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The side judge made the same gesture after Dorian Wells came his way.

Wow Amat fans, you just got your best win of the season.

Bishop Amat 29, St. Francis (OT)
Rosemead 28, El Monte 27
Charter Oak 10, West Covina 7
Damien 33, Glendora 13
Diamond Ranch 17, Los Altos 14 (wow!)
San Dimas 21, Baldwin Park 19
Rowland 43, Nogales 0
Diamond Bar 6, Ayalo 0
Covina 48, Pomona 0
Arroyo 48, Mountain View 0
Sierra Vista 26, La Puente 14
Duarte 47, Workman 8
Northview 55, Ganesha 14
South Hills 34, Walnut 7
Gladstone 21, Bassett 13
South El Monte 21, Gabrielino 14

Aram thoughts on Amat/St. Francis: I think because St. Francis doesn't carry the same name as Hart or Valencia or Loyola, Amat fans don't realize just how GOOD of a WIN last night was. Forget about St. Francis being the Pasadena Star-News' top-ranked team and consider that they're the No. 1-ranked team in the Western Division. They were undefeated and are probably going to go on and have a great season. Amat fans should not just sit there and say "That's great, we just beat one of the Valley's top teams." You guys did do that, but you also beat one of the Southland's better teams and when was the last time (outside of league) you were able to say that? The St. Paul and Rancho wins are nice, but this one is on another level and it came without Amat being heatlhy.
About the final play - Dorian Wells scored. I was standing right there and the ball hit the pylon (barely) and was momentarily across the goal line. I am telling you, I was standing RIGHT THERE. When it happened, my brain in a split second thought "Did the ref just see what I saw?" and when he signaled TD, it was obvious he had. It doesn't matter that Wells basically ended up out of bounds and on the wrong side of the goal line. If you've watched any kind of football on TV, you know that only one sliver of the ball has to cross the line or touch the pylon and it's a score. It was a very very very close play, but he did score.

WARNING: If you're a Los Altos or West Covina fan, it's time to get worried.


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randy said:

damien dad....sounds good buddy....i'll be on the north 40, at the top of the stairs....see you out there!....we have the same prob with jerseys....i remember those old salesian helmets, all the nephews used to try and grab one first when we played on the street or in the yard.....the medinas lived over by santa marta hosp off of 1st street and eastern, actually on humphreys by the chinese cemetary, the grandmother still lives there, but senor medina passed away about 8 yrs ago....take care/good luck and i'll c u later bro!...randy

Damien Dad said:

Hey Randy,

Forgot we're at DB tomorrow , his # will be 58 (white) 41 (green) Go figure with all the $$$ bag parents at Damien and the kids #'s don't match? lol. Well last year (freshmen) our white practice jerseys were our game jerseys. Well I still love the school and so do my kids, so that's all that matters.

Randy-
Check out Salesian on Maxprep.com and see the uniforms Salesian wears. New jerseys and helmets, Powder blue top of the line Schutt helmets...nice! Hell when I played I wore a suspension helmet that felt like I was hitting concrete when I went helmet to helmet, ouch!

I'll be wearing my Salesian (black) cap and I'll drop on by and say hi. Hope everyone plays hard and both teams compete.

randy said:

hey damien dad, glad you wrote back. i dont think eddie will be there, my uncle richard lives close by in covina, maybe he will be.....my kid is number 62, he play DT. He's 5'8, 172-ish..and kinda slow, but he has a heart of gold! he played OG last yr an did fine, but got switched from O line to D this yr and is struggling to learn his new position but having much more fun, i remember that Damien-Db frosh game last yr too....come by the DB side and look for the loud (but not rude) DB dad yelling his head off.....take care bro!.......we lost all those big freshmen from last yr, they are playing varsity because we got like 8 seniors total on the varsity this yr.....yikes.....see you tomorrow!---randy

Damien Dad said:

Salesian in the House!

Hope to see you at the Damien vs. DB JV game Thursday or the Varsity game on Friday @Damien. Saw the game last year and was impressed with the size of the freshmen team. You're right it was close for a while. He's #41 and plays MLB, looks like he'll get some time in this week. He's 5'8" 195 lbs of muscle and can run so we'll see. As long as he's having fun with his friends and plays hard I'm happy. Varsity will be where I think he'll shine. What # is your boy?

Take a look at Justin Luiten #72 on the Varsity. He played 3/5 plays as a Jr. and now he's tearing things up as a senior and is a definate DivI prospect! (He's 6' 4" 290 and can move!) Sometimes it comes when it comes. Same for Walsh # 82 6'6" 240 and is also a senior and first time starter that is tearing it up. So you never know.

Is your uncle Eddie Medina going to the game? Tell him the Coronas Boys say hi!

Good luck to all the kids and stay healthy!

randy said:

another salesian guy?...well alright!.....which one is your kid on damien? i believe our boys square off fri nite, my pit bull is only a sophomore, he plays JV......do you remember last yrs game? i believe it was 3-0 at half, we thought on the DB side that we had you!....damn!

Damien Dad said:

MATMTWTBAG-

Great to hear Austin's taking care of business. That would be cool to see his dad's smile with pride knowing his son is coming on! This man loves his kids! Very nice family.

Yeah I don't like the drama of homecoming for a big game. Look what it did to Glendora vs. Chino Hills. I hated the long wait and the girlfriend nonsense that goes on with these things. (Who won, who's crushed, blah blah blah)

When we played at Salesian in 73 and 74 football seasons, Crespi, St. Francis and Notre Dame all had their Homecoming games against us. lol. That was rough! St. Francis gave us hot water ONLY in the locker room. Crespi gave us cold water ONLY.

Good luck in league! I'm sick as a dog or else I'd go see the C.T. tonight.

MATMTWTBAG said:

Austin was a monster both ways. Defense wise he made some great behind the line of scrimmage tackles and threw them for losses. He is huge on the o-line and does his job. We lost one of our starters for the season so we have a sophmore there the rest of the way. The o-line to me is suspect right now...they are containing their blocks but they are not punishing guys.....Austin takes care of his end tho...I cannot imagine what he will be like next year....there will be lots of recruiters there to watch this kid play............Damien does have the team to beat Chino and Chino Hills this year...They will challenge in league and go deep in the playoffs....Amat hinges on this Crespi game hope you are right and we pull it off at home. It is our Homecomming game and either the team gets fired up for it or they worry about the next days dance and dates and come out flat. I never liked playing a big game on Homecomming..too many distractions in that week...Lack of focus....Hope not this time and we come out and take care of our business. Cal preps has us losing this game but then again cal preps had us losing to Chaminade. Go Figure?

Damien Dad said:

MATMTWBAG-

Yup a win is a win. How did Austin do? By the way? Crespi beat St. Francis 31-17. And hit St. Francis with a balanced attack. (Rushing 159 Passing 189) Seems like they have an awesome punter as well. Crespi will come to play but I like Amat's chances at Home.

Regarding Damien:

Well they're a funny team for a couple of reasons.
1) They make teams look bad! (Claremont, Charter Oak, Glendora) and struggle at times with bad teams like Ayala (1st half) and Claremont (4th Quarter)
2) They seem to play to the teams level (St. John Bosco) but leave teams busted up (Los Altos) as well.
3) When they're running the ball well it seems to affect the passing game some how. Like a teter tater. One side up(r) one side down(p).
4) If Damien puts together a solid running and passing game for four quarters they are unbeatable! If they put up a defensive effort like they've been doing and add wrinkles to keep people honest they'll do some serious damage to ANY team.

I think Damien's chances are very good in the playoffs if they beat Chino Hills and Chino this year. I think it goes a long way into solidifying the will of this team to play for a Championship, and not just a league Championship!

I've said it before "Every team decides when they've won enough." When they're satisfied with their season and it's time to call it a day. Sometimes it only takes a few players to make that decision and you get bounced other times it's a collectively silent agreement.

If Damien wins big against the rest of the league, the sky's the limit!

Good luck against Crespi, Notre Dame and Loyola!

Let's( Damien and Bishop Amat) run the table in league and p#@% everyone off!

MATMTWTBAG said:

DD,
St. Francis plays tonite at home vs. Crespi...good game for Amat observers...Big win for CO..Los Altos is sinking fast.......but Damien won and so did Amat so it should stay the same with you guys one and us two.............Chaminade was a good team that just threw the ball all nite.........our defense came to play last nite....the shocker to me was Walnuts win over Bonita...Again this was a non league game and Bonita may have been experimenting plus grades came out and that all plays into it.....but a win is a win....what a long drive going and coming back from Chaminade....well worth it tho..............very intrested on how Crespi does with St. Francis tonite....that Crespi game next week for us is our season....we cannot lose or we will start league 0-2 because we will not beat ND the following week..(at ND)..I am a realist here.................ND is going to run the table and go 3-0 in league.....what do you think is Damiens chances for playoffs this year?

Damien Dad said:

Really like Austin's coachability and frame. And yes the sky's the limit with him. You should see his sister play basketball. Amat girls basketball has another "gem" on the way. She played on my son's travel ball team and I've told Austin's dad on several occassions that she's going to be special.

Heard you guys handled you business with Charminade, big ups to Verti and staff. Hope Austin handled his business as well. Damien beat a game Ayala team but looked sloggish at times. Still a win is a win in league! Heard Los Altos is still reeling(that's 4 loses in a row) and CO is coming back. Did St. Francis win?

Co-#1's for a week! How about that? works for me!

Best wishes against Notre Dame!

MATMTWTBAG said:

Late 70's DB......It is intresting to see how a team does the next week after your team has played them....Seems like Los Altos has not recovered from their win against you guys......you guys took allot out of them.....Damien should have played D1 all along they have had the teams to be in that group....that RB at Boise says it all for your program....WC is a wreck after playing Mater Dei...of course WC will say they hung in there and maybe they did but llok at the effect it is having now......I'd like to see Austin go to Notre Dame or USC. I think this kid is going to get bigger and stronger next year for his senior year..Look out for Amats team next year we will be loaded.....our junior class is a talented bunch. Austin has the frame to play in the NFL some day..........hope he stays healty and away from a serious injury...

MATMTWTBAG well said said:

MATMTWTBAG- well said in deed.

If Damien and Amat win their next two games Amat should get the top nod because Ayala and Diamond Bar aren't Chaminade and Notre Dame. That's what I've said from the beginning.

Good to hear a Catholic School Baller that loves ALL our Fraternity Brothers and roots for them all to do well. Talk to Austin's Dad from time to time and yeah USC and Oregon might want him as well as Notre Dame.

What year did you play at Amat and what position? What's going to be interesting is to see what affect Bishop's win has on St. Francis and more interesting than that is what affect Damien's win will have on Glendora against Chino Hills.

Don't know a thing about "Chaminade" except they beat 7'4" Ralph Sampon's undefeated Virginia team and it made all the papers! (joke)

MATMTWTBAG said:

Damien Dad:
The rankings do really measure one team against the other because we do play different schedules. Take a San Dimas and give them Damien or Amats schedule and they would be 0-for.....Schedule does matter and you guys gave a good unbeaten SJB everything you had....That is one tough Trinty team that may take their league, as Orange Lutheran is finding out what it is like to play up with these boys from the old Serra League. With a Loss I see Amat dropping down to 4 or even 5 depending on the score. if we get mauled drop us we do not deserve to be up there but if it is a close one then I dont see us dropping that far down....But with a win for Amat and a Damien loss I think we go to number one. If both win their games you guys should remain there until someone knocks you off.....I always cheer for the private schools so good luck to you guys the rest of the way...On Austin dont be surprised if USC and Oregon get in that picture.......Bluorca nice catch!...I knew a Amat fan would figure that out....Beat Chaminade!

bluorca said:

Ha! I must be getting old because I just got MATMTWTBAG's name..."Mighty Are The Men That Wear Blue And Gold". It's a phrase thats inscribed on a wall inside the ol football locker room @ Amat.

Nice name bro....ON BLUE!!!!!

Mike It take you up on that! said:

Mike-

I'll take you up on that! See you at the 40 this Friday. Would love to see your team again vs. Chino Hills. Maybe I can hear what you see and pick your brain for football smarts. That would be very interesting. You never know you might be right!

Damien Dad said:

MATMTWTBAG-

Done with the rankings. They are a merit badge for a good season so far. That's all. Maybe you guys would have done better against SJB maybe not. Maybe we would have done better against Carson maybe not. That's alot of maybes don't you think?

But I have a question how far does Amat drop if you lose Friday? Or do they stay top three because of strenght of schedule? By some logic I've heard here you can not be less than top five because of strenght of schedule right?

It's old and I really want to enjoy Damien and Bonita's run while they last. I'll cheer for you guys as well seeing as four former players play for you. Enjoy your season and good luck to Coach Verti, I think he's got things going in the right direction. Best to Austin, UCLA awaits you! See you at the signing Next November!

MATMTWTBAG said:

Geeeze Damien DAD! Relax!.....You guys are having a good year and it is too bad we do not play each other this year. Both Amat and Damien are playing tough schedules and anybody can beat anybody on any given friday.....mistakes turnovers bad calls all play into it......they had you guys #1 and Amat #2..no big deal....but losing to Los Altos???? They los Altos are no Carson, Hart or Valencia.....Amat should be #1...but hey we give you guys your props good season so far ..

Mike said:

Yeah I thought you would know who Jim Healy was!

Did you have fun last Tuesday night?

Opps gotta go we have to line up now at the "med" window. And I want to act like a good clone so mommie and daddy can take me to the game Friday night.Finally I can go home on my weekend pass and sleep in my basement bed.I've been a bad boy that last two weeks. And I have upset you intellectuals.

Hey I have an idea can I come sit by you at the game. I like like high brow!

See you at the 40! I know your going HUH!

That might be fun!

Out!

bluorca said:

SD-Lancer

I've heard of that guy and I'm sure he'll make everyone proud.

I found a small article on Kory Minor (BA Class of 93). It's at http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stories/111805acj.html

It's an older article (last nov) but its a good quick read for Amat/Notre Dame fans (The South Bend one! lol) or the curious. Kory Minor made his mark at Notre Dame and is in his 3rd year with the Carolina Panthers.

Damien dad said:

I remember Damien lost by two each time. If that's getting shut down what was the word for what Valencia, Hart and Carson did to you! Amat who got their ass kicked three times and still wants the number 1 ranking. Okay bleedblungold you're no. 1! Happy! Worthless as that is and rank Damien # 10. Happy! Worthless as that is.

Give it a rest.


bleedblungold said:

Here we go again a little chirp from bearcat or after the schedule should be called kittykat. 411 5 TDs this brings to mind a familiar story way back in last year bonita 7-0 thanks to favorable schedule and lights out in league.
If im correct thats the same year no playoffs for the felines.
Strength of schedule is speaking foreign language to bearcats, they will just stare and look at you blinking every so often, mouth open.
Last time I checked hey even wilson players say defense weak, but if you dont believe me ask Schurr high.
Whats next bearcats debating why they should be #1, crazy but it will happen but better hurry diamond ranch and the rest are comming, sending mr chavez to the same place as mr gold, under 100 yds, but what the hell diamond ranch only had the toughest preseason in the country, while bonita had arguable one of the weakest. Dont agree with this ask yourself why Rutgers is not ahead of Auburn, thank you.

As for the south hils debate lets not be too quick to critique, first of all south hills is a great program and I bet if they were put in the pac 5 many kids would transfer in just for the same reasons they used to transfer into Amat, mainly exposure, but the way things are going now dont need the extra dose, all teams listed could probably beat each other on any given night. For those who really follow high school football last year south hills barely lost to esperanza, and esperanza played a see saw game against Loyola, so in my book they could have easily played DI last year, no doubt.

As it seems Bishop is #1, no doubt for now, dont go ape s#@t, but the truth is the truth, Los Altos would always beat Damien, reason need someone to throw to mendrun, and coaching just not as good as Gano and crew, no doubt about that no one on the top 10 other than Bishop can beat st francis,

Dont say it damien dad no damien could not do it niether could covina, rowland, west co or any of the also rans, hell glendora beat covina and we all know what DAMIEN did to glendora, so we shall see after this week how every one is really going to do in the next season no more weak schedules to hide behind.

And all the crazy numbers these guys are putting up will slowly begin to average out, as we shall see.

Hey just for kicks how did damien loose to ST JOHN BOSCO and LOS ALTOS again.


Jim Garrison said:

Mike-

Certain demographic group? Interesting as what group you think would find you funny.

But to answer your question, no I don't fall into that group. I mean I have all my teeth, went to school in a normal sized bus, moved out of my parent's house, and I'm allowed to use the computer without the state supervising me.

Jimbo-

Thanks for the kind words, I figured it would probably go over most heads but it was too good not to use.

SD-Lancer said:

hmmmm..I think there are only 3 players from amat on the Browns: McCutcheon, Brown, and Russell. If there is someone else please tell me becasue it would be news to me. The next Amat pro is going to be Ryan Smith who graduated in 2003. He graduated from the Univrsity of Utah in three years and played with the 12-0 team with Alex Smith and is now back with the coach who recruited him, Urban Meyer. He took advantage of a new NCAA rule which allows for any player who has eligability left to transfer anywhere he wants without sitting out a year. Ryan has developed into a smart defensive back with a lot of speed. He currently starts for the Florida Gators and already has 4 interceptions this year. Look for him to go in the 3rd or 4th round of the draft next year.

Jimbo G-man said:

Jim Garrison =

Don't laugh, okay smirk a little but if Mike does pull a muscle will it be,

"back and to the left, back and to the left! "

Miss the high brow humor! Been a little cancerous in here recently but THAT was still the funniest line ALL year, even if it did go over alot of heads! Close second was the mocking "eeeeeeerrrrrrrrrr"-fest! In the words of the Church Lady, "THAT was special!"

Tartan boy lives! said:

History Lesson #1:

Bishop Amat should be No. 1.Because , because, because, well when you're this good historically and win as many championships historically and put as many players into Div 1 schools historically, and have 4 players on the same Browns team opps NOW, and win as many Div I Championships historically and play the best historically, and take football very seriously historically, and dominate the Valley historically, and have the best players historically and compete at levels no one can understand historically and well ...Amat is clearly presently No. 1What is so difficult to understand if you just ignore recent history and look at the rankings from an historical perspective.

bluorca said:

Might as well do Damien...

Damien's opponents so far...

>Riverside Poly is 3-3. Also lost to 4-2 Great Oak 43-7 and 3-3 Canyon Springs 42-0.

>St. John Bosco is 6-0 and LAT #17. I'm sure this team has a few Div-1 recruits. Help me out here guys...Wins include 5-1 Rancho Verde 38-7 and Valencia 55-34.

>Claremont is 2-4 and also lost to 3-4 South Hills 9-4? lol what a score! Lost also to 3-3 Charter Oak 21-20.

>Los Altos is 4-3 and also beat 3-4 South Hills 22-21. Losses are to 5-1 St. Francis, 2-4 Western, and 2-4 Diamond Ranch. No need for scores.

>Charter Oak is 3-3 and also lost to 4-2 Upland 38-14, 4-2 Glendora 14-7. Beat 3-3 West Covina 10-7.

>Glendora is 4-2 and also lost to 5-1 Capistrano Valley 26-25. Wins over 5-1 Covina 28-14, 3-3 Charter Oak 14-7, and 5-1 Rowland 30-29.

Mike said:

Ok Jim,

Sorry for not being funny. I bad! Guess you don't fall into a certain demographic group.

Have fun listening to those Jim Healy reruns.

Opps sorry couldn't resist!

I know not funny.

bluorca said:

To be fair...

Amat's opponents so far...And all rankings are from the LA Times.

>St. Paul is 3-3 with a Div 1 recruit at RB. Also lost to 5-1 St. Bonaventure(LAT #6) 36-6 and 3-3 Loyola 23-13.

>Valencia is 2-5 with Div 1 recruit at RB. Losses include 7-0 Corona Centennial (LAT #8) 46-35, 6-1 Orange Lutheran (LAT #11) 47-17, 6-0 St. John Bosco (LAT #17) 55-34, and 6-0 SO Notre Dame (LAT #3) 24-21.

>Hart is 3-4 with Div 1 recruit at RB. Losses include 5-1 St. Bonaventure (LAT #6) 34-0, 5-1 Moorepark (LAT #18) 42-24, 6-0 Westlake 28-27, and 4-2 CC Canyon (LAT #10) 41-25. Beat Loyola 49-21.

>Rancho Cucamonga is 5-1 with 2 Div 1 recruits at WR. Lost only to Amat 27-17. Beat West Covina, Carter, South Hills.

>Carson is 4-2 and former #1 team in City Section. Lost to 4-2 Harvard Westlake 31-30, also 5-1 Compton Dominguez (LAT #13) 32-26. Beat 4-2 Venice (LAT #21 and #2 City Section) 30-25.

>St. Francis is 5-1 and former #1 team in Western Division. Lost only to 3-3 Amat 29-28. Also beat Burbank Burroughs and Los Altos.

Jim Garrison said:

Mike,

Claiming to be the orginal "clone" on this board is like claiming to be the first person who liked Vanilla Ice. Sure, you're the original but in retrospect its not something you should be proud of.

You bat .500 because you actually do have solid opinions regarding your team, and you attempt to back them up. However, for the love of God, stop trying to be funny. It's not working and you're just gonna end up pulling a muscle or something while doing it.

Thank you.

AMAT 73 said:

Jeremy, How come it counts when your SGV schools barely beat a team but not for AMAT.How come it counts when your SGV schools rebuild but not for AMAT. As far as no visible gap between AMAT and them just look at the fact that they won't play us so you can physically see the gap. Remember be careful of what you ask for as you may not like what you see. GO LANCERS.

bluorca said:

South Hills does indeed have a championship history and they could probably compete in the Pac-5. But if this did happen, it could be several years that Huskie fans would see a league championship again (if ever). When you come second or third in the Pac-5, you get to play the 2nd or 1st place team from another league. And thats where South Hills would exit from the playoffs. Lets find a Pac-5 league for the Huskies...

Serra/Trinity Leagues -> Catholic football farms (Top Programs include Mater Dei,Loyola, Santa Margarita, St John Bosco, Amat, Servite, Orange Lutheran, SO Notre Dame,etc.)...No public schools allowed. Even if they weren't there is no way on this earth or mars that South Hills could match the recruiting practices of these schools year in and year out.


Sunset League -> Huskies would have to compete with football farms Los Alamitos, Edison, Newport Harbor and Esperanza EVERY year. Last years SH team was awesome and they still lost to Esperanza. Esperanza lost in the final to Loyola.

South Coast League -> Would be a little easier for the Huskies but they still would have to play year after year againts farm Mission Viejo as well as Capo Valley, San Clemente, Tesoro, etc. Mission Viejo recruits more than some private schools. How else would they schedule Concord De La Salle?

Moore League -> This is by far the easiest league that SH would fit into. The only problem is this little unknown school called Long Beach Poly. LBP has spit out more Div 1 recruits than any other high school in southern california. Poly is unstoppable even when they are having an "off" season. If SH joined this league, and if they had a team like they did last year, they would probably come in 2nd. Because of Poly, SH would probably never see a 1st place league championship again.

It's totally possible that if South Hills had a team like they did last year they could compete in the Pac-5 . The problem is that South Hills does not recruit like the top Pac-5 schools. Because of this, SH could never match the roster depth these teams have EVERY year. Their 2004 and 2006 teams prove this. So yes, they could compete. But no, league championships would be EXTREMELY rare and South Hills would never again win a CIF SS Championship. The Pac-5 is actually stronger than Division 1 last year. And before anyone looks at Amat's record and scores and makes any conclusions based on Amat's performance, you must keep in mind that this Amat team is starting only 2 seniors on defense, has a rookie young coach, and has been fighting the god-forsaken injury bug all season. Bishop Amat will be the underdog when they play Crespi, Loyola, and SO Notre Dame.


bluorca said:

Bonita's Opponents So Far...

>West Valley is 0-6.
>South El Monte is 2-4 and also got rocked by San Dimas 34-19.
>Pomona is 2-4 and also got hammered by Covina 48-0.
>Northview is 3-3 and got machine gunned by 1-5 Walnut 34-9.
>San Dimas is 3-3 and barely escaped Baldwin Park.
>Wilson is 4-2 and by far the best team Bonita has faced this season. This explains why Bonita only beat them by 3 pts. Wilson also lost to 3-3 Schurr 27-12.

I'll leave it up to you guys to debate if Bonita belongs in the top 3 in the valley...or the top 5 even...

Mike the "Original" Clone said:

Thank you Mr. Garrison

I’ll take a .500 hitter anytime.

Your right my takes are maybe brutal sometimes but I usually back my takes up with some facts or other little “tid bits� that I hear here and there. Maybe I have been a little edgy this past two weeks. Seeing a great bunch of kids struggle is not what I want to see happening. But I think I have been within the “Big Guys� ground rules. Maybe pushed them a little, but inbounds or I think he would have tossed my big butt outta here. I’m sure he’d let me know. And when some people attack me he has always been fair and let me respond. Personal digs I can take.

As far as the other clones in here go, Ask around or even poke around you will see that I am Aram’s own original “Mike the Clone�. I have been here from the start with guys like “BleedBlueandGold� “Bluorca� “jeffrulerson� “Buck� “Plaidman� and the list goes on. I am not responsible for what other people say or what they “morph� into such as “wanna� be Clones.

Obviously Aram has a group of people who listen to Romie’s show and know the “Gloss� and yes I am one of them. I am not responsible for others wanting to be my juniors here in Aram’s jungle. I am the original!

Some of the above mentioned make me look a crème puff compared to what I have written. Heck some of these “Bagpiper� honks would not even last a week in a full blown Amat blog they’d be whining like little Chris’s. I can hear them now…�Oh that mean Bluorca smacked me down. Wah Wah Wah.

And heck that poor coach over there at the “SGValleys Golden Dome� is in his first year. Give me some credit at least I waited about four years to start evaluating my guy.

All through my life I strived to be the best and I accept nothing less. Oh sure I have failed but I have sucked it up learned from it and turned things around. That guy across from me wasn’t going to beat me again NEVER. And if I did get beat again I know that when he went home that night he knew who he was up against that day.

I surround myself with leaders not followers and I “expect� others to do the same. Some times being brutally honest bothers people; hell I have never been politically correct and won’t tolerate having those around me PC either.

So maybe I should just become a kinder, gentler softer Mike the Clone. I’ll consider it but don’t count it; it’s not my style. Wasn’t raised that way, wasn’t coached that way, didn’t play that way and didn’t coach that way.

So there you go fellow bloggers a little "Dr. Phil" session and insight into what’s inside Mike the Clones dome!

Go Bagpipers!

I AM OUT!

BEARCAT FAN said:

LETS NOT FORGET BONITA'S JEFF CHAVEZ HE ONLY THREW FOR 411 YARDS AND RUSHED FOR 77 YARDS IN LAST WEEKS COME FROM BEHIND WIN AGAINST H H WILSON, 40-37, BEWARE LOS ALTOS, CHARTER OAK AND DIAMOND RANCH. KEEP IT GOING BEARCATS.

Jim Garrison said:

I always wondered what happened to all the people who got "run" in Rome's Jungle for being uncreative, mean spirited, and flat out unfunny.

Now I no longer wonder. I just wonder if Aram will ever run them for the same violations here. Just a reminder Mikey, it's have a take and do not suck. I'll give you this, you're usually at about .500 with that one.

Wait a minute! said:

Amat goes from "wanting the coach fired " to #1 in one week? After getting beat at home to Carson? After getting blasted by Valencia !St. Francis beats Los Altos who's on a three game slide and Amat barely beats a St. Francis team that is still steaming from the homer job or a pylon that may or may not be a TD? And they leap FROG to #1? Wow now that's about as self serving and self centered as you can get?

Damien , Bonita, Amat in that order this week. Bishop Amat is the only team in the top three that's been blown out on the road and physically abused at home!

NEXT week after beating Chaminade and beating Notre Dame than you're King of the Hill , AGAIN. Just not this week. You're 3-3 aren't you? Even USC wouldn't make that claim!

Amat is incredible! The King rises again! It's like looking at Mick Jagger parade around in spandex singing the same old tired song, "Under my thumb...the San Gabriel Valley is ...under my thumb!"

Well Amat ,'that's a gas, gas, gas!"

john said:

jeffrulerson,

Amat at #1, and I spoke up when they were left off the top 10 last week. I said it earlier this year, even in a down year and a new inexperienced coach that they could beat any team in the valley.

123,

I's sorry it was Los Alamitos in 2002, Loyola in 2003 and we got beat by Los Alamitos in 2004. I thought the 2004 team had the most experienced line but they underachieved. I think 2003 was the start of the end to DiFori. They did want his head than. Your answer, yes. They could have been two time defending D-1 champions if DiFori could have kept the intensity up all year.

#1 Amat ( not a team in valley could beat them)
#2 Bonita (Needs to be beat)
#3 Damien (at this point)
#4 Glendora (Rowland who!!!)
#5 Diamond Ranch (Strength of schedule got them ready for Los Altos)
#6 Los Altos (should be healthy, should advance in playoffs)
#7 Covina (just a thought)
#8 Rowland (not as good or disciplined as they should be)
#9 South Hills
#10 Charter Oak (known as charter choak for a reason, we will see)

MATMTWTBAG said:

When this Blog turn into the Jim Rome Show....???call the Rome Show and have it out there.,....this is Arams blogs.....hey Aram block all this nonsense.,.......there is no need for it......

Mike The Clone said:

DING! DING! DING!

Nice blast at this clone “Errrrrrrrrr… Medication�. Once again the clone takes it like a man. Remember who’s your daddy!

With that said…

How long did that take you to type that with one finger clone junior? Just thought I'd ask? Seems that the vine you swung in here on broke and you took on a severe case of "EERRRRR VAN SMACK" on that knucklehead of yours.

Ok Clone, See you at the game it will be easy picking you out you'll be the one in front of the Tartan band and Pagentry marching into Citrus with the sandwich board signs draped over that body of yours reading:

"I'm satisfied being handed my lunch by Damien and just squeaking past Rowland and proud of it" …………………right clone?

Try setting your standards higher, strive for perfection or are willing to be standing next to the others salting my French fry's at McDonald's.

It’s ok junior your Daddy Clone is used to being the 900 pound Guerilla swatting away the ill informed and ignorant like little toy airplanes in some bad B movie.

And no I’m not “Tartan Boy� sorry to break that to you knowing that “follow the yellow brick road� fantasy world you live in. So slap on those ruby red slippers you’re used to wearing and might as well slap on that blue plaid dress too and start hoping that there really is no place like home come Friday night against Chino Hills.

Nice job “Errrrr… Medication� you get my huge post of the day!!! Ding! Ding! Ding!

Good Night Now!

I AM OUTTTTTT!

MATMTWTBAG said:

To all Amat Loyalist........we had this talk amongst ourselfs here on the blog.....we are remaining positive when it come to our Blue and Gold........Lets not "JEREMY" get us going in the wrong direction trying to rattle our chain here.....He is anti Amat..........we know what we are and that is the best in SGV period!

Jeremy said:

EVERYONE please READ this . . . .
espacially Amat supporters . . . .


South Hills-young and rebuilding in '06
Los Altos-malfunctioning and self-destructing after DAMIEN victory.

Los Altos- barely loses to St.Francis/Amat barely beats St.Francis w/help from refs

South Hills- barely loses to Rancho Cucamonga/Amat barely beats R.C.

There is NO, NO, NO visible gap between AMAT and the rest of the SGV. SH and LA could very well play in the PAC-5.

By the way the SOUTHWEST with out ORANGE LUTHERAN and NEWPORT HARBOR is rated as the no.4 division. STOP thinking you're on another planet.

Errrrrrr,,,medication! said:

Mike-

A coach and/or a former coach try to defend the Glendora Team from your malicious rumor mongerings and inside information posts and NOW YOU WANT AN APOLOGY!

Maybe you are a football genius but your people skills is what got you fired ..opps..retired...errrr.... medically unable to perform...errrr....need some Coaching VIAGRA? .......errrr...... Cheernobyling......errrr...can not stop......errrring...errrrring ........errrrrinnngg....... Need the help of........errrrr...tartan boy.......because....errr...... need to .....save face............errrrrrrrrrr...where...errrr has...errrr he ....been....??????..errrrrr..... Muust have made him up..........look ......errrr.... they all know.....errrrrr...make a joke out of my ..........childish......Mike the Clone..............errrrr.... talking to......tartan boy......charade.......errrrrrr....Jim...errr.... Rome.......may......oh...no...laugh at me......like everyone .....errrr... else ...errrr..did....Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Need .........v...i...n.....e..........errrrrrrr...or...errrr....at ....least .......errrrr....new.......image.......errrr............errrrrrr....

But hey Glendora lost......errrrrrr... new ...errrr... material loverload.....aghhhhh ...feel better! Thanks tartanboy. You're my very bestest imaginary helpererrrr.....oppps..I'mmmmm ........errring...again!!!!!! HELP......You're Mike the Clone and thankfully we're NOT......Good night nowwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lock that basement for a week while the loyal fans regroup and get ready for Friday's game.

kab said:

1.AMAT- WOULD BEAT DHS IF THEY PLAYED BACK TO BACK
2.DAMIEN-WOULD BEAT LA IF THEY PLAYED AGAIN
3.BONITA-NEEDS TO LOSE TO LOSE THIS SPOT
4.ROWLAND-COULD BEAT GHS IF THEY PLAYED AGAIN
5.GLENDORA- WOULD BEAT COVINA IF THEY PLAYED AGAIN
6.COVINA-WOULD BEAT LOS ALTOS IF THEY PLAYED TODAY
7.LOS ALTOS-BETTER BEAT SOUTH HILLS
8.SOUTH HILLS-LOOKING BETTER WILL BE TOP 5
9.CHARTER OAK-WOULD BEAT WESCO
10.WEST COVINA-COULDNT BEAT ANY ABOVE TODAY

123 said:

John,

You are correct. The fullback did drop the ball three times, but I felt the momentum shifted on that roughing the kicker call.

Nonetheless, I always wonder if Amat could have been back to back D1 champs. In that 2003 season, Amat would have met Loyola in the semifinals, a team they beat during the season. I don't recall who they would have met during the 2004 season.

Mike said:

Plaid Man!

Fair enough but as long as I have been here in Arams jungle I have never heard a former or current “COACH� smack a kid like that no matter how suttle it was. Other vine swingers yes but never a “Coach�.

I still say it was an "experiment" last year and it seems I'm looking pretty good once again with that statement with our record and group of talented kids with untapped talent not as well prepared like they should be. This was the "bagpipers" year (my opinion) and with a lot of these kids not having a junior year of varsity experience, which they should have had, it really shows.And let's quit singling out the QB spot it doesn't stop there. Compound this with the disarray on the sidelines and your seeing us implode into a mess. And where does that mess lie?.........right at "Pasqies" feet.

Some people think I want to see “Pasqie� go, that’s far from the truth. I just think here’s a guy who has reached a certain level and he is stuck there. He needs to reevaluate the staff around him and take it to the next level if he is a competitor and I think he is then that's what he needs to do.It’s beginning to look like there is a lot of complacency on that staff and everyone is in their own little comfort zone. Certain comments tip that off.

The kids like him, and the “button wearers� really love him deep down he knows what to do. I least I hope he does!

Again my opinion and I stand by it.

Aram said:

I'm already an Amat fan, just like how I am a fan of all the teams I cover. I mainly want this area to be the best it can be. I want all of SoCal and the country to know we have great athletics here.

joe said:

my friend josh just to remind you, this is high school football not the pros or even college get off that we played these teams and you played those my friend come friday night its anyones game,go ahead and keep talking trash and smack its like feeding raw meat to the animals

Plaid Man said:

Hey Clone,

I enjoy (most of the time) your posts and passion. But you are really reaching in your attempt for an appology on this one. YOU are the one who called last year's QB "an experiment" and a "duck-thrower" right? Not major maliciousness, but certainly a personal putdown on a kid who competed hard for and clearly won the job last year. He was not an outstanding talent, but certainly provided leadership and made enough plays at the position to give the Tartens some balance on O. In contrast you are blasting the former ast. coach for saying they went with the kid "they felt gave them the best chance to win". Wow! Such an affront! What a low blow! Come on Mike, you're acting more like "Chris" here. Coaches say things like that publically ALL THE TIME. It's the right way to say it and it's the truth. Now I still believe our current guy can "find it", but it's his to find. I feel that the coach has only been trying to find a way to get him "locked in". He's had opportunity and I feel still should the next 2 weeks to try and make it happen. This team has been a bit better than many thought with the youth and loss of so many key guys from last year, but yes it could do more and the coach seems to have pushed them to get there. Will they? We'll see. I'm hoping & believing for a strong finish by these guys (especially the seniors). If not, then it maybe time to see what the future holds (and it looks good). But right now, go get Chino Hills guys, and O-line keep run blocking like you have and give your guy some time to make plays and QB...go for it!

jeffrulerson said:

john-
Who should be #1?

richard said:

way to go shhs! nice win, and, you got everyone in the game!!! way to see the future on the field!! thanks coach bogan!
those kids who have been busting butts on jv finally got a lil friday nite lights. thats great for team morale, even if it was against walnuts.
it will be good to have rowland at home this week, we will need that home field advantage, come on out everyone!
the dawgs have some summetin' summetin' going on, look out!!!

props to diamond ranch! stay off the field gano unless there is a time-out! you got beat(smashed mouthed) at home!!


dr, hope to see you guys in the playoffs.
wesco, whats up w/ you guys? does'nt anyone like eachother over there?
charter choke, nice win, keep it going, don't get soft!
covina, way to play tuff
bonita, you guys seem real, good luck!
damien, good team chemistry, you are the best(today)
ba, i never know what to think, nice win tho!

walnut, they need some coaching, those kids have some heart, just need help
nogles(remember them?) whats wrong w/ you guys, no heart?
northiew, good talent there, keep fighting
san dimas, coaches, you have the stud of the valley back there, use him wisely!
balpark, whatis up w/ the other 10 kids on each side of the ball, reading the papers?


john said:

damien fan,

your completely right you were beat by a team that has three losses, You should be #1.

Get real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


123,

I was at that 2004 quarterfinal game as well as the 2003 game.

In 2003 we had Los Alamitos beat in the rain but if I remember there were three fumbles around mid field by our running back that cost the game. Great game.

In 2004 I thought someone was going to go onto the field and straingle DiFore. It was 4 and less than a foot and Amat was running the ball down Loyola's throat. The field goal was for 40+ and the kicker was not known for a big legg. I still to this day do not know what Defori was thinking, they were calling for his head on the collection plate.

Mike said:

Greetings!

I'm Mike the Clone and you are Not!

Thank you for your clarification Clay L.

But if you were a stand up guy you should still apologize to Garrett Crook for the nice little hack job you did on him no matter how unintentional it may have been. I know Garrett just enough to know that he carries alot of what that team does on his shoulders just like a lot of the other kids I know and talk too do. You should still be ashamed of doing that. I only hope he doesn't see it!

And if that earlier post by a Blogger named Bill Strycula was really Coach Strycula. Then Coach I have lost all respect for you.

I don't think Principal Bruce would approve of one of his staff members calling some one with a different opinion a "sissy and a cry baby" or better yet a "uneducated idiot" do you? You know come to think of it I do remember you telling some fan in the stands to shut up from the press box two years ago after making a boisterous comment about the defense. Now that I thought was rather amusing.

But hey that's ok, it just tells us all a little more about you current and former coaches and where your heads are at and what your thinking.

Thanks for sharing!

Out!

To Josh From Jim said:

*Lets be honest....If Rowland has South Hills' schedule this year, whats their record?*\

It would be 4-3. Better than South Hills 3-4. And they probably would have put more than 9 up against Claremont.

damien fan said:

john-

damien did come up short against los altos, but they put the hurt on that team. you don't realize that los altos hasn't won a game ever since playing damien, even going as far as to lose to diamond ranch

MATMTWTBAG said:

Real glad for Dorian Wells..He is definitley is a playmaker. The talk of him as the everyday QB is pretty far fetched. I do not doubt that he can throw the ball. He is a great athlete. Utlizing his talent in the wing T is where it could be most effective, given a healthy Gaise and McBride (who ran for over 100 yards friday)Gamez, Bonilla and Wagner..........Coach Difiori did this mid season I believe in 2003???.(correction if I am wrong)..we lost in the quarter finals at Amat that year in the pouring rain to Los Alamitos.

Josh said:

Tommy T,

Do you think Rowland will beat SH this week?..They should right?..If they have the best pass-run threat in the SGV...hahaha... Rowland has played 1 real football game this year and LOST!!...I'm not saying that they're not good, but when you play weak opponents all season, then play a real football team, its like getting hit in the mouth when your not looking.. The speed of the game changes, the offensive and defensive scheme they are facing is at a higher level, I'm thinking this week will be close, but I'm seriously going to have to say SH will come out on top. The reason being is that they are playing better right now, and they have played better teams than Rowland this year... Lets be honest....If Rowland has South Hills' schedule this year, whats their record?

Clay L said:

Mike the Clone- I am not on the coaching staff this year. I was, however, for the last eight. My post was in response to what you said about last year, when I was involved.

jenny craig said:

For those calling me out I am right here. BP played their hearts out. 2 touchdowns called back??? I wonder what town the white hat lives in. Oh yeah, I already know it's San Dimas! Harris ran for 134. The line blocked well he ran well just wasn't ment to be I guess. BP got out coached? By Zernicko. He could not coach his way out of a wet paper bag. It was a good game I wish the refs would stay out of the way and let the kids decide it. Oh well, we will just have to beat Covina and cause a tie! Here we come Colts!

john said:

Buck,

your killing me, Damien #1. The last I saw, Damien lost to Los Altos.

Bluorca,

Love the blogs, keep it up. We xan only state the facts. Strength of schedule should never be underestimated and only the strong survive.

Lovethisgame,

Wells under center, does anyone remimber Randy Tanner in the early 80's. He too took some plays from under center and played Flanker, WO, Tailback and DB. And he too played at USC on Scholarship as one of the Mighty Lancers.

Check the comparisons between the two of these fine Lancers.

Go Lancers

No-Step said:

Mike and Buck
I've read some of the previous threads and, yes, I do agree. If GT fans are satisfied with 7-4 and 8-3 seasons, well, they're there. The idea is to win the LAST GAME. If the sport is Football, the ball and the foot must come in contact with one another, and if you can't kick, you spend a good portion of the game playing catch-up only to try a 2 pt. conversion. Come playoff time, all the weak sisters have turned in their gear. Only champions are left.
To win those 4 playoff games you must be able to kick and complete passes. If you can't do that, well, you're one-dimensional and hoping for "next year".
I understand that the Damien kid planted the ball in the end zone on every kickoff. and hit a 50+ yard field goal! What could GT do with that kind of weapon? There's a big difference between starting your series from the 20 and starting from the 35. I'm sorry, there must be at least one kid at GT who can kick, and someone else who can long snap, and if the staff won't look for those kids, they must not think it's that important. It's FOOT ball.

If the wing-T is so good, why doesn't Ohio State run it? Oh well, another 8-3 /7-4 and "next year".

DHS Dad said:

Yup,
I just thought at That point in the game you NEEDED to know how much the defense needed you. It was a big game 1 vs.2 and sooner or later a star was going to crack. Damien couldn't afford it being YOU.

Remember this. People will always have opinions or perspectives that you may or may not agree with, that's life. But this football team and this season, and whatever you and your team make of it is called OWNERSHIP! Every play is a personal statement. Every game is recorded history. You made a permanent PERSONAL statement against Glendora! I'M HERE! AND I'LL BE HERE ALL NIGHT! ALL NIGHT - EVERY PLAY!

We might have to relabel things that were opinion and relabel them with a more current factual ones. "suspect" defense out! "Seasoned" tested defense in!

Last point.

Last Friday you played like a "throwback" linebacker by the name of Mike Curtis! Ask your Dad and I'm sure he'll agree. Solid one on one open field monstrous hits, side line to sideline pursuit and leadership in the face of a running team with no other way to stay alive. To be the man you gotta play like the "man". Well you own that label now.

Best wishes in league. Must be nice to win side by side with the man who taught you how to love and play the game.

123 said:

Aram,

I wish the coaches had that same attitude during the 2004 quarterfinals. Amat was down 10-9 to Loyola with about 5 or 6 minutes to play in the game. Fourth and 1 (from what i've been told, it was more like fourth and a couple feet) and coaching staff tries an unsuccessful 40 yard field goal! Least to say Loyola would go on to win the game and the CIF Division 1 Championship!

In the previous year, Amat was leading against Los Alamitos late in the third quarter with all momentum going for Amat until Amat was called for roughing the punter! I was seating midfield and the mud had caused the guy to slide underneath the punter. I believe Los Alamitos would win it all during that year as well.

Aram said:

Great take "disillusioned,"

I was waiting for somebody to say that. It's pretty clear that Verti is Amat to the bone and he feels that in situations like that, the Amat coach always has the team to take opponents down when he wants to. That's basically what he said in his interview "I thought we had the players to get 3 yards," that's a powerful statement when you think about it.

Tommy T said:

Rowland 43.........Nogales O

The Rowland Coaching staff finally let QB Chase throw a quick post and Bingo TD. I've been waiting 3 and half years for that play to be called. We used to run it at Los Altos back in 1977. I thought maybe CIF made it an illegal forward pass for the last 4 years.

If the Rowland Coaches pass the ball to open up the run game and maybe throw in a screen pass or maybe a draw play like last year, NOBODY I Mean NOBODY will beat Rowland. RB Renee is the best in the SGV, QB Chase is the top pass-run threat in the SGV, LB Norys is involved in every defensive play, Kicker Leonard is better than half the college kickers in the nation and the rest of the Team is Poised to take the Championship. Remember clown, they lost by 1 point not 20.

Tommy T is out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

disillusioned said:

I think that many of the long time fans are going to wait until the "on-the-job-training" is finished. Everyone is praising the decision for the "rookie" to go for the 2-point conversion, but we were inches away from losing. Everyone knows that the conventional wisdom is to go for the tie at home and the win on the road. That gives you the best chance (over the long haul) to win games. I think that it was really just a reckless gamble that was an "image builder" far more than it was a good football decision. If they make it he is the hero and if they miss "it was a gutsy call" and he "showed confidence in his guys". And thh call was the equivelant of giving Michael Jordan the ball and getting out of the way. Not great football just a player making a great play. Still not sold.

BUCK said:

Hey Coach LEWWWWWW,
This is a blog, it's supposed to be fun. Although I don't agree with everything Mike the Clone has to say, he is usally very entertaining and sometimes right on point. Come on, you must agree a little with Mike, you guys have won a couple tough ones to teams no-one thought you would win. Then you allow other teams you should have mercied to stay with you and lose one to. You guys are not progressing. Your alternating QB's in the 6th game of the season, your not a very good pass blocking team but your routes take longer than 5 seconds to run, you had a guy who could barley walk attempt to return a punt last week and your special teams, Well, they have a lot work ahead of them. All I am saying is, that some fixes seem to be common sense. Stick with one QB. Use the Shotgun more with quick passes, run some wide reverses to relieve the pressure from everyone following Edmonds. Teach your PAT kicker a step and a half ONLY and get him a kicking shoe, he kicks with his toe, when two round objects hit each other they very seldom go where you want it to go. Oh, and by the way, every head coach I saw today on TV had a headset and situational play cards with them, maybe you should try that. This is just some friendly observations from somebody who really likes Coach "P"'s way with the kids.
Hey NO-STEP
Thanks for the explaination on the wing-T, it sounds like you have seen this before and seen the results first hand. I know it is to late to change it but they can mix other formations with the wing-T to open up some kind of passing game and re-open the running game before Edmonds gets seriously hurt. Like I said before, come up with new formations and plays, treat Chino Hills like a pre-season game, work on the new stuff. Get the injured kids healthy and get the fun back in the game. They need to run the table on the last three games of the season to have a play-off spot.

Aram said:

Hey Amat fans,

Where were all of you on Friday night? Weak crowd. Did the rain and chance to watch the Tribune's online scoreboard keep you away from the stadium? Is that why the scoreboard had 70,000 hits on Friday night? Those would barely be acceptable answers. Some people commented to me on the sideline, saying they couldn't believe how light the crowd was. Still big, but not Amat big.

watching from the stands said:

covina likes flying low and avoiding the radar,thier not a one player team,LIKE BALDWIN PARK ,covina is for real ! mike mcd,is not the only player that covina has, they are loaded from the o-line to the db's, .it's cool, all the talk is about the bagpippers,damien, CO,LA ,it's all good and fun to read .but when everyone eles bows out in the first and second round you will still be reading about covina!! THIS TEAM IS VERY VERY STRONG

Mike said:

So "No Step" you are basically saying what I have been saying about "Coach P" all along. We are going to be at the level we are at right now. Just a good team with with a bunch of untapped or misused talent unable to reach the next level.

Nothing more, Nothing less.The status quo.

He is a good coach but not a great coach.

Out!

Living Legend said:

Hey Aram nice grade for Bp! Oh and people come on, no one is going to beat Covina in league....Covina has more athletes then anyone in the league...Oh and if i need to remind you they have the best football player in the valley...yes i know someone is going to say Mendrun is the best player..last time i checked after throwing or running for a touchdown McDoungh is the only quarterback in the valley to then turn around a lead a defense at middle backer! The Farm is for real~

no-step said:

BUCK

Coach P won't run from the shotgun. He's a wing-T/Delaware guy. He was so at Ayala, and Damien too. That offense is easy to teach and to run, and you don't need exceptional players to execute it. That offense has been around for 60 + years, and still wins maybe 70 percent of the games it plays. The problem is, it seldom wins the big game. Delaware teams don't win many championships. Teams that run it will, every so often, make first place, but not usually move beyond the second round of the playoffs. It is a great offense when you play weaker teams, but when it faces a savvy D co-ordinator who takes away the FB, and doesn't rotate the secondary, and makes the center block backside, the most you have is a buck sweep. You won't win many games when that's all you have...witness last Friday. Unfortunately, this is the best that Glendora will have..If only's - and almosts. It's like taking your sister to the prom. Coach P. is a good coach, but he's never had a kicking game and his passing game is always suspect.

Dan said:

Joe your right, when that gun sounded the scoreboard said 10 to 7 Charter Oak thats all that matters now. The C.Oak fan was rubbing it in thus my responce about the refs & fumbles. The game is history & its in the record books and there is nothing further to say. All I know is West Co. better get it together as a team real quick cause league is here and South Hills & Rowland are licking their chops because of the way the Bulldogs played the last few weeks, they've got a lot of improvement that has to get done or it will be another dissapointing season.
There is one bright spot from the game & that is the "D" looked real good last week with all the starters back and except for one trick play
they shut down Charter Oak. If we can get the
offense to live up to its hype they can be a force.

Mike said:

Oh yeah put my real name on what I said for what reason so you can go public and hack my kids up too!

Out!

Mike said:

Heard some rumblings from the basement and my phone was ringing off the hook with people going did you see? did you read it? so I had to disconnect from my battery charger and storm upstairs to see what all the commontion was all about.

Well, Well, Well, lookie here fellow bloggers seems the Clone has invaded the inter sanctum and has ruffled some feathers. Check this out, you Amat hacks.

Actually have a staff member posting on a blog. And I say a staff member because of the “As a staff� comment in his blog. So who know if he is or not! Wow when was the first time you saw that? And granting that he is staff sure gives you more insight into how these guys think.

And isn’t that nice, publicly knocking one of his own kids. "Brad gave our team the best opportunity to win." nice public little hack job on Garrett Crook As if that poor kid hasn’t been carved up by you guys already You should be ashamed of yourself. If that were my kid I’d be pissed for you going public with a statement that should have remained internal amongst the staff. If you were on my staff I’d ask you to step down from your coaching position for making public statements like that.

Your problem coach isn’t only at the QB spot.Open your eyes and get the big picture. Can I make a suggestion to you, spend more time in the video room and less time here with us vine swingers. Obviously your more worried about your reputation here in blog world than you are with what’s going on down on that field. Go do your homework then come back and “Van Smack� me, an adult all you want. Do your video work, apply what you see to the practice field, and come prepared on Friday night. You haven’t been prepared for three weeks now.

And you think I have no idea what I say? Coach make me a believer because I don’t think you have an idea and it’s been showing the last three Friday nights.

Thanks for singling me out again Mr. Lewallen I’m just the loudest disgruntled “bagpiper� fan. But I don’t mind you can go ahead and have at me. What’s the old saying “If you can’t take the heat in the kitchen, then get out of the kitchen�

Oh and nice stones comment too very nice, class act real classy. I apologize ladies.

bluorca said:

123

Amat does miss Gaisie...he's supposed to be back in time for Crespi but we'll see what happens. McBride is a good back but I believe that Gaisie is more of a natural RB even though he is smaller. You find many that disagree with me though. Gaisie also is a veteran having played last year as well. How many games did Gaisie miss last year because of injury? I do know one thing for sure and that is Mrbride is probably going to be better NEXT year than Gaisie is THIS year. Well, I hope so anyways! lol. I for one would like to see Wells moved to the RB position. The kid is a natural and he will excel at any position he plays at. Moving Wells to the QB position would be a huge change in the offense. Wells might be able to throw and run but having a running QB changes your entire offensive scheme. Entire playbooks would have to be thrown out or re-written. Is this what Amat wants to do in the middle of the season? Probably not but if Verti believes that this is the best for the team then we have to trust his judgment and then bitch about his decisions afterwards! hahahaa! Verti better not rely on that direct snap to Wells anymore. It will not work againts Chaminade. The coaches at Chaminade are watching the Amat/St.Frances game right now. I guarantee you, they will be prepared for any direct snap action when they play friday night. Ya'll have a nice day...

annony said:

Good job for both teams. Damien for being a high end school, your team did not show any class towards the end of the game. The kind of playing you did should go out as a class act not a trashy one. Glendora, you have the talent on the team, use them. Coach P and the other coaches, I may not know a lot about football but i do know you can get better results out of your kids if you believe in them and right now, I don't think the coaching team believes in their players. I have been told you base your decision on playing kids who do good in practice. I know there are other kids that do good in practice but never see the field. You also like to play your Seniors and that's okay but when it is not working in some places, it is broken. Repair it by putting some other year in to make them work harder. What happened to the kid who blocked the kid. Give him a chance to help the team. He could of made a difference on defense. He'll never know sitting on the sidelines. There are other receivers who can step up to the plate when needed. Get the confidence back into the QB. Make sure you work on the kicker or ask for new try outs. There are kids who can kick but have not been given the chance. Have a nice talk with your kids and get some of their input. Believe me, the kids know of the hidden talents you have not given a chance. Coach P is a good coach and I am sure he is working on these problems but just in case, someone get the word out to him. Good luck Glendora, see you in the play offs.

Clay Lewallen said:

As much as I didn't want to post anything here, I feel it is time to.
Mike the Clone-You need to stop talking about things that you have know idea about. In your latest post you said, "I'm beginning to think that Pasqie needs to clear house with his staff and start over next year. He needs an offensive coordinator that has a clue. If that guy upstairs is calling plays then fire his ass now. He has no clue and when an O-coordinator has no clue then it comes back to the head coach who hired him in the first place." I hate to be the one to break it to you, but coach P is the one that calls the plays. Are you saying he should fire his own ass? In some previous posts, you make reference to Garrett losing a year because coach P played, as I believe you said, "the duck thrower". Did it ever cross your mind that as a staff we thought Brad gave our team the best oppurtunity to win. I also remember reading you thought that some of the runningbacks this year should have played a lot more last year. Do you remember who the RB was? It was Ben Rodriguez. I do believe that he was 1st team all league. Coaches play the guys they believe give the team the best oppurtunity to win.

Aram-I think this is a great way to let people voice thier opinions. However, I wish people had the stones to put thier real names next to what they have said.

HSFB Lover said:

gp,

You are right. DHS4LIFE needs to be taught a few things about being classy and not giving his school a bad name by the things he writes. I wish I knew who it was and I'd have a word with him myself. It's embarrassing!... As for your tartan boys never coming in here and saying anything "classless", go back to the blogs after our QB was taken away in an ambulance at the Bosco game. More than one of your guys was saying that they were going to "hurt him worse", "take him out", and other things along that line.

DHS4LIFE,

I know you have a lot of pride in your school, but you don't show it by putting everyone else down! PLEASE think before you write and SPELL CHECK too!!!

BUCK,

I'm finding that things don't always look as they appear and that sometimes we don't always know the background behind what happens on the field. Being an all-boys school, we kind of expect to get ragged on from boys at co-ed schools. BUT when coaches, who are supposed to show a lot more class than that, spew those kinds of things, it tends to make you a little "grumpy" and do things you normally would not. I cannot believe that Pasquie would have endorsed this kind of behavior and would hope that he sees to it that, in the future, his coaches have as much class as he has.

joe said:

randy thiers no reason to get excited about a win over nogales and no thier no sting still from the lose to glendora the better team didnt win we have a chance to win league not like glendora who better pray for hopefully 3rd ,chino and chino hills look out and dan take your lose to co like a man ,quit blamming the refs or who ever you crack me up you scored 7 points
i am joe the clone and your not lol.

123 said:

Has anyone checked up on that Gaisie kid from Amat? According to the program that I bought, he was averaging 8.5 yards a carry before he was injured. Being out so long, I would assume you might need a little time to get back into game shape.

Great performance from both teams by the way. I guess Our Lady Queen of Victory was praying for the Amat side.. =)

AHile(40DEUCE) said:

I just want to say that I am not the one posting comments under the name "42"!!! To the "Damien Dad"- thanks for the love! I heard someone yellin my name that night! I dont know if that was you but whoever you are thanks for the love! I appreciate it. As for the Damien Defense, keep expecting the good play and hard hits!!! We(the defense) take pride in what we do and practice real hard! Coach Caroll always has us ready with a gameplan to put us in the right positions to win! As for right now we will never forget being called "Suspect, with only 2 returning starters!" That will always keep us motivated!The Spartans are playing as a TEAM right now! We understand the TEAM concept! And hats off to the Tartans. They played hard.

HILE

randy said:

dont get all hurt cuz you called out....you just have no realistic FB smarts...he is a helluva football player, i totally see this but your claim that he should be running the offense as the 1st team QB is ridiculous--unless Verti is scrapping everything right here and now and getting ready for next yr!

luvthisgame said:

FYI Randy,

Wells CAN THROW THE BALL TOO!!!! He has displayed this in practice and was a QB in the past. I never said anything about running all game.Now who's simple minded. You just refuse to give this kid his, or any other for that matter, their just due. AMAT WON and he is the main reason, no disrespect to the rest of the team. That IMPRESSED Verti, his staff, Aram, the Tribune, heck everyone in the SGV. If you have any more questions or doubts, just ask Wells' DADDY!!! I hear is always at the the Chalk Talk. But you already knew that too, right?

bluorca said:

Mike The Clone

Dude...you've cracked me up several times tonight reading through these newest comments! Always a pleasure man. I feel your pain too. We've went through it 3x this year as well. DA PAIN OF DE FEET HUH? Yeah...it stinks like the bottom of my fish tank. Thank you for your kind words as well. Sorry about the lack of speculation on the game man but it's just that I knew that Damien was awesome because of the fact that they played St. John Bosco and Los Altos so close. Many claim that Damien should have won both these games. I'll leave that up to you guys.

It's not gonna get any easier for you guys next week either. OH WAIT! It's just Chino Hills..don't worry. I mean, they are 5-1 but they lost to Mission Viejo 44-7. And everyone knows that the Diablos from Mission Viejo are a bunch of pansys. They are so sorry, they lost a couple of close ones to some no name weaklings called Mater Dei and Concord De La Salle. Man, they probably dont even actively recruit. HAHAHA! YEAH RIGHT!

I love nothing more than to cheer for an underdog who will be fighting hard next week againts the highest odds. I do wish the best of luck to the Glendora Tartans. I know you will make the playoffs! LATER!

chad said:

gp

i see maybe 4 different damien people talking while nearly everyone else talks about how dominant amat and glendora is

33-13

Panther Pride '06 said:

Anyone out there willing to give Diamond Ranch any respect now?? No, Los Altos didn't have have any severe injuries or something (like someone out there asked). DR went into LA on their Homecoming and punched them in the mouth. You let a guy run for 189 yards on you, there's no excuses. Aubrey Haynes is the real deal in the backfield (just ask USC-bound Marc Tyler of Oaks Christian, who got run over twice by AH last week). The preseason was tough, but we should have been 2-3 after beating Ayala and giving one away to Chino Hills. But coulda, shoulda woulda....whatever leaves us 2-4 now, with a chance to do some damage in our new league. I'm looking forward to our upcoming games with Wilson, CO, and Bonita.

Mr C said:

Amat fans win or loose you should never boo the kids on the field that shows a lot of class. I don’t usually make comments on this blog. I just read them. I had to comment this time only because I could not believe that the Amat fans would boo their players. Good job Amat. (Coaches, players, and all the fans that did not boo our team.) Mr. C

randy said:

hey luv this game,.....he ran it in from 3 yards out.....ballsy call, but a good call from 3yds out in that situation.....but how simple minded are you? they cant have wells running every down from the QB position---out of the shotgun weather he needs 3 yards or 15 yds...... yeah lets see here sweep left/sweep right, or up the middle....dude that will not work every down on every drive, how foolish are you?....listen to your daddy bluorca, he said it ealier-----RB/DB, instead of WR/DB is where dorians futures looks bright,.....i'll be at chalk talk, will you? bring your playbook from that undefeated 8th grade flag fb team too, oh and your madden '07 cheat sheet that i'm sure will impress Verti's staff....

randy said:

ha ha ha....hey AHS----6-oh baby.....scoreboard there kid!....looks like the got what they needed, when they needed it, looks like your boys JUST DONT WANT NONE from either D'Bar school huh buddy? that was probably the only shot at a league win for either of us, you own the doormat, and deservedly so...it felt good watching your players cry afterwards, kinda took me back 10 years or so when DBHS-AHS was the marquee march up of the Sierra League....when it meant something....damn!.....we return oh about 48 players next yr, 16 of them starters....Diamond Ranch went through the same thing last yr, going 2-8 in 2005 with a young team but looking like a contender against Ayal-0 and Los Altos...we'll be back, for one more run, while you get to endure the beatdown (again) in 2007......

GP said:

DHS4LIFE is not helping Damien get rid of it's classless acts. When has any GHS fan or polayer come in here and talked like the Damien kids have? Umm, never.

All that aside good job damien, you outplayed us last night. I wished you luck after the game and I still do wish it. I just hope you guys are a little more classy next time.

Mike the Clone said:

Hey Buck,

Hummm do you have a resume handy?.........you have some interesting takes on what’s going on with my "Bagpipers" and are you afraid of heights?

I like the point you make about starting the QB out of the shotgun. I think you’re on to something there and if you think about it, it all makes sense. You genius you.

Except your statement about the coaching raises a red flag. I'm beginning to think that Pasqie needs to clear house with his staff and start over next year. He needs an offensive coordinator that has a clue. If that guy upstairs is calling plays then fire his ass now.

He has no clue and when an O-coordinator has no clue then it comes back to the head coach who hired him in the first place.

In my opinion and here we go again I'll take some heat and be called all kinds of names for this. A coach “Pasqie" team is where a coached "Pasqie" team is going to be. His win loss record and the pattern he is developing 04' 05' is nothing more nothing less. It's been a talented athletic group of kids that make the coaching staff look good not the other way around.

The question is do we want to take it to another level? Personally yes! But with posts from certain "bagpiper" fans that's where they want to be and are happy with it. You know BUCK that "feel good about yourself politically correct bullshit zone" We are where we are going to be with "Coach P". But you have people at GHS that are satisfied with what they see.

Buck damn you, I started out today trying to be a nicer, sweeter, more "Chris" like don't make waves Mike the Clone wussie boy. But Buck you make to much sense and thanks for slapping me silly.

OUT! Mike "Van Smack" the Clone


42 said:

Well, if you watched the DHS-GHS game then you'd know that the Tartans pretty much gave the game to Damien....They missed a chip shot field goal at the begginning after a very nice drive...Then, we go on to commit a bunch of silly penalties and allow Damien to convert on almost every third down..It was sickening....3rd and 31 and Damien gains 40 yards like nothing....Damien was way overconfident to end the half as they let the clock run down quite a bit and instead of kicking the field goal they go and waste about 17 seconds of clock on oen play and then throw the interception on the play...They are lucky that Glendora did not take advantage of the stupid playcalling and execution by Damien to end the half...Well, hats off to Damien because if there was a team to beat us...They are the ones that I know were good enough to....Expect a loss to Chino Hills and a win over Chino from Glendora...They are still gonna be playoff-bound..

Damien Dad said:

FortyDuece-

That's the way a Captain plays! Ice pack on the neck vs. the Running Back knowing you're going to be there ALL NIGHT LONG! Sounds fair don't you think? Big momentum stopping hits ALL night! Somehow I think the 4-3 suits you better! Being the "man" in the middle and having Ballers(Stokes & Gomez) on each side made for a fun night and the best LB trio party so far!

Funny thing is when the RB was solo tackled he got 2 1/2 to 3 yards but was brought down "hard". When he busted a long gain he was Gang Tackled by 4 or 5 "hits" and worn down!

Enjoy the victory! Like I said earlier if Damien wins Coach Carroll gets the Game Ball! Best Damien victory I've seen in 3 1/2 years!

P.S.

Your Dad did a hell of a job!

Mike said:

Hey you guys you know what's really ugly?

I'm sittig here watching the USC game and the USC band keep's playing "Conquest" the same bloody song that Damien's band was playing last night during their romp over my "Bagpipers".

When oh when will this nightmare end?

Mike the Clone

Chalk Talk Vet! said:

Chalk Talk Vet!

Well I guess it's fun to be proven right!

Coach Verti will "right that Amat ship"! He's a winner and people don't become losers overnight. Some people may call that last play gutsy but Coach Verti just did what coaches do, "Trust THEIR instincts!"

Great job all around. Like I said at Chalk Talk, "He's( Coach Verti) doing fine. Putting players in position to make plays. You( Amat Family) are lucky to have him." Last night the AMAT players made plays!

Well, that was easy!

Coach Verti, it was pleasure to meet you at Chalk Talk Tuesday, sorry won't be late next time! Think I might have to get there a little early,lol Everybody LOVES a winner! Don't you know.

In the almighty words of Muhammed Ali after beating Sonny Liston! , "RUMBLE YOUNG MAN RUMBLE!!!!"

Big Tyler Thompson Fan! said:

Big Tyler Thompson Fan!

Great to hear they found that "speed" a spot! Good to hear he's healthy! Didn't see the game but I bet he looked GOOD going to the HOUSE!!!!

Wish I could see his Dad smiling and cheering for his son as he crossed the goal line!

You know I did see a big flash in the sky last night!!! Bet that was Lorenzo smiling from ear to ear!

Best wishes to the Thompson Brothers(Tyler and Alex (Monrovia & Citrus College? Right?) Classy, solid kids and speed to burn. Best wishes the rest of the way! Good things happen to good people.

AHS said:

Randy, Settle down. In the end Ayal'o' and D Bar will be turning in their gear the same day. We both sucked last night and neither team deserves the win in such an ugly game. D Bar couldn't even score or move the ball efficiently at all against a D that has given up an average of 35 points a game. How bout that vicious Ayala D stopping D Bar on three plays inside the 5. DBAR SUCKS

luvthisgame said:

CONGRATS LANCERS and DORIAN WELLS!!!!!!!

After this game, I don't believe there could still be anyone foolish enough to deny Wells' ability and effectiveness under center.

Aram, I saw you there. What do you think about it after seeing the young man in action?

BUCK said:

I usally do not like to respond to ignorance but DHS4Life, show some class, I know your coach and I am sure he does not appreciate your comments. I do not believe your a starter. If you are that confident in your personal ability, post your name and jersey number so we all can follow your game. If not, grab your water bottle, sit your butt back on the bench where it belongs and will be, if Coach Morrison finds out who you are. You guys are a very good team with some very good talent and showed a lot of class last night. Don't bring down the rest of your team (if you really are a player) by being ignorant.

Mike said:

Oh yeah I keep forgetting!

Will someone please call NORAD and tell them that those are just footballs and not missles being launched off the foot of that Damien kicker.

Just wanted to make sure they don't mistake those footballs for some incoming missile from that cognac sipping North Korean.

Man that kid can play right now at any D-1 school with a foot like that. That kid was incredible.

Out!

Mike the Clone

BUCK said:

WELLLLLL, that was a little embarrassing. Like I said earlier, Damien needs to be #1 and they proved it. Nice balanced attack with a big line on both sides. Very good kicking game (although I thought that was a little chicken sh%# kicking a field goal with seconds left and up by 17 points, but I did enjoy the boot, that guy is a D1 possibility). Damien out coached glendora on both sides of the ball. As for Glendora, another week of suspect play calling and missed tackles, I think the coach needs a play calling card, we run the same things in the same situations. I would hate to see what would happen if Edmonds goes down. If he is not running the ball, they are trying to throw it to him. Damien did exactly what I said would happen, stuff the box and make us throw. Where were the slants from last week that pushed back the linebackers. We are still running designed passing routes that take to long to develop. The QB is being sacked and our receivers are still in mid route. Give your QB's a chance, give them an option other than to throw to the one receiver. As I stated before, they need to run more reverses and bootlegs with Edmonds as a decoy, the whole defense follows #8, Crook has not kept the ball since the 20 yard run against Charter Oak. Where is the fast kid who blocked the field goal last week, get him into the game more with reverses. I do not like to complain about a problem without a solution, so here is BUCK's take for a successful season: write Chino Hills off, use them like a pre-season game. For the next two weeks, add some new sets, more shotgun sets, run from the shotgun, introduce quick passes to Edmonds, Vega and your tight end once in awhile. Stick with one QB (QBing is all about confidence) GET A KICKER!!, who can make easy field goals. Stop giving your opponets only 60 yards to go for a touchdown on all kickoffs, boot the ball toward the endzone or at least scrib it, give yourself a shot at getting the ball. Run some more razzle-dazzle, I liked the reverse pass (although everything took place between the tackles which, even if you did get fooled, you didn't have very far to go to recover), I just didn't like the timing of the call. Experiement next week with new plays that no one expects from you and have fun with homecoming, rest the injured, get your kids healthy and finish 7-3 with a shot to get into the playoffs. You have the coaching and the talent to be a better team than what you have been playing. Re-group, hold your heads up and stay together. Go Tartans.

jacksback said:

Good observation SHHS

I don't know where Harris plans on going to college, but he better get in the weight room.

I was not impressed with him at all!

If he really thinks his frame is going to get him a starting poition at the level he is sadly mistaken. A 4.4 250lb linebacker will break him into two pieces. He is not tough at all!!

Mike said:

Flag on Bluorca for unsportsmanlike conduct..... piling on Mike the Clone after the play.

Damn brother did you just smack me and my Bagpipers!Didn't expect much huh!

Talk about kicking me when I'm down. How dare you. That's brutal!!!!

Don't worry Blu I'm joking with you! Congrats you guys needed that win last night.

SaintB said:

Hey you guys, what game were you watching? There were 2 TD's called back not 5, penalties are not the refs fault. BP should be ashamed of the constant holding and late hits after the whistle. The refs called more penalties on SD than BP, the bottom line is BP got out coached! Just admit it and stop crying!!!

shhs said:

Baldwin park will not beat Covina..

Mcd will make sure of that..

I don't know what stud your referring too, but Harris got punked all night long and he's a poor defensive player.

It also funny how the program & Max Preps lists Harris as 5'10' 185. Harris is maybe 5'9 165 at best and he can't take a hit. He saw the sidelines last night after being hit by the BIG D

4th&Long said:

BP is good. They were physical and Harris is a stud. Barbone played hard. Coaches did an awesome job. The defense came to play. Probably one of the most exciting games over the weekend. San Dimas showed they can win a tough game againt a good opponent. If BP's coaches figure it out, they will beat Covina.

Dan said:

"What? What?
CO beat West Covina??

Now how did that happen??

CO You know!

Fumbles on your five yrd line & inside our five & a touchdown that was taken away from us
that shouldn't have been taken away as there was nobody near the qb to deflect the pass that the refs claim was deflected, it clearly rolled off his hand behind him as he attempted to throw.
I'll give it to your "D" as they played well but West Co shot themselves in the foot as they fumbled three straight times on their first three posessions, and those fumbles wern't caused by hits either, but a win is a win & C.Oak got the win.

bluorca said:

Amat/St. Francis

This was an awesome win for our Lancers! YOU MAKE US PROUD TEAM!!! And to add to this accomplishment, Amat was missing their starting RB, their starting offensive lineman, and 2 starting LBs. One of them was 1 of only 2 seniors starting on the normal defense! Amat (on crutches!) defeated the #1 team in the Western Division. AND THIS IS A DOWN YEAR! hahahaha! Look, as far as the Valley rankings go, I'm not going to choke on my popcorn if Amat is not #1 but I think it would be wrong to place any team higher than Amat. The only other team that could possible be #1 would be those pesky but admirable Spartans. Sure, Damien almost beat St. John Bosco but this was the first game of the season and we all know how screwed up things are during the first game. If you look around at other teams you will find that first games more than often do not usually showcase the talent nor ability a team actually has. Often, these games are riddled with penalties, starters that shouldnt be starting, etc. If Damien and SJB played today, I think SJB would murderize the Spartans. But all this aside, the reality is that Damien LOST to SJB and there is no way to determine how Amat would do againts SJB anyways. Damien does indeed have a good team but the fact is that Damien LOST to a Los Altos team that LOST to St. Francis and Diamond Ranch?!?!?! I dont see how there is any room for speculation here IF you stick to the facts. Another thing to consider is that the Amat/St. Francis game should never have went into overtime in the first place. Amat had them BEAT! It was only because of a St. Francis INT at their own 10 yrd line with regulation time running out that saved the Knights from an imminent game winning FG by the Lancers. One must ponder what the Amat/St. Francis score would have been if Amat was not missing 4 of their starters....

But all these other facts aside, I would rather see Amat #2 or #3 if the number of Amat haters increases because Amat is ranked #1 in the SGV.

To all those bloggers that said that Amat football is dead or not the best school to play at anymore, THANK YOU! You ALL made this victory even sweeter! May God forgive you all for your harsh but innocently misguided words. I already have.

Los Altos/Diamond Ranch...
You guys know how much I preach about strength of schedule but I never would have picked DR over LA. Did LA have some severe injuries or something? I'm forced to retract my original claim about LA winning league and their division. Los Altos is going to have a tough time in league. And there have been many who think that Los Altos could hang in the Pac-5 but after seeing Edison beat DR 35-6 and Servite beat DR 50-0, I dont think there will be anyone left to make or believe such a bold claim. ONLY NOW are many Non-Amat bloggers starting to realize what I'm talking about when I use the term "high caliber teams."

West Covina/Charter Oak...
I am guilty of underestimating CO...Congratulations to the Chargers for their upset win over the Bulldogs. WC was healthy for the most part right? I really do not know what to make of this Bulldog team anymore. I know they have talent but this loss to CO also forces me to dramatically change my high opinion of WC. I now believe that Glendora would probably beat WC and Damien would destroy them. It now also makes more sense to me why Mater Dei was subbing out their starters so often when they played WC. If Mater Dei left their starters in the entire game, well, ya'll know what would have happened...

Damien/Glendora...
There is nothing in this game that surprises me. I did not expect the Tartans to give Damien much competition. Maybe next year...

Other Games of Interest...

~Santa Margarita 17, Mater Dei 7 ---> Surprising to some but not Amat fans...We know that when any of the old Serra League teams play eachother (Amat,Loyola,Mater Dei, Servite, St. John Bosco), you can throw records and rankings right out of the school bus window. West Covina fans must be in awe of this Eagle team from the old Serra. I sure the hell would be...

~Servite 28, Orange Lutheran 21 ---> Lutheran was undefeated and ranked #3 by the LAT. WELCOME TO A REAL PAC-5 LEAGUE LUTHERAN! hahahaa!

~St. Paul vs. Loyola is TONIGHT!

~Crespi 15, Chaminade 7 (GREAT..Amat has to play another good team that is coming off a loss yet again...sigh.)

~SO Notre Dame 41, Alemany 7
~CC Canyon 41, Hart 25
~Mission Viejo 27, San Clemente 17
~Newport Harbor 21, Esperanza 13 (wow!)
~Norco 22, Santiago 14 (much closer than expected)

Everyone else beat everyone they were supposed to. I know...boring huh...There's no need to post their scores.

Congratulations to ALL SGV teams celebrating their victories today!!! Good luck to all next week!

randy said:

ayala got exactly what they deserved,...shut out, put out and thrown out....the battle of the sierra league doormats was settled 6-0, DBHS stopping the bulldogs on downs in the final minutes and securing their first league win since the 2003 season..... yeah, we're far from back but loaded with sophomores on that varsity team, we still have a few more glory days ahead of us, mark my words......and how about Diamond Ranch (who stole half the dbhs students when they opened), sticking it to Los Altos....WELL DONE PANTHERS!.....a win is a win baby (karma payback for the "win" against Damien)...especially league wins!---ouch, that had to hurt.... now, why isnt anyone firing off about rowlands thrashing of nogales?....still stinging from glendora huh?---another team who got reeled back down to earth a bit...and i'll finish with Amat,....HUGE GAME-----HUGE HEART----HUGE WIN......keep on rollin' baby....

shhs said:

Hey you guys

Cry me a river.. WHINNIE BABY.. Oh the refs were paid off. Right, you guys got your butts handed to YOU..

The only cheaters on the field were the BP players. Play the game without penalties and you might have a chance. Your team is in trouble now for league title.

Harris WHO???


Lancer '66 said:

Was that an exciting game at BA last night or what!! Aram was right there when D. Wells scored in overtime and says he was across the goal.
There are still too many mistakes at critical times. Penalties, interceptions etc. I have been at every game this year and other than the Rancho Cucamonga game Amat continues to "shoot themselves" in the foot. Their defense right now isn't quite good enough to absorb those mistakes. Those young men are growing up but they have a very tough schedule the rest of the way. BA plays Chaminade away next week which gave Crespi all they could handle. The following week is Homecoming with Crespi; All you Lancer Alums come to that game and support this team; and then their last 2 games away against Notre Dame(SO) and Loyola. It will be a struggle unless the "defense" is prepared properly and they play "smart". By the way who was that #66 who was playing late in last nights game. On passing downs he was all over the quarterback and he disrupted StF. running game a couple of times late in the game.
How about Mark Verti. His quarterback throws an interception late in the game deep in StF territory on what could have been the winning scoring drive and he greets the QB when he comes in to console him. That's a coach. And what about the decision to go for the 2pt conversion for the win in overtime. Probably 90% of the coaches in this valley would not have made that call at that time knowing what the reprocussions would have been if it failed. I don't think he cared what anyone thought except his players. This was an opportunity for those young men to believe in themselves and to control their own destiny and that one play they will never forget the rest of the year. Cudos to Mark Verti.

Amat may never win another game this year or they could win the rest of their games and go to CIF Playoffs but both the Players and the Coaches grew up a lot last night against a very fine St Francis Football team. You are starting to make Friday nights very exciting again. Thank you. Go Lancers!! I'm outta here.

Lancer '66

statisticalfacts said:

Hey you guys, The Truth(hurts), Bravetown and Jenny Craig::::::

The simple facts are as follows:
1. BP was out coached
2. SD had a better offensive and defensive plan
3. SD rushing yards = 269/36 carries/7.4722 per rush.
4. BP running yards = 183/48 carries/3.8125 per rush
5. Barbone only 12 carries 75 yards = 6.25 per rush
6. Harris 26 carries 114 or 98 yards as reported after game by statistician = 4.38 per rush at 114 yards or 3.76 per rush at 98 yards.
7. If Barbone carries 26 times wow, 162 yards...
8. SD moved the ball around to numerous backs because BP keying on Barbone. Great Coaching plan.
9. BP only has one player and one back. One player doesn't win games for you , TEAMS do!

ENOUGH SAID

NEXT!!

AHS said:

Hey Aram, What is with the Ayala misprint above under scores...."Ayalo"..is that some sort of prediction? As in Ayal'0'-10.. It sure sucks to be this bad after watching those coaches and kids work so hard. Hopin for an upset, out

Volek said:

Major props last night to GHS they are a tough group of kids. As for Damien, they showed why they are the #1 team in the valley. Chris Marine refuses to go down, Eschardies did his normal thing, and Mendrun spread it out for an unstoppable offense. I also want to compliment Mendrun for the way he acts on the field. Every time glendora made a nice play he gave their players a pat on the helmet or a high five, thats just unusual for a player of that caliber to be such a good kid. He is the real deal

Good luck to both teams the rest of the way

FreshmanDE said:

And yesterday, Monrovia gave La Canada an ass whoopin. Final score: 38-0.

I think that La Canada was mad because they didn't get any kick returns. But what do you expect when you have Sean Kelly as the kicker.

And Tyler Thompson returned with an impact. He got an interception on defense and took it to the house. Shawn Sparks also had an interception on defense also scoring a touchdown.

And i personally like La Canada's fake kickoff thing. I think its pretty funny. Their freshman did it to me.

Mike said:

DHS4LIFE Wo Wo Wo slow down there tiger!

If your "cordonator" whatever that is but I'm assuming you meant "coordinator" can't figure us out then gezz. Can you say #8 #8 #8 #8 #8 #8 #8 a thousand more times.

Yeah give him the game ball anyone who can sit down in the coaches room “La-Z-Boy� with a twelve pack of beer, some beer nuts and a big fat “Garcia Vega� all week and watch game video of my “bagpipers� and get credit for that win deserves it.

Hell sign me up I want that job!

Oh by the way Coaches at Damien you better check DHS4LIFE's academic eligibility with that grammar and spelling I bet he’s failing some English classes. I thought I would just mention that with this fine season your having. You wouldn’t want to throw it all away with some over zealous vine swinger exposing his academic faults in Aram’s jungle would ya?

Out! Van Smack!

CO Bro said:

Some thoughts....
Bishop Fans...I would like to know how you all feel about Vertis call for the 2 pt. conversion. I really would like to hear from those of you that wanted his head head a few weeks ago.

Damien...You guy's are for real! Big win last night congrats to all the players and staff. As of today you look to be the SGV's best hopes for a championship. I wish you luck the rest of the season.

Glendora...Big loss last night. But you already know that.

San Dimas...Awesome! Not many gave you a chance, but you proved them all wrong. Nico = STUD! Harris who?

Charter Oak...I am so freaking proud of you boys! I knew you would come around just in time for league. Lets keep playing like you did last night.

Los Altos...See you next week!

DHS4LIFE said:

I came on here tuesday n told everyone that they would see a beat down and glendoara embarrased, turns out i was right n me and my teammates destroyed them. 33-13 it sounds like #2 in valley was OVERRATED, they fell apart after half they shouldnt have even been on the field with us, they cant hang with us. And for the sierra league dbar and ayala are trash and have nothing at all, chino cant hang either and glendora as u all saw last night can't hang with the big dawgs so, the sierra league championship game is Thursday Novemebr 9th at Chino Hills High school Damien at CH. We are gonna expose them like we exposed glendora with all of their weaknesses and we will win. Getting back to last night's win i think the game ball should go to John Carroll damien's defensive cordonator who spend so much time with film and he made us ready for this game great job coach!!!!!!!!!!!

GT FAN said:

Response to MIKE:
Your assessment of the the GT & Damien game was exactly the simple response we all would expected you to sound off on.

On all fronts Damien was the better team last night (give credit where credit is due) Congrats to Morrison and his program.

As for GT...you fought hard and stayed with it as you were coached. In the weeks ahead we are sure that coach P and Stryker & company will make the necessary "adjustments" (ie..O & D & special teams (long snapper???). The season is far from over and I'm confident that we will regain our competitive edge.

Mike said:

Hey Ex-Falcon

Congrats to you guys!Out of all the teams my "Bagpipers" have played it is you guys that stick out in my mind as some of the toughest, grittiest, "let's bust our asses and at least try" bunch of kids.

I hope those big men you have up front who I admired that night are carrying their heads high.

Again props to you guys your a scrappy bunch!

Out!

Mike the Clone

EX-FLACON said:

duarte high will not lose another game, let try to make some noise in the playoffs.

afootballfan said:

WHAT A GAME BONITA!!AGAIN AGUAYO 2 TOUCHDOWNS! GIVE SOME RECOGNITION ARAM!TO THIS KID...
NO ONE THOUGHT YOU WIN...
GO FOR IT ALL....

Betty B said:

What? What?
CO beat West Covina??

Now how did that happen??

CO You know!

Big time fan of the GHS varsity & jv players said:

There was no secrete to what Glendora had to do last night, ONE, keep the explosive offense of Damien off the field by running the ball, TWO defend the pass. Neither one was done with much effectiveness hence Damien was victorious. Coaches’ coach and Players play, hopefully the coaching staff at GHS will begin damage control this morning by taking accountability for the debacle that occurred last night, game film does not lie. Sitting in the stands one could sense that the other side was ready to play football, there was no panic from the coaching staff and there was more passion, excitement from the Spartan players enough though GHS drew first blood. Props go out to the Damien coaching staff for making the important half time adjustments that allowed them to dominate a poorly non-motivated group of very talented GHS players. You all know the saying: If it isn’t broke don’t mess with it, well this team needs to be repaired ASAP otherwise the GHS coaching staff will find itself week 11 sitting in the standing watching a playoff game as oppose to being on the side lines coaching in one.

Big time fan of the GHS varsity & jv players

hey you guys said:

how do five td get called back without a the refs. calling the penalty out. san dimas you guys should be ashamed of your selves winning with help from the refs. it should have been 36 to 14 half time, but when ever bp had a big play it got called back for some lame pointless penalty.

Kit Carson said:

Glendora has a good football team. They're this close to being very good. All they need now is- a passer...a receiver...a kicker...some pass blockers...and...oh yeah, a defense.

prep observer said:

WHERE IS JENNY GRAIG? SLOW DIMAS got it done. I told you BP has no heart because they are coached by a bunch of non hackers. They have 1 great player and a bunch of average ones. Please lose one more league game so I can watch you get smashed by Oaks Christian. HA HA HA HA. You deserve this because you talk too much smack.

john said:

News flash, the prom queen is not pregnant, as I said earlier Amat could beat any team in the valley even in a down year. Lets recap recent weeks.

Los Altos beats Damien
Glendora beats Rowland
Damien beats Glendora

Amat beats Rancho
Rancho beats W. Covina
Rancho beats South Hills

St. Francis beats Los Altos
Amat beats St. Francis

Diamond Ranch beats Los Altos


I can not wait for this weeks rankings, this should be interesting. As you can see strength of schedule should stand for something. Amat and Diamond ranch have played the toughest schedules so far this year and have received no love.

Interesting week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr.Corona DHS Dad said:

Toughest day in a long time! Best day in a long time!

I would like to publicly thank all the Damien parents who took the time and showed their love and support to me and my family. Your kind words touched me deeply. They reminded me why Damien kids are the best, they come from great families! Walking into the 5th Quarter tonight was more nerve racking than having my 1st baby.I know I paced more outside tonight before going in than I did 17 years ago. I was nervous and actually a little scared, I must admit. These blogs have a cruel nature to them at times and finding your proper footing is rarely painless. I know at times I may sound overly opinated but the truth is I always try and help kids succeed. I always try and convince a kid of ALL his potential, sometimes even when they can not see it themselves. I try and tell parents why their kids are special and how much I admire their potentail or effort. Being a critic is easy, believing in kids is easier and much more rewarding.EVERYONE was so kind and welcoming! Like seeing old friends. I am forever grateful and humbled by your generosity. Thank you.


Some people are good with numbers, I "see" Football really well. Sometimes that's annoying but rarely is it being boastful or mean. It just is. I just "see" the game, "see" the tweaks, or "see" the fixes. Mostly I "see" potential.

The Game:
It was fun to see a game were everything came together for so many people on so many levels. I really believe Damien Football matured tonight and took a big step forward. Coaches made adjustments,gathered players and coached with confidence, players stayed focused. Head Coach Scott Morrison showed his players tonight at "midfield" and during the game what happens when someone gets in your face and challenges you. You back them down and shut them up! Punch a bully in the mouth and ask him if he wants more! They start it you finish it! 'nuff said!

The defense was major, major major. Running a four man front and putting Rabe(best game this year) in 3 technique, BRILLIANT! This kid is a load next to Luiten. Justin Luiten is as raw a talent (6'4 1/2" 285 lbs and can run) as I have ever seen, EVER! Tremendous upside! This is why Div I athletes redshirt.

Shuffling "Bigs" and letting them get rough in the middle let Glendora KNOW it was in for a rough and sleepless night!
Putting the LBs(Gomez, Hile, Stokes) back and letting them come up and bring the "wood" is what a LB lives for! (Big hits = momentum changers) "Sustained pressure" is what Defense is all about. Bend don't break, adjust, fix and dominate! They score , make them pay! Offense may win you games but Defense wins you Championships! Walsh as always was solid,(Does this kid ever smile?)talk about a Senior Quest! Keep doing what your doing big man!

Offense was the Chris Marine show!(again) This kid is (2) game balls shy and counting! (Season changing effort!) That's what happens when a senior sees the clock ticking on his HS career and decides, "I ain't going out like THAT!" and let's it ALL come out! In the words of Earth, Wind and Fire,"It's a beautiful thing! Don't you agree!!" Special props to the O-line, Smitty (hardest working big man in the Valley) DeLaTorre, Murrillo,Pittman(work, work work, work, work-ALL DAY, EVERY DAY!)Don't know the other names but everyone played like Coach Bubba preaches and teaches. Get Mean, get tough and get after it!

Jr.Kicker Dijon Miller is just sick! The velocity he gets off the tee is DIV I caliber! 53 yard field goal means Damien can score 3 ways, Passing, Running and Special Teams! Big catches by Brian Lee( TD iced the game, and you owe me 6 more) and Taylor Herrera (showed that stretching the field, opens everything up!)This kid is s.p.e.c.i.a.l. mark it down! Pertusati ("insane" 1 hander called back) Damien's just begining to jell, and that's scary! But alot of hard work is still to be done and tonight you took the first step. Pre-game prediction 42-10 game final 33-13. No one's perfect!

Best call of the night?

Calling Justin Luiten's Dad and hearing the swelling of pride in his voice knowing his son's hard work is paying off.

SGV Athlete said:

"S", stop whining...the fact of the matter is that the BA vs. SF game was a straight up dog fight. both teams came to play and both teams took care of what was needed to on defense. I told ya'll before that this would be a close one. i would have never predicted that it would be an OT game, but it does not at all surprise me. Coach Verti made some bad play calls, but some of the players made bad desicions as well. And when it came down to it, Verti had the gonads to go for the win and end the game right then and there, no way was he going to send out his offense or his rightfully tired defense back on the field for another round of OT.

Golden Knights, GREAT GAME and good luck the rest of the season.

LANCERS, GREAT JOB and continue to work hard next week vs. Chaminade

Jeff said:

Bluorca,
Glad to have posted this article. I am a huge browns fan, but its pretty amazing for 3 players from the same HS who played at the same time to be playing for one team all on the defensive side of the ball. By the way, I am the Jeff who does the Voice over for the game of the week, so be sure to tell your friends to watch every week. I was also proud of Damien, my alma mater for knocking off Glendora.

Aram said:

Guys, chill out on the namecalling and personal attacks against each other.
Also, some of you may not agree with things guys like Mike the Clone say, but he's allowed his opinion like everyone else and is backing up his "takes" with reasoning. If you disagree, feel free to say so and say why. But don't bash people for giving their opinions, even if it's something you don't agree with.

"Mike the clown"
You are a sissy and a cry baby.
You wrote too much for not saying a thing.
Thanks for wasting our time.
What makes you the judge?
No cares about what you write but you, you uneducated idiot.

Mike said:

Greetings!

I’m Mike the Clone and you are Not!

Tonight I come to you with a heavy heart. Right out of the blocks, Damien you are a good team. You are multi-dimensional your coaches adjust on the spot and have a plan. You have some talented guys on that squad and being a “REALIST� I don’t think you have recruited. The coaching staff and the kids on and off the field have just got it all together and you will roll through the rest of the Sierra League. Congratulations to you guys for beating my “Bagpipers�

With that said, you Glendora kids who know me but not as “Mike the Clone� such as Zach Butler, Todd Bruno,Garrett Crook,Brandon Popineau, Arthur“Artie�Villa, you guys keep your heads up. Not once tonight did I see you guys ever quit you fought till the end just like I know you all to do.

To all you @#B’s that blasted me all this past week about my rants with this coaching staff you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Your actually satisfied with what you saw tonight?

You’re actually willing to accept what was going on down there with the play calling. Such as a trick play with less than three yards to go? For a turnover on downs?

Yeah you know who you are and especially GT FAN, and you know I’m singling you out because of the kids I mentioned above deserve better from people like you “Little Miss�

Here’s your quote:

“We are proud of our program and have prided ourselves with "Being the Best" whether we are 5&0 or 0&5. Obviously you are far from being a true Tartan.�

Ask those kids above if they would accept being 0-5.

Well you listen to me you spineless wimp GT FAN you don’t know what you’re talking about. Your one of those button wearing “Look at my son on my button� Rah Rah Moms. If your satisfied with what you saw tonight with the talent we have on this team, then you you deserve to be a loser, frankly my kids deserve better than people like you. Settling for being mediocre is that what you really want? I bet your kid doesn’t excel in the classroom either. (Refer to my French fryer reference in earlier threads)

At least your boy finally decided who his quarterback was…well yeah in the second half…and then you expect this kid who you have already screwed up in his head if he makes a mistake he’s gonna be replaced and then come in and take us to the promise land against Damien. When was the last team you saw swapping QB's every other series.

Do you think your offense is going to be in any kind of rhythm? You freaking moron………….obviously you didn’t play the game.
I was a grunt, a hawg, a mawler, a dirt lover and did it for a lot of years and more than four. I wanted one guy back there calling reps and one only unless #1 got hurt.

But I know your willing to accept that GT FAN aren’t you

I have come to terms with Coach P. I have given him the pass three years the first one doesn’t count. But as it stands now my "bagpipers" will always be a first or second place team with a first round and out appearance.I guess that ok for some of you. But these kids deserve better.

I guess being the competitor that I am, I guess I expect more out of the people I surround myself with and when I see people not attaining their full potential at other people expense it pisses me off.

You satisfied GT FAN reading people like "sh" and "CO Bro" talk smack about us? I'm not but "YOUR" coach has finally given me no choice but to suck it up and take it and yeah you heard me "Pasqie" is a good coach but not a great coach, Great coaches surround themselves with great people. Personally I think "Billy Stryc" is the only one worth keeping.

"Bagpipers" CHIN UP!

GOOD NIGHT NOW!!!!!


to S said:

if that were possible someone should really think about sending in the damien vs bosco game. the proof is literally in the tape of that game. best of luck to bosco and all but they are ranked top 10 in the state while damien is stuck w/ no respect. damien played one hell of a game tonight against glendora. 1 vs 2 in the area and damien established why they are the best in the area. the only time glendora moved the ball was on big plays or mistakes by damien. the defense labeled a question mark was able to hold one of the best come back teams in the valley to 13 points, mendrun is still a key part of the offense, but chris marine is becoming a big part of the offense as well. if this were madden, he would have the break tackle of LT or reggie bush, countless times where u think he was down in the backfield, break the takle and run for 10-15 like nothing. chino hills and the sierra league have a new powerhouse to worry about, DAMIENS LEGIT!

Clint Smith said:

Aram, Don't forget the san dimas shocker! It looks like heggins Failed to teach the boys for the next test! F, Harris held under 100yds!
Saints out hit BP!

S said:

People look at the SF BA score. That is the officiating score if the game was anywhere else except at BA the score would have been 28-27 St. Francis winning. The refs were horrible!!! The 2-point conversion was no good. Looking at pictures and watching the film he was out of bounds and then dove into the endzone. Good hard battle for both teams and the Refs played a traditional BA game. Good Luck to both teams and if anyone has the same ref that reffed tonight dont expect any good calls. And i have a question. Can tape be sent in to CIF and CIF takes a look and changes the call? Is that allowed?

bluorca said:

EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THIS!

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1160728705111540.xml&coll=2

This article is the epitomy of excellence at the highest level. I can think of no greater example of being your brother's keeper both on and off the field. I am sooooo proud of them!!!

The article is two pages long so make sure you scroll down the entire first page before clicking on the next page tab.

Thanks JEFF for originally posting this! I owe you an In-n-Out Double Double...animal style. I hope you dont mind if I reposted it on the latest entry. I think its a great article and a must read for ALL football fans from the SGV.

Big Reg said:

Way to go Charter Oak Chargers

AJ Pasalo & MJ are the real deal

CO Bro said:

Welcome back to earth tartans!

amatfan said:

WOW! all close games. good job to all of you guys out there, played your hearts out.

sh said:

come on glendora i can't hear you,oh there you are you got owned,los altos the question is now are you going to make the playoffs come to think about it glendora are you going to make the playoffs,keep talking your smack.

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