you like spouting lots of stats, just thought I'd give you a little correction. Don Lugo was CIF Ranked #10 in their division, and as of the most recent poll, Cal has risen to #8 in theirs. I'm not saying that they're great teams, but if you're gonna slam the Raiders, like everyone else, at least get your facts straight.....m'kay?

dan,
How are they doing look at the scores need i say anymore. randy you got problems big time but keep throwing fuel on the fire i love it.

My name is Cub:

Congrats on the win. I'll be honest that I thought you'd get worked by the Dons. My friend's lil bro plays at SO Notre Dame and now he's gonna have to hear it even more from his Loyola friends. My question is, why do you guys always start so damn slow in a season? I know you play a tough schedule but ... weren't you guys a 6-4 regular season team last year before going to CIF?

Yeah, my boys got worked by Salesian, no doubt. Weird stuff happens and frankly they came in WAY too overconfident after a great scrimmage the week before. Not taking anything away from Salesian cuz they just whooped us and that small running back they have was one of the toughest runners I've seen to bring down. That being said Cantwell has played nobody, like they do every year, so the numbers don't mean much to me at this point. All I know is since that first game Bosco's won their last three games by big margins. Should be a good game though as it is probably Bosco's second biggest rival (outside of Cathedral) and you know how rivalry games go.

As for the Rowland-Glendora game, it amazes me as an observer to see that when you talk about your team it's "pride" and "truth" but when the other teams do it it's "smack" and "trash talk." There has been a lot of Rowland talk here because simply there hasn't been enough Rowland talk on the main page. I'm honestly starting to think I know Wallace from West Covina more than I know my own students. Why doesn't he have his own blog on the Trib website by now?

I'm not going to make any predictions about the Glendora-Rowland game. I haven't had a chance to watch Glendora all year, I've only seen Rowland vs. Don Lugo. Glendora may very well win the game. That doesn't change the fact that Rowland was ranked #3 by Aram, #5 in CIF, has a very explosive offense and some big play makers on defense. And even with a sub-par schedule they've at least blown out the teams they should blow out and not played down to the levels of their opponents like you see often from more talented teams. Why shouldn't Rowland fans want their team to get a little more run by the local press that has ignored them so far?

to answer dan's question.. the seui bro's have been replaced by branden bolden(noseguard) and chad norys(LB). and mark burgos has been replaced by a number of runners.. small, chase, ellison.. and they're doing the job they need to

Exactly. Thanks for laying the wood to those "finally said something positive about their school fans" Who are they and how dare they come in to YOUR blog and ask Aram for some respect! How dare they! After being neglected for 4 Weeks! How dare they! Who do they think they are!

And after being flamed by a mentally stunted child , How dare they ask you to grow up! How dare they! Who are these guys and why are they behaving so ...so...grown up! I hate that! Come on Rowland faithful listen to Jim Rome for a week and sink down and make randy feel loved. HOW DARE YOU STAY POSITIVE! MY GOD THE NEXT THING YOU'LL DO IS USE CAPITAL LETTERS TO SHOW YOU'RE REALLY MAD AND ON THE VERGE OF SHOUTING! ROWLAND COME ON NOW WHO THE DANG GONE IT DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? I'M SO MAD , SEE I'M STILL USING THE REALLY BIG LETTERS!!!!!!!!!

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THIS JUST IN>>> (Imagine ticket tape machine sound in the background)

What's the difference between milk and LOYOLA CUBS on a hot day?

CUBS TRAVEL WELL!

What does LOYOLA and milk have in common when it gets hot?

They both SPOIL... as in SPOIL DOMINGUEZ' plans to dominate!!!!

Dominguez down... We told you so. We predicted it. Our crystal ball never looked so clear. We are running on all pistons now. This steam engine is ready to roll!

St. Paul get ready...

GO CUBS! Gonna watch a real hot team come into the SG Valley and show u how HSFB is played baby!

CUBS #1! Amat, rebuild so we put you back on the schedule. We don't want to kick you while ur down.

Who's with me now, before all the bandwagonners climb on board! There may bed no room left soon!!!!! Let's GO CUBS!

MyNameIsCub AAH-OOOoottt!

Bad news brother! Salesian blew you out and Cantwell will as well. ( Still can't believe I'm giving props to Cantwell, wow!) Brother is the Defensive Coordinator @ Salesian and the other is the DB Coach. So I know they put it on you! Mustangs in the HOUSE!!!!

As far as Cantwell, look at their numbers. The defense is giving up less than 5 pts/game, plus 20 in turnovers, and they start Sophs. and Jrs. Defense is jelling! Offensive is avg. 20pts/game. This is a very young team, but four of their assistant coaches have Head Coaching experience. Cantwell is 5-0.

Sergio V.(D-Line Coach) what can I say brother you win everywhere you coach! Major props! "Homecoming" of sorts, at Bosco, will be "RICH"! Sorry Jimbo, he's a Salesian baller as well as a friend and former team mate! But you never know. Any chance of a conspiracy? LOL

Sorry about the pride thing, just came from seeing Salesian beat Calvary. Man, I LOVE THAT SCHOOL !!! GO MUSTANGS !!! HOPE EVERYONE HERE LOVES THEIR ALMA MATER AS MUCH A "WE" DO!

you people are wrapped to tight....you can dish out all this "why not us?" but when you get the answer you dont like, you whine like 3 yr olds....you folks got the wood laid to you on this blog over the weekend, and now your crying foul???.....its all in fun,...all in jest....learn to laff at this bulletin board...it'll be that much easier to take the whipping your soon to get...

Joe has the void thats been left by the Seui
brothers & Mark Burgos been filled? Who replaced them & how have they been doing?

Nice, always love reading you and Blu! Never mind that some times you both suffer from homer myopia, lol, I still look forward to your analysis?

Seen your G-men vs. Charter Oak and maybe you guys softened them up for Damien, lol. Really admire Coach P. but after seeing ALL three teams play, and I'm probably the only one here who has, it's easy to say Damien is the strongest most balanced team of the three. I think however the bye hurts them more than it helps them, but you never know. They just put in a new "D" package and it looked STRONG, BIG and FAST! Ask CO's skill players-OUCH!

As far as the G-MEN they play fast and agressive. I just don't see your QB surviving the game and making the necessary throws to stay in a high scoring game. And it will be a high scoring game, even you know that, lol. Your game against Rowland will probably be attended by the Damien staff and smart players and it will be interesting to see how you handle your business. Lofty standards and all.

Damien has speed, size, skill and big time players (Mendrun/Echardise/Pertusati). What they lacked was game experience and a running game and with this rollercoaster season ("one second and one yard") that seems to have made the team mature quickly. Marine was insane against CO, the question is can he do it consistently. My quess is ABSOLUTELY!!!

I'll see your G-men vs. Rowland, in person, and see if I have to tone down my prediction. Good luck and ...oh....okay! GOOD NIGHT NOW!!!!!!!
Is that the basement door I just heard or is my mommy calling me?

dan,
rowland is not last yrs team they are about 2 big steps ahead of that team remember most of these guys returned from last yrs team and they were starters ,pretty much a senior filled team.
As for glendora who in the hell told you yu were a good team i seen you play please another don lugo the only difference is you talk to much trash and you cant back it.

I dont say much on here, I just mostly read it all, but I see alot of talk about the Rowland Raiders this week that i havent in previous weeks, but I look at what most of there fans have said and i see no smack talk, no boasting. So randy you need to take step back from the keyboard buddy, because your gettin a little overboard with some of the stuff your saying and Dan the Rowland/CalHi game was Rowlands first game, theyve only gotten stronger since and Yes next week will be a good one, and yes I believe this team is just as good as last years even better. And one more thing...if Rowland is so crappy and you should be embarresed if your team loses to them, then why talk so much about them...maybe your worried that the underdog team mite have a shot for once...just some thought..

While it's true that I AM biased towards Roland, since my girlfriend's son is a captain, and I hope they beat Glendora, what I'm most excited about is seeing what I hope is a good battle. I know that the starters for sure are getting tired of spending half the game on the bench. While this will certainly help them stay healthy later in the season, I think right now they just want to PLAY! I hope its close, but that we come out on top :D Unlike Randy Who?, I don't feel any need to put down any other team, I'm just sharing our pride in our team, what's wrong with that? I will say though that Don Lugo really needs to get their fans motivated. The Rowland fans not only had to travel, but had to figure our that the game was at Chino HS, a fact not listed ANYWHERE I could find, except finally in a Daily Bulletin article, yet they still outnumbered Don Lugo's fans. At least it looked that way to me. Gotta give props to their boosters though, man do they have a TON of swag! I stood there looking at their table thinking "Dang, wish I could get a really nice stadium chair with Rowland Raiders embroidered on it!" I mean, they had it all! C-Bags, 3 different kinds of duffel bags, shirts, sweatshirts, all kinds of rah-rah crap! All we get is license plate frames, crappy 12 inch foam hands, and face tatooes! What's up with that, Rowland? I want my fancy, embroidered, Rowland Raiders stadium chair, dammit! They even had a couple concession tents besides the snack bar, selling kettle corn, smoothies, and snow cones. I was only too happy to give up my usual chili nachos (not that there's anything wrong with them, lol) in favor of a delicious banana/strawberry smoothie! I wish we could play them again!

MAJOR UPSET ALERT!!!

LOYOLA BEAT #4 COMPTON DOMINGUEZ 14-10!!!

What's up with the entire Catholic school honks and the S-P-E-L-L out B.S. is that a perquisite?

We may be bloogers but ……………ahhhhhhhhhh…….. never mind I’ve had a tough weekend and I’m really tired.

OUT!………….. Mike the Clone

Blu you the man always standing up! Call them like you see them Homer.

From One Honk to another you know the score and you deal with it! GOOD NIGHT NOW!!!!!

Squint,Squint.

Mike the Clone

L-O-Y-O-L-A... what those that spell.... Loyola.... what does that mean...Championship caliber....Who's gonna spank St. Paul...LOYOLA! Mighty cubs 4-ever!

I'm not Mike the Clone but you are!

I wouldn't sweat the loss to Capistrano Valley too much man. Capo Valley's only loss this season has been to El Toro 20-17. El Toro has 2 losses but they were to Laguna Hills who is 4-0 and San Clemente who is 4-1 and has only lost to Pac-5 powerhouse Edison. So Capo Valley has a pretty good team this year if you squint your eyes a bit ya know? haha! You Tartans will be aight!

Looking foreward to the Rowland vs Glendora game, its a close one in my eyes, Glendora looked pretty scrappy the time I saw them against Covina then they beat Charter Oak but loose in a close one to Capo V., I just don't know how good Capo is. Rowland is 4 & 0 with a lite schedule, but what makes them interesting is that they blew out the other teams, & from what I heard on this board they pulled their starters early, the question mark on them is the Cal Hi game, it sounds like Cal Hi gave them a pretty good battle, Cal Hi just lost to schur so I don't know how good they are. Despite that if Rowland is as good as last year then I'll pick them in a close one.

Aram what's the matter with you. you keep picking the weak for your number ones... you should call the videos you put up Game of the WEAK! Comeon how could you think Los Altos was going to get anywhere with St.Francis? LA QB, all of 5 feet seven (on a good night with John Travolta plataforms) can't see over any other team's Big-D, especially that of big power house St. Francis. Stop it already with the "OH YEAH HE'S GOT A GREAT ARM" crap Aram... who you kidding? The LA kid QB needs to become a kicker or something... he throws far, but outta target cause he cant see over the D. I watched my good share of games over the years and this one QB, and be true to yourself Aram now, is overrated... Where you going next week for your Game of the Weak Aram. Sit down, look over the stats, read up on the players and give us some good journalistic picks of who the real good players are and see you next week. Oh, yeah, GO TARTANS!

Bluorca,

Just one comment from this Bagpiper... we better get our act together or we are going to lose to teams like Rowland.Heck we lost to a team like Capo.

Orca we looked sick!

Out! Mike the Clone

Hey Gotta Love,

Yeah we have certain standards as Bagpiper U that we have to uphold. Those standards of which you will probably never understand. So when you meet our standards then I will take you seriously.

If you do blow us out I’ll be a believer in you guys because right now our Bagpipers aren’t a good team.Myself and a few other bloggers will admit when our ball clubs are good and when we are bad.I'm a realist and again we hold our bagpipers to higher standards our loss to Capo was ugly and I know you wouldn't understand.

So have a nice week off and stay away from that crazy "holy water" your drinking it's obviously spiked with something. I hope Sister Mary Shawn gives you an "A" for that nice GHS smack on this blog. I’m sure you make “Cardinal Roger� the mafia boss very proud with that fine Catholic education you have.

So go my son, back to the flock and continue your smack remember you’re the one that said blow out I didn’t.

Wise man once said “Becareful for which you wish for� because your blowout statement might just come back to bite you on your ass.

Now back to watching the SC game.

Good Night Now…………..Mike The Clone

Raider Alum…. errrrrr Mr. Garrison, in the immortal words of John Riggins you have to “loosen up baby your way to tight�.

Don’t take things so personal sure there are some whom live through their kids, here in blog world. Then there are some of us who played the game and had to study it. You also have the stat freaks you know the “Steve Hartman’s� of the blog. And I’m sure some live in basements.

Hey I take digs at my fellow bloggers like “Bluorca� "Jeffrulerson" "Buck" just to name a few and hell I even take digs at the “king of blog� Aram himself. And they like wise dig me.........Errrrr let me re-phrase that, they all can take digs at me. Hey we all think each other is crazy anyways. But we take our shots and take’em like men. And the lady bloggers I’m sure they take it like women sometimes, OH man did I just say that?

It just so happens and I think others will agree with this clone that you never saw the “Ro Ro’s in blog world as much as you do now. So be a man and take the heat and welcome to our world.

Oh by the way, how big are those “bandwagons� you guys have anyways? Will any of us have room to park over there next week?

So Jimmy relax it’s all in good fun! Step up and take it like a man!

Mike the Clone………………Out!

Let me see , "you're scrappy', "well coached" "small but hungry" "play like a TEAM instead of like a one trick pony" and on and on and on...Oppps you lose ONE (1) game and you're bagging on every player, the kicker, his "shoes", the coaching staff, the scheme, the tackling, the offense, the defense,officials, the "band", the sun , the moon and last but not least THE CHEERLEADERS!!!!!!!

How do you spell front runners...simple

G..L..E..N..D..O..R..A !

How do you spell blow out...simple

D..A..M..I..E..N !

Im sorry i didnt mean to bag on rowland im just jealous my team isnt as good go raiders!!!!!!

Maybe this is the reason why people hate on the G-folk. Your last rant was filled with "sublte" klanish crap! Your comments about "Far East" valley and "Ho-dads"? Maybe that's why there's a "baja glendora", "little T.J. La Verne" and "Baja Baja Claremont' and "old San Dimas" because of morons like you! Get yourself a clue!

What is it that irritates you about Rowland? I've been on this site since the beginning and I didn't even realize that Rowland HS was covered by the SGV Tribiune or Aram. Weak schedule or not they are 4-0 and killing the teams on their schedule, like they are suppose to.

But to call the parents, players or fans out because they're proud of their team and making not so subtle racists comments speaks poorly of you, sir. Besides the RHS faithful were directing their commments to ARAM! What gives! Yeah take the "high road" and stay on it. Oh by the way Imperial Wizard it's 2006!

Seriously how can you talk down to the Raider fans on here that are just trying to get a talented team some recognition? Rowland might not have played the best schedule in the world but you'd have to be blind to say they don't have talent. Even Amat Tolegian... err Aram had them ranked high and they are were up to #5 in the CIF poll.

So yeah, some of the Rowland pups here might be talking a little too much before their first real test of the year, but that's what the pups do. Week after week of reading about West Covina when you're right up there with them talent wise will do that to you.

So I hope the game this Friday is good, I can't make it since I have to work the game the school I work at is playing (Bosco vs. CantDoWell), and I hope Rowland wins. But if we don't I hope the Rowland fans learn from the posts of Glendora fans and make up every possible excuse that you can for the loss and refuse to admit you got beat by a better team. Because frankly that what the internet is for. So 40 year old clones living in their parents' basements can make excuses for the 18 year old boys they are living their lives through.

Glendora vs Capo Valley

Funny thing happened on the way to victory for the boys of GT hi....they came but did not play ball as in the weeks that have passed. Mistakes took there toll...like...12 men in the huddle (x2)...OL false jump on the snap (x3)...QB with no sense of range and/or target...recievers with no hands..(till late in the game)...inability to convert on PAT's...entering the red zone on the run and then rolling 3 plays and-out because once again we figured we could pass and catch the ball...the D was making good contact but forgot to wrap giving up long yards & 1st downs like crazy....oh, yes and what about spotting Capo 20 at ther half. Last two minutes of the game was being controlled by someone that wanted to go home early...ie...active clock during a time out???????..what's that all about?..(cuz we lost 40 seconds)....Officials with losey ball spoting (hey ref, look into LENS CRAFTERS. And last but not least having no 2 minute plan by coach P...next time just go for the 1st downs instead of trying to bang out 40 yrds and the improbable TD as a finale. If GT doesn't change things up on offensive-defense-special teams etc..we can expect more of the same when we cruise over to Rowland this next week.

Rowland's Opponent's W/L record for this year...

California has 2 wins/2 loss
Montebello has 2 wins/3 loss
Sonora has 1 win/3 loss
Don Lugo has 1 win/3 loss

None of these teams are ranked anywhere nor have any of these teams played anyone ranked. I would bet my left marble that Glendora is going to go medieval mash potato on Rowland...

alright, ...alright...i'll take the high road....big test for Rowland coming up, put up or shut up.....i got my pesos on the Tartans...the kids will settle this banter for us on the field....i'm surprised, shocked and stunned that the Raiders agreeded to play someone with an above .500 record.....i guess the nogales JV was already booked for next week huh?...oh wait....i said i was gonna stop.......

John,
Comparitive scores are not really an indicator. There is no "transitive property" (remember your algebra?) in sports.

Last year Cal Poly San Luis Obispo beat South Dakota St who beat UC Davis who beat Stanford who beat Arizona who destroyed UCLA.

So Cal Poly SLO is better than UCLA - right.

But no, Amat people know it doesn't work that way after last seasons wins over MD and Loyola - with no playoffs to show for it while Loyola wins it all.

That's why we play the games - and then you have to win the ones that matter !

More like the poor Ranch is having a hard time with Willie Reyna. The only thing that would have made my night better yesterday would have been if he would have walked over to the arroyo sideline and just stayed there for good, we dont want him at the ranch.

Bluorca - the differenve between Amat and WestCo is depth. It would be great if Gaisie were healthy, but the Lancers have guys like McBride waiting in the wings. WestCo has no such depth. They need Hockenhull and both Wallaces to have any chance against most teams on the schedule. And I'm talking about offense and defense.

I'm still shocked over West Covina's loss to Rancho Cucamonga. I know that WC fans will point to their injuries, suspensions, etc. but on paper, this WC team looked better to me (even without Wallace x2) than Amat's which is why I thought WC was going to rout RC.

I know that others and I have tried to explain to others the high level of play that Amat competes at year after year but even I am surprised at the secret high caliber of what is team Amat. Everyone knows that this Amat team was in complete disarray when they played Rancho Cucamonga. Amat had suffered back to back poundings and was missing their star player in Gaisie who is starting RB and DB. Amat's defense is extremely young as well with only 2 seniors starters. This on top of the fact that Amat had made some moves on their depth chart which meant that they had players playing in positions that they were not used to. Amat's QB is also inexperienced and was picked off way too often in the prior games. And this entire fiasco is being mopped up and put back together by Verti...a very young, inexperienced coach who has been out-coached in the 3 prior games and has come under fire from the Amat faithful. Amat does not have any dominating players like Wallace, Harris, or Mendrum. And yet, this entire mess (so sorry Blue) of what is team Amat still managed to beat Rancho C. 27-17. NOW THATS HEART! I believe now that this Amat team is more than they have been given credit for. BRING ON THE CARSON COLTS!!!!

As for the Valley rankings...I think that Los Altos should be ranked #1 with Amat ranked #2 until Amat proves itself againts St. Francis which wont be too long from now. That game is gonna be HUGE! Sorry Rowland, you might be 4-0 but your opponents are pretty sorry combining for 6wins, 11 losses including 2 teams that are 1 win and 3 loss. As for Glendora, they escaped Charter Oak while Damien
pounded CO. Tartan fans should be getting nervous right about now...

Congrats to the Damien Spartans in their victory over Charter Oak. They hit good and hard dont they Chargers?

The St. Francis defense did a number on Los Altos. Dont worry Conquerors, your season will still be a championship one and Amat will avenge your loss!

Other games of note for the Amat faithful...

St. Paul 30, Wilmington Banning 15
St. John Bosco 55, Valencia 34
Hart 55, Antelope Valley 6
Harvard Westlake 33, Carson 30 (ack!)
CC Canyon 49, Chaminade 32
St. Bonaventure 40, Crespi 14
Notre Dame 56, Saugus 33
Loyola vs. Dominguez is tonight!!!
Mater Dei 21, Edison 14
Orange Lutheran 38, Los Alamitos 27
Esperanza 42, Tesoro 0
Santa Margarita 21, Fountain Valley 3
Servite 35, Lynwood 6
San Clemente 45, El Toro 14

Well, all I can say about Randy is that he's still talking a lot of smack... and STILL backing it up with NOTHING. Hate all you want, clown, we know who we are.

Wow Rowland is the hott topic right now, Randy has some things to say, Rowland is 4-0 but they still haven't played anybody. I can't wait till this is settled when they play some caliber teams. That's when well all see how good Rowland really is.

On another note, I am very disappointed with Los Altos. I do think they should be 5-0 right now, ST. Francis was a good team, but LA just straight out lost on their own mistakes. They beat a better team last week in Damien, just a bad week. I know they'll be more focused from now on and end the regular season at 9-1, still not to bad.

Greetings I’m Mike the clone and you are not!

Buck, Nice………………Very Nice you are the real deal and you make me look again like a freaking genius. You are sweet “Uncle Buck� What you stated in your “blog� is exactly what I have been saying all along.

Our kicking game sucks and has finally come back to haunt us and will continue to do so in close games like that one when we spot a team 20 points right at the get go.

Bagpipers what the hell was that? You looked like some other team. Talking smack,calling wierd time-outs, missed tackles, did I say missed tackles.What happen to that defense that was kicking some butt and making clutch sticks? Yikes! You guys can’t do that against teams like Capo. And offense what the hell was going on with all the fumbles. You guys weren’t yourselves or was that just your ugly sister that you dressed up in your uniforms.

Gezz, the whole night was a mess, heck even the Tartan band didn’t show up until the second half. Oh wait a minute………..errrrrr they were handing out their own type of whooping at the fair…. congrats GHS Band, you’re excused!

And you Cheerleaders I though you finally had it right the last three games. Please stop with the routines during play, Do them during the time outs! Please it’s freaking annoying! Even those Bimbo's in the "National Felon League" know that when the the game is being played your not doing routines.Heck I may even pay attention during the time outs.(And before I get angry letters girls I'm not calling you Bimbos)

Oh well back to the game, I had the pleasure to sit next to a “scribe� who covers Orange County, he got it right Capo did escape and I quote from his article

“The host Glendora football team turned the ball over twice, squandered two opportunities in the red zone, missed two extra point attempts and one two-point conversion.�

Guys we can’t do that! Capo Valley was just a Covina on “Roids� and we made them look good. Snap out of it and snap out of it now! This clone was not impressed with Capo at all.

Jordan I know your banged up kid, but hang in there. And the rest of you running backs start using both hands because you are going to start to see teams start stripping you of the ball.That was a weakness tha obviously Capo saw with you guys and after watching it today you guys do carry the ball loosely.

Oh and Randy, relax don’t get into smack downs with the “Ro Ro� fans. As a “bagpiper� I am a realist I know what I have and I deal with it. Hey they are fans living in their fantasy world right now and are talking a whole lot of unchecked smack about this and that…yawn! Who they have played say’s it all. Take the high road and let them smack all they want. They deserve it! Next thing you know they will be crying a "Dangerfield" we get no respect. Frankly I find it all rather amusing.

Let’s just hope that our “bagpipers� show up to play next week and stop with us having to rely on our kicking game because we don’t have one.

It is now time for Rowland to a get reality check and to start hanging with the men and not the boys.

I’m Out, Good Night Now!

Damien finished preseason strong(they should be 5-0 like Mendrum said)and they have a bye week to heal those bruises. I feel bad for Glendora when they play in 2 weeks. Im calling a Damien route 55-10

I love all these rowland haters look 4-0 is 4-0 it dont matter who you play especially when you man handle all of them so rowland fans let these punks talk there trash, scoreboard baby.Aram what up.

WHO ARE THESE 3 OR 4 THESE ROWLAND RAIDERETTE CLOWNS COMING OUTTA THE CLOSET AFTER ONE FAST START AGAINST THE LIKES OF ST LUCYS AND POMONA CATHOLIC?......ARAM THROWS YOU BOYS A BONE BY OVERATING YOUR POP WARNER CREW,AND NOW YOU THINK WE ALL SHOULD BOW DOWN TO YOU?.....LIKE I SAID, SURVIVE LEAGUE...MAKE THE PLAYOFFS, HAVE YOUR TEAM MAKE NOISE---NOT YOU---AND ADVANCE, THEN WE'LL TALK PROPS......AND DONT EVEN MENTION THE SIERRA LEAGUE AMD ROWLAND IN THE SAME PARAGRAPH, SENTENCE, OR BREATH.....HOW DARE YOU IMPLY THAT YOUR FLUNKYS COULD EVEN PLAY WITH DAMIEN, CHINO HILLS, GLENDORA OR EVEN CHINO.....DIAMOND BAR WITH THEIR TEAM OF 8 SENIORS TOTAL WOULD GIVE YOUR HO-DADS TROUBLE.....JUST STOP IT, CAN IT AND SAVE IT FOR LEAGUE THERE BIG FELLA......YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT HAVE CABLE TV OR YOU WOULDA CAUGHT THE MIDNIGHT FEED OF YOUR DIV 11 TEAM PLAYING ON SOME GRAINY "FLY BY NIGHT" HIGH SCHOOL PRODUCTION OF THE "RR' FOOTBALL TELECAST.........WEAK, ALWAYS HAVE BEEN....ALWAYS WILL........WAIT, IT JUST CAME TO ME,.....THE TRIBUNE WAS PROBABLY LOOKING FOR MORE SUBSCRIPTION IN THE "FAR EAST" SECTION ON THE SAN GAB VALLEY...SO THEY ORDERED ALL THE WRITERS TO SHOWER THE HEIGHTS READERS WITH PLEASANT, EVEN MAKE BELIEVE, STORIES REGARDING THE ROWLAND CLAN.......GEE---THATS IT, THAT EXPLAINS THE #5 RANKING, WHICH MEANS NOTHING EITHER WAY....SHOW ME A LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP BANNER IN FOOTBALL---FROM THIS DECADE, LETS SEE IF YOUR DARLINGS ARE STILL PLAYING THANKSGIVING.....DOUBTFUL HOMEY----DOUBTFUL....

Glendora, I told you "one game at a time", you guys were much better than Capo. You had the "TOO MANY" problem last night. Too many missed tackles, too many penalties, too many missed extra points, too many over thrown balls, too many dropped balls, too many fumbles. You can't spot someone a 20 point lead in the first quarter and expect to win. Way to fight back, it showed a lot heart. The passing game got better, Capo couldn't stop the run even though Edmonds was not at full speed, a couple more long completions and they would not have known what to do. Crook, fire the ball, your ball looks pretty in the air but I think there is to much air underneath it. Will someone get Glendora a kicking coach, my god, they never have a solid kicking game and it cost them big last night. Your PAT kicker can not have a longer run to the ball then your kick off guy. If no one else noticed, the kid lined up soccer style and kicks with his toe, get him a kicking shoe (oh, I forgot, it probably does not look cool)but at least you could but points on the board. Defense played well again except for tens of missed tackles. If Glendora can stop shooting themselves in the foot (last night they shot both feet), they will be really tough to beat. Good luck next week boys, you just need to play your game.

aram wat about covina smashing mtn view 63 to 0

Went to the Los Altos game last night, LA couldn't run or pass the ball all night. I thought that with 10 minutes remaining in the game Gano made a bonehead play after the interception for a TD. He went for 2 instead of 1. He thought with 10 to go he needed to win it there instead of tieing it up. What was he thinking, he couldn't move on St. Francis all night. Just like last week when he went for it on 4-2 and came up short and gave Damien a short field and just about lost the game. Well since no one came up with the pictures of the TD and another week has come and gone it too is history.

LA still has a very solid team and should go far this year, not sure if they will go all the way in CIF but they should do fine. St. Francis is probably the beat team that they will face this year as for size and strength goes.

There is no pressre on Amat. Heck, Los Altos beat Damien - Damien beat Charter Oak - Rancho Cucamonga beat West Covina - Bishop Amat beat Cucamonga. What does this tell you, Amat should be moving up in the polls and if they beat St. Francis in two weeks than who is the #1 team in the valley. Verti, no pressure, just win.

Just a little food for thought for you when you are working on your rankings for next week.

As for Rowland, who have they beaten??

well.. COVINA H.S , looks just like they did last year at this time, strong in all areas,you guys say they don't have a tuff schedule or league,but you know what,who cares, while you guys are complaining about not making it to the playoffs for this or for that,covina will still be playing in mid november and just like last year you will come to see them play.while all the other so called "BIG" schools are making excuses why they did'nt make the playoffs,COVINA will keep on rollin.............GO COLTS!!!

I was at El Monte @ Baldwin Park. Harris had 189 yards rushing and 30 yards passing, 5 total TD's. I wanted to be at the El Rancho - ARROYO game. Poor Willie Reyna is having a hard time at the ranch. Singiser will still lead his team to a MVL title this year. Tustin comes to town next week, which will be really tough. I think Knights go 1-4 in preseason but undefeated in league. A home game for 1st round CIF might be inspiring.

Who is Randy? First of all RANDY Rowland may not be playing great teams, but we have destroyed all of them...Second of all what local channel have you seen us on cause we aint on no local channel, so dont talk crap until you seen us play. Bottom line is it dont matter who you play as long as you win...As far as West Co is concerned...sure they came out strong in the beginning against Mater Dei, but it seems to me like they've taken a step backward every week. Next week will be the biggest test of all, either Rowland will live up to the expectations or they will lose and that will be that! But Ill be damned if some no namer(randy) is gonna come on here and bring down our 4 wins! All Rowland PLayers, Stay up! We know who we are we dont need people like RANDY to believe in us, we only got to believe in ourselves! -#4

Solid victory for Damien! Bad news for the Valley, Damien's got a Defense to match their Offense!

I don't know where I heard it but "got bigs use them" and "four man fronts" seemed to be the difference in the game!

Damien has without question the largest group of mobile big men in the Valley! They have seven, if not eight starters that they can rotate at will. Speed rushers, run stuffers and combo run/pass beasts! These kids are BIG, FAST and RUNNING on all cylinders! GREAT JOB!

No way anyone can withstand that amount of opps, there it is again..."sustained pressure". Oh and the "stunts", man oh man, Damien might run the table! LBing crew ran free! Making plays without having to dodge linemen. This defense made CO look b..a.d..BAD!

Again Mendrun proves he's the best player in the Valley and the best player Damien's had since Ian Johnson, and look what he's doing!

Last point, who is #36 Chris Marine! Back breaking(literally) runs all night! Every time CO thought they had something going RB #36 broke 4 or 5 tackles for a first down and then some! That's what happens when a senior realizes there's no tomorrow and decides to let it ALL come out!

Game balls to the D-line and Chris Marine!

But what do I know? Last I heard, "absolutely nothing about football!"

Anyone read Fred Robledo's piece on Coach Ruedaflores from Alhambra by way of Salesian? Went for his 100 victory vs. So. Pas, came up short but this is his last year and , "We're all pulling for you Coach!"

"Even when I was close to defeat, I rose to my feet!" Dr. Dre and A.C. #53 Booooyah!!!!

The Defense really stepped up for Damien in this game. With the 2 point lead over CO at half time, the game was the Defense's to lose. They rose to the occasion and stopped the Chargers for the remaining 24 minutes. Great D, Great QB, and did i happen to see a running game start to come around? The Spartans are finishing up pre season how you would like it, playing their best football. GO SPARTANS!

castaneda played horrible he was throwing passes when there was 2 or 3 defenders around his receivers 2nd week in a row where he's made bad decisions he needs to step it up

Randy, like I said, let's hear some facts to back up your Raider bashing. What does having a weak starting schedule have to do with what kind of team they are? Would a different scedule have made Amat or South Hills a better team? Gotta say I'm happy about Glendora's loss tonight, no more dreams of being undefeated for them, and softens them up a little for Rowland next week. And Randy, with the Sierra League being so dominant, why is only one of their teams ranked? Too bad West Co didn't have a weaked schedule, I hope they're still above 500 by the time they get to Rowland, or it'll be a pyrrhic victory.

Rancho Cucamonga 20 West Co. 0
Bulldogs stunk up the field tonight, two of the three gamebreakers did not suite up for the game
& I was told by someone that it was for discipline reasons during school. William Wallace
got hurt early in the game [looked like a hit to the head] but he came back midway in the third
quarter after Rancho did their scoring. My illusions of grandure for this season are slowly disapearing as West Co. has looked mediocre since their impressive showing against Mater Dei.
I'm hopeing that the disciplinary action will make these kids realise they better get it together or they will miss their chance for a successful season,I also hope the return of these kids will pick up the team chemistry & turn them back into the team I saw in week 1.

MR5 just says it like it is,...dont be bitter RHS fans,...dont come out hollering like you just won CIF either....recognize that you've played no one--yet, and we still got along ways to go.....i have seen the raiderettes on the local channel, they look good scoring all them points, against jr all american teams......

i dont know about rowland beating west co, i just dont think it can happen west co played with mater dei and played respectibly,mater dei is one of the top schools around. if rowland contains wallace they may have a chance, otherwise raider fans your in for a long day. montebello sonora cal and don lugo have a combined record of 6-10 and none of them have a winning record.........uh, not that impresive. basically any mediocre team can do the same thing rowland has playing against those teams

Aram, I'd REALLY like to hear your take on Rowland. I know you've ranked them well in your polls (btw, when do we get a new poll?), CIF SS continues to rank them #5, two slots higher than W Covina, and who knows how far abo...ve South Hills, who are no longer ranked. I'm REALLY looking forward to the Glendora game next week, as a test of their mettle. They've shown, time and again, that they have heart and can step up when they need to. Randy, what do you know that the Tribune writers, and CIF don't? Must be something you're basing your conjecture on... Have you actually SEEN Rowland play this season? Last season? I'll be the first to admit they've had a weak schedule so farIts good that Don Lugo at least put up enough of a fight for the starters to stay in the whole game, and shake off the cobwebs. The last two games, although boring for the starters, gave the 2nd and 3rd stringers almost 4 full quarters of game time, a godsend for those that have to step up to fill the holes next year. If Rowland beats Glendora, I think people are going to start giving them some respect. I can't wait. And to Mr. Bolden, keep that fire burning, and keep making those big hits. I saw you plant a guy so hard last night, I was sure they were going to have to dig im up. I hope all your predictions come true!

randy.. please #1 the the san antonio league is the one of the best in the valley. #2 who cares about the strength of schedule? all that matters is league. #3 there's NO possible way rowland will take 3rd in league... south hills is too young, and west co. will be the challenge... rowland has been underestimated for TOO long.. this years team will take it ALL THE WAY! 1st in league, and #1 seed in CIF. MARK MY WORDS RANDY.. that's how it goes down! hi joe

hey raiderette fan......relax! You beat who last night? Don who?....your team hasnt beaten anyone (uhhh, CAL? MONTEBELLO? SONORA??? you gotta be kidding me...), and you'll be lucky to take 3rd in league.....chill !!!!!!!!!!!.....its a good thing you were run out of the sierra league years ago or you'd be gettin' thumped week in and week out....Snoop would have to come in and take over your program too.....survive league, make it to the 2nd round in the playoffs, then maybe, talk some smack....until then----just stop with the madness....

Rowland scored over 40 points for the third game in a row, we are 4-0 now. I agree with Joe, where's the love for Rowland? I may be biased, but Rowland is the team to watch. We have the Chase Brothers, Rene Small, and our lines are strong this year..Don Lugo was a better adversary than the last two teams we've played, but again, Rowland showed them who was the better team. Let's hear it for the Raider fans too, there were atleast as many Raider Fans as Don Lugo fans tonight, and they were the home team. I'm looking forward to the Rowland/Glendora game next week... GO Raiders...

aram. yu want to see dangerous come to the rowland games or better yet dont just watch the scoreboard this team dont need no hype from no one because all you do is hype up all the same teams week in week out, thats because they need it more than rowland does and by the way 14-7 aganist fullerton,i dont need to say no more it speaks for itself yu just keep kissing ace and well keep winning.