POSTGAME: Talk your smack or cry me a river ...

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They're back!

CO downed Bo-Hi and it's looking like a two-horse race in the Miramonte with D-Ranch.

Thursday's results
Glendora 33, Chino 10 (I know, I was there. Glendora played possessed and Chino isn't Chino anymore)
Duarte 56, La Puente 0 (It's time for a temporary, one year only, league change for the Falcs. Mission Valley maybe?)
Covina 55, Baldwin Park 25 (The Colts are absolutely rolling now. McDonough is flat unreal.)
Crespi 35, Bishop Amat 14 (I got a halftime score for this and was pumped when I heard 14-14)
Los Altos 38, Wilson 14 (Wildcats are done; LA is still hanging by a thread)
Charter Oak 17, Bonita 14 (CO defense is starting to remind me of the 2000 Ravens)
Arroyo 27, Rosemead 23 (Fire Singiser!)
South El Monte 27, Mountain View 7 (The Eagles are starting to roll)
Rowland 52, Walnut 20 (I want to remind you all that Rowland is 7-1 and the only loss was to Glendora by a point)
South Hills 23, West Covina 3 (Don't look at the record. Just know that SH is very good)
Damien 35, Diamond Bar 3 (Bring on Chino Hills)
Gabrielino 21, El Monte 15 (El Monte always does this)
Sierra Vista 12, Gladstone 0 (SV hadn't been playing well on defense until tonight)
San Dimas 68, Ganesha 0 (Can't split SD, NView or BP right now ... they're all taking turns on each other.)
Saturday's game
Pomona 34, Northview 10 (hurts man)

Aram's Baldwin Park vs. Covina thoughts: First of all, I want to say how impressed I was by the fan support Covina had. It might have been because of homecoming, but I hope that's the type of crowd the Colts always get. To the game - it went just how I thought it would. Covina's offense wasn't stopped and it was going to take BP trading points to stay in it. Having said that, I was impressed with BP's QB Angel Acevedo. He has some speed when he runs and he throws pretty well. I think that Coach Heggins has done a good job there. From where BP was to where they are now is nite and day (Al B. Sure). Anyway, what can you say about Covina? The offense is rolling again. Mike McDonough is a monster. This guy really just can't be stopped. The Colts run the ball with him or Tre McNair or they throw it deep. There was no in between last nite. The funny thing is that whatever they wanted to do, they did. If they threw deep, then Brad Gomez was wide open. If they ran McD or McNair, then they got yards. Like Heggins said "Pick your poison." As I've said before, outside of Amat or Damien, the rest of the SGV teams are dreaming if they think that Covina wouldn't give them a game. Players like McD, McNair or Jamal James would play for anyone else in the Valley, no question. Everyone I've spoken to already has Covina penciled in to be playing Oaks Christian in the finals. I wish I knew what the rest of the division looked like. It seems to me that if Covina is the No. 2 seed, they'll probably have to play Oak Park to get there. I wouldn't go too crazy on postseason projections for the Colts yet because the rest of the division is a question mark that nobody can answer. Covina is very, very good, though.


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Damien Dad said:

Thanks Kit, that's probably it.

There's 25 players that must fall in that catergory. Let's see , do you play the second string when you're down by 25 with 4 minutes to go or when you're up by 25 with 4 minutes to go in the game? Remember Kit it's JV football and shut outs at the JV level mean what exactly? Losing or winning by 17 as opposed to 24 means what exactly?

Kit, we were up 21-3 by half and won 28-3 or 35-3. You have 65 players on the JV team, 4 Jrs. start on the Varsity this year and 1 Soph. Last year's Varsity started 4 underclasmen, do the math.

I must have missed that part of coaching after 20 years. Maybe you missed the most recent blogs when people praised "Varsity" coaches for playing the second and third strings by half of blowouts.(Covina vs. San Dimas) (Damien vs. Diamond Bar, ect. ect.)

And I don't think you read it clearly he the "2nd" string MLB, not 3rd or 4th, and yes he plays and starts for the scout team at MLB and makes plays. He's a 15y.o Soph, 5'8" 195lbs and should top out at 6',rock solid muscle and can run. He plays on the kickoff team because a fellow player switched with him because "he" plays DT and FB. I think it was just a classy act of kindness on Austin's part and appreciated by my son. Again my "point" was that the coaches told him he was going to play, called him over in the second quarter to go in, and told the team that everyone was going to be rotated.

Invite you to a game this Thurs at Damien, maybe you'll have a different point of view. Not really looking for a response as much as venting. Clearly my bad, just broke my heart to see him trust his coaches and see the affect it had on him "that" night.

But I thank you for your perspective, most bloggers understood my point/pain and did not respond fot two days! But you did. In the end, I'll find comfort knowing Justin Luiten (6'4" 285) and Brad Walsh (6'6"245) never played more than a couple of plays, at the end of games, their Junior years and are now "STARTING" as part of the "BEST" Defensive Line in SGV bar none. Both probably will make 1st team ALL League by season's end, so what do I have to complain about. I heard alot of BS about Luiten not playing last year and said it was BS that he wasn't playing more at the beginning this year but look at him now-HE DOMINATES! God only knows the ass whoppings bruises he must leave on those that have to deal with him in league. ( There is NO substitute for playing time.)

If you read my most recent blog about Salesian Sr. Rafael Recendez who died after weightlifting on Tues. I don't have much to complain about. My brother is the defensive coor. there so I know 1st hand their pain.

Promise not the vent like that again. It was just my parental fustration that got me going. Is he good enough to start? Maybe only playing time works that out. I know he's big enough and strong enough and fast enough to play OG, DT, MLB,WSLB, SSLB, FB.

End of my rant and buried my fustration enjoying Luiten kick the tar out of Chino and seeing his family enjoy his success. By the way you coming to the Pizza Blast! Hope we have a big turnout!

Kit (from) Carson said:

Damien Dad,

Am I reading your blog correctly? Your kid doesn't get a lot of playing time, and you blame his coaches? Maybe...he's not as good as you think.

Damien Dad said:

One last thing before I hear the stupid your kid doesn't play coward statements. I've been at Damien four years, not two like the "nut" who always has something "stupid" to say!

If it wasn't for Coach Morrison sending Coach Fed down to JV, and he's a very skilled, solid defensive mind, this JV team learns next to nothing on defense. Yesterday they left the starting line up in the whole game. Ask youself does Zac deserve 6 total plays in 6 games! When he's the second string MLB and plays scout LB all the time! After that BS with the freshmen team, and the blog drama this year he's played no more than 14 plays in 14 games over two years, that's just stupid.


They should have hired Coach Jim Duffy, yes Duffy's dad. He coached for years at the JAA level with West Covina and I've seen his players across the SGV landscape and they're ALL fundamentaly sound, aggressive and hit like a ton. Ralph Diaz from Covina's a monster, Dominique Austin is Div I and Erik Valdivia Special teams baller play for Bishop Amat, Alex Thompson, Ryan Farrar played for Damien last year all learned the game with Jim Duffy as their coach. And I bet they're others on other SGV teams I don't know about past and present. Why he hasn't coached at Damien is a mystery. Maybe he's too qualified. God knows he's better than what they have now.

Same with Jake Cannon's dad who has years of high school coaching experience and played Big Ten basketball, coached most of last year's graduating class in travel basketball, coached at Chino last year and gets turned down to coach at Damien because he has kids on the team! (don't even go there!).

Maybe it's their character or some other BS that keeps these men from being hired as coaches. Doubt it they both work for the D.A.'s Office.

I've seen games where we're being blown out by 29(Glendora) and the starters stay in, we're beating people by 30, (Diamond Bar, Chino) and the starters stay in, it's a close game and the starters stay in! Against Ayala and Diamond Bar they put everyone in on defense with two minutes and both teams run one back for a TD (50 and 60 yrds.)and the starters go back in -that's just stupid! JV is were people get reps to prepare for Varsity. Just look at what happened when they gave the second string QB a chance at DB, he looked for real. Too bad he got hurt, but he'll be back and start again. Do we even have a second string offense other than at QB?

When a coach tells you you're practicing well and are going to play you trust that your coach is telling you the truth. When the starting MLB gets hurt and you practice all week with the starters and make tackle after tackle @ practice you expect to play more than two downs in the game. When you ask a coach if there is anything more to you can do to play, you trust your coach. When a coach tells you in the second quarter to get ready cuz you going in and you never do, do you still trust the coach? Coach Eric calls him with 30 seconds left in the game to go in on defense and Damien has the ball on offense and the clock runs out-that's just stupid.

I'm not bagging and the kids,(and in fact have made many,many comments to praise players for their play and mentioned those I thought should go to Varsity) or bitching to bitch (more fustrated than anything), but fair is fair and this not. This is just stupid.

Remember I'm saying this, not my kids. Leave it there for those that just HAVE to say something stupid.


Damien Dad said:

Okay bleeder- It took you a long time to ask "3" questions but I see only one. Check back over the blogs and see I already answered the question before. D-Coor. Fair from Los Altos schemed a great game, Los Altos played a great game and Mendrun was coming off the bruise ribs. No excuses, he played the best he could and lost at the goal line. What's to argue. Every great player, or very good player gets "shut down" if that's a word you find comfort in. If you would have seen the SJB game before he was hurt he torched them all night with tough accurate throws. Hey his TEAM is winning, RB Chris Marine has 10 TDs in 3 games and the Damien Offense is becoming more balanced. What's the problem. It's a non issue. Look at Los Altos' 4 game slide, case closed. Damien plays them now Damien rocks them 42-21, hell what would Damien do to Walnut? They are both different teams now, don't you think?

Remember Damien now has a solid running game, is deadly in the redzone, has made 53 and 50 field goals, runs a four man front and has dismantled Claremont(smoked),CO(worked), Glendora (out classed),Ayala (TCB), Diamond Bar(played everyone) and plays Chino tonight, so we'll see. One game at a time, plus Damien doesn't have the grades, suspension or character issues that other valley schools seem to have.

Is Mendrun the best QB in the Valley? Haven't seen Bonita's Chavez so couldn't say. But I seen Mc D last night and he reminds me of Wilson great Ron Cuccia only stronger and plays a wicked LB. Plus Ron Cuccia had Steve Martinez (Wyoming) and a better defense. Is Michael Vick better than Tom Brady, Is Donavan Mc Nabb better than Drew Brees who knows? I've said it before "Systems, systems, systems make or break players" Mendrun in a West Coast Offense and it fireworks city. First he's a pure passer, great arm strenght, is a leader and is he better than Casteneda? Who knows, Who cares? Different teams different responsibilities. I'm a big Casteneda fan, big Mendrun fan and former sloppy QB myself so unless you played QB what would you know unless you've run a squad?

You going to the Pizza Blast?

But this arguement is what game 4 old? Nice try bleeder but let's work on supporting Amat against ND. My prediction is Amat 28- ND 32 close game, why because I hate to be a defeatist! Love what Verti is trying to do, know Coach Canales and Coach Spooner are getting players ready for Varsity, so there.

If Damien ever hired solid coaches at the Freshmen, JV level they'd have a dynasty. And no that doesn't mean me "NUT" case so let THAT go.

bleedsdblungold said:

So much to comment on and no one honest enough to listen, green hacks out there damien is good football team and deserves a great deal of credit, nice to see them winning and making valley teams look strong.

But you still need to answer the 76 yds against Los Al shotty performance please answer direct question stop playing dodge.

As far as mendrun being better than bishops Qber of course he is thats not even a discussion issue here.

There are at least 5 great Qbers in valley who could put bishop over the top this year, and who are head and shoulders above bishops kid, we all know this. Not attacking the player just easy to see if were being football honest.

My question is why say this thats like saying brady quin better than west virginias Qber, of coure its a no brainer, now is Mendrun better than anyone else Qber, thats the question here.


In big games how has he faired, only game ive seen him in is the Los Altos game, and he looked like a reciever playing Qber, fast but no accuracy and many passes overthrown, and has a tough time throwing to his right or at least back then he did, clearly the Los Al kid way better that night.

Have seen the bishop kid twice not in the same league as the others, seen most of the Qbers in preseason top 6 and still hard to honestly decide whos best, Mendrun,Castanada,Mc Donough, now my question is at Qber, not multy position. That includes, please accuracy, timing, speed of delivery and of course who we have played against
We cannot throw out these important aspects of playing the position, and we need to include strength of schedule..

Does covina's Qber rack up more yards than mendrun if he played the same schedule as mendrun, i really dont think so now my opinion is only speculation but so is everyone else's, castanada has 18 tds against who damien st francis, and teams like that and thats in the air, why is throwing the ball so important because thats what the position is coached to do.

It is also my opinion that mendrun castanada or chase or even corillo for that matter would have far greater numbers than mc donough in that league and in that schedule, and also would be able to play both ways and be all leaguers at both positions.

Its kind of disrespectful to these schools and the players for adults to not aknowledge the strength of schedule and how tough it is to play against tough defenses week in and out, all these Qbers are good atheletes but I know somekids numbers would go way down if thier schedule were beefed up and some kids numbers would go way up if they had an easier schedule.

Thats why the daily news is still ahead of us here at least they have a small school section and a large school section.

WRITE BACK IF YOU'D LIKE DAMIEN GUY OR ANYONE ELSE, but please answer the QUESTIONS HERE.

FANatic said:

FANatic is in the house!

Aram,

A lot of "anti-Tartan" posters on this blog don't realize Glendora has had to "re-build" the team after losing so many outstanding seniors/starters from last years team. Even with a re-building year, the Tartans have posted a impressive record against a very difficult schedule.

Aram, out of curiosity, do you know of any other Sierra league team or any league team for that matter, that had lost, as you put it for Glendora, their top passer, top receiver, top tackler, top rusher, etc.. and still post an impressive record with a difficult schedule?

Please enlighten us oh mighty one!

FANatic has left the Blog!

d1b said:

lets talk about bishop amats spectacular winning season their having........................o wait

Damien Fan said:

Bleeder-

Make "3" concise points. I'll answer them. Just "3" without the name calling or non sense. Wasn't in the "flunkie" mess so don't go there.

You "in" for the "Season Ending Pizza Blast!"?

Might do well for your disposition. Anyway would like to get it started and Amat is always welcomed when football's on the table. Think you can be civil enough to attend without Mike having to feel he needs a Police "escort" to come down from those hills?

Don't know Mike and have had my own "run ins" with him but it'll be a good way of showing the kids the parents/alumni know how to act like adults. God knows this blog wouldn't illustrate that to them!

Remember just "3".


bleedsblungold said:

Where are you Damien fan oh where have you gone to, maybe another blog, still waiting for response from you to my earlier points, oh well I guess your just like Mike the Clown making crazy statements and then fading away and waiting for someone to rescue you.

Hey everyone im IKE the DRONE and your not.

Just my opinion but all little league baseball players coaches are Flunkies.

what a joke both mike the clone and you should get together, no fact hacks.

Verti Fan said:

Just wondering...

Let's put the past in it's proper perspective.

How many games would any SGV team win that they lost this year in a rematch?

Amat- would you beat anyone of the teams that beat you this year? Carson, Valencia, Crespi, Hart

Los Altos-would you beat anyone of the teams that beat you this year?

Glendora, Bonita, Charter Oak, San Dimas?

Now does anyone think that Los Altos could beat Damien now? NO
Anyone doubt that Damien could probably beat SJB in a rematch? NO
Could Charter Oak, Glendora, Claremont beat Damien in a rematch? NO

I know Rowland and Covina sure believe Glendora got lucky and would welcome a rematch.

Hey Bleeder- WHO"S #1 (Hint : Their helmets are the same shade as you. Green ..as in green with envy!)

John- Carrillo better than Mendrun? No offense to the X-man but, Mendrun on Amat's team changes everything for your team. Mendrun on Glendora's team and well ...you get my point. Mendrun, throws a better deep pass, better arm strenght, throws a nasty fade (since freshmen year), runs better and is a undeniable team learder. No platooning or QB controversy at DHS.
Case closed. Don't be a hater. Anyone see the SJB game and still say Mendrun isn't Top 5 is suspect. Better yet rank the top ten QB's and see.

CT- Film doesn't lie. Good luck against Notre Dame. I hear they're a monster team. Maybe Amat steps up and becomes a giant killer. Remember if you beat Notre Dame, Amat is #1 in SGV ..again! wow!

As far a "experimenting" in the middle of a 3 game league...that's total nonsense! Remember Amat has alot of injuries, has only one "Austin" type player on the team and well...never mind it'll fall on deaf ears. Better yet name another Div I prospect on Amat's squad. I don't see 3!

Joe Amat said:


MATMTWTBAG &
LancerBlueandGold,

We've seen too much of this trend at amat. It permeates the athleic department. Sit behind the girls BB bench sometime - even their coach swears like a sailor. But his girls play and he's got some connections so they look the other way. I don't think that Kendrena (the last baseball coach) or Lokar (the previous basketball coach were that way, but the school lost them. Lokar even fired an assistant that apparently was a really good friend because he couldn't stop coaching the kids in an intimidating manner.

LUVTHISGAME said:

We will see how interested coach Verti is in the future of this team, this Friday. With ALL of the injuries and absent players this week, will he play ALL of the second string and get a feel for what he has to look forward to, or will he keep them on the sidelines for emotional support? I can hear the excuses now, "It was ND's homecoming and we had to make a statement."Give me a break.

The skill positions especially, with most juniors in those positions seeing limited time thus far. We know we will have a talented backfield at RB and FB. What about QB? Still haven't seen either of those guys. Is he just going to look past these two next year like they never existed, and then go with a junior or sophmore? Is that the right thing to do? Shouldn't they both get the same consideration this years QB got? Its their job to lose, right.What happened to that Senior priveledge he talked about being so important earlier in the year? I guess it will be different. We'll see. Same with the WR position, barely a handful have played, even with all the injuries and demotions this season. It is just wrong on every level.

Defensively, we better get a good look at the soon to be starting LBs. They are going to anchor the D next year, especially in our current D scheme. Our DBs are in good shape, they just need a set of ear plugs with all the F Bombs and whatnot they hear on a daily basis.

It all starts with our hogs in the trenches, they need to be coached up and on a serious and intense offseason program, so we can have mutiple Austin's on the field.

MATMTWTBAG said:

LancerBlueandGold,

I too have witnessed the profanity coming from the coaches as far back as summer and passing league. There was our indicator there that this staff was not going to "COACH" but intimidate their players to understand their philosophy. That kind of coaching worked in the old days, but in todays day and age where kids are protected moreso by the law, a kid gets turned off by that kind of treatment and much more will refuse to listen to you because at that age they do not like to be embarrassed and will turn on you...Most teens this age will tune you out if you show them up.....nowadays a lot is done thru constructive dialog between coach and player...dont get me wrong when all has been explained and someone screws up due to lack of paying attention etc., then that is the time to repremand the player, the bench to sit for a couple of plays, then back out there...this cussing and swearing BS is not working....As a coach you have to get in your kids heads and sell your program to them. It is sad to see our bench have no action and to also see those so called SCOUT players get their a$$es kicked in practice just to make the starters feel good about their play....Altho I like to say I have seen Scout player lay the wood to some of these starters.....even players that are not considered Scout players are sitting and in practice look outstanding...then there is the "were going to get you in the game" lie they tell the scout and backup players...game is out of reach for us and we are still going with the starters til the end.....it makes no sense other than you dont want the score run up on you....who cares you are beat already....In a close game I see this starters only...In a lopsided losing game two things, you get to look at your bench talent and you rest your starters for the next game..

VAN EARL SMACK said:

Hey Da Bears & Tommy T ....here's a bit of flash for you....

With all the hype surrounding certain players, i.e. pictures, articles, blogs.....we still never hear anything about the Great Defense of Rowland. Norys has been a tremendous leader for this team, yet where are his props! This is why he will recieve a College Scholarship for Football, because he is a great player. Also, a proven Team Player. I don't know him personally, but I watch him play, and being a coach for many years, I know talent when I see it.

Next, it's not my style to rag on a kid, and I won't...but P Chase is like a Deion Sanders Clone...he is all show boat but is afraid to hit. He is a mediocre QB at best...but, he has led Rowland to a winning record and that's what counts. Rene could play college if he got his attitude adjusted and decided it was time to grow up and be responsible. I have never seen a kid run as hard as he does. He hits the defender harder then the defender hits him. he is a very storng kid. I could see him playing in Junior College and then maybe something from there.

The Coaching needs to improve. Let's face it, my 5 year-old could have coached that game against Walnut. I can't believe Walnut beat Bonita. Rene ran all over the field. Walnut was small and was really never in the game.

Wilson will be a test, and West Co is next. But, Rowland cannot overlook Wilson. They need to be ready and that is up to Snyder & Co. Message to the Offensive Coach....Be ready to surprise the Wilson secondary. Everyone knows your a running Team....but mix it up. Be creative. Again, my 5 year old can stand on the sideline and call in the play..."Uh. let's give it to Rene up the middle, then call a no-huddle...repeat first play"

That's it for now, I will be rooting for Rowland as well....I am a fan of football and look forward to a Rowland Win. Hope you enjoyed your Halloween....you never know, I may have been lirking in your neighborhood.......Van Earl is Out!

lancerblueandgold said:

MATMTWTBAG-you have so eloquently put the TRUTH in your last statement. I agree whole heartedly!

The Varsity coaching staff @ Amat doesn't have adequate leadership through Verti. Verti has allowed coaches to use profane language on the field since day one, although he himself uses colorful words to depict profane language, but doesn't use profanity. From his choice to abstain from the use of profane language he feels strongly about this. So, why isn't he making it known to his staff members, especially the F-word swearing defensive coordinator that it is not acceptable under his leadership?

This should be a simple item that requires simple correction. Why can't Verti deal with that? There are so many other small items that he has not dealt with that it is not surprising that he cannot or does not know how to deal with the much larger issues. I agree with another blogger that indicated he knew the job would be tough when he took it. Let's not forget he was former player and is an alum of Amat.

Verti would have been in a much better position at this point if he had taken help from experienced staff people. He would have written his ticket. He would be in a position to make history. He has so much talent on the sidelines that sit and rots each day, each game! He has dragged these kids through the mud, placing blame on them for his and his staff's mistakes. It is sad that a grown man who has been given the gift of molding young men to possibly play at the next level does not have sense enough to get to know the players he has and their abilities. Had he been able to do this then he would be considered a winner, a hero, the man without the cape who rushed in as a novice and saved the Amat football program. It is sad that Verti is so one-dimensional and so unsavvy that he has led this football team, program and players down losers lane for no reason other than he "does not think" this player is a this or cannot do that. It is a sad commentary.

MATMTWTBAG said:

I too am tired of the "we are young" /" We are getting better" / "We are banged up" excuse. That is a band aid of an excuse for this teams demise this year. We have the talent right now but like I said earlier our coaches are not getting the optimum out put from these kids. This is not due to lack of talent, it is due to lack of knowledge..I am not saying I can do better but I know there are other experienced candidate that can do the job better then the present staff we have....the only brite spot I can see is Verti and maybe Coach Zamano, the rest need to be replaced with more experience. Business is business and coach Verti needs to drop his buddies and move this team forward. I know it is tough on Mark Verti to make these decisions but it is time to grow up and protect number one "The Team"....Your holding the cards Verti make some coaching changes. As far as the "Mouth"....I for one think we have said enough about this topic. It was in bad taste for me to point out #37 in the program to state my point but I was just hoping it would open up some peoples eyes as to what kind of disarray this staff has the team in....It starts for the leadership on down with this team and I am sure as I stated before that if we would have brought "the Mouth" down to earth early and worked with him about team concept and accepting a smaller role, plus leading him into maturity with the team slowly, he may have learned and could be contributing right now for us. Need I say more again our coaches Lack of Experience. Older more experienced coaches have kids this age and have a rappore in talking to youg individuals. Younger minded less experienced coaches tend to fight the kid because they are kids themselfs...

john said:

Verti Fan,

You have contradicted yourself in saying that Vetri is a realy good coach and than going on to talk about the team not finishing blocks or executing. A real good coach(head coach) goes out and finds the supporting staff to acomplish this. He went out and hired a bunch of high school buddies.

I am sure that Verti is a real good offensive coach and works on details for the position that he coaches. Pollak was the same way, they need him back. I see a young coach that needs time to mature and if it takes letting go of one of his friends from the coaching staff that is not preparring these kids than so be it. A real good coach needs to seperate his friendship from the field. I keep hearing the same song, "we are young", We have the talent there and it is not too late this year to make a run. Two wins and we are in. A win against one of these power houses and maybe a wild card, strength of schedule. So coach stop with the we are young bit and give the kids credit and get in their heads that they can win.

As for the Mouth, is it true that Verti keeps asking this kid to come back to the Varsity. If it is true and he does not suit up it is time to say good bye to this kid. Every year parents are not happy with playing time for their kid, sometimes they are right and others are not. Sometime we have a bigger impression of our kids and many times the parents are not at practice to see what their child is doing. Who knows, in practice they may not be putting out. Just look at this year, the injury to Gaise gave others a chance and now the new injury gives someone else a chance. Injuries are a big part of the game, you need to keep your head up and when given the chance explode.

Mr. Volec,

Lets get on the Mendrum quotes, I was at the Los Altos vs Damien game. The kid can scramble but the 5-6 kid from LA showed him up and Rex Foss from LA may be small also but he showed up your defense also, this kid is a player. There may have been the one play at the goal line, but rest assured the better team won. LA played that game with heart and Damien played like they should have been bowed down to, and they got punched in the jaw. I have seen many QB's this year and Mendrum is not in the top 5, heck the Amat QB showed me more.

Amataddict said:

Verti Fan,

I don't feel anyone here is questioning Verti's efort. Its the decision making in game, as well as game preparation that is at issue.

MATMTWTBAG is right, CT is not the forum for those converstions, but I can assure you they do happen. Case and point, Michael Mancilla, who we both agree is a great kid from a great family was speaking to a family after the Crespi game. He was telling them how it "just killed him" to see their son on the sidelines and not playing. This is no rumor, I heard it first hand. He also said that he knew what this kid could do and "speaks to Verti regularly and didn't understand it. He new the kid could make a difference."It seems that the kid in question has worked out with Michael and other college players in the off season and really impressed them with his skill and work ethic. So much so, that Michael felt it necessary to bring it up. You would think an endorsement like that would go a long way, but I guess it fell on deaf ears.

Once again, effort is the the question, its decision making. If you ask any player on this years team, they will tell you they had the talent on the team to win EVERY GAME. Then they will tell you that the talent just wasn't used. i think Austin's father would tell you the same thing. You don't have to take my word, ask for yourself.

bleedsblungold said:

Mr VOLEK,

Were you even at the Damien Los Altos game what are you talking about, read the numbers skippy, mendrun 75yds passing and Castanada over 200.

Now are you saying that Damien is a Jr all american team, please respond to the numbers not your opion. Dont wright back I think or probably respond to the numbers.

This is why no C.I.F. titles for your boys, Los Altos smaller and possibly slower than Damien but still whiped the field with your boys, come on friend when your team meats a team that wants to get down and dirty they start blamming refs, your bigger, faster and likely stronger than Los Al but you still lost.

Why, this is the question you must ask yourself why, was it coaching was it the refs was it the little 5'7" Qber, what was it friend, in order for you to make that comment you made earlier about who is the best you need to start answering some questions.

Here is a little hint there is something inside of us that either rises or falls in a great time of stress its called heart and you dont measure it by size or inches.

Lastly in order for mendrun to be the best you must state that your coaching is not as good as Los Altos or that yor "D" line is worthless, you see you need to account for the low numbers and the shoty performance that night, very much had the fill of a 2nd or 3rd round playoff game.
Not to mention the running by your boy was almost all gained by one run in first quarter on second play of game against first time starter at corner who came up to tackle and would have been stopped short of a first but kid young and made a mistake, no excusses here just the facts man a jr missed the tackle. Other than that very subpar performance for the best in the valley.

D.E.s from Damien 6'5" and 6'6" Qber from Los Al 5'7", while D.E.s from Los Al 6' and 6'1" and Qber from Damien 6'2" , oh I get it your saying that the recievers from Damien arent worth a dam oh thats different, I thougt that it was because all of Mendruns passes were high or behind the recievers, gee I didnt understand you at first.

MATMTWTBAG said:

As far as I know most parents in CT hold in lots of what they have to say because come Friday nite after a loss that parking lot is buzzing with complaints about what we just witnessed after a loss. I am a firm believer that we are not accustomed to losing at Amat and Verti knew what he was getting into taking this high profile job. Most want to keep this fresh young mind but we also want experience around him. his present staff do not look like HS coaches...C'mon man Coach Chewie was a good player and looks allot Bo Schembecler but I see him giving no instruction. I hear just chewing out yelling type instrution coming from Coach Devera...I see no instruction....Practice is to be run like a football camp where instrutions are given to you. Like when a coach demonstartes how to do something...If these coaches think that Jr. All American taught these players everything they are mistaked....from the first day I have not seen one coach other than Verti And Pollack reall get down to teaching...the others are along to ride coach Verti's coatails....Seriously that is our problem..lack of instruction...get in the treches with these kids show them.........You think Mater Dei or Servites coaching is letting their kids "just play"...no way they are teaching and getting the maximum out of their kids...is that happening at Amat ....go to practice and observe.....thats where we need experience around our young and gifted coach...Coach Verti you are the President now go out next year and put some good men around you. Do this not for yourself but for the kids that will see the difference next year and will come out and work their A$$ES off for you knowing they have a legit chance of winning....closing ,,dont you think the players know that they are being led by inexperience...trust me they know.....Fire the coach at a basketball game??WOW that is low but it is a cry out for help....THEY WANT TO WIN!!!!

MATMTWTBAG said:

Verti Fan (rare but he still has some)...Yes CT is always broken down with professionalism and class. Most will ask decent questions but this is not a press conference where you can ask anything. No one would want to put coach Verti on the spot with real questions. That would turn that room into a battle royal..........it is not about having stone it is about respect for him. There are lots in the room that want to get to the dirty details in the way the team is running etc but we cannot put this young man on the spot like that....not fair to him and CT would go on till the mid morning....Talk about o-line and not playing the whistle etc, well by game 8 I think our coaches should have that drilled and instilled in our kids minds already , dont you think?....down year lack of talent?...we have the talent and we have been in contention the last 5 games from carson down...but we are lacking something...has our staff not figured that out yet....granted I know Verti is trying his damnest but we have got to find the answers to this before next year...

Verti Fan said:

Chalk Talk was a blast as usual! Coach Verti is really a pretty good coach. I like what he's trying to do with his players and the schemes he's running. Second time there and as always the Amat faithful are very respectful and ask their questions without feeling intimidated. Class guys from what I see.

Great to see former player Michael Mancilla on the field again. Great kid, fantastic family! Austin was beast! Dad was all smiles and "could do better's" but I thing Austin is for real. He'll be fine. Loved the play of #81, heard he's a Jr. so it'll be fun to see him develop. Great instincts and strong outside contain technique.

Overall the Amat squad is doing well for the players they have. It's a down year, in terms of talent, size and speed but, you gotta start somewhere. It's basically the same thing as the last time I went. Players need to step up and make plays. Hit the hole and don't break outside all the time. Stay on your man on blocks "thru" the whistle. Know your reads and make the play. Punish people, ect. ect!

For example an O-lineman blocks his man well and the running back breaks outside for twenty yards and is pulled down by who? The man who was blocked well at the line of scrimmage but ran down field, at an angle, and made the play! That's why in a nutshell Amat loses games at this level. It's that extra effort. Carson did it as well. RB does a wheel route and the DB/LB doesn't pick him up, breakdown -6! It happens just enough on film to change the course of the game. Players not having that edge or commitment to play thru the whistle. Crespi had it Amat doesn't consistently. Is that coaching? No Ithink it's players hearing negative BS all the time, on the blog, at practice, before games and certainly after games and not BELIEVING 100% in their coaches. YOU GOT TO BELIEVE OR YOU"RE LOST! Score was 7-7 and already the players body language is betraying them. Stay positive for once and see if it helps-it certainly can't hurt!

One last thing. If I were the AD of Bishop Amat and some "knucklehead" football players came to a basketball game with signs that read "FIRE THE COACH!" They would all be suspended, ON THE SPOT!! Put up for review, disciplined and if warranted asked to leave! I would not tolerate that kind of classless gargage and misguided arrogance. That's how you win ! Bishop Amat know your worth and ask the classless asses to leave, you're better off without them. Man the nerve and arrogance of those players!

As far as I see the problem is Amat not knowing what to do with the little talent they have left. They're so scared of losing "them" they're handling them with kid gloves. WHO NEEDS WHO!

I remember reading what Giants TE great Mark Bavaro said after being notified that Gerry Faust had been let go by Notre Dame. His comment, "I didn't go to Notre Dame because of Gerry Faust! I went to Notre Dame because of Notre Dame!"

That used to be Bishop Amat's legacy.
Win Friday and it's a 3 way tie for first place in league! Imagine that!

Joe Amat said:

The real deal on "the mouth" might be that his sister is a pretty good basketball player. We know how girls hoops has ruled the roost with the amat VP/assistant coach being married to the head girls coach, so they were probably afraid they would lose the sister if they boot the bro. They were already walking the tightrope with the McCarthy girl who might be their best player and has a ticked off family due to the boys basketball fiasco.

Booing High School Athletes Cont. said:

When punches are thrown and players calm down what happenes is the severity of your actions gets evaluated.

For better or worse the severity of the player's injuries dictates the punishment. The "mouth" gets expelled! Look at the player's eye and tell me that that did not warrant explusion.

That's the difference. Pretty soon you'll read more stories about this misguided kid and when will it be enough? Even Randy Moss was asked to leave a few schools (ND and Florida St) before he settled in at Marshall.

Some people never learn because no one takes the time to make an adult decision that's in the best interest of the kid, the other students and the administration.

As as Verti's mom being the secretary, well that's soooooooo low as to not warrant a response. "Have you no decency, man!"

SupportAmatCoaches said:

AmatAddict
Blucora
Luvthisgame

If all three of you really know football and could do better, quit running your mouths and apply for the job.

Its real easy to sit behind your BS and pass judgment.

I would love to see all three of you come forward with some "Stones" and make an appointment with Verti and the Administration.

Your a disgusting disgrace to the coaching staff, players and school administration.

Booing High School

You pegged this guys, right on!

shhs said:

Voleck

Now to my point, those other 5 qb's have better stats becuase they play jr. all-american teams. Imagine if Mendrun played those teams.. it would be disgusting. Ive seen all the top qb's play and he still impresses me the most

WHAT AN INTELLENGIENT REPSONSE!

The bottom line is Mendrum's stats are well below the leader.

You can what if's all you want but the stats dont lie!

Joe Amat said:

who knows why "the mouth" is even still in school. those that know, ask around about the cell phone/basketball locker room incident last year. why the baskteball coach took him back after that shows how inept and gutless he is, as well. but of course, another product of nepotism and a Msgr hire.

Joe Amat said:

who knows why "the mouth" is even still in school. those that know, ask around about the cell phone/basketball locker room incident last year. why the baskteball coach took him back after that shows how inept and gutless he is, as well. but of course, another product of nepotism and a Msgr hire.

MATMTWTBAG said:

AMATaddict,
Lets see here the "MOUTH" size 6'3 175. #37 5'7 147. not exactly a fair match...do you see where this is going?....can you spell BIG "MOUTH" bully. Yes #37 had no right to attack but the Mouth has been the disruption from day one before pictures were taken...then continues to BS around to the point where they dismissed him to JV squad at practice for disruption... then his antics during the St. Paul game. then the outburst by the Senior linebacker after the Carson game......yet you claim Verti has asked him back.? for what? to lose what he has left on this team because most of the kids on the team cannot stand this immature kid and would quit....I dont think Verti is that dumb to run that risk of having star players quit over this Sophmore. We were doomed from day one when this kid was given (not earned the starting reciever spot)... His head blew up....#29 the junior may not have that Terrel Owens size as the MOUTH but #29 is faster and has better hands and is well liked by his teammates....everyone knew going into training camp that #29 was by far better at the position then MOUTH but it was the coaches whom did this because of size. It just goes to show how coaches get this tunnel vision when it comes to size for football players.... coaches fault here because there was no real evaluating of talent.....it was Big target "your my starter"....that is BS......I am hoping the Mouth sticks to Basketball because he really destroyed this team but not by himself but with the help of the coaches....

Bleeds Blue and Gold said:

I for one cannot understand why "the mouth" is still playing at all. This kind of behavior would not have been tolerated during my years at Amat. I have never condoned nor understood trash talk on or off the field. If he is still there there, that does say a lot about the coaches, and belive me, it's not good.

AMATaddict said:

BOOING HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETES,

No bashing here, I just want to correct a couple of statements you made:

"As far as the recent Crespi loss. I had a feeling that the team would be distracted with all the talk about the "mouth" and the kid being assaulted and some Amat blogger pointing out the players face and #."

First, this incident occurred at the beginning of the season, before the first game. That is why the picture is in the program. Team pictures are taken BEFORE season starts. "The mouth" has been off the team for a few weeks now.
Second, the "assault" was actually a fight between the two because "the mouth" was mouthing off and the other kid took offense from a comment and took a swing at "the mouth". The mouth responded and that was the result. The other incident with the senior was basically the same scenario.

I'm not defending "the mouth". He should be punished, but someone talking about you does not give you the right to take a shot at them. Its like the old saying, "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me".


"Why the "mouth" wasn't arrested or kicked out of school speaks volumes to the "winning is EVERYTHING" attitude that seems to permeate most posts and Amat bloggers. I guess if the mouth is a good basketball player than all is forgiven? Somehow I can't see the assaulted kid cheering in the stands."
This statement totally contradicts the following statement:
"maybe he doesn't play the second stringers because of attitude regardless of ability"

As a coach, you can't tolerate this behavior. 1st or 2nd string, football or basketball, it should not matter.

By the way, the coach has asked "the mouth" to return to varsity on more than one occassion, but "the mouth" refuses because he doessn't trust the coach to do what he says. A lineman also quit for similar reasons and had to be asked by coach Verti to come back. Isn't that a sad commentary?

Like I said, I just wanted to set the record straight.

Bleeds Blue and Gold said:

Darn, I meant to say "they DO NOT" call......


Editor? Editor?

Bleeds Blue and Gold said:

I am the ORIGINAL Bleeds Blue and Gold.

Att: BHSA

We DO NOT boo the athletes on the field.

They do call the offensive plays, they do not call the defensive set ups. They have no say in who plays what position or who is in the game on a particular play. They have no control. It's the coaches and the decisions they make that we disagree with and we let it show. What's wrong with that? The players can only make do with what they are given and if they aren't given the right tools, it's not their fault.

I would think it's safe to say that even they know the difference.

123 said:

lancerblueandgold- Is the "ONE" you mention MSGR. Carrol, because everything starts with him. (just kidding).I think MSGR. can look past Rix's past blemishes, especially if Rix considers doing it for free. I personally don't know Chris Rix, but Amat could sure use help from whatever resources.

Currently, Amat will have to say a thousand Lady Queen of Victories for any chance against ND.
I'll start with one.."Lady Queen of Victory!"

Keep The Faith said:

ATTN: BOOING HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETES
I must have missed an earlier post. What "mouth" are you talking about. Please explain.

lancerblueandgold said:

123-I know the whole story, but that was high school and he is a man who has learned a lesson and been humbled in more ways than one. Chris loves Amat and has asked for forgiveness from the ONE who matters. He is constantly helping when & where he can at Amat. Unfortunately, we all do things we regret as young people, the key here is that Chris has learned from his mistake and has become a better man for it!

123 said:

NO! Do not bring back Chris Rix! Sure, he was hellava talent in high school and started in Florida State, but he was a disrespect to the Amat name. He didn't transfer to SM, he was asked to leave. He had apparently been caught cheating on academic work, quizzes, and exams. We all knew the reasons that weren't being reported to the newspapers. Need I remind you that he was not allowed to play a game in college, because he was supspended for oversleeping during a final exam day. I'm glad Amat keeps their academic integrity in check.

Mike said:

Senor Mike,

e' gavachos tontos, no saben escribir burro. ya no me estes chingaso!!! No digas pendejo,porque pendejo es una palabra muy mala.

Adios!

Mike the Clone

Senor Mike said:

Senor Mike, muchas gracias I likeit that you likeit the sacate! Senor Mike por favor I likeit to see you at the Ayala juejo pero I no have no monie? Coach P he noit pay a me no monie? Only stupid tickets to da games. Maybe I can maybe see da game with your other complaining pendejos in su casa. I bringit the cervezas !!!Muchas gracias Senor Mike, maybe I can meet FANactic and tartanboy it's going to be mucho fun. hezz Senor Rodriguez going to be there tambien? Pero ezzz it futbol why they no play it with there feet? Senor Mike?

Volek said:

SHHS,
First of all Baca plays at Ayala, not Chino Hills(Roenicke is their QB). Now to my point, those other 5 qb's have better stats becuase they play jr. all-american teams. Imagine if Mendrun played those teams.. it would be disgusting. Ive seen all the top qb's play and he still impresses me the most

Oh ya and watch out for the Tartans!
Go plaid

MATMTWTBAG said:

A win vs S.O. Notre Dame and Loyola and a playoff berth could only help Verti case and this time with his present staff, but odds are we are not going to hang with ND. Players know what awaits them and so do the coaches...they will go thru the motiions once they fall behind in this game ND game. A win vs Loyola and at least we can say we did not get run in this new Serra league. But a loss to Loyola and to go without a win in League is going to really set this Blog on Fire....Unacceptable if we go winless..Aram this blog is about to pop if Amat goes 0-3 in league.....you may go over 150,000 hits.

Booing High School Athletes? said:

A few outside observations about Amat with two games to go. I know you Amat people really love your sports and love your players but booing at a high school game?! That has got to be a pretty aweful feeling coming off the field and hearing your fans boo you or your coach.

As far as the recent Crespi loss. I had a feeling that the team would be distracted with all the talk about the "mouth" and the kid being assaulted and some Amat blogger pointing out the players face and #. That was really low but highlights a deeper problem at Amat. "Winning Cures Everthing" and the "Chance of Winning Forgives All!"

Why the "mouth" wasn't arrested or kicked out of school speaks volumes to the "winning is EVERYTHING" attitude that seems to permeate most posts and Amat bloggers. I guess if the mouth is a good basketball player than all is forgiven? Somehow I can't see the assaulted kid cheering in the stands.

Last week all I read was that Amat should be ranked #1 in the SGV and now ...where should they rank? What's that four letdowns in one year? And remeber all the crap ANYONE took for putting Amat any lower than #1? Maybe you just don't have the players. Ever thought about that? I know Verti is conspiring to assist in his own demise (yeah right!) but maybe he doesn't play the second stringers because of attitude regardless of ability. I can't even imagine having a player of mine tell me "Thanks for f-ing up my season!" I would have made him drop his uniform on the spot! That's taught at home and reflective of some of the bloggers statements. I had a player do something similar to me. He would only play corner on the far side of the field, away from the home sidelines. I told him to switch and he refused. I sat him and told him he was done for the day.( 2QT) He comes up to me and demands to get back in the game! "I want to Play!" he shouted. I told him he needed to make a decision, "either sit down and call it a day or hand over his jersey tomorrow." He handed over his jersey , to the team, at the next practice. The team won league and moved on without him. And he was our best corner. The team knew they were in charge of their own destiny and it did not hinge on one player but rested on their collective efforts.

As far as the "bull ring" I believe that was outlawed by CIF a few years ago. For reasons that are self evident. Blu I read that and was a little taken back. Are you saying that you were that kid, Mack? I remember you saying you never apologized to the team and continued to talk trash to the opponent, is that true? Not just regular trash talking that we all may have used once or twice but the kind that got you in the bullring in the first place!

I don't know if Amat is going to rekindle the greatness that once was on the field but clearly the bloggers here reflect a lowering of the bar off the field. I know Amat can do better but it all starts at home before the players arrive on the field. There is no "I" in TEAM but there is in "BITCH" and that's all I hear.

If I were a Bishop Amat player and read these blogs I would be a little embarassed and confused. Then I would 'BOO' the parents and alumni how have nothing better to do than live in the past, brag about the past and crap on the present while feinting support for the future!

Joe Amat said:

Yes, the Chris Rix thing was a real possibility. He offered to do it FOR FREE. He is married to an amat alumnus, his parents in law are big boosters and his little bro-in-law is a student at amat.

But, do the math. Rix left amat for Santa Margarita while Verti was a player at amat. Clearly - it was a personal (not personell) decision. Obviously no love loss there. Too bad for the Lancers.

And the coincidence that Verti got the job whilehis mom is a secretary there is not lost on anyone. Of course the basketball coach is the godfather of the (former) vice-principal/girls bb coach's child (or something like that) - so nepotism abounds on campus and , unfortunately, appears to guide too many decisions..

AMATaddict said:

Hey Aram, I think your TOP 5 still stand. You can repost this in August 07 as a freindly reminder to Carroll and the crew......Just wanted to take everbody back to the beginning...Don't blame me, I am an addict......


August 04, 2006
CONTINUED ... Five things Bishop Amat needs to do to turn around its football program ...
PLEASE SEE INTERESTING, FIRST COMMENT FOR REASON WHY I RE-STARTED THIS THREAD.

IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER

1. Hire a name coach - This one is completely off the books now, but it's worth repeating. I am not saying Mark Verti isn't going to do a good job. Nobody has a clue about him yet. But the school had a wide open door of opportunity after Mike DiFiori resigned, and they hired from within. Great.
Verti could either be the find of a lifetime or a 20-something-year-old gamble that sends Amat fans off the deep end. Not exactly the predicament most fans wanted to be in, but hey.
Here's the thing Verti has going for him. His youth can be played two ways. He's either too young to handle such a position or he's the young guy who relates to the players. No matter how you feel about him, Verti is a former UCLA football player and he's got that on any other local coach. He knows what it takes to go from Amat to the big-time. He can wield his connections to the next level as something that gets kids to Amat because the coach can help them to the next level.

2. Field turf - Uh ... I don't care how much it costs ... the cash wasn't spent on a coach, so put in a nice field. Amat's field is already solid, but some artificial stuff would give the impression that the school is a cutting edge athletic institution. The new gym/weight room/locker room/coaching offices were a step in the right direction. When some kid comes to Amat to watch a game, he should see a state of the art field that will get him excited to possibly play there.

3. Throw rocks at South Hills, Los Altos and Charter Oak high schools until they crumble - Why go to Amat for $ 4-5 Gs per year when you can find a loophole and go to one of these schools for free?
"Gee lil Billy, you want to go play for Steve Bogan, Greg Gano, Lou Farrar or Mark Verti?"
And when the kid asks "Who's Mark Verti?" ... see No. 5 (below)

4. Website - www.bishopamat.org isn't cutting it. Most of the top football programs in SoCal have a website, Amat does not. Some of you might say "The Tribune's website is basically Amat's, so what's the point:?" Hahaha, very funny, but I want to read how the team did in its passing league games, linemen competitions and any other endeavors.
On that note, the football program needs to work better with the media. You know how many long conversations I've had with Gano, Bogan, Farrar, Mark Pasquarella, Mike Maggiore and Jim Singiser? Too many to count. Access to those programs might as well be an open door for the Tribune. I've talked to Verti once. Granted, it's still early. But I know what guys in my position have gone through in the past.
I've always had the vibe that those associated with Amat's football program feel as though it's the media's privelege to cover them and not the other way around. Truth is, it's 50/50 - it's the Tribune's privelege to cover the teams it does and it's the said team's privelege to get covered.
I do not feel that way with any of the other sports programs at Amat. The world-renowned Amat girls hoops team has been made readily available by coach Richard Wiard. And I'm talking non-stop features during the week leading up to a state championship gam. Think about how distracting that can be.

5. Promote the past - As each day passes, the school's glorious past gets further and further away. Amat has relied on name and rep way too long ... but if you're going to do that, then do it well. It's time to show today's teenagers what Amat's program is/was all about. Since tantalizing them with CIF title runs and league titles is not really an option anymore, how about making some of the stars of the past more visible?
The kids of today are growing up with a different Amat than I had during my not-so-long-ago childhood. When I was in HS, Amat games were a freak show. My boys and I went to games to see who the latest freak was carrying the ball for Amat. We weren't Amat fans at all, but we wanted to see the spectacle. I got to see Scott Fields, Rodney Sermons and others. I also got to see Amat make deep runs in the playoffs. Those games vs. Loyola were priceless.
I interviewed Ralph Brown III last year for an NFL playoffs story. I asked him all about what it was like to play for Amat back in the day. He said he can still remember what it felt like just to be the starting tailback at Amat. He said it was similar to thinking about being an NFL player. The reason Brown feels this way is because he grew up watching all the guys who played the position before him, and to be the next in line was probably a mind blowing experience. Who do the SGV football prospects of today point to and say they want to be like - Shaun Cody? Brigham Harwell? Bryan Payton? Daniel Drayton? Patrick Fuller? Bret Lockett?
I am willing to bet most teenaged SGV football prospects know about Cody and not Brian Russell.


Posted by atolegian at August 4, 2006 09:34 PM

Comments
Wow, Amat has really sparked A LOT of conversation. I must say for good reason. The coaching staff, we must start there-Coach Verti. Who? He went to UCLA, but how long did he play there before getting hurt? Comments have been made about him getting the respect of the team-that has not happened. Kids want to play, so they do what they are told in order to get the spot. Problem is they are playing people because they are seniors and not because they are the best players. In addition, they are not assessing their talent base. They have no clue who they have on the bench or on the field for that matter. How do you start to prepare for a season without assessing your talent and letting them see the field during passing leagues and pre-season scrimmages? Hmmm. Food for thought.
The coaching staff-STAFF may be stretching it. Have any of these people ever coached in an organized program? High school even? Or are they personal trainers and big guys that just like the game? I know this may sound harsh, but the truth hurts! You talked about coddling players. Truth is, they chase the players away because the coaching staff does not believe in FAIRNESS. A simple word with big meaning. Perfect example-Matt Castaneda former Amat player now with Los Altos was told he would NEVER play QB at Amat because he was too small and not strong enough. He never played a down at Amat. Players don't expect to be coddled, but they do expect to be shown respect for their time and effort. What a difference assessing your talent makes.

These players practiced from 5:45 am - 7:45 a.m. plus afternoon practices putting in time like this was an NCAA or NFL program yet, they do not play everyone. If you are going to operate in this manner then you should cut players and stop wasting their time and that of their parents. The last I checked tuition is the same for everyone there and does pay the coaches salary.

Charles:
Interesting that an on-looker would have any assessment at all about the back-up QBs when they barely see the field. Hmmmm! Small and questionable arm strength? Sounds like Matt Castaneda all over again and we know how that turned out. If given the opportunity, they would certainly surprise you. How can you see what talent is on this team when it remains one dimensional?

The Receivers- Did you know a Sermons is on the aquad? You're there eveyday? Great receiver, but was moved to DB. Why? Quick feet. Another receiver, a Junior with average height and 4.4 speed, can catch anything but is on the sidelines. Why?

Did you see the passing leagues that Amat participated in? The results? Changes were not made to the offense or defense when they were required-coaches losses not players.
You talked about the O-line. Apparently you missed the Culver City scrimmage. The o-line collapsed consistently. There is a platoon of RBs who are able ready that you have not mentioned. One of the Junior RBs is strong, fast, quick & very much Reggie Bush like. Another Junior FB is the the brother of a former Amat RB who went on to play college ball. Question remains, will they see the field? The fact that you did not mention them proves my point. Again, can we assess our talent & give them some reps? Not a senior. Hmmm.

Aram-Speaking of Chris Rix, he would have been willing and able to coach the varsity QBs this year, but was not given the opportunity. Money was not an issue. AMAZING!!!

Funny, the coach (Verti) made it perfectly clear to the parents and players that his seniors would play. Advice for Coach Verti-be concerned about winning games with this mentality. However, it is unlikely his job will be at risk, because as all have stated here, he is CHEAP! How did you pass up a Mater Dei coach, a previous D1 college coach?

Did you see the offenses they were defending? Why were adjustments not made then? Did they see the defenses they were facing? Why were the same plays run time and time again. It is not difficult to beat Amat because you can see these plays being run from the last 20 years. Variety is the spice of life & football.

Assess the talent, get a coach who knows the game & whose mother doesn't work at the school, who can immediately assess & correct problems during a game or scrimmage on the field.

I don't agree that turf is the answer because the players tend have more injuries on it. However, ever see USC's practice field? Or Loyola's. Just good grass would work. How about an up to date non-shoe staining track for instance. Could they find some new wood for the bleachers for AMAT fans to walk on?

Ok enough of football. Amat is worth the tuition because it gives a child a chance to be a student who is prepared for college. Not sure about most, but the ability to get into college vs. the ability to both get in and stay in are two different things. Not all of the schools mentioned here are preparing the students to do both. Amat has lived on their tradition for far too long with regard to football, but their academics certainly will stand the test of time!


Posted by: foozballwatcher at August 4, 2006 09:43 PM

Foozballwatcher, that was the hardest hitting post I've seen on here. So hard hitting that I moved the thread up so people could see it. Please tell us more about the Chris Rix thing. Was he really a possible QBs coach candidate? Can anybody else substantiate that?

Posted by: Aram at August 4, 2006 09:45 PM

bluorca said:

I've really enjoyed reading all of the Amat bloggers entries this week. Surprisingly I dont have anything to add. I know, I'm shocked too. You guys hit every thing and said everything that needed to be said. I guess the only thing that matters right now is facing the #1 team in the Pac-5. This game above anything will show just how far Bishop Amat has to grow again.

AMATaddict said:

MATMTWTBAG and John,

I wanted to give you both a little first hand info. Manzo did not sign off on Verti and the committee made up of alumni, such as John (J.J.) Jackson former USC Wideout and current Fox Sports analyst, did not recommend him as first choice either. It was strictly Mssgr. Carroll's call. By the way, Verti's mother just happens to be Carroll's secretary. How ironic is that?

LUVTHISGAME said:

123, Lancer B&G, Amat Addict and Joe Amat are all correct in their takes.

Damien Dad- You are correct, HS is a great time to remember, and it only lasts 4 years. Varsity HS football for most is even a shorter period of time, an average of 2 years. I believe this is why most people have such high expectations at any school, let alone a school like an AMAT with its football tradition.

Players aspiring to make it to the next level dont have the luxury of waiting 2-3 years for a program to turn around or to get a fair shake. They are working with a very small window of opportunity. That is the major reason why the HS transfer and residence issues are so huge. Aram even has a blog about this now, regarding public vs private.

Then people want to bad mouth these players who leave and their families. They are only doing what will give them the best chance for success. Remember, for some students athletics is the only way for them to better their family situation or to obtain a college education. Is that so wrong to want. Isn't that what this country is supposed to be about. If people "just dealt with it and shut up" all the time, we would have no progress. All minorities, that primarily make up the SGV, should know this all too well.

Today's HS coach has an even bigger responsibility to these young men than in the past. They are affecting the future of every player that laces up a cleat for their program. Its not about bashing coaches here, as so many are quick to say. Its about the coaches recognizing their role in the bigger picture. Just like the game is not about one player, it is also not about any one coach or a coach's own agenda or propaganda. The game is supposed to be bigger than that.

In the case of Verti, even in his youth, parents, alumni and especially the players expect that a guy who has "been there" understand these principles and entrust him to do the right thing. Thats all, nothing more and nothing less. This situation and the issues with Verti, his staff and the administration have been discussed in this forum from day 1. It has been an issue and common theme during both the AMAT wins and losses.

Can he please everybody, of course not. But when multiple families are coming to you and/or the AD with concerns, and you do nothing, its an issue. When your alumni turnout at Homecoming is the lowest its been in years, its an issue. When college coaches, recruiters, etc. recognize talent on your team and you do nothing to promote it, its an issue. When you are booed by your home crowd, its an issue.

Any player deserves better.

Mike said:

Concern,

Can't comment on anything I haven't seen.

Out!

john said:

Joe Amat,

you have hit it on the head. Msgr. Carroll must go. It starts with the administration. I remember when the coach search was on and there were some 50 + coaches that wanted the position. There was supposed to be a committee put together of former players, booster club members and current parents. I sure would like to know who was in the meetings to find the right coach!!!!! Was their recommendations heard bt Msgr. Carrol. It is my experience that he hears from the committees and than goes with his own decision.

WHAT LEADERSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep The Faith said:

I agree with Joe Amat, credibility is not a thing that can be earned quickly. As far as the players viewpoint, Coach Verti was a backup tight end at UCLA and an assistant high school football coach. Baseball coach Nieto comes highly regarded. He played at Cal State Fullerton and was drafted by the Chicago White Sox Organization. He played a few years in the White Sox and Tigers organizations. He then was part of the staff the led USC to a national title. He coached at USC for 10 years. Players instantly respect and listen to what he says. Coach Verti is a nice guy and will be a good high school coach. I just hope it will be at AMAT.

MATMTWTBAG said:

Difiori never really recovered from that Playoff game vs Loyola at Cerittos College that nite. Not going on 4th and inches when we were running that ball on them all nite. Alumni,players and parents were pissed comming out of that stadium that nite...Coach D was a pretty decent coach but that put the asterisk by his name ***No Cahones!...He also resigned at the right time. He knew that the next team did not have a good senior crop and it was not going anywhere. So to further tarnish his reputation he left at the right time. Our new coach is young and I did say ealier to keep him but put experience around him. Thats what he is lacking, a mentor to school him along the way...He (verti) could have the title but the AD should have gave him the resources to do a good job. More exp. coaching around him. This is where a good CEO whom hires a Manager is smart enough to know you must give him all the tools to perform his job or else you are setting this person up to fail..Did in fact AD Manzo set coach Verti up to fail?...did Manzo Give him all the necessary tools to do his job.? Can we learn from this and change things for next years group of kids, which by the way is Senior , talent loaded. Yes we do need to give Verti another Crack at it, but with some household changes coming from the top ( Manzo , Carroll)....what a shame if we set this coach up to fail his first year....Verti is a employee of the school and his success will come if he has strong leaders at the top steering the ship of Amat. You cannot give a 27-28 year old rookie coach all the say to do whatever he wants as far as staff and decision making. Our leaders should have seen this coming and demanded a experienced coaching staff to help ease this transition of a young coach....I am hoping Coach Verti gets better and he can only go upward from here because if we lose next year he will be gone...this school is not that patient especially when it comes to its biggest draw football..The leaders know if the football team is winning we are even drawing big crowds and more $$$$...The only positive that coach Verti will get out of this is on his resume, that he indeed was head varsity football coach at Bishop Amat. With that on your resume he can go on to become a head coach somewhere else and that Bishop Amat name will help his for his hiring elsewhere. Good luck next year Verti. I am hoping your bosses make some adjustments with you and not let you flounder like this year.

Aram said:

... Yeah what a bad thing the Tribune's blog is ... which everyone reads, daily, multiple times daily, hourly, minute-by-minute. If I had a dollar for everyone who said they don't read the blog, I'd be living in Glendora.

Joe Amat said:

Didn't mean to add Chaminade to the Serra League. That game, just replaces the loss of game by going to a 4 team league

Mike said:

You guys at Amat continue to amaze me; you guys make me look like a feather thrower compared to the way your blasting the first year guy. Gezz I bet your “Coaches Chalk Talks� are a slug feast. Man I would fit right in with you guys, as it is I’m just a rebel over here roaming these here hills of Glendora.

Man we have our little booster meetings and all we talk about is what a bad thing the Tribunes Blog is and what a mean guy “Mike the Clone� is. It’s incredible it’s like we all sit around and sing Kum- Ba- Yah.

Although the last time the blog was brought up (the week after Damien) things changed that Friday night against Chino Hills. The offence opened up and “Pasqie� was more creative. Although he denies it I really think “Coach P� sneaks in here to read what is being said. Either that or he sends "Tartanboy" in here with his little Maxwell Smart shoe phone and let's coach know what's going on.

"Hello.....Hello come in coach P. that Mike the Clone is a real jerk it's insane what he is saying and others are starting to agree with him on certain things... what shall I do??? Hello, Hello come in can you hear me?"

Oh well you Amat guys are brutal! I have made some good friends with some of you guys…. Thanks for making me look like a sweetheart. I only wish we had that intensity over on Foothill Blvd. Until then I’ll just have to learn the close my eyes and wish I were at another place when the “button wearers� start singing Kum-Ba-Yah at the booster meetings.

Out!

Joe Amat said:

kab,

Not to burst your bubble and blow your theory but the new league of Crespi (D X last year), Notre Dame (D III) Chaminade ( D III ) and Loyola is actually a step down from the schools that are traditionally in amat's league: Mater Dei, Santa Margarita, St John Bosco, Servite, and Loyola.

The larger portion of coaching is what goes on outside of Friday nights - and that is what is usually shows with inexperience and is more difficult to repair

kab said:

AGAIN-
AMAT COULD OF & WOULD OF BEAT DHS,GHS,CO
TAKE AWAY 3 LOSSES AND GAIN 3 WINS, NO ONE WOULD BE CRING FOR HELP. NEW PROGRAM STARTS WITH A TOUGHER SCHEDULE GOING INTO A TOUGHER LEAGUE.

shhs said:

Volek

You better do alot more research to claim Mark Medrun is the best QB in the valley. His numbers do not justify your claim to fame. In matter of facts five QB's have better numbers, including BACA from Chino Hills.

Just think of the stats Chavez, MCD, Castaneda and Lamaison would have with the O line of Damien??

We could debate your claims anyway you want, but the stats speak for themselves.

Joe Amat said:

It is not really Verti that people should have a beef with. All he can be is what he is, and its' not his fault that he is what he is. He is a young, rookie inexperienced coach and the lancers are suffering because of it.

If a coach puts an unprepared player in a position where he is destined to fail - it is the coaches fault. When an administration puts an unprepared coach in a position in which he is destined to fail - it is the administrations fault.

Lack of immediate credibility is hard to get back. When you are entering a storied program like amat you cannot afford to have that lingering doubt hanging over your head. I don't think that DiFiori ever really recovered from that and really earned that respect from everyone. Verti certainly will be swimming upstream from here on out and it is going to be tough - Lancers expect immediate, and continued success.

123 mentions the other recent championships and the 2002 boys basketball championship was won during that coaches first year as the head coach at the school. But he came in with previous head coaching experience and tons of credentials so the players and the parents bought in and they made immediate improvement to an already good (even if disfunctional and underachieving) team to win a CIF Championship, a good playoff run the next year and was rebuilding with a bunch of really good sophomores when the school dropped the ball and should have done everything that they could to keep him. He was replaced by a coach with a terrible record as a head coach from arch-rival St Paul and who mutiny on his hands from the get go. He had an awful relationship with parents (kiss of death at amat) and started with no credibility (football players would show up at games with posters calling for his firing) and he probably will never overcome that at amat. Again - administration put someone that was unprepared in a position to fail.

The girls basketball coach has been very successful and got immediate respect because he was sleeping with the vice-principal (easy now, it's ok - they are married). But now that vice-principal is gone to become the principal at Charter Oak, (which will be interesting because the amat girls coach teaches at CO as well). He could be on his way out of amat for bigger or better things-and administration may be faced with a decision again. Let's hope that they don't make the same mistake they made with the boys.

Administration seems to have made a good call with the new baseball coach, who was an assistant coach at USC for some time - immediate credibility from athletes and parents will limit the second guessing and lead to that buy in that Verti doesn't, and may never, have. Not his fault, but the administrations. Lancers deserve better.

Betty B said:

well said Damien Dad, well said.

Mike said:

Hey Tartanboy,

Welcome back, I was wondering what happen to you. Then I realized the St. Augstine in Coach P's yard doesn't grow as fast this time of year and doesn't need to be cut as often. Bye the way that yard of his is looking good. Nice Job!

Glad to see your son is getting more playing time. You worked hard for it!

See you at Ayala little guy.

Out!

Sorry folks I just had too it was just to easy!

Mike the Clone

123 said:

-Girls Basketball Division 3 State Champions (2005,2006)
-Girls Basketball Division 3 SS Chamions and State Runner Up (2004)
-Boys Baseball Division 4 SS Champions/ #1 in the country by USA Today (2003)
-Boys Baseball Division 4 Champions/ #1 in the country by USA Today (2002)
-Boys Basketball Division 3 SS Champions (2002)

*report may be innacurate, if you know more accolades please post. Amat doesn't hang any league championship banners. We only care about the rings.

123 said:

Matmtw, the lack of respect towards the coaches has been prevalent for some time now in Amat. After the playoff loss to Loyola (4th and inches), the coaching staff not only sensed the despite from the stands but also from the players. Allegedly, one of the coaching staff asked, "If anyone has anything to say, say it now.." One of the players replied, "Thanks for f**king up my season!".

One of the coaches I would like to see assume the head coaching position is former Defensive Coordinator Dechon Burns. He was on the coaching staff during Amat's last glory years. Nearly, if not all, who was coached by Burns had so much respect for him. However, I doubt his name will even be entertained.

I apologize if this post seems antagonistic towards the Amat program and administration, but hey I'm just letting out some frustration. How long must the Amat faithful hear that cliche frase, "wait until next year"?! We've been saying those words for nearly a decade now! Come on!

At least we got Girls Basketball to hold our pride! (I am honest). That coaching staff must be something special to have back to back state champs! None of the other SGVERs can even compare. I'll post up more accolades that the Amat sports program has earned just to salvage some pride.

Tartanboy said:

Bring back tartanboy!

Hey Mike does that mean I(tartanboy) don't exist anymore? I too was your imaginary friend when you put your foot in your mouth the last time. (regarding the Glendora Rumor Mill).

Now you've done away with me(tartanboy), hasn't been heard of since Glendora beat Chino, and created FANatic to "talk to" and "play with". What's the matter Mike ? Too much time in the basement?

I just have to wonder what the parents and players at Glendora think of your antics? I mean you're entertaining as hell watching a 6'3" 300 pounder backpedal and wiggle when confronted and challenged. You slam JAA coaches and then when Mr. Rodriguez calls you on it you magically become FANatic and mention how Henry has been the exception to the rule and ACTUALLY coached your son. Then you become Mike the Clone and attach yourself to Mr. Rodriguez's point even though he was completely offended by your remarks. That was funnier than watching a bear balance a ball on it's nose while roller blading backwards!~YOU KILL ME!!! Finally you curl up like a kitty cat in front of a fireplace when the Amat soldier comes a callin'! MEOW! Mike you are the best! Any luck with that other matter? You funny funny man you.

SGV Athlete said:

its just like they tell you in high school...if you win, its all about the players, but if you lose, the coach gets all the blame...

yes, i admit that Verti made some bad calls this past game, but give the guy a break. honeslty, did we all have the highest expectations this year for a YOUNG rookie head coach?? when i saw how much talent AMAT lost and the whole new coaching staff, i admit, i was very worried. but the Lancers have done the best they can with the players they have and the plays being called. my hat goes off to all the players at AMAT and the coaches that are obviously just getting their feet wet.

GOOD LUCK THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AGANIST A VERY TALENTED SHERMAN OAKS NOTRE DAME AND A HUNGRY LOYOLA...

Damien dad said:

A couple of thoughts now that the season is almost over for alot of seniors.

Football is the best team sport. Ten years from now when you drive by a local high school and see a football team practicing spring ball you'll only remember the good times and your team mates. The amount of playing time and your won/loss record will never enter your mind. You'll look back and wish you could do it all again knowing it was the best of times, even in the worst of times.

Alot is being said about the schools and players that dominate the blog. I want to praise the teams and players that go to battle shorthanded and come out winners in spite of the score. That's what football is all about- facing down an opponent and giving it all you've got.

To the coaches who have to hear it all, from all sides, and still smile in the face of defeat, look the players in the eye and tell them - He's proud of their effort! I salute you! Those players will one day learn to appreciate and admire you for being "their coach"! I still get chills when a former player yells, "Hey Coach!"

I also want to mention to the parents who have players on the field and on the sidelines. I have a little secret I think every player will agree is true.

" There is no better sight thru a face mask than the smile of pride from a parent or loved one".

dabearsdabearsdabears said:

raiderfan,
let me be a man and apologize. apparently tommy t is very close to you. i must have misread something and assumed he was someone else's uncle. im sorry if i offended you but the guy im talking about is who freight train was talking about. he apparently has the same guy im talking about. now, if tommy t isnt who im thinking he is, and in fact, you proved hes not, then im sorry. can you accept that.
now that the kisses and hugs have been dished out, JOE D^3rd, what the heck was that about. why you picking on Joe. he admits he cant spell and is having fun on here, why you going to call him homeristic. tell him to get the rowland jock out of his face? if he does, then i think everone does. he supports the team the right way. positive towards the kids. thats what this blog is about. ill admit, ive strayed from what this should be about and ill only stay positvie from here on out. i do think its funny that i was told by VAN EARL SMACK that i have no life since im on here so late, but being on here before bed time makes a huge difference. VAN EARL, i agree, small did run like a beast and always has. never ever put the kid down. not happy with some things he did, but hes a kid. dont like to see so much talent go to waste. (lawrence phillips). i made mistakes just like he did. ok, better get off, my shows are on. haha. out

kab said:

VOLEK
WE KNOW ABOUT #15 ARE YOU HIS DAD? IF COVINA PLAYS OAKS CHR. ON THERE SCHEDULE THIS YEAR YOUR #15 WILL LOOK LIKE GANESHAS QB.

kab said:

COACH BASHERS,
IM SURE YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE THE COACH FOR YOUR TEAM, AS WOULD I. BUT YOUR NOT! IM SURE AMAT DID ITS RESEARCH FOR A COACH AND SELECTED COACH V. NOT YOU. COACH V DOESNT HAVE THAT SOFT SCHEDULE AS THE FORGOTTEN COACH HAD THE LAST THREE YEARS.
DAMIEN,GLENDORA, CHARTER OAK, AN EASY 3-0 START EACH YEAR. NOW A TOUGHER LEAGUE.MAYBE THE "NICE COACH" ONLY PLAYS THE PLAYERS THAT LISTEN TO HIM AND RESPECT HIM. GIVE HIM A CHANCE, AT LEAST 2 YEARS AND AMAT WILL BE BACK IN CIF IF NOT THIS YEAR.

Volek said:

I dont know what all of you are talkin about.. Mendrun is still the best qb in the valley hands down. He leads the #1 team in the valley and plays the hardest schedule, while still managing to put up good numbers. I would love to see the damage he would do in Covina/Bonita's schedule

BUCK said:

Last time I looked, this was a blog. Where people give THEIR opinion on how they see things. I believe, if you don't agree, try and articulate a response or argument other than "shut up". If everyone shut up we wouldn't learn anything or have this arena to vent or gloat on. I knew the JAA comment would go south quick, it's like talking about little league baseball, not many adults are ever happy. The kids don't care, their playing grab ass by the snack bar with the kids they just played against, while the parents are still in the stands grumbling. Maybe we should all take a lesson from the kids. The games over, what happened, happened, learn from your mistakes and move on. Have them work hard to improve themselves, so they can benefit the "team." If we are lucky, our kids will be able to play at the next level. I don't remember who said this quote "LUCK,is when hard work meets oppurtunity". So, with that said, Let's get back to high school football, after all there is only two weeks left of the regular season. GO TARTANS!!!!

JOE D^3rd degree.. said:

Joe, that little comment made me laugh..You are the most homeristic person I have ever heard..Stop picking on the Tartan Faithful or the Amat fanatics or the others....You need to get Rowland's jock out of ur face...Sorry, Aram, ?I don't want to start stuff but this guy is extremely biased and overall, not very knowledgable about football..

concern said:

Mike the clone I have a question for you, what do you think or advice you have for the west covina offence and defence of line because they need some help....

VANNER said:

Damn just catching up on this blog and it appears to me some of these bloggers need to spend more time on Dr. Phil's blog! Ripping your players who fought hard for 4 quarters and lost, calling the fans out (on the same sideline)WOW!
if it's all in good fun that's cool but it seem's a bit too personal based on some of these replies.

d1b said:

covinas jaa football team is great

Amatsupportscoaches said:

JacksBack

RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!

Now Amataddict thinks because you pay, then you have a right to bash coaches. What a joke this guy is!

Who cares how he got hired, the administration made the decision now live with it or SHUT UP!

DO you really think you are making a difference and are a real leader by running your mouth?

Guess again

joe said:

ARAM, I THINK THIS BLOG NEEDS A GROUP HUGE, SO MANY PEOPLE OPEN THERE TRAPS BEFORE THEY KNOW THE FACTS OR WHAT THERE TALKING ABOUT ,WHY CAN'T MORE PEOPLE BE LIKE ME AND SPEAK THE TRUTH ,THATS BECAUSE IM ONE OF A KIND OUT.

shhs said:

Living Legend (In your own Mind)

What league do you play in again??

Is your league tougher than LA, Bonita, CO and Wilson??

Get a grip!

Jacksback said:

AmatAddict

Billy B is right!

Your a loser and a guy whos quits on your coach and probably your boss- IF YOU DONT LIKE HIM.

What a freakin baby!

Just because you pay at Amat doesnt give you any more right to bash coaches. Its parents like you that dont know anything about coaching. Quit being a "Monday Morning QB" and grow up or better yet, WHY DONT YOU APPLY FOR THE JOB SINCE YOU THINK YOU KNOW IT ALL!


MATMTWTBAG said:

Lancer B&G,
Great takes on the coaching situation. Yes you hit it on the nail when you said how many Kids will come out next year for the team?...My biggest fear is the transfer of certain kids to the other HS....Los Altos is always licking their chops for our disgruntled kids that never get a fair shake to show their talents. Coach Verti needs to evaluate not only himself but his staff. I do not know what kind of contract the school is binded to with this coach but if this coach has not figured out what went wrong this season and is going to let his ego get the best of him and bring this staff back, look for the same looking team next year....We have got the talent to take this 4 team Serra league next year but you need a solid foundation...from a player I spoke to the other day and this is no BS....the problem with Verti is the players do not fear him....he is TOO NICE!....the respect is not there...They feared Coach Difiori and did not get away with the stuff they get away with playing for Verti and this young staff. One of the star players on Defense (no names here) does not listen to coach Z the defense of coordinator..I myself witnessed it first hand at last weds. practice...the players like children know what they can get away with.........Lets face the fact that we made a mistake and lets keep coach Verti for another year but he is to be held accountable for the Win Loss record and make demands on him that his staff needs to be replaced with more Experience. Where is our AD in all this.???? Did they give Verti full reign on all decision making.? If he has the full authority of this team and all decision making we are in for another losing season next year...you cannot give a person with no work experience full command in any type of business...The AD should have brought this inexperience young man along slowly as his head coach and took some of the pressures off him. He should have also put in the new coaching staff for him based on his inexperience....there is lots to learn for Amat and it's hiring process.

Aram said:

I mean they always have a loss like that in league to a team they otherwise shouldn't lose to.

MVL said:

What do you mean by "El Monte always does this"?? = {almost}always loses leads???

FANatic said:

FANatic is in the house!

I guess I will have to chime in on the subject of JAA.

My kid played many years under the direction of JAA Coach Henry Rodiquez and, I will have to say, my kid is who he is today because of Henry. My kid, as well as his peers, not only learned from Henry incredible fundamentals, but also spirit, respect and how to "bring it on" come game day!

But, Mike The Clone, is also correct in saying there are some bad apples out there. The kids seldom have a choice of coaches unless they play for another community other than their home town ,which by the way happens a lot.

Thanks Henry for all you do and, believe me when I say, the kids truly appreciate seeing you in the stands on game day. I'm sure you experience great satisfaction seeing the players you coached as 9 and 10 year olds, now starting on varisty making game winning receptions, rushes, tackles, blocks or passes! You coached the kids well as demostrated by their skills and attitudes!

Thank you!

Oh, and by the way, IAATK (It's All About The Kids).

FANatic has left the Blog!

SH Fan said:

Mike the Clone,

i honestly belive you are pretty off on your whole comments about JAA Football. I have coached on both the HS and JAA level, and there are good and bad coaches on each level. and, as stated, the few bad coaches give the good coaches a bad name. i am sure that if you looked up problems with high school football you would find just as many, if not more articles about how 'bad' things are. in instances like these you find what you are looking for.

but, the proof is in the pudding. if you look at the West Covina and South Hills Programs alone you see many of the WC Bruins and Covina Vikings players fairing very well in both programs. not saying that it is becasue of the youth programs that the high school programs do so well, but as you can see on the varsity of SH alone there are MANY sophmores that would not be as well versed in the game if they did not play youth football. many of the humble coaches at the high school level acknoledge the difference a youth football program can make on a young athlete.

coaches on any level can tell you that it is often the parents that drive coaches to focus on winning. it is quite amazing how critial the parents are when your team is losing, and how quiet they are when your team is winning. it is because of this pressure and these critiques that coaches are so focused on winning. these VOLUNTEERS try their best to keep everything in perspective, but it is hard when you hear the stands comment on every decision you make. i guess it is easier to be critical from the outside looking in, than from the inside looking out.

FANatic said:

FANatic is in the house!

I hear you "Bro",

Perhaps the higher source "Aram" should not allow posters to respond to each other by blog name, but, allow posters to respond to issues raised only. In other words, don't address your response to other posters and instead address the issue only. Sometimes when we "call out" somebody it looks like a "personal attack". Does that make any sense?

I'm sure Aram will say "We are all adults...deal with it! And he would probaby be right!

FANatic has left the Blog!

hoping said:

I hope West Covina makes some changes on the line if not I hope the coaches REALLY GET TUFF on them to start showing up at the games. We will NOT win if this is not fix.Also I would put a back in front of Wallace to block for him because no else is he needs help....

CO Bro said:

Come on AT! I thought this blog was to talk about High School sports, not a venue for personal attacks on people who have way to much time on their hands. You have the power to stop some of these posts and I think you should exercise that power. I can honestly say that I too have taken a few shots at other bloggers but not to the extent that some of these others have. Some of these people are turning this site into a free for all. It's all fine to voice your opinion on the daily issues but to constantly bash others is just stupid. MOST of those who post here have very valid and interesting opinions, but once someone has another point of view than theirs it turns into a free for all and the rest of us have to pay by reading this garbage. I for one am tired of it. I know..."If you don't like it then don't read it!" That's BS, that’s not what we are all hear for...is it? So please EVERYONE! Let’s just stay on topic, if someone disagrees with you that’s OK!

whatever man said:

bleedblungold just shut up man you keep falling into mike the clones trap and he is making you look silly and stupid. he keeps giving you rope to hang yourself with and you keep tighten the rope to hang yourself.he has hung you out to dry man on almost every poiont on every argument.just let it go and take your licks ok foolio.

Honk This said:

Bogan would be saying Nick who?? if he had the chance to recruit.. I mean have McNasty at QB. Lamiasons numbers are so good because they keep playing from behind!!! There's no doubt who the best QB is in the SGV no matter who they play, lucky it aint SH or they could shut them up too!

raiderfan said:

Da Bear...
Are you sure you are talking about the right guy (Tommy T)? I don't think you are. First of all Tommy T doesn't drink! Water and diet soda is about all so you are wrong there. Second he would never yell "he's got to get at least two touchdowns"...his nephew isn't a receiver, running back or quarterback. Why would he care if "he" has two or not. And third he absolutely doesn't think one person should get the ball all the time. He wants to see the coaches passing as much as they are running it and doesn't want to see the same kids getting it either way. And by the way...I sit by Tommy T (who has only been to about 4 games this year) and I have never seen anyone get up and walk away...in fact the same people are ALWAYS around us at every game. Get your facts straight before you are calling someone out like that. I am offended that you would insinuate that he comes drunk to the games when that is so FAR from the truth. You seem to know who Joe is and Joe seems to know who you are...why don't you ask him who Tommy T is!

bleedsblungold said:

Way to go mike the Clown putting down all the parents and coaches and for that matter all the kids at the Dons program, so you did a little research well then I quess you deserve a medal.

Great coaching there this year, and go ask the kids and parents instead of just sitting on your fat A#@ behind a computer and getting all the facts, remember there are three sides to a story yours mine and the truth, are you trying to personelly attack someone or are you just plain stupid, were kinda narrowing down to who you are anyway slick so time to shut up

The friends that I have there along with thier kids dont even drink, A#@ wipe so while you are putting up web sites trying to tear people down careful yours doesnt accidentially get posted somewhere. Not only that but a parent from pico fought not a coach and I thought your original attack was on all the coaches, I wasnt aware you were including the parents in this critique

Any other info you want to post to try to attack some other programs feel free my friend your batting one hundred percent now numb n#@*s

Lets review

1. Just your opinion but all youth football coaches in our area are FLUNKIES
2. Mr rodriquez should give all coaches a seminar.
3. And Pico rivera parents are noo good, and started a drunken brawl last year and heres the web site to prove it.

Man your crazy from what I hear they are having a great year, thier numbers are up, and sending several teams to playoffs, oh yeah and my buddies kid really likes his coach and assistants, now thats whats really important here isnt it friend, or I have got a great idea why dont you research all the coaches and programs out there and give us your web site and we can contact you for your approval list.

You see how difficult it is to coach at the youth level the coaches at Pico are doing a dam good job this year and ive seen some of thier games they have it together, and some CLOWN like you tries to put them down, and you dont even know anything about them this year, thats the kind of junk you have to deal with, and your not even making a dime, many times you loose money trying to coach at this level. Some teams cant afford equipment or insurance all sorts of stuff out there and many of these coaches put out money from there own pocket and never get reimbursed, and they do it year in and year out.

Man you make me SICK and you are a boy, and your dam right im upset and bollistic at your comments there is a time for everything even a time to get angry and I think giving an opinion when no one asked for it and attacking a system that you were never even a part of like you originally said, is plain assinine ive put in many hours for free on the field so did my dad and thousand of other dads out there you should just keep quiet on the issue here man or else step up with info.

AMATaddict said:

Hey yo billy B, billy BOB or billy BOY, yuk yuk:

IF you dont like your boss or your job, sometimes you do quit. You don't stay there and just take the abuse like you backwoods folk do in your Jerry Springer type relationships. What are you teaching your kid other than inbreeding.....

By the way, I believe AMAT, as well as most parents today should be teaching their kids to be leaders in the workplace, the community and the world. Thats the reality. Thats where most have an issue with the coach. If they are paying for their kids high school education, they have even more reason to speak out because that education takes place in and out of the classroom, while on those school grounds.

Oh, I forgot to tell you, leader is a fancy word for "the boss", slick.

SGVFTBHONK said:

Big difference between the SH QB and the Covina HS QB. The SH QB actually plays real teams...Rancho Cucamonga, Los Altos, Trabuco Hills, La Habra,etc. I would hope that the CHS QB would have big numbers when he plays against powerful football titans such as Ontario Christian, Sonora and Mountain View.

One last thought, I think if you check the passing leaders in the valley, the SH QB is on top.....just an observation!

AMATaddict said:

Hey yo billy B, billy BOB or billy BOY, yuk yuk:

IF you dont like your boss or your job, sometimes you do quit. You don't stay there and just take the abuse like you backwoods folk do in your Jerry Springer type relationships. What are you teaching your kid other than inbreeding.....

By the way, I believe AMAT, as well as most parents today should be teaching their kids to be leaders in the workplace, the community and the world. Thats the reality. Thats where most have an issue with the coach. If they are paying for their kids high school education, they have even more reason to speak out because that education takes place in and out of the classroom, while on those school grounds.

Oh, I forgot to tell you, leader is a fancy word for "the boss", slick.

amatblueandgold said:

Billy B-come on now! Apparently you are not aware of the manner in which this coach got the job. The experienced candidates never had a chance. Know your facts and then speak otherwise, just stay quiet!

MATMTWTBAG said:

All the credit goes to the players this year not the coaches. The players have not quit and you can see it in their faces as they exit the locker room after trouncing that they are fed up with this Coaching staff. There was a good candidate that they did not give the job to. He voice his displeasure with me that he wanted the job one afternoon and some parents wanted him as the next coach after Difiori....He came with lots of Experience and a very solid Resume. Why they went with a inexperienced coach is beyond me. The coach I am talking about coached college football as well as High School....His name is coach Dicamilla....talking to this man for 5 miniutes I was impressed with the knowledge he had of the HS game. Why we have him coaching basketball right now is ridiculous!

Living Legend said:

Hey Shhs and other bohi backers...where are you now? Where is all the Jc is the best quarterback in the valley talk now? How come i have not heard you say that JC is so much better the McD? Could it be that the 6 touchdown showing Mcd put on last Friday night, put to sleep any talk of who will be the mvp of the valley. Hey Aram, when was the last time the valley had a back-to-back valley mvp in football....Mcd 18 passing td's and 15 rushing td's....

Joe Amat said:

On the subject of youth football coaches, to paraphrase Henry Kissenger when talking about polititions, " Ninety percent of youth football coaches give the other ten percent a bad reputation."

billy B said:

Lancerblueandgold

You cannot pick your coaches as the above man
stated. Bill, what a great reality check!

If you don't like your boss, do you quit and move on? What are you really teaching your kid?

God help the AMAT coaches and their program With parents like this, it can only get worse!

Apply for the job, or learn to deal with it.

Mike said:

"Tupacisalive"

That was not my qoute, that was Aram with a little friendly backhanded smack to this Clone.

Oh and hate to break it to you but, Tupac is dead.

Out!

Mike the Clone

lancerblueandgold said:

Amat faithful-this is a sad state of affairs. Luvthisgame outlines some very valid solutions to the problems Amat is having, but so have so many others over the past weeks. We have been saying for months that the coach needs to go to the bench, use the talent he has, re-assess the position of QB, change it up, get some experienced coaches to help, pay attention and adjust during the games. And on and on!

After reading all of the Amat Faithful’s notes I had to contribute. It is pitiful that this coach has not learned one thing from coaching football under other head coaches or since he took this job as a head coach. Coach Verti has only been consistent in his inconsistency! He has consistently failed with “his plan�. Whatever that is? HE does not even appear to know what his plan is. He wanders around on the field during the games with a blank look on his face-deer in the headlights. He does not appear to know what to do at ANY time. Mike the clone said allow him to execute his plan over the next couple of years. This not the NFL and Amat does not have a few years. If the school is at the bottom this year and next they will be dropped from this division. “His plan� is not a good one as it continues to perpetuate losses, controversy, and inconsistency. This coach has played favorites the few years he has been at the school, so much so that some players did not return to play Varsity football this year. He has taken the value out of talent and hard work. The manner in which he handles this job communicates that talent and hard work get you no where. He is not a man of his word as has been seen through dealings with many players and parents. More than one family has indicated he does not keep his word or tell the truth. He has no clue about assessing talent. He has many talented, proven players sitting on the sidelines or playing in “other� positions because that is where he thinks they best serve the team. So apparently there are 40 plus players that best serve the team as cheerleaders or standing on the sidelines. There are players who in some cases have been playing these positions for years, probably more than he has been coaching.

What a loss! Coach Verti has torn down the Amat program and these players. It is shameful that the A.D. and the other administrators have allowed this. They have had complaint upon complaint about Coach Verti, but they refuse to deal with them. What a difference an experienced, fair coach would make. Some have spoken of the talented juniors and the potential for next year. However, if your experience was to ride the bench as a cheerleader or to sit on the sidelines with the promise from a man who does not keep his word that you will play, what is the guarantee that he will have these players next year? I have to hand it to the players for not quitting this year, but it will be interesting to see how many of them will be willing to come out for this coach next year.

Many bloggers have commented many of the same things here. The comments that are made in the locker room by this coach following certain situations and injuries are so appalling, one cannot imagine how this person could be trusted to continue in this position. And to top it all off Coach Verti has the audacity to be arrogant about his ignorance. When will he grow up? When will he learn?

God help us for these next two games and as many season as the administration keeps Coach Verti.

Mike said:

This will be my last and final comment on the cancers that fester “in some� of the local JAA programs.

For those of you who are considering that route next year with your son or daughter, you have two options available to you. You can hope to hell you get a coach like Mr. Rodriquez or you can take a chance and end up with guys like “Bleedsblungold�.

Kind of funny how “BleedsBlungold� mentions his buddies that coach in the Pico Rivera JAA program. That’s the place where the drunken adults went “Chernobyl� and started a big ole fight right in front of the kids. Here’s a web address to that National story from CBS. (Sorry Aram I searched for that archived story on the “Trib� but came up short)

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/17/national/main526029.shtml

That was interesting too. In researching for this liittle rant of mine here I did some Google searches to see how many positive stories about the JAA experience some have had. There aren't that many as opposed to the negative ones.

So it’s up to you folks, gamble on finding a leader like Mr. Rodriquez whom are a rarity, or take your chances and put your kids developmental years around the likes of a “Bleedsblungold�.

With “BleedsBlungolds� meltdown here the choice seems pretty clear to me…I wouldn’t want to take that chance.

Well got to go…Have to get my kids off to their cotton ball sculpturing class, then off to their paper doll cutting class, and then on to archery range.

Good Night Now!

Mike the Clone

Bill Adams said:

Bleedsblungold and SGV Football and everyone discussing coaches..

Unfortunately, there are alot of bad coaches in the system and some good ones.

The reality of coaching wheather it's pop warner, Junior All-American football, or High School, is that "Players and Parents" cannot pick their coaches.

The youth programs rely on volunteers and sometimes you get some great ones, but usually its DADS on the field with limited knowledge. Its not their fault its just the way the system is.

I truly believe every youth league and high school program some MANADATE coahes clinics to help teach all coaches better field skills and people management skills. Knowledge creates confidence that transcends into learning for all.

It is what it is, so everyone justs tries to make the best of the situation. However, lately the news has reported some pretty sad situations of Fathers going off on officials, and kids.

It is my opinion, and my opinion only that something in this country needs to change. The parents are out of control and truly are not leading by example.

VAN EARL SMACK said:

Good Morning Gents

Tommy T & Da Bears.....you guys are hilarious. Hey Da Bears, obviously, if you are sending messages at 12:30 in the morning, you have no life. By the way, Rowland played a stellar game against Walnut. Small showed the grit & strength that he is made of and Norys showed alot of guts for going back into the game after he just about fractured his thumb. He even made a nice catch and continued to dominate on Defense.

The Coaches finally put together a solid game plan, but P. Chase will not lead them thru CIF. I'm not saying they abandon the pass, but he clearly can not see the whole field. There were several receivers open again, and he only opts for #11. Advice for Philip...you have others who can catch the ball. Be patient and see the field.

The run game was solid and will carry them and the D' was AWESOME! Hey Joey Chase, lighten up! You are a good young player who has to show better Sportsmanship. Handing the ball to the other player in the end zone after a TD is not what Rowland is all about. The Coaches should have benched you for the rest of the game to send a message. Hopefully you will learn from that mistake.

Rowland can't overlook Wilson for West Covina. The Coaches need to make sure they are focused and take one week at a time. NO LET DOWNS!!

Van Earl wishes all of you a Happy Halloween. Out!

Frustrated said:

West Co there is a definate problem in your line.offense and defense.some of your jv players can block and tackle better than your varsity.you really need to re evaluate. come on bulldogs you have been in this situation before and won cif. lets do it again.stop playing favorites and lets get some hitters out there.just because some players are big doesnt mean they can block.lets get some smart players out there.you have real talent out there use it..im not talking about your whole 1st string offense and defense but about 40 percent you need to take a look at.your quarterback obviously needs more time maybe he will stop throwing interceptions.he has a great arm but just needs help..and on one last note bring back the huddle.its seem they know our plays when you give the signal...it isnt working fix it....

bleedblungold said:

Henry Rodriquez hey man no sweat here I know your a good coach and a really nice guy. I am only talking to the wanna be who originally made this asinine comment about youth coaches being flunkies, apparently he calls himself a clone not a real stant up guy.

In all due respect no one is even talking at you bro, its this self proclaimed authority on youth football coaches, and please what game were you at in what city, speak up man who , or what staffs are a joke, please let us know so we can keep our kids out of that program.

And I hope next season you put your name on a coaches application so we can get to see a real youth coach in action. I bet your one of these guys who asks his wifes permission for his coaching moves and probably got trown out because of something she did, or maybe you were in a program and helped undermine your old coach to get his coaching position, hey maybe not just wondering what the hell your spouting off about, crickets in backround.

And on high school coaches showing up at youth games, do you have any idea how many phone calls are made to the C.I.F everytime a Greg Gano or a Tim Salter, Rollingson, step on a field to watch a game, just a little inside info knuckles one of the winningest coaches in our area is regularly denying alligations of recruting and scouting at youth games and he hasnt been to a pop warner game in years, just because someone thought they say him at a game.

Any way I can tell by your apology you know your ignorant now, but i better see MIKE the CLOWN coaching or helping out somewhere next season.

Jim Garrison said:

Aram,

I did not mean to say you had "inked" them in yet. You said you didn't know the division well and everybody you had spoken to had already penciled Covina in. I wanted to let you know, since I've actually seen some of the other teams in the division, that you shouldn't make the same mistake they had by assuming Covina is gonna make it there without any problems other than against Oak Park.

And yes Aram, as much as it pained me to, I did read what you wrote.

da bears said:

tommy t,
i refuse to get into it with you. i know what ive heard and i know what you have said. they both match. and you saying, "hes got to get at least two tonight, he needs two touchdowns tonight" also isnt headed in the team direction. if you dont remember what you said, then well, there is only one reason for that. it was posted earlier in the site. pick up a water one time guy.aram, whats the rule/law on drunk fans on a high school campus? what are you going to do, fight everyone who rolls there eyes at you? what are you biff? are you the bully on the block? man, hope your nephew doesnt look to you for guidance. im done with this. keep it up aram. there are some great blogs and some people who actually know what they are talking about, then there is the monday morning quarterbacks(tommy t) who think the team will only be successful by running the ball to one player. now its past my bed time so i am out.

kab said:

SINCE WE HAVE GLENDORA,DAMIAN AMAT AND ROWLAND BLOGGERS ON THIS SITE. WHO IS THE BEST OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE PLAYERS ON EACH TEAM? JUST ONE PLAYER ON EACH SIDE, AND COULD GO BOTH WAYS.

H. Rodriguez said:

I would like to make an apology to all JAA coaches who might have or will read my response to Mike the Clone’s statement on this blog. It was not my intention to single out any particular youth Organization at all. With all youth sports there have been a fair share of incidents including football that have made headlines that I’m sure most have had an opportunity to witness. The comment I made was in response to my personal experience as a Youth coach with a group of individuals that are currently playing at GHS and San Dimas. Bleedblungold, I would be more than interested in meeting with any of the coaches in all the programs you mentioned, as I am sure I would benefit from all of their knowledge. As a coach it is my responsibility to continue to grow in knowledge. Again, I want to make it very clear, I did not intend to offend anyone who volunteers their time freely to a sport that they are very passionate about coaching.

TommyT said:

Just for the record, I have never yelled at a kid at a Rowland Game except to say I'll take five dollars worth of 50/50 tickets. Yelling to throw the ball to someone is pointed towards the coaches. By the way Da Beers, it is a sporting event and I didn't challenge Buck to a fight. But if you keep rolling your eyes then your next. Lighten up and cheer loud for the Team. They will win it all this year. Tommy T and I'm late for dinner. OUT

kab said:

JUST A TOP TACKLES LIST WOULD BE FINE

unknow said:

lets see a top ten linebacker list!!!!!!!!!!!

Plaid Man said:

Raider Tommy, Rowland has a very nice team...a very good team in your division. But Glendora's schedule is nothing close to Rowland's. We just blasted a "Dairy team" that blasted (shut out!) a Don Lugo team that was one of your "tougher" opponants (and hung 23 on you). You gave us a great game, but we still beat you in YOUR house. Also beat Covina & Charter Oak and a blow out of a Duarte team that is very solid in their division as well. We GHS fans are feeling good right now because we see that our team seems to be finally playing to it's full potential (or getting close), more so than in any of those wins mentioned above (and especially in losses to Damien & DI Capo Valley). It has us hopeful for a CIF appearence that may be memerable. Realistically, we'll get a match up with a top 3 seed on the road if we get in, but if you want to go deep, you've got to beat the best anyway, so bring it on. And I disagree with a couple others that Pasque's program can only go so far. There are even better seasons ahead the next few years, I believe, with many talented underclassmen getting valuable experience this year, especially on D. But this year is what matters right now, and yes, I'm pleased with this year so far. I expected us to be a bit down this year, but the coaches and players on this team deserve credit for rising to a level at least equal to last year. Go Plaid Men

BUCK said:

A couple of thoughts by BUCK:
I believe the end of the Junior All-American season got cancelled last year due to coaches fighting, what's that teaching. Mr Rodriguez and "Mike the Clone" are right! when they say good coaches get lumped in with the bad. The bad always get more publicity. Personaly, I believe when the game, (yes,it's a game) stops being fun, it's time to get out. Unfortunatley, the game stops being fun for a lot of kids who's skill and development levels would had been reached in later years and never played passed the age of 12.
On public verses private, hopefully parents are making decisions based on education first, In reality, I would say that's less than half. I think it's sad when families put all their eggs in the college scholorship basket for sports only. Wasn't there some kid in Covina or West Covina who bounced back and forth between schools for football and baseball. I believe he made the Tribunes All Valley 1st team, hell, a lot of guys could be 1st team if they picked and choosed their teammates. I wonder how the 2nd and 3rd team guys felt. I think there was another one at Muir HS not long ago, who was at a private and went to public. If I am correct, the kid led the lead in passing (Muir was always known for the running game) but didn't win very often. Me, I would rather fight along side the buddies I grew up with, win or lose!
Hey, I hope you guys don't mind if I jump on the "OUT" bandwagon late.

BUCK......OUT!!!!

SGV Football said:

Mike, while I enjoy reading your blogs, I am quite disgusted by your most recent and arrogant bashing in your labeling of most JAA coaches as mere "wanna be coaches flunkies" on a High School Football Blog.

What prompted this misguided rant? Perhaps this your way of payback because your 11 year old boy is not getting enough playing time because he sucks? Or maybe your kid quit because he couldn't handle the yelling and screaming part? It's not outrageous but part of the sport. It's not all about winning but learning through your mistakes by getting yelled at, which is part of the disciplinary process.

Make no mistake, there are some "bad" coaches in JAA, however, their dedication and volunteer work should outweigh any negativity. Unless these coaches are paid for their time and performance and unless you are ready to step in and replace yourself with a "bad" coach, you are in no position to pass judgement on these unselfish community volunteers.

These coaches should all be honored for giving up their free time, for their efforts and dedication regardless of their experience or lack off.

Mike your negative assessments are way off my friend.

Maybe your kid should try out for soccer or archery.

bleedsblungold said:

Come on dude stop kissing *** and give some facts or something, did you play for hitchcock or not. And if you didnt where did you get your info from.

And be a stand up guy thousands are reading, you called most youth coaches FLUNKIES, based on what info, where did your kid play or for whom, lets go champ when did you fill the need to berate all the youth coaches, and once again why. PLease why do this, is this where you hang out, at parks scouting youth coaches and rating them or what, kind of strange to me I hope your not on some web sites little blue dot.

Or maybe you want to sell some type of coaching seminar to all the flunkies out there, I mean now its kind of wierd you go on a high school blog and say hey all you guys out there guess what youth football coaches in this valley are flunkies, and I love mr rodriquez because he sounds nice, and bleedsblungold is an a hole because he took offense to that, man your a real work of art dude.

Come on sport where did you play and what are you after, ill tell you what why dont we get together this weekend and I will personely escort you to all the different cities in the valley we can start at Pico Rivera and some of my buddies coach there and you can tell them they suck or least most of them do and then we will go over to Montebello and then West Covina and then maybe Duarte or where everelse you like, and then next weekend we will go over to Yorba Linda popwarner (ESPERANZA)feeder, and LaHabra, oh yeah we can stop off at Hacienda popwarner and you can tell the national champion runners up that they suck to, oh yeah and there is a guy in the valley that coaches in the pcc coference that has almost every leader in every area in the tribune or the pasadena star that has played for him sometime in the past five or six years as a youth ball player, and possibly three or four true freshmen out of his program playing on someones varsity this season, but just another flunkie, and finally petros papadakis has an uncle that coaches a youth team and every year makes a run for the national title, we can stop and have a meeting with them also hopefully they will be as open and have thier stuff together as mr rodriquez out there sport.

I really would be dissapointed if you really are a youth coach actiong like a kid, and hiding behind a computer to put youth coaching down. SAD.

tupacisalive said:

and i quote. "Mike the Clone,

If you want playoff football to be a part of your annual Thanksgiving, then become a Charter Oak or South Hills fan. Hahahaha.

Just kidding, man. Sorry."
funny stuff. that was a good laugh.
but also true.
west co got shut down.


MATMTWTBAG said:

LUVTHISGAME,

SO ND is the best team in the Serra league. Only Crespi has a chance at beating them. If they are running up the score to where they are playing their reserves in the 4th quarter, it is just rest for the starters for next game. Well Amat is next for this SO ND team and if we have proven anything at Amat this year it is that we cannot stop a good running back. I guess we will be chasing Brown all nite....then the comment that Loyola got outcoached..hmmmmmmmm ??. All we have to hold on to this season is a third place (win one game in league) game vs Loyola. other then that it is SO ND and Crespi moving on to the playoffs. If Brown is a Junior I guess we will be seeing him again next year....Save that tape Verti it will come in handy next year....Is it July yet???

LUVTHISGAME said:

ATTN:ARAM and AMAT FAITHFUL

This article was in LA Times speaking of Sherman Oaks Notre Dame and their win over Loyola and being in the PAC-5. Pay close attenion to what ND RB Brown had to say. Even Loyola's coach admitted they were outcoached....

ARTICLE

Kevin Rooney was talking this week about efficiency.

"We've been efficient," the coach of Sherman Oaks Notre Dame said, "but not as efficient as we'd like to be."

Friday night was a healthy step toward perfection for the Knights, who scored on their first five possessions and dominated their Serra League opener for a 42-6 victory over Los Angeles Loyola at East L.A. College.

In a four-team league that receives two automatic qualifying berths into the playoffs, Notre Dame (8-0, 1-0) — ranked No. 3 in the Southland by The Times and No. 1 in the Pac 5 Division — played as if it wasn't taking any chances. It scored on its first offensive play and needed just eight plays for three scoring drives.

"This is a must-win game, but it's not do-or-die," Loyola Coach Jeff Kearin said beforehand.

Well, now it's do-or-die. Loyola, the Division I champion a year ago, plays next week against No. 20 Crespi in the realigned league. Only Loyola and La Puente Bishop Amat were in the league last year; Notre Dame moved from the Division III Mission League and Crespi moved from the Division X Del Rey League.

Loyola (4-4, 0-1) was overmatched from the moment Kelly O'Brien's second pass was intercepted by Jordan Barrett and returned five yards to the Cubs' 30. Thaddeus Brown then ran untouched 30 yards for a score.

"This was my best game ever," said Brown, a junior who was out of step this season because of a foot injury. "We've been reading letters on the Internet, that moving up to D1 [Pac 5] we'd get killed, that it's not like D3. We proved them wrong."

Brown ran 54 yards on his third carry of the game for another score.

It got worse for Loyola as the Knights' Dayne Crist, in his second start since suffering two cracked vertebrae in the opener, had a high-scoring night. Crist passed for three touchdowns and ran in from one yard for another. He connected with Hayden Hunter for 14 yards, Shane Horton for 44 and Chris Burghdorf for eight.

"They showed up and we didn't," Kearin said. "We got outplayed and outcoached. I don't think there's a lot of respect for our program right now, but their ability to shut us down on all three sides of the ball speaks highly of their program."

Brown finished the half with 12 carries for 131 yards, and had 19 carries for 163 yards in the game.

Crist connected on six of his first seven passes for 111 yards, and finished eight for 18 for 127 yards. The Knights built leads of 21-0 after one quarter, 35-0 after two and 42-0 after three. The starters sat out the fourth quarter.

Mike Stanton had two interceptions for Notre Dame, and Hunter had two sacks. The defense limited Loyola to 24 yards rushing in 19 carries, and four Loyola players combined to complete 20 of 43 passes for 163 yards. The most effective was Ryan Nelson, who was six for eight for 65 yards in a mop-up role that led to the Cubs' only touchdown, an eight-yard run by Justyn Williams with 4 minutes 8 seconds remaining.

"I don't know if that affects how they think," Rooney said of seedings for the playoffs. "There's a lot of very good teams in the division. The only reason we're No. 1 is because we haven't lost."

And could they be beaten on Friday?

"Sure," Rooney said.

By whom?

"I don't know."

ND sounds like a pretty confident team and with good reason.

Aram said:

Jim Garrison,

Did you read what I wrote? I doubt it. Here it is again for you.

"Everyone I've spoken to already has Covina penciled in to be playing Oaks Christian in the finals. I wish I knew what the rest of the division looked like. It seems to me that if Covina is the No. 2 seed, they'll probably have to play Oak Park to get there. I wouldn't go too crazy on postseason projections for the Colts yet because the rest of the division is a question mark that nobody can answer."

Where in that statement did I "ink" Covina in for the finals?

Bring on the Bullring said:

Bravo Mike and Mr. Rodriguez, you guys were right on the money. Maybe you two should consider teaching a seminar here in the SGV to some of our current HS coaches as well.

By the way Blu,
I know the AMAT players would love to put Verti in that bullring of yours. The coaches are causing all of their problems. They play favorites and the best players are not playing in their positions.
This team has had the players to win this year from the start. We have players who already have many recruiting letters for positions coach V wont play them in.
We have players with family members or position coaches that have played and were very good in those positions at AMAT and the next level that coach V wont play them in.
We have players that were standouts in college camps in their respective positions and coach V wont play them.
We have many players coach V has lied to about playing them in a game or getting quality playing time to contribute, and still coach V hasnt played them.
These are all guys that can play at this level and the next.

Jim Garrison said:

A couple of notes...

Sadly I had to be at the homecoming game for the school I work at (let's not even comment on this one... I could make money selling paper bags for the fans this year, we've been that bad) so I missed Rowland's homecoming game. Rowland is on a roll and when your only loss comes against a good Glendora team by 1... this is probably the best team since '95 (I think that was the team that was seeded #2 and was upset by Serra... not sure) and probably better than them.

Aram, while you can ink in Oaks Christian in the finals (and winnign it) you might hold off on Covina. They're very good and have a chance but they have to watch out for both Serra and Harvard Westlake out of the Del Rey League. Westlake's already beaten Carson.

Did anybody see the SO Notre Dame/Loyola score? I thought Notre Dame would win, I didn't think it would be over in the first half.

what a joke! said:

bleedblungold you are totally out of line on this one.That clone is right on with his comment on popwarner football. If you were anywhere near a junior game I'd be wooried. You made yourself to look like a total jack ass.

WOW said:

kab

RELAX!

kab said:

mn31
YES, I SAW. ONLY AFTER COACH MORE-IS-ON NOTICED THAT D-BAR 2ND STINGERS ALREADY WERE IN THE GAME. DHS HAS A GREAT TEAM YOU SHOULD DIS MANTLE CHINO HILLS COACH SHOULD RUN UP THE SCORE AND STATS ON THESE KIDS. THEY ARE MORE COCKY THAN DHS.

mn31 said:

kab i guess u didnt hear about them vs diamondbar when coach took out all the 1st stringers by half time

mn31 said:

kab i guess u didnt hear about them vs diamondbar when coach took out all the 1st stringers by half time

Mike said:

Mr. Rodriquez my hat is off to you sir. You know the deal. And have it all in perspective.
Thank you sir for the time and dedication that you have provided these young men.

You are correct Mr. Rodriquez and I should have been more clearer NOT all JAA coaches are "Flunkies". It's just too bad that for every good guy like you there are the "BleedsBlungolds" of the world that tarnish the image. Again thank you Mr. Rodriquez too bad many of us associate those programs with guys like "Bleedblungold"

Just look at his rant, you honestly want your kids around someone like that. Well not my kids!

"Bleedblungold" thanks for expanding on my earlier post. Your rant couldn't have done a better job at making my point exactly about some JAA coaches run-a-muck. You should take some notes from Mr.Rodriquez's playbook. He obviously is a leader.

Out!

Mike the Clone

please said:

Please anyone have any extra lineman that west covina can use for the next two games, or some smelling salt so they can WAKE UP!!!!!!!!! come on you got to get MEAN this is how football games are won............................ PRACTICE HARD ALL WEEK AND IT WILL SHOW ON FRIDAY GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO NEED I SAY MORE........... DAM....

kab said:

I WOULD HARDLY THINK THAT DHS IS A CLASS AND RESPECT KINDA TEAM. 4TH Q AGINST GHS TIME RUNNING OUT DHS LEADING 30-13 STILL PASSING THE BALL, KICKER COMES IN KICKS THE GAME RUN UP THE SCORE FIELD GOAL. THAT IS A FIRST IMPRESSION I GET WHEN I HERE COACH MORE-IS-ON. MORE POINTS ON THE BOARD, INSTEAD OF 2 STRINGERS. STATS DO MEAN ALOT. ARAM PLEASE SHOW US THE STATS AS REQUESTED. DHS LOSS TO STJ BOS & LA QUOTE IS GIVE IT UP FOR YO TEAM. DONT SAY IT INTO CIF.

AMATaddict said:

Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents on AMAT:

I agree with the majority on this blog that this season is pretty much over. It is time to look toward the future.

The overall defense has been below average at best this year. The run D has been horrible.It should be scrapped along with the D Coordinator. The players are there, just not put in the best position to make plays. I must acknowledge that the secondary has improved from the start of the season.

The offense has been subpar. Dorian Wells was the biggest bright spot along with McBride and Bonilla. But the overplaying of Wells has limited his overall effectiveness. Wagner needs to see some time on the O side of the ball. The O line needs a major shake up and refocus. The QB position should be looked at also. Platoon the 2 junior QBs Tamayo and Tillis in practice and in the final games and start the competition for next year now, they will be the experienced returners under center next year. With the receivers, start throwing the ball in game and see if there are any potential playmakers in the bunch. AMAT has not faced a team this year that was great at defending the pass, Carson was probably the best at it. #29 Lopez made a great catch this last game.

Special teams must find a consistant punter and long snapper. The kicker has been good.

GO LANCERS-LETS MAKE THE MOVES TO MAKE A RUN IN 08

AMATaddict said:

Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents on AMAT:

I agree with the majority on this blog that this season is pretty much over. It is time to look toward the future.

The overall defense has been below average at best this year. The run D has been horrible.It should be scrapped along with the D Coordinator. The players are there, just not put in the best position to make plays. I must acknowledge that the secondary has improved from the start of the season.

The offense has been subpar. Dorian Wells was the biggest bright spot along with McBride and Bonilla. But the overplaying of Wells has limited his overall effectiveness. Wagner needs to see some time on the O side of the ball. The O line needs a major shake up and refocus. The QB position should be looked at also. Platoon the 2 junior QBs Tamayo and Tillis in practice and in the final games and start the competition for next year now, they will be the experienced returners under center next year. With the receivers, start throwing the ball in game and see if there are any potential playmakers in the bunch. AMAT has not faced a team this year that was great at defending the pass, Carson was probably the best at it. #29 Lopez made a great catch this last game.

Special teams must find a consistant punter and long snapper. The kicker has been good.

GO LANCERS-LETS MAKE THE MOVES TO MAKE A RUN IN 08

bleedsblungold said:

Well now here is something new an actual attempt at being a critic on youth football in our valley, how interesting that you should spout such statements , very brutal I am led to believe that you are a better coach than all the Jr all american, or pop warner guys out there.

Surely you must be in order to make such a great statement, before we get any further we can wager or gentlemens a little game in spring four pop warner coaches i know against any four coaches in the bottom three slots of the three best leagues in our area, flag 8th graders against any 8th graders in your area, passing league rules, you can also take a team and we shall see just how good of a coach you are. We can call it a charity match.

What in the world gives you the right or even the idea that you can bad mouth a guy who makes no money and spends possibly 20 to 30 hrs a week planning and coaching to only have some parent berate his efforts over an open forum such as this.

I find it hard to believe that you actually got a football ride, and have such little respect for the rest of the game, nonesence at least back it up with some sort of facts prior experience or something, rather than just I think, or the great and noble "just my opinion", thats right squirt, your opinion is like my a*% h$#e,

And finally calling these guys flunkies, i mean what happened did some popwarner coach get to you when you were little or something, and to back up your statement you didnt even play the freaking game when you were little, so how would you know what its like, there are thopusands of little guys out there having a great time and lots of great memories, just a note pea brain there are thousands of kids who will never be high school stars or even touch a field on varsity a level but who can still enjoy and play a great game before everone pases them in size, were not all giants like you.

And by the way what are you doing to help the game and to help the community thru football , or are you a soccer coach, or maybe your a asistant on some varsity squad and got there because of some friendship, or because your mamma is in tight, or by the way nacho there are many varsity coaches in our valley who started down in the little leagues as like you like to call them FLUNKIES.

Next time your mouth and finger go berzerk try helping out in your local communities and some program and raising funds, cleaning fields, coaching and dealing with parents almost as self centered as you.

Hey fill free to respond with some info, and no excusses like i didnt mean to insult anyone, oh and by the way einstein this is a high school football blog.

kab said:

MTC

GHS MAY BE A WEE BETTER THAN LAST YEARS TEAM, AND THE INLAND LEAGE MAY BE A WEE OF A DOWN GRADE FROM THE RECENT YEARS OF CIF SEEDINGS, WITH THAT IN MIND GHS SHOULD WIN THE FIRST PLAYOFF GAME. NO MORE HART BREAKERS. COME ON GHS IS NOT THE LITTLE HOME COMING QUEEN BITCH AS ONE WRITER PUT IT ANY MORE. COACH P GOT GHS THIS FAR DONT WRITE HIM OFF JUST YET. GHS NEEDS HIM THE KIDS BELIEVE IN HIM AND SO DO I.

Henry rodriguez said:

Mike The Clone, I will agree with you on your one point about JAA being poorly coached. Obviously you are Temple City transplant as are many Glendorians, so whether or not you played youth football for Temple City or Rosemead, most certainly you were witness to a great High School Head coach who believed that the JAA was vital to the success of his High School program. That is why he knew all his coaches and they all followed his program. If more HS coaches would take the time to be visible, show some interest in their JAA program, they just might and this is a big “just might� benefit from that PR later down the road.

My greatest fear as a High School/JAA coach has always been the after effect or lasting impression that I would have or leave with any youth player I coach. No one person can claim passion or commitment to a group of individuals unless they have shared time with them on the battlefield. One can be a loyal fan, a huge supported and in your case their voice on this blog.

I on the other hand Sir, am proud to say was their JAA Head Coach. I was witness to their growth and development; I am privileged (every Friday night when I get the chance to come out and watch them play) to have the opportunity to watch quite a few of those 9,10,11 year olds (as you called them) battling under the lights.

When players are introduced to football at a young age and are coached well, taught the fundamentals of the game, taught to play with emotion, passion, desire, courage, commitment and most importantly understand the meaning of word Teamwork, then Mike you will have a solid program. Players do benefit from playing JAA, don’t believe me, just walk around the Junior and Sophomore class of players and ask them about their experience in JAA with Coach Rodriguez and you’ll have your answer (and if you get a chance shoot by San Dimas and ask Nico Barbone)

Youth coaches are very important to the development of athletes; it’s just a shame that so many of us who make the commitment and coach with great passion, get covered over with the same blanket of so many bad coaches out there walking around clueless.

That’s my take Mike and “I’m out�

joe said:

dabears.
what is your real name are you afraid to tell let it fly lol jk,Dude tommy t was not there this week but to tell you the truth i don't think hes that bad he's really is a good guy just very in to the game and winning and all that good stuff,if people don't like him tell them to wear air plugs and i don't think hes said anything about any kid ever that is bad hes not like that,he just don't like the way the coaches coach and thats his own thing. I don't think people don't mine seating by us because, im there idle they all want to be the number one fan, hey but thanks for the comment about my son im pretty dam proud of him and his hand well be allright just sore and also to let you know tommy-t has only been to about 4 games this yr.

Tommy T said:

Rowland pounds on another opponent and the rest of the Blog is still living the 1 point Glendora win.
C'mon Glendora, This is Football season not Basketball. Mike the Clown and Uncle Little Bucker and FAN in the attic and High School Fem and Plaid Girdle Man. Take off the skirts and wake up hypocrites. The last 2 weeks all you guys have been doing is bashing your team and coaching staff. You beat a dairy Team and now you have the greatest coaches and the best kids. Your a 1st round looser if you win another game. Why don't you jump on the Rowland Band Wagon and bring along the Rankings guy before it's too late. He must wear a plaid dress if he still has Glendora ranked above Rowland. Joe, I see that you can't spell but your a dam good Waldo, I mean Welder. Rowland is the bomb and so is JW North 7-0. When you fellas want to see some real football let me know, I'll buy you a ticket. We'll see you all at the Home Depot Center, I'll be in the stands yelling at the coaching staff and you all will be selling programs or directing traffic or maybe if your lucky you'll be pouring cheese on my nachos. This is Tommy T and I am out of the SGV and over to Riverside. Late !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dabears dabears dabears dabears said:

joe, you are a pretty funny guy now that you let everyone know your sarcastic. its hard to get the sarcasm through a computer screen. i see you at the games. we should call you super fan. always the first guy in the stands man. gotta hand it to you. that or you are waiting for the snack bar to open. haha, now that was sarcasm. im kidding with you man. you seem like a cool guy, and your son is one hell of a player. hows his finger or hand? one question. how come tommy t was so quiet this week? was it because rowland had the biggest crowd theyve had in years? or was it because smalls was running wild? whatever it was, lets keep it that way because it is just flat out annoying. i hope it was because there were so many fans. if you were quiet tommy because he was doing well, then that is just sad. if your going to be loud, be loud positively. seriously, try it. dont say you havent ever said anything either to the players because i have heard you yell "pitch the ball ____, pitch the ball to (insert nephew name here), get your head in the game _____. the quarterback for rowland goes where the lines are for all you outsiders. its like freight train said, yelling and screaming is fine, to an extent. it really bothers alot of people around you. rolled eyes, and people moving away from you should tell you that. just think about it and dont challenge me to a fight like you did buck. lets grow up and have some self respect huh. just something to think about. as raider fans, lets rally around the boys, put everything behind us because from this blog, it seems like we are the most disfunctional family with a 7-1 record. the kids work to hard for us (the parents) to be acting like this. now im out

RAIDERS

LA kid said:

LA is coming back.

check the scores to the games and tell me LA isnt a good team.

they just havent had there heads in the game or something.

Mike said:

Oh Man..........getting smacked by the host.........eeerrrrrrrrrrrr. That's whack! Your just lucky your not "fish wrap". That was a sweet smack on this local Clone ! Thanks again for this forum.

Damn it..I'll take it like a man.

Good Night Now "Aram Van Smack"

Mike the Clone

Aram said:

Mike the Clone,

If you want playoff football to be a part of your annual Thanksgiving, then become a Charter Oak or South Hills fan. Hahahaha.

Just kidding, man. Sorry.

Mike said:

Come on Buck and KAB,

Are you guys really happy with being mediocre?

KAB you seem sensible rethink the comment "BELIEVE IT! COACH P KNOWS WHAT HES DOING" at times it seems he does But most of the times that statement is laughable.

Buck, you seem to know (at times) what your talking about but come on 6-4,8-2,and 7-3 in a coaches fourth year you find that acceptable and especially at Glendora. Come on Buck your getting soft like KAB and the rest of the "button wearers" honks. Quit lowering the bar. Are you willing to accept a "let's just get there" and a one and out appearance again?..... I want to be sitting at Thanksgiving dinner talking about how we whooped so and so's ass and won the whole thing.

Sorry I'm not willing to accept where we are at. These kids deserve it and worked for it. Now get me someone who can get me there.

Out!

Mike the Clone

kab said:

BELIEVE IT! COACH P KNOWS WHAT HES DOING. THIS IS NOT JR AA YOU CANNOT BUY YOUR KIDS PLAYING TIME.( NOT REFERING TO #8)COACH P USED HIM WHEN HE HAD TO IN THE HART CIF GAME.

kab said:

COACH P KNOWS HIS TALENT, HE IS TRING TO PLAY THEM.MOST OF NEXT YEARS TALENT WERE PLAYING IN THE 4TH Q OF THE CHINO GAME.THEY ARE 2&3 STRINGERS. OK 2 STRINGERS THAT ARE GOING TO START NEXT SEASON. THOSE WHO WERE NOT OUT THERE BETTER PRACTICE HARDER,AND KEEP THIER HEADS UP.

BUCK said:

A few comments on fellow blogger comments.
I do not remember Edmond that much from last year, a few reverses and kick offs, that's it. Have any of you met this kid? very soft spoken, gentle type guy who does not use a four letter word in every sentence. His MOM should be very proud of this extreamly nice young man. I could say that about a lot of Glendora players I've met.
Oh No, here I go again agreeing with "the clone" I do not like little kid tackle football either, I think a lot of kids get burned out before they reach their potential. Oh well, I don't think you will change a junior all-american parents mind on this, Those kids are to young to lift weights, at least flag teaches some skill.
It is hard to complain about Coach"P", even though I do, sometimes. I believe he has been 6-4,8-2 and 7-3 since coming to Glendora, not a bad record. I remember when we were everyones "Homecoming Bitch" before he came. Glendora fans might as well picked every schools homecoming queen, we were able to evaulate them because we had to sit through every schools crowning ceremony. The kids like him, that means a lot. Two more wins and they will make the playoffs for the third year in a row in a very tough league with a very tough preseason schedule. Keep it rolling Glendora!!

joe said:

if your going to post top players in there position don't look at maxprep sports stats there no way there right some of them are a joke coaches are suppose to send them in but you know kids get there password and send them in and im sure theres not many honest guys out there, and than if your rowlands staters they only play 3qtrs a game sometimes 2 and a half because thier blowouts.Besides its all about wins and winning league and than cif .

KUKLINSKI 34 said:

whats up great week of football!!!
SOUTH HILLS YEAHHHHH...
KINGS OF CAMERON...
WHOEVER SEEN THE GAME LAST NIGHT KNEW THAT OUR DEFENSE STEPPED IT UP BIG_TIME...OUR OFFENSE DID VERY WELL TOO DRIVING DOWN THE FIELD ON EVERY DRIVE...
GREAT JOB O-LINE OPENED UP SOME HUG HOLE FOR ME N EVAN...
THANKS FOR THE ARTICE ARAM. APPRICIATE IT.
OHHHH N LOL THAT WAS SALAZAR ON THE HOOK N LATTER FUMBLE LOL BUT ITS ALL GOOD!!!


NEXT WEEK: NOGALES

FOOTBALL4LIFE said:

YES ARAM PUT THE TOP QBS, TOP RCVRS, TOP WR'S, TOP LB'S AND ETC. IT IS GOOD TO GIVE THESE GREAT RECOGNITION FOR THEIR GREAT YEAR...
COME ON ARAM GET IT PRINTED IN THE PAPER LIKE YOU DO IN AUGUST FOR INCOMING PLAYERS GIVE SOME ATTENTION TO ALL THE TOP PLAYERS OF 2006 IN THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY WITH THEIR STATS PRINTED TO SHOW THE PUBLIC....THANKS ARAM

Mke said:

Aram,

Can you imagine if "Pasqie" used his third weapon Edmond last year?

Another missed opportunity by a coach who consistently misreads his talent.

Oh I know I’ll piss people off with that comment. But who cares!

Mike the Clone

Betty B said:

I was at the Bonita/CO game. It was a great game played by two good teams.

To say Bonita is the better team and would have won if not for their mistakes is grasping at straws. I look at it as Charter Oak is the better team because they made mistakes and still won the game.

Mike said:

For Once,

Thank you.

I may take heat here from the "status quo" Tartan "honks" but I truly love my "bagpiper" kids and I will ALWAYS fight for them.

These kids are a talented bunch, and they realize it the effort and time they have spent in the weight room, passing leagues and above all the classroom will NEVER be un-noticed by me. I have been around most of them for to long to have them short changed.

If what I say offends the "status quo honks" here at Glendora so be it. Someone has to be the ugly one might as well be me.

If I was a "Cardinal Roger Mafia" honk I'd fit right in and probably go about my rants un-noticed

I am very passionate about this group of kids!

Out!

Mike the Clone

Aram said:

Hola,

I was being sarcastic about Jordan Edmond. I covered G-High's game against Arcadia last year and Edmond scored on the first or second play. I was like "Where have they been hiding this guy?" But he never got the ball much after that. The weapons were Rodriguez and Bryan. But I think Edmond should've had more touches. From what I hear, he was being molded into a football player. What an excellent he's become.

for once.. said:

For once, I agree with you Mike..Nice commentary.

for once.. said:

For once, I agree with you Mike..Nice commentary.

west covina said:

if west covina is going to make it to the playoffs they need to get an offence and defence of line because they are WEAK...... there backs and recevers are good and the QB needs more time. what more can I say. NO LINE on both sides... oh yeah and STOP the daammm mistakes.... come on west covina get it together.. nothing wrong with going into the playoffs as an underdog.....

Mike said:

Just a Comment for what it's worth I think a lot of people put to much stock into the junior All- American football programs of today. Most of the junior All American football kids are coached by a bunch of wanna be flunkies who live through their kids and get off yelling at 9,10, and 11 year olds. Have you been to a game lately it’s outrageous?

I grew up in this valley and didn’t play tackle football until my freshman year in high school. And let’s just say football paid for my college education. I grew up around the Pop Warner programs of Temple City Rams, Rosemead Rebels to name a few and back in those days those programs were a grooming process to get into high school programs.

For example at Temple City, coach Hitchcock knew each and everyone of those coaches at the PW level. And each one of those guys had a TC playbook. And Temple City had great runs during the 70’s. I mean that was a dynasty over at T.C. and just a football factory.

I would never allow any coach at the Pop Warner level anywhere near my kid nowadays. Too many parents don’t teach the game anymore. To most it’s all about winning and at any cost. Most of those guy’s couldn’t pass a CIF coaches test to coach at the high school level just as a walk on coach.

AT THAT JUNIOR ALL- AMERICAN LEVEL IT�S ABOUT TEACHING THE GAME, NOT WINNING THE GAME………….capitals were intentional.

But back to Jordan, he will be just fine. He will probably end up at a J.C. first and will have to bulk up a bit if he goes to the next level. He has a pretty good shot at playing at a small D1 school if he chooses to play football. He is a well-spoken kid, and a gentleman and his family has done a heck of a job with him. And the "franchise" would be a definite asset to any program.

Flag football hasn’t hurt him one bit.

Out!

Mike the Clone


LUVTHISGAME said:

MATMTWTBAG,

You are absolutely right and I could not have said it better. The 4th quarter was ridiculous. AMAT was down by 3 scores and you don't attempt to throw the ball down the field once? I do not understand it. Like you said MATMTWTBAG, there is a bunch of talent just sitting, why not use it?

Lets face the facts:

#1 AMAT will likely lose to ND @ ND next week

#2 AMAT will likely miss the play-offs this year.

#3 AMAT COULD finish with a losing record.

#4 VERTI conceded the game late 3rd Qtr based
on the play calling through the remainder of
the game.

#5 VERTI has several Juniors he has not tested.

#6 VERTI needs to know what these Juniors can do
going into next season, so there are no
questions or speculation.

#7 VERTI and AMAT HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE NOW

No disrespect intended, but lets put all the BS aside Coach Verti and staff. Your season stategy did not work out, whatever the reason and now you have the UNIQUE opportunity to evaluate players that will be returning, IN ACTUAL GAME SITUATIONS and AGAINST QUALITY LEAGUE OPPONENTS. As a coach, you could not ask for a better way to obtain insight into what you will have to work with next season. This also eliminates the type of player controversy that existed all this season.

With Wells most likely out(our prayers are with him and his family) and Gaisie potentially making it back after a 6 week absence due to a broken ankle, these final 2 games will now tell us all a great deal about this "COACH" and what HE is made of. If he does not play these talented reserves, then we will all clearly see that he has no interest in the talent that he has available to him nor any true interest in the rebuilding of this storied program. It will only show that he is strictly about promoting his own agenda and not building a successful program. It will also show that he is a person who does not learn from their mistakes,maturing and growing from that process.

I am going to reserve my final opinion until after these 2 games. I truly hope he proves to be the type of leader he expects his players to be, for the sake of the "mighty young men" under him and the AMAT tradition.


Just Wondering AT... said:

Could we see like an updated top 10 of the big skill position players...

Top 10 QB's

Top 10 RB's

Top 10 WR's

Top 10 LB's

That would be really cool to see...

DHSdad said:

Do u wanna talk about class and respect read cu at the game's post above that is exactly what my son learns at pratice and for thehis comment on the reserves he's right Mark and Travis don't get that good over night it is the reserves and scout team in practice making them better and Hile and Lucero wouldnt be that good without the reserves and scout O pushing them in practce. And coach morrison has the faith in his assistants to play those reserves who arent gonna play much because they have been taught well by their position coaches, be there friday night 7 pm at chino high school to watch our boys and to quote a damien DB from class of 06 johnny bobe: GIVE IT UP FOR YO TEAM!

jordan said:

Yeah, Jordan is a very impressive player...He played mostly as a return man last year for Varsity...This year we have really seen what he is made of...Also, last year against Hart he was a huge part of us nearly upsetting the eventual runner-up in CIF...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56ruA6zKvMs&eurl=

Check that out!

mn31 said:

jordan edmond was just like every other junior at glendora on jv

and he also played behind brandon bryan at wr

jordan fan said:

Where was Jordan Edmond Last year? He played varsity at GHS. This is the kid who helped GHS get to the CIF last year by making the winning touchdown in the last 30 seconds of the Diamond Bar Game (GHS was in the position of having to win their last 3 games to get to the playoffs). Rumor is that Coach P was just not sure or comfortable with his skills since he was new to touch football. He did not play his Freshman year and was injured the first half of his Sophomore year. He played JV the first two games of his Junior year and moved up to Varsity. His only other experience in football was flag football in 8th grade in which I am told he was pretty good. Apparently this kid was a great soccer player but pursued basketball in which he played his Freshman year at GHS. He apparently did not fit into the GHS program. He also runs track which he started out in his Freshman year and is the top sprinter in the area. Jordan is what I consider a sleeper and will go far in Football provided he stays healthy. He is a great athlete with tremendous speed and great coordination. I only wish someone had worked with this kid in POp Warner. Great game Tartans. See you in CIF.

Aram said:

Dan,

I feel for you and the WestCo fans. I don't get it. I know the coaching is good. I know the talent is still pretty good, but not as good as it once was. Talking to people who have seen the Dawgs in recent weeks, they say the offense just can't get anything other than Wallace going. Remember, this team was up 19-0 against a very good Monrovia team at halftime. From then on, things have gone south. I still think WestCo will make the playoffs. I don't put them on the same level as Rowland or SH, who I think are very equal teams. It's got to be frustrating for everyone involved.

Rankings? said:

How bout these rankings?..

1.Damien(No doubt about it)
2.Covina(Give them credit, they've won the games they are supposed to win and Glendora hasn't.)
3.Glendora(Believe it!This team is no joke.They had Damien a little scared in their game despite playing bad and there is no need for naming the teams they have beat)
4.Rowland(this team is good.)
5.Los Altos(I know they have had some bad losses but they are a good team)
6.Charter Oak(How could I possibly have them ahead of LA after having beaten them....?LA is the better team,still)
7.South Hills(This team has a solid defense)
8.Bonita(I knew they'd repeat the way they did last year..)
9.Bishop Amat(This team is in disarray)
10.West Covina(OVERrated!)

popwarnerMOM said:

I AGREE, BEING AT THE CO GAME VS BO HI CO GOT LUCKY WITH THE CHAVEZ THREW THE INTERCEPTION TO #32 OF CO AND RAN FOR THE TOUCHDOWN...BONITA WOULD OF WON THAT GAME....

charter oak mom said:

The CO/Bonita game ended just as it should have. They didn't hold MJ back; we held Chavez back. The talk of him being the best QB in the Valley can stop now. Aram, you're right CO will end at 4 and 0 and again be league champs. Way to go Chargers, you all played a great game. Get healthy for next week.

joe said:

Aram,Don't get so mad i know you have and i thank you for that,im talking about those little storys you have that come out on tuesday and wed like the one on the qbs from sh and bonita and the wilson guys.Dude when i said your doing a good job with the blog and football coverage i meant it don't take things to heart im just playin with you.Thank you for all your coverage up to now i just think these kids are doing a hell of a job and i really don't think anyone well stop them at least i hope.

me said:

Well, the AMAT fans are obviously a little bit angry about the loss...It's cool, a lot like when Glendora was beaten by Damien pretty badly as well...I'm not sure how Amat played but I know Glendora fought hard against Damien but made some dumb mistakes that cost us in the end...

Anyway,Glendora fans have a right to be excited about us playing one of our best games of the year.We showed teams that we can pass some and now they will have to respect both levels of our offense...Expect Edmond to get a little bit of daylight now and really pour it on in the next two games...

MATMTWTBAG said:

Amat Game,

We got beat by the better team and our playoff picture looks slim and none. 14-14 halftime I too was pumped. Crespi came out the second half and most likely exploited something they saw in our defense in the first half. Our coaching staff did not make any adjustment to keep DJ Holt in check. It was a straight up game for Amats taking, but we have to play 4 qtrs. and again our 2 way starters were beat down in that last quarter. What good are our reserves if we are not going to use them to help give some rest to those starters that are going both ways. My Prayers to Dorian Wells. We are asking this kid to do too much and putting him at risk. Again our o-line was no where to be found. They got pushed around AGAIN!....ND has got to be a 3 touchdown favorite but upsets happen. I doubt it this time, ND is legit. I still cannot understand why our coaching staff did not empty the bench last nite during that 4th quarter collapse. the game was out of reach.. Coach Verti should let some reserves play in this situation.....what does he have to lose... his first season as head guy is in the record books, losing season , no playoffs, lots of player controversy, upset alumni and parents. I will be at the next two final games to support the team. This was not our year...A weak senior class. I am already envisioning this years junior class next year as seniors. We will be playoff bound next year. Hope Verti does a house cleaning and revamps his staff with some Experience around him because he is going to be senior talent loaded next year...Lets not miss our opportunity next year....this class of 2008 were league champs of the old Serra League as freshman. It will be payback time next year....stick a fork in us this year!

Mike said:

Clarification!

I meant "chin up guys" in my post to my pals at Amat.

Oh and thanks for correcting me "FANatic" nice to know you have my back. (Chuckle Chuckle) must be that warm milk I'm drinking.

See you at the thirty five yard line buddy!

Out!

Mike "I stand corrected" the Clone

Aram said:

Joe,

What are you talking about? You guys have been on the cover twice, against Glendora and South Hills. You guys got the video in your win over Cal Hi. Don't act like I'm ignoring you, because that's far from the truth.

ur worst knightmare said:

Congrats to Star-News' Andrew Campa!! He was the only man (1 out of 4) to predict ARROYO over rosemead at B.L Bergstrom Stadium.. GOOD JOB CAMPA! He also knew that rosemead cannot beat the Knights at ARROYO..not since 1990!

ur worst knightmare said:

Aram made a mistake by not going to the real game of the week - rosemead at ARROYO... the Knights filled the house (B.L Bergstrom Stadium)! Aram, if you were there I bet you would agree we had the loudest, most raucous crowd in the valley that night. This game will be remembered forever... Too bad you didn't think it was good enough for front page news..

GETREAK said:

BONITA HAD A GOOD GAME AND WOULD OF WON IF NOT FOR THE MISTAKES, AND THE INTERCEPTION THROW FROM CHAVEZ AND THE MISSED TACKLE FROM BONITA'S#9 WHICH LED TO A TOUCHDOWN AND FIELD GOAL....WHAT A KID 99 YARDS RETURN PLUS THE AWESOME RUNNING BY #5 WHO PUT THE TWO TOUCHDOWNS FOR THE BOHI TEAM LAST NIGHT...BONITA SHOULD HAVE WON THAT GAME BIG TIME....THEY HELD JOHNSON BIG TIME

FANatic said:

FANatic is in the house!

Mr. Clone, here you again attributing things that were never said. When did I say "pooch" kicking was a good thing. I'm hoping I don't have to continue to correct your remarks over and over again...waste of time. Talk about "saying stupid things"...whoooooooooooa. Lets get a reality check!

You are right about one thing, Glendora fans have been posting through thick and thin. Bleedblungold is wrong to think otherwise.

I've been here since the begining my friend (April). While I havn't been posting, I certainly have witnessed all that has been posted.

Just to turn the tables slightly,obvisiously Bleedblungold is a little sensitive about losing to teams they should be winning. Bad loss, I feel for you man!

Do I have to take on this whole blog!

Good luck to ALL SGV TEAMS, CIF is fast approaching!!!

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Mike said:

Joe,

That was a crack up about your spelling.

Good luck to you guys you keep getting better every week.

Mike the Clone!

Mike said:

Greetings,

I am Mike the Clone and you are not.

With that said:

“Bleedblungold� come on now my friend you and I have been around here blogging long enough to know that we both have some over zealous “honks� that go a little over the top sometimes and say some stupid things. I think in your rant you were giving a little smack to my buddy “FANatic� at least I hope you were. Hey let him gloat a little we have been through a lot this year.

Hell you think I have been quiet come on…. “Plaidman�, “Buck� and a few other kilt wearers have been here all along blogging about this and that about our “Bagpipers�.

So come on don’t take it out on all of us just some of us. You have to remember “FANatic� is the same guy that thinks having your kickoff team give opponents the ball on the 35 yard line every time is a good thing.

I feel your pain you just got spanked! I was there and it was close up until the third quarter. Crespi was is in another zone that second half.

Hey my Amat buddies I wore my Glendora football hat last night so I would stick out a little but nobody caught on to me. I hadn’t been back to Amat since we played you guys a couple of years ago.

One thing I was hearing in the stands was the grumbling about the coaching. Hey look, this guy is in his first year cut him some slack, at least give him a couple more years to implement his plan. Then if things don’t look any better after a couple of years then start your “whinching� and “moaning� over the coaching staff. Here’s a hint……….if he starts swapping quarterbacks every other series, starts calling weird timeouts and does some weird play calling and it doesn’t look like he has a game plan in weeks five and six of the season then start bitching.

And remember after asking around I heard you guys are pretty banged up too.

Oh well Bluorca, Bleedblungold, I had a great visit to your own little piece of the San Gabriel Valleys “Golden Dome�. Too bad it didn’t turn out like we wanted it too. Thanks for your hospitality.

Chin guys, we can only go up from here.

Out!

Mike the Clone

joe said:

HEY ARAM,
I think its time to do one of your speicial storys on rowland football 7-1 and asured no worse than co champs in league since 1992 thats pretty awesome.Dude give credit were credit is due but you probably won't because your afraid to come around rowland camp lol,coach synder might snap at you ahaha,aram ill still be your friend maybe you can interview me and i well interduce you to the hackler hahaha.
Man my spelling suxs but who cares i weld for a living.

CUatthegame said:

DAMIEN 35, Diamond Bar 3
Spartans you are on your way to CIF and you will be going as #1 team in the Sierra League. You just keep improving your game each week and your team spirit and togetherness is fantastic! Keep up the "go get 'em and win" attitude and you'll be playing more than just the two remaining league games (Chino and Chino Hills). Your school, family and friends are behind you all the way and you're making us proud. You can hold your heads high for your hard efforts but don't let the press and what others are saying give you BIG fat heads - remember, it isn't over until the fat lady sings as they say in show business.

It was great to see that Coach Morrison cares enough about his players that he let the second and third stringers play the whole second half. No telling what the final score would have been if the first stringers played the whole game like some schools do. You first stringers won't have the big stats like others in the league because you give up your "glory" points to your team mates so they can reap the benefits of having worked hard at practice like you.

Keep practicing hard, remember winning is GREAT but the sportsmanship you show on the field is what you are made of.

Gooooooooooooo....SPARTANS - on to V I C T O R Y!

What? said:

bleedblungold,

You have just discribed the Amat fans in your post re: Glendora fans. Come on!

bleedblungold said:

Interesting these so called fans of Glendora, loose one game and everyone calling for coaches head and then silence, then win a game your suppossed to and man thats all on the site nothing but Glendora fans, like if you won C.I.F. title or something.
Amat sorry to say dead in water, hate to have to admit it but they have a case of the U.C.L.A. disease only game that matters is to beat U.S.C.
while U.S.C. trying to win national title.
Seems Amat only concern is beating teams who beat valley teams,example St francis, Rancho etc.
Waiting for next week will be calling for coaches head again back to same old song and routine. Maybe St francis took us lightly and didnt think we could beat them like our excuse is going to be about Crespi.

Aram said:

Los Altos fan,

Personally, I'd have used the Shaun Cody card a few weeks ago. I guess LA can creep back into it with a win over Bonita on Friday. That's their last game of the season. Could Miramonte League standings look like this?

Charter Oak 4-0 (CO beats DRanch and Wilson)
Diamond Ranch 3-1 (DRanch beats Bonita)
Los Altos 2-2 (LA beats Bonita and Wilson)
Bonita 2-2 (Bonita needs to beat LA or DRanch)
Wilson 0-4

LOSALTOSFAN said:

Los Altos one the game against cross town rivals Wilson.

PLUS GOT A VISIT FROM SHAUN CODY!!!!

NOW THATS ALUMNI !!!!

GREAT GAME!!!

FANatic said:

FANatic is in the house!

BaselineAlum, you got to be kidding!

Im afraid the Tartans have always been a GOOD team this year, just a few slips here and there. It's been said over and over again, LOOK AT THE TARTAN WINS AGAINST TEAMS WHICH NOW LEAD IN THEIR RESPECTIVE LEAGUES. MOST OF THESE TEAMS ARE UNDEFEATED EXCEPT FOR THEIR LOST TO THE TARTANS. Lets look at the W/L records for oppossing teams against all other Sierra teams?

I know you are a Damien fan...me too. Coming from a 4th place finish in league last year to probably 1st this year, shows they really have put it together. But it makes me chuckle for Damien fans to say LA was somehow cursed or intimidated into a losing streak by BEATING Damien, now that is really living in Fantasyland!

Let the Tartan fans cheer on their team in peace, like all other fans cheer their team on this blog.

While you will probably be typing little "nasties",I will be cheering on our local teams Damien, Chino Hills and Glendora during CIF.

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as seen from the stands said:

the colts came to play !!!BP was tough for about 5 minutes ,the colts offense got rolling and never looked back,just to many weapons,the guys up front did a great job and should be given some credit, Mcd.got his six TDs because of those beasts in the trenches,one of the best offenses in the southern section ., arron harris not really a factor in this contest, the defense made sure of that, the colts defense is the real deal and will prove to be even greater in the playoffs .

Kit Carson said:

Aram,

I heard that Bluorca and MATMTWTBAG are on suicide watch this morning. Is that true?

There's a U.P.S. truck enroute from Crespi to BA H.S. They're returning Lancer jockstraps.

living legend said:

Please oh please dont ever put jeff chavez in the same breath as Mike Mcd! Come on 6 tds this evening....if that was not a statement to be backe to back mvp for the valley i dont know what will....oh and to be exact that is 33 touchdowns (rushing and throwing).....

iwasthere said:

arron harris got shut down....the colts turned the braves one dimensional.....i dont see any brave fans talking now.....

iwasthere said:

arron harris got shut down....the colts turned the braves one dimensional.....i dont see any brave fans talking now.....

ur worst knightmare said:

I dont think Duarte could dominate the MVL.. you have some very talented players indeed..ive seen'em twice this year...but i dont think they would beat ARROYO or rosemead by much if at all. It is well known that the majority of the montview league is horrible...downright terrible... and Duarte is spoiled to be in such a weak league. P.S. Crutchfield likes to run up the score on the montview teams like La Puente for example..two minutes left and up by 49 and still throwing the long bombs..?

ur worst knightmare said:

All I want for Christmas is to beat rosemead!!! We did, 27-23. YES! Thank you Singiser! The true Knight fans never ever lost faith in you. YOU ARE THE KING! Protecting the house (B.L.Bergstrom Stadium) from the evil panthers since 1990...All-time series record is now 29-18-1 in favor of ARROYO... next year will be win #30..GO KNIGHTS GO!

BaselineAlum said:

Nice to see our friends from Glendora have reentered Fantasyland... a win against Chino and all of a sudden the Tartans are supposed to be good again... notwithstanding the only two good teams in the Sierra beating Glendora, with Damien basically scoring at will.... Sorry, Tartan fans, you don't dramatically "improve" in two weeks... you just start playing easier teams....Wait until that 1st round matchup against some other league's champion....hopefully the Baseline League's!!!

whoa... said:

Whoa!I am a Tartan fan first and a Wildcat fan,second...(Monrovia)...After seeing Duarter get completely murdered by the two teams..I figured they were a horrible team..WOW, I was wrong..Congrats to those kids although I feel bad for them because the school and coaching have really let them down...Thos kids do have heart though.Congrats.

Dan said:

Nice game South Hills, you dominated us tonight, great job by your line as you pushed our Bulldogs around the whole night, if Rowland beat you by 10 I hate to see what they do to West co.

BigMLover said:

Aram...

Duarte would dominate the MVL this year... and make the playoffs out of the RHL. This Falcon team played the Cats well, and should have a decent showing in the Mid-Valley division.

Here's hoping for a rematch in the playoffs...

SGV Football said:

Someone forgot to tell Amat to play 4 quarters of football tonight. Played tight at 14-14 at halftime. Unfortunately for Amat, Crespi took full advantage against Amat's porous defense and came out firing on all cylinders scoring 3 unanswered TD's. Crespi's QB tore up the secondary and the defense went down hill from there. Kudos to Crespi for their speed and hard hitting. These kids came to play smash mouth football.

Dorian Wells took a scary spine chilling neck snapping hit at the end. Was down for a good 15 minutes on the field, but walked off. My prayers to him for a full recovery.

Hope Amat bounces back next week against Loyola. Amat lost to a great football team, bad news is that it will take a two consecutive wins against Loyola and ND to advance to playoffs. Very grim playoff picture here folks.

4TH&ONE said:

HOW 'BOUT THEM CHARGERS!

CHARTER OAK CHARGERS 17

BONITA BEARCATS 14

GREAT DEFENSIVE GAME - BOTH WAYS!

VANNER said:

OH YA!
SOUTH HILLS 23
WEST COVINA 3
DOMINATED THE TRENCHES!
Really starting to roll now. No tough breaks for S.H. and they dominate.

kab said:

TARTENS #86 IS NOT PLAYING SO MUCH IS BECAUSE OF #40. TO MUCH TALENT HERE. #48 ISNT IN LB SPOT AS OFTEN NO ONE CAN GET PAST #48 SIDE MAYBE PUT # 40 ON THE OPPISITE AND #20 IN THE MIDDLE. #31 WILL HELP WHEN HE COMES BACK. GLENDORA NEEDS TO CONTAIN BOTH SIDES ON THE RUN,AND YOU WONT SEE NO MORE BIG PLAY TDS BY THE OTHER TEAM. JUST THINK THE DEFENSE CAN INPROVE WOW COULD BE READY FOR CIF. OFFENSE PLAY LIKE CHINO GAME YOU GUYS COULD BE BETTER THAN GREAT.

me said:

The game was awesome depsite the fact that I got food posioning from the snack bar...(forcing me to miss my football game today)

#40 is Chad Young who is only a sophomore....He will be one of the best linebackers we have seen around here in a few years...He may be behind "Mikey" right now but he should definately get some time playing at the Sam or Will next year with Niles at mike...Great Game Crookie!!!!

FANatic said:

FANatic is in the house!

Woooonelli Mr. Clone, seems I hit a hot spot! Settle down, your warm milk is on the way. I didn't say I like the idea of the "pooch" kick, I said it was more effective last night against Chino. Wouldn't recommend doing it kick after kick with Damien or Chino Hills.

Hey my friend, there's plenty of room on this homy's bleacher for Tartan supporters!


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EX-falcon said:

montview is a bad league period. i went to duarte back in the 90's.we had some very talented teams. about six pro player proably more then a lot of team in the sgv. every year were ok honestly we should never lose in that league. but this is a new year hopefully we can do some damage. hoefully we want say "the same old duarte".

Mike said:

FANatic,

Come on enough with that "pooch kick" thing. Are you crazy or what? Man it failed against Damien and it failed against Chino Hills the leagues 2 top teams. Can you see a trend coming? I hope to hell we aren't doing that on purpose because if we are that's insane, nut's, crazy, goofy, hair brained, idiotic. The only reason we got away with it last night was because Chino to put it frankly wasn't worth a darn.

Let me enlighten you my fellow "Bagpiper Honk"

You can't spot the ball on the 35 everytime especially in the playoffs. Name me one team that does that on a consistent basis. You can't!

So.....If I were you I'd go back and rethink those "pooch kick" statements because if we keep that up our "bagpipers" will be the one's "pooch kicked" right outta here.

(In case some of you don't know what we are talking about our kicking game can't get the ball past the 35 yard line on a kick off.) It's pathetic and sometmes really scary.

Hey Buck, you are correct that Blayney kid needs to get back in there and go on his suicide missions. He loves to hit!

I sure do miss "Niles" and "Zackie B" hope those guys hurry back and soon.

Out!

FANatic said:

FANatic is in the house!

Yessureeeeee! Tartans are back!!!

Interestingly enough, the Tartans played well last night even without the services of starters Niles LB - #31, Butler RB - #9 and All League Castellon OL - #70. Can't wait till we are healthy again!

Buck, Looks like #86 was in and out last night to make room for the 4th LB - #40 to defend the run.
Seems to have worked the last two games. Also seems the "pooch" kick was a little more effective last night.

Also Buck, hard to pressure QB's with only a 3 - man DL. Those fellows are double and tripled teamed. Though, they certainly do take care of business as the RB's cross the scrimage line! We need to blitz more than we do...not quite sure if we blitz much at all! Wish we were playing Damien or Chino Hills at the end of league vs begining. We do take a while to become the awesome team we are today!

Sierra league will be well represented in CIF with the likes of Glendora, Damien and Chino Hills.

Can't wait to root for out teams!

Go Tartans!!

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Mike said:

CO Bro,

I at least get a "A" for effort.

Out!

Plaid Man said:

Buck, good points. I saw #1 throw down an easy INT last week on 4th down and long and was surprised he made that split timing choice...it's gotta be hard not to catch it when you get the chance. On the ranking issue, I wanted to question Aram a bit this week but resisted because I knew his answer. "Those other teams are playing well right NOW" and we had just lost 2 in a row (albeit, to the 2 top teams and with improved play against CH). So I kept my keyboard fingers holstered and waited for us to take care of business. Now that we pounded the only other team with a playoff chance in league, we should pass those 3 teams we prviously beat regardless of what they do tonight. We are playing better than ever this year. (Aram what do you think? Week 1 vs. Covina or week 5 vs. Rowland compared to what you saw last night? I think much improved, just like you said they would be)

Aram said:

Buck,

I can help you with that. It's for the same reason that Los Altos isn't ranked above Damien, a team they beat earlier this season. Think of Janet singing "What have you done for me lately?"

BUCK said:

Nice game for Glendora last night. I agree with everyone who said Chino is not the Chino of the past. All in all a pretty well executed game plan by the coaches and players. I will hand it to Coach "P", his play calling has been really good. A few weeks ago I could have predicted almost every play, now I am pleasently surprised by the variety of plays coming from him and his staff. They had a couple of mistakes but nothing that killed them like in the past few weeks. I am glad they won big, I would had hated to see them squeek one out against that Chino team. Edmond (no "s") was not the leading rusher which should confuse the next few opponets. The passing game, well, I knew it was there, nice job Crook, I always felt they needed to shorten the routes a little and take advantage of Chakerians hieght. Better late than never. 169 yards in the first half, I'm not sure, but, I would bet that was more than a few of their earlier games totaled together. I would agree with "Mike the Clone" I think they should have been at this level in week 3 or 4. Defense did a really good job last night, I would like to see a little more pressure on the QB, Glendora makes OK QB's look very good with all the time they have to throw. Still not sure why #86 is not in the game that much. Oh, I'm sure I don't need to remind #5, but I will, 4th and 20 from the 40, don't intercept the ball on your 10, knock it to the ground! pretend like you know what your doing. Keep it going Glendora you need to make a statement the next two games.
P.S. Just out of curiousity, would somebody explain to me why teams Glendora beat get ranked higher than them.

CO Bro said:

Give it up Mike C... you don't have a chance with Nisha.

highschoolfan said:

GOOD JOB GLENDORA!!

Mike said:

Off Topic!

You guys really have to check out Nisha today. Just Do It! Besides you might learn something.

If this girl isn't beautiful, than I don't know what beautiful is.

To use the "Vic the Brick" saying........Nisha Gutierrez feeling you!!!

Out!

Mike the Clone

Aram said:

It had better happen this year. No excuses anymore for the Montview League in the Mid-Valley Division.

Jeremy said:

No.

Until Duarte can win a playoff game, then we'll talk about a league change. Until then, they fit in just fine.

Mike said:

Greetings!

I am Mike the Clone and you are not!

With that said:

My goodness what the hell has happen to Chino? Wow I was really surprised at that ball club. Seems to me those guys need a healthy dose of “Got Milk� from those remaining dairies down there. I do have to give them credit those guys stuck to it till the end. Hopefully soon they can regain some glory.

Bagpiper O-line you guys continue to “gel� it helps when your consistent at the QB spot. It’s all about timing with you guys and it is all coming together now. Too bad its in week eight. Keep it up guys plow ahead! Just remember take it one game at a time. Chino was not a good team so don’t you guys let up on your intensity. I’ll say it again “One Game At A Time. I really think that is important for us right now.

Defense, hey you guys look great 99.5% most of the time, but man let’s work on not giving away big plays. Let’s work on that please or I’m going to have a stroke. We maybe playing some weaker teams the next two weeks but don’t get complacent.

“Crookie� I have to agree with “FANatic� you can tell your confidence is really picking up and it is really starting to show. I can only imagine where you would be if only the staff wasn’t screwing around with that “plattooning QB’s� B.S. that they were doing in weeks 1 thru 6. I’m really happy for you “Crookie� it couldn’t happen to a nicer kid.

Jordan again I will say quit “juking� and start running through guys, your killing me kid. I don’t know how many times I have seen you bust out on long runs but all of a sudden you want to get cute and the defense catches up to you. Quit It! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Your not Reggie Bush, get your butt into the end zone. Let you’re hard work pay off for you son.

“Stevie Chak� quit catching the ball on one knee! That’s starting to become a bad habit. Continue making those clutch catches.

Overall guys nice job! What scares the hell out of me is that we start looking ahead and Ayala and Diamond Bar comes up and knocks us off. Gentleman keep up your intensity, be consistent, work on the fundamentals work for perfection or at least damn near close to it.

We are a whole different ball club now than we were in weeks 1 thru 6. "Pasqie" has got this Dr. Jeykll-Mr. Hyde thing going on. But whoever he is I hope he sticks around the next two weeks or even maybe three weeks.

We maybe be playing some “scrubs� now, but man if we make it to the first round it will be a whole different ballgame.

Out!

Mike the Clone

ex-falcon said:

go falcons! maye get some momention going into the playoffs.

FANatic said:

Ladies and Gentlemen

FANatic is in the house!

Glendora Tartans were on fire last night against the Chino Cowboys. Offensively, the Tartans, finally, mixed things up and unlocked that fat utility belt taking advantage of the awesome talent "weapons" which lay practically unused heretofore. Vega, Johnson, Segura, just to name a few, WAY TO STEP UP!!! And Crook! What can I say...WOW! Way to show the naysayers out there you are more than "the guy that hands Edmunds the ball". You are a very good and rounded QB who will lead this Tartan team deep into the CIF playoffs.

As far as the Tartan Defense goes, you boys never get the credit you deserve. I would match you boys, position to position, among the BEST this league has to offer... nuff said!

GO TARTANS!! SEE YOU IN THE PLAYOFFS.

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pdognite said:

chino of the past is gone for a while. they will
deteriorate more each year and will resemble ayala soon, sorry if you are a cowboy fan. colony and chino hills will get stronger.

GP said:

finally Glendora shows everybody what they would look like for 4 quarters of not going Two-Face on themselves. 33-10 makes it sounds sort of close.

Tartans should be on a 3 game win streak going into CIF. I think the Sierra League is goign to be tough as nails come that time with Damien, Chino Hills and Glendora all playing good ball.

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