POSTGAME: Talk your smack or cry me a river ...

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Glendora fans, here's your respect. Pickup tomorrow's Tribune ... you're on the cover of the entire thing!

Say what you want, the Tartans have heart.


Rosemead 28, Orange 27 (STUNNER!) Who'd have thunk it that Koffmead would represent for the SGV in Orange County? Nice! I don't get it, but nice!
Glendora 30, Rowland 29 (huge 2nd half for GHS)
Bonita 35, San Dimas 14
Carson 21, Bishop Amat 13
Western 21, Los Altos 20 (had a feeling LA wouldn't be awake for this one)
Covina 40, Sonora 14 (McDonough threw for 183 yards, ran for 177 and had 4 TDs combined).

Aram's Glendora vs. Rowland takes: This was one of the oddest games I've ever seen. Glendora looked dominating at times and then looked like the first day of practice at others. But as I said above, this team has heart. Also, Glendora is 3-0 against other Tribune Top 10 teams this season. That's pretty darn good. Maybe this team just wins ugly. It's high school football, I guess we're not supposed to know.
About Rowland ... what can you say? Great effort, disappointing result. Are the Raiders world beaters? No. Are they one of the top teams around? Obviosuly, yes. I was impressed with QB Philip Chase and RB Rene Small. They were almost unstoppable on the option. The defense obviously has seen better days. Coach Snyder put it best by saying that having so many guys go two ways took its toll. Your quarterback isn't supposed to be flying up and making tackles on Jordan Edmond or Zach Butler, but that's exactly what Chase had to do.
Lastly, Joe or somebody at Rowland can maybe help with this - you guys have one of the worst hecklers I've ever heard. No clue who he is, but wow, very bad.
Bottom line: This was a great high school football game with the momentum changes you'd expect to see on any given Friday.


118 Comments

Backlinks said:

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Backlinks said:

Very nice blog. Thanks for the great tips!

BA 24/7 said:

Could not have said it any better A73. I have been tough on the program thru the blog because we are a proud establishment there at Amat and we expect the best especially when it comes to the athletics. Football is our legacy and the dirty Laundry we have been spereading thru the Blog is not necessary. Yes some of us have made the school look bad. This goes back to the earlier blogs when it all started and Aram said "you guys realize what you guys are doing here." All of negatives are worthless and other readers are looking at us like we are out of control....I am hanging up my blog pen and will not come back on...All Amat bloggers should do the same or just keep it positive......This has gotten out of hand we know we are the best win or lose and no one will knock us off when it come to pride and loyalty in wearing the mighty Blue and Gold....Amat is Amat and we are the King of the SGV...........That new Marqee is going to be real nice.....Beat those Golden Knights tommorow....Amat 24 St. Francis 17...not to return.......I'm out Aram.

parent said:

THANK YOU BlEEDS & AMAT 73

Good to read something positive from past Amat fans. Family sticks together NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS! This is the only reason why I enrolled my boy at Amat. New year, new coach, new players, very could supporting parents. Yes, things have been moving slowly but if we have faith and continue to support our kids good things will follow.

Don't forget the players read these blogs too. Stop bashing their coach because if they lose respect in him, they will lose respect in themselves. I teach my child to have respect something of a lost art. The players talk about this blog on a daily basis. They feel the pain after every lost. Beleive it or not, they know the rep & tradition which comes with wearing that "A" on the helment. They hear and see the fans anger. Come on folks keep it real.

Good luck 06-07 players. KEEP THE FAITH

Bleeds Blue and Gold said:

I am the ORIGINAL Bleeds Blue and Gold.

Amen Amat 73, we wear our heart on our sleeve and sometimes we show it too much. We have a right to bitch and moan because we will never settle for second best. Being former students AND parents makes the passion in us that much deeper. Other schools in the valley can only dream of becoming what we are.

Amat leads, all others follow.

AMAT 73 said:

I been a part of AMAT for close to 40 years since i dreamed of attending the best school in the SGV.We do have high standards for what we expect from our school both on and off the athletic fields. I would advise all those close to the school be it Alumni or parents of students to take a deep look at what your doing to our school by bashing the new coach and the program in front of all the people who have always had it in for us do to the fact that "WE ARE AMAT" and we are the best . Take the advise of some of the blogers and go to the chalk talks and vent there. Maybe that forum is a better place to do it since you will be in direct contact with the people you feel are responsible for your grief. In closing let me say just keep the AMAT FAMILY together and united because we have enough people out there enjoying seeing all this bickering going on in our own house. Rome was not built in a day so lets give Coach Verti at least a full season before any judgment is passed. We still have not had a league game .

Why jump the river? said:

Do you Amat complainers listen to yourselves?

"We want wins-NOW!"

"Doesn't happen in one day but this is game 6! "

Hell you guys have been complaining from day one! When Gaise gets hurts -no solid backup ? Mc Bride, Bonilla? I think they're busting their ass!

If Carrillo doesn't do it for you who? Admit it you guys are thin right now and you're still GETTING better! Hell even you guys should try and see the value of that! THEY"RE GETTING BETTER doesn't mean you have BETTER talent on the sidelines---YET!

So go to film class and ask your stupid questions and offer constructive advice so everyone can hear the Holy Graile of your knowledge! My guess is that it won't take long!

One question : Did you guys complain this much when you were winning? I've lived in the area for 25 years and I don't remember hearing that whining noise coming from La Puente before. Maybe it was the thumping of Athens trucks down Valley Blvd. that drowned you out!

Snake river Suicide said:

What everyone is laughing about is our team and how we are not getting it done. I know it does not happen in a day but we are in game 6,Verti's program should be somewhat kicking in by now....Spooner job I can see, but what about the rest that are mentioned......face the facts we have the wrong staff. Verti is carrying these so called wanabe coaches when he could have had the ones I mentioned.. so until they start coaching Amat style football you SHUT UP!.........You have no clue what your talking about.....stop dreaming, the reality is we are getting our A-- handed to us not because of lack of talent but because of lack of technique due to poor assistant coaches that are passing themselfs off as coaches.....we need the maturity of a coaches at Amat, not kids coaching kids. Leave that for Jr. All American.....At Amat we expect a winning program on that field. What we are getting right now is pure guess work. example...lets see Carrillo is not working out so lets put Wells back there and let the defense know he is going to run with the ball...thats all we need is to get him banged around and there goes our best reciever before Gaise comes back and before league starts....So go jump that snake river and when you fall and look up you will be looking up with the rest of us for wins......The parents, Alumni,Student body and players want wins NOW!!!!!A loss to St. Francis is unacceptable...We better win Friday beacuse coming out of Keifer last friday was not a pretty scene...not just with the parents but with the players....enuf said....

Okay I'm jumping the Snake River! said:

Getting coaches to work together can be like herding cats, I'll grant you that but he choose them! Like choosing the starting QB! Like choosing a wife! Make it work! And stop complaining! Coach Verti doesn't need to defend himself what he needs to do is what he's doing--building a program, a staff and making players buy in! That doesn't hapen in one day so SHUT UP!

You saw the film am I right? Missed tackles, broken tackles, miss reads, dropped balls, four good blocks one poor block on the line, RB cuts left instead of right, runs over a LB instead of running to open field, should I go on!

He's putting the players in position to make plays or they wouldn't have been there to miss the tackle, drop the ball, jump the route and make an interception, or shift on the opponents audible!

Like I said SHUT UP! And promise yourselves you'll say positive things about your team here on in ! And watch the players come back! If nothing else everyone will stop laughing at you!

In reference to Spooner he's a hell of a coach and a strong motivator of players and evaluator of talent but his work schedule doesn't allow the move. Also count yourselves lucky that he's the first coach an Amat freshmen remembers!

Anti-News Flash said:

Well what will be his chalk talk excuse if he loses to St. Francis...plus he just lit a fire under that team in the tribune this morning by saying they will be faster in this game...nice going Coach, I am sure that comment will make it into the St. Francis locker room...way to motivate your opponent. Yes the film does not lie and they did play a good game against Carson but explain the Valencia Schooling we took and the Hart non tackling event that was shown in Chalk talk...also the near giveaway at St. Paul where Grigby looked like Reggie Bush against us. Tell me what has Verti done to put a fire under, not his players but his coaching staff. He is someday going to becomae a good head caoch (I do not doubt that)at the varsity level but his staff are his buddies and they are too young...Coach Adamak could not handle the JV last year as a head coach. Coach Chewie, good player does not make you a good coach.....Coach Devera came from Walnut(enuf said there) and just yells but does not teach his defense. Coach Koelle I see him showing Carrillo nothing much less Tamayo...Seems like Verti coaches the QBS........Why didn't Verti mix young coaches with older mature coaches.....meaning a staff of Verti,Spoon,Parker,Canales and bringing back Stephon Pace.plus adding the experience that coach Dicamilla could bring you..now thats a coaching staff that would have us playing real Amat football....We want winning results not chalk talk excuses...Verti better go out next year and get some experience around him because he has a very good junior class that will kick a-- next year....We better come up big vs St. Francis because a loss and then a trip up Chaminade does not get any easier.....I hope his comment in todays tribune saying he feels we are the best in SGV proves to be right come Friday.....If not I guess it is back to pizza and beer Tues to watch the highlights of what could have should have been...... No one here is saying Verti Sucks he just did not put together a very good staff his first year......the team has the talent but the coaching staff needs adjustments not the players......we better beat St. Francis!

randy said:

nice poke!

News Flash Continued said:

Randy
Re: This just in!-
I wrote that to show how ridiculous rumors are at Amat! Regarding available coaches! Hopefully you read it as such! I thought it was funny! No I know it was funny! That's FUNNY!

But...
I said I was going to chalk talk and I did! To all the Coach Verti haters and semi coaches! SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!! This man knows what he's doing , why he's doing it and knows the deal at Amat (as a former player)

Saw the game film and analysis, like I said I would. Coach Verti ran it all down, very professional , very polite- first class operation at Amat! NFL level film room, laser pointer, back and forth several times. his thinking at the time, awesome! Everything there is top of the line! Asked my questions and he answered them directly. Boy did Amat score with this guy!

I don't know of other coaches that break it down for Alumni and parents the way Amat does! UN-FREAKIN-BELIEVABLE!!!! Boy if anyone has a doubt that this Verti is legit he's is a moron! What surprises me is that with this kind of access there are still people who voice their BS! GO TO THE CHALK TALK!
Learn something about yourselves and SHUT UP!!!!

Blu, 24/7 whomever. I didn't see any of you blowhards there! Stop living in the past! Move forward!

After looking at the film breakdown and hearing him first hand I told Coach Verti what I thought the difference in the Carson game was:

1) He's putting players in position to make plays and except for a couple of plays here and there Amat wins by 14. Players make plays. Coaches put them in position to make plays. Simple as that! He's got them there. See for yourself on film! Men, the film doesn't lie!

2) Carson taught them the value of sustaining your block until the whistle blows not until you think you have to. That'll come but again players need to step up. Football is a game of inches. Look at the film, learn from your opponents, study, learn , DO! Again football is a game of inches!

Coach Verti is going to make it happen FASTER if you BLOWHARDS stop telling the whole freakin valley how much he sucks (after 1,2,3,4,5 games!)

If I were Verti I'd invite you LOUDMOUTHS in and embarass the hell out of you with how little you NUMBNUTS really know about football! Then I'd march your silly punk asses into the VARSITY locker room and have you read OUT LOUD to the players all your trifle Blog BS you spew about THEIR PROGRAM. Then I'd have my players BARK! BARK! BARK!BARK!!! you out of "their" VARSITY locker room! You know that might motivate the players to take ownership of their team and away from punk ass nostalgists!

Hell if that doesn't clear the fences I'm jumping the Snake River!

Now go out there and kick the tar out of St. Francis ---WIN or LOSE!!!

I'll go out Barry Bonds style and admire that blast for a moment................ because baby, that's GOING YARD!


randy said:

NEWS FLASH...this just in......this is blog is pure comedy....do you relaize that?...if any of you so called AMAT faithful had true balls, you'd be there at chalk talk with Verti instead of hiding behind your statements on your moms computer in the basement........your just pissin' in the wind bro!.....i do get a kick a out of this though, all you self proclaimed "prep sports experts" are killing me...i wonder who laughs harder, Verti? or Aram?.....i'm a just a fan of high school football, my kid goes to one of those "also-rans", one of those "has been" schools.....i just dig watching these kids pour there hearts out on friday nites....go tell Verti, face to face...its not polite to talk behind someones back there mr christian boy!

This just in! said:

This just in!

I have it from very reliable sources that Jon Mack and Bruce Rollinson were both interested in the Amat coaching positions. They were going to Co Head Coach! But somehow the powere sthat be at Fantasies Come True and Make A Wish Foundation wouldn't okay the deal. They are both clearly better than the coaches were have now and why those horrible organizations wouldn't give in is beyond me! For the love of God ! I also heard from very reliable sources that it was a massive conspiracy but together from deep in the bowels of all those Amat haters, and you know who you are, that got together every full moon for a year and collaborated to keep the pride of Blue and Gold down. I see no reason why the san gabriel valley wouldn't want to see Amat succeed. It's just sometinmes you have to deal with small mineded people who know they wish they were part of our program.

Know Nothings and Blow Hards Unite! said:

Foozballer and luvthisgame. I think you're the same guy. If you aren't you're the same type of guy. Randy had it right, "wouldn't want you in my fox hole." Maybe my prison cell but certainly not my fox hole!

You know very little about any point you claim to know something about, football, Amat pride, supporting the players or being a Christian! You are the worst of parents/alumni or just tailgate wannabe that any school could possibly tolerate.

You are completely void of any decency and filled with reckless anger and accusations. I doubt that you played, coached or had any constructive involment that didn't have people waiting for your tenure to expire.

Much like this site where you slam players, make ridiculous assertions and when given the opportunity to say something constructive, like offer a plan, instead you curl up in a ball and say 'I'm sorry' or worse write, "it's not my job to tell the coaches what to do!" That's all you've been doing.

The fact that you don't have a player on the squad makes it easier to spout off and crush kids. That's why you're so worthless as a fan much less an Amat Alumni.

And Randy goooess YARD! said:

Randy gooooooooeeeeeeeeesssssss YARD!!!!

Yup we're in mid season form! That was the most concise , intelligent thing I've ever heard! Here's crossing my fingers it continues!

luvthisgame said:

Randy,

For the record, I DO NOT HAVE A KID ON THE TEAM OR A PRIVATE AGENDA!!! I only want to see things done in an upright fashion, as THIS SCHOOL'S roots and history demands. As I stated before, I also was not blaming the QB solely for the losses. It is not his fault. The coach put this "scrub" in these situations knowing up front he wasn't good enough. It was seen and discussed on this blog long before the 1st game. Why do you think they are using Wells under center? Because "your boy" can't get it done. If you have some ties to him, I'm sorry and empathize with the pain and sense of loss you must be feeling. But why is he the only player that seems to be immune from getting the hook? Once again, only observations, but other players have been sat down for less.

Additional note Randy... if you ever played a TEAM sport, you would know the a coaches decision not to play someone does not qualify them as a scrub. Politics people, unfortunately its everwhere.

Nor am I hanging Verti. He needs to MAN UP and address his mistakes and his shortcomings. This team is reaping what he has sown, PERIOD. Stop playing these "starters" because your friends with the family, you made promises you shouldn't have, or because someone's pockets got padded in some way. Its shameful. IT'S HIS MESS, NOW CLEAN IT UP. Also... If you have played any card game, you know you can't and don't play the same cards over and over every hand, you shuffle the &%$!# deck!!!

The stands are quiet? How can you stand behind a man who doesn't stand for anything himself? Please understand I have followed this team for many years. This is not just some public or private school. It is a school whose foudation is set in Christianity. THAT IS 1ST AND FOREMOST!!!

No, you don't see any of our names in the program. Mainly because we had "too much expereince" or are "too expensive".

"If this team goes 2-1 in league..., if the team had Gaisie..., on and on". If I had a dollar for everytime some Bozo said that, I could pay the "expensive" coaches for AMAT. This is not some fairytale, its real life. Verti has been running the offense for a few years now and its on a steady decline. Thats the reality. These "scrub" coaches need to "step it up a notch."

randy said:

its just to convenient and ignorant to blame the QB for each loss....there are some problems on that team....and it starts with the coaching. Its also wayyyyy to soon to hang Verti---he needs to "play the cards" he was dealt...you Amat "faithful" ---yeah right, i wouldnt want you in my fox hole.....you folks need back the team, not divide and split it like you are trying to do on this blog, your/we're not actually gonna dictate who or how Verti is gonna to run things....we're just rambling on with our 2 cents to air out our own private agendas........at the Carson game and the RC game i felt like i was a rosary service, it sounded so friggin quiet in the stands......make some noise at the game, get behind your team....show this spirit that say your so proud of..... and uh oh by the way-----i didnt see any your names in the program under QB coach/QB consultant/QB advisory committee......if this team goes goes 2-1 in league, they will draw another second place team in the playoffs, not a MV or MD, who knows, look at what Loyola did, have some 'faith'....stop acting like this team went 14-0 last year with both O/D lines returning all their starters, they're doing what they can with what they have, advise those scrub kids of yours to step it up a notch a practice, instead you crying to us about how the coach aint playing your kid....

BA 24/7 said:

Amat Faithful,

The word on the hiring was kept very low key and the only real name that came out was Jon Mack of St. Bonaventure....Of course Johnny Mack was going to demand big bucks$$$$ and as we all know Mr. Carroll was NOT going to pay that, seeing how he could profit largely with his biggest money draw (the football season) and a young coach who did not demand money because he was in no position to due to lack of experience as a head coach, Monsignor C went the cheap route and as the old saying goes you get what you pay for. As what will work with this current talent. My Opinion is a Wing T on Offense...having Bonilla Wagner and McBride back there along with mixing in Wells that could be the solution.....Defensively I like the idea of the 4-3 with a CB blitz or a Middle linebacker blitz on 3rd down passing downs........Aguirre and Gano NO WAY!...Rollinson hell yes! But why would he leave MD?.....Amat is reaping the benefits at the gate, parking and programs/concessions not to mention that big 50/50, knowing the football program has a huge SGV following. Monsignor is no dummy he is raking in the dough and the fans suffer with this display of football....Hey it's only high school Football..business is business and we are having to pay for that new gym with this cheap($$) coaching staff.

foozballwatcher said:

Randy-saw your comments at the beginning & did not attack YOU. Passionate!ALWAYS Malicious-no! I read carefully & saw your entire blog. If you must have an apology-Sorry! Feel better.

Amat faithful-must be your first peak at the blog and information provided by bloggers to the Amat coaching staff. Although more detail is always good-why should we do the coaches jobs. The whole point we are all making is that the experience is lacking and it is smelling like old cheese in Las Vegas heat!

The past few games it appears alot of the suggestions made by bloggers were used in the games, however, the adjustments during the game is where the coaches seem to have problems. Maybe they should seek out a consultant for the rest of their season. It is obvious they just don't know what they are doing.

Amat faithful will always support the team, but it does not mean that they will not be honest with themselves about what they see from week to week and from game to game.

Amat blue & gold forever! Win or lose!

Joe Amat said:

Understanding football and knowing how to COACH are 2 completely different things. It seems these pups problems are the latter.

Amat faithful said:

Amat faithful

I hear alot of complaining about well everything but who were the candidates for the Amat Football job that were turned down? Was former Chino Coach Monger one of them? Pasquerrella? Heard Coach Rollinson wanted the job but was turned down? I heard former Carson Coach Aguirre wants back into coaching after a couple of years in Administration. How about Gano?

I hear alot of knowledge coming from the faithful but how about solutions. Most of what I hear is very vague.

What offense or defense should they run with their current personnel. Any suggestions? 4-3, 4-4 stack, 5-3, straight Okie Defense? Passing game, West Coast, long ball, Winged T, Power I, Option, how about a hybrid offense like Florida's Urban Meyers program? How about Denver's moving line Power back offense? Anything that you would tell the coaches that actually isn't vague?

Tommy T said:

Mike the Clown. Are you kidding me, what do you do copy your same blogs and change the names.
#1 Quit talking about the 9-10 year olds in Junior All-American, people are starting to talk.

#2 I have never yelled at a High School kid.

#3 How could I go to a JC Game when I will be going to a D-1 game.

#4 I'm not from Rowland, I'm from Riverside, you know JW North Country. (Chris Claiborne, The Morton Brothers, 5-0 this season 3 CIF football titles in ther last 8 years) You know the place where nobody will come from the SGV to play because they get worked. I just like watching my Nephew play football.

C'mon Clown Don't spout before you know the facts. Now put the rest of that sandwich down and throw in a salad once in a while so that your 300lb. body doesn't take up 2 seats at the Friday Night Games. PS Stay away from the Damien Game, Remember Damien is an all boys school. If you must go Don't wear your Kilt. Tommy T........Out

BA 24/7 said:

Old Amat Player,

That does not get in done in this day and age....Kid coaches swearing foul language at kid players....oh thats going to get it done......in this day and age you have to get in their heads and let them know you are with them not against them.......

old amat player said:

The current approach is play the game, come in on saturdays look at the film and get yelled at with foul language.

Sounds more like Joe Rodgers RIP and every coach in the 80's and 90's

Foozballer pleas read slowly! said:

Foozballer-

After YOU re-read my first TWO sentences I'll wait for your apology!

"That was alot of passion and fustration and it seems like you have a son on the team (with the inside locker room info)and lack of playing time is touchy because it sets you up for maliciuos "your son doesn't play so you're pissed " comments but THAT won't come from me."

Did you read it this time slower. I said "Those negative comments won't come from me.!!!!

My God! Amat parents are a little pissed off to say the least! I saw the game and Amat played well. They are just like I said before Great players mixed in with Very Average players that are playing their best football.

I'll be at the Coaches 7:30 chalk talk Tuesday. Just to hear their perspective. Call it morbid curiousity but I'll be there and I hope you are as well. Do they have a Q&A during or after? You might think about calming down though, before you get there.

But you're right I haven't seen all the games but Carson was a tough opponent and they deserved to win, almost in spite of their undisciplined ways. Can you really compare Carrillo with Carson's 6'4" 238 lb. Jr. QB..

You AMAT guys need to relax- what do you think going to happen? The AD is going to admit, because you say so, that he made a terrible mistake and fire every coach? NEWS FLASH -AIN"T GONNA HAPPEN! I agree that coaches should substitute and play more players, and again I mentioned Glendora's Coach Pasquerrella doing just that (v. Rowland)and the fans/parents/alumni were slamming Coach P. for that!

Try reading the whole blog and resist letting your trigger fingers jump to conclusions. We 're not far apart on this but again I'm just on the outside looking in as I said from the beginning.

Amat ever thought of making your "own" blog. Seriously that way you wouldn't look so cannabalistic and at times foolish.

joe said:

mike the clone,the jr all american lines are pretty damn old, if your going to come into the jungle have a take but don't suck because right about now you suck.Now for your bagpipers you will finish 3rd or 4th in league guaranteed.

BA 24/7 said:

Footballwatchers and luvthis game both great takes but it even stretches further then a QB subsitution. After 5 games and two more before league starts it seems like all the bugs have not been worked out, but they do show some signs of improvement with or without Gaise. I do believe this is HS ball and yes we do build for the future and yes that NO.2 QB should get some time in a real game time atmosphere. What are they going to do when and if Carrillo goes down, then go the bench with a QB that has not taken a live snap.like pre season football alternate these two QBS.. Carrillo 1st and 3rd quarter and Tamayo 2nd and 4th quarter or whatever way you want to slice up the quarters between them...Many kids I agree sit and watch from the sidelines and have the talent to be out there but this going both ways and playing at best a 20 man roster is not showing what your coaching is all about.....Mater Dei second unit could probably play with our first unit and that is not from talent that is from coaching....Take MD coach Rollinson and I know you cannot compare this Ledgend to this young man Verti ,but from what I understand Rollinson is the great motivator and gives the best pre game speeches that really gets his team going and pumped before games. I can say, allot of other coaches really build character and inspire their squads with a "no ones coming in our house" speech before gametime. From what I hear that is not going on in the AMAT locker room... only a hand out on paper as to what to look for in the other team...How is that for communication....HORRIBLE!!!!!!! I think Verti is a very capable young coach and we must play with the cards that we have been dealt, but he needs mature more and study these great programs on how they get it done. He is only ten years older than his players...Is the respect there for him as a coach?...it looks like on the surface but you know it is not. The current approach is play the game, come in on saturdays look at the film and get yelled at with foul language. This is not just Verti but from all of his staff....foul language as a source getting thru to a player(and this is a catholic school) only distances them further from the program....now I am not saying pamper them and not get in their face but their is a correct approach to this and theirs is not working......there is dissarray on the team right now and I will not to go into specifics, but if Verti does not get a hold of this team in the next couple of games it will spiral downhill from there. Start playing your bench in these next two games coach, then you will really know what you have going into league...You are burning out your 20 man football team as the other 40 remain as spectators on the sidelines......Non league is what gets you ready for league....go 0-5 who cares, as long as you got it all worked out by game one in league and you know how deep your team really is.....you will never know with the way it is being handled right now.......There is some unused talent there waiting for the chance but they will not ask about playing time in fear of getting put in a coaches doghouse. From Game one we should have been working most of these kids in slowly....But hey thats coaching Experience for you....

foozballwatcher said:

It always makes me chuckle when people assume that you have to be a disgruntled parent because you're not willing to agree with the injustice that takes place. Like it or not, almost but not exactly, it is wrong to have 40 plus players sitting on the sidelines doing nothing & expecting them to be cheerleaders. You see validity in my points because what I say makes sense and if you were thinking clearly you would be on the side of what is right. Coaches who do this to have a strong showing in numbers on the sidelines, but should be ashamed to call themselves coaches. It's a disgrace! You say "As far as the QB goes. He's serviceable, means he handles his business. See him on quick snaps, sneaks, strong arm and what not, he 's a QB". Look at the stats, no one has to argue, the proof is in black & white. The stats aren't pretty! The bottom line is that Amat is failing miserably. The coaching is not even mediocre at best and they will not win this year, next or as long as they have an inexperienced coaching staff and head coach who did not have the gumption to get some experience in the assistant coaching positions. So stop making excuses and whining when the losses come. Amat was doomed when the decision was made to make Verti head coach. They saw what he did as an Offensive coordinator, so he never should have been in running to an assistant coaching position to be quite honest. But nonetheless they gave him the top spot. The key word is GAVE, because his resume does not show that it was earned. As has been outlined be many on this blog since the season began, there were QUALIFIED candidates who never had a chance. HMMMMMMMM!

luvthisgame said:

Hey Randy, I didn't know I was going to ruffle your feathers like that. But you sound like a reasonable person with some football knowledge so I want to respond to the following quotes from your earlier post...

"how many rushing TD's does Carrillo have?, How many times has he converted on 3rd/4th and short?....questioning his leadership? he doesnt play defense does he?...he didnt give up the 59 points then 39 points back to back did he?..."

Yes, Carillo has rushing TDs. They are all from QB sneeks inside the 3 yard line. 3rd/4th and short, the same thing. Less than 2 yards/ carry.An trained zombie could have scored those TDs from that point. Thats not leadership. The ball could have and should have gone to the RBs to reward them for getting the team into scoring position, not pad Carrillo's stats. Thats real leadership and coaching. Think that same play is going to continue to work against those same PAC 5 schools you spoke of? Besides I thought Carrillo was the guy because of his arm, not his legs. I guess not because he has more INTs than rushing and passing TDs combined. We all know the other QBs on this team are faster, just take your pick.

No Carrillo is not on defense, but he might as well be if he cant sustain drives on offense to keep the AMAT defense off the field long enough to get a blow.

"i think those Amat kids are either to gassed at the end or maybe just not as big as we'd like them to be, or as quick.... now we're half way through here, we could easily be 3-2, but your fooling yourself if you think one of the underclassmen QB's ALONE woulda made the differnce to any better of a record...."you dance with the girl you brought" "

Gassed at the end? See comment above about keeping the D off the field. AMAT could also easily be 1-4 if not for the game saving tackle by McBride in the St. Paul game. It goes both ways. These underclassmen QB's could make a difference. It sure could get any worse with them in. Like it or not, they are the future for next year, so see what they got in game and that ends the speculation. What happens if they do well? Then everyone in the stands and on this blog will question why they didn't play earlier. Is that why they won't play them now?

By the way, the phase is "you dance with who brung ya" and at this rate, AMAT isnt going to make it to the dance.So, lets squaredance and "switch partners, doe-see-doe."

"HOPE that these coaches focus and work on playing within the strengths of this offense...instead of trying to please the moms and dads in the stands with gimmicks & gadgets!......"

Your absolutely right!!! Play within the strengths of this offense, its future. Work those "underclassmen" in and build a dominate and experienced offense that can carry the load next year, without doubt. The "serviceable" seniors are not getting it done and have had half a season to show it. Build for the future, save the Tradition.

Almost but not excactly said:

Foozballwatcher-
That was alot of passiona and fustration! And it seems like you have a son on the team (with the locker room info) and lack of playing time is touchy because it sets you up for malicious "your son doesn't play so you're pissed" comments but That won't come from me.
Yeah I see alot of validity to most your points. Especially the lack of plaing time for players. See the Glendora posts vs. Rowland and see how many complaints there were that "new" players saw action! The Varsity level is FAST!!! If someone hasn't played at that level well it's tough to understand.Same thing as you go higher, just ask ANY former HS stud what happened his 1st JC game, imagine Div I college? Sports Illustrated highlights HS kids and one was Senoir DT 6'3" 300 and ran 4.63 and benched 360 8x! wow, wow and unbelievable!
Advice to players on the sidelines "MENTALLY make your practices YOUR games! 4 Quarters, game speed! That's it! Go 100% and light someone up! Make the "wooo" hits! Piss starters off and bring them down a notch! Volunteer to play out of position, line up against the best starters and get noticed!" I went from 4th string to 1st in one season so it CAN be done, IF your coaches let you compete and appreciate YOUR will.

As far as the QB goes. He's serviceable, means he handles his business. See him on quick snaps sneaks, strong arm and what not he 's a QB.(welcome to an EXCLUSIVE FRATERNITY (STARTING VARSITY QB)- it's for LIFE!) I sucked at that position but played it as best I could and I ALWAYS say this"

"QBs have 11 guys trying to kill him, one or more "guys" in the bird telling them HOW to kill me! WRs that think we should pass more, RBs thinking we should run more and at least one lineman who thinks I hold the ball too long! On top of that if I get sacked blindsided I HAVE to get up! No matter what! And finally some "know nothing" standing next to a "know it all" in the stands is telling everyone that the second stringer is better.

And what is a QB's job? To make the Defense fear you, steady the O-line, outwit the men in the "bird", make throws that you'll never get the chance to see caught because you're on your back, call audibles, Run when cornered and "tell everyone in the huddle "YOU GUYS ARE KICKING ASS!" So please lay off Carrillo. He's the man. Probably for all the reason's I already mentioned. Oh yeah, getting the praise and a pretty girl is nice too!

I worked with a HS WR this summer. I was throwing the ball high and low, behind him and making him reach. Like Coach Zavala taught me to work receivers. He'd say, "Any Ass@@# can catch the easy ones but the GREAT ones catch EVERYTHING!" Anyway after about 25 throws this kid tells me that my passes are off, that my arm strenght is bad!" Like I'm wasting HIS time. I tell him this, "when you get on a team with 30 QBs and two receivers YOU LET ME KNOW! Your JOB is to CATCH EVERYTHING! Stop complaining and make a GOD DAMN CATCH!! He caught everything from that point on! Last time I checked he's "in all the papers!" Not because of me but because he understood HIS role! Evryone's role is tough ,no doubt, but none are more scrutinized, analyzed and critized than the QB, 'nuff said on that!

My one question regarding Amat, and some other HS coaches is WHY DO THEY NEED TO TELL THE QB THE PLAY ON THE SIDELINES AND THEN HAVE HIM RUN BACK TO THE HUDDLE AFTER EVERY PLAY!!`that's total non-sense! AnD a poor use of valuable time! QBs need to be in the huddle MANAGING the team, settling them down, encouraging them, telling everyone to SHUT UP! whatever! When a situation comes up after a long pass or run and a coach pulled me aside or motioned me over it was to tell me something IMPORTANT! Not to show the crowd HE'S IN TOTAL CONTROL! I'm sorry that's stupidity of the highest order! Can you imagine all the NONSENSE that's going on in the huddle! Stupid Stupid Stupid!

wow said:

"if you must go down go down fighting" is that what the coach for MD hight school told his players.

shfan said:

anti17, that is a good point. i think that when you decide to 'go for the win' you are showing confidence in your offense, and a 'no guts no glory attitude'. but i am not sure that it needed to be done with 3 mins left in the game. i think it also shows a slight doubt in your defense. i wasn't there so i don't know the exact situation, and maybe the SH thought they saw something they could take advantage of.

i also spoke with a couple players after the game, (about 4 of them) and when i asked them what do they think the difference is, and why do they think they are losing these close games. and, all of them said that it is more apparant than ever that Ryan is the missing link. Not only did he bring dominant line play on both sides of the ball, but they all said that he brought a discipline that is now lost. i really hope that SH can right the ship, i would hate to see them lose 2 more games (which is very possible) and end up 4-6.

foozballwatcher said:

AMAT/CARSON Game:

Amat fans that is the leadership & motivation Amat players get from this head coach. Someone mentioned he saw the coaches maturing. I must say, if this is maturation, what would be considered juvenile? Coach Verti really has made a mess of this team on & off of the field. You’re responsible for molding the minds of young men. Hard work should equate to a chance to play in a game. Dedication should mean something to a coach when a player gives their all in practice. It would appear the rumors of coaches playing favorites has infiltrated the locker room & brought down the integrity of the Amat players and tradition. It is shameful & embarrassing!

The Carson game actually should not have been a loss. At least Coach Verti admitted that the responsibility for the loss was his. Miracles never cease! You are heading in the right direction.

Luvthisgame summarized this game well, I agree that a QB change is in order, but Wells is not the one to fill those shoes. Wells makes Carillo look better than he is, because Wells is hungry and extremely athletic. But he will not be capable of keeping up this pace for another five games. I cannot believe the continued comments about the “youth� of this team. There are quite a few players on this team that I recognized from J.A.A. & Pop Warner youth football who may have more playing time and experience than the head coach. I watched some of these players walk all over their counterparts in youth football. They are now Juniors & Seniors like their opponents, some with 8 and 9 years of football player experience. Some of them already have had youth football championships under their belts. I know, the argument is this is Varsity football, but most of these players have been matched against these same kids as some point in the youth leagues. Those that have not will learn quickly that the pace is different and the politics are worse in some cases.

Kept my promise-the QB may be serviceable, but he does not appear to be salvageable. He is consistently inconsistent!

John- Amat is not the best team in the Valley. And by the way, Rancho C. is in the Inland Empire.

Amat has no dimension & trick plays don’t bring that. Even the coaches are trying to put to work some out of the box thinking, this would not be the way to do it.

Bluorca-missing Gaisie may be your way of determining the losses & the missing link, but let’s be honest; McBride is bigger, faster, & quicker! He brings more dimension to the offense & can lend some defense with his speed as seen in the St. Paul recovery. No hate for Gaisie here, just some clear thinking. Also in regards to scouts, granted they find players everywhere, but I not sure they are knocking down the Amat doors.

Randy-great suggestions, but you need a QB with touch, every ball cannot be thrown hard or you get picks. Placement is also a key to an effective offense too and unfortunately, the QB throws the ball to the defense or the sidelines when there are open men who get 6. Too many times it appears that the QB is running the play the way it was orchestrated on paper without paying attention to the double coverage or the location of the DB and the Safety. This is the reason there are so many picks thrown. I gotta agree with luvthisgame with someone else under Center the pace does change. But I do agree Wells cannot do the job at QB.

ME & All good points-how could you be impressed by the coaches BIOS. They are mediocre at best! Youth football coaches have more experience on average and coach better too. Can you say adjustment?

In all honesty, I am hopeful that Amat will be able to win at least a few more games because the players deserve to see the fruits of their labor, but it appears unlikely with the teams that they are facing in the coming weeks. Good luck Amat! If you must go down, go down fighting and wearing the Amat Lancer Blue & Gold.


foozballwatcher said:

AMAT:

AMAT/CARSON Game:

As usual, the conflict continues! Blog after blog justifying the Amat losses & bad decisions made by the Amat coaching staff. Please STOP already! Come back to REALITY!

Comments like the QB is serviceable, Amat is the best team in the valley, without Gaisie this & that, this is a young team, read the coaches BIOS, etc. Poppycock!

This team has count them more than 40 players on the sidelines who devote 17 + hours of their time every week in the hopes of becoming one of Verti’s favorites of the week, so that they can play on this enamored Amat team. Some players consistently outplay others in the starting positions to get passed over week after week. As one writer a while back so eloquently put it, the job of a coach is to mold young men during this football playing process. The head coach is supposed to be fair, open-minded & have integrity. A player should be able to depend on the coach to have integrity. A man’s word is his bond.

Why is there upheaval in the Amat locker room this year? Guaranteed! This would not have happened on DiFiori’s watch. Without shedding light on Amat’s dirty laundry, changes have to be made! Verti be careful of the behavior you allow.

Amat fans are tough & supportive, as they should be. However, REALISM is imperative. The coaching has improved to what degree? Because Amat is resorting to trick plays and use of the same players on both sides of the ball, this is seen as improvement? What are the other 40+ players on the sidelines expected do to contribute? CHEERLEAD, is what the Coach Verti told them. He wants these players to be cheerleaders because everyone will not play. REAL encouraging Coach Verti! When you played high school football did you want to be a cheerleader or a player? You expect these young men to give 17 plus hours of their time to be cheerleaders (or based on the practices tackling dummies & bystanders). Come on now! You expect hard work, dedication & inter-squad competition in practice after this speech? Just a reminder Coach V, the cheerleaders are on the dirt track, not the grass sideline & they don’t practice hard for you every week for over 17 hours.

Amat fans, that is the leadership & motivation Amat players get from this head coach. Someone mentioned he saw the coaches maturing. I must say, if this is maturation, what would be considered juvenile? Coach Verti really has made a mess of this team on & off of the field. You’re responsible for molding the minds of young men. Hard work should equate to a chance to play in a game. Dedication should mean something to a coach when a player gives their all in practice. It would appear the rumors of coaches playing favorites has infiltrated the locker room & brought down the integrity of the Amat players and tradition. It is shameful & embarrassing!

Mike said:

Greetings!

I’m Mike the clone and you are not.

One last blast before I move on to the task ahead…. Damien.

Tommy T, yeah that was clutch with that "Saturday" comment. Pat your self on the back my man. That was a great smack down on me. I'll take my licks like a man.

Man I’ve been having some fun with you Rowland folks you are sensitive bunch!

Oh and by way congrats to Joe on his fine “High School� career.

Tommy T the only game you will be at on Saturday are the games you’re the head coach of and that would be that Junior All-American football team you coach. Have fun yelling at a bunch of 9 & 10 year olds you’re the man. Hey by the way post a “sched� so we can all come see your kids play “Snoops All Stars�. Can’t wait to see that bus!!!

After your big Saturday Pee Wee games you should really come up to a Citrus College game and watch Marquez Smith a Rowland Alum play on Saturday.

I think we all know now who the fool was yelling at those high school kids last Friday night.

Snack bar? They had a snack bar there? I thought that was the restroom.

Now with that rant said, it’s time to move on from you "Ro Ro" folks to bigger and better teams like Damien. Wish us luck Tommy T because my “bagpipers� are going to need it and remember you’re the man!

Good Night Now!


To Jimbo From Jim Garrison said:

First of all, against Cantwell Bosco had two TDs and 118 total yards of offense taken away after "questionable" penalty calls. Salesian rolled us, but we kept shooting ourselves in the foot in this game. It would have been 17-14 at half with Bosco getting the ball back if there wasn't a questionable holding call that brought back an 80 yard TD pass. Total momentum killer. One of the refs had to be taken off in an ambulance after getting cracked on a play, so I admit they were working short handed but it led to some chippy play at the end. Refs missed two facemasking calls and a late hit in the last quarter which frustrated some Bosco players and led to an "almost" fight on the field.

As for the Rowland-Glendora game... I think Snyder said it best. Our guys have to play for 48 and against good teams like Glendora that eventually takes away the speend and talent advantages that we had. But hey, I never predicted a win, I just said that we weren't getting the coverage nor respect we deserved and that it would be a good game. I was right on both counts.

As for respectful comments coming out of Glendora fans? Not going to happen. Artesia's still waiting for some respect after the O'Bannon brothers worked Tracey The Stump Murray back in the days.

All good points! But... said:

Here goes!
BA/24- Straight as I can put it, with fans like you it's tough being a player and having pride in your "fans". That's a two way street you're on! Hope a Amat player doesn't come on here and "wish for the good 'ol AMAT fans" of yesteryear!

Plaidman- Maybe Coach P was in the "bird" to see in real time how his QBs were "seeing" the field. That's my guess, and probably a good one. If he played alot of "new players" he was giving them and their poisition coaches the ultimate "compliment" by showing confidence in their abilities and "throwing them into the fire" in a BIG GAME! And from the "bird" he was doing just that!

Tommy T- "Saturday" blast was clutch!

Luvthisgame- The part of the bios regarding Amat coaches I referenced were their "coaching" HS accomplishments not their college playing careers. Remember if you READ the bios carefully, most sustained "career ending injuries early" in college. So luv the game but get it right and take your time. lol

I was at the game as well and I'll agree with you I heard disturbing comments about locker room nonsense that surprised me as well. But I'll say this you stay a while after a game at Amat and parents, alumni and players are talking openly about "how they felt the game, who and what they liked or didn't like about, whatever!" That's Amat tailgating before and after the game. Hey better to let your feeling known upfront rather than playing mind games. For better or worse!


randy said:

hey uh "luv this game".......Wells does a nice job of running his routes, and catching the damn ball.......but he does not belong under center, any fool can see that he is taking off like a jack rabbit as soon as the rock is snapped to him in the "fake" version of the spread offense......and we all know that aint gonna fly against a well disciplined defense that the PAC 5 is loaded with....he's a one dimensional "QB", he's not the answer this year at that position...its a nice gimmick, it gives them a diff look, but once its snapped---YOU KNOW HE'S RUNNING.... ok now Carrillo may not have the seasoned polish look of a "3 yr starter" (oh yeah--- that other guy lead his team to how many CIF runs?) hitting all his timimg routes, and sporting a finesse touch, but he can hit a guy running hard on a slant or on a post up field cuz he likes to throw it HARD......now as for the sack, how many times are you gonna hope the D bites on a fake reverse???...this isnt 7th grade flag football.....they shoulda kept running the ball on that series, they should have attacked the defense that was on roller skates going backwards, not tried some trick play again, how many rushing TD's does Carrillo have?, How many times has he converted on 3rd/4th and short?....questioning his leadership? he doesnt play defense does he?...he didnt give up the 59 points then 39 points back to back did he?...they need to bear down here at this point in the season and focus on doing what works, and dropping the crap that isnt.......the line play is was wins these DIV 1/PAC 5 games in the end any way you look at it, and i think those Amat kids are either to gassed at the end or maybe just not as big as we'd like them to be, or as quick.... now we're half way through here, we could easily be 3-2, but your fooling yourself if you think one of the underclassmen QB's ALONE woulda made the differnce to any better of a record...."you dance with the girl you brought" ,even without Gaise they were throwing blows with the City's best....., HOPE that these coaches focus and work on playing within the strengths of this offense...instead of trying to please the moms and dads in the stands with gimmicks & gadgets!......

Promise cont. said:

Regarding D.A.,

99.9% was very positive about D.A. The .1% was an observation regarding his "speed" technique (previously mentioned to me and the reason why I went, amongst others) and really was directed towards the coaches, which I like, addressing. It would be interesting to hear from the coaches why he's in that technique. The other point in terms of overusing him, I stand by and I think properly addressed. Maybe it was the technique, maybe it was Carson's line, maybe it was fatigue- This I KNOW , he never gave up or shook his head and complained like I've seen MANY HS players do in the past! He's very, very coachable, and that means Any school would do well signing D.A. next Spring. ( My guess he's probably a UCLA type player, Remember Erv Eatman, well that's who he'll remind people of if he works HARD in the off-season)

So I see your point but I made it here to highlight D.A.'s "diamond in the rough" recruit promise. Just like I did above, again. Remember it was 99.9% positive and that's a direct reflection on D.A., his parents, his coaches and more importantly to his "coachability."

Hope that clears thing up J.B. It was refreshing to hear a reasoned question or observation rather than a hostile "who are you to comment" slur. Hopefully we're all finding better footing here. Good luck to D.A./Amat the rest of the way!

luvthisgame said:

Was at the Amat game Friday. Blueorca and BA 24/7 I appreciate your "glass half full" approach. I cant however accept the we're young BS I keep hearing. I picked up a program and there are 70+ players on the roster, almost half are seniors and only 7 are sophmores. So please, let's all stop with the we're young excuse, its embarassing.

John, I agree that Gaisie is an important factor in the the game. But we cant use that as a crutch either. John, your also right Rancho did beat West Co, but West Co would argue that the game would have been different if their 2 studs were in that game. You play the game with what you have, injuries or not, no excuses.

Randy, you made good points also, you cant blame Carrillo solely for the loss. It is a team loss. No one would question any players heart on that team after watching the game. However, decision making and leadership are a whole different ballgame. The passing was suspect at best. 2 INTs at critical points in the game. There should have been 4, but luck for the Lancers the Carson DB's had bad hands.

You have to give #2 Dorian Wells the credit for the majority of the passing yards in the last few games. He made most catches, and several of those out of poorly thrown balls. Look at all the passes he couldn't get too. You could see the frustration on his face and in his body language. The big pass in Friday's game was off of a fake reverse. But if you recall, the huge sack Carrillo took was when they tried that play again and Carson didn't bite. Wells also made big plays when he was under center. The pace of the offense changed and the ball moved down the field in chunks. Just imagine what the offense would look like if the Lancers had a threat like that under center all game. AMAT could have that, this season with Wells or another QB, but have chosen against it.

ME, the coaching staffs bios are impressive when it comes to playing at the high school level. No one would dispute that. But, you would agree that the best coaches usually were not the best players, in any team sport, in any era. A few examples are: Charlie Weiss-NE,ND; Pete Carroll-USC; Phil Jackson-Bulls,Lakers; Bill Parcels- Cowboys; Vince Lombardi-Green Bay, etc. Magic Johnson tried, it didn't work. Larry Bird tried, he threw in the towel and went to the front office. Few have had true documented success, Bill Russell-Celtics and he was a player/coach.

As a fan of the game, I must say I was disappionted in the comments and actions I heard from players after the game. You all are representing a school with tradition, yourselves and your families. But first and foremost, you are young men of God and represent Him at all times, good or bad. Your coaches have a responsibilty to be models of this proper behavior as well, on and off the field and in how they treat you as their players. This is what it truly means to be an AMAT Lancer. It is your school motto.

Tommy T said:

Rowland vs. Glendora
This was a great game. Unfortunatly Glendora out-coached Rowland in the 2nd half. Glendora dominated the line of scrimmage in the 2nd half. What a great call by the Gledora coach to go for 2 after the first TD in the 2nd half. That changed the game or it's a Tie. Rowland had the ball on the 15 yard line with 3+ minutes after just driving 55 yards in 3 plays and the coaches decided to run it up the middle and kick the field goal that was blocked. If the Glendora coach doesn't go for 2 then Rowland scores a TD and wins by 7. The Rowland coaches let the Glendora coaches control the game with the extra point. QB Chase threw for 59 yards, one pass to TE Norys for 39 yards in the first half. One pass thrown to TE Norys, One pass to TE Norys, One pass to TE Norys. Rowland Coaches, How about opening up the middle with some down and out passes so that some of the 30 plays that you run up the middle might gain more that 3 yards at a time. Every time RB Small ran to the outside he gained 15 yards+, Every time RB Small ran to the outside he gained 15 yards+, 15 yards+, 15 yards+. Watch the Gledora game film and you will see a good coaching job. Outside passes, miss direction open up the middle and score. The Rowland defense had one of their LB moving from the LB position to a down lineman position. (coaches guessing game). You see this everywhere, when a coach decides to play conservative they loose. You have to play to WIN. PERIOD !!!!!!!!

Buck and the rest of the Glendora faithful, this was a 1 point win, so your not better than Rowland. Your Basketball team is better than Rowland's but not the football Team

By the way Mike the Clone, I wouldn't want to be you. Sounds to me like you were at the snack bar while watching the game because your analysis is whack. By the way, Joe did strap on the gear at a little school called Los Altos. Check their Championship record for the last 30+ years. Also next year we'll be at football games on Saturday, you'll still be at the snack bar or at home watching FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS. Tommy T OUT!!!!!!!!!!

Plaid Man said:

Hey Aram, in my victory haze (relief?) after a big Tartan win over a tough Rowland foe (and remember folks, we beat them on their turf) I looked at the Trib. scoreboard (nice addition!) and wondered to myself just who you were going to vault to the top spot this week. Top teams loosing, Damien idle, we just knock of #2 on the road...I figured you just couldn't/wouldn't do it though(put us there). That's OK though because if Damien is #1 and we're #2 (or 3), that sets up Friday night just fine for us Kilts. We haven't played as good as we can yet so we probably don't deserve it. Not sure just what coach was doing in that game either rotating QB's and some 2nd unit guys getting more action on O. Must have been trying to hide some things from Damien or exploring some things for league or whatever, but I hope there's more & better to come. This team could be VERY good. For what it's worth, CalPreps has them rated higher than any other team in the valley, just ahead of W. Covina at #35 in the whole southern half of the state. Also tops in Sierra league with Damien a litte ways back in third...and strength of schedule seems to play a pretty big role in that ranking system. Anyway, a win over DHS and the Tartens will get what they deserve. Wins over 4 other top rated programs in the valley (& QB's) should cement them at the top this year and just about clinch a CIF berth. With Chino Hills the following week we'll know a whole lot about this team's season just 2 games into league. Bring your best Spartens, we expect nothing less than a great game!

BA 24/7 said:

The Lancers are getting better and the coaching staff is starting to bring out new and improved schemes on the Offense. This was a very difficult Carson team and the game was always there at hand to take. Mistakes again killed us and I hope we have it all soved by League play. the next two games, St. Francis and Chaminade will be the true test of this team without Gaise. Lets face this season knowing we have lost Gaise and when and if he returns that may or may not have a impact in this season. This injury looks to be more serious. Lets Support McBride and whomever else coach Verti puts back there. This years team is only going so far and we all know it. A playoff spot would be great but lets all be realist this is not our year but lets continue the support. Our group of Seniors this year is not top notch.....next year is our year...Our juniors are making the impact right now, Imagine next year....barring no major injuries next year our team will be big force next year......Hang in there Lancer Faithful....we are almost back....I still support this present team win or lose...they are not that bad but again they are not that good....

Mike said:

Big Fella,

Dude are kidding me of course I watch it.I mean come on you have this beautiful girl below the fold on the front page every morning and then you open up the Trib's web page and there she is again.The suits at the Tribune are very wise.

It's to the point now that I start with Nisha before I read you. Besides she is better looking than you are big guy.I will have to admit, sometimes I just stare and have no idea what's she was saying..........Just kidding. Heck man I even have the hacks in my office crowding around my computer at 9:00 at work just to see what she is looking like each day.It's the best three minutes of the day M-F.

Aram said:

Mike the Clone,

Be honest with me, do you watch Nisha's newscast? Do any of you guys, for that matter? I want to know how many people are watching it, and be honest.

Mike said:

Greetings!

I m Mike the Clone and you are not!

BUCK.........That was sweet! Way to swing into Arams jungle.I don't know who the hell you are but man you swung for the fence and knocked that sucker out the ballpark. That was a concise blast and you brought up some points that I saw but forgot to mention in my own rant. You Buck my friend knows of which you speak.


Yeah I forgot about “Pasqie� being up top. What the hell was Pasqie doing up there on that scissor, trying to find the quickest way home out of that mess down there.Next time I think I'll rent a copter and fly in just to avoid that traffic gridlock.

Oh and Buck you sly devil, her name is Nisha and I bet she has too much class to be jumping up and down on that trampoline. I think Aram should bring her into his jungle here and have her pick the Bagpiper/Damien game. Heck Jackie Johnson on KCAL even joins the “Big Show� once in awhile.I bet ya Nisha would pick the "Bagpipers"

Out!

anti17 said:

First off, is it me or is the "fashionable" thing to do in the SGV this year IS GO FOR THE TWO POINT CONVERSION!!!
i think when Gano went for two early this year against South Hills and pulled out the victory, we all praised his guts and willingness to put it all on the line, so thus in this weeks instance, we need to look at it from the opposite angle, no way shape or form was his going for two validated with 3 plus minutes left in the game, seems that call early in the year paved the way for this decision as well. Now im not sure of what is right or wrong on this next comment, but is playing for the tie always the wrong option? this i truly am torn between, any comments? Just to me, seems that when LA went for two in that week 0 game everyone felt that they needed to be measured at the same level as Gano/LA and now everyone is doing it, hmmmm, jus makes me wonder if LA would have played for the tie in that week 0 game, how many valey coaches would have been OK with playing for the tie in those critical situations, u know?
Lastly, A.T...you must feel like it groundhogs day at times, having to justify and re-justify your points and comments to some of out deer freinds in this forum. Good luck man...

Aram said:

Covinafan,

Your comment did not run because it's not true. Don't post erroneous stuff like that with any expectation of it actually running.

1fan said:

west covina will be HOME for charter oak!!!!!!
charter oak better be ready,

joe said:

glendora dont hype yourself to much if you think your #1 in sgv then sgv is not to strong you only won by 1 point good night now.

Looker said:

Hey KEEP MY PROMISE or ME ONLY

Your accessment on Amat's Jr. #79 Austin was real good but why would you put this information on the blog? How about discussing that with his parents.

If you don't mind me commenting :), I don't agree with you regarding him playing defense. He's not some big kid they need on defense. #79 is young and he is still learning the position just like the rest of the young players on Amat's team. If you would have been at all the games this year, you would see how effective he really is. He will get better and continue to make an impact. I believe this is his first year on defense. This is his second year on offense and he knows Coach Verti's system. Coach Chewie wouldn't have him on the field just for height. There are plenty of other good players on that team that could play his position. There's nothing wrong with playing both ways if you can handle it. Austin along with Jr's Wells, Silva, Bonilla, & Stremple have made a huge impact on the team playing both on offense and defense. *The problem is there are more players on the team who could big effective too*. Like you said the coaching staff is good for the price. At Chalk Talk on Tuesday's night, you can see on tape Austin's impact on the field. Coach Verti goes over the entire game and points to the small stuff which occurs during games.

Keep up the work guys, your getting better every week. GO AMAT

J.B.

BUCK said:

GLENDORA, what was that? I am posting late because I am still trying to figure out what the hell you were doing in the first half, Coach "P", I love you man, but whats up with alternating QB's, Crook hit every reciever he was supposed to in the hands (except for the 2 balls batted at the line), every week, he and the receivers have been getting better. I am all in favor of giving back-up snaps, but not against a 4-0 team. You guys go 80 yds on three run plays, get a turn over, put a sophomore QB in and throw the ball, for an interception, GO FOR THE THROAT, make them stop the run. Once you were done assisting the CHP with speeders on Colima and came down from the crows nest, you guys starting playing like a real football team. Who was the Abercrombie & Fitch model on the field you had calling the plays? I am sure the women and cheerleaders appreciated it but that was a terrible first half of play calling. Put the defensive coordinator up in the nest so he can't call timeouts anymore, he has called five defensive time outs in last two games in the last few minutes,GEEEZ. #20 for glendora needs to run his butt off at practice, this was the second time his "unsportsmanlike conduct " penalty has kept a drive alive at a crucial time of the game, lock it up and play the game. Glendora needs to eliminate their first half nonsence, if they can, they will give every team a run for their money. As for Rowland, they were a pretty good team, I do not think a #2 rated team, but still a good team. Do something about the knucklehead yelling at the opposing players and their own guys, it's embarrasing for your school. Rowland Coach, don't make excuses because your guys go both ways, you had a lot of players suited up on your side of the field you could have shuffled in. A lot of players tells me your a good high school coach, a lot like coach "P", kids willing to come out and participate, go through drills and not play, they must like you, that is what high school football is all about, learning to work as a team, you should be very proud. Good Luck with the rest of the season. As for our leader Aram, you have been right on so far regarding Glendora, until they can put together 4 full quarters of good football, they should not be picked as the favorite. Hey, I heard this new cable company is pulling your local sports show, Those Bastards, I say you set up shop on top of Kam Kings gym with some pirated satelite, I am sure some of your blogger crew has some computer talent to tap into a satelite somewhere. Oh, I'm not sure who the reporterette is you guys were talking about earlier this week, but it sounds like if she wants to jump on a trampoline in the background while your doing the show, that probably would not hurt ratings. Glendora, stay together, play together, things will work out.

tupacisalive said:

a did anyone watch the south hills versus rancho game.? so much for a blow out.

ghs said:

Glendora Vs. Damien.........Game of the year in the vally????

yeah right said:

what kind of excuses are the Amat fans going to have when they lose to st francis, that they are still the best team in SGV and they play harder teams excuse after excuse its the coach, its a young team we play hard with pride its all getting old

Dave41857 said:

GT has beat Damien the last 2 years.
Damian was favored both.
GT beat Damian JV last year. Most of those players are now under the lights.
This year...Close game!
GT 20- Damian 19

One other thing.
The reason Glendora is winning is because of the running game. Don't forget the big guys up front.
Jake and Jordan don't go anywhere without that O. Line that is whearing out the d. lines in the valley.

Mike said:

A.T.

You are correct about not being soft. I had a momentary lost of my other wise perfect judgment. I bad.

Your extremely perfect observations and assessments of my “Bagpipers� is profoundly remarkable. That’s why you are the man!

Say to Nisha for me will ya!

Good Night Now!

1fan said:

west covina was the top bulldog on friday at ayala

Better to win ugly said:

Aram,

BETTER TO WIN UGLY WITH A 4-1 (5-0 BY 1 POINT!)THEN LOSE PRETTY! MAYBE GLENDORA WILL BE KNOWN AS THE SIERRA LEAGUE TEAM THAT WINS THE LEAGUE UGLY!
I DON'T THINK THERE IS A BOX TO CHECK AT THE END OF THE SCORE CARD: DID YOU WIN UGLY OR DID YOU WIN PRETTY?

How 42? said:

How 42?

How is Glendora clearly the better team when they beat ,what was in their mind, an inferior team by 1 point! Maybe you've been Hammered by Vega a few too many times and you're incapable of giving a worthy opponent credit. They scored on your
defense at least 4 times! They can't all be flukes! They put 1 point less on you than Capo Valley. The only thing I regret is that they didn't beat you just so I could marvel at the creative writing this blog would have witnessed.

Nut up and admit it, you didn't have a bad day or under estimated them, they just packed a better lunch than you excepted! And that's your bad!

If you were clearly the better team you wouldn't have made all those mistakes against Rowland. Maybe you won't have laid down for Capo Valley. And clearly IF you were the better team you would have won with class!

GP said:

74, yet Another mature posting from a self righteous damien bighead. Something's never change do they?

74 said:

how about those 50 cent hotdogs at the end of the rowland glendora game

randy said:

uh "joe Amat"...it was never 21-3.....it was 7-0 carson in the 1st qtr, then tied at 7,....14-7 at half carson, then they went up 21-7 in the 3rd qtr, when Amat came right back down the field only to have a fade picked off---while in the end zone, when they just shoulda ran the damn ball across the goal line......alright,then Amat scores in the 4th, but theres a problem with the snap/hold (again)...so they they are down 21-13 mid way through the 4th qtr....when the last Amat drive is stopped with 45 seconds to go at mid field..........dont be talking 21-3 if you werent there dude....nice 2 inches of ink that the trib gave the game, way to be a front runner there A.T., we'll see how much longer Glendora and Rowland have with their prep headlines.....yeah OK........

Aram said:

Mike the Clone,

When did I say Glendora looked good? I said they looked dominating at times and like the first day of practice at others. Come on now, don't put words on my keyboard. I'm not getting soft. What I said in my thoughts above was completely valid. Also, I think you're dreaming if you think your team will even win pretty. They win ugly, that's pretty obvious thus far. That's the only way it's going to happen.

Chingasos! said:

Chingasos!!!

Only chingasos that were handed out on Friday were @ Bosco Tech! They were on the receiving end! And Cantwell was swinging away! 39-7

Aram, mi amigo! See what happens when you add a little SABOR to your life! "Chingasos" haven't heard that in a while! Last time I heard "CHINGASOS!!" Cantwell students were running through Salesian's parking lot after a a Mustang basketball game! And now the "leader of the Mustangs" is coaching there(Cantwell), Man have times changes! Thanks for memory lane!! Buena suerte!

JustAnotherFan said:

Rowland/Glendora was a hell of a game. Both teams played there butts off and it could have gone either way...I wouldnt cut any of the players down though thats a little too much, the rowland linebackers were keyed on sick in that game...I dont know how many times i saw #4 being double teamed, did have a couple missed tackles though, but he's only human and it happens...Glendora was a damn good team but i wouldnt go getting all crazy just yet...remember it was a nonleague game and it meant almost nothing, you still have a great Damien and Chino Hills team ahead of you which will be tough, but good luck to you with that. All in all great game and good luck to both teams in the rest of the season.

joe said:

rmc,you obviously haven't met me

74 said:

gp shut up

Mike said:

Greetings,

I'm Mike the Clone you are not!

A.T. big fella you of all should know that I don't throw "Chingies" (Spanglish)

My Pipers will be embarassed next week if we don't get our crap together.

Up from the basement, Mike

Out!

Aram said:

No chingasos, boys. None at all. It was a great game, lets just leave it at that. As good as both teams look, they have very difficult assignments ahead - Glendora with Damien and the Chino Valley and Rowland with WestCo and South Hills.

RMC said:

Will someone tell Joe that Mike the Clone is not a "Little Man" At 6'3 300. Mike is nobody I'd be wanting to call out.

Go Tarts! Work hard and keep your heads up!

Glendora Please! said:

What's with you guys! You barely beat Rowland High School and bragged ALL week that you would hand them their lunch, expose them, finish them, ect. , ect.
You blasted them in other , less positive ways, and still for the most part if Rowland fans responded it was to "see you at the game" or "school/player " pride. What gives! YOU BARELY BEAT THEM! YES THEM the ones at the end of your stick up noses. ROWLAND !
And now you're talking about a Damien beat down? You're right I don't understand and hope I never will. Great game by both teams. END OF STORY!

Joe Amat said:

Don't forget that Amat is still missing a BUNCH of starters....Oh...they chose to go to school elsewhere, but they woulda been our starters if... it was the 8'0's or 90's. Let's face facts and realize that the landscape had changed. Realistically the Carson game was 21-3 in the 3rd quarter... how many of you felt that "Amat is back" at that point. We can't continue to say "without those (insert weekly mistakes here) it would be a whole different game, when we continue to make those same mistakes.
Geez... we are starting to sound like Raider fans.

ME, only said:

ME, only.

My comments about Amat were not directed to reflect on Dominque Austin (Ex. #79 getting overpowered on power runs) in particular.

In fact I believe he is a legit offensive tackle at the Div I level for the following reasons. (And I know his dad so here's the skinny)
"On offense- Quick, exceptional feet, solid balance. Shield blocks are superior. Power blocking (drive) technique is a strenght. He's big 6'5" and still growing. Easily could gain 35 pounds of muscle and he's next years "gotta have him" recruit! If D.A. hits the weight room and does his 'Homework" before his senior year the sky's the limit. Needs to fire off on pass blocking more and "up" the aggression on offense but he's for real.

My point in regards to #79 was more to his "speed" technique on defense regardless of where he lines up on the D-line Ng or Tackle or DE. That's the point I was making not that he was doubled all night. Ever seen a NG in a 3 man front that wasn't? Carson was huge ,Yes!, but short, read the program, 6' 303 and 6' 1" 275 but they stuck to their blocks and never let up. My point is that Amat overuses D.A. really. Not that he doesn't work hard, from what coaches told me he's a worker and a legit Div I "full ride" guy. Probably on Offense. He plays defense more because of his size rather than his effectiveness. He trys hard no doubt but ..look at it this way. Carson had a D-Line and an O-Line. That's two fresh people beating on him all night! Something's gotta give and it's not his offense. You do the math. I saw the game and really keyed on him like i said I would.

Like I said before Amat takes their Football to another level. I coached a kid on this team in the 8th grade and I thought there was no way he would make it at Amat. He was always game but just not very coordinated, even for an 8th grader. But I saw him flying around on the field, busting heads and he was solid, aggressive and Amat studly. Must be the colors or just playing against a high level that made this kid into a solid baller!

Amat will be just fine,WITH THIS COACHING STAFF! Do your homework and read their bios, ALL the assistant coaches have impeccable credentials, Players of the Year, CIF Champions, UCLA Recruited Full Rides", Coached Defensive Players of the Year, set records for offense or defense at their prior HS posts. They're solid, solid, solid! Amat made the right choices and so did Verti! With time they will right this ship and the Bandwagon will be Standing Room Only (SRO)! Believe that!

For anyone concerned about these "young guns coaches" and their YOUTH be thankful you're getting them on the cheap, hopefully they'll build something that makes you open your wallets and hearts to them. VERY IMPRESSED BY WHAT I SAW.

J SUTTON said:

Holy smokes!!!!! Rosemead 28 Orange 27, Wasn't Orange in the CIF finals just a year ago and returned their all-CIF RB, All-league FB and 4 starting OL from last years team? Well well well its about time the Panther train started rolling, and couldn't have come at a better time, with league play on the horizon. I was at the game and it looked like Rosemead of the past few years, solid D, efficient O, and great special teams, 3-0 in turnovers and flat-out outplayed the Panthers of Orange.

MVL Predicitons
1. Rosemead
2. Arroyo
3-6. Does It Really Matter?

GP said:

DHS, this is why you Damien fools are 3-2 instead of 5-0. You talk waaaay too much and get in over your heads. Why don't you guys just try shutting your mouths and playing instead of yapping all the time?

joe said:

mike the clone you need help big time help you really think you know what your talking about but you can pretend to know little man, good luck glendora the rest of the season im done with you time to start thinking about league good night now,rack that guy,im out lol kid

randy said:

well well well.....i've got to say it, and i dont mind saying it.....HUGE PROPS to Rowland for bringing it down to the wire against the tartans, sounds like i missed a helluva game-----but actually... i think Glendora is slightly overated too anyhow! they'll be getting their smack down here soon enough (can you say Damien?)......i was at the Amat game, been to 3 of 'em some far, the play calls on both sides are disturbing at best, that is the consensus from the stands......the Amat coaches seem to change gear/direction in mid series of every drive......take what the D gives you, keep running when your getting a nice push, and throw the damn ball over the MIDDLE on quick slants or with play action, instead of these out patterns and fades that DID NOT work last night, take what they are giving you! It seems like whoever s making the calls is trying to get to cute,.....now, let me see here, the run sets up the pass right? cause that goes back to pop warner right?..... sure with gaise out that throws a kink, but they only got 68 yards rushing on 25 carries... is that Carrillo's fault?...nah, dont even try to pin this on him, the problems are much deeper than that, the kid was trying to create when he got sacked in the red zone in the 3rd qtr----you can see the heart!.....someone hit it right on the head earlier about bringing pressure more often on D, cuz we know by now if Amat sits back and waits for the opposing Off to come at them, they're in big trouble....i'm sure they all learned and will gain from this loss---those Carson kids woulda NUKED any of these "other" SGV yeams, 21-13 to the colts is nothing to be ashamed of, league is approaching, if they go 2-1 then they are in the PAC-5 playoffs (Crespi and Loyola)....it can be done....then who knows.....they just gotta get some momentum rolling next week and keep it rolling.....this season is far from over........

kab said:

Aram,
When you post your top passers, recievers and rushers can you add some defense and put tackles also. Thanks

john said:

Hey Vanner,

It just goes to show you how little you know about football at the higher levels. No one was comparing them to any velley team since it has been a hole lot of games since one has beaten them. I was just pointing out for the rankings that no one in the valley can beat a team that Amat beat and that was without Gaise. It is hard to compare the valley teams with Amat when they are unwilling to play the mighty Lancers. If the coaches thought that they were equal to Amat, don't you think that they would set up the game. As for the comment about Amat not being Revered in the SGV or the so cal area again. Answer me this, why do all the true power house teams want to schedule them up?? Answer, true powerhouses only schedule the best to get ready for CIF and to allow their boys the exposure of playing against some of the best.

Bluorca,

Los Altos is not the biggest team but they play with heart. Last night the lines were man handled. They looked up for the game but Western was almost as big as St. Francis. And not to mention Gano blowing it instead of going for the tie with 3+ minutes to play and kicking it deep, they had Western reeling after a huge collision that took out two of their big guys and the #1 corner. With the back up corner I was astonished why Gano was not picking on him. LA receivers are amazing, probably the best at making catches as I have seen in years, they are not afraid to take the hit.

To all Lancers out there,

Now you are experiencing true Lancer football, playing the top City section teams and competing, next year you take them out. The tradition of kicking St. Francis in the mouth needs to continue, and this goes back 25+ years. As for the coaching staff, you appear to be maturing, keep the growth in the right direction and make Amat proud. If the payers are not buying into the Amat tradition get rid of them. I heard this is already happening. Lancers need to be leaders not selfish players, playing for the one goal. Lancer football pride.

GO LANCER BLUE AND GOLD

Mike said:

KAB,

You know I think if "Crookie" had not lost his junior year sitting I think his slow start this year would have disolved a lot sooner.But Pasqie went with the "duck thrower" last year.Having "Crookie" basically lose his junior year of reps shows a little but I think he will be ok.

Remember Garrett was the #3 QB behind his brother Jacob and the #2 Johnny Garcia when Garrett was a sophomore.

Let's just hope Pasqie doesn't lose his mind again and sit the "Kluz" next year and have him lose a year at QB like Garret did or we are going to be back in the same situation as we are this year with a talented kid in "Crookie" but with no junior year of reps.It's call continuity I think and we had our chance to have it but we lost it?

Mike the Clone

DHS said:

Glendora better enjoy the the publicity and enjoyment because the only thing they are see on saturday morninmgs paper is Glendora Embarrassed or Glendora Blown Out. we are gonna kill them Friday at they are not comin into Our House and beating us. Mark and Travis are gonna exposed that secondary and Hile and Stokes and Gomez are stop Edmond and Butler and Grook wont have any time. So watch out for a betdown friday night Damien will kill the Tartans!!!!!!!!!

Mike said:

Hey Joe…. Nice smack, yeah I’ll take the “ass� comment. I’ve been called worst. You guys beat our butts overall. Yeah you may have strapped them on all right! But your rants tell me at the peewee level. Have fun coaching your junior all American team at the local park today.You see big boy I'm a realist, I know what I have on the field and I deal with it,you on the other hand are a wishfull thinker and you wish you had what we have at GHS.

You see Joe at “Bagpiper U� our standards are set high. Again of which you will never understand. At Glendora we are use too winning.

Remember we have played some of the Trib’s top ranked pre season teams so far and beat them. Covina and Charter Oak ring a bell? And our lost to Capo was a well-deserved loss, we didn’t show up. And last night Gezz…Yeah great game whatever!

Hey Joey, my friend that’s real impressive when play teams like the West Covina Pee Wee Junior Pop Warner all-stars, and wasn’t that #2 team you played that up and coming program at the all girls Ramona Convent, Oh and I forgot that power House you guys walloped and that name of that school escapes me but wasn’t it some continuation school on Colima Road? Oh and bye the way…oh never mind you would never understand. But enough about Rowland congratulations on making us look sick. I’ll take my licks from you “Joe� and take it like a man. At least that first “L� on your forehead you will be wearing all week can be worn with dignity because you finally played someone even though half of us showed up to play.

The road for us “bagpipers� will be tough from here on out. If we struggle against the Capo’s and the Rowland’s of the world we are in a world of hurt. Prediction Damien will bust our chops!!!

The offense well, What’s the game plan and do we have one! The fumbles, false starts, stumbling over each other, weird time outs, and hey when you are swapping your QB every other series what do you expect. There was no rhyme or reason to that offense. Pasqie what the hell were you doing? Stick with “Kluzie� or “Crookie� and give one or the other half a chance to get into a zone. MY GOD! Offensive line you guys after watching the game again this morning handed Rowland’s frontline a whooping! You guys I know it’s hard to get into any kind of timing when your changing quarterbacks every series. But still you corn fed biscuit eating hogs up front still dealt out a good old fashion whooping! You guys get my props!!!

Jordan, get to the end zone kid you had a touchdown in the fourth quarter on that east end on the five yard line but you “juked� and got denied. Get your butt to the end zone kid you deserve it! “Zackie B.� kid you have heart that’s all I can say.

Defense you guys need to get back to basic fundamentals like you guys did in games one, two and three. I watched the game again this morning and on one play I counted six missed tackles. Come on guys quit trying to be cute and start wrapping your arms around people instead of trying to just run through them. You guys are better than what you are showing the last two weeks.

Kicking game well let’s just say, Damien will kill us if we continue to give them the ball on the thirty every time.

Gezz I sound like a whinnie little homer but, Bagpipers you guys are better than this. What happen to my guys from the first three weeks? I miss those guys! Please phone home.

Lucky yeah we were lucky, very lucky to walk a way with a “W�. I have made this comparison before; Rowland is just a good Duarte ball club the team we beat 41 to 16. We are better than what we showed the last two weeks. A lot better! And if we are not I’ll find out next week. Can we beat a Damien? Humm, I haven’t seen Damien but from what I have read, and the way we are playing right now, they will hand us our lunch and dinner.

Aram in all fairness to you, you have been more than fair to us “bagpipers� And I know your not any teams honk……well maybe……never mind. (That was a joke big fella) But seriously you have been more than fair. The game you saw last night was just our second bad game in a row. We sure didn’t bring our “A� team the last two weeks We just make good teams look great.

Back to the basement to recharge!

Good Night Now!

Glendora Fan said:

CANTWELL (6-0)- players, coaches, and fans...way to go "big red!" Proud to say I'm a graduate. Back then Dick Larsen (same Larsen that went on to coach for years at Damien) was our varsity FB coach and like a heart of a lion every friday night we all came ready to play. There is alot to be said about the small HS experience....and I won't have traded all the tea in China to have attended a different SGV school. Every friday our fans packed the stands as several of our past grads always showed up to support our efforts. I know that many years have gone bye since I've worn my cardinal-red lettermens jacket...but throughout my thoughts and wishes for your successes and my old alma mater has always been loyal.

Good luck Cantwell..go Cards!

kab said:

I KNOW ITS GONNA BE A TOUGH WEEK FOR THE TOP 10 RANKINGS BUT KEEP DAMIEN OVER GLENDORA CAUSE IT WILL MOTIVATE GHS COACHES AND PLAYERS,ALSO GLENDORA IS ONE QB AWAY FROM WINNING 4 OUT OF 4 OF THE BIG SEVEN.

bluorca said:

AMAT/CARSON

We have to give our Lancers some major props for keeping the Carson game as close as it was. Every loss is a painful one for us but I believe most people thought that Amat was going to lose by more than one TD. This is the number one team in the City Section!!! I know Amat has depth at the RB position in comparison to other SGV teams but I've always said that Gaisie is the key to Amat's offense. The loss of Gaisie has been downplayed by many but I think this game more than any game has proven that we miss D. Gaisie. It is encouraging to see that our young and injured Lancer team was able to almost make a comeback againts this Carson team poised to win the City Section Championship. Amat is getting better and better week after week...how typical. By the end of this season and especially the next, more and more of these young Lancers will be discovered not only by the media but the scouts too. Isnt this how it always goes at Amat?

LOS ALTOS/WESTERN

How often to we see high school teams get up for one game (St.Francis) and then lose their fire the next week? Now I dont know if this was the case but Los Altos should have beat this Western Team. I stated before that Los Altos would run over everyone in rout to a Div. Championship but I may have jumped the gun on this one. When the playoffs come around, Los Altos will run into teams like Mayfair who beat this Western team 35-21 (actually 35-14 w/starters in). Another team Los Altos will have to deal with is Tustin who also defeated this Western team 35-14. Lets face it, Los Altos will win their league but as of right now, I dont see how this Conqueror team is going to beat either Mayfair or Tustin who both pounded Western High. Hopefully, they will get better as the season grows.

West Covina/Ayala

It's always exciting to see what team WC is going to field week after week. So who was missing because of injury or discipline problems this week? Once again, WC should have routed this 0-5 Ayala team....they did not. And I only say this because I
believe that WC has the talent to do well in their league and the playoffs as well. As the way things are, WC scored the same amount (and gave up 1 more TD) of points as Diamond Ranch did againts this same Ayala team. Is this were WC wants to be?...on par with Diamond Ranch? WC might also have to meet Mayfair and Tustin in the playoffs as well...The Bulldogs have a lot of work to do.

Glendora/Rowland

I hope now that Rowland fans have a better understanding of the importance of strength of schedule when it comes to high school football. Yes, Rowland played good and they almost beat Glendora but I know that there were many a Rowland fan that jumped the gun on their 4-0 team with talk about winning their league and playoffs, etc. Well, what good did it do being 4-0,playing nobody, and routing these nobody teams? What good did it do to talk about how many points Rowland was averaging or how high in the division Don Lugo was ranked? LOL! Now you are 4-1. And you lost to a mediocre at best Glendora team. Rowland fans need to start praying that the "real" West Covina wont show up at their league game. Rowland would have to deal with Mayfair/Tustin as well in the playoffs. The way things are right now, I doubt any SGV team could compete with either of these schools. Regardless, congrats on your 4-0 start Raiders...

FEAR THE AMAT LANCERS O' GOLDEN KNIGHTS OF ST. FRANCIS!!!

sgv fan said:

i think rowland deserves a hell of alot of respect now..

42 said:

Football Fan:
Simply, "NO".Look at the talent that Glendora has played and beaten so far his year!They are without a doubt, the better football team.Rowland played a tough game but you know Glendora is the better team.Edmond is easily a top 5 player in the SGV and the Glendora defense is one of the top defenses around.Vega lays down the hammer whether he is running or blocking...Trust me, he's done both to me in practices this year..As for the game,Glendora made some mistakes but they are still the better team and came out with a win.Hats off to Rowland, they proved to be a solid team.They are still a bit "overhyped" considering Duarte could have beaten the 4 opponents that Rowland defeated in their pre-league schedule.

ALSO, wasn't this supposed to be Game of the Week?Is it gonna be on the local channels and is there gonna be a game video on SGV Tribune?

VANNER said:

Hey John,
Do you realize how it looks that Bishop Amat football is being compared to local southwest Div. teams ( West Covina & South Hills) to call itself the best in the Valley ? South Hills Lost Last night and are now 2-4. I remember a long time ago that B. A. football was in another universe ! So thanks for the compliment. It should come as no surprise to you that Bishop Amat football is no longer revered in this valley ( or So. Ca.)as it used to be. I really wish B.A. football wasn't just slightly better than the lower div. locals its surrounded by, In my opinion there are too many great programs around now for B.A. to ever reach the level they once enjoyed...But you know what? Prove me wrong! Until then get used to the heartache and go watch those weaker teams having fun in C.I.F.!

dawg cast said:

Huskies 5 points away from 5-1 record vs decent schedule. lost by 1 vs Los Altos and Rancho Cucamonga, lost by 3 vs a good trabuco hills team. San Antonio League play will be interesting

football fan said:

Glendora or maybe just Glendora Faithful...you were lucky last night. You are not the better team maybe equal but not better. Cheer your team on but don't cap on the players. I think Rowland does have the better line backer in the area...when the other teams coaches are telling their players to key in on him they must think so too.It was a great game and could have so easily gone either way don't get to caught up in the win.

joe said:

glendora faithful, what the hell you talking about i blame the coaches for the defense we were in ,it was all wrong just like your rb said there was no mike lb the kids didnt set that defense up and dont talk smack about are lb that kid has been busting his ass going both ways all season,every game were in his double teamed and missed tackles both sides had miss tackles how about when small are rb rolled up about 3 or4 of your players or i should say rolled over.The bottom line is dont talk smack about are kids i or no one has said one bad thing about yours and by the way i did strap it on before punk.

BA 24/7 said:

Amat team loss...do not blame the coaches we were always in this game..Carrillos 2 picks did not help us.......with Gaise we win this game......

ME said:

To: Keep my promise

I thought #79 Austin did a decent job on offense & Defense. It's very easy to get overpowered when you have two or more players blocking you on every play. Also, he must have done something right because his name was call out on the speakers all game. That kid works hard all the time. In fact, the whole D-line didn't do a great job against a extremely huge Carson Line. If you want blame, point to the coaches. It's called adjustments !!!!

Aram said:

Thank you Kab,

The voice of reason. What I don't like is this suggestion that I am somehow rooting against Glendora just because I pick against them and hence they get disrespected. Nothing could be further from the truth ... I DON'T CARE who wins. I am happy for whoever does win and sad for who doesn't, especially when it's two locals. And obviously, it hasn't cost Glendora any bit of coverage - they're on the coverage of the entire paper today and they had the video highlights in the win over Charter Oak.

kab said:

GLendora fans need to give Aram a break, he picked the team that was supposed to win in every game so far, We had a very inexperienced team coming into the season and no one was expecting us to do this well so far....He thought that Rowland was the better team and if a few things went the other way they could have come up with the victory...so just stop the smak talk its getting ridiculous...THis is Aram's job so let him do his job and lets do ours it hasnt hurt us yet

GT FAN said:

Tartans have alot to be thankful for because last nights game could have gone either way. This might have looked like a repeat of the Capo game but with one difference ....WE WON! GT now has bigger trees to chop...leauge starts next week against Damien...don't be late cuz its sure to be another barn burner. Go Tartans!

john said:

Look at that, Rancho beats another powerhouse from the SGV. Look at AMAT now best team in the valley even at 2-3. Go Lancers

Went to Los Altos last night. LA has a very good complement of players and very good receivers. Where did Western come from, they can hit, are big and have some studs running the ball, Great game.

Gano blew this one by going for 2 instead of the tie. Can't get away with stuff like this against the bigger and stronger divisions. Just like he did against Damien which darn near cost him the game. LA scored and there was plenty of time on the clock to get the ball back, LA coaches need to think a little more. I hope the three players from Western are OK, the hit sounded like an auto accident.

Good luck in league LA.

Hey Aram? said:

Know it's early but what's your take on Damien vs. Glendora! Is that going to be Game of the WEEK!

Jimbo Segruder said:

Jim Garrison-

What can I say other than I told you so. (sorry) Like I said first Salesian put it on you 33-0 and now Cantwell puts it on your Tigers 39-7! Ouch! 72-7 wow!

By the way Coach Sergio V's Cantwell D-Line looked awesome! He used to coach at Bosco before his son tranfered to St Paul,(University of Nevada, Reno)Let's see that's 6-0 while giving up 5 pts a game! Cantwell (gulp) might run the table, I know Surge! ONE GAME AT A TIME !!!

See what having four assistant coaches with Head Coaching experience accomplishes!

By the way see that your Rowland team really came to play! Maybe you'll hear some respectful messages coming out of...oh never mind hope you enjoyed the game! Way to step up RHS!

Dan said:

Mistakes & penalties killed West Covina, this game should have been a lot easier for West Co
but they kept killing their momentum with so many penalties & turnovers & mental errors. Refs took two TDs in a row from them due to their penalties. With a 34 to 17 score & about 2 & a half minutes left in the game they allowed Ayala back into the game with a blown coverage 70 yrd td pass. Then Ayala recovered an onside kick
& got within field goal range to kick a field goal & made it 34 to 27 West Co. They tried another onside kick but West co recovered it & ran out the clock.
I said somewhere else on this blog that until West Co.proves me wrong that I thought they could be one of the best teams in the valley, well their starting to prove me wrong, they better get focused & cut the mistakes or they will get rolled in the San Antonio, the only consolation is that they were still without Demond Wallace at the rb/wr spot & lineman
Anthony Ramos [Demond did get in for an offensive series in the last couple of minutes but had no touches]. They still are having trouble with the new offense as they are getting motion & offsides penalties left & right. They really need to work on their game focus & discipline, its still early & they have some great talent so here's hopeing for that breakout
game next week. Lets get it going Bulldogs!

GLENDORA FAITHFUL said:

glendora vs. rowland was one hell of a game. both teams played there butts off. ill give everyone on this post that. but man do i love seeing "joe" eat his words. i bet you could guess what his built in excuse would have been if they lost. oh, look at that, blame the coaches instead of realizing that it was a great game. sounds like a comment from someone who never strapped it on. neither team can say we should have done this or that, both teams made costly mistakes, and both teams capatilized on them. all in all, great game. i did notice that rowland had 3 or 4 linemen going both ways. it looked like it took its toll. looked like it took its toll on the so called best linebackers in the valley. i saw alot of missed tackles from them tonight. no need for numbers or names, you know who they are. plus, they are just kids, shame on any parents calling out 16 and 17 year old kids. wish both teams the best. glendora will need it now entering the sierra league. rowland, you remember that league dont you?

Keep my promise! said:

First the obvious-
Bishop Amat takes their football very serious. Bought their program and it's 135 pages! And probably weighs a pound! Color photos, school records the works! First class all the way!

Carson has one hell of a Jr. QB #7 6'4" 238! RB #4 Jack Sula Jr.6' 185 ran all day between the tackles! Sula hits the hole like he's breaking down walls, he gained alot of yardage after first contact. Not sloppy hitting just desire vs. technique! (Why do HS coaches run that 50 Defense with a three man line?) Sula also plays stud LB. O-line for Carson was stout! Punished D-line consistently. Carson coaches almost gave the game away and from what parents around said they miss Coach Aguirre. Head Coach needs to settle down and not be so hyper. Players respond better to coaches that look confident rather than scatter brained! Carson' defense flys to the ball but at times lacked discipline, maybe that's why the coaches yell so much. But overall Carson was tough team, with heavy hitters, very determined and solid.

Amat, what can I say. I'll give it to you straight and see where the chips fall.

Bishop Amat's problem reminds me of the book titled "A Tale of Two Cities" because they have Div I talent at various positions and average talent at others. The thing that's REMARKABLE is when they get rolling they ALL play at a high level. They are well conditioned, gang tackle and fly to pursuit. They wear their colors with pride and it shows.

Again the coaching staff- same story. They can't decide if they want to follow their game plan and have a balanced attack or just run what's working in the game and on the field. If Amat had made the commitment to run the ball between the tackles they win. When the running game started to jell it was game over! Instead they got cute with finess plays and Carson made defensive stops. It's really very simple- If the personnel of the other team can not stop what you're doing , DON'T STOP DOING IT !!!!!!!
Qb for Amat was serviceable. Throws the out well, come back routes were nice, killer on slants and on the deep ball he connects. RB is TOUGH,hits the hole and moves his feet when hit! O-Line loves to run the ball! When their featured back comes back look out!

If I saw one glaring problem with Amat's coaching staff it was this- respond to what's happening on the field! When they can't stop you apply pressure, ( ex: Carson never adjusted to your biltz package why stop blitzing? )when you're getting beat adapt( ex. #79 on Defense was getting beat badly on power runs at him, he's using speed rushing tecnhnique regardless of where he lines up on the d-line NG or Tackle? Why?), regroup and address the problem! Most of the time you just have to tweak a problem to fix it, not RIDE IT OUT!

That's my take. I saw the whole game. Too bad Amat doesn't play Damien this year that would have been fun! Go Lancers! Big props to Eric Valdivia #45! Can't believe that's the same Eric from St. Louis Of France, way to step up!

Kept my promise! said:

First the obvious-
Bishop Amat takes their football very serious. Bought their program and it's 135 pages! And probably weighs a pound! Color photos, school records the works! First class all the way!

Carson has one hell of a Jr. QB #7 6'4" 238! RB Jr.#4 Jack Sula 6' 185 ran all day between the tackles! Sula hits the hole like he's breaking down walls, he gained alot of yardage after first contact. Not sloppy hitting just desire vs. technique! (Why do HS coaches run that 50 Defense with a three man line?) Sula also plays stud LB. O-line for Carson was stout! Punished D-line consistently. Carson coaches almost gave the game away and from what parents around said they miss Coach Aguirre. Head Coach needs to settle down and not be so hyper. Players respond better to coaches that look confident rather than scatter brained! Carson' defense flys to the ball but at times lacked discipline, maybe that's why the coaches yell so much. But overall Carson was tough team, with heavy hitters, very determined and solid.

Amat, what can I say. I'll give it to you straight and see where the chips fall.

Bishop Amat's problem reminds me of the book titled "A Tale of Two Cities" because they have Div I talent at various positions and average talent at others. The thing that's REMARKABLE is when they get rolling they ALL play at a high level. They are well conditioned, gang tackle and fly to pursuit. They wear their colors with pride and it shows.

Again the coaching staff- same story. They can't decide if they want to follow their game plan and have a balanced attack or just run what's working in the game and on the field. If Amat had made the commitment to run the ball between the tackles they win. When the running game started to jell it was game over! Instead they got cute with finess plays and Carson made defensive stops. It's really very simple- If the personnel of the other team can not stop what you're doing , DON'T STOP DOING IT !!!!!!!
Qb for Amat was serviceable. Throws the out well, come back routes were nice, killer on slants and on the deep ball he connects. RB is TOUGH,hits the hole and moves his feet when hit! O-Line loves to run the ball! When their featured back comes back look out!

If I saw one glaring problem with Amat's coaching staff it was this- respond to what's happening on the field! When they can't stop you apply pressure, ( ex: Carson never adjusted to your biltz package why stop blitzing? )when you're getting beat adapt( ex. #79 on Defense was getting beat badly on power runs at him, he's using speed rushing tecnhnique regardless of where he lines up on the d-line NG or Tackle? Why?), regroup and address the problem! Most of the time you just have to tweak a problem to fix it, not RIDE IT OUT!

That's my take. I saw the whole game. Too bad Amat doesn't play Damien this year that would have been fun! Go Lancers! Big props to Eric Valdivia #45! Can't believe that's the same Eric from St. Louis Of France, way to step up!

RaiderMom said:

Oh by the way, that loud dude has been going to the game for four years now..I have no idea who he is, but he gets on my nerves sometimes yelling at the boys like he does.

RaiderMom said:

Rowland Vs Glendora... one point.. I think our boys showed the nay sayers. Great game, good luck to Glendora on the rest of their season. All I ever care about is if my son can hold his head high when he walks off the field, and he did that tonight.. GO Raiders...

MEADFAN said:

UH OH-Rosemead in a STUNNER?!

Maybe Koffler and White can get these kids going.

Lets see what the Panthers do in League!

AHS said:

West Covina took Ayala 34 -27. Aint no cryin in FB, period. Ayala could have easily won, but didn't. Both teams made too many mistakes for this late in the season. Anyone know where Ayala can buy a defense, or at least a deep cover DB?

Aram said:

Go Tartans,

I will do whatEVER I want.

GP said:

Wow Joe's actually being a good winner haha JK. Rowland suprised me really, they havea great running game. They remind me a ton of the atlanta falcons rushing game. Great game and good luck the rest of the way to everybody!

go tartans said:

mike the clone you just got owned

aram don't EVER doubt my team again

FreighTrain said:

Hey, Joe, or anyone else, the announcer said there was going to be highlight coverage from the Glendora/Rowland game on some website, but the band was playing, and I didn't catch the name of the website... anyone know it?

All I have to say is that was a fantastic game, and both teams represented themselves well. A nice clean game too, only one personal foul all game. (unless I missed one.) My throat hurts from yelling.

joe said:

rowland vs glendora what can you say hell of a game,both teams played there butts off when it comes down to it rowland was out coached but thats the way it goes ,aram i saw you down there on the field i wanted to come down there and tackle you lol jk or maybe light you up jk good game dude all i can say is i told you rowland had a good team and you were right those backs from glendora are pretty dam good or we were in the wrong kind of defense but oh well good luck to glendora in league you guys are a class act and mike the clone you are a class ass.

Mike said:

Greetings,

I'm Mike the clone and you are not!

Ahhhh I'm kind of embarrassed! Capo Valley and now Rowland.....Neither game should have been close.

My "bagpipers" just aren't a good team right now.I'll have some more after the further review. Bet ya can't wait.

I'm Out!

Prep Fan said:

Bonita over San Dimas. Great rivalry, game, and turnout. Way to go Bearcats. Smudgepot remains in La Verne.

VANNER said:

Rancho Cuc. 21
South Hills 20
South Hills goes for two and receiver cant bring it down in the end zone. Cant wait to see the stats the Huskies seemed to man handle them. Congratulations to Rowland according to the score you showed yourself well! Bring on league!

football fan said:

hey hey who said San Dimas was gonna win, cry me a river, GO BONITA! 35-14 SMUDGE POT IS OURS AGAIN!

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